Ken wasn't a spoiled brat. The relationship was just what any parent would want from their child. He's just wanted to earn his dad's trust let alone be like his dad who is his own idol. With only 22 minutes of episode, they probably couldn't add it in but you can see some details too of lack of time Ben has for his son much to his Kenny's understanding which is why he'd rather be like him.
I thought that was pretty clear, we literally see a montage where Ben basically kill steals and takes the fight over for his son, not out of ego as like AF or Omniverse Ben, but it seemed like he was genuinely overprotective of Ken, specifically cause we see in that debut episode ben 10000 was still working through his overworking nature where he doesn't even turn back into human form and never leaves any crime for other heroes. As I recall something happened with Vilgax that developed this, same reason he killed the latter in a rage, and I always assumed it was either his parents or maybe the fact Grandpa Max lost his arm, and considering Vilgax's relationship with max, I would think Vilgax did that and it made Ben fear letting people get hurt ever again.
Exactly and if 10 year old Ben knew there were 9,990 other aliens when he got the omnitrix but he only had 10, he would be just as disappointed. Ken is also way less of a brat than Ben was at his age too lol.
@@olympiastudios8776 I used to think Ben was unfair for not giving Ken brutish aliens. Thinking more thoroughly; Four arms, Diamondhead, Heatblast, Wildmutt and Ghostfreak were very dangerous creatures for a newbie to handle
Ben 10k has been one my favorite characters since his introduction in the OS. His character arc of rediscovering his humanity is honestly one of the best in the franchise.
I already agree with all the reasons even before watching the video. This is the best thing that ever happened in the history of Ben 10 and I need more
If Ken was truly a spoiled brat he would have been given the cooler aliens straight from the beginning. You can tell Ben learned from his mistakes as a kid and really tried to make sure Ken was raised differently with a good sense of responsibility (at least after learning from accidentally helping set free Kevin)
I want this but the thing I want more is another crossover between Ben 10 and Generator Rex, would honestly love a whole season with those 2 working together.
1. I don't know if I'd want a ben 10,000 show as with 10,000 aliens and master control what could ever be a challenge for ben. Maybe some more future episodes but I wouldn't oppose a ben 10,000 show but I would prefer a omniverse continuation with ben aged up to 18. 2. 7:00 congratulations on the monetization guys proud of you really moving up. 3. I can't be mad at Ken as aside from xlr8, wildvine and buzzshock ben gave Ken some pretty dull aliens. 4. 16:15 actually according to pop up ben builds Ken omnktrix himself using grey matter and other smart aliens. 5. To be fair about the devin transformation thing I would chop this up to it being a different timeline as this is way before UA was ever conceived so I'd imagine he just never met that other guy and kept the 10 aliens throughout his life. 6. 23:20 I like alien force now but as a kid it was a huge jump going from classic to alien force. Don't get me wrong I liked alien force but as far as animation it felt like such a downgrade especially since every episode takes place at night and in season 1 the backgrounds are so dark you can't see shit.
We ATLEAST need the roadtrip teased in the last season of OV! Thank you! We are glad to have regulars like you supporting us through out it all! Agreed! At least give him one powerhouse lol. That's true, even Frankenstrike got in on it lol I can see that I felt the same way about it! I'm glad I gave it a chance, and kept watching, but young me was not happy lol
@BingeWarmers yeah like I'd definitely want the road trip that was teased. No problem I love the content 😌 Me too I'm glad I gave it a chance as uaf is my favorite ben 10 Era.
Bro was easily the best character in OG Ben 10 if we don't count Grandpa Max. Not because he's the best Ben (he's not) but because Ben 10K is Ben who fully realizes his own power, what it should/shouldn't do, and became pretty mature by the time we see Ken. I feel like OG Ben 10 only scratched the surface in Ben 10K's story potential 100%
Funfact In OV10K timeline Devlin is gwen and kevins son so technically hes Kens cousin. Now we just need great grandpa max too take them on a roadtrip around the universe for summer :)
I think Ben 10,000 should be about more then just him, lets do a brothers adventures with Ken Devlin, Gwen trying to heal Kevin 11,000 as the sorceress supreme of this universe and so on and so forth.
I’ve been saying a Ken 10 would be awesome, they can do it like young justice, Ken has his own trio, Devlin would be Ken’s Kevin and when the situation is too dangerous, we can get Ben, Gwen and max to join in.
9:17 Yeah, and when we see Kevin in the Ben 10,000 future in Omniverse they neve made it clear if he's the same Kevin 11,000 from the OS series or the good Kevin. It was very confusing.
27:52 non Alien X aliens that could beat Goku: Gutrot- DBZ characters don’t really have much poison resistance Pesky dust- same as Gutrot Ghost freak/Whampire- DBZ characters don’t have much, if any, mind control resistance Terraspin- Goku needs to breathe The Worst- it’s a draw Scan Goku- the Omnitrix turns you into the physical/mental peak of the selected species in relation to the user’s age and gender(assuming the selected transformation isn’t asexual/ hermaphroditic). The peak saiyan is Broly or greater, nuff said.
actually i think it was established that quite a few of the DBZ cast is really hard to mind control. if we ignore the movies. also uh you forget to account the DBZ cast is hella fast.
Ben scanning Goku will get him Broly. Genetics-wise, Broly was the peak of his species. Goku is the strongest Saiyan through all the training and stuff.
A Ben 10k show would be sick but i just hope it wouldn't follow the first timeline we saw cuz i dont want to see an evil older Kevin after all the growth and development that Kevin went through in the prime timeline.
I honestly don't think ken is spoiled I just think he wants to be like his dad have the cool aliens fight the the bad guy all that stuff he just tries to prove himself to his dad though his whole episode
For arguements sake, when Ben initially got his omnitrix, he never knew there were more than 10 aliens so of course he never complained about not having more than 10. When Alien Force Ben got reset back to 10, he understood it and accepted it as he is more mature than 10 year old Kenny. 10 year old Kenny sees his dad with the variety of aliens and the abilities his dad has and wants that, just like any entitled kid of rich parents would moan and complain about not having the latest phone & highest brand car when they neglect the fact that, at their age, their parent never had that.
Grey matter, brainstorm and frankenstrike are Ben’s smartest aliens. I hope in the new show we see Ben use those 3 make the Omnitrix . And maybe use jury rigg and upgrade help build it too.that would be an amazing scene.
As to why a Ben 10 1000 show hasn't been green lit yet i'll never understand. It could air on Adult Swim like say Fridays at 10. Have a 25 minutes run time. 10 episodes. It should cater to young adults who like me are in their early twenties grew up watching the OG version in 2005. Here's my pitch. Ben is a famous hero who barely has time for his wife and Ken. To feel more closer to Ken he gifts him an omnitrix and trains him so he could join him in the field. Rook could be his mentor for about 2 or 3 episodes. The fame and power gets to Ken's head and he becomes a spoilt brat. He ditches school and in one adventure, he meets Devin 11. The two are unaware of who their respective fathers are. Gwen is in rehab because she became an alcoholic when Kevin became evil and took off with their son. Ben visits her from time to time to see how she's doing. By the end of the show she conquers her demons and could reunite with her son. Ken could fall in love with some white haired chick who turns out to be the daughter of Albedo. She could be the secondary villain. The season finale sees Ben, Ken, Devin and Gwen stop Kevin 11 1000. They send him to the Null void (AGAIN) where he meets idk Vilgax's son? Then that's your plot for season 2. Ken could learn what responsibility is throughout season 1.
Id like to see a series about him thats mature like invincible with some decent violence and gore but maybe not too much that its exaggerated unless the plot requires it
I have mixed emotions on a ben 10k show, mainly because of Kai, and how she was so forced into being Ben's wife in omniverse. Something I never hear about this episode is it kind of invalidates the Albedo lore. With a second omnitrix making the user a clone on Ben. Though its easily handwaved, with this happening later after they fix this problem. 1:20 took him twenty years, from the age of ten. So he was 30 which isn't bad. A lot of people don't have things figured out by then. 6:50 I believe its been stated that there are stronger aliens in the omnitrix than atomix and alien X. So there are Higher level foes out there, not to mention not every problem can be solved with force. There could still be high stakes. 10:00 considering there is a prison and a penal colony within the null void, there could be a court system too maybe? 12:40 goop isnt artificial. Goops species comes from a very low gravity environment and use antigrav projectors as a crutch of sorts. A means of dealing with the higher gravity most planets have. 13:30 while megawatts can multiply, we never see this power used by ben or ken. 16:00 Was pretty sure it was stated ben made the omnitrix using frankenstrike, brainstorm and greymatter. Which would explain why his one was able to be hacked by ken when Ben never hacked his, since it was made by the much more talented azmuth. 22:00 In the alien force episode 'what are little girls made of' we get to see Vera, and that she has a strong taste for disco. 23:00 considering the overlapping productions, maybe the rustbucket was supposed to be destroyed in classic. But it didnt make it into the last season. 28:10 finally the popup trivia, when you've got like a handful of episodes left. 30:40 there's actually a good few unused realms/dimensions in ben 10 that get mentioned, but its only ever null void/legerdemain that get shown. 33:20 he can suck life energy. 34:40 So I like the explanation that this episode is the timeline that would have happened if Ben 10 didnt meet his future self, and to add to that it takes place in the same timeline of the whatif episode where bens identity is found out, and in that timeline soto doesnt happen either, which would explain why vilgax got to earth despite being spaced by Waybig, Of course his appearance in the episode circles back to how he looked in the ben10k episode with him being shredded in the stasis pod looking similar too his 'death' in the whatif episode.
Yeah, I wish Omniverse wasn't so focused on keeping lore to the point where Ben's son had to time travel to help his parents get together. Also, you are right about Ken having to be a genetic copy of Ben. I wonder how they solved this issue? He had to lock in! Exactly! I would love more diplomatic solutions. Maybe he could unlock an alien that is really good at speaking or something lol Maybe Max got it set up while he spent time there? Oh interesting! I learned something new! Maybe they unlock that ability when they are at a certain age or something? That makes sense to me! She is perfect for Max lol I think RAT was supposed to be canon until Eon's backstory was changed. I'm not sure about that though. We got there eventually lol! I don't even think we covered all of it tbh Wasn't Vilgax supposed to be from another dimension or something? I think that was changed pretty early on. Reminds me of Morbius in the 90s Spider-Man show lol I meant to mention this in the episode! I like that too, it helps tie things together and gives this Ben 10k a 5 year head start to figuring out the omnitrix!
@@BingeWarmersVilgax’s homeworld was in the classic’s lore situated by a rift into the null void. Which I think would’ve worked as a good explanation for how he escaped the null void.
I want ultimate Ben bro. I want to see him learn magic and learn how the ultimatrix works. Out of all the ben 10,000 futures we didn’t get to see his world. It would so awesome
I did like the magic element of that one Ben, it DOES make sense that he would've picked up some things from Gwen over the years (and they have shown that some of it can be learned)
@@unityedits3722 Honestly I wanna learn everything about him cause his marital status is unknown while the other Ben 10,000 counterparts have children we don’t see Ultimate Ben’s son or daughter it was just him. It also seems that he could possibly have erased all evil in his universe using the power of the sword of ascalon fused with the power of the Dagon along with the ultimatrix which is why he’s with Professor Paradox cause he didn’t prove himself to Azmuth that he could handle the completed omnitrix. Would’ve been nice if we could see Alien X as well. Not Ultimate Alien X but Ben 10,000 with some control over Alien X thanks to years of practicing his argument skills.
I would love a Ben 10,000 show, but not any of the alternate Ben 10,000s but the one that Ben Prime grows into if that makes sense. I know ppl are gonna say OV Ben 10,000 is Ben’s future but with all the inconsistencies shown and how the omniverse works, that Ben wouldn’t be his future anymore. So it makes more sense for Ben to grow into another Ben 10,000 that’s ACTUALLY Ben Prime and that Ben I’d love to see a show for because it would best line up all the other four shows and create a consistent timeline (yeah I know the UA to OV period is weird). We could see a new Ben 10,000 with a new gimmick maybe, or maybe he doesn’t need a gimmick. Perhaps in this universe he didn’t even marry Kai and that could be plausible considering that Spanner basically told them they’d marry in the future and they may end up not marrying because of that and go their separate ways (plus as a fandom we’d all be happy lol). Maybe he marries someone else and has a son, but I do wanna see him have a son bc it would give him a new challenge of teaching power and responsibility and retracing his roots to do it which wouldn’t directly nerf him or introduce an overpowered villain, but a unique challenge. (Kinda taking the words of Kuro from the Ink Tank here). What do you guys think?
I think Ben 10,000 (OG timeline) doesn’t have Alien Force aliens because his omnitrix likely never recalibrated like it did in AF (judging from his omnitrix design). I think young Ben meeting Ben 10,000 had a butterfly effect that led to Ben giving up the omnitrix and it being recalibrated when he put it back on in AF. Does this make sense? I can’t remember if there’s actually a canon reason for why the omnitrix recalibrated. My theory is Azmuth was able to update it from afar because’s nobody was using the omnitrix network or something like that.
I always thought that too about the butterfly effect! They never say that out right as far as I’m aware. Paradox explorer Ben went into a cross time of a possible future, but it wasn’t his actual future. That sounds right about the recalibrated omnitrix! I’m assuming azmuth just did some tinkering lol
3:23 Hit it right on the dime the only time Ben 10 was allowed to get mature was during the ultimate alien series and it’s still won the most record lowest toy sales Cartoon Network did not like that. Bondi did not like that so when the next series Omniverse came out, they ruined their scheduling time because they already knew they weren’t gonna sell any more toys because the original demographic of Ben 10 grownup and we still support the show but not in the way they wanted not the fan bags not the fan art creations any of that just the toy sales man of action Dwayne McDuffie, and all the other creators of a show. Want to make some cool for kids. Corporate exec saw that and said we can milk this. Also, the reboot didn’t do well in toy sales. That’s the reason why it got shut down. 😢
It’s stated that the OS Ben 10,000 made Ken’s Omnitrix by using his 3 most smartest aliens (presumably Brainstorm, Gray Matter, and Frankenstrike). Also here’s the powers of the 3 S Aliens: Shellhead: Invulnerable Exoskeleton, Digging, Sphere Transformation (like Cannonbolt) Snakepit: Medusa (eye) powers Sandbox: Basically just Goop but with Sand (Perkins gave them these powers btw).
How about a ben 100 show with ben going from like 18 to his late 20s AND THEN a ben 10000 with ben in his 30s too his 40s? If we are getting a ben 10 grand return we should get too see ben grow up rather than a flash forward straight too ben 10000.
@@BingeWarmers Heck maybe for a marketing reason we could have "Ben 100" on adult swim and a reboot sequel or a new reboot on cartoon network for kids? Best of both worlds with 2 different shows!
I think I would like this mostly because I am kind of sick and tired of Ben being immature and obnoxious. I absolutely loved him in early Alien Force, where he starts stepping into a leadership role and accepting his responsibility. Then in later Alien Force, Ultimate Alien and Omniverse, he becomes such an obnoxious little shit at times. Apparently corporate told the writers they wanted Ben to be more similar to the original series. As in, they wanted a teenager to act like a literal TEN year old. I absolutely hate this direction with Ben's character. He does have good moments where he retains maturity, like in Ultimate Alien and later seasons of Omniverse, and I liked 10 year old Ben in the original. But removing his character development every reboot is super exhausting. If Ben 10000 existed, the tone would definitely be more mature, and showing Ben as a fully fledged full time hero would be amazing.
@@BingeWarmers the thing with DB is. a lot of the powers are just techniques the characters pick up in places. would copying Saiyan DNA also copy that knowledge?
How would a ben 1000 show work though? You can't logsitically create all the remaining aliens in his 10 000 roster. No way the show will last long enough to show all of it.
They will not introduce 10,000 aliens lmao the appeal behind Ben 10k is not his roster of aliens but that he’s a peak version of Ben and what Ben’s potential could shape up to be
Ken wasn't a spoiled brat. The relationship was just what any parent would want from their child. He's just wanted to earn his dad's trust let alone be like his dad who is his own idol.
With only 22 minutes of episode, they probably couldn't add it in but you can see some details too of lack of time Ben has for his son much to his Kenny's understanding which is why he'd rather be like him.
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I thought that was pretty clear, we literally see a montage where Ben basically kill steals and takes the fight over for his son, not out of ego as like AF or Omniverse Ben, but it seemed like he was genuinely overprotective of Ken, specifically cause we see in that debut episode ben 10000 was still working through his overworking nature where he doesn't even turn back into human form and never leaves any crime for other heroes.
As I recall something happened with Vilgax that developed this, same reason he killed the latter in a rage, and I always assumed it was either his parents or maybe the fact Grandpa Max lost his arm, and considering Vilgax's relationship with max, I would think Vilgax did that and it made Ben fear letting people get hurt ever again.
Exactly and if 10 year old Ben knew there were 9,990 other aliens when he got the omnitrix but he only had 10, he would be just as disappointed. Ken is also way less of a brat than Ben was at his age too lol.
@@olympiastudios8776 I used to think Ben was unfair for not giving Ken brutish aliens. Thinking more thoroughly; Four arms, Diamondhead, Heatblast, Wildmutt and Ghostfreak were very dangerous creatures for a newbie to handle
The djw's idea of reboot was phenomenal, his idea was having ben 10k show with ken as being protagonist.
That is phenomenal!
@@BingeWarmers true
I love this idea bc with 10k as the protagonist, the drama/tension would have to be forced since he’s so ridiculously op (imo)
that sounds awesome! i’m trying to look more into this but can’t find much. is there a direct source you’re getting it from?
@@olympiastudios8776 I read about it somewhere.
Ben 10k has been one my favorite characters since his introduction in the OS. His character arc of rediscovering his humanity is honestly one of the best in the franchise.
I'd rather have a show follow young adult Ben getting Master Control and have Ben 10000 be the end goal...
That would be good too!
So omniverse?
@@jameshicks1445 omniverse is about 16 year old ben and the multiverse
5yl comic even though it's not canon.
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I already agree with all the reasons even before watching the video.
This is the best thing that ever happened in the history of Ben 10 and I need more
If you think about it, Kenny Tennyson is basically a western Boruto Uzumaki
I hadn’t thought of it, but you aren’t wrong!
Don't insult Kenny like that😅
I was about say this
Fine. He's Goten. @@HOPEDACODER
@@MegaToonzNetwork at least Goten is useful
If Ken was truly a spoiled brat he would have been given the cooler aliens straight from the beginning. You can tell Ben learned from his mistakes as a kid and really tried to make sure Ken was raised differently with a good sense of responsibility (at least after learning from accidentally helping set free Kevin)
What a BANGER of an episode! It definitely makes me want more Ben 10,000
Exactly!
I want this but the thing I want more is another crossover between Ben 10 and Generator Rex, would honestly love a whole season with those 2 working together.
YES! I need more Rex in general!
1. I don't know if I'd want a ben 10,000 show as with 10,000 aliens and master control what could ever be a challenge for ben. Maybe some more future episodes but I wouldn't oppose a ben 10,000 show but I would prefer a omniverse continuation with ben aged up to 18.
2. 7:00 congratulations on the monetization guys proud of you really moving up.
3. I can't be mad at Ken as aside from xlr8, wildvine and buzzshock ben gave Ken some pretty dull aliens.
4. 16:15 actually according to pop up ben builds Ken omnktrix himself using grey matter and other smart aliens.
5. To be fair about the devin transformation thing I would chop this up to it being a different timeline as this is way before UA was ever conceived so I'd imagine he just never met that other guy and kept the 10 aliens throughout his life.
6. 23:20 I like alien force now but as a kid it was a huge jump going from classic to alien force. Don't get me wrong I liked alien force but as far as animation it felt like such a downgrade especially since every episode takes place at night and in season 1 the backgrounds are so dark you can't see shit.
We ATLEAST need the roadtrip teased in the last season of OV!
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Agreed! At least give him one powerhouse lol.
That's true, even Frankenstrike got in on it lol
I can see that
I felt the same way about it! I'm glad I gave it a chance, and kept watching, but young me was not happy lol
@BingeWarmers yeah like I'd definitely want the road trip that was teased.
No problem I love the content 😌
Me too I'm glad I gave it a chance as uaf is my favorite ben 10 Era.
It had a low budget I think. But atleast in Omniverse we get clearer backgrounds lol .People hate on omniverse to much but it had the best animation.
Bro was easily the best character in OG Ben 10 if we don't count Grandpa Max. Not because he's the best Ben (he's not) but because Ben 10K is Ben who fully realizes his own power, what it should/shouldn't do, and became pretty mature by the time we see Ken. I feel like OG Ben 10 only scratched the surface in Ben 10K's story potential 100%
Funfact
In OV10K timeline
Devlin is gwen and kevins son so technically hes Kens cousin. Now we just need great grandpa max too take them on a roadtrip around the universe for summer :)
Or OV Devlin is adopted
No Devlin was a kid Kevin had with a woman from mars
@@kingmuizz708 From Saturn, not Mars
@@miguelbianchi968 ah that was it yeah! Thanks for the correction
Ben 10,000 and Ken10 need to be a show animated like the Original or Ultimate Alien😎👍🏽💯
I think Ben 10,000 should be about more then just him, lets do a brothers adventures with Ken Devlin, Gwen trying to heal Kevin 11,000 as the sorceress supreme of this universe and so on and so forth.
I’ve been saying a Ken 10 would be awesome, they can do it like young justice, Ken has his own trio, Devlin would be Ken’s Kevin and when the situation is too dangerous, we can get Ben, Gwen and max to join in.
9:17 Yeah, and when we see Kevin in the Ben 10,000 future in Omniverse they neve made it clear if he's the same Kevin 11,000 from the OS series or the good Kevin. It was very confusing.
27:52 non Alien X aliens that could beat Goku:
Gutrot- DBZ characters don’t really have much poison resistance
Pesky dust- same as Gutrot
Ghost freak/Whampire- DBZ characters don’t have much, if any, mind control resistance
Terraspin- Goku needs to breathe
The Worst- it’s a draw
Scan Goku- the Omnitrix turns you into the physical/mental peak of the selected species in relation to the user’s age and gender(assuming the selected transformation isn’t asexual/ hermaphroditic). The peak saiyan is Broly or greater, nuff said.
actually i think it was established that quite a few of the DBZ cast is really hard to mind control. if we ignore the movies.
also uh you forget to account the DBZ cast is hella fast.
Amazing video bro. Keep it up
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Shellhead should been a Turtle Alien sense Ken said Shellhead is just a Turtle that's only power is to hide in his shell.
Honestly it be bad ass to see this coming back for the adults who grew up with the OG like myself
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Ben scanning Goku will get him Broly.
Genetics-wise, Broly was the peak of his species. Goku is the strongest Saiyan through all the training and stuff.
i think Broly counts as a Mutant. are mutants peak?
A Ben 10k show would be sick but i just hope it wouldn't follow the first timeline we saw cuz i dont want to see an evil older Kevin after all the growth and development that Kevin went through in the prime timeline.
Oh yeah, I totally agree! Kevin is one of the best characters on the show, it’d be a shame to see him go evil again
In the Omniverse future he doesnt seem evil he's a good guy.
@@rondo3800 And yet he has evil Kevin's design, scar and all.
I honestly don't think ken is spoiled I just think he wants to be like his dad have the cool aliens fight the the bad guy all that stuff he just tries to prove himself to his dad though his whole episode
I can see that!
Definitely agree🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
For arguements sake, when Ben initially got his omnitrix, he never knew there were more than 10 aliens so of course he never complained about not having more than 10. When Alien Force Ben got reset back to 10, he understood it and accepted it as he is more mature than 10 year old Kenny.
10 year old Kenny sees his dad with the variety of aliens and the abilities his dad has and wants that, just like any entitled kid of rich parents would moan and complain about not having the latest phone & highest brand car when they neglect the fact that, at their age, their parent never had that.
Grey matter, brainstorm and frankenstrike are Ben’s smartest aliens. I hope in the new show we see Ben use those 3 make the Omnitrix . And maybe use jury rigg and upgrade help build it too.that would be an amazing scene.
This was a great video
Thanks for saying that!
Give this man a show
Those pokemon comparisons are perfect 😂
As to why a Ben 10 1000 show hasn't been green lit yet i'll never understand. It could air on Adult Swim like say Fridays at 10. Have a 25 minutes run time. 10 episodes. It should cater to young adults who like me are in their early twenties grew up watching the OG version in 2005. Here's my pitch. Ben is a famous hero who barely has time for his wife and Ken. To feel more closer to Ken he gifts him an omnitrix and trains him so he could join him in the field. Rook could be his mentor for about 2 or 3 episodes. The fame and power gets to Ken's head and he becomes a spoilt brat. He ditches school and in one adventure, he meets Devin 11. The two are unaware of who their respective fathers are. Gwen is in rehab because she became an alcoholic when Kevin became evil and took off with their son. Ben visits her from time to time to see how she's doing. By the end of the show she conquers her demons and could reunite with her son. Ken could fall in love with some white haired chick who turns out to be the daughter of Albedo. She could be the secondary villain. The season finale sees Ben, Ken, Devin and Gwen stop Kevin 11 1000. They send him to the Null void (AGAIN) where he meets idk Vilgax's son? Then that's your plot for season 2. Ken could learn what responsibility is throughout season 1.
That sounds awful
Id like to see a series about him thats mature like invincible with some decent violence and gore but maybe not too much that its exaggerated unless the plot requires it
That would be cool. I honestly would love to know what 20 year old Ben looks like but.... that will never happen now
I have mixed emotions on a ben 10k show, mainly because of Kai, and how she was so forced into being Ben's wife in omniverse. Something I never hear about this episode is it kind of invalidates the Albedo lore. With a second omnitrix making the user a clone on Ben. Though its easily handwaved, with this happening later after they fix this problem.
1:20 took him twenty years, from the age of ten. So he was 30 which isn't bad. A lot of people don't have things figured out by then.
6:50 I believe its been stated that there are stronger aliens in the omnitrix than atomix and alien X. So there are Higher level foes out there, not to mention not every problem can be solved with force. There could still be high stakes.
10:00 considering there is a prison and a penal colony within the null void, there could be a court system too maybe?
12:40 goop isnt artificial. Goops species comes from a very low gravity environment and use antigrav projectors as a crutch of sorts. A means of dealing with the higher gravity most planets have.
13:30 while megawatts can multiply, we never see this power used by ben or ken.
16:00 Was pretty sure it was stated ben made the omnitrix using frankenstrike, brainstorm and greymatter. Which would explain why his one was able to be hacked by ken when Ben never hacked his, since it was made by the much more talented azmuth.
22:00 In the alien force episode 'what are little girls made of' we get to see Vera, and that she has a strong taste for disco.
23:00 considering the overlapping productions, maybe the rustbucket was supposed to be destroyed in classic. But it didnt make it into the last season.
28:10 finally the popup trivia, when you've got like a handful of episodes left.
30:40 there's actually a good few unused realms/dimensions in ben 10 that get mentioned, but its only ever null void/legerdemain that get shown.
33:20 he can suck life energy.
34:40 So I like the explanation that this episode is the timeline that would have happened if Ben 10 didnt meet his future self, and to add to that it takes place in the same timeline of the whatif episode where bens identity is found out, and in that timeline soto doesnt happen either, which would explain why vilgax got to earth despite being spaced by Waybig, Of course his appearance in the episode circles back to how he looked in the ben10k episode with him being shredded in the stasis pod looking similar too his 'death' in the whatif episode.
Yeah, I wish Omniverse wasn't so focused on keeping lore to the point where Ben's son had to time travel to help his parents get together. Also, you are right about Ken having to be a genetic copy of Ben. I wonder how they solved this issue?
He had to lock in!
Exactly! I would love more diplomatic solutions. Maybe he could unlock an alien that is really good at speaking or something lol
Maybe Max got it set up while he spent time there?
Oh interesting! I learned something new!
Maybe they unlock that ability when they are at a certain age or something?
That makes sense to me!
She is perfect for Max lol
I think RAT was supposed to be canon until Eon's backstory was changed. I'm not sure about that though.
We got there eventually lol! I don't even think we covered all of it tbh
Wasn't Vilgax supposed to be from another dimension or something? I think that was changed pretty early on.
Reminds me of Morbius in the 90s Spider-Man show lol
I meant to mention this in the episode! I like that too, it helps tie things together and gives this Ben 10k a 5 year head start to figuring out the omnitrix!
@@BingeWarmersVilgax’s homeworld was in the classic’s lore situated by a rift into the null void. Which I think would’ve worked as a good explanation for how he escaped the null void.
I want ultimate Ben bro. I want to see him learn magic and learn how the ultimatrix works.
Out of all the ben 10,000 futures we didn’t get to see his world. It would so awesome
I did like the magic element of that one Ben, it DOES make sense that he would've picked up some things from Gwen over the years (and they have shown that some of it can be learned)
@@unityedits3722 Honestly I wanna learn everything about him cause his marital status is unknown while the other Ben 10,000 counterparts have children we don’t see Ultimate Ben’s son or daughter it was just him.
It also seems that he could possibly have erased all evil in his universe using the power of the sword of ascalon fused with the power of the Dagon along with the ultimatrix which is why he’s with Professor Paradox cause he didn’t prove himself to Azmuth that he could handle the completed omnitrix.
Would’ve been nice if we could see Alien X as well. Not Ultimate Alien X but Ben 10,000 with some control over Alien X thanks to years of practicing his argument skills.
KEVINN!!!
As my defense Ken reminds me of how Ben was when he got ahold of Master Control
We all would love that but with a more mature tone like samurai jack did
This would be awesome please
I would love a Ben 10,000 show, but not any of the alternate Ben 10,000s but the one that Ben Prime grows into if that makes sense. I know ppl are gonna say OV Ben 10,000 is Ben’s future but with all the inconsistencies shown and how the omniverse works, that Ben wouldn’t be his future anymore. So it makes more sense for Ben to grow into another Ben 10,000 that’s ACTUALLY Ben Prime and that Ben I’d love to see a show for because it would best line up all the other four shows and create a consistent timeline (yeah I know the UA to OV period is weird). We could see a new Ben 10,000 with a new gimmick maybe, or maybe he doesn’t need a gimmick. Perhaps in this universe he didn’t even marry Kai and that could be plausible considering that Spanner basically told them they’d marry in the future and they may end up not marrying because of that and go their separate ways (plus as a fandom we’d all be happy lol). Maybe he marries someone else and has a son, but I do wanna see him have a son bc it would give him a new challenge of teaching power and responsibility and retracing his roots to do it which wouldn’t directly nerf him or introduce an overpowered villain, but a unique challenge. (Kinda taking the words of Kuro from the Ink Tank here). What do you guys think?
Love this idea. I think it would be way more satisfying to see Ben Prime’s true future than one of his alternate futures.
For me, the Prime Future is UA 10k and OV 10k
His true future might be similar to Omniverse future but obv he would be a different person.
@@rondo3800 not necessarily, he could just become the OV Future
I think Ben 10,000 (OG timeline) doesn’t have Alien Force aliens because his omnitrix likely never recalibrated like it did in AF (judging from his omnitrix design). I think young Ben meeting Ben 10,000 had a butterfly effect that led to Ben giving up the omnitrix and it being recalibrated when he put it back on in AF. Does this make sense? I can’t remember if there’s actually a canon reason for why the omnitrix recalibrated. My theory is Azmuth was able to update it from afar because’s nobody was using the omnitrix network or something like that.
Ben 10,000 never going through the events of Alien Force also makes sense because Kevin was still a villain in that future.
I always thought that too about the butterfly effect! They never say that out right as far as I’m aware. Paradox explorer Ben went into a cross time of a possible future, but it wasn’t his actual future. That sounds right about the recalibrated omnitrix! I’m assuming azmuth just did some tinkering lol
Ken (Alien Force) was very normal with a cool car, so I think he died in a car crash.
Rip Ken
On April fools Cn posted a Ben 10,000 prank. That only have me hope that they at least know it’s what the fans want
AND FLYING BARK PRODUCTIONS TO ANIMATE 🗣️🗣️🗣️
It'd work great as a slice of life show.
It would be touched on
WE NEED A BEN 10 000 SPIN OFF😣
Son of a hero...similar to his dad when it comes to powers...looks just like his dad and people think he's a spoiled brat...Boruto? Nahh Ken 10
I’ll see this as a movie more 🤔
Ken 10 reminds me of Baruto
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Hit it right on the dime the only time Ben 10 was allowed to get mature was during the ultimate alien series and it’s still won the most record lowest toy sales Cartoon Network did not like that. Bondi did not like that so when the next series Omniverse came out, they ruined their scheduling time because they already knew they weren’t gonna sell any more toys because the original demographic of Ben 10 grownup and we still support the show but not in the way they wanted not the fan bags not the fan art creations any of that just the toy sales man of action Dwayne McDuffie, and all the other creators of a show. Want to make some cool for kids. Corporate exec saw that and said we can milk this.
Also, the reboot didn’t do well in toy sales. That’s the reason why it got shut down. 😢
Cartoon Network really didn’t know what they had going for them! We would have supported Ben 10 to the end lol
It’s stated that the OS Ben 10,000 made Ken’s Omnitrix by using his 3 most smartest aliens (presumably Brainstorm, Gray Matter, and Frankenstrike).
Also here’s the powers of the 3 S Aliens:
Shellhead: Invulnerable Exoskeleton, Digging, Sphere Transformation (like Cannonbolt)
Snakepit: Medusa (eye) powers
Sandbox: Basically just Goop but with Sand
(Perkins gave them these powers btw).
Thanks for the explanation!
Nah as a kid growing up I always hoped he was supposed to get a show.
When I was a kid I only wished they'd do a Ben 10,000 series, muscular chad Ben Tennyson > Sumo fan Dweeb Ben Tennyson.
But ken isn't always a brat tho we see it when Spanner reveals his identity
yeah but he has it cranked up to 11 on this episode lol.
How about a ben 100 show with ben going from like 18 to his late 20s AND THEN a ben 10000 with ben in his 30s too his 40s?
If we are getting a ben 10 grand return we should get too see ben grow up rather than a flash forward straight too ben 10000.
I'd love to see that!!!
@@BingeWarmers Heck maybe for a marketing reason we could have
"Ben 100" on adult swim
and a reboot sequel or a new reboot on cartoon network for kids?
Best of both worlds with 2 different shows!
Chad 10.000
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEAAAAAAAARS!!!!!!!!!!
I also would like a Ben 10 anime though😪
I think I would like this mostly because I am kind of sick and tired of Ben being immature and obnoxious. I absolutely loved him in early Alien Force, where he starts stepping into a leadership role and accepting his responsibility.
Then in later Alien Force, Ultimate Alien and Omniverse, he becomes such an obnoxious little shit at times. Apparently corporate told the writers they wanted Ben to be more similar to the original series. As in, they wanted a teenager to act like a literal TEN year old. I absolutely hate this direction with Ben's character. He does have good moments where he retains maturity, like in Ultimate Alien and later seasons of Omniverse, and I liked 10 year old Ben in the original.
But removing his character development every reboot is super exhausting. If Ben 10000 existed, the tone would definitely be more mature, and showing Ben as a fully fledged full time hero would be amazing.
My line with the reboot is what they did to generator rex
Rex deserves better!
Is it just me or Jensen ackles gives me vibes of being a good live action ben 10000. Even as a voice actor.
I really don't understand why yhey rebooted ben 10, they could had started ben 10000 show right after it.
I would like this but I kind of feel like AF genuinely ruined this for us and everything afterwards.
Ok I want a Ben 10000 episode but I dont want it to have a braty ken I want a ken more like spanner
Should Ken have an omnitrix?
I say yeah and they make him understand why he only has 10 and won't be so braty
Aint no one about to watch a show about some dude
Not just SOME dude! THE dude!
I can’t believe they didn’t continue the original universe and gave is that new reboot garbage please I hope this happens
And we didn’t get this why?
Because Cartoon Network wanted a sillier show lol
Hell ye
Loved this but Goku one shots him 10/10
Even with Alien x??
@@BingeWarmers Without him nah no way WITH him hmmm better make sure both heads agree then probably ya
@@lmAndyYT I think Ben 10K could hold his own even without Alien X. He might even sample the saiyan DNA
@@BingeWarmers That'd be funny if he straight up transforms into Goku but his power level would be low so either way Ben10K the goat gets 💥
@@BingeWarmers the thing with DB is. a lot of the powers are just techniques the characters pick up in places. would copying Saiyan DNA also copy that knowledge?
I'd like it in the original art style, and going back to the white and black; the green took over everything and looked awful.
I agree! Black and white looks best
Ken would have to be there, he was in Omniverse as spangler, and Kai Green ends up getting with ben.
Ben Ten Thousand should have a Netflix Universe.
That would be cool!
Why is he kindaa
Ben 10k is too OP, if he gets a show he'll need to be needed and I don't think the fans will like that or even buy it
Idk about that, they just need to introduce more personal drama or stronger villains. Superman never needs to be nerfed for his shows
Ken would have turned out great if Ben married Hope. Bet she would have properly spoiled him. Haha 😅
How would a ben 1000 show work though? You can't logsitically create all the remaining aliens in his 10 000 roster. No way the show will last long enough to show all of it.
Good point! I think he would maybe switch playlists every season so we could see how effectively he can build a team or something
They will not introduce 10,000 aliens lmao the appeal behind Ben 10k is not his roster of aliens but that he’s a peak version of Ben and what Ben’s potential could shape up to be