I know This is the end game content I personally still enjoy genshin though as I got a lot to do still even with being technically closer to the end. I’m just not going to spend this patch as I want to try and have hoyo listen to the actual reasonable criticisms even though the banner already has made a lot of money
@@Blu3M00NS your kicking a cemented wall expecting it to break, but it's reinforced by kryptonium so it ain't breaking. just go with the flow man, criticism for hoyoverse is almost non existent and if it does not give them money, they aren't changing their policies business practices
Totally agree. I am with mtashed on this one. No one has full proof evidence and it really is a he said he said situation and people who more closely follow one or the other is who is gonna be believed more. Both are being called manipulative by each other and both have multiple CCs against yhem including weird ones like Doro against Atsu and Zajef against Tectone.
This C0 Drama is INSANE! Genshin Impact v4.4 Great job keeping it level headed and moderating Mtashed. I watched the whole thing live and can't believe this whole thing blew up all the way to Asmongold.
“Reaction type content that isn’t so fostered in negativity”. Thank you, that’s what the world needs. I’d love to see your outlook on more topics. It’s nice that you seem to assume the best in people rather than the worst.
We've seen Genshin planned for the three wishes: 1. CN Community outrage 2. ZyoX starting the Shibuya Arc Incident 3. The Genshin CC Culling Games begin
This content creator drama was needed. Tectone called all of them out and we possibly really found out that Atsu is the reason why people were being blacklisted.
It's crazy how this was about Atsu, Brax, Teccy and all the other CCs that came out and talked about their experience with Atsu... and then suddenly we are seeing the TRUE Enviosity unfold before our eyes. I still cannot believe it, it's just insane.
Nothing wrong with what Envy tweeted. That video has been passed around for a long time and everyone has trouble watching it because it's so awful. And somehow the one sharing it now is the bad guy. Tectone and his fans are delusional.
I'll be honest, as somebody who doesn't really watch Mtash (not my cup of tea) and not following everything in this whole thing, i can't express how much respect i have for him for this. For the fact that he, as far as i know, was the first person to actively try to look at the situation without biases, try to communicate with people and get to the bottom of situation, more so than actual parties involved. I think it's also kinda telling of the whole community that the only 2 people i've seen to try and do it (at first at least) are Mtash, who isn't really part of the whole drama, and Asmon, who's not even part of the genshin community. This also is a great example of why nobody, including the company who made the game, takes the community seriously, when stuff like this goes on for days instead of people trying to actually talk to each other and get why they hate each other + the fact how much CCs are reactive to their chats and go along with them (to the point where some chatters to just become parasocial and think they know these people just from watching them) At the end of the day, most of this "Drama" is people taking preconceived notions (a lot of which seem to stem from miscommunication between people) and their viewers opinions as proof for stuff And you would think, after multiple similar dramas in the last couple of years (not just in genshin community) people would have learned about proofs and communication. Again, thx Mtash for being an adult in this middle school
There’s something you need to know and remember, when CC got blacklisted by a billion dollar company, you should look what actually happened. For Mtashed case, he always states that Genshin needs endgame content more. Hoyo didn’t even listen to the complaint & suggestion from their players, especially Genshin CC. Until the day Mtashed decided to start his villain era and talk shitty things abt the game, Hoyo slowly starts to pay attention to him. Mtashed saw the CC Program posted by Hoyo, try to participate but later then got banned from the discord server. (I laughed so hard when I saw his videos 😂) Mtashed actually a good CC for Genshin Impact. But Hoyo just care abt their games reputation. Hoyo dgaf about the complaints nor their players.
@@theturtle8869pretty much. And he has a major boner crush on Brax but Atsu is already married, so he had to keep Brax at arm’s length so Atsu wouldn’t fall for him further.
@@vizer4904 Something to put on when you want to fall to sleep quickly. Who needs soothing music or sounds when you can just attempt to do the Aranara quest?
I am so glad that the majority of players in Genshin and Star Rail don't get online and get bombarded with this type of stuff. It makes me happy to know there and thousands of people are out there just enjoying the game. Anyway, good video!
@@Karan_0PZy0x made a meme tweet about the duality of Doro and Tectone, both of them got hate because of it and after videos being made, it kinda spiraled to where it is now
All this just because: Genshin Rewards are Mid > We get 3 Wishes > Zyox Makes Legendary Meme (Oppenheimer of Genshin) > Genshin PVP Drama Endgame Content > 3 years of Drama unfolds > We still get 3 wishes after 💀💀💀
The rewards actually have nothing to do with this. Tectone has been pushing this for months now. I made him implode by pointing out that Genshin gives it's free pulls out through having much larger maps and more chests he pretended not to be phased by this revelation but he's also stated that he's done with Genshin and has moved onto HSR and ZZZ several times but here we are. That made him lose it because he realized Genshin actually is doing better than HSR and ZZZ looks boring too. I think he might have been able to cope better if he still thought Genshin was as bad as it was in the Inazuma arc. But I incidentally brought reality in on him by simply pointing out that he was wrong in all his takes about Genshin the game despite being right about how the community was bad.
@@somersault1123 i mean the game itself isnt bad, even now they've added a few more QOL changes to it, but yeah (they still can add more rewards, them chests aint enough), tectone does tend to contradict himself alot. Regardless, this drama is getting outta hand fr
i think the biggest things Atsu was accused of was being a massive asshole to a LOT of people in the space and going out of his way to leave them out (as confirmed by astu’s friends) and when this is the case, the purely legal approach mtashed is using should take more into account the importance of individual testimony. Both sides agree that atsu was very toxic to many people without prompting, and I think this is the core of the issue
Wall of text incoming sorry. That is very true, however it does not change the fact that the core is some immature kinder garden clique toxicity. The approach mr. nomostasch took is one of level headedness because instead of getting dragged in and taking sides he was trying to find something worth taking sides for. He found none, because as it stands there is none. After all that has been said and written it is all just some immature fighting and there is no other resolution to it at this point other than what he said himself. They can't play nice together so at this point they should just stop interacting. Everyone is acting dumb and have done some dumb shit, so now it's really just up to what we individuals value from the people we watch and then to make a decision based on that. Cuz there is no right or wrong answer here, and while Atsus toxicity is very bad behaviour it's not that deep (literally it seems to me that it's pure ego and being very judgemental and it is something most people will grow from and become better persons) and hopefully he'll take a look at himself and how he's acted to Brax as an example, learn from it and grow from it. As again, this is literally something you'd find happening on the school playground and many will probably need some months or a year to put this behind them and gain a new perspective and when they look back they will see how pointless, stupid and immature all of this is. Because it's clear that it is pent up frustration that has boiled over at this point, and that has created this narrative from everyone feeling hurt and frustrated by the other parties that paints the other parties in a bad light.
@@ChaosMCGaming downplaying tactics, if you're a kid talking behind someone's back, stopping people from making friends with them, that's childish drama BUT if you're both adults, doing the same thing and potentially causing the loss of livelihood of someone's else, that's not school yard drama, that's slander, a literal crime. similar actions, possibly different intents, different subjects, different setting and vastly different severity of ill doings.
@@calussy8040It’s probably defamation that is most likely the crime OP is referring to. Even though, it’s not considered a crime in most states and it’s mainly a “tort.”
4:08 Mtashed brings up a VERY important point, Atsu going up to Hoyo about Brax contract has no excuse or good explanation and might have broke confidentiality clauses
@@apexdude105 brax broke it by asking atsu for advice on the contract and then atsu asked hoyoverse about the contract showing that brax broke it which means no matter if atsu asked to help him out or get him sewered it ruined his chances at a contract either way.
brax going on to people he barely knows and talking about someone sexual allegations which were never proven i think is worse, that straight made atsu stop talking to that VA, how much brax going all over the place with his loose mouth affect him? i see no one talking about that, is weird that the second time you meet someone he dumps that stuff about other people, the allegations never came true, how do you know if people involved with him didnt blacklist brax
@@CzDelta92 atsu stop talking with that VA *because* he after confirmed the rumor with other VAs... apparently more ppl knew about it. if anything brax helped him, even if he didnt see it like that at 1st
The biggest takeaway there's another Genshin VA predator that hasn't been outed yet. It's not Tignari, but Brax & Atsu know who it is. Only a matter of time before someone spills that tea.
this is honestly the most important thing to come out of this drama ... and the fact that this va hasnt been outed yet is rly weird to me, like are they trying to protect them ?? if they're a predator then why aren't they warning us ? doesnt make sense
@@lol-ot7ngtbh brax being vague about this makes sense, since he's only an outsider and doesn't have sufficient evidence. atsu admitting to this happening basically sealed the deal
I don't know if Mtashed missed it, but when Asmon interrogated him, Atsu had to admit that he warned Hoyoverse staff about Braxophone and that he gave them lists of content creators to hire for events which obviously excluded him.
Some people already said it but im gonna say it again. The main point of Brax is not the contracts or money or ladder climbing. Its about getting ostracized of the CC space without a proper justification or reason and that leading to burning bridges that he didnt even knew existed. Atsu, imo, until now didnt give ANY reason to do this to Brax besides tweets he saw after the first encounter they had. So until now Brax doesnt know what he did wrong and Atsu its just focusing on the contracts because Tectone talks about it when its not the main point of Brax's text. This drama its escalating each day and more and more people are getting involved and its going to get worst. What 3 wishes can cause right?
I think it's all overblown tbh, Atsu seems like a bit of a dick, but if he's doesn't like the guy, he doesn't have to be friends with him, and he can avoid him all he wants. He doesn't need to give an explanation either. Same with Brax, he seems very odd and like he has a bit of a victim mentality. He might just be socially awkward, but he seemed to hyper fixate on this Atsu relationship from the beginning instead of just letting it go, which made Atsu double down and the whole situation even worse. Much like others have said, I think it's just playground behaviour, and yet another example of how streamers are often just overgrown children and not people to necessarily look up to.
I don't think Brax is fixated on building relationship with Atsu. It's just that he is trying to reach out to him to clarify some of the things he is experiencing (being left out probably because of Atsu) and hearing from some of his CC friends that Atsu invited most if not all CC creators and not including him. Atsu doesn't have to be friends with him but at least he should be professional about it. Talking about someone in the same space will impact how other's will view someone especially since Atsu have some kind of influence over contracts with Hoyo (not sure if its true). Who wouldn't want to get good graces from someone like that when it can influence your livelihood.
That is very valid but bringing in the allegations of gatekeeping and supposedly stopping professional contracts from being made is cause for slander/defamation since it is no longer about personal interrelationships but professional relationships. Honestly, if Atsu really wasnt pulling the strings like the allegations are being made. He could very well sue for defamation on all of this.
@@Oreo1717 the claim isn't that though, the claim is that he is gatekeeping who gets to be part of his circle, which is what many people have said he does. his friends admitted that Atsu told them not to trust Brax. He even wanted Tectone about him. He went out of his way to ruin the guys reputation because he had a personal dislike for someone that was baseless. His circle is the main Genshin one, which means if you are not in with him, you don't get to attend events, you can't really network in the community because atsu tells everyone you are bad news. That's the stuff he does and this is just some of the verified thigs he did do.
@@GLUFSAREN Brax clearly said Atsu allegedly manipulated Hoyo sponsored events and events. That there is what I was saying, those are contractual deals. Whether or not Atsu truly badmouthed Brax to his said circle is unknown. Except some "he said, she said" floating about. Dish's statement only mentioned the very 1 time Atsu said he didnt trust Brax in the car. Tuonto's statement was paraphrased by Brax so I am not sure how much that counts. Atsu and Tectone are not even on good terms, so I dont know why he would warn Tectone about it.
I was sure about how he get emotionons and then manipulate his audience with being sacrastic to them that bears a weight in his character. @@Krunoxlvr
Dude is unhinged an not there mentally. It's crazy how easy asmond was able to point that out. You shouldn't be having a breakdown an start crying an screaming over getting one guy'd. The worst part is if anyone did to him what he did to tectone with fishy he'd have a fucking heart attack.
Literally your reactions where so nice to listen to, someone who has the emotional maturity to look at everthing from a bigger perspective, to be able to hold empathy for all parties, acknowledging the wrong-doings but also reminding that nobody is good or bad. It's really good to hear a voice like that on the internet. We see a lot of dividing and we don't really see a lot of effort to understand and make a sense out of things that can get so out of hand. But it is draining and exhausting, if you decide to make some more content like that about events Im sure people will listen, I know I will. You have a lot of empathy but remember that you are not responsible for any of this and you don't have to do it. So don't force yourself bc it can easly lead to burnout. That being said, I do think that if you want to do this you can do a lot of good bringing a perspective that is so opposite to how twitter opperates. Trying to understand, validate and find a place for accountability, instead of divide and ostracize
tectone went after some cc brother to dunk on someone before, despite knowing the brother had nothing to do with it and has problems, yeah he is a pos too and deserve many of this things, he himself verbally abuse his wife on stream before multiple times and pretend is all jokes
In these dramas, no one wins. We know Tectone has a history of ego and gaslighting, we know Envi is willing to deal a low blow for people to side with him. Toxic and meaningless.
@@StranglerSixego sure, but he does not gaslight, people need to learn what that word means and stop overusing it. Gonna lose it's meaning like all the other buzzwords people use these days.
When genshin doesn’t provide end game content leave it to like 75% of genshin ccs to do it themselves I don’t know what I caused in the replies I was just making a silly little joke comment lol
Like 5% of the Genshin community even cares about this. This is verifiably HSR community drama. 100% of the HSR community cares because they have nothing to do until 2.0 drops and they know that that'll last for an hour if they're lucky so the only thing they'll ever have is Genshin envy. How do I know my numbers are correct? Official Genshin influencers have incredibly small audiences despite the game's actual player base being massive. How do I know HSR players are bored and out of content? Because the only thing they've been able to do for the past 3 months is whine about Genshin non-stop then call me 'toxic' when I throw a bit of light banter back their way.
@@IzanamisBurden you really think the majority cares?? imagine being that delusional..of course NA server players are always full of themselves as usual
@@somersault1123 HSR community? the whole thing wasnt even related to the game and most of the CC on the situation are from genshin impact ones.Don't yap
@somersault1123 HoW is this exclusively HSR drama when half of the people involved don't even do HSR content? Also, the whole thing started from the 3 wishes in Genshin, spiraled out of control because of Zy0x, who mainly does Genshin, and unearthed past dramas that all took place within -- you guessed it, Genshin. Major HSR content creators like Smack, Pokke and Guoba pretty much eating popcorns on the sidelines while the Genshin ones have a war over on Twitter, and you stoll call this HSR drama?
A young girl was sexually assaulted in an event hosted by Hoyo but was threatened not to say anything publicly or they would lose their contracts/livelihood. What a way to cover up a despicable crime against women and pretty sure it would happen again as that sexual predator/rapist is still working for Hoyo with a contract.
Atsu was respecting the victim's decision. Yes, not every SA victim wants it to be public. It hurts for them, all they want is to heal from it and learn to be able to live a normal life again. Until the victim is ready to share what happened, no one can/should force them to share their SA story cause that just fk up. I understand brax wanted to bring justice to things and all but he needs to respect other people's decisions.
@@angie_line4344 honestly you should out the guy if you were there and saw it happen. Protecting a guy like that just because the girl doesn't want it to be known just lets him do it again. It doesn't help. If one of the girls who were abused by Harvey or That doctor nassar exposed him early, think about how many less victims there would have been. I think it's incredibly selfish to hold that in. No one is claiming it's easy to come out and do that. Doesn't change the fact that every victim after you is partly your fault. 99% still the guy who did the crimes fault, but you can't say they do not have blood on their hands as well. It's the same concept as corrupt cops/judges/politicians are responsible for every crime the person they let slide commits. It's very harsh to say, but this whole protecting the victims thing does not help. Never has, never will and until we normalize going to the cops the same day it happens and parents maybe talking to their kids more so they know they can talk with them if something happens and obviously cops need to actually help and not ask stupid questions like what were you wearing.
That has nothing to do with Braxophone, its just a reason Atsu came up with after to justify his toxic treatment of Braxophone@@angie_line4344 Don't portray Atsu as a hero for protecting the privacy of SA victims, that's absolutely insane
Mtashed and asmongold really did well for braxophone, they helped him clear up any confusions. And at the end of the day, atsu is just an asshole with alot of power in the genshin space
@@eyelasg yep, and also sekapoko coming out and saying it's been like that for him as well. Everyone's coming out of the woodwork to support brax and share how Atsu was a bully to them as well
@@omensoffate if people who don't know each other both say the same thing, it's probably not a lie they both made up to help each other. Nobodys saying Atsu is whispering in Hoyos ears telling them what's up, but he still has influence over them
@@chrispyy99 The other content creators that talked about atsu were only saying stuff like "atsu doesn't like me he blocked me". Brax's experience is way different from them. For example some of those people were posting leaks etc.
I watched the three hour video, the sus thing to me was how often Atsu was mixing stuff up/backtracking and saying things along the linesof "wait wait no, ummmm, no wait, actually..." almost as if he was trying to keep lies straight
This drama is the very reason why I believe in “I’ll believe it when I see it”. Nearly 90% of the drama were from lack of evidence and people blindly believing in something someone else said without questioning it, and eventually escalates into a very personal attack that basically ruined dozens of people’s livelihoods.
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
@@marta-201 asking Twitter to make sense is a lost cause. They still think Atsu got cooked by Asmon, who agreed there's no evidence backing up any accusation throwing towards Atsu.
what there IS proof of is that atsu is just kind of a jerk. i read his tweet about the situation, and the way he views it is just kind of self-centered. even if he was at first, it's pretty obvious braxophone isn't trying to befriend him this point. attempting to communicate for some reason or another does not equate to attempting to become friends. despite this, atsu acts as if brax is some stalker or something (he literally used that language). even if brax really was weird or awkward in their initial interactions, that doesn't mean atsu has the right to shit-talk him behind his back and completely deny any opportunity to communicate like adults to clear up the situation.
This is one of the main things at this point. Brax's whole entire original document was ultimately posing the question "Why? Can you give me an answer why it so strongly seems as though I've been blacklisted/ostracized from this genshin community?" And all of Atsu's responses boiled down to deflecting, calling Brax a ladder climber, and saying all he cares about are numbers and still trying to be friends with him. Not to mention the way he spun Brax's apology to the vtuber, that shit was weird as hell
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
Yeah it was almost like a comedy sketch "hey sorry for posting that pictute, i immediately deleted it when you told me, at least Tuonto's audience and yours doesn't overlap that much so maybe not many will see it, sorry" (i paraphrased) Atsu: "HE ONLY CARES ABOUT VIEWS, LADDER CLIMBING, CONTENT, ITS DISGUNTING AND CREEPY AND A STALKER BEHAVIOR, WHAT ITS WRONG WITH YOU?? "
I still don't understand why atsu will tell others to not trust brax and atsu won't even explain why atsu hates brax.....keeping it a secret makes him suspicious enough for me
@@DiegoSanchez12 all of the reasons he gave aside from maybe the va interacttion were pretty tame and it as kinda crazy to not trust someone over just that u can even see it when he explains it to asmond and mtashed that they also think its a stretch to mistrust someone over that
21:24 I 100% agree with this part, would be great to see more of this style of content but more positive rather than negative. Drama can be enjoyable to watch sometimes, but it just hurts when there's so many people whose livelihoods are on the line.
I think that we can quite safely say 2 things: (1) This drama showed how no content creator is a saint (2) Everyone needs to think with its own head and take actions for themself without waiting for some influencer to give some sort of start signal
youre talking about how it is currently. back when he was doing genshin, brax wasn't as big. its star rail's CC community that helped brax grow quite a bit, along with many others
@@therapist2852 brax doing better in hsr may have made atsu salty enough to want to not welcome him into "his" genshin community because he sees him as a threat
At the end of it all, everyone involved in this is winning. People are making multiple hour+ long vids out of this drama, that's free content for days. Tashed is right tho, no one is perfect in this story. P.S: Tectone makes some funny content which I enjoy, but you'd have to be blind and deaf to not notice he's stil extremely narcissistic. There are even some moments on the Gachacast when you can see other CCs get uncomfortable as he tries to make them say how he is right or how great he is.
Not necessarily. All of this will just lead to more hate comments, less collabs, and higher community distrust among both cc's and the community. Views aren't worth it
@@racool911 who cares? money come , whiteknight defending each own CC , revenue++ , and spotlight everywhere. people who dont know will curious and checking video > ads> revenue.
hell on asmon stream he asked him proof which he deflect and went with "chat do we have any proof?" "he implied things not really said them" then brax with "oh well maybe he aint that bad is just a misunderstanding" literally after dunking on him on multiple videos calling him a pos, every proof asmon asked for was a "well i think he did this" source?: "trust me bro", i dont even know atsu but their arguments were dumb, also brax going all over the place talking about sexual allegations of someone is even worse than what they are accusing atsu, how did that affect the VA? we know atsu for sure stopped talking with him and those allegations came to nothing
Love how Mtashed looks at it from multiple perspectives and attempts to be objective. We really need more of that in this community and in such situations. Much love ❤️
I really appreciated your kindness and empathy for all involved, but that you also weren't afraid to call out inconsistencies. You've always been my favorite Genshin, and now Honkai Star Rail creator and likely always will be. Thanks for being you, Mtashed. The Dad we all need for real lmao
Out of all the content creators in this mess, I take my hat off to you for being the most rational one here. I agree, it seems like petty high school drama. I have muted so many vids over this topic since it is unproductive and also accelerated the community's anmesia over the genshin rewards drama.
Basically, yes, even though Genshin impact is free and is not a full pay to play experience People will still complain that they don’t get 50 to 100 free, intertwined, fates and act like little babies like waaa waaa If this were a full pay to play experience like for example, that you have to pay $10 in the App Store to get access to the game then maybe they would give Much more free, intertwine fates premium membership is the key, but Genshin is free, Just because a few useless men argue over some stuff that we shouldn’t even be involved in doesn’t mean that this is Genshin endgame, because it isn’t any of our business, they should’ve kept this private we shouldn’t be caring about this we have much more important things to care about not some useless drama between creators
@@zaboono They should literally be keeping this private not showing everybody on the TH-cam platform just how childish they are with this Genshin drama
hate is a rlly strong word. he just didnt like him, he got the wrong impression and tried his best (and maybe to a fault) to stay away from brax but brax didnt understand and was generally just trying to be friendly which didnt come across the way he wanted to to atsu (which is fair, atsus reaction not so much)
They make similar content. Rivalry is normal in things like these but going out of your way to sabotage someone from behind the curtains to get the upper hand is just unsportsmanlike
If the community manager is aware that someone dislikes another person, he will refrain from inviting one or both to avoid issues. Since the Atsu is a friend of the manager, everyone he does not accept is automatically excluded, even without explicit communication. The main goal is to prevent drama at the event. The issue is not with the Atsu itself but with the fact that he is friends with the manager, and through their friendship, the manager knows whom to avoid inviting.
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
@@marta-201did u forget multiple creators tweeting that they have had bad experiences with Atsu.some don't even make content anymore so they don't really care about the views or anything
@@faiz8573 True. Mtashed is so careful here and saying there is no proof, being praised for it. But come on... 'testimonies' ARE proofs. And Ratsu basically exposed himself, said a lot of things that showed how messed up he is and that is true what others were saying.
100% understand not wanting to shift into covering drama, it does take a toll. That being said, i love to see your content, although sometimes the guides dont always apply to me - would love to see your take on future items that are less mentally taxing because i enjoy your level headedness but also when your personality is goofy too Thanks for being a bright spot in the community
When you're not so close to it, it doesn't have the same draining effect. This is how the fans of each side can carry on being nothing but entertained by this; they don't really care about their respective champion.
all we saw is just consequences of what already happened and happening behind the scenes. So, sooner or later it would've explode with, or without 3 pulls drama attached to it
I genuinely find this funny especially as a casual player who has a life outside of games. However, I can imagine how horrible it might be to be a fulltime content creator and is tangled in this absolute mess. I'm sure no matter who, everyone are just going to have some dirt on them if this keeps escalate. With that being said, no matter how childish all of this appears to be, it is just a more cinematic version of actual work life. No surprise when you find someone or yourself having "beef" with another coworker, and yes, it might make a scene if not multiple. Shits happen but it does not mean that it should be.
Well we have already got information that genshin is going to get some changes upcoming patches And this whole drama is necessary because it kinda helps getting to know more about genshin cc and stuff but I still feel sad for it’s victims who have not even had anything to do with this matter
cope there wont be any changes. Let me remind you a claim all expedition button wasnt implemented until years later. Ive wanted a skip button for the story for years now.
This was the first time I had ever been so invested and frankly, entertained by online drama Listening to mtashed rn feels like I’m watching a teacher try to mediate an argument between middle schoolers
People really tend to forget about things uh, CCs are not kids, stop trying to act as if there are no serious allegations that could lead to getting someone sued, this is not a junior high lvl drama, there's more darker stuff that people don't realize and we don't even know about.
@@Adan.2005 You’re right, they’re not, but the nature of the drama is as mtashed said, very junior high drama vibes. It’s only worse because they are adults and the problems themselves might be much more serious than typical in an actual middle school setting.
@@Nomfyy Right, and the fact that all of the CCs are airing out each other's dirty laundry for the whole public to witness makes this very much soap opera/dramatic middle school vibes. Honestly, all of them need some type of help, they've all suppressed their anger and pain for a long time and just blasting it on twitter is not making their situations better.
Im so glad you are covering this because I refuse to watch 50 different livestreams Edit: Dude I really think you have missed your calling as a tea channel. You are like the Philip Defranco of the Genshin CC community
Literally all of this could have been resolved with some communication and empathy from all sides. Even Atsu admits how Braxophone feels is fair but his claims are not all true. However, there is no denying that Atsu made it very clear to Braxophone he does not feel comfortable around him. Atsu has a bad impression of him because he started their interaction with "oh did you know this VA is a predator," with no evidence. Personally if someone said that to me, I would avoid them too and you can clearly see Braxophone relies a lot on 'he-said she-said' than actual proof. Yes, Atsu did cut ties with that VA later but we don't know the intricacies of that relationship or when it happened. Understanding boundaries is really important. I also don't believe Atsu goes out of his way to isolate people he dislikes, I think he is simply vocal about the people he dislikes around his friends and that in itself gets misconstrued into manipulation. When Tectone and Atsu fought, I understood both sides. Envy made a personal attack and Tectone has every right to rebuke him but Atsu, being the mediator, knew that Envy is not mentally sane, making him the perfect target for trolls. So if Tectone piles on, it would give those trolls some more leverage to hurt this mentally unstable person. You may argue that Tectone is not responsible for this and from one viewpoint you are right but you can also argue that he does have influence over the situation; Influencers with more view count have more control over the flow of the situation whether it be intentional or unintentional. Honestly speaking, Atsu being the man-in-the-middle just made things worse for himself. Atsu asking MiHoYo about the contract Braxophone received is suspicious but I highly doubt he influenced it. It could have been a snowball effect or it could be that MiHoYo found someone better. And if he did have an influence over it, I honestly would not blame him, I would blame MiHoYo for not telling Atsu to suck it up. At the end of the day, I know Atsu comes off as this slimy, manipulative character which could be true but then again, you can clearly tell he protects the people he cares for and avoids those he does not, and having such a black and white world leads to many, many issues. And for the record, I am an Asmon viewer, I do not know who any of these people even are are except Tectone. This is just a summary of my perspective of what I heard from the stream.
What i still don't understand is why tectone is celebrating and thinking this proves his innocence? Tectone and atsu both are horrible equally based on current info.
@@Lore_no2020 the PVP first started with people coming out and calling tectone out on his toxic behaviour and how he is attacking other people by sending his followers after them(this is true, I have seen it happen many times), and he even abused his ex wife to the point of divorce and many other awful things like cheating which are not yet 100% confirmed(only 95%) but based on clips and some evidence that his ex wife and the girl he cheated with posted don't seem to be too far-fetched. Now atsu has been exposed to have a huge ego and be toxic just like tectone but people are making it like atsu being toxic proves tectone's innocence.
I still can't forget when Tectone said Atsu needs to watch out for being betrayed by his friends, and then immediately followed it by complaining Atsu put distrust in Tectone's friend. This hurts to watch
So I watched this video. Went and watched all of Asmongold's stream and finally I have some idea of what is going on. It is clear to me that basically tec and Atsu hate each other and are ready and willing to believe the worst about each other. I felt like I was listening to two kids take any shot they could at each other. Mtashed really did hit the nail on the head when he said it's all jr. high drama!
I think people are glossing over the fact that theres some power dynamic going on here. I'll give Atsu the benefit of the doubt that he really didnt "manipulate" his group to alienate/ostracize Brax. But with how things are now, Atsu indirectly confirmed he has connections/contacts within Hoyoverse combined with the fact he kinda established himself as the "leader" of this friend group, if i'm in the shoes of anyone in his group -- I'd hate to be in Atsu's bad side. Bad blood with him means losing livelihood and getting kicked out of the group. So rather than "manipulation", it's more like "pressure", because everyone is indirect. He was really smart about it since everything could be easily denied (for legal purposes). Nevertheless, this is just stupid. I'm more on this Brax guy's side bc this couldve been all avoided had Atsu been civil from the start. Youre obviously not gonna get along with everyone but it doesnt mean you have to go out your way to treat someone like this. Their livelihood is based on Content Creation, there is some "professionalism" I expect to be in there but apparently theyre all adults who's stuck on some high school mentality.
Because it’s true. I stopped following GTA rp on Twitch because I got sick of grown adults making a big deal out of little remarks while they are making bank playing fucking video games.
@@Zero_Li24don't be stupid, i mean it's not our lives so we could just ignore it, they will do whatever they have to do to clear things, but ignoring the primos?, No my Friend that's a big no.
To be honest the Xianyun patch made bank and none of the complaints landed because all these morons just pushed the narrative as the bald man bad again So annoying I just want this game to be fixed
Genshin already had sexual predator voice actors in the past going after 13 year old girls (we all seen the discord leaks) more are bound to come espically in a game like genshin which fosters that behaviour. Brax telling atsu that a guy he knows has connections to hoyo was nothing more than a hey can you have people maybe check this guy out. Why are we debating brax being "weird" for calling out sexual predator voice actors? Oh right because it's genshin and the playerbase is full of people who say "nahida is 500 years old" gee wonder why people defend criminals like that. Seriously anyone who even tries to defend atsu or envy or any of them get your head checked out.
Man after watching everything, I really gotta say that this entire drama has been very juicy to watch and I'm glad I'm not in the Genshin community. It's hard to believe that all this started from the 3 year 3 pull meme. It was suppose to be Genshin community vs Hoyo but it somehow turned into Genshin CC civil war.
I couldnt agree more. And by the end of the day, the real issue for genshin to fix their feedback system is ended up brushed under the rug because this petty drama blows up.
I dont know when that photo with saki was taken, but as someone who has been in the vtuber community for awhile I would say even if she did say im a vtuber the majority of years ago did not know and some still dont know the ediquette around vtubers unless they are in the vtuber fandom so it should have been itterated to him not to post it because normal youtubers and streamer especially a few years back did not know how to interact with people in that niche cause of how new it was to westerners.
The only winner out of this drama is Mihoyo, no one is really talking about Genshin issues anymore. And CCs are so divided and occupied to roast each other, that people don't listen to them anymore. Things seemed off on both side and got huge snowball effect. Thanks Daddy Mustashed to keep your concerns as neutral as possible.
Yeah there were things that were weird and some got completely looked over. First thing, the view botting by hoyoverse that was happening, which basically proves that atleast alot of allegations regarding them view botting being real. Second, this might support the argument that the data regarding xianyun and nahida banner being false. Third, there is proven news that mihoyo has one of the worst customer supports and are ordered to improve that which was not covered at all by anyone but maybe one person.
usual tectone L. Maybe if he didn't start taking jabs and calling in the CC that didn't join his crusade all of this woudn't have happened, because guess what? That group of people didn't give a rat's ass about tectone for a solid 3 years, aka, since tectone stirred up another drama out of thin air.
As a dad myself I can completely relate to you and completely understand your take on all of this. Why can't we all just get along at least and stop all the infighting and just talk? At this point it has just turned into a kindergarden where the kids are throwing sand at each other it's just turned into such a giant mess. After watching video after video of this it's nice to come to a person who is looking at all of this as subjectively as possible and just try to figure out what is going on and have people talk about these things in private instead of it being a slander cause this does NOT involve the entire community. Not anymore after some of the things that has been said and written. It is definitely hurting so many more people than just those that are being tagged and talked about I.E. Tectone, Atsu, Braxophone and even Envy for that matter. My heart definitely goes out to all of the people that has been on the side of this and hurt as "collateral damage".
I mean, there wasn’t really an opportunity for this to be a private. Atsu refused to have any communication with Brax. Brax tried, but Atsu literally had him blocked on everything. And I would argue that it is the business of the community if a CC you support, give money and a platform to, is actually a bully and generally just not nice to other people in the same community you are a part of.
It is easy to say "why dont we just get along and solve it in private" when it doesnt happen to u..just try to put urself in brax shoes..he did went private first with atsu, but still didnt get why atsu hate him so much as to damage his image and affect his livelihood..What else could brax do?
@@magoomania6278 curl up and cry i dunno, i don't get the kind of privilege in high school to bitch online. so i dunno if id do it if had the option to
Definitely Tectone & Atsu & Dreamy will forever hate each other. From what Tectone says - Atsu & Dreamy are one of the factors to his marriage leading to divorce. Just that alone makes it reasonable for Tectone to never forgive those two.
I hate when ppl call it High-school drama when it can mess with ones ability to make money and livelihood. Is not High-school drama, is someone speaking up after being blacklisted for no reason apart from one individual taking bad.
@@racool911 when you bad mouth someone in school, it's kid's drama but when you badmouth someone in a work setting that could lead to one's loss of livelihood, that's slander, same actions, different settings, different levels of severity.
WRONG! Adult content creators and an immature guy who refuses to resolve things privately so they had to settle it publicly. I'm talking about Atsu by the way just in case someone mistakes it again for Tectone.
As a new subscriber I would love to see more videos from you that are commentary based videos that aren't drama related. I would love to see you cover topics you're interested in and discuss them. I enjoy videos where you unpack ideas and concepts you're interested in. I'm looking forward to seeing more from you Mtashed and I hope you come out of this situation okay!
The different between Atsu dunking on you and Tectone dunking on you is that if the allegations are true, Atsu dunking CAN affect your ability to form a professional relationships with Hoyoverse.
Hoyoverse should drop Atsu after seeing this shit if they had any sense otherwise they're showing blatant favourtism as if we didn't know they had that already.
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
i think people give too much credit to atsu. its like he is some god at hoyoverse or something. hoyoverse is an entity of their own. like hell they care about some rando on the internet.
@@Doflaminguard Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
Was there live, I literally quit genshin and never watched HSR vids apart from Mr Tashed. Felt like I was living under a rock before his recent new vids. I find this junior high level drama very pathetic and people should learn to grow up.
Drama and hate is bad, but trying to bring horrible behaviour to light is not. This situation is a bit blurry and needs more facts, but exposing people is good if it is concrete and righteous. One example is MrPokke with Dreamy.
I don’t think an alleged complaint of seggsual assault at a cc party, a snake bullying and silencing multiple people with lies is “highschool level drama”
I was pretty on the fence about this whole thing but the 2 things that really convinced me were the: - texts putting Braxaphone into a Catch-22, and - Atsu lying about Tectone essentially forcing him to post shared texts involving his sexual assault as a child to prove otherwise. The Brax texts are included in his post and apparently Atsu admitted he lied regarding the original Tectone situation (though admittedly I haven’t looked into this). You don’t put people in these kinds of situations by accident so it’d be hard to convince me that Atsu wasn’t being malicious to some degree.
Some people saying “it’s just silly drama” when if it’s true it’s livelihoods on the line Also, someone being a meanie on the internet thus pulling a self diagnosis of ptsd is mental, but then again, so is pulling up a divorce like that; which goes to show the amount of fans lost overnight
It's easy to see why Atsu doesn't like Brax. It really boils down to two things. 1) He's male. 2) He's white. He doesn't act the way he does towards any females or other asians the way he does Brax.
The conflict of interest with Hoyo's community team and Atsu is a significant problem. Doesn't matter if power was abused or not, the fact that it could give the appearance is detrimental enough. This is why contractors and the government have a ton of rules and training on this exact topic, because history proves how problematic this can be. On a side note, as an outsider, the more I listen to Atsu talk, and comparing his Twitter response to his vocal response makes me distrust anything he has to say, and it's frustrating that there's not concrete proof to back up other statements on him.
I think one fact that most people are getting wrong. Brax never talked about contracts or hoyo opportunities as a point those were just conjunctions. The main point always was , "why am I ostracized by the community where everyone preemptively assumes I'm a horrible guy when I don't even know what I did wrong". He wanted to know why atsu hated him so much that he potentially blocked his carrer and potential friendships. He just wanted to know what warranted this much hate towards him which to this instance Atsu has never clarified just a lot of deflection and just talking onto brax's points never providing his story
I agree. I feel like Mtashed and Asmon were focusing so much on the blacklisting/having influence with hoyo, when that really wasn’t Brax’s main point, but now that is what everyone is caught on and saying neither sides can be proven when it actually can be proven by the multiple people who have shared their experiences that Atsu is a bully and just generally not very nice to other people in the community.
Yeah and somehow ppl were just slowly redirected to Atsu having direct power over HYV. I think it should have been about going into Atsu's reasoning into doing these horrible things like forcing Tectone to share his stories, doing nothing when Goose was getting death threats, going out of his way to warn ppl, even Tectone about Brax. Asmon was introduced about the drama regarding Brax only, so he went into just that as logically as possible, proving Atsu's potential reasonings, but that doesnt take into account Atsu being a snake and manipulative tho :(
If thats all it is, thats a personal matter and doesn't belong in a twitlonger and isn't a big enough deal to bring in front of Asmongold, that is why they talked about this Hoyo influence with him because that is potentially criminal. We know Atsu got bad vibes from Brax, told his friends this and stayed away from Brax after, and he can do that. Anything else is inferences, rumors, he said she said.
@@KaleidoAbridged the point still stand brax had no connection with atsu to clarify it. Both have confirmed it. Then brax let it go built his brand himself and now is doing better than atsu. He released his statements because Atsu just like with Goose situation decides to subtweet Brax. He also admits he was talking about Brax for no fucking reason again. Warning the worst CC in genshin's history that he needs to be aware of Brax who still doesn't know what he did wrong that the guy who doesn't bat an eye with Tectone decides to warm him. Atsu himself admits that he didn't know if brax was behind teccy's claims but he still said it just like when he shit talked goose 3 yrs ago with no fucking proof and admits to it there are clips everywhere do your fucking research. If someone tried to fuck my life over something I never knew why I sure be pissed as well so yeah I'd also publicly drop everything when he publicly (in the sub tweet) clearly says stay away from the guide maker and who's the famous guidemaker who appears on tectone's collabs. Fucking Brax
I can talk sh*t about mtashed and his genshin contents. But props to him for condensing these “dramas” in the clearest way possible (or at least, through his lense)
The closest to anything was Atsu asking the company about the contract, which is really suspicious on why he would do that in the first place as the advice he was asked had nothing to do with asking the company directly.
Tectone used it as pretense to air out his badblood with other Genshin CCs. Atsu fired back which opened the floodgates. That's kind of the sad thing and why it confuses me that people are rushing to treat Tectone as the champion of the people. He really isn't. He's pissed (some understandably, some petty) over badblood that's been festering for the past few years and that's what all the BS has mutated into. And what really sucks is the amount of people completely unrelated to all of this like Doro originally and later Tenha who got dragged into it all.
Today was definitely crazy... Tbh imo. ..Atsu could have kept his Snake status hidden if his tweet where he started off defending Doro(pretty sure Doro, idk) and Tectone had stopped right then and there but NOPE.. he had 2 choices, walk away at defending Doro and Tect or War.. The guy chose war by diverging from the original defending point and starts talking madddddd shit lmaoo
@@Nakarasuz They all lose to me. All three look like petty losers to me. Doro and Mtashed the only ones coming out of this with W's in my book. Maybe Asmon too.
I do find it a little bit ironic that Brax's comment about the VA is essentially the same scenario that happened to him with Atsu--whether or not it was warranted. He heard it from someone else and then repeated it as a warning without actually knowing the person. That's very similar to what happened to him. Am I the only one that sees the irony in that?
I don't see where its similar. At least if we considere that Brax assumption are right. Brax repeated something said to him (that he probably think it was a good idea to tell to "protect" Atsu or inform him at least of the risk), on the other end Atsu spread an idea that he himself concocted, to almost anyone around him, nothing lead to think other people spread anything about Brax after Atsu started. In fact most of the others that we know where part of the groupe didn't understand or follow the same idea but just didn't give a shit about it. There is a big difference on the intention, scale and result.
@@prisciliafloraNop it's the same thing. He slandered the VA without knowing him as an opening topic and so did atsu with someone else, your explanation is just u supposing things on your own when it might even be the opposite. Clearly u have taken side😂😂
Brax's is "I heard this voice actor is really sus, but careful about him dude" Atsu's is "That guy is untrustworthy and I DO NOT want you to bring him to any event I attend, I hate him" to the point where everyone was given the idea that Brax was bad without even second guessing it.
@@LuckyUnlucky2 It seems like it went the other way as well: Brax complaining about Atsu to everyone who will listen. Only difference is Atsu is more influential so had more impact? I don't think there are any innocents in this dumb HS drama.
@@icekyuu did brax complained to someone about atsu? The only thing i saw was brax asking tuonto if he had done something wrong or why was he ostracized, i don't know if he ever warned others about atsu
The evidences and testimonies against atsu are damning. I dont even watch Tectone nor Mtashed but all shits are pointing to Atsu. And tbf , if its true then its horrible what he did to Brax. Atsu not having any good counter arguments and his friends not even defending him with counter proofs make me think that he really is what the allegations say.
Atsu will never admit to anything, even if he has done it. he never denied everything strongly and that is SUS enough. he was always evasive and deflective with his answers. never in strong denial.
*“Maybe the real Genshin endgame is the CC drama we made along the way”*
I know
This is the end game content
I personally still enjoy genshin though as I got a lot to do still even with being technically closer to the end. I’m just not going to spend this patch as I want to try and have hoyo listen to the actual reasonable criticisms even though the banner already has made a lot of money
@@Blu3M00NS your kicking a cemented wall expecting it to break, but it's reinforced by kryptonium so it ain't breaking. just go with the flow man, criticism for hoyoverse is almost non existent and if it does not give them money, they aren't changing their policies business practices
lmao true
What a lack of Genshin endgame does to a community:
Lmfao 🤣
im not genshin cc but it's just like elementary school kids fighting. Narcissistic vs socially awkward person
ODO?!?!
Odo kentang here really???
ayoooo
Totally agree. I am with mtashed on this one. No one has full proof evidence and it really is a he said he said situation and people who more closely follow one or the other is who is gonna be believed more. Both are being called manipulative by each other and both have multiple CCs against yhem including weird ones like Doro against Atsu and Zajef against Tectone.
its someone's livelyhood and not some school drama
This C0 Drama is INSANE! Genshin Impact v4.4
Great job keeping it level headed and moderating Mtashed. I watched the whole thing live and can't believe this whole thing blew up all the way to Asmongold.
Maybe the real impact was the genshin CC we met along the way.
Seeing you following all this is so crazy lol
fr fr
Hey IWTL thank for your content bro!
Genshin PVP update is insane 😂😂
“Reaction type content that isn’t so fostered in negativity”. Thank you, that’s what the world needs. I’d love to see your outlook on more topics. It’s nice that you seem to assume the best in people rather than the worst.
The 3 wishes wasn't for 3 years of playing, but for 3 years of drama 💀
Lmao 🤣
Genshin: Endgame wars.
Season 1 :- players vs Company
Season 2 :- Genshin vs HSR
Season 3 :- CC vs CC
Season 4 :- in production.
To be honest this is more entertaining then their latest movies
disney has been real quite since hoyoverse dropped this for FREE and with 3 fates
cant wait for the movie!
Were missing the side stories and movies to go with the season
@@siliconhawkLMAOOO 3 fates is the cherry on top, we should be grateful ngl
We've seen Genshin planned for the three wishes:
1. CN Community outrage
2. ZyoX starting the Shibuya Arc Incident
3. The Genshin CC Culling Games begin
i missed the starting zyox opening damn. good re-watch that episode
Bro thats spoiler alredy!
4. The liyue incident
What's next ? GENSHIN IMPACT SHOWDOWN?? 😂🤣
( Nah I'd win )&
( I will remember u as long as I live)
I thought the three wishes are Dreamy, Atsu and Envi falling off the Genshin sky?
when the genshin cc drama tea is more interesting than genshin rn
More content than we got since fontaine
Genshin PvP is really 🔥🔥🔥🔥 rn
Still the most earning game right now 😂
The real endgame STARTS NOW!
This content creator drama was needed. Tectone called all of them out and we possibly really found out that Atsu is the reason why people were being blacklisted.
It's crazy how this was about Atsu, Brax, Teccy and all the other CCs that came out and talked about their experience with Atsu... and then suddenly we are seeing the TRUE Enviosity unfold before our eyes.
I still cannot believe it, it's just insane.
They are people after all and do we the viewer really know them? no not really, it's just content.
It's funny that self inserting got himself exposed
i never liked envi thank god he is getting outed as a shitter
It was just Atsu calling out Tectone for harassing creators and then Brax came in out of nowhere.
Nothing wrong with what Envy tweeted. That video has been passed around for a long time and everyone has trouble watching it because it's so awful. And somehow the one sharing it now is the bad guy. Tectone and his fans are delusional.
I'll be honest, as somebody who doesn't really watch Mtash (not my cup of tea) and not following everything in this whole thing, i can't express how much respect i have for him for this. For the fact that he, as far as i know, was the first person to actively try to look at the situation without biases, try to communicate with people and get to the bottom of situation, more so than actual parties involved.
I think it's also kinda telling of the whole community that the only 2 people i've seen to try and do it (at first at least) are Mtash, who isn't really part of the whole drama, and Asmon, who's not even part of the genshin community. This also is a great example of why nobody, including the company who made the game, takes the community seriously, when stuff like this goes on for days instead of people trying to actually talk to each other and get why they hate each other + the fact how much CCs are reactive to their chats and go along with them (to the point where some chatters to just become parasocial and think they know these people just from watching them)
At the end of the day, most of this "Drama" is people taking preconceived notions (a lot of which seem to stem from miscommunication between people) and their viewers opinions as proof for stuff
And you would think, after multiple similar dramas in the last couple of years (not just in genshin community) people would have learned about proofs and communication. Again, thx Mtash for being an adult in this middle school
There’s something you need to know and remember, when CC got blacklisted by a billion dollar company, you should look what actually happened.
For Mtashed case, he always states that Genshin needs endgame content more. Hoyo didn’t even listen to the complaint & suggestion from their players, especially Genshin CC.
Until the day Mtashed decided to start his villain era and talk shitty things abt the game, Hoyo slowly starts to pay attention to him.
Mtashed saw the CC Program posted by Hoyo, try to participate but later then got banned from the discord server. (I laughed so hard when I saw his videos 😂)
Mtashed actually a good CC for Genshin Impact. But Hoyo just care abt their games reputation. Hoyo dgaf about the complaints nor their players.
what no endgame does to a mf
how genshin impacts one's life.
Genshin impacted
what losing every 5050 does to a mf
This is the endgame it was drama all along
Thank you Neon Genesis Evangelion
Let me remind you why this started:
3 wishes on a gacha game as reward.
This is so stupid its hilarious.
Maybe the real genshin endgame was the CC drama we witnessed along the way
its the 3 wishes that started the CN revolt. I do think its oppenzyox and his memehattan project started it.
Nah it didnt start anything. Only revealed it.
The Genshin devs are probably cackling since instead of fighting and protesting them, we’re busy bickering amongst ourselves.
@@Vastawayyeah
Greatest Unsolved Mysteries:
1. Why do we exist?
2. How were the Pyramids of Giza built?
3. Why does Atsu hate Braxaphone so much?
3 is easy to answer. Atsu hates that Brax is funnier and handsome
@@theturtle8869So true and real
@@theturtle8869 and white.
@@theturtle8869pretty much. And he has a major boner crush on Brax but Atsu is already married, so he had to keep Brax at arm’s length so Atsu wouldn’t fall for him further.
Brax is also a white male😢 atsu doesn't like that @@theturtle8869
this drama stream is just as long as Aranara quest but actually not making me fall asleep
At least we get something out of aranara quest 😭😭😭
@@pechiemylike?
@@vizer4904primogems~
@@vizer4904 Something to put on when you want to fall to sleep quickly. Who needs soothing music or sounds when you can just attempt to do the Aranara quest?
The forest will remember ❌
The internet will remember ✅
I am so glad that the majority of players in Genshin and Star Rail don't get online and get bombarded with this type of stuff. It makes me happy to know there and thousands of people are out there just enjoying the game.
Anyway, good video!
My thoughts exactly!
Some might say it's started with Dr Ratio. Some says it's the 3 wish. Deep down we all know it's the Zyox meme post
Link ?
What meme man. I am out of the loop and just returned to this drama unfolding and have no idea how it all started
@@Karan_0PZy0x made a meme tweet about the duality of Doro and Tectone, both of them got hate because of it and after videos being made, it kinda spiraled to where it is now
Zyox is like the colombian flower vase that started the revolution against the spanish empire fr
@@des-ni88rDoro got hated on? He's a chill dude wth.
All this just because: Genshin Rewards are Mid > We get 3 Wishes > Zyox Makes Legendary Meme (Oppenheimer of Genshin) > Genshin PVP Drama Endgame Content > 3 years of Drama unfolds > We still get 3 wishes after 💀💀💀
i will forever thank zyox for this content
Genshinheimer Zyox 💀
The rewards actually have nothing to do with this. Tectone has been pushing this for months now. I made him implode by pointing out that Genshin gives it's free pulls out through having much larger maps and more chests he pretended not to be phased by this revelation but he's also stated that he's done with Genshin and has moved onto HSR and ZZZ several times but here we are. That made him lose it because he realized Genshin actually is doing better than HSR and ZZZ looks boring too. I think he might have been able to cope better if he still thought Genshin was as bad as it was in the Inazuma arc. But I incidentally brought reality in on him by simply pointing out that he was wrong in all his takes about Genshin the game despite being right about how the community was bad.
@@somersault1123the cope here is tangible.
@@somersault1123 i mean the game itself isnt bad, even now they've added a few more QOL changes to it, but yeah (they still can add more rewards, them chests aint enough), tectone does tend to contradict himself alot. Regardless, this drama is getting outta hand fr
i think the biggest things Atsu was accused of was being a massive asshole to a LOT of people in the space and going out of his way to leave them out (as confirmed by astu’s friends) and when this is the case, the purely legal approach mtashed is using should take more into account the importance of individual testimony. Both sides agree that atsu was very toxic to many people without prompting, and I think this is the core of the issue
Wall of text incoming sorry.
That is very true, however it does not change the fact that the core is some immature kinder garden clique toxicity. The approach mr. nomostasch took is one of level headedness because instead of getting dragged in and taking sides he was trying to find something worth taking sides for. He found none, because as it stands there is none.
After all that has been said and written it is all just some immature fighting and there is no other resolution to it at this point other than what he said himself. They can't play nice together so at this point they should just stop interacting. Everyone is acting dumb and have done some dumb shit, so now it's really just up to what we individuals value from the people we watch and then to make a decision based on that. Cuz there is no right or wrong answer here, and while Atsus toxicity is very bad behaviour it's not that deep (literally it seems to me that it's pure ego and being very judgemental and it is something most people will grow from and become better persons) and hopefully he'll take a look at himself and how he's acted to Brax as an example, learn from it and grow from it.
As again, this is literally something you'd find happening on the school playground and many will probably need some months or a year to put this behind them and gain a new perspective and when they look back they will see how pointless, stupid and immature all of this is. Because it's clear that it is pent up frustration that has boiled over at this point, and that has created this narrative from everyone feeling hurt and frustrated by the other parties that paints the other parties in a bad light.
@@ChaosMCGaming downplaying tactics, if you're a kid talking behind someone's back, stopping people from making friends with them, that's childish drama BUT if you're both adults, doing the same thing and potentially causing the loss of livelihood of someone's else, that's not school yard drama, that's slander, a literal crime. similar actions, possibly different intents, different subjects, different setting and vastly different severity of ill doings.
@@f.b.l.9813where tf is the crime, did u watch the vid with an open mind or are you too opinionated
@@calussy8040It’s probably defamation that is most likely the crime OP is referring to. Even though, it’s not considered a crime in most states and it’s mainly a “tort.”
Right, and how many ppl would say Tectone is toxic ? A lot... so like when someone is toxic he usually receives toxic treatment back.
4:08 Mtashed brings up a VERY important point, Atsu going up to Hoyo about Brax contract has no excuse or good explanation and might have broke confidentiality clauses
Who broke confidentiality?
i think this is exactly why this contract w brax failed in the first place (he said the contract didnt go through in the stream yesterday)
@@apexdude105 brax broke it by asking atsu for advice on the contract and then atsu asked hoyoverse about the contract showing that brax broke it which means no matter if atsu asked to help him out or get him sewered it ruined his chances at a contract either way.
brax going on to people he barely knows and talking about someone sexual allegations which were never proven i think is worse, that straight made atsu stop talking to that VA, how much brax going all over the place with his loose mouth affect him? i see no one talking about that, is weird that the second time you meet someone he dumps that stuff about other people, the allegations never came true, how do you know if people involved with him didnt blacklist brax
@@CzDelta92 atsu stop talking with that VA *because* he after confirmed the rumor with other VAs... apparently more ppl knew about it. if anything brax helped him, even if he didnt see it like that at 1st
So this is Genshin Endgame content…
STAR RAIL COULD NEVER.
Star Rail has drama every other week, it gets covered and people still pretend like none of it happened.
"THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING"
this is 5 days in a row now, so sTaR rAIL cOulD NeVEr@@ElainaMaruyama
The drama is just about CCs bragging about being better than the other, not because the game is bad.@@ElainaMaruyama
I am so glad star rail could never at this point lmao
im here for the mtashed reaction arc
Yes keep it up
The biggest takeaway there's another Genshin VA predator that hasn't been outed yet. It's not Tignari, but Brax & Atsu know who it is. Only a matter of time before someone spills that tea.
The fact atsu confirmed this is a VA that existed before tignaris release is interesting as well
this is honestly the most important thing to come out of this drama ... and the fact that this va hasnt been outed yet is rly weird to me, like are they trying to protect them ?? if they're a predator then why aren't they warning us ? doesnt make sense
I wonder who it is
@@UnownDepthplease don't be Itto's
@@lol-ot7ngtbh brax being vague about this makes sense, since he's only an outsider and doesn't have sufficient evidence. atsu admitting to this happening basically sealed the deal
I don't know if Mtashed missed it, but when Asmon interrogated him, Atsu had to admit that he warned Hoyoverse staff about Braxophone and that he gave them lists of content creators to hire for events which obviously excluded him.
Some people already said it but im gonna say it again.
The main point of Brax is not the contracts or money or ladder climbing. Its about getting ostracized of the CC space without a proper justification or reason and that leading to burning bridges that he didnt even knew existed.
Atsu, imo, until now didnt give ANY reason to do this to Brax besides tweets he saw after the first encounter they had.
So until now Brax doesnt know what he did wrong and Atsu its just focusing on the contracts because Tectone talks about it when its not the main point of Brax's text.
This drama its escalating each day and more and more people are getting involved and its going to get worst. What 3 wishes can cause right?
I think it's all overblown tbh, Atsu seems like a bit of a dick, but if he's doesn't like the guy, he doesn't have to be friends with him, and he can avoid him all he wants. He doesn't need to give an explanation either. Same with Brax, he seems very odd and like he has a bit of a victim mentality. He might just be socially awkward, but he seemed to hyper fixate on this Atsu relationship from the beginning instead of just letting it go, which made Atsu double down and the whole situation even worse. Much like others have said, I think it's just playground behaviour, and yet another example of how streamers are often just overgrown children and not people to necessarily look up to.
I don't think Brax is fixated on building relationship with Atsu. It's just that he is trying to reach out to him to clarify some of the things he is experiencing (being left out probably because of Atsu) and hearing from some of his CC friends that Atsu invited most if not all CC creators and not including him. Atsu doesn't have to be friends with him but at least he should be professional about it. Talking about someone in the same space will impact how other's will view someone especially since Atsu have some kind of influence over contracts with Hoyo (not sure if its true). Who wouldn't want to get good graces from someone like that when it can influence your livelihood.
That is very valid but bringing in the allegations of gatekeeping and supposedly stopping professional contracts from being made is cause for slander/defamation since it is no longer about personal interrelationships but professional relationships. Honestly, if Atsu really wasnt pulling the strings like the allegations are being made. He could very well sue for defamation on all of this.
@@Oreo1717 the claim isn't that though, the claim is that he is gatekeeping who gets to be part of his circle, which is what many people have said he does.
his friends admitted that Atsu told them not to trust Brax. He even wanted Tectone about him. He went out of his way to ruin the guys reputation because he had a personal dislike for someone that was baseless.
His circle is the main Genshin one, which means if you are not in with him, you don't get to attend events, you can't really network in the community because atsu tells everyone you are bad news. That's the stuff he does and this is just some of the verified thigs he did do.
@@GLUFSAREN Brax clearly said Atsu allegedly manipulated Hoyo sponsored events and events. That there is what I was saying, those are contractual deals.
Whether or not Atsu truly badmouthed Brax to his said circle is unknown. Except some "he said, she said" floating about. Dish's statement only mentioned the very 1 time Atsu said he didnt trust Brax in the car. Tuonto's statement was paraphrased by Brax so I am not sure how much that counts. Atsu and Tectone are not even on good terms, so I dont know why he would warn Tectone about it.
The 3 pull arc of genshin is wild
it's even longer than the entire archon quest combined
When we getting those three pulls ?
And the only winner was mihoyo 😂
@@JohnWolf926TRUE
Hoyoverse: "You are my special"
The biggest clown from all of this is Envi. What he did was beyond acceptable by any means, he didn't just cross the line but ran a marathon past it.
Yeah Envi is crazy
I was sure about how he get emotionons and then manipulate his audience with being sacrastic to them that bears a weight in his character.
@@Krunoxlvr
Dude is unhinged an not there mentally. It's crazy how easy asmond was able to point that out.
You shouldn't be having a breakdown an start crying an screaming over getting one guy'd.
The worst part is if anyone did to him what he did to tectone with fishy he'd have a fucking heart attack.
@@crowing3886any videos or clips I missed the envy stuff
Could someone tell me what he did in a summary ?
Hoyo: Hey my sweet child, take the bad spotlight on genshin rn.
Asstu: Yes father.
LMAO
Funniest comment
And then Atsu did it to Envi 💀
😂😂
@@Joel-mh8nf lmaaaaao yep, dude really threw someone under the bus to kibda save himself tf. Truely a 🐍
Literally your reactions where so nice to listen to, someone who has the emotional maturity to look at everthing from a bigger perspective, to be able to hold empathy for all parties, acknowledging the wrong-doings but also reminding that nobody is good or bad. It's really good to hear a voice like that on the internet. We see a lot of dividing and we don't really see a lot of effort to understand and make a sense out of things that can get so out of hand. But it is draining and exhausting, if you decide to make some more content like that about events Im sure people will listen, I know I will. You have a lot of empathy but remember that you are not responsible for any of this and you don't have to do it. So don't force yourself bc it can easly lead to burnout. That being said, I do think that if you want to do this you can do a lot of good bringing a perspective that is so opposite to how twitter opperates. Trying to understand, validate and find a place for accountability, instead of divide and ostracize
That part with envi bringing in tectones marriage is really such a low blow.
tectone went after some cc brother to dunk on someone before, despite knowing the brother had nothing to do with it and has problems, yeah he is a pos too and deserve many of this things, he himself verbally abuse his wife on stream before multiple times and pretend is all jokes
Yeah he's strawmanning but Tec also do that a lot as well when he's arguing
In these dramas, no one wins. We know Tectone has a history of ego and gaslighting, we know Envi is willing to deal a low blow for people to side with him. Toxic and meaningless.
@@StranglerSixego sure, but he does not gaslight, people need to learn what that word means and stop overusing it. Gonna lose it's meaning like all the other buzzwords people use these days.
@@GLUFSAREN Years too late for that one friend...
When genshin doesn’t provide end game content leave it to like 75% of genshin ccs to do it themselves
I don’t know what I caused in the replies I was just making a silly little joke comment lol
Like 5% of the Genshin community even cares about this. This is verifiably HSR community drama. 100% of the HSR community cares because they have nothing to do until 2.0 drops and they know that that'll last for an hour if they're lucky so the only thing they'll ever have is Genshin envy.
How do I know my numbers are correct? Official Genshin influencers have incredibly small audiences despite the game's actual player base being massive. How do I know HSR players are bored and out of content? Because the only thing they've been able to do for the past 3 months is whine about Genshin non-stop then call me 'toxic' when I throw a bit of light banter back their way.
@@somersault1123this is insane cope lmao
@@IzanamisBurden you really think the majority cares?? imagine being that delusional..of course NA server players are always full of themselves as usual
@@somersault1123 HSR community? the whole thing wasnt even related to the game and most of the CC on the situation are from genshin impact ones.Don't yap
@somersault1123 HoW is this exclusively HSR drama when half of the people involved don't even do HSR content? Also, the whole thing started from the 3 wishes in Genshin, spiraled out of control because of Zy0x, who mainly does Genshin, and unearthed past dramas that all took place within -- you guessed it, Genshin. Major HSR content creators like Smack, Pokke and Guoba pretty much eating popcorns on the sidelines while the Genshin ones have a war over on Twitter, and you stoll call this HSR drama?
A young girl was sexually assaulted in an event hosted by Hoyo but was threatened not to say anything publicly or they would lose their contracts/livelihood. What a way to cover up a despicable crime against women and pretty sure it would happen again as that sexual predator/rapist is still working for Hoyo with a contract.
Atsu was respecting the victim's decision. Yes, not every SA victim wants it to be public. It hurts for them, all they want is to heal from it and learn to be able to live a normal life again. Until the victim is ready to share what happened, no one can/should force them to share their SA story cause that just fk up. I understand brax wanted to bring justice to things and all but he needs to respect other people's decisions.
@@angie_line4344 honestly you should out the guy if you were there and saw it happen. Protecting a guy like that just because the girl doesn't want it to be known just lets him do it again. It doesn't help.
If one of the girls who were abused by Harvey or That doctor nassar exposed him early, think about how many less victims there would have been.
I think it's incredibly selfish to hold that in. No one is claiming it's easy to come out and do that. Doesn't change the fact that every victim after you is partly your fault.
99% still the guy who did the crimes fault, but you can't say they do not have blood on their hands as well. It's the same concept as corrupt cops/judges/politicians are responsible for every crime the person they let slide commits.
It's very harsh to say, but this whole protecting the victims thing does not help. Never has, never will and until we normalize going to the cops the same day it happens and parents maybe talking to their kids more so they know they can talk with them if something happens and obviously cops need to actually help and not ask stupid questions like what were you wearing.
That has nothing to do with Braxophone, its just a reason Atsu came up with after to justify his toxic treatment of Braxophone@@angie_line4344
Don't portray Atsu as a hero for protecting the privacy of SA victims, that's absolutely insane
Mtashed and asmongold really did well for braxophone, they helped him clear up any confusions. And at the end of the day, atsu is just an asshole with alot of power in the genshin space
Where’s the proof?
@@omensoffateeven after all this, atsu still stayed self centred on his twitter, dish reply is already proof as well no?
@@eyelasg yep, and also sekapoko coming out and saying it's been like that for him as well. Everyone's coming out of the woodwork to support brax and share how Atsu was a bully to them as well
@@omensoffate if people who don't know each other both say the same thing, it's probably not a lie they both made up to help each other. Nobodys saying Atsu is whispering in Hoyos ears telling them what's up, but he still has influence over them
@@chrispyy99 The other content creators that talked about atsu were only saying stuff like "atsu doesn't like me he blocked me". Brax's experience is way different from them. For example some of those people were posting leaks etc.
Bro turned into lawyer because of this drama💀
And asmondgold become the judge😂
I watched the three hour video, the sus thing to me was how often Atsu was mixing stuff up/backtracking and saying things along the linesof "wait wait no, ummmm, no wait, actually..." almost as if he was trying to keep lies straight
This drama is the very reason why I believe in “I’ll believe it when I see it”. Nearly 90% of the drama were from lack of evidence and people blindly believing in something someone else said without questioning it, and eventually escalates into a very personal attack that basically ruined dozens of people’s livelihoods.
Exactly lol tectone crying about revealing personal shit that he himself revealed for no reason whatsoever
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
@@augustusplays7896he revealed dms bc atsu got into a problem with gooseegg and roped him into it. And atsu was also willing to show dms too
@@marta-201 asking Twitter to make sense is a lost cause. They still think Atsu got cooked by Asmon, who agreed there's no evidence backing up any accusation throwing towards Atsu.
Exactly like Mtashed said, high school quarrels.
what there IS proof of is that atsu is just kind of a jerk. i read his tweet about the situation, and the way he views it is just kind of self-centered. even if he was at first, it's pretty obvious braxophone isn't trying to befriend him this point. attempting to communicate for some reason or another does not equate to attempting to become friends. despite this, atsu acts as if brax is some stalker or something (he literally used that language). even if brax really was weird or awkward in their initial interactions, that doesn't mean atsu has the right to shit-talk him behind his back and completely deny any opportunity to communicate like adults to clear up the situation.
This is one of the main things at this point. Brax's whole entire original document was ultimately posing the question "Why? Can you give me an answer why it so strongly seems as though I've been blacklisted/ostracized from this genshin community?" And all of Atsu's responses boiled down to deflecting, calling Brax a ladder climber, and saying all he cares about are numbers and still trying to be friends with him. Not to mention the way he spun Brax's apology to the vtuber, that shit was weird as hell
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
There's more than proof of this
Guy randomly attacked Sekapo for some reason??
@@LUCAS420BLZattacked with a deadly weapon or what?
Yeah it was almost like a comedy sketch
"hey sorry for posting that pictute, i immediately deleted it when you told me, at least Tuonto's audience and yours doesn't overlap that much so maybe not many will see it, sorry" (i paraphrased)
Atsu: "HE ONLY CARES ABOUT VIEWS, LADDER CLIMBING, CONTENT, ITS DISGUNTING AND CREEPY AND A STALKER BEHAVIOR, WHAT ITS WRONG WITH YOU?? "
I still don't understand why atsu will tell others to not trust brax and atsu won't even explain why atsu hates brax.....keeping it a secret makes him suspicious enough for me
I believe atsu had no reason
@@banditdoggo that's even more fked up
He explained in his twitch. But I don’t think most people will watch
@@DiegoSanchez12 all of the reasons he gave aside from maybe the va interacttion were pretty tame and it as kinda crazy to not trust someone over just that u can even see it when he explains it to asmond and mtashed that they also think its a stretch to mistrust someone over that
@@DiegoSanchez12 then why not tell here
21:24 I 100% agree with this part, would be great to see more of this style of content but more positive rather than negative. Drama can be enjoyable to watch sometimes, but it just hurts when there's so many people whose livelihoods are on the line.
I think that we can quite safely say 2 things:
(1) This drama showed how no content creator is a saint
(2) Everyone needs to think with its own head and take actions for themself without waiting for some influencer to give some sort of start signal
The funny thing is Brax’s YT viewership is better than Atsu’s and many other gacha content creators’ viewerships lol
atsu posts low-effort videos anyway. brax’s videos are more well-edited and well-presented and more informative and complete.
Whats fishy is Braxs gen content is the same level as his HSR ones but he seems to be getting held by back on the Gen side of things
@@mischi6evous Yeah, they take no effort at all.
youre talking about how it is currently. back when he was doing genshin, brax wasn't as big. its star rail's CC community that helped brax grow quite a bit, along with many others
@@therapist2852 brax doing better in hsr may have made atsu salty enough to want to not welcome him into "his" genshin community because he sees him as a threat
At the end of it all, everyone involved in this is winning.
People are making multiple hour+ long vids out of this drama, that's free content for days.
Tashed is right tho, no one is perfect in this story.
P.S: Tectone makes some funny content which I enjoy, but you'd have to be blind and deaf to not notice he's stil extremely narcissistic. There are even some moments on the Gachacast when you can see other CCs get uncomfortable as he tries to make them say how he is right or how great he is.
Not necessarily. All of this will just lead to more hate comments, less collabs, and higher community distrust among both cc's and the community. Views aren't worth it
@@racool911 who cares? money come , whiteknight defending each own CC , revenue++ , and spotlight everywhere. people who dont know will curious and checking video > ads> revenue.
Yeah, Tectone is a dick.
But being a dick doesn't justify years of unwarranted hate.
i dont think hes narcissistic but he is very overbearing
hell on asmon stream he asked him proof which he deflect and went with "chat do we have any proof?" "he implied things not really said them" then brax with "oh well maybe he aint that bad is just a misunderstanding" literally after dunking on him on multiple videos calling him a pos, every proof asmon asked for was a "well i think he did this" source?: "trust me bro", i dont even know atsu but their arguments were dumb, also brax going all over the place talking about sexual allegations of someone is even worse than what they are accusing atsu, how did that affect the VA? we know atsu for sure stopped talking with him and those allegations came to nothing
Love how Mtashed looks at it from multiple perspectives and attempts to be objective. We really need more of that in this community and in such situations. Much love ❤️
That's probably exactly why he's blacklisted because he's not a clique loving yes-man. He WILL be fair and call people out, even his friends.
I really appreciated your kindness and empathy for all involved, but that you also weren't afraid to call out inconsistencies. You've always been my favorite Genshin, and now Honkai Star Rail creator and likely always will be. Thanks for being you, Mtashed. The Dad we all need for real lmao
Out of all the content creators in this mess, I take my hat off to you for being the most rational one here. I agree, it seems like petty high school drama. I have muted so many vids over this topic since it is unproductive and also accelerated the community's anmesia over the genshin rewards drama.
This drama just keeps on giving. I swear this shows how childish a bunch of ccs are.
Mhm
I swear this is turning into a high school drama show
and i’m here getting so entertained
🍿🍿🥤🍷🍼🧃☕️🍿🍿
Basically, yes, even though Genshin impact is free and is not a full pay to play experience People will still complain that they don’t get 50 to 100 free, intertwined, fates and act like little babies like waaa waaa If this were a full pay to play experience like for example, that you have to pay $10 in the App Store to get access to the game then maybe they would give Much more free, intertwine fates premium membership is the key, but Genshin is free, Just because a few useless men argue over some stuff that we shouldn’t even be involved in doesn’t mean that this is Genshin endgame, because it isn’t any of our business, they should’ve kept this private we shouldn’t be caring about this we have much more important things to care about not some useless drama between creators
You know it’s a problem when asmon has to be the adult in the situation
@@zaboono They should literally be keeping this private not showing everybody on the TH-cam platform just how childish they are with this Genshin drama
The question that still not answered is, what is the real reason Atsu hates Brax? Because he still very vague about it
There isn't really one, from what could be gathered... Or maybe there is. Brax was too forward. Too eager for Atsu's taste.
hate is a rlly strong word. he just didnt like him, he got the wrong impression and tried his best (and maybe to a fault) to stay away from brax but brax didnt understand and was generally just trying to be friendly which didnt come across the way he wanted to to atsu (which is fair, atsus reaction not so much)
@@lleeum7109 Hate's not a strong word at all when Atsu's going around trying to effectively blacklist Brax and stifle his career.
They make similar content. Rivalry is normal in things like these but going out of your way to sabotage someone from behind the curtains to get the upper hand is just unsportsmanlike
He dosent need to give a reason. He dosent owe Brax shit
If the community manager is aware that someone dislikes another person, he will refrain from inviting one or both to avoid issues. Since the Atsu is a friend of the manager, everyone he does not accept is automatically excluded, even without explicit communication. The main goal is to prevent drama at the event. The issue is not with the Atsu itself but with the fact that he is friends with the manager, and through their friendship, the manager knows whom to avoid inviting.
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
@@marta-201did u forget multiple creators tweeting that they have had bad experiences with Atsu.some don't even make content anymore so they don't really care about the views or anything
That's like saying that a white HR manager will not hire any black employees just because it's possible that he might be racist.
@@marta-201the snake's skin has been shed, there's no putting it back.
@@faiz8573 True. Mtashed is so careful here and saying there is no proof, being praised for it. But come on... 'testimonies' ARE proofs. And Ratsu basically exposed himself, said a lot of things that showed how messed up he is and that is true what others were saying.
Envi coming out with the worst tweet in this drama and triple down in the worst way possible is even funnier than the whole atsu situation
Fr why tf did he even insert his softer than charmin's ass into this whole mess. Got deservingly cooked too lmao
This has got to be the craziest drama to ever happen to any gaming community ngl. It took 3 years of buildup for this climax.
And it all started because of 3 balls
@@Risanggita better yet 3 .png files
Can't believe it all started from a free Dr. Ratio. Watching Pokke was truly an experience, it just kept going and going and going
same
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Respectfully Genuinely Neutral 😐
Pokke stream was peak chaotic neutral
100% understand not wanting to shift into covering drama, it does take a toll.
That being said, i love to see your content, although sometimes the guides dont always apply to me - would love to see your take on future items that are less mentally taxing because i enjoy your level headedness but also when your personality is goofy too
Thanks for being a bright spot in the community
When you're not so close to it, it doesn't have the same draining effect. This is how the fans of each side can carry on being nothing but entertained by this; they don't really care about their respective champion.
Imagine if Hoyo never even said anything about the measly 3 pulls. This would have never happened
all we saw is just consequences of what already happened and happening behind the scenes. So, sooner or later it would've explode with, or without 3 pulls drama attached to it
imagine if genshin didn't exist
@Zentsuuki keep playing genshin lil bro 👶
@lamorak1737 yup you deserve a pat on the back every day for existing
canon event???
I genuinely find this funny especially as a casual player who has a life outside of games. However, I can imagine how horrible it might be to be a fulltime content creator and is tangled in this absolute mess. I'm sure no matter who, everyone are just going to have some dirt on them if this keeps escalate. With that being said, no matter how childish all of this appears to be, it is just a more cinematic version of actual work life. No surprise when you find someone or yourself having "beef" with another coworker, and yes, it might make a scene if not multiple. Shits happen but it does not mean that it should be.
To all cc don't forget to thanks atsu for dropping free content
Well we have already got information that genshin is going to get some changes upcoming patches
And this whole drama is necessary because it kinda helps getting to know more about genshin cc and stuff but I still feel sad for it’s victims who have not even had anything to do with this matter
cope there wont be any changes. Let me remind you a claim all expedition button wasnt implemented until years later. Ive wanted a skip button for the story for years now.
changes? which changes?
where did you get that information from? and what are the changes?
😂😂😂 when will you guys understand to hoyoverce, you guys don't matter. You r the military in the community. They r still breaking record.
Proof?
This was the first time I had ever been so invested and frankly, entertained by online drama
Listening to mtashed rn feels like I’m watching a teacher try to mediate an argument between middle schoolers
People really tend to forget about things uh, CCs are not kids, stop trying to act as if there are no serious allegations that could lead to getting someone sued, this is not a junior high lvl drama, there's more darker stuff that people don't realize and we don't even know about.
@@Adan.2005 You’re right, they’re not, but the nature of the drama is as mtashed said, very junior high drama vibes. It’s only worse because they are adults and the problems themselves might be much more serious than typical in an actual middle school setting.
@@Nomfyy Right, and the fact that all of the CCs are airing out each other's dirty laundry for the whole public to witness makes this very much soap opera/dramatic middle school vibes. Honestly, all of them need some type of help, they've all suppressed their anger and pain for a long time and just blasting it on twitter is not making their situations better.
Im so glad you are covering this because I refuse to watch 50 different livestreams
Edit: Dude I really think you have missed your calling as a tea channel. You are like the Philip Defranco of the Genshin CC community
Literally all of this could have been resolved with some communication and empathy from all sides. Even Atsu admits how Braxophone feels is fair but his claims are not all true. However, there is no denying that Atsu made it very clear to Braxophone he does not feel comfortable around him. Atsu has a bad impression of him because he started their interaction with "oh did you know this VA is a predator," with no evidence. Personally if someone said that to me, I would avoid them too and you can clearly see Braxophone relies a lot on 'he-said she-said' than actual proof. Yes, Atsu did cut ties with that VA later but we don't know the intricacies of that relationship or when it happened. Understanding boundaries is really important. I also don't believe Atsu goes out of his way to isolate people he dislikes, I think he is simply vocal about the people he dislikes around his friends and that in itself gets misconstrued into manipulation.
When Tectone and Atsu fought, I understood both sides. Envy made a personal attack and Tectone has every right to rebuke him but Atsu, being the mediator, knew that Envy is not mentally sane, making him the perfect target for trolls. So if Tectone piles on, it would give those trolls some more leverage to hurt this mentally unstable person. You may argue that Tectone is not responsible for this and from one viewpoint you are right but you can also argue that he does have influence over the situation; Influencers with more view count have more control over the flow of the situation whether it be intentional or unintentional. Honestly speaking, Atsu being the man-in-the-middle just made things worse for himself.
Atsu asking MiHoYo about the contract Braxophone received is suspicious but I highly doubt he influenced it. It could have been a snowball effect or it could be that MiHoYo found someone better. And if he did have an influence over it, I honestly would not blame him, I would blame MiHoYo for not telling Atsu to suck it up.
At the end of the day, I know Atsu comes off as this slimy, manipulative character which could be true but then again, you can clearly tell he protects the people he cares for and avoids those he does not, and having such a black and white world leads to many, many issues. And for the record, I am an Asmon viewer, I do not know who any of these people even are are except Tectone. This is just a summary of my perspective of what I heard from the stream.
What i still don't understand is why tectone is celebrating and thinking this proves his innocence? Tectone and atsu both are horrible equally based on current info.
Wdym?
Exactly
@@Lore_no2020 the PVP first started with people coming out and calling tectone out on his toxic behaviour and how he is attacking other people by sending his followers after them(this is true, I have seen it happen many times), and he even abused his ex wife to the point of divorce and many other awful things like cheating which are not yet 100% confirmed(only 95%) but based on clips and some evidence that his ex wife and the girl he cheated with posted don't seem to be too far-fetched. Now atsu has been exposed to have a huge ego and be toxic just like tectone but people are making it like atsu being toxic proves tectone's innocence.
Exactly. Tectone needs to definitely take a step back and reflect a bit too. However he's just happy bc atsu is getting flamed.
I still can't forget when Tectone said Atsu needs to watch out for being betrayed by his friends, and then immediately followed it by complaining Atsu put distrust in Tectone's friend.
This hurts to watch
Who else can't wait for Tuesday to play 2.0!?!
Im so hyped I can’t even think about sleeping
I hope there's no drama on Monday, so I can watch people play 2.0 without a shit ton of drama posting on Twitter and YT
Is that Tuesday I thought it is Wednesday
@@TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya timezones
First thing im doing after work and going all night lets gooooo!
Atsu got cooked and Envi literally died didn't know dawg could be so scummy lol
Ats-eew & Envioshitty
Dude is already scummy since he entered TH-cam
Ooh what happened with that weirdo envy? Never found that guy right, same with atsu, and ever other “positive” “wholesome” cc😤
atsu throw envi under the bus to save his asss, yet he still got cooked
People what that soy boy weirdo do? Sorry im not up to date on the genshin drama
Genshin community lore getting more spicy and interesting than the game's lore itself.
ngl, hoyoverse did a good job
Okay this has been at least the most wholesome comment that makes sense.
I'm Maclovin' it
The pacing is crazy
So I watched this video. Went and watched all of Asmongold's stream and finally I have some idea of what is going on. It is clear to me that basically tec and Atsu hate each other and are ready and willing to believe the worst about each other. I felt like I was listening to two kids take any shot they could at each other. Mtashed really did hit the nail on the head when he said it's all jr. high drama!
I think people are glossing over the fact that theres some power dynamic going on here. I'll give Atsu the benefit of the doubt that he really didnt "manipulate" his group to alienate/ostracize Brax. But with how things are now, Atsu indirectly confirmed he has connections/contacts within Hoyoverse combined with the fact he kinda established himself as the "leader" of this friend group, if i'm in the shoes of anyone in his group -- I'd hate to be in Atsu's bad side. Bad blood with him means losing livelihood and getting kicked out of the group. So rather than "manipulation", it's more like "pressure", because everyone is indirect. He was really smart about it since everything could be easily denied (for legal purposes).
Nevertheless, this is just stupid. I'm more on this Brax guy's side bc this couldve been all avoided had Atsu been civil from the start. Youre obviously not gonna get along with everyone but it doesnt mean you have to go out your way to treat someone like this. Their livelihood is based on Content Creation, there is some "professionalism" I expect to be in there but apparently theyre all adults who's stuck on some high school mentality.
The description of "Junior High drama" Mtashed gave is just too funny to me lol
Because it’s true. I stopped following GTA rp on Twitch because I got sick of grown adults making a big deal out of little remarks while they are making bank playing fucking video games.
i wish the community will just focus on this drama instead of swiping their credit card for primo gems
But drama gets to be a lot after a while
Why?
What, why do you want us to be exposed to more negativity, why not just avoid both? 22:08
@@Zero_Li24don't be stupid, i mean it's not our lives so we could just ignore it, they will do whatever they have to do to clear things, but ignoring the primos?, No my Friend that's a big no.
To be honest the Xianyun patch made bank and none of the complaints landed because all these morons just pushed the narrative as the bald man bad again
So annoying I just want this game to be fixed
where is my 144p quality?
Watch zy0x
Why
@@alatuseditsjust to listen in background
@@alatusedits for listening in background while playing game.
There are people in the world that have prepaid data and not unlimited so they gotta budget that damn data
Genshin already had sexual predator voice actors in the past going after 13 year old girls (we all seen the discord leaks) more are bound to come espically in a game like genshin which fosters that behaviour. Brax telling atsu that a guy he knows has connections to hoyo was nothing more than a hey can you have people maybe check this guy out.
Why are we debating brax being "weird" for calling out sexual predator voice actors? Oh right because it's genshin and the playerbase is full of people who say "nahida is 500 years old" gee wonder why people defend criminals like that. Seriously anyone who even tries to defend atsu or envy or any of them get your head checked out.
Man after watching everything, I really gotta say that this entire drama has been very juicy to watch and I'm glad I'm not in the Genshin community. It's hard to believe that all this started from the 3 year 3 pull meme. It was suppose to be Genshin community vs Hoyo but it somehow turned into Genshin CC civil war.
I couldnt agree more. And by the end of the day, the real issue for genshin to fix their feedback system is ended up brushed under the rug because this petty drama blows up.
I dont know when that photo with saki was taken, but as someone who has been in the vtuber community for awhile I would say even if she did say im a vtuber the majority of years ago did not know and some still dont know the ediquette around vtubers unless they are in the vtuber fandom so it should have been itterated to him not to post it because normal youtubers and streamer especially a few years back did not know how to interact with people in that niche cause of how new it was to westerners.
The only winner out of this drama is Mihoyo, no one is really talking about Genshin issues anymore. And CCs are so divided and occupied to roast each other, that people don't listen to them anymore.
Things seemed off on both side and got huge snowball effect.
Thanks Daddy Mustashed to keep your concerns as neutral as possible.
who do you think ordered this diversion op?
Yeah there were things that were weird and some got completely looked over. First thing, the view botting by hoyoverse that was happening, which basically proves that atleast alot of allegations regarding them view botting being real. Second, this might support the argument that the data regarding xianyun and nahida banner being false. Third, there is proven news that mihoyo has one of the worst customer supports and are ordered to improve that which was not covered at all by anyone but maybe one person.
Tectone did Genshin a solid by diverting attention away from the 3 pulls drama. He must be pissed.
🤣🤣
usual tectone L. Maybe if he didn't start taking jabs and calling in the CC that didn't join his crusade all of this woudn't have happened, because guess what? That group of people didn't give a rat's ass about tectone for a solid 3 years, aka, since tectone stirred up another drama out of thin air.
Dude this shit makes Gacha CCs look bad as a whole. Like this is high-school shit. Ya'll got kids man. Come on
I am still confused about this whole thing, this is like psycho levels of behavior with school bully elements sprinkled in 💀
As a dad myself I can completely relate to you and completely understand your take on all of this. Why can't we all just get along at least and stop all the infighting and just talk?
At this point it has just turned into a kindergarden where the kids are throwing sand at each other it's just turned into such a giant mess.
After watching video after video of this it's nice to come to a person who is looking at all of this as subjectively as possible and just try to figure out what is going on and have people talk about these things in private instead of it being a slander cause this does NOT involve the entire community. Not anymore after some of the things that has been said and written.
It is definitely hurting so many more people than just those that are being tagged and talked about I.E. Tectone, Atsu, Braxophone and even Envy for that matter.
My heart definitely goes out to all of the people that has been on the side of this and hurt as "collateral damage".
I mean, there wasn’t really an opportunity for this to be a private. Atsu refused to have any communication with Brax. Brax tried, but Atsu literally had him blocked on everything. And I would argue that it is the business of the community if a CC you support, give money and a platform to, is actually a bully and generally just not nice to other people in the same community you are a part of.
because sometimes things can't settled with hugs and cuddles. there's a reason why war happens
Exactly! I honestly stopped checking twitter bec of all of this. It's just mentally taxing for everyone who comes across this
It is easy to say "why dont we just get along and solve it in private" when it doesnt happen to u..just try to put urself in brax shoes..he did went private first with atsu, but still didnt get why atsu hate him so much as to damage his image and affect his livelihood..What else could brax do?
@@magoomania6278 curl up and cry i dunno, i don't get the kind of privilege in high school to bitch online. so i dunno if id do it if had the option to
Definitely Tectone & Atsu & Dreamy will forever hate each other. From what Tectone says - Atsu & Dreamy are one of the factors to his marriage leading to divorce. Just that alone makes it reasonable for Tectone to never forgive those two.
Yeah that alone I kinda give tectone a pass for being extra pissed at them
How does a content creator ruin Tectone's marriage?
@@Innoplxspreading lies
@@BreMueI won’t be surprised if Tectone and Atsu meet up and end up fighting.
He said he'd forgive anyone but these 2 so yeah, and he has good reasons to hate them both
I hate when ppl call it High-school drama when it can mess with ones ability to make money and livelihood. Is not High-school drama, is someone speaking up after being blacklisted for no reason apart from one individual taking bad.
It's adult influencers doing high school drama with adult influencer consequences
@@racool911 when you bad mouth someone in school, it's kid's drama but when you badmouth someone in a work setting that could lead to one's loss of livelihood, that's slander, same actions, different settings, different levels of severity.
Its not high school drama... its children's drama...
WRONG! Adult content creators and an immature guy who refuses to resolve things privately so they had to settle it publicly. I'm talking about Atsu by the way just in case someone mistakes it again for Tectone.
It's because Atsu and his little group are giving mean girls.
As a new subscriber I would love to see more videos from you that are commentary based videos that aren't drama related. I would love to see you cover topics you're interested in and discuss them. I enjoy videos where you unpack ideas and concepts you're interested in. I'm looking forward to seeing more from you Mtashed and I hope you come out of this situation okay!
The different between Atsu dunking on you and Tectone dunking on you is that if the allegations are true, Atsu dunking CAN affect your ability to form a professional relationships with Hoyoverse.
Hoyoverse should drop Atsu after seeing this shit if they had any sense otherwise they're showing blatant favourtism as if we didn't know they had that already.
Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
i think people give too much credit to atsu. its like he is some god at hoyoverse or something. hoyoverse is an entity of their own. like hell they care about some rando on the internet.
@@siliconhawkstill has swaying powers with hoyo
@@Doflaminguard Ok i want to have a discussion about this because my twitter feed is going crazy , Atsu and tash both are saying that Atsu had talked to hoyoverse to help tash out back in the beta days of zzz and it worked out for a bit then they blacklisted him again , this proves 2 things , one is that hoyovers does take recommendations from Atsu more than any random viewer/player , two is that hoyovers didn’t let tash back into the cc program anyway even after Atsu recommended that , so basically in my eyes the company takes the recommendation of atsu in mind but doesn’t actually follow it like orders and how people are making it seem like they listen to him without any restrictions , Atsu actually tried helping tash and it didn’t work and the only evidence we have is him doing a GOOD thing but people are looking past the good thing he did and accusing him of blacklisting brax with 0 evidence?? Even tho he tried to get tash back on the cc program and it didn’t work???? Make it make sense the math is not there
Was there live, I literally quit genshin and never watched HSR vids apart from Mr Tashed. Felt like I was living under a rock before his recent new vids. I find this junior high level drama very pathetic and people should learn to grow up.
Yup it was Tectone, Atsu and Asmondgold did some lives along with MrPokke
Yeah i went back to read and watch some of the clips and commentary @@sakiamira
@@sakiamiraNEUTRAL
(i was in his stream this was legit the funniest thing ive seem LOL)
Drama and hate is bad, but trying to bring horrible behaviour to light is not.
This situation is a bit blurry and needs more facts, but exposing people is good if it is concrete and righteous.
One example is MrPokke with Dreamy.
I don’t think an alleged complaint of seggsual assault at a cc party, a snake bullying and silencing multiple people with lies is “highschool level drama”
I was pretty on the fence about this whole thing but the 2 things that really convinced me were the:
- texts putting Braxaphone into a Catch-22, and
- Atsu lying about Tectone essentially forcing him to post shared texts involving his sexual assault as a child to prove otherwise.
The Brax texts are included in his post and apparently Atsu admitted he lied regarding the original Tectone situation (though admittedly I haven’t looked into this). You don’t put people in these kinds of situations by accident so it’d be hard to convince me that Atsu wasn’t being malicious to some degree.
Some people saying “it’s just silly drama” when if it’s true it’s livelihoods on the line
Also, someone being a meanie on the internet thus pulling a self diagnosis of ptsd is mental, but then again, so is pulling up a divorce like that; which goes to show the amount of fans lost overnight
It's easy to see why Atsu doesn't like Brax. It really boils down to two things.
1) He's male.
2) He's white.
He doesn't act the way he does towards any females or other asians the way he does Brax.
"I've wasted a lot of my life here" Yeah... that's the same conclusion I got to as well
nah, i got something to listen to while on the plane home.
Honestly the one hope I have for this game and it’s community is the whole MIIT thing that’s going on.
I’m loving this genshin endgame content
*“Maybe the real Genshin endgame is the CC drama we made along the way”*
Masterpiece game, that's why everybody loves it
W content fr fr
The conflict of interest with Hoyo's community team and Atsu is a significant problem. Doesn't matter if power was abused or not, the fact that it could give the appearance is detrimental enough. This is why contractors and the government have a ton of rules and training on this exact topic, because history proves how problematic this can be.
On a side note, as an outsider, the more I listen to Atsu talk, and comparing his Twitter response to his vocal response makes me distrust anything he has to say, and it's frustrating that there's not concrete proof to back up other statements on him.
I think one fact that most people are getting wrong. Brax never talked about contracts or hoyo opportunities as a point those were just conjunctions.
The main point always was , "why am I ostracized by the community where everyone preemptively assumes I'm a horrible guy when I don't even know what I did wrong". He wanted to know why atsu hated him so much that he potentially blocked his carrer and potential friendships.
He just wanted to know what warranted this much hate towards him which to this instance Atsu has never clarified just a lot of deflection and just talking onto brax's points never providing his story
This! I was literally scratching my head on why they were focusing on that aspect when the real issue was being ostracized by the CC
I agree. I feel like Mtashed and Asmon were focusing so much on the blacklisting/having influence with hoyo, when that really wasn’t Brax’s main point, but now that is what everyone is caught on and saying neither sides can be proven when it actually can be proven by the multiple people who have shared their experiences that Atsu is a bully and just generally not very nice to other people in the community.
Yeah and somehow ppl were just slowly redirected to Atsu having direct power over HYV. I think it should have been about going into Atsu's reasoning into doing these horrible things like forcing Tectone to share his stories, doing nothing when Goose was getting death threats, going out of his way to warn ppl, even Tectone about Brax. Asmon was introduced about the drama regarding Brax only, so he went into just that as logically as possible, proving Atsu's potential reasonings, but that doesnt take into account Atsu being a snake and manipulative tho :(
If thats all it is, thats a personal matter and doesn't belong in a twitlonger and isn't a big enough deal to bring in front of Asmongold, that is why they talked about this Hoyo influence with him because that is potentially criminal. We know Atsu got bad vibes from Brax, told his friends this and stayed away from Brax after, and he can do that. Anything else is inferences, rumors, he said she said.
@@KaleidoAbridged the point still stand brax had no connection with atsu to clarify it. Both have confirmed it. Then brax let it go built his brand himself and now is doing better than atsu. He released his statements because Atsu just like with Goose situation decides to subtweet Brax. He also admits he was talking about Brax for no fucking reason again. Warning the worst CC in genshin's history that he needs to be aware of Brax who still doesn't know what he did wrong that the guy who doesn't bat an eye with Tectone decides to warm him. Atsu himself admits that he didn't know if brax was behind teccy's claims but he still said it just like when he shit talked goose 3 yrs ago with no fucking proof and admits to it there are clips everywhere do your fucking research.
If someone tried to fuck my life over something I never knew why I sure be pissed as well so yeah I'd also publicly drop everything when he publicly (in the sub tweet) clearly says stay away from the guide maker and who's the famous guidemaker who appears on tectone's collabs. Fucking Brax
Much respect Mr. Tashed. Being the voice of reason in all of this drama surely isn't easy, but kudos to you for sticking to your own convictions.
This was wild to witness live, was in the Neutral crew tho, shout out to Mr. Pokke!
I can talk sh*t about mtashed and his genshin contents. But props to him for condensing these “dramas” in the clearest way possible (or at least, through his lense)
Man the genshin pvp update is insane.
The closest to anything was Atsu asking the company about the contract, which is really suspicious on why he would do that in the first place as the advice he was asked had nothing to do with asking the company directly.
How a protest with the goal of improving the game for everyone has ended up this way.... What a fragile and disloyal community.
Tectone used it as pretense to air out his badblood with other Genshin CCs.
Atsu fired back which opened the floodgates.
That's kind of the sad thing and why it confuses me that people are rushing to treat Tectone as the champion of the people. He really isn't. He's pissed (some understandably, some petty) over badblood that's been festering for the past few years and that's what all the BS has mutated into. And what really sucks is the amount of people completely unrelated to all of this like Doro originally and later Tenha who got dragged into it all.
@@crimsonECH1DNA Agreed. And to think of how the community could've actually come together after the HoYo stream but didn't - because of this.
Yo mtash love your take on the drama
And the debate with atsu is good
He just wanted some clout
@@Barbatos-ImFineThankYoumaybe he does maybe he doesnt
But his takes were genuine
ofc he want clout andmoney but this drama kinda funny
Today was definitely crazy... Tbh imo. ..Atsu could have kept his Snake status hidden if his tweet where he started off defending Doro(pretty sure Doro, idk) and Tectone had stopped right then and there but NOPE.. he had 2 choices, walk away at defending Doro and Tect or War.. The guy chose war by diverging from the original defending point and starts talking madddddd shit lmaoo
He lose when he mentioned brax about brax manipulating tectone lmao
@@Nakarasuz They all lose to me. All three look like petty losers to me. Doro and Mtashed the only ones coming out of this with W's in my book. Maybe Asmon too.
I do find it a little bit ironic that Brax's comment about the VA is essentially the same scenario that happened to him with Atsu--whether or not it was warranted. He heard it from someone else and then repeated it as a warning without actually knowing the person. That's very similar to what happened to him. Am I the only one that sees the irony in that?
I don't see where its similar. At least if we considere that Brax assumption are right.
Brax repeated something said to him (that he probably think it was a good idea to tell to "protect" Atsu or inform him at least of the risk), on the other end Atsu spread an idea that he himself concocted, to almost anyone around him, nothing lead to think other people spread anything about Brax after Atsu started. In fact most of the others that we know where part of the groupe didn't understand or follow the same idea but just didn't give a shit about it.
There is a big difference on the intention, scale and result.
@@prisciliafloraNop it's the same thing. He slandered the VA without knowing him as an opening topic and so did atsu with someone else, your explanation is just u supposing things on your own when it might even be the opposite. Clearly u have taken side😂😂
Brax's is "I heard this voice actor is really sus, but careful about him dude" Atsu's is "That guy is untrustworthy and I DO NOT want you to bring him to any event I attend, I hate him" to the point where everyone was given the idea that Brax was bad without even second guessing it.
@@LuckyUnlucky2 It seems like it went the other way as well: Brax complaining about Atsu to everyone who will listen. Only difference is Atsu is more influential so had more impact? I don't think there are any innocents in this dumb HS drama.
@@icekyuu did brax complained to someone about atsu? The only thing i saw was brax asking tuonto if he had done something wrong or why was he ostracized, i don't know if he ever warned others about atsu
The evidences and testimonies against atsu are damning. I dont even watch Tectone nor Mtashed but all shits are pointing to Atsu. And tbf , if its true then its horrible what he did to Brax. Atsu not having any good counter arguments and his friends not even defending him with counter proofs make me think that he really is what the allegations say.
Atsu will never admit to anything, even if he has done it. he never denied everything strongly and that is SUS enough. he was always evasive and deflective with his answers. never in strong denial.