Why The First Descendant Has So Many Microtransactions | Asmongold Reacts
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Its crazy that nowadays people still call 25-100$ item as micro transaction, where is the micro part lol 🤷♀️🤷♀️
This.
Microtransaction is an in-app purchase...
Macro transactions.
Meanwhile in real life, 5 inches is considered micro...
Inflation 😂
Because of a fukkin horse armour in oblivion
Because of maple story ^___^
My controversial opinion is that horse armour is irrelevant, if it didn't happen, nothing would be different today. It's just natural progression of greed that took place. If it didnt happen in 2006. it would have started few years later anyway.
@@frickzjee I don't think there are many people who doesn't understand that it's a meme.
@@tarakan_ioit can be both.
It was a meme and an omen of things to come.
WoWs first store mount made more money than Starcraft 2.
I want a game developer to make a “flushing money down the toilet” emote that costs $500
complete with sound.
You mean riot?
Well, Squeenix did sell a mount for $500 (I think) that was a giant whale. Kinda the same.
It would sell
@@wedgeserif556 star citizen sell ships that arent released yet, some of them cost over 1k. or as they call it "pledging"
the intro is top notch 😂 "i didnt know that it took 8 minutes and 50 seconds to say the word "money", but, lets find out."
And then makes a 22min video just to react to it.. asmon never changes lol
And we watch smh@@SirPanty
To be fair it took him 22 minutes+. :D
poor roach got dragged into the dungeon of torment
fed to the editor.
His scissors were down stairs
He grabbed a roach with his bare hands...💀
Savage af
in this videos?
“Because we love money.”
🤑🤑🤑
The real answer Korea does this is “to mitigate botting in f2p”
When you charge a micro-transaction, you’re attaching a name to the account (along with everything that comes with encouraging more spending).
Botters taking over online games has been an issue since the early wow/maplestory days, and attaching your credit card and risking your account getting banned mitigates a rampant problem where botters have been monopolizing the market to target abd profit off whales, who spend like crazy for “perfect accounts” and more in-game currency.
Incentivizing micro-transactions creates a higher barrier of entry to deter botting sweatshops to exploit making hundreds of accounts and playing them simultaneously to profit off selling “lucky rerolled accounts” or selling gold off the market.
Gating higher progression with a microtransaction obliterates the majority of botting sweatshop issues while still maintaining the “free game” appeal.
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But when people don't love the prices that love will hit back. Lol
They gave us a multi million dollar game for free lol, nobody is getting forced to pay up.
the fucking roach grab.
Yep, that ending was wild
If he was a character in hero shooter i bet he would have a ability where he gets a power up after eating a cockroach 💯
He has no care in the world for germs and diseases ❤😂
@@Lt_meancat you need to train you immune system to be strong
@@Lt_meancat I mean, you can just wash your hands - grabbing/squishing one isn't that big of a deal as far as germs/diseases go.
I have money and hate p2w. I play games to have fun and compete, and p2w takes away both of those.
Paying for p2w games is for simple people who are weak to manipulation. You're clearly not the target audience.
p2w and gachas are the same where collecting waifus is the real winning
p2w does not take away fun if you chose not to do it. For example in the First Descendant as long as you dont buy anything the game is a fun grindy game
This game is not p2w.
this game isnt pay to win
Fun fact, the color dye system used to be gacha in the beta, but the community complained and they took it out a week later
Of all things that's ridiculous. But still nog much better from the gacha...
Their color variety is restrictive and they are consumables at 25 caliber a pop.
They should just give you a color and material wheel and charge you probably 25 caliber FOR ALL colors and materials. Every once in a while after maintenance they could give you a free color change pass.
This way the user gets something simple and effective, and Nexon still gets their money. It's like they're not even trying and they still want you to pay for it.
@@pwnomega4562Because they aren’t trying. Did you hear about the Maple Story incident?
@@snowywolfangel9865 yeah that reason alone is why I suspect the drop rate to be rigged. I don't care what the people on the forums larping as mathematicians say that it is all probability and chance, and RNGesus has to bless you.
With their logic an item can have 99% drop chance and could take you a million tries to finally obtain that item and they'll just sit there and tell you "it is what it is" this is as the math gods hath ordained.
Point is it says 20% drop chance and I've been grinding this one mission for hours for this one item. With a very do-able drop chance like that, that should not be happening.
I've played many looter games RPGs, shooters, etc. I've never had to grind that hard like that for an item that is supposed to have a drop chance as high as that.
@@pwnomega4562 I had the same problem with the 20% drop too
@@pwnomega4562 If you're doing a void recon mission, you need to "Infilitrate" with stealth like Sharen's C to shut off the "ABC" to be eligible for the "Successful Infilitration" rewards. Once I figured that out the grind became very tolerable. Also Private mode lobbies for recon mission timers. There are little things you can do that will keep you moving from part to part relatively quickly, it's the game loop. If you can't tolerate farming then this definitely isn't the game for you xD
Because its a F2P game.
No thats not an excuse no more. S**t is wayy too expensive even for F2P game. Like it cost 25 euros to buy one forma at launch and in warframe you can buy 3 with 5 euro and it even left u some that next time u can get 4 formas.
Nah, not really. Just look at warframe (which is a free game). Other than tennogen, you can basically get everything for free, but the game is still massively successful.
@@mataasen2534his point still stands, It's F2P you just added a bunch of jargon to somethin so simple
There we go. I knew a weirdo would try to excuse it. Buddy, i would rather pay $120 for Star Wars outlaws ultimate edition than play a “free” game where i need to spend $500 to keep up with other players.
F2P isn’t Free to play.
MapleStory launched without microtransactions in the US. The game was amazing before they added them. The tone and overall shift the game took IMMEDIATELY after the cash shop markets for the free markets came out. The game was 99% about rolling gacha and selling max roll stat gear on ch1 free market 1
I’d argue the real shift happened when botters started taking over the market - all of these games, including wow, diablo, maplestory etc had to completely change their marketing to take into account people that can make 100’s of accounts and play them all on one computer to make 100x the gold one normal player could and then sell accounts/gold through third party and just ruin every economy they could do this in. Just look at lost ark today, the amount of “fueieuyehdiwiw” named bots running in groups ruining the game…
This is when all of the games collectively got way sh*ttier, because they had to introduce all these limiting systems to prevent asian sweatshops from gaining the monolopy of the game market.
In a perfect world, pay 2 win in itself isn’t the worst thing, but when some sweatshop is botting making hundreds of new accounts and selling rare rolls and gold at fractions of the cost of what the company intended, thats what destroyed the market and made every pay2win system incredibly limiting and shifted to specifically targeting WHALES over being fair to everyone.
Prices are so high because you can always tempt a fool.
This. No one would be complaining if micro DLC cost 0.5-2 dollars for each thing. But when it costs 10-20 dollars for a skin or paint job that’s when people complain.
@@MysteriousStranger50 if prices were reasonable for digital items that cost the devs little to create. I wouldn't mind spending a few bucks to support a game I like. However, $100 bucks for some resources and a card variant in Marvel Snap for instance is absurd.
Dont be a fool. Simple fix
@@mydreaminorbit9297
Exactly way too overpriced.
I remember hearing the words paid DLC and I was in utter shock that they would sell you stuff they took out of the game or sell you half a game and then make you buy the other half. worst thing to ever happen to games
That only happened with Destiny.
You know modern gaming is cooked when paying hundreds of $$$ for stuff you already have on your hard drive is considered normal and people tell you you're broke when you don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a game you probably won't play that much anyways.
Nobody is calling you broke for not wanting to spend money on a game. They're calling you broke because you feel the need to moan about it on the internet. If you don't want to pay for micro transactions then don't it's really that simple. Moaning about a free game having micro transactions is stupid
@@lawrencehaynes6408 Yeah so to hell with games being good amirite ? Just throw out shitty garbage with hella microtransactions, it's more profitable since there's an unlimited supply of useful idiots willing to open their wallets to buy useless items in a sub par game.
Come on bro.
@@lawrencehaynes6408 I love how the people addicted to this stuff constantly go on massive attack mode when people speak against it. They ruin the game itself, for everyone.
Free games can do micro (paid games should not) but they have to actually be Micro and fair.
@@BlazingOwnagerfor rral. These people are ruining their own games and dont realize it.
@@lawrencehaynes6408 The problem is not having microtransactions. The problem is that they are so abusive.
Nothing justifies the price of skins compared to warframe. IF Warframe did better, why can't a game released 12 years later?
30 minutes after the video released, you can clearly spot several bots in this comment section. The dead internet theory was on point apparently.
I was literally thinking about that as I was scrolling down the comments. Crazy.
You just discovered bots?
@@ZeallustImmortal yes, just now
30 minutes after the video released, you can clearly spot several bots in this comment section. The dead internet theory was on point apparently.
top comments on youtube, reddit etc have been bots for years lol
Man, Warframe should've been a role model of these new up and coming MMOs. The game's economy in this is just very healthy for a free to play game. Players go their way to pay for other stuff just to give back to the developers for their work and effort.
because it's easy to ask for your parents for $10 game item but not $100 game item
The 100 ( complete edition) game will come to the 1/4 th of the price in less than two years the skin will have the maximum - 40% .
ive played about 30hrs and haven't needed to pay for anything, the grind makes it fun
Exactly but people crying about prices like they got a gun to they head forcing them to buy
Same dude even unlocked few people aswell
@@SJ-fj3jp im 78 hours in now and got 5 decedents like just play the game lmao but the game is so fun
The game sucks if the “fun” of the game is the grind. What happens after you grind everything you want? Oh yea there’s nothing else to fucking do.
Micro-transactions ruin FREE and PAID games because they build games & mechanics around these transactions now; it's no longer mainly about the fun or challenge (required to sell a game initially), but just about milking the customer dry. And that's also the main reason the industry is so negative & lies about Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring !
Nothing ruin about the game it’s a choice
lul u know FREE games needs a way to earn money so people can play it for free and they can pay for the servers and stuff? Otherwise ther would be no online Free games but ofc u would make a game totaly free and pay everything for the duration the game is Online out of your own pockets. U are the Hero my man
@gentlemandevils2983 The amount of people who fail to realize that, is astonishing!
The fans lie to themselves about games like BG3, so who cares right...
@@gentlemandevils2983 Get lost with this rubbish that free games need money. Selling ONE CHARACTER for the price of a WHOLE ENTIRE GAME is not justified no matter what you try and say. I agree that free games need to make money but this isn’t it. Unless they build in a system where this gets better the game will die just like most of Nexons games.
Me in asia, we never had subscription since early 2000s era in online game but our online game dominated with South Korean (SEAL online, Ragnarok online, PointBlank, Crossfire, CounterStrike Online by nexon, RF online, DragonNest, Audition online, Gunbound, etc) with microtransaction like certain time period of cash item or permanent cash item and no subscription bcuz the game is COMPLETELY FREE. We never complain about microtransaction bcuz its optional and just for competitive people.
SO im shocked when i first installed ruinscape and i need to spend money on subscription to complete mission. Bcuz in my place, we don't have to pay real money to complete mission, we can complete all mission and the game for free without spending money. All we spend was money to play in internet cafe/gamenet every afternoon or weekend.
Bro there are times that the devs of those games require you to pay just to log in.
Maple Story wasn't the first Korean MMO to "break through". Lineage 2 was one of the largest MMOs for a long time. It was released in NA in 2004.
Lineage 2 was so cool as a teen, being an orc monk or w/e just felt so badass lol
Hey, there's the game I lost 10 years of my life on! 🤣 The L2 Store got insane after the first few "good" years, but this game also had a huge culture of playing on private servers and restarting from 0 every summer. Playing on the SupremeL2/AzureL2 broken "C5" servers is my core my memory.
Just turned 32, single with a good job and disposable income. I still despise pay to win on principle alone.
It's incredible. As a former vanilla Destiny 2 player, IMO most people seem to have forgotten that there were shaders that you could only use once as well - after buying them from the Eververse. And then these shaders rotated weekly. NEXON paid damn good attention and simply copied what Bungie did at the launch of D2. Bright dust or Silver - that doesn't matter. It's the same mechanic behind.
Lets also not talk about how most shaders are garbage anyways. In the supposed 100+ choices theres really only 10-15
Bro did not live to play during eras where you have to pay just to log in.😂
in tfd, if you buy a color on a specific piece of gear, you can use it on that piece in any slot even after you paint it in a specific slot. it keeps the color for the specific weapon skin, helmet or body.
example: i buy or earn blue.
now i paint blue on the first slot of my lepic helmet. I can now take blue off if i want, and/or use blue in any of the slots on that lepic helmet.
"The rice eater mentality"
sigh gamers nowadays, You can olay it for free, the mtx is optional you dont have to pay for it to do all the contents, you can farm all those characters and people still complain about it.
They are company not charity. Of course they need money especially for a live service game. I never understand people complaining about mtx on free game which doesn't even break the game at all.
These days??? This wasn’t a goddamn problem back then.
@@hwyadoin_alt back then the cost of making and maintaining a game is not expensive like now.
Yea bro 50-100 dollars for one or two skins isn’t trying to make money. They are trying to r*pe players with those prices. The funny part is they would make way more money in the long run if they dropped everything to 10-20 max. Then you would have almost every player buying at least one bundle if not every single one.
@@jerodfarmer165 Will you get angry also when you come to clothing shop IRL and found out the price there are expensive?
You sound like a Karen here.
@jameslambertus5820 Most of these games are only free so they can try to milk more money from us. It isn't free for our benefit lmao
Korean gamers think that the bm for most korean mmos are too toxic and is the main factor that hinders the emergence of real "good" games
He ate the roach off cam😂
The roach escaped from his snack drawer.
Without PVP, "The game is designed for us to win" - Asmon
if everyone is a winner, no one is a winner.
this reminds me of participation awards
still 189k current players, and peak was 260k+ thats a pretty slow drop off
And they reached 10 million in 7 days they doing something right
Humanity is tired of Delusion Exclusion Intolerance.
Game has bunny, hot babes, job identity, several items that change how your job plays, and no fur left groups such as brownies and rainbow mafia
That's just on steam
I see a lot of PS and Xbox players whenever I play
The hub (Albion) shows a player's platform
it will dropped eventually like lost ark
Its not even a month since release....
Asmangold has a new title: Bane of Roaches. People who catch Roaches with their bare hands are built differently.
The problem is that there's no costumisation for free players. You end up looking like everybody else. You enter a level and it's bunnys everywhere, it's ridiculous.
They want you to feel bad about it that's why they made sure everyone looked very bland, it's one factor in why i uninstalled the game. The cosmetics are overpriced and not even good looking, with little options to choose from.
So you don't look like everyone else. Ok got it.😂
Thats by design. They want you to spend money.
Not to mention the colors they provide which most often than not you'll have to buy the CONSUMABLE colors are honestly limited in the colors and materials you can choose from.
Why don't they just give you a color and material wheel and charge you up front to change your color scheme? Simple, effective, and they still make their money on it. It's like they didn't even try.
The level of entitlement is insane, this game is FREE to play. The fact that you are complaining about looking the same as everyone else is hilarious, you are literally playing a game for free and moaning that the games doesn't give you more free stuff 😂😂😂
I didn't know it took 22 minutes to watch someone take 8 minutes 30 seconds to say MONEY!
There was also a roach arc.
"u can grind your char ingame but it takes a rly long time" i grinded my ulti lepic in 1 day, guess thats not rly long. I mean yea, alot of games have p2w but kinda everything is so easy to get in "the first descendant" but most ppl start crying without trying it.
Exactly bro shit crazy
I think there is some differences on how time consuming a grind is for different ultimate skins.
There are at the very least 2 items for ult bunny that honestly require you to have another character to massively increase the drop rate of the needed item. I wonder if other ult skins have that
I mean how long is 1 day though. We talking one sitting of a couple hours? 24 hour sitting? Etc.
@@Skratch63 i farmed it in around 18-20h, and still if you just farm 2h/day, it takes you 10days. That should be fine for an ulti skin in my eyes. I mean its a grindgame.
@@gi72w3rg Bro this what I'm saying, had Ultimate Views a after a week and I skipped a day or 2. This like how I had all my skill cards maxed on BF2 and then I look up and people complaining about loot boxes. HUH? 😂🤦🏾♂️
No, p2w is always a problem because it stops being about developing skill and it becomes a contest of who swipes harder. It destroys the legitimacy of competitive gameplay.
It can be both greedy and better than a gatcha system at the same time. Which to me, is exactly what it is. I agree that being able to outright purchase exactly what you want is better than a slot machine, but I also don't have to like it or engage with games that work like this as a result.
If the store was nothing but cosmetics I'd be willing to look past the greed, but not the way it stands now.
this is just nexon things they will release a grindy game paired with tons of micro transactions
Just Nexon? Are you sure about that?
@@innocentbystander3317 i meant this is just nexon does i didnt mean nexon is the only company does this. my eng is bad
But the gameplay will be a lot of fun so you forget all the other stuff and have fun going pew pew boom boom.
@@lucidare Your english was correct. The guy above you just chose to misinterpret what you said.
@@innocentbystander3317 reading is hard
Because its nexon which is owned by TENECENT
Welp that sounds like Korean alright
but they charge more than ten cent
Digital Extremes is also owned by Tencent so that's not the reason
Yes and no I think it was a class b owner ship or investment where they don't have a say in how the game developers make the game or it's store
Who upvotes this shit lmao.
Nexon is a publicly traded company registered on the Tokyo Stock Exchange and they have no corporate relationship with Tencent or any of Tencent's subsidiaries.
Tencent simply publishes a couple of their games in China.
"The reason why people don't like pay to win is because people can't afford it"
Of all the shit Asmongold takes, and there are many, this one takes the cake. I'm sure this statement applies to some people, but I don't play video games to swipe a credit card. Spare me this "Nintendo kids are all grown up now making $300k a year as a software developer" speech you make every single time this topic comes up, as well. I fit into this category myself, and if I felt the need to start spending money on a game, in lieu of actually playing it, I would just find a different game or find another challenging hobby and quit gaming altogether.
I just finished all the main missions, and needed 0 dollars to enjoy or finish it. I dont get the amount of complaints about micro transaction especially if its just mostly cosmetic it just gives you option to speed some things up which is totally "optional"
Cause they are broke and can't afford it 🤣
To add to that, they even still giving some cosmetic freebies like 2 back and 2 chest attachments, a body skin (viessa) + head skin, and lots of colors for your skin. You even have access to every equipment (weapons, reactors, external components, modules) nothing is behind a paywall.
"I dont get the amount of complaints about micro transaction especially if its just mostly cosmetic"
Which it isn't. You can buy materials and spend money to skip crafting times.
You answer your own question and are surprised by the answer. What could we have expected from a Roblox pfp anyway. You shouldn't even be here.
@Nico78Not you don't need to spend money to speed up craft times. Start research, go to work, hangout with women, then come home and it's done lol. The self reporting is hilarious
Problem is people spend too much time on internet. Always comparing their progresss to other tryhards streamers, and now they are mad cause they feel like they fall behind
I'm playing The First Descendant, and there are only two reasons you need to spend money in this game:
1 - Buy skins.
2 - Buy character slots (this is the most practical one, and they cost about $1 each. You already have 10 slots by default, and the game has 19 Descendants in total).
Even if you play the game, which is completely free, enough to fill all 10 slots, and that takes hundreds of hours, it makes sense to spend a little money on it. It's totally fair at this point.
How is only being able to play 10 characters fair?💀
@@glass7046 Let me explain again how it's fair: If you play the game enough to fill all 10 slots, that will be like hundreds of hours. If you want to have all the character slots (19), you will need to spend around only $9 in Caliber to unlock all the slots. And if you want, and that's totally optional, you can buy skins. I repeat, you just spent hundreds of hours in a free game that has no content behind any paywalls whatsoever, so spending a few bucks is totally fair at this point.
And for the record, having this many characters is totally optional. I'm clearing all the content of the game with only two and having lots of fun. I'm thinking of leveling up a third one just for the fun of making a new build. You probably won't play with all the characters anyway, but if you want to, sure, go for it.
@@ReginDeRivia absolutely not, the point of playing a F2P game is I have access to all content that I play with Being able to have *choice* if I want to pay and I usually do for cosmetics (I Will probably not be doing that unless they fix the dogshit paint system)
I'm not playing a game where I'll be locked out of content until I pay
Also don't think they're doing us a favour making the game free...it's fucking nexon one of if not the absolute worst video game company
What pack are you smoking hundreds of hours to get 10 characters I have 50 hrs and have almost 6 characters
@@trashpanda003 Well his calculation is right because you will get about 10 characters after 100 hours.😂
The most "Pay 2 Win" item in the game is the ones that boost mod capacity and allows you to put out those special symbols on your weapons to halve it.
If we compare to Warframe that item costs 20 platinum and the forma is less. Here you'd have to spend over a 1000 of their special points.
It also takes quite a long time before you can even farm these items. They would be very useful vs some of the harder normal bosses.
Normal bosses are easy and don’t require the upgrades capacity. The upgrades to module capacity and sockets are for hard mode and min maxing
Also you can farm the material to build your own
@@ap396z The Devourer started to demand a gear check as in having a weapon that deal a ton of dps.
Also look, the minority that blows through the game without a problem should not be a basis for an item as powerful as this.
There are worse people who will just quit and then later on you'll whine about the game being dead.
@@seanguinn the "reactor and forma" bps only drop om hard mode.
@@Zefar77 yes devourer and pyro require builds and understanding of moding, but the “P2W” item that can be earned in game is not going to win an easy mode fight for you. If you are moding correctly base capacity is enough for easy mode.
And that’s fine, I like a more hardcore game. “A game for everyone, is a game for no one”
i think everyone is forgetting that the comparison to gacha games milking your money doesn't compare well because they also give you the premium currency just by playing, theres a reason people prefer to get "lucky" gambling for a character with earned ingame currency than pay 100 dollars for a character straight up. the first descendant won't give you any premium currency, its strictly paid and i think that is somehow even lower than a gacha game
Ah yes, bloodsucker games. Leave it to investors and ceo's to ruin another part of the industry.
"It's jealousy. People don't care about principles"
Zacks projecting and assuming everyone is as amoral and jealous as he is so he doesn't have to admit he's just telling us exactly how he is. Pathetic.
L take. Supporting MC's always is a massive L.
NEXON will milk your pockets dry folks.
Idk how to tell you this but you can play the game without spending a dime it's really easy to do
@@tokeaholic8756 I've seen hella people unlock majority of the free content and be op af. the only thing they don't like is having to pay for the cosmetics since most of them aren't free and the 1 time use paints.
Or just play a different game that isn't made in Korea
@@tokeaholic8756 Well Nexon did this already a lot of times, make a free2play game and sneak p2w in and make lots of money. That legitimately their business strategy.
@@tokeaholic8756yes but the fact that there are drop percentages and it’s really really low is insane compared to what warframe has. Warframe doesn’t have drop percentages but instead chances in which case you have to be lucky. Plus warframe’s equivalent to an ultimate character is $20 versus the first descendants ultimate characters being around $50-$100.
Chuck Norris once killed an old man in his childhood.
I'm gonna be honest, I think people forget the fact that it's a FREE TO PLAY game. I'm 100% fine with cosmetic microtransactions, and whatever you can purchase (besides cosmetics) you can also indefinitely farm. People are just looking for reasons to hate. If you're going to hate the game, do it for reasons like the bad story or lack of diversity on activities/enemies, not a fucking color on your armor
"It's ok if you can earn the item in game." I disagree. If an item on a store is obtainable in game but it takes a lot of resources to get (time) then that's just the developer creating a problem and selling the solution.
Yep, tho it's a step above money being the only solution.
TFD is a looter shooter, the whole gameplay is based on grinding. If you don't like it, go play something else and stop bothering people who likes to grind.
@legacysquid0625And yet you acknowledge my point that one is worse.
I think a lot of people are upset with the prices is because Warframe has treated it's players so well that in comparison to warframe, they are ripping you off. Mainly Warframe offers a better deal with their microtransaction economy
There’s way more microteansactions in Warframe. Also the crafting times are way to long to encourage players to spend money to skip times. They are more predatory. You can get everything for free in TFD
@@stalliontv8788 "They are more predatory". I don't know about that. I haven't played TFD yet though. Does TFD offer caliber discounts up to 75 percent? Warframe is still overall less pricey right?
But I think Nexon can still treat their players better eventually, like listening to feedback, changing up systems that players don't like. TFD is new, it's just gonna get better right? Or am I delusional?
@@stalliontv8788 What people always forget is that platinum (Cash Currency) is tradeable in game. You don't ever have to spend any cash for it. Which is how I played for half a decade. The crafting is fine for a person like me. I'm a filthy casual. I have a job and responsibilities so therefore I have time to wait.
DE on stream has said that they're looking into crafting currently and may cut the time to keep NEW players interested. They know it's a deterrent and they know 24hrs to craft a gun is silly.
I haven't played TFD but I am interested in giving it a shot one day. I would think that skins wouldn't be free in a game from Nexon.
A while ago asmond spoke about wow "used to be good because it had achievable goals and rewards the players had to work for" and as a wow player from 2005 till current, first decendant has given me that feeling of old school wow that is not a part of gaming much any more. The grind feels good, the time spent means something. i unlock a new character, weapon, or prestige to increase my build.
Micro transactions to give the devs an income as well as guaranteed items with my purchase is completely acceptable imo. The game is great, its a huge relief to have a game to get back into and want to play every day.
This idea that P2W is only something that affects PvP is so wild to me.
I mean it’s 100 unacceptable in PvP, but it’s like 99% really scummy in PvE
The First Microtransaction
Nothing about pay to win is "fun". It's fundamentaly lame and adds nothing to the game play.
Been playing first descendant for a week and monetization actually seems fine which surprised me because many ppl are complaining
People needs to realize that $5 and $500 are essentially the same price for the whales. Free players are just hyper-realistic AI bots to keep the world populated. No one is gonna care if a few bots complain.
Exactly. F2p players to marketing are like NPC’s in a dumpster fire game where marketing hit sthe skip button on them, they don’t care what f2p/poor players have to say 😅
(f2p established streamers are a different being, because despite them being f2p they attract thousands of potential light spenders to whales, to be succinct)
Nexon just doing nexon things
Nobody talking about if it's fun is all i need to know.
The grind is what it’s all about so if that’s your niche it’s worth a try… just know mid-end game you’ll need a party or just do fill for a pub lobby for allot of the missions the waves are crazy. you have to upgrade your abilitys/guns alongside destroying extra loot you pick up to create material. Probably one of the best looter shooters we’ve had in a while alongside The division 1/2
It doesn't play well on 1650, imma cry
Nothing wrong with the micro transactions honestly, I didn’t want to pay for Ult Gley so I grinded it over a few days
I noticed that some skins and heads are available by leveling season pass to level 50 to 98 by looking under the gift icon which will change out as seasons rotate out.
They pointed it out in the latest hotfix because people missed it
Asmon would literally implode upon seeing how many Warframe has
Yes but they aren’t outrageous nor are those things hard to get without spending money. It’s why it’s still a active game today.
@@snowywolfangel9865 True, but the Title is "so many" my comment was to point out that if The First Descendant has a lot, then Warframe has an insane amount.
because it's NEXON. They were doing microtransactions since 2003. You could literally buy your armor with Nexon cash and x2 exp coupons in Maplestory.
People love to be forgetful
@@saschaberger3212You have to remind yourself that when you get older, younger people still exist. They don't even know Maplestory exists likely. You could show them that game or Gaia online and they would think it's Gacha Life or something.
This is what people get for whining that $15 a month for an online game is too much. "scoffs at $180 a year sub" "buys $300 a year in microtransactions".
The microtransactions themselves in TFD aren't terrible. It's the mechanics and the very sketchy drop rates in the actual gameplay that are designed to funnel people to those transactions that a lot of players have issues with.
Asmon doing the "the older generation is fine with pay2win now because they have money" because he is. bad take. a game has no integrity if you can pay for advantages, it's as simple as that. p2w is a cancer.
“Pay to win.”
What does one win?
without pvp, "the game is designed for us to win" -Asmon 💯
Nothing and that's that's it. I will never understand why people spend so much money on digital stuff that is in fact worth nothing.😂
@@ConsiderbeBased Same as gym and club subs, never came yet still paid.
Time and materials.
@@Nico78Not Time? So why Play it when it steals your time? Time savers, so ridiculous.😂
I imagine that part of the reason why micro-transactions are so popular in Korea is that PC Bang culture is heavily rooted in pre-installed F2P games.
I used to hate micro transactions when I had to convince my parents it was worth it.
Now that I have a job. IDGAF
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Key Points：
1. [Key Point 1]: Microtransactions in Korean games are a major revenue source.
2. [Key Point 2]: Korean gamers have normalized microtransactions over time.
3. [Key Point 3]: New laws aim to regulate loot boxes and their mechanics.
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00:00:00 Introduction to Microtransactions in Korean Games
• Speaker discusses microtransactions in Korean games.
• Speaker highlights the prevalence of microtransactions in "The First Descendant."
00:00:31 Ethical Considerations of Microtransactions
• Speaker defends the ethical scale of "The First Descendant's" microtransactions.
• Speaker compares microtransactions to a subscription model.
00:02:08 Historical Context of Microtransactions
• Speaker traces the history of microtransactions in Korean games.
• Speaker mentions "Maple Story" and its impact on gaming.
00:06:47 Normalization of Microtransactions
• Speaker explains how microtransactions have become normalized.
• Speaker discusses the shift in attitudes towards pay-to-win games.
00:08:22 Economic Impact of Microtransactions
• Speaker discusses the financial success of microtransactions in Korea.
• Speaker compares the success of Korean MMOs in North America.
00:10:01 Gaming Culture and Addiction in Korea
• Speaker explores the relationship between gaming culture and addiction.
• Speaker mentions the Cinderella law and its impact on gaming.
00:14:55 Class Consciousness and Microtransactions
• Speaker connects class consciousness to microtransactions.
• Speaker discusses the "rice eater mentality" in Korea.
00:17:07 Future of Microtransactions and Regulation
• Speaker predicts the expansion of microtransactions.
• Speaker discusses new laws aimed at protecting consumers.
00:20:49 Conclusion and Personal Opinions
• Speaker summarizes thoughts on "The First Descendant's" microtransactions.
• Speaker emphasizes the importance of self-control in gaming.
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The vast majority of free games has microtransactions. Warframe has more than FD
Except their prices are more reasonable. In TFD energy activators (the equivalent of orokin reactors/catalysts) cost almost the same as a whole ass prime access package, and in comparison couldve gotten you TWO HUNDRED potatoes in warframe. Why such a ludicrous price for such an important item?
That’s what I’m saying but people keep crying about the first descendant and the highest bought thing in WF is 150 usd
Literally playing warframe right now lol.
The game is fair with it's Microtransactions, you can get everything in the game for free, and it doesn't take alot of time.
(There are players who have everything in the game that didn't spend money, it's not extremely uncommon to find them)
The only problem is the time you have to wait for items to get crafted, it's bullshit lol
@@ra6765 And whats to stop you just farming one? I did today and didn't take that long, sure the crafting time sucks but that's half the fun
What you are still blind to is that in WF it's possible to farm ('cash' PL).
can't you buy weapons with cash? If you can't buy it, it's not pay-to-win. Even if I give you $10,000, I want a powerful weapon.
It was because piracy was so rampant in Asia they needed a way to combat it.
I dont like p2w as it makes the game feel gutted,
Whats the point of playing a game if you can just buy your way to the top?
No journey, no adventure, no excitmemt over rare drops and no memories made overcoming hardships with friends. 😢
Im ok with little bit p2w tho. As the baldman said "sub fee"
That and they make the game systems grindier just to tempt people to spend money. Other f2p games do better by having cosmetic or convenience only, with ways to earn or trade premium currency in game. Descendant is pretty shameless with their monetization, and the game is shallow on top of that... so people are gonna regret spending money on this shit in a month when the game is basically dead.
You can buy a $70 or 100$ single player game and then not 'buy your way' but download a save file with BiS gear and 100% achievemnts and shit for free. Doesn't mean you have to. But you can. Same here, but the 'save file' comes with a fat price tag a.k.a. idiot tax. Or you can pay that "sub fee" to support developers and enjoy your time - the best way imo
@@christianalanwilson434i agree completely, the problem is not that you're able to buy stuff the problem is how that fundamentally changes the game and how everything inside of it is designed
Don't buy your way to the top then? If you pay to remove 90% of the game then what's the point in playing? You know unlike other games, because this game is free, buying stuff is a choice right?
@@MunKDaDDyyquit crying, warframes times are much longer.
Plenty of f2p players already obtained and fully slotted Ultimate characters in 1 week. Nobody forces you to pay hundreds of dollars to win in a PvE mostly solo game. But you are given an option to if it floats your boat. Aint nothing wrong with that
🤫 you’re supposed to be mad and agree with all the other free thinkers
artificial time gating,daily caps, abissmal drop rates,p2w systems Yep nobody forces it but it brings the entire experience down by a significant margin if not entirely unfun compared to games which dont have that
I haven't seen any f2p player with ultimate characters let alone fully slotted one
But what about when games are purposefully designed to make the game more of a grind for the sole purpose of selling the micro? To assume companies add micro after making the game would be wrong. The frustration is what the micro does to game design.
@@90_soumikghosh17
If you enjoy the game play, then none of your accusations about the mechanics hold water any better than a sock would.
BDO is still strong in the West. It hardly failed.
"Tone police somewhere else" is something that should be said just as easily in more places.
There's nothing in the first descendant that you can't grind for. I'm loving this game.
Bad news for you, if you want to DOUBLE mod capacity on Descendants/Weapons you have to pay $30 for each one, that item IS NOT grindable
@@gadsanchez4929 yes it is. Clearly, you have never played the game.
@@gadsanchez4929The level of entitlement is insane, this game is FREE to play. The fact that you are complaining about mod capacity is hilarious, you are literally playing a game for free and moaning that the games doesn't give you more free stuff 😂😂😂
Yes it is @@gadsanchez4929
@@gadsanchez4929 As others have pointed out, not only you are wrong about it not being grindable, but it also doesn't double the capacity, it's +30. It takes 30 hours to craft the item and my 1st crafted one is about to finish and the 2nd one will be queued straight after. It's not even that difficult to grind it out.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Too bad, im not paying for it, going to play till its not worth anymore and move on to another game 😂😂
You are proud that you are going to take whatever you can for all it is worth without any intention of contributing anything? Have you considered getting into politics?
@@innocentbystander3317LMAO 😂
@@innocentbystander3317 in this case? Extremely proud, or do you feel good spending money into an infinite money bin? 😂 (Won't feel surprised if you do btw)
@@innocentbystander3317
All i heard was " leave the multimillionaire company alone!"
Smart, it is what I did, uninstalled now the grind was getting too much. It was ok for what it was thx you Nexon for the free game .😏
Another way to think of it is: you can earn it in game or you go to work to earn money and then spend the money in the games you like for items that you think look cool on your character.
Also, all of this:
Servers cost WAY more than that pc on your table.
You need people to maintain those servers. They aren't gonna work for free.
Bandwidth for the servers is WAY more than your ISP bill.
All the people that actually work on the game itself aren't gonna work for free.
There is no such thing as a free to play multiplayer game.
People always want to bag on "whales".
if your an actual free to play player, then you should be THANKING all the whales that play the game you like, because if they weren't whaling, then the game you like to play wouldn't exist very long.
TBH this game you can play completely F2P the only thing you can not grind is some skins. I don't have a bad word to say about the monetization of the game.
I’ve always said this. They would make way more money if they cut all prices by 80%. Is buy 5 ultimate descendants for 20 a piece. But no way will I buy one for 100.
Facts
Not disagreeing you here, just giving out more accurate numbers. Ultimate descendants are bundled, with a bundle exclusive skin and capacity slot, at 3k caliber or about $52.17. So 2 ultimate descendant bundles for about $105.
The non ultimate descendants are priced at 300/600/900 caliber (~$5.22/$10.43/$15.65).
Ok don’t then lol
To be honest you don’t really need ultimate descendants you could build up your descendant to do just as much as the ultimate versions
Why wouldn't you charge 100$ for a half naked character skin when people keep paying for it
Microtransaction and video addiction is way worse in china, just this week an 8 year old stabbed his grandpa in his sleep in the chest multiple time with a kitchen knife because when the kid asked him to buy gear in a mobile game the grandpa ignored him, the grandpa is still in critical condition.
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Exactly. These kind of games need this type of monetization to stay alive. It's free to play, live service game.
Warframe is the same, I've played that game on and off for like 9 years and I've never spend a cent on it and it's been fun once you get past the steep learning curve at the beginning. I believe TFD can be the same, although it's gonna be harder because games like Warframe already exist on the market.
Now, if you take the same monetization and apply it to Elden Ring? Baldur's Gate? Fuck that, those are mostly single player games with full retail prices.
Amazing how Warframe does neither and still succeeds
Warframe sell all the same stuff ...Maybe more with the variety of weapons you can buy etc. Though they don't charge as much for most things.
Have you played WF buddy
@@javionholley397 I've dabbled in it a bit... Under 200 hours play time.
I think it's more that Warframe *has* similar microtransactions but *is* succeeding. It's just that it's way cheaper and not as predatory. Plus the in-game trading makes up for it.
Warframe literally does the same the f are you babbling about
I cant believe rice eater is being poor. Imagine not having rice instead.
Rice has 0 nutritional value... imagine CHOOSING to eat empty calories and treating your body like trash?!?!
@@carbagehealth9634 zero nutrition? sure it is nutritionist/dietician. rice is life though.
I’m enjoying playing it atm. Though I don’t like the in game currency not aligning with the season pass. It’s habitual nowadays to conveniently set the price of premium pass but all packages are too low or too high. Meaning you have to double dip.
When you 100% all HM content, you realise there is no content except grinding other descendants to do the same content. It's about 75hrs of content to experience 2hrs total of all end game content, spending money before finishing hard mode just means they got you.
1y in star rail here, 0 dollars in the game, i can do everything easy. And i have most characters that i like.
20% drop chance in other games 😃
*20% drop chance in TFD* 😭
10 runs not getting a 50% drop rate item not uncommon.
I got quite a few drops on the first run , however there are times that are shyte , they increased the drop rate btw
( A ) Buy $50 Bunny Skin
( B ) Buy $50 Concord
'lost ark isnt top 20' when it sits at 6th with 4.58% market share in pc cafes
The microtransaction in the first descendant seem only good because he hasn't played warframe. Warframe is way more f2p friendly.
Because the Players of dirt like this pay a million dollars in microtransactions
ONE. HANDED. ROACH. GRAB. without flinching.
Yall seeing this? 💀
You can get addicted to anything.
Outside matters influence you, the addiction happens in the brain.
Curious stuff, as some people don't even get hooked on hardcore drugs.
Also know a woman that smoked a pack everyday for 40 years, decided it was enough and it was instant, no cigarettes and no cravings.
Still others can be so addicted to stuff with no chemical influence it becomes life and death.
The brain is weird, and similar discussions can be had around depression etc for that reason.
The thing with warframe is you are not gatkept by killing the bosses and you can complete the starchart with pretty mid modded stuff but when fighting the bosses in tfd you feel so weak if you are not paying for stuff and not to mention the prices are very high though
Paying for the stuff? Which stuff? Brother u have to farm and get those modules in the right place, I have no problem soloing Hard mode dead bride with gley and freyna, f2p btw haven't spend a dime in this game and prob won't in the future.
@@ysamhjstmmyike3984 you have fully socketed freyna and gley i believe or maybe close to that but you never felt like using a reactor at the first place in wf you can do pretty much anything in starchart without modding properly. And I am talking about how you can essentially buy the mod slots and character at a very high price for very little
Bruh, you don't need to pay for stuff to kill the bosses. you are just bad at the game and don't care about making aproper build.
I started with Bunny and progressed slowly to hardmode and I'm soloing bosses just fine without paying for anything.
@@ysamhjstmmyike3984 these people are complete noobs and feel like they would get good by paying for the catalysts lol, it's f'ng hilarious how they are oblivious or ignorant.
@@MrAmenoera that's the thing you played with bunny that's everyone's second character u didn't try anything else or invest in someone else that's the problem if I wanna play multiple character and have them be strong i have to pay or not to mention the purple vaults that's almost impossible to open without enzo but hey you wanna overlook the mtx problems and spend your money go ahead
People are just mad that they have to pay $100 to see Bunny's ass in the Ult skin.
You can see it for free without ever playing the game. That's on them.
Ult Bunny is the easiest Ult to farm, people already have her free just in a week isn't easy but not impossible.
Asmon is wrong. I'm older than him, I was against p2w then and I'm against p2w now. Why would I want to just pay my way through a game, that's dumb. I would just go daytrade or something instead. Many people have principles, not everyone is trash.
Very very L take.
I care about Pay 2 Win purely because it ruins the game entirely. There is NO point getting good at something if it becomes a credit card measuring contest.