@@karlreichert9051 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Essentially, Congress can't ban religion, can't enforce religion.
What’s so funny about this is people still don’t recognize is that sexuality and sexual expression and practice is a sense of being. No one chooses what their sexuality is no matter what anyone says. Because then the question of the conversation is did u choose to be straight.....
@@trey6388 not at all. If you have control over it then that would make all of us bisexual. Can you choose to like men instead of woman? Are you bisexual?
Why do these hardcore "christians" pick and choose what they want to believe in the Bible? The BIble also says that I can sell my daughter into slavery, hair trimming is forbidden, you can't wear two different types of threads in garments, eating shellfish is an abomination, etc..... Why of all these out of date things do they choose to still focus on this one thing in a book FULL of do's and don'ts?
When are we finally going to come to the realization that certain people's religious views are irrelevant when it comes to a Country that has a separation of Church and State?
Separation of church and state means that state can't govern the church, like taking away tax exempt status from churches that are against lgbtq therefore governing them, lgbtq is secularism/humanism being established as the state religion and if the church disagrees they will either comply or be torn down, this is what the framers were against , duhhhh
@@fredarroyo7429 Our own U.S. Senate, in 1797, stated clearly that “the government of theUnited States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christianreligion.”
@@thomasgriffiths6758 totally irrelevant,get your government from controlling our religion trying to redefine our.marriage, the government has no right , seperation of church and state, hypocrite!!!! you nazi
@@fredarroyo7429 That’s not what separation of church and state means. It would only be relevant if they had a religious law citing the Bible, people can hold religious values that guide policy all they want.
So let me get this straight. Life starts at conception, and so that tiny life deserves every right as any other person in America. So when that little life grows up to become an adult, and turns out to be gay they lose those some of those rights, even though you said that every life deserves normal human rights like marriages, taxes, and being able to see a loved one on their dying bed. I'm so confused, they either have all the rights or not, as a tiny fetus, or a homosexual adult.
@@monika96silva your example doesn’t make sense. There are thousands of gods, so I’m sorry your god isn’t the one and only. Several types of religions and cultures with different types of marriages that have nothing to do with god. That’s why religion is a personal choice, whatever you want to believe is up to you. No one cares which invisible friend you want to believe in do you, as long as your arent pushing it on other. Even the people in those religions can’t decide, what they want to believe. Since it was written thousands ago by people who wanted control over the masses. They are just trying to find other ways of control really at this point.
@@monika96silva gay marriage was illegal in the united states before Obama became president, and people ARE saying that gay people shouldn't get married, I have no idea why you're saying that gay people are just "playing victim" as many LGBT identities are discriminated against every day but you choose to ignore that
The prohibition of homosexual marriage affects the rights of gays to the same extent as it affects straight men. As well as a ban on killing or selling sawn-off shotguns. If you're straight, you can't marry a man like any gay
@@LeyechenThey did not have the right to marry people of the same sex. As well as straights. This is not a defeat of the rights of a particular social group
“I don’t think right or wrong changes based on different areas of time” such a simple yet also powerful response to the most ridiculous example of bigotry
There is no such thing as a gay marriage just as much as there’s no such thing as foreside and triangles. The word marriage is French for the word matrimony the word matrimony means one mother matri means mother and .monos means one … so just like triangles implies three angles, marriage and flies. One mother to men cannot be one mother and two women can’t be mothers unless you’re involve a male but again it doesn’t apply to women because you have potential with two mothers so it doesn’t work either way. The only response I ever get from this is definitions James since when did mother main male on since when do one mean plural??
"I don't think right and wrong changes over time" That's where he got it wrong. Opinions on right and wrong change quite regularly. Religion can't be used as standard to determine what is right or wrong. It's the reason there's a freedon of religion, and a freedom from religion.
Why is it that male homosexuality is given a death sentence in the Old Testament but there is NO condemnation of female homosexuality in the Old Testament? What does this say about the culture that produced the Old Testament?
YOU SAID "Rick Santorum can't define it..."" I SAY You will not be able to find anyone who does not hold a conviction that is not in some way based on Christian principles; including yourself; or do you approve of murder? Truth is, hard as people try, you can't totally separate the two (Christianity & Government). Santorum and a number of other politicians are just bold enough to admit it in public.
I have to say, Rick really stood up to Pier in this interview. His answers were honest, eloquent, logical and most of all B R A V E. He said what he really thinks about this issue, but you can tell there´s no hatred in his heart.
YOU SAID "it sounds like you are coming out here." I SAY No, I am not "coming out". FYI - I'm not hiding anything I am ashamed of, or afraid of how people will receive me. Thanks for asking.
So this guy, the interviewee, at one point says, cleverly in his eyes, that he doesn't think truth changes depending on the era... hmm... I know a few things that did change from the past to the modern day, like the fact we are no longer forced to believe the earth is at the centre of the universe... Or is it just an exception that confirms the rule for him? And that is just one example out of a long series of things the catholic doctrine changed since it's inception...
@@suaveosami Yes, that was the belief of the Catholic church before. That’s why Galileo Galilei was prosecuted for introducing the Heliocentric model of the universe.
I will never understand how a man can look at another man and think to himself "oh yeah, I want some of that". I also don't understand how man can look at a good looking woman and not be excited. I just don't get it. Sorry.
Its normal, when your where in your moms belly you had a hormone peak that made you attracted to girls, few male dont have it and are attracted to man, the same way most woman have no peak making them attracted to men and a few have a peak making them attracted to women.
Well that means you’re straight, congratulations. I also don’t understand how combustion engines work either but I don’t say they don’t exist. Or that they should be illegal
Case in point: the separation of religion and State. Rick and his supporters do not accept it-but that is okay. Even if they manage to change public policy in their favor, there is hell and high water to pay. They'll win the battle but lose the war.
@tytheeman20 You are getting more and more inconsistent. So you started admiring masculinity at age 6. That doesn't make you gay. Masculinity is an admirable thing. But at age 6 you were like other boys. You are biologically a boy aren't you? It is biologically incorrect to say that you were not like other boys. If you want to posit that psychologically, you were not like other boys, I may agree with that statement, but I didn't know you then.
How can you discriminate against a behavior? That doesnt make any sense. You can certainly discriminate about a race... Youll have to explain that to me.
does that mean that i should have the constitutional right to vote. because he said it doesn't matter where you are in your life cycle, you should always have constitutional rights.
I think we should, instead stigmatizing these is not good , I mean yeah we all have our beliefs, cultures, religions and we must learn to respect people and what they decide to be in, I mean I am against homosexuality but I don't hate homosexualists I respect them and their sexual rights.
You Said "They can not help being gay" I SAY How do you know this? The "act" of sexuality is a learned behavior. I'm not saying being sexually aware is learned, I'm saying what you do with your sexual desires are learned behaviors. EVERY act you make is by your own choice. Why do so many people forget about the time in their life when they learned about the "Birds and the Bees?" Think back to that time & remember your mindset; with honesty you can prove this to yourself.
Being gay is not a behavior. It's something someone is born with, just like you are born into a certain race. Trying to say that gay people can have the same thing as marriage, but to call it something different is being separate but equal and that was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
or from timothy "Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them." (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
There is however some glimmer of rationale in what he says though, and I'm going to use myself as an example. I'm a heterosexual atheist and I like and respect people of all walks of life. However in terms of transexuals, and I've met a few who I have really liked. By and large as with people of other walks of life they're fundamentally good people. I don't however believe they're truly women. I mean after all, I have had to ask myself would I for the sake of argument date someone who had gender alignment surgery to look like a woman and I'd have to say, no. It's just the way I feel but does that mean I am hateful or bigoted? No. I have no truck with another man wanting to become involved with someone who is transexual or even getting married to them. I personally couldn't understand it but then it doesn't matter if I do. It matters that the other man does. It's a free society and people are allowed to do what they like within reason so long as it doesn't hurt or infringe on other people's rights. In his case it's the right to choose as is mine. Both should be respected and to make that decision one way or another is not necessarily hateful or bigoted.
read all of the bible "you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) the bible should not be taken literally
Because he has the guts to say what we all know. It's a slippery slope. Started with "we just want to get married" then it was we just want to dress in drag and twerk in front of kids. Now at pride parades they are chanting "we are coming for your children." Whoever you sleep with is your business, we don't need all this overly sexualized kink being paraded on the streets in front of kids.
@@JohnSmith-rq5voyeah that’s why black and whites shouldn’t be allowed marriage. In fact, people who aren’t already related by blood shouldn’t get married! It’s a slippery slope…
@md2016st It's this kind of hatred that creates all the conflict and violence in our country today. Before you go and attack me for my beliefs as well, let me point out that I am a 15-year-old girl from a Midwestern high school. Just because Santorum is an attorney doesn't make him automatically right; neither do his views make him a bad person. However, homosexuality exists, and gay people have as much right to a good and fulfilling life as any other person, because they are people.
@CatholicAmerican Sorry, I'm not inconsistent about anything I said. At that age, the same as a straight person, there is a socialization and more of an awareness of other humans and their gender. A little straight boy will be curious of girls and vice versa. The world doesn't revolve around what you see and what this particular society views as predominant. There are people who are naturally different and shouldn't be punished for that. I can tell you now - I'm done with this whole discussion.
And i grew up always thinking it's ok to murder someone. I never saw any harm in that. I'm naturally different as well so i guess i shouldn't be punished for it. Everyone thinks differently.
@tytheeman20 You make a grave logical error when you say that I "decided to be str8". I didn't decide anything. that's just how human sexual anatomy works. There was no conscious decision about it. There's no gay gene and there's no "str8" gene. There is sexual anatomy and the observable complementarity of the sexes. This complementarity isn't an opinion, it's a biological fact.
@CatholicAmerican Ok - get it through your head - as a gay person, I have never had the desire or attraction for a woman. At the age of 6, there is no scientific support that would suggest someone is consciously thinking about sex and how to carry it out. Therefore, there is no evidence that would support that a 6 year old would choose to ignore one sexuality and defiantly choose the opposite. At age 6, I could realize that I was not like other boys. Ur getting annoying - I dont need to explain
@tytheeman20 If you adopted a daughter and some time down the road in her teen years she told you that she was an anorexic. What would you try to do for her? What kind of love would your girl need? Would you try to explain the facts to her? Would you stop eating in solidarity with her? Would you ignore the reality of human digestion because it contradicts your daughter's desires and behavior? Do you see where I'm going? It's neither bigotry, nor hate to oppose disordered human behaviors.
How is it disordered behavior when it's observed in the animal kingdom in over 1500 animal species? God does not exist get over yourself and grow the fuck up
@tytheeman20 Biologically speaking, homogenital acts are acts of mutual masturbation. Masturbation is an imitation of the real thing. And yet the natural design of your anatomy does not suggest that you use your anatomy in a homogenital manner, rather the design of anatomy coherently functions only in a heterosexual manner. To put it another way. The plumbing doesn't work that way.
The old testament doesn't apply? So the 10 Commandments don't apply? The Genesis story doesn't apply? You cannot pick and choose like this. The truth is, you do not get your morals from the Bible, rather you pick from the Bible what you like based on your own morals that you already have.
news flash, ricki... the only thing that is the same about marriage over the past 2000 years is that it's between a man and a woman. marriage today is NOTHING like it was 2000 years ago. women were seen as inferior and had NO say in the marriage. she did not need to consent into the marriage. he could buy her and make her his wife. in this day and age, TWO ADULTS MUST CONSENT in order to enter a marriage union.
The question I am wondering if Rick would answer if I had a chance to give it to him is according to the Bible, it states that its not ok for a man to be alone so God made female. So for me, I am not attracted to females. But to males. But there is no one to be with me. Cause if I express that, I am in sin. So I am doomed to be alone. Which God would say isnt right. Where am I to go?
Go to God who can save and deliver you. There men who were homosexual, rapist, some like animals and some like children to have sex with but were save and delivered by God. My friend sin is sin. My sin is no better than yours but Jesus Christ will save and change us if we repent and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Gid loves sinners but He hates sin.
It's your closed mind that embarrasses us Christians. The Bible is a document meant for interpretation but never meant to persecute others. That is not the way that Christ preached. The problem here is that you are far too wrapped up on how your preacher/priest told you to interpret the old testament when our job as Christians is to focus on the words written in red. You are correct though. This exchange is over.
YOU SAID "I'm so confused, they either have all the rights or not, as a tiny fetus, or a homosexual adult." I SAY You can lose your rights, your freedom, all the way up to your life as a youth or adult in a number of legal ways since the beginning of law. I want to believe you are aware of morality... aren't you?
Are you telling me homosexual behavior is not... a behavior? Please expand on that. Yes, people are born with behaviors. Race is a trait not a behavior, but both are things people are born with. Marriage implys the possibility of procreation; so you see the obvious problem with two individuals of the same gender trying to reserve this privilege. Remember, marriage is a societal privilege not a right.
@tytheeman20 Religion doesn't dictate reality and our discussion is not one of religion. It's about the biological facts of human sexuality. Human sexual anatomy. Human reproductive cells. Most importantly it's about the intellectual inconsistency of pretending that human desire has the power to change biological reality. It can't. Human desires that do not fit in to the clearly observable biological facts of their body is grounds for calling same sex attraction a neurosis like anorexia.
So basically your saying we should assume everything we hear is true until it can prove itself wrong. This is why science laughs in the face of religion. Religion tries to find facts to support or fit a conclusion rather than trying to find a conclusion based on the currently presented facts. This is nonsensical, its unscientific, its naive, and its childish.
@ThePyro89 we are talking about gay marriage here. if the argument you want to use is that God made people gay just like there are animals that are gay so gay marriage is something God is for than we can talk about the issue from that perspective (the one of religion and specifically Christianity) too. If that's what you're saying the Christian belief is that God created everything perfect in the beginning and man's sin allowed evil and death to enter the world.
@cunard61 There is no freedom FROM religion in the Constitution. It is freedom OF religion and is meant to keep the FEDERAL goverment out of religion. Problem with the "oh, things change" in regards to the Constitution is that eventually it will be so altered that what we end up with will be a mess that none of us will enjoy. And religion has been used for determining what is right and wrong for hundreds of years, ours used the teachings in the Bible.
@iamemiliodelgado You're right that he would be a terrible father to a gay kid. I also don't wish any other gay person physical harm or mental agony as a result of assholes like Rick Santorum. But, it would force him to actually try to recognize the truth that being gay is not a choice and can't be taught to somebody.
If Rick "Look-My-Name-Up-On-Google" were even aware that there were other countries in the world, he would probably whip him himself up into a frenzy and be spewing filthy froth out of both ends every time one supported gay rights. He would have just had that opportunity when the Parliament in New Zealand--not that Santorum has ever heard of New Zealand--by a vote of 77 to 44, just passed full gay marriage there. It is the first nation in the Pacific to do so. More will follow.
@stevesmithjr52 I didn't say anything about the constitution. You are correct in the fact the constitution doesn't state word for word "separation of church and state" but it is derived from the establishment clause of the first amendment and also a letter from Thomas Jefferson. It's very interesting stuff, you should really read up on it.
I dont think it is neccesarily a human life when conception occurs. It is one cell the multiplies and does not become a human until millions of cellular replications. The DNA of a human is there, but a human body is not yet formed. Just something i thought of after listening to this
I'm on the side that knows it's unconstitutional to use religion in your politics. Also, I can use caps lock if I damn well please. Also, just don't talk down to me. I'm not at all tolerant of that.
@CatholicAmerican Well it's great that YOU want to seek the Truth because I sure dont have to on the matter. Being as though you're not listening to an actual gay person seems like you don't have a desire to know the Truth - you're working to change MY mind. But sorry, this is something you can't change. Since you "decided" to be str8, you have all the opportunity in the world. There's no need to try & convert a gay person to be str8. Live your life - we'll worry about protecting our own rights.
@gaminginpublic how is his response moronic? piers morgan picks at him (as seems to be his style God bless him) and santorum responds rationally and clearly
Of course there are behaviors that are homosexual, but /being/ gay isn't a behavior. Do you consider being straight a behavior as well? Yes marriage can imply procreation, but that isn't the only thing marriage is about. And what would you say to maybe a straight couple who is sterile that want to marry? Would you deny them the right because they can't procreate. And the fact that marriage isn't a right is the exact reason why it's so preposterous that we have to fight for it.
""YOU"" SAID "38:9 "Onan disobeying a direct order of God." I SAY If you really can't see it after reading that I find myself exhausted her in. It really is to bad so many people are "not able" to apply Eph 1:17 in their lives it's truly sad. I'm not saying you can't in totality no one can. I am saying It has made this exchange pointless. I don't see continuing this exchange as helping anyone. It can embarrasses Christianity. Let's quit as disagreed. Thank you.
@lost686girl They are not my facts. I am not the author of sexual anatomy. I am not the one who programmed human gametes. Trying to turn this into a religious discussion is completely dishonest. I am sticking to biological fact. If you can't then don't argue.
@lost686girl We haven't really been arguing. You don't engage the point of departure. You simply assert your opinion and will hear nothing that contradicts your world view.
@lost686girl Are you talking about Ivanka Savic's research? If so then why not mention his name? That's what I would have done if I were trying to posit theories that contradict the dynamics of human sexual anatomy and reproductive cells. That's how you cultivate healthy scrutiny of subject matter, you be as transparent with your information as possible. Am I wrong?
YOU SAID "I dont understand it...you acknowledge that the paradox... I SAY I don't understand how gravity holds me on the ground but it's obviously real. Just because a Christian does not understand, or is not capable of explaining every detailed question you have about God, does not in ANY WAY make God less real. It's not anyone's responsibility but your own to challenge the reality of God in your life. It's like gravity, we can chose to ignore, or make fun of it, but it's still there unseen.
YOU SAID "...when in nature there are many animals that are" (gay). I SAY (I hope you receive this) Animals do not have sex for pleasure alone. It is a reproductive act for animals as they were made to reproduce that way. Gay people "don't" reproduce. God creating same sex animal reproduction methods in nature, does not justify before God, a humans gay sex that is strictly for pleasure.
Newsflash dude, everyone’s beliefs are forced onto other people every day. It’s called politics. I don’t believe I should be taxed at what I’m taxed, but I am anyways, and there’s nothing I can do about it. Get over yourself.
@lost686girl People who are addicted to objectively disordered sexual behavior are not fit to be the parents of orphans. People who are addicted to objectively disordered amounts of alcohol are also unfit to be the parents of orphans. Gay activists fighting to impose intolerance and discrimination against people and organizations that hold fast to the biological facts of sexual anatomy and reproductive cells.
@tytheeman20 You're right, same sex attraction isn't a choice. It's an environmentally conditioned neurosis. Nobody is born gay. Human sexual anatomy has a specific purpose and function. To ignore the biological facts when formulating an opinion on homosexuality puts you completely in the realm of subjective opinion. This is why you feel the need to posture and call Rick an asshole. You don't know Rick. You have no grounds for making such a statement. Shame on you for making the statement.
@CatholicAmerican How am what I saying considered an opinion? I am gay, therefore, what I am telling you about gay people and what being gay means is just that. It is complete fact. - You, not being, are the one who have the opinion about why gay people are gay. Every single gay person in the world will tell you that your OPINION is WRONG.
@Renfield37 Whatever you say. No point in arguing with someone like you. You say it's stupid not to follow the Bible? I say it's stupid for you not to believe Harry Potter.
LOL Santorum. When he has sex with his wife, his sperm creates a fully formed, albeit very tiny, human being. I don't know about anyone else but when I get someone pregnant it definitely makes an embryo first.
Oh it sounds like you are coming out here. So how long were you attracted to boys before you decided to go for the girls. Who was your first boy crush? Did you secretly want to kiss him?
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What ever happened to separation of church and state? He admits his morals are biblical based and wants to enforce them on others by the means of law.
Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state educate me please
No ,it means the state gives u the right to study any religion u like, and the state can’t interfere .
@@karlreichert9051 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Essentially, Congress can't ban religion, can't enforce religion.
@@karlreichert9051 “congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion”
@@wd3185 you get separation of church and state from that? Government stay out of the church but never for the church to stay out of government.
....." If God had wanted me otherwise, He would have created me otherwise..."
( J.W. von Goethe )
Does that go for murderers and rapists, too?🙃
Can you give me a source for this quotation. Original is OK. Ich Kann deutsch lesen.
New Jersey there’s difference between the 3 dough?
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Murderers choose to murder. Rapists choose to rape. You cannot choose your sexuality.
@@glencarbon2533 Not true. some people are born as psychopaths and find it fun to mnurder
What’s so funny about this is people still don’t recognize is that sexuality and sexual expression and practice is a sense of being. No one chooses what their sexuality is no matter what anyone says. Because then the question of the conversation is did u choose to be straight.....
Its not a choice, its determined by an hormone peak or it absence in the brain during the pregancy...
@@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232 its a complex choice that you have control over..
@@trey6388 not at all, all you can choose is to embrace who you are or not
@@trey6388 even if it was a choice it wouldn't matter...you still cannot deny them the right to be married.
@@trey6388 not at all. If you have control over it then that would make all of us bisexual. Can you choose to like men instead of woman? Are you bisexual?
"Completely and fully human at the point of conception." They don't even have a heart until the 5th week.
I bet you haven’t heard of pacemakers have you
Why do these hardcore "christians" pick and choose what they want to believe in the Bible? The BIble also says that I can sell my daughter into slavery, hair trimming is forbidden, you can't wear two different types of threads in garments, eating shellfish is an abomination, etc..... Why of all these out of date things do they choose to still focus on this one thing in a book FULL of do's and don'ts?
Gay is ok! Hate is not!
When are we finally going to come to the realization that certain people's religious views are irrelevant when it comes to a Country that has a separation of Church and State?
Separation of church and state means that state can't govern the church, like taking away tax exempt status from churches that are against lgbtq therefore governing them, lgbtq is secularism/humanism being established as the state religion and if the church disagrees they will either comply or be torn down, this is what the framers were against , duhhhh
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The church didn't get Federal tax-exempt status until 1913 dumbass
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Our own U.S. Senate, in 1797, stated clearly that “the government of theUnited States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christianreligion.”
@@thomasgriffiths6758 totally irrelevant,get your government from controlling our religion trying to redefine our.marriage, the government has no right , seperation of church and state, hypocrite!!!! you nazi
@@fredarroyo7429 That’s not what separation of church and state means. It would only be relevant if they had a religious law citing the Bible, people can hold religious values that guide policy all they want.
i love that he talks about a fetus having rights but he thinks gays shouldn't. freak.
So let me get this straight. Life starts at conception, and so that tiny life deserves every right as any other person in America. So when that little life grows up to become an adult, and turns out to be gay they lose those some of those rights, even though you said that every life deserves normal human rights like marriages, taxes, and being able to see a loved one on their dying bed. I'm so confused, they either have all the rights or not, as a tiny fetus, or a homosexual adult.
@@monika96silva your example doesn’t make sense. There are thousands of gods, so I’m sorry your god isn’t the one and only. Several types of religions and cultures with different types of marriages that have nothing to do with god. That’s why religion is a personal choice, whatever you want to believe is up to you. No one cares which invisible friend you want to believe in do you, as long as your arent pushing it on other. Even the people in those religions can’t decide, what they want to believe. Since it was written thousands ago by people who wanted control over the masses. They are just trying to find other ways of control really at this point.
@@monika96silva gay marriage was illegal in the united states before Obama became president, and people ARE saying that gay people shouldn't get married, I have no idea why you're saying that gay people are just "playing victim" as many LGBT identities are discriminated against every day but you choose to ignore that
The prohibition of homosexual marriage affects the rights of gays to the same extent as it affects straight men. As well as a ban on killing or selling sawn-off shotguns. If you're straight, you can't marry a man like any gay
@@LeyechenThey did not have the right to marry people of the same sex. As well as straights. This is not a defeat of the rights of a particular social group
@@eotanasLI u reopened this ancient tomb of a comment whats going on
“I don’t think right or wrong changes based on different areas of time” such a simple yet also powerful response to the most ridiculous example of bigotry
I don't mind gay marriages but I'm not for abortion and legal drugs and all the other stuff
There is no such thing as a gay marriage just as much as there’s no such thing as foreside and triangles. The word marriage is French for the word matrimony the word matrimony means one mother matri means mother and .monos means one … so just like triangles implies three angles, marriage and flies. One mother to men cannot be one mother and two women can’t be mothers unless you’re involve a male but again it doesn’t apply to women because you have potential with two mothers so it doesn’t work either way. The only response I ever get from this is definitions James since when did mother main male on since when do one mean plural??
No one is born gay. This is a madness that has gone too far
source on that? not tryna be rude just wondering
Then why is it observed in over 1500 animal species dip shit dumb fuck
"I don't think right and wrong changes over time" That's where he got it wrong. Opinions on right and wrong change quite regularly. Religion can't be used as standard to determine what is right or wrong. It's the reason there's a freedon of religion, and a freedom from religion.
Why is it that male homosexuality is given a death sentence in the Old Testament but there is NO condemnation of female homosexuality in the Old Testament? What does this say about the culture that produced the Old Testament?
It says nothing as the Wholly Babble is a book of fallacy and wild imagination.
Hmmm.. not sure about Piers Morgan being a true catholic..
YOU SAID "Rick Santorum can't define it..."" I SAY You will not be able to find anyone who does not hold a conviction that is not in some way based on Christian principles; including yourself; or do you approve of murder? Truth is, hard as people try, you can't totally separate the two (Christianity & Government). Santorum and a number of other politicians are just bold enough to admit it in public.
I have to say, Rick really stood up to Pier in this interview. His answers were honest, eloquent, logical and most of all B R A V E. He said what he really thinks about this issue, but you can tell there´s no hatred in his heart.
YOU SAID "it sounds like you are coming out here." I SAY No, I am not "coming out". FYI - I'm not hiding anything I am ashamed of, or afraid of how people will receive me. Thanks for asking.
So this guy, the interviewee, at one point says, cleverly in his eyes, that he doesn't think truth changes depending on the era... hmm... I know a few things that did change from the past to the modern day, like the fact we are no longer forced to believe the earth is at the centre of the universe... Or is it just an exception that confirms the rule for him? And that is just one example out of a long series of things the catholic doctrine changed since it's inception...
When did the Bible ever say the earth is the center of the universe
@@suaveosami Yes, that was the belief of the Catholic church before. That’s why Galileo Galilei was prosecuted for introducing the Heliocentric model of the universe.
I will never understand how a man can look at another man and think to himself "oh yeah, I want some of that". I also don't understand how man can look at a good looking woman and not be excited. I just don't get it. Sorry.
You’re kidding me right?
Its normal, when your where in your moms belly you had a hormone peak that made you attracted to girls, few male dont have it and are attracted to man, the same way most woman have no peak making them attracted to men and a few have a peak making them attracted to women.
Uh yeah... because you're not gay. Straight logic.
Maybe its because you're not? Are u mental?
Well that means you’re straight, congratulations. I also don’t understand how combustion engines work either but I don’t say they don’t exist. Or that they should be illegal
at 4 minutes he suggests that a fetus deserves equal rights, but gays aren't allowed the right to marry? nice contradiction
Case in point: the separation of religion and State. Rick and his supporters do not accept it-but that is okay. Even if they manage to change public policy in their favor, there is hell and high water to pay. They'll win the battle but lose the war.
Truth does not change.
And Rick Santorum doesn’t believe in the truth.
its the ✨confusing comment section✨ for me
@tytheeman20
You are getting more and more inconsistent. So you started admiring masculinity at age 6. That doesn't make you gay. Masculinity is an admirable thing. But at age 6 you were like other boys. You are biologically a boy aren't you? It is biologically incorrect to say that you were not like other boys. If you want to posit that psychologically, you were not like other boys, I may agree with that statement, but I didn't know you then.
I think Rick Santorum is crazy, but the man is a slick speaker.
I don't think he is crazy, even though I don't agree with some of his views. He is just an oldschool Christian.
How can you discriminate against a behavior? That doesnt make any sense. You can certainly discriminate about a race... Youll have to explain that to me.
does that mean that i should have the constitutional right to vote. because he said it doesn't matter where you are in your life cycle, you should always have constitutional rights.
We are all at different stages in our life cycle.
“Some truths don’t change” what does he feel about slavery LMAOOO
Rick Santorum was right all along.
I think we should, instead stigmatizing these is not good , I mean yeah we all have our beliefs, cultures, religions and we must learn to respect people and what they decide to be in, I mean I am against homosexuality but I don't hate homosexualists I respect them and their sexual rights.
You Said "They can not help being gay" I SAY How do you know this? The "act" of sexuality is a learned behavior. I'm not saying being sexually aware is learned, I'm saying what you do with your sexual desires are learned behaviors. EVERY act you make is by your own choice. Why do so many people forget about the time in their life when they learned about the "Birds and the Bees?" Think back to that time & remember your mindset; with honesty you can prove this to yourself.
No, I just don't watch CNN. I don't know anything about him, what has he done that is so terrible?
Being gay is not a behavior. It's something someone is born with, just like you are born into a certain race. Trying to say that gay people can have the same thing as marriage, but to call it something different is being separate but equal and that was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
I take that as I've just won this debate.
“It’s a biological fact that a human life begins at conception.” That can be easily debunked.
How
Do it then
I'd be interested to hear the counter argument.
Great job standing for truth, in all humility and love, Mr. Santorum. Well done.
not truth , lets not degrade that word , theres no fact for christianity its just a fairy tales. but atleast dude is not an asshole, ill give you that
Exactly my point, thanks for substantiating that God never said go be slaves. It is not an institution ordained by God in any way.
No just condoned and codified by him. He litterally tells you how to treat slaves depending on their origins and how cruel you can be and remain moral
or from timothy
"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them." (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
The truth does change with time. Slavery anyone?
Yes religion is bigoted! Christians live your life and leave others alone! You just can't do it can you!
calling someone a bigot when all they are saying something is wrong is bigoted.
There is however some glimmer of rationale in what he says though, and I'm going to use myself as an example. I'm a heterosexual atheist and I like and respect people of all walks of life. However in terms of transexuals, and I've met a few who I have really liked. By and large as with people of other walks of life they're fundamentally good people. I don't however believe they're truly women. I mean after all, I have had to ask myself would I for the sake of argument date someone who had gender alignment surgery to look like a woman and I'd have to say, no. It's just the way I feel but does that mean I am hateful or bigoted? No.
I have no truck with another man wanting to become involved with someone who is transexual or even getting married to them. I personally couldn't understand it but then it doesn't matter if I do. It matters that the other man does. It's a free society and people are allowed to do what they like within reason so long as it doesn't hurt or infringe on other people's rights. In his case it's the right to choose as is mine. Both should be respected and to make that decision one way or another is not necessarily hateful or bigoted.
The real problem is people cant hear others opinions without getting upset people should all have the same rights no special rights for special people
@@hanj31 no it's not cause it's not wrong lol wtf
what happened to if a girl is found not a virgin she shall be stoned to death...do we still do that? no...cause we are in a DIFFERENT ERA.
read all of the bible
"you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
the bible should not be taken literally
We need more Rick Santorums.
Why?
Because he has the guts to say what we all know. It's a slippery slope. Started with "we just want to get married" then it was we just want to dress in drag and twerk in front of kids. Now at pride parades they are chanting "we are coming for your children."
Whoever you sleep with is your business, we don't need all this overly sexualized kink being paraded on the streets in front of kids.
@@JohnSmith-rq5voyeah that’s why black and whites shouldn’t be allowed marriage. In fact, people who aren’t already related by blood shouldn’t get married! It’s a slippery slope…
Also Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves."
KMSZK4599 also the Bible says treat ur slaves well because slavery was a large thing at the time
@md2016st It's this kind of hatred that creates all the conflict and violence in our country today. Before you go and attack me for my beliefs as well, let me point out that I am a 15-year-old girl from a Midwestern high school. Just because Santorum is an attorney doesn't make him automatically right; neither do his views make him a bad person. However, homosexuality exists, and gay people have as much right to a good and fulfilling life as any other person, because they are people.
@CatholicAmerican Sorry, I'm not inconsistent about anything I said. At that age, the same as a straight person, there is a socialization and more of an awareness of other humans and their gender. A little straight boy will be curious of girls and vice versa. The world doesn't revolve around what you see and what this particular society views as predominant. There are people who are naturally different and shouldn't be punished for that. I can tell you now - I'm done with this whole discussion.
And i grew up always thinking it's ok to murder someone. I never saw any harm in that. I'm naturally different as well so i guess i shouldn't be punished for it. Everyone thinks differently.
@tytheeman20
You make a grave logical error when you say that I "decided to be str8". I didn't decide anything. that's just how human sexual anatomy works. There was no conscious decision about it. There's no gay gene and there's no "str8" gene. There is sexual anatomy and the observable complementarity of the sexes. This complementarity isn't an opinion, it's a biological fact.
You case you missed it, that's discrimination. The whole separate but equal thing. Yeah, you can't do that.
Cause that's what we humans should do when we don't like something
Rick, did you ever figure out what that lubricious brown fluid was that they labeled with your name?
@CatholicAmerican Ok - get it through your head - as a gay person, I have never had the desire or attraction for a woman. At the age of 6, there is no scientific support that would suggest someone is consciously thinking about sex and how to carry it out. Therefore, there is no evidence that would support that a 6 year old would choose to ignore one sexuality and defiantly choose the opposite. At age 6, I could realize that I was not like other boys. Ur getting annoying - I dont need to explain
I fear Rick Santorum will be elected president eventually.
He is in the cult.
He was right.
@tytheeman20
If you adopted a daughter and some time down the road in her teen years she told you that she was an anorexic. What would you try to do for her? What kind of love would your girl need? Would you try to explain the facts to her? Would you stop eating in solidarity with her? Would you ignore the reality of human digestion because it contradicts your daughter's desires and behavior? Do you see where I'm going? It's neither bigotry, nor hate to oppose disordered human behaviors.
How is it disordered behavior when it's observed in the animal kingdom in over 1500 animal species? God does not exist get over yourself and grow the fuck up
@tytheeman20
Biologically speaking, homogenital acts are acts of mutual masturbation. Masturbation is an imitation of the real thing. And yet the natural design of your anatomy does not suggest that you use your anatomy in a homogenital manner, rather the design of anatomy coherently functions only in a heterosexual manner.
To put it another way. The plumbing doesn't work that way.
The old testament doesn't apply? So the 10 Commandments don't apply? The Genesis story doesn't apply? You cannot pick and choose like this. The truth is, you do not get your morals from the Bible, rather you pick from the Bible what you like based on your own morals that you already have.
news flash, ricki... the only thing that is the same about marriage over the past 2000 years is that it's between a man and a woman. marriage today is NOTHING like it was 2000 years ago. women were seen as inferior and had NO say in the marriage. she did not need to consent into the marriage. he could buy her and make her his wife. in this day and age, TWO ADULTS MUST CONSENT in order to enter a marriage union.
The question I am wondering if Rick would answer if I had a chance to give it to him is according to the Bible, it states that its not ok for a man to be alone so God made female. So for me, I am not attracted to females. But to males. But there is no one to be with me. Cause if I express that, I am in sin. So I am doomed to be alone. Which God would say isnt right. Where am I to go?
Go to God who can save and deliver you. There men who were homosexual, rapist, some like animals and some like children to have sex with but were save and delivered by God. My friend sin is sin. My sin is no better than yours but Jesus Christ will save and change us if we repent and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Gid loves sinners but He hates sin.
It's your closed mind that embarrasses us Christians. The Bible is a document meant for interpretation but never meant to persecute others. That is not the way that Christ preached. The problem here is that you are far too wrapped up on how your preacher/priest told you to interpret the old testament when our job as Christians is to focus on the words written in red. You are correct though. This exchange is over.
That literally made no sense.
YOU SAID "I'm so confused, they either have all the rights or not, as a tiny fetus, or a homosexual adult." I SAY You can lose your rights, your freedom, all the way up to your life as a youth or adult in a number of legal ways since the beginning of law. I want to believe you are aware of morality... aren't you?
Are you telling me homosexual behavior is not... a behavior? Please expand on that. Yes, people are born with behaviors. Race is a trait not a behavior, but both are things people are born with. Marriage implys the possibility of procreation; so you see the obvious problem with two individuals of the same gender trying to reserve this privilege. Remember, marriage is a societal privilege not a right.
I'm writing a paper on prejudice based on the first half of this video!
@tytheeman20
Religion doesn't dictate reality and our discussion is not one of religion. It's about the biological facts of human sexuality. Human sexual anatomy. Human reproductive cells. Most importantly it's about the intellectual inconsistency of pretending that human desire has the power to change biological reality. It can't. Human desires that do not fit in to the clearly observable biological facts of their body is grounds for calling same sex attraction a neurosis like anorexia.
So basically your saying we should assume everything we hear is true until it can prove itself wrong. This is why science laughs in the face of religion. Religion tries to find facts to support or fit a conclusion rather than trying to find a conclusion based on the currently presented facts. This is nonsensical, its unscientific, its naive, and its childish.
@ThePyro89 we are talking about gay marriage here. if the argument you want to use is that God made people gay just like there are animals that are gay so gay marriage is something God is for than we can talk about the issue from that perspective (the one of religion and specifically Christianity) too. If that's what you're saying the Christian belief is that God created everything perfect in the beginning and man's sin allowed evil and death to enter the world.
@cunard61 There is no freedom FROM religion in the Constitution. It is freedom OF religion and is meant to keep the FEDERAL goverment out of religion.
Problem with the "oh, things change" in regards to the Constitution is that eventually it will be so altered that what we end up with will be a mess that none of us will enjoy.
And religion has been used for determining what is right and wrong for hundreds of years, ours used the teachings in the Bible.
@iamemiliodelgado You're right that he would be a terrible father to a gay kid. I also don't wish any other gay person physical harm or mental agony as a result of assholes like Rick Santorum. But, it would force him to actually try to recognize the truth that being gay is not a choice and can't be taught to somebody.
If Rick "Look-My-Name-Up-On-Google" were even aware that there were other countries in the world, he would probably whip him himself up into a frenzy and be spewing filthy froth out of both ends every time one supported gay rights.
He would have just had that opportunity when the Parliament in New Zealand--not that Santorum has ever heard of New Zealand--by a vote of 77 to 44, just passed full gay marriage there. It is the first nation in the Pacific to do so. More will follow.
I wonder if all of his clothes are a pure fabric because if they are mixes he is going to hell!
His nose is crooked
thats what i noticed too😂😂😂😂
@stevesmithjr52
I didn't say anything about the constitution. You are correct in the fact the constitution doesn't state word for word "separation of church and state" but it is derived from the establishment clause of the first amendment and also a letter from Thomas Jefferson. It's very interesting stuff, you should really read up on it.
I dont think it is neccesarily a human life when conception occurs. It is one cell the multiplies and does not become a human until millions of cellular replications. The DNA of a human is there, but a human body is not yet formed. Just something i thought of after listening to this
I'm on the side that knows it's unconstitutional to use religion in your politics. Also, I can use caps lock if I damn well please. Also, just don't talk down to me. I'm not at all tolerant of that.
@CatholicAmerican Well it's great that YOU want to seek the Truth because I sure dont have to on the matter. Being as though you're not listening to an actual gay person seems like you don't have a desire to know the Truth - you're working to change MY mind. But sorry, this is something you can't change. Since you "decided" to be str8, you have all the opportunity in the world. There's no need to try & convert a gay person to be str8. Live your life - we'll worry about protecting our own rights.
Typical conservative,rights for me but not for thee.
@gaminginpublic how is his response moronic? piers morgan picks at him (as seems to be his style God bless him) and santorum responds rationally and clearly
Umm no he doesn't he points out that he's a bigot then gets defensive
mr. Santorum, the bible also supports slavery, so to take everything it says as literal truth is just stupid
Where in the Bible support slavery?
Justify that slavery is immoral
@Raineygoodyears Nice questions. How you can find the answers.
Of course there are behaviors that are homosexual, but /being/ gay isn't a behavior. Do you consider being straight a behavior as well? Yes marriage can imply procreation, but that isn't the only thing marriage is about. And what would you say to maybe a straight couple who is sterile that want to marry? Would you deny them the right because they can't procreate. And the fact that marriage isn't a right is the exact reason why it's so preposterous that we have to fight for it.
Not everyone wants America should b run policy on religion.
""YOU"" SAID "38:9 "Onan disobeying a direct order of God." I SAY If you really can't see it after reading that I find myself exhausted her in. It really is to bad so many people are "not able" to apply Eph 1:17 in their lives it's truly sad. I'm not saying you can't in totality no one can. I am saying It has made this exchange pointless. I don't see continuing this exchange as helping anyone. It can embarrasses Christianity. Let's quit as disagreed. Thank you.
Pierce loves the word "bigot" doesn't he
Yep he does
@lost686girl
They are not my facts. I am not the author of sexual anatomy. I am not the one who programmed human gametes.
Trying to turn this into a religious discussion is completely dishonest.
I am sticking to biological fact. If you can't then don't argue.
Umm the biological fact is its observed in over 1500 animal species dip shit dumb fuck
Rick is FAITHFUL CATHOLIC. Piers not so much.
@nokie bokie In Chicago our mayor Daley once said "Together we will reach higher and higher platitudes" You are an over-achiever.
@nokie bokie Yes, but I know you are really good at belaboring the obvious
@lost686girl
We haven't really been arguing. You don't engage the point of departure. You simply assert your opinion and will hear nothing that contradicts your world view.
@lost686girl
Are you talking about Ivanka Savic's research?
If so then why not mention his name? That's what I would have done if I were trying to posit theories that contradict the dynamics of human sexual anatomy and reproductive cells. That's how you cultivate healthy scrutiny of subject matter, you be as transparent with your information as possible. Am I wrong?
YOU SAID "I dont understand it...you acknowledge that the paradox... I SAY I don't understand how gravity holds me on the ground but it's obviously real. Just because a Christian does not understand, or is not capable of explaining every detailed question you have about God, does not in ANY WAY make God less real. It's not anyone's responsibility but your own to challenge the reality of God in your life. It's like gravity, we can chose to ignore, or make fun of it, but it's still there unseen.
Accept gravity exist God doesn't
YOU SAID "...when in nature there are many animals that are" (gay). I SAY (I hope you receive this) Animals do not have sex for pleasure alone. It is a reproductive act for animals as they were made to reproduce that way. Gay people "don't" reproduce. God creating same sex animal reproduction methods in nature, does not justify before God, a humans gay sex that is strictly for pleasure.
I would like to force my opinion and beliefs on this man like he wants to force his beliefs on me
Newsflash dude, everyone’s beliefs are forced onto other people every day. It’s called politics. I don’t believe I should be taxed at what I’m taxed, but I am anyways, and there’s nothing I can do about it. Get over yourself.
@lost686girl
People who are addicted to objectively disordered sexual behavior are not fit to be the parents of orphans.
People who are addicted to objectively disordered amounts of alcohol are also unfit to be the parents of orphans.
Gay activists fighting to impose intolerance and discrimination against people and organizations that hold fast to the biological facts of sexual anatomy and reproductive cells.
@humanitiesb3 well if you are a bigot, then we will call you a bigot.We will not hold that back.
@tytheeman20
You're right, same sex attraction isn't a choice. It's an environmentally conditioned neurosis. Nobody is born gay. Human sexual anatomy has a specific purpose and function. To ignore the biological facts when formulating an opinion on homosexuality puts you completely in the realm of subjective opinion. This is why you feel the need to posture and call Rick an asshole. You don't know Rick. You have no grounds for making such a statement. Shame on you for making the statement.
@CatholicAmerican How am what I saying considered an opinion? I am gay, therefore, what I am telling you about gay people and what being gay means is just that. It is complete fact. - You, not being, are the one who have the opinion about why gay people are gay. Every single gay person in the world will tell you that your OPINION is WRONG.
You can tell Rick's smile is fake here. He's a nervous wreck.
He is not nervous at all.
its ok next we will work on shapes and colors:) just reread it slowly make sure u make the vowels the correct sound
And your comment is relevant how?
@Renfield37 Whatever you say. No point in arguing with someone like you. You say it's stupid not to follow the Bible? I say it's stupid for you not to believe Harry Potter.
I mean Harry potter is about as believable as the Bible so... 🤣
Isn't there One race called humankind
LOL Santorum. When he has sex with his wife, his sperm creates a fully formed, albeit very tiny, human being. I don't know about anyone else but when I get someone pregnant it definitely makes an embryo first.
Oh it sounds like you are coming out here. So how long were you attracted to boys before you decided to go for the girls. Who was your first boy crush? Did you secretly want to kiss him?