Installing a Pocket Door Frame Over Concrete & Wood
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- We love using pocket doors in our projects, and have included many of them over the years. Paul shows you how to install over a concrete floor or a wood subfloor. Comment below with additional questions you have about the install.
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I just realized I’ll be need to anchor into concrete for this in my shop.
In my dream home, with the exception of doors that open to the outside, EVERY door is a pocket door. I love them!
I did not realize other people liked pocket doors also. I designed a house in HS drafting class and it had pocket doors on the interior and a 4 foot front door.
That's awesome! We like using them.
That's cool!
NICE JOB‼️ Most people who don't like pocket doors are because they or someone else did a lousy Job installing then. I have 3 in my house and they are as good as the day they were installed. QUALITY DOORS ARE A MUST‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸
Thanks!
Every time I watch your videos, I constantly admire you! Probably you are the only blogger in the whole TH-cam who has golden hands!
As they say in Russia, "He moved the whole mountain on his shoulders."
Thanks!
Keep it up..... I appreciate the step by step. I put in a pocket door once and didn’t have it completely level. Depending on the time of year and the expansion/contraction we would hear the door shut on its own and my wife would curse me for not hiring it out. Keep up the good work and the commentary.
Lol
Your videos are so helpful! Thanks for documenting everything for me 😎 As for hanging things (pictures, towel ring/hook, clock, etc.) on pocket door walls once the room is finished, my brother adds a sheet of plywood under or instead of drywall to add strength and eliminate using drywall anchors.
Great idea!! We also use Command strips for a lot of hanging items too!
I enjoy your videos and knowledge, thanks for posting!
I love the sounds of the rain off the metal roof
Yes!
I like those pocket door also. Ive installed some 4/0 white oak, wow what a work out
Thanks!
Really Love you’re Videos! You get things done! Cheers from Germany 🇩🇪
Thank you very much!
Well done. I believe the pocket door is a wholly under-utilised door. They can be done with these units here, or made into very stylish large units that are traditional in very old English mansions. When I build my house, I’m going to make some large ones for most of my doors.
Thanks! When you do build make sure and send us updates!
Love that master closet size!
Thank you! It'll be a great space.
I appreciate the video and please continue with your commentary, some of us are new to this and don’t mind the explanations.
Thank you so much!
I love pocket doors. Good choice!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your videos and construction expertise. We love watching your content and look forward to each and every one you post.
My family has been in the building business for over 70 years in Colorado. We have pocket doors in the house that my father built for our family when we were children. I recently replaced one of them because it was just too old and the track was damaged.
When I took it apart I discovered that my father had placed a sheet of 1/2 plywood over the entire face of that pocket door wall, on both sides. The 2x6 header was built a little differently but has the same effect.
I remember working in construction on his many building sites when I was a teenager. Every pocket door wall we installed were all covered with that half-inch plywood. It's funny, I never really thought about it much, not until I was faced with it again after all those years. That half inch of plywood really strengthens up and quiets the system.
It doesn't look like you have much space to cover along those walls but you might take a bit of advice, from an older guy who was taught by an even older one that I miss everyday. Cover that wall system with sheets of half inch ply. You'll come to appreciate it as the years go by.
That's awesome! Thank you so much for the tip.
Great troubleshooting
That’s a smart idea paul
Thanks!
I love your videos, this is my go to bible when I build my home.
Thank you so much! Be sure and give us updates when you do build!
A tip for keeping chalk lines. After laying them out spray with a clear sealer, lacquer, water based poly, whatever. It will remain for a while.
Great tips!
Thanks!
I really appreciate the video today, good insights. Thanks
Thank you!
Sorry for the late comment, I didn't have wifi for the last 2 days. As always what you do amazes me, keep at it and I can't wait for the other video
Thank you so much!
Awesome stuff and great explanation. I think personally I’d go with a barn door. Kind of the mainstream style right now, but I think it looks great.
We'll have a couple sets of those too!
Thank u for making this lockdown mlre bearable 😊😊 keep safe
Thanks, you too!
Hi ,with poor quality wood I have with studs doors etc taken time to predrill for each and every nail screw and so on to avoid splitting wood . It helped my work took longer but excellent results
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Looking forward to see how you get the door in the frame
Thanks!
I installed a 36” pocket door with soft open / soft close. I made the door 38” so it stuck out of the opening to just grab it to close. I thought it was better than the little flip up handle on a normal pocket door.
Good thought!
Excellent
Very informative -- thanks for sharing your process! How do you factor your finished floor into this install sequence? As it is, since the pocket door frame is installed on the subfloor, how would you carry the finished floor into the pocket such that you don't have a visual break between the two levels of flooring (subfloor and finished floor)?
I love pocket doors.
We do too!
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More to come!
Marshall Remodel I love watching your videos your house looks so amazing 😍❤️
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Suddenly, I want to see the scenery your house overcomes in a terrible storm.
Thank you for uploading video today.
Thanks!
How do you trim this door? It looks like the same one from Menards I purchased. I’m unsure if I put trim over the wood or if I pull that off. I’m talking about the 1 1/4” pieces along the header and where the door goes in the wall
Ed,
Please do a video of installing and removal of Pocket door insert. The actual door, that inserts for your into the pocket.
Prior to attaching the track piece, is it OK to cut the frame height to fit a door 77 3/8?
I'm installing a couple of these in a space where I need more room, same brand. Your video was a lot more helpful than the infographic on the packaging! Also for those people who you mentioned who don't like this kind of door, I have this question: Does the starship _Enterprise_ have doors that swing open on hinges? Q.E.D!
Glad it was helpful! Ha...so true!
Also bathrooms require dedicated 20amp plug circuits, per NEC.
Thanks!
I like the pocket door idea. What’s the name of the company you use for the system
Any pocket doors I install on cement .I PL the base to the cement along with the fasteners. The constant pounding on the doors opening and closing keeps the frames taught to the floors and less bounce on the walls.
Thanks!
Are you going to insulate the interior walls between rooms and the space between the upstairs floor and down stairs ceiling? To help with sound and retain heating and cooling. I had a friend who did it when he built his home and a really big difference in interior sound noice and the heating/cooling bills.
Yes
Not sure if/when you'll see this. We had a pocket door added during a renovation. Our builders took off and I'm left trying to figure out how to do the floors with a pocket door. Any suggestions?
You may have said but what manufacturer do you use for the pocket doors. I’m having a hard time finding them in my part of the wood.Thanks really impressed by your detail to your carpenter skills.Wish I had someone like you down here.
A and F Wood inc is where mine came from.
How do you protect the radiant tubing from the concrete anchors?
He has faith in his setting of the tubing depth.
Drilling around that tubing would give me a small heart attack.
I ask that myself everytime he drills into the ground
He mentioned in another video that the radiant tubing is 5" down so he only goes 2.5-3" deep using tape on the hammer drill.
The slab in the house and garage is 5" so just being sure to not drill even close to that!
Thanks for the info! Where do you get your pocket door frames from and what company are they made by?
We used a basic one from Menards for this build but plan to use Johnson Hardware going forward. They have a great soft open/close system we want to test out. johnsonhardware.com/
What type of blocking used in walls for curtian of towel rods,
We will avoid the pocket door walls, and mainly use hooks instead of full rods.
I noticed that when you removed the staples, the thin 1x split. Did you glue it before you restarted it?
I stapled it from the side to hold it back together.
Ya just dont see enough modern construction with pocket doors. I wish i could put them in my house
Thanks! We love them!
When the pocket door is closed, won’t noise transmit through the wall since it’s core is hollow (hollow due to the gap that the door slides into)? I didn’t see/hear you mention any plans to sound-insulate the pocket walls.
No more than a wall without insulation in it. I’ve had them in most of the house I’ve lived in and not noticed a major difference.
What’s your thoughts on post frame vs metal building?
I’ve never been a part of a metal framed build so not really sure. I’m sure they are super strong. Seems to be used more for commercial than residential.
When installing on concrete, do you recommend a vapor barrier. I saw you put flashing tape on the metal bracket, but what about the wood? My basement was built in the 50s and don’t believe there is a barrier below the concrete.
Absolutely recommend vapor barrier. We also add 2” of insulation.
I really hope the blown-in insulation in the ceiling does the trick. That roof is loud as hell in the rain.
It'll make a significant difference. It'll still be louder than a shingle roof, but nothing like it is currently.
How did you know that you did not drill through the flor heating pex for the ground floor pocket doors?
We poured a 5" slab and the pex is below that.
Where do you put the light switch to the room? Possible to put one on the pocket door casing?
dreamsn2 no, would block the door..
Opposite side of the pocket.
For my Shouse, I purchased 33 used Alder swinging doors in great condition, and want to convert some into pocket doors. Anyone have ideas how to cover up the holes for the regular door knobs and latch so I can reuse these doors?
I've seen most people use some type of medium to fill it like foam or a holesawn chunk of wood to fill 90% of the hole. Then they finish with Bondo to hide it. Then paint over.
@@augustinasvilkas How about a plug of wood to either match the door or accent cut to snugly fit the holes, glue no bondo?
Those are some great ideas!
How wide of a rough opening do you need to install a 36 inch pocket door?
Typically 73” wide and 85” high but check on the specific door you’re getting
Did you consider Soft Close hardware kit?
Soft Close Hardware link:
www.homedepot.com/p/Johnson-Hardware-1060-Soft-Close-or-Soft-Open-Hardware-Kit-1060SOFT/206976203
Thanks for the link!
what is name of those pocket door frame manufacturer?
Paul! You already installed the switch boxes! How tall they are?
We put them 46” to the bottom.
How do you know you’re not going to hit your radiant tubing when drilling?
I'd like to know this as well!
@@TerrydeAlaska so I asked that question when I was getting ready to pour my slab over my radiant heat. Fast forward a year. I am done. Basically what I did was lay my house out on the foam and put my radiant heat away from all potential walls. Tapcon’d my walls to the floor and had no issues.
@@astrong1984 Very smart idea... I put in radiant heat in a airplane hanger house I built a few years ago and didn't think that far ahead and I used liquid nails to secure my bottom plates on all the walls...Love your channel...cheers.
My experience with installed pocket doors over the years has been that the locking mechanisms were more often broken than not.
We've never had problems in past projects, but that's definitely something we've heard from other people.
Have you ever installed an exterior pocket door on an existing concrete slab?
Why not just put the header at height? Is there a need to shim the head?
What kind of tool is that at 13:58 in the bucket? What's it used for? :)
Haha good eye!
What pocket frame door brand are you using?
Used a basic one from Menards for this build, but future looking at using Johnson Hardware for everything related to the pocket doors johnsonhardware.com/
Water leak test, check.👍😁
Totally! It passed!
Outlet/Switch box near shower..??
Nice flex with the chin ups. I'll allow it. :P
haha!
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That switch box within reach of the tub is dangerous...FYI where I live it’s not allowed...
Yes your correct. It’s for a switch and it got put on the wrong side of the wall. Couple people caught it.
no noggin no your interior walls why?
Next time make your R O 1 1/2 IN stead of 2 inches save of plywood
Is it level or plumb? It looks like your are referring to a vertical surface but keep using the term level. The level as a tool has a bubble to indicate plumb when the level is held in the vertical position. Your actions and words don't match.
You are right, technically level is horizontal and plumb is vertical.
we aren't too stupid...once is enough for each explanation....
Why don't you just quitely build your home and lets us enjoy and cherish your hard work. Man you talk too much
Apparently you are an expert in the field while some of us are not. You think he needs to talk less but it is his channel. He has nearly 64k subs and you have..... let me see....3 whole subs. It’s his channel and I appreciate the content and all of the explanation that goes along with it. If you don’t like it don’t watch it!
You are the only one in charge of your volume control...