5:50 Ahhhh the familiar sounds of driving on thick ice buildup...... We get that pleasure a few times every winter, and God help you if you don't have a newer vehicle with good suspension. True North Canadian here! great video!
Sand. Always carry a couple of buckets with sand. Trucks dont have a lot of traction, especially if they are not fully loaded. Trucks dont get stuck because they cant push the snow aside, but because they dont have traction. When I was a truckdriver we always carried sand or gravel in the winter. Much easier than the snowchains. I have been stuck on the Brenner a few times, but the easiest solution is to just look at the weather in advance and start a 9 hour mandatory sleepbreak when you hit a snowstorm. Southern Europe only ! Scandinavia you have to learn to deal with the snow. Appropriate tires, practice the snowchains, Coolingtime of tires etc. But boy it was fun to be a truckdriver :-)
Need there only Finish or Norvegian trucks with their knowin about winter trafic and winter wheels, no problem. I know I am finish and bee there many times when drived 20 years international. Middle european truck had summer wheels, no differential lock and driver no knowin of driving over ice and snow.
Any nationality has have drivers that screw up. If you new the history of the continent, how many times that efn Poland stoped the eastern hordes from invading the rest of you, there would be no efn Europe. Your freedom at the cost of our blood. Joke is on you tamasmalin.
Beautiful scenery. I've never been stuck but my brother has. He had a Golf and nearly 2 feet of snow. I did get a little stuck in 1.5 feet, I had bold tyres and eventually managed to get going.
And the 2018-2019 winter was considered “a below average winter” in the western side of the alps. I wont argue about that because feb 1 was one of the only days with good snowfall that winter.
Ładnie posypało. Trochę sobie postaliście. Sporo ludzi krytykuje tu gościa z Ostrołęki, że zablokował autostradę. Może trzeba dodać jakieś info, że jednak nie ;) Jaka kamera?
Wow miles and miles of parked Big Rigs..looks like a couple of them will be there until spring..those single axle cab-overs lol. You rarely see C.O.'s in the States anymore. Back in the mid 80's I owned an International C.O. 9670 with a 300 Big Cam Cummins doing flat bed work. It was a great little puddle jumper lol.
The reason you see so many cab overs in europe is because cities here the roads was built before the invention of cars so they are usually alot narrower than in the states
The one and only reason you don't see other than cab over in the EU is length, ie overall length of the tractor trailer. The restrictions more or less put any other combination out of business apart from novelty and specialty short trailer or loads .
I once sit on M1 in the morning for 3 hours to wait a helicoper. it was Christmas day 2017. People just get drunk at Christmas then carry on after. BTW what did you eat? did you go toilet??
I was under the impression that you had to have winter tyres and tyre chains to go over any of the European mountains I know I had to have snow chains going montblanc in winter time and winter tyres so what's the big problem have the drivers gone soft or wot.
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Michael Baker - there are no winter tyres for big trucks. Chains - yes, but installed on typical all season tyres. Trucks in USA / Canada are usually 3 axle - one for steering and two for traction. As prices of fuel are drastically higher in Europe, trucks here are two-axle only. And it is much, much less effective I snowy conditions, as there’s not enough traction for a heavy load.
Italy: "Although it is not obligatory to carry snow chains on board the vehicle, they must be fitted when crossing Alpine passes in winter and on all other snow-covered roads in compliance with the relevant road sign. A minimum of one pair of chains must be fitted per vehicle."
The authorities made a mistake by not forcing all the trucks to the outer lanes in time. This is the first thing to do, otherwise you get 1 single truck and a 50 km queue of 1000 passanger cars, vans, minivans, SUVs etc. behind it.
Bersus Actually, it was one of the worst hours I remember in my life. There was a moment I wanted to take my family and walk to the exit of the tunnel. What can you do? Convince dozens of drivers to turn off the engines? Unreal. The only thing that comforted me was the natural draft that probably resulted from the difference in entry and exit levels of the tunnel. A really fucking situation...
PS The problem is that tunnel fans did not turn up at all. There were 20m ahead of us and they were whirling slowly driven by natural draft. The smell of exhaust outside was unbearable. Only that I have a cabin carbon filter which I switched some time on for a few minutes let us survive somehow. The worst is the helplessness of the situation because you can not do anything unless you leave the car and walk. As I now watch the movie, it does not look scary, but those were really bad times.😬
@@ArturKomorowski we got stuck for 18 hours in the alps a couple of years ago. i know exactly what you mean with scary. you feel helpless and just sit there, nothing you can do. we were all adults, and what keeped me cool was that i knew that there were people there suffering a lot more than me. kids, elderly, sick etc.
Sure. it’s good that for some time now data roaming in the EU is not ridiculously expensive. We've probably listened to half of the spotify 😂 “what does not kill you makes you stronger”.😎
Why drive a truck in Europe in the winter, if all you do is sit in back-ups like this? We have snow storms in the US but we salt, plow & chain up to deal with it & keep moving . Single screw trucks usually stay in the warmer parts because they get stuck so easy. And we tow & fine drivers that are unprepared to drive in winter conditions.
So I am fully rigged wintry tiers , chains thermal underwear , Coffey same as the 2751 trucks in front of me. Truck 2752 in front as all the same but no chains so is stopped how did my chains help ?
What did I miss? Were the roads icy, that caused everybody to stop? There wasn't enough snow on the ground to prevent anyone from driving at the beginning of the video. Toward the end, there was more snow piled around the vehicles blocking the road, so a plow couldn't get through.
at 1:15 trafic signs say that you had to leave the Motorway in Brixen... in Italian and in German! but you were stuck between Frabzrnsfeste and Mauls (i recognize in the video...!) so maybe it would be useful to add English either... or using the good old CB - as there might have been also some polish speaking CB'ers on this Road...!
There is always this one guy .. " I am better then all of you I don't even know why you've stopped your trucks I'll keep going !" .. gets stuck like everybody else, blames it on a random fact
The EU tractor trailer combination is unsuitable on icy and snowy roads. In winter in Scandinavia we see a lot of midle- and east european tractor trailers get stuck and and prevents normal truck traffic. The tractor has to be at least one meter longer than the EU-tractor to be safe on winter roads. Best is a 24 to 25,25 meter combination with a 3 axle truck (6 x 2) and a draw bar trailer.
Questo non è un disastro di neve. Accade ogni anno in Italia, in Lombardia, in Veneto, in Trentino. La neve è normale e la quantità che si deposita non è particolarmente elevata. INoltre in febbraio sull'autostrada del brennero, al confine tra Italia e Austria, le nevicate sono fattori naturali che non dovrebbero destare particolari problemi. I mezzi devono essere attrezzati e si deve essere preparati a questo fin dai primi mesi di Dicembre. Quindi non è stata una nevicata eccezzionale a creare tutto questo ma l'incuria e l'assoluta mancanza di manutenzione che la società Autostrade dovrebbe e doveva fare. E che invece non ha fatto. Le colpe sono inoltre degli automobilisti ignari che non hanno osservato la prescrizione di dotarsi di mezzi antisdruciolevoli, catene o pneumatici da neve. A tutto questo si deve aggiungere l'inadeguatezza delle infrastrutture italiane che, difronte a 20 cm di neve, mandano al collasso una Autostrada e interi paesi e regioni. Non diamo la colpa a madre Natura. In questi casi Lei non c'entra nulla. Diamo la colpa a chi non ha fatto nulla per evitare tutto questo e chi si è avventurato in mezzo ad una tormenta senza sapere cosa stava facendo. E da italiano io mi vergogno ad avere un paese di ebeti che non è capace a pulire una Autostrada.
@@paulmartin1094 cool.! I know, if there is something the Austrians do well is knodels and snow-ploughing. Btw do the Germanics have snow ploughs that can squeeze to drive beteween and underneath 100s of trucks stuck in tbe snow?
The David no they don't,but it is normal on autobahn if there is a stall or holdup for the trucks to move to the right and cars move to the left,so that there is a clear path for police and emergency vehicles to travel,simple idea but it works very well,unlike other nations were the road is completely blocked with vehicles.
it could've been must worse...there could have been a multi-vehicle crash like the ones in the USA which can involve 50 to 100 cars and trucks during a blizzard.
With single axle you have bigger load on it thus better traction in winter conditions to start moving. However it's better to have double-drive-axle when you are already in motion.
I don't understand why every truck is single axle drive no traction.They should be bogie drive would have a lot better chance of grip. They should all have chains as well...
Winter tires wouldn't change a thing. February, I had proper brand new winter tires under the truck. Got stuck as well. Little bit of sand and salt under the wheels and voila, good to go.
Some countries using chains on a big roads is illegal. In finland if you put chains and drive to highway that costs you atleast 170euros fines(170€ is smallest fines here). On a small roads you can use chains but no big roads.
@@DustySenecal33 In Norway were i live you need to bring at least 7 chains on a truck and trailer during wintertime, and you must know how to use them as well :) And wintertyres are a must of course :)
main problem is that in winter on the northern part of the Brennero, a heavy snow can happen anytime. Still the maintenance failed and too many drivers didn't take the necessary precautions (ex. chains)
@@ArturKomorowski don't know if just lazy, they were on strike or no money, but not enough maintenance guys were deployed. And a lot of drivers (italians and foreigners) don't give a shit. Considering the amount of italian money this region is hoarding, what happened, is plainly moronic.
If too many people get stuck while there is heavy snow "starting"(!!) to come down, the snow plows cant´t pass ! By the way in italy they don´t use ordinary snow plows. We use 4 Wheel drive Lamborghini´s. :-)
@@filippo8195 ha ragione da vendere, con tutti i soldi che prendono sti parassiti statali, e poi non hanno i mezzi per spalare la neve, ma dove cazzo vivi???
A parte il fatto che la Sua risposta è tipicamente “ italiana “ nel senso solo offensiva e non costruttiva, molto poco civile insomma, devo farLe notare che il commento centra il nocciolo del problema. Impari ad essere obbiettivo è abbandoni questi toni da tifoso di calcio...
California probably has as many trucks on their roads as all of eastern Europe. It's way more dangerous in California because none of the drivers there speak the same language, let alone English.
In queste condizioni, i camion devono essere fermati in basso (max Bolzano)... chi si avventura senza equipaggiamento invernale (camion o auto che sia) e blocca il traffico multone da ricordare a lungo... questa è la ricetta svizzera. Se non blocchi i camion prima, come cavolo fai a pulire le strade?
e a Bolzano dove metterli i camion, senza bloccar lì tutto? io sono stato a BZ il dì dopo... un macello, nei pressi della zona industriale e l'accesso all'A22... immagina un po se ci sarebbero stati pure anche questi
Rossdokta Mail in zone di montagna dovrebbero essere previste aree di sosta per i camion in questi casi, da sfruttare magari anche come centri di controllo viario o centri tecnici per il controllo dei veicoli pesanti (visti anche certi rottami di camion dell’est circolanti). Non conosco così bene la zona di Bolzano, ma nella mia zona (sono sulla via per il tunnel del San Gottardo e del San Bernardino, quindi conosco bene le problematiche.
I understand that many countries in Europe (like Austria) require passenger vehicles to have snow tyres in winter months. Does the same applies to lorries? Thx - Colorado winter warrior
Yes, that also applies to lorries. The tires aren't the problem here. The problem is that european 4x2 tractors have really shitty weight distribution for driving on snow. Even with chains they're fucked. On 4x2 trucks the fifth wheel is placed in front of the rear drive axle, thus distributing the weight between the rear drive axle and the (not driven) front axle. That's bad. In scandinavian countries as example you will rarely see 4x2. They drive 6x2 with a rear lift axle (middle axle is driven). The fifth wheel is placed exactly above or sometimes even slightly behind the driving axle, putting as much weight as possible on the driving axle once the rear axle is lifted. Norwegian trailers also often have the wheels placed further back because of this, so even more weight is put on the driving axle. Cargo placement in the trailer is also an issue.
Il problema sono i mezzi sprovvisti di gomme da neve che fanno la differenza, mentre la legge che dice o dotazioni invernali o catene a bordo è sbagliata, bisogna mettere solo gomme da neve!!!!
@@vedransylwiazembo1170 la strada non doveva comunque stare in quelle condizioni. La a22 si trova alle pendici delle Dolomiti, non sulla riviera salentina e siamo a dicembre. Chissà come mai in Austria non c'era neanche un fiocco di neve sul manto stradale... E paghiamo i pedaggi più alti d'Europa. Meglio che sto zitto altrimenti mi bannano dal tubo e mi querelano🤬
@@fecciargento5102 io ho lavorato 2 anni in Svezia sui lastbillar ovvero autotreno di 25,25 metri a 70 tonnellate, li le strade sono le stesse, i mezzi per la pulizia sono gli stessi che ci sono in Italia ma non arrivano a pulire tutto, di neve ce n'è molta di più per non parlare del ghiaccio con le dovuto dotazioni, gomme e catene, non ti fermi mai!! Anche se devi scendere ogni 10 km per mettere o togliere le catene si fa.
Kavaja Music I would love to, even though for a few moments we could sunbathe. It is a pity that in these Alpes heaped up so many hills that cover the sun, especially in winter morning 😎
Sono di Genova e nell’entroterra nevica parecchio. Gli spazzaneve partono subito e gli autocarri bloccati . La stessa notte sulla Savona Torino sono caduti 40 cm e ci sono stati solo rallentamenti. É scandaloso che certi fatti accadano sul Brennero dove si dovrebbe essere attrezzati !
Hanno tanto la puzza sotto il naso questi mezzi tedeschi alto atesini e sono capaci di lasciar scendere 40cm di neve su un autostrada senza far entrare un paio di mezzi per carreggiata...
The average truck driver in Southern Europe will never encounter driving conditions like this in their entire lifetime. Why waste money on snow chains when they're incredibly unlikely to be ever used?
At the end of this video you can notice the difference between a civilized country (Austria) and my country (Italy) where people must pay the most expensive tolls in Europe to get stuck in the snow for 24h (or more if you drive a truck) in december on a highway that crosses the mountains.
1. Ignore weather forecast. 2. Ignore road condition reports. 3. Head out on the highway in a snow storm. 4. Get delayed over night in your car. 5. Wonder at having such bad luck. .6. Post a video of the whole experience. 7. Continue to insist that humans are intelligent.
Al Tinfoil Sometimes there is simply no other option. You have to go and that's it. In my opinion, it is not bad weather forecasting (it was identical in Austria), but the lack of a prior reaction of Italian motorway services.
Artur K Thank you for Video . I have never driven that area so I can not comment about Italian Motorway service or lack thereof . I enjoyed seeing your adventure and the Brenner Pass Route .
This is winter ❄️ nothing strange. Problem was the trucks from eastern and south Europe with summer tires 🤬🤬🤬 See POLAND Truck at 8:48 … why no chains ??? So stupid truckers … wehre should road service Go when all the Highway is full of Trucks.
According to EU road regulations, winter tires are only valid on the drive axle. From 2020 they will also be mandatory on the front steering axle. To be honest, I saw more winter tires on trucks from the east than from the south. This is the climate we have 🙄
Artur K you are Right - but its good sense to have at least chains on board in not winter tires (helping also on non drive axles) Especially when doing routes like brenner pass ...never saw swiss Truckers from CH-Resia with this problems
Ma nn è possibile ció …eh No!!! A 22 dove cavolo erano gli Spazzaneve e Spargi sale. in quelle Zone e in questo periodo son pronti 24h su 24 ad intervenire.
Non ho capito cosa è successo . Non conoscevo questa notizia . Spiego : ho smesso di guardare i tg 5 anni fa ; avevo esagerato ed ero diventato dipendente ,guardavo persino quelli cinesi ..........
Just wander if people realize that that many trucks, every day, are necessary to keep them alive. Every thing else except, : electricity, gas and water, was or will have to be transported by truck so we can go on maintaining our marry go lucky life style. Every day of the year, every weather condition. Big cheers to the truckies of our world.
You are joking, right? How can trucks be stuck in so little snow? Perhaps they were all waiting for the truck ahead to get moving. I did not see any accident. But really that isn't much snow.
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I like how you occasionally showed a map of your location. Gave perspective.
5:50 Ahhhh the familiar sounds of driving on thick ice buildup...... We get that pleasure a few times every winter, and God help you if you don't have a newer vehicle with good suspension. True North Canadian here! great video!
u´ve got blizzards and extremely icy conditions.
Here in Europe, and in the Alps, we have more often wet snow, but often a lot of..
Sand. Always carry a couple of buckets with sand. Trucks dont have a lot of traction, especially if they are not fully loaded. Trucks dont get stuck because they cant push the snow aside, but because they dont have traction. When I was a truckdriver we always carried sand or gravel in the winter. Much easier than the snowchains. I have been stuck on the Brenner a few times, but the easiest solution is to just look at the weather in advance and start a 9 hour mandatory sleepbreak when you hit a snowstorm. Southern Europe only ! Scandinavia you have to learn to deal with the snow. Appropriate tires, practice the snowchains, Coolingtime of tires etc.
But boy it was fun to be a truckdriver :-)
Need there only Finish or Norvegian trucks with their knowin about winter trafic and winter wheels, no problem. I know I am finish and bee there many times when drived 20 years international. Middle european truck had summer wheels, no differential lock and driver no knowin of driving over ice and snow.
Apparently Polish truck drivers are legendary all over the Europe. "If I can't go, nobody will."
in scandinavia they are at least legendary for getting stuck all the time during winter (when nobody else get).
@@keenumdb5194 It's not their fault most of the time, companies don't equip their trucks for winter
@@procyon826 theyre responsible for their vehicle. If the company is shit, dont work there.
Any nationality has have drivers that screw up. If you new the history of the continent, how many times that efn Poland stoped the eastern hordes from invading the rest of you, there would be no efn Europe. Your freedom at the cost of our blood. Joke is on you tamasmalin.
@@georgekusz4221 you drunk again?
Beautiful scenery. I've never been stuck but my brother has. He had a Golf and nearly 2 feet of snow. I did get a little stuck in 1.5 feet, I had bold tyres and eventually managed to get going.
Some snaw there, we get that in Scotland nearly every year, it can block roads in an instant.
Great video.
Wow, thats a lot of snow!
Cool video! :)
Nice to see you here
didnt expect u here
I didn't expect that answer for a trucker out sweden
Well we do like snow ^^
@martin joseph there is Always one...
Super 📹👌 Thanks for these horrible Pictures 🙄❄️❄️ I drive these Street mutch times in summer 🙄🌞👍
Ma in galleria si era sempre col motore acceso?
Wow, had to sit there overnight! So sorry that happened to you, love big storms though!
And the 2018-2019 winter was considered “a below average winter” in the western side of the alps.
I wont argue about that because feb 1 was one of the only days with good snowfall that winter.
Ładnie posypało. Trochę sobie postaliście. Sporo ludzi krytykuje tu gościa z Ostrołęki, że zablokował autostradę. Może trzeba dodać jakieś info, że jednak nie ;) Jaka kamera?
And I thought there were a lot of trucks on the 401.
Scary but glad everyone got out okay. Was it just the snow that caused the entire jam?
Alguien me puede decir que tipo de camara esta utilizando, me gusta la resolucion
Ostro was przysypało!! Współczuję, jechałem tamtędy dokładnie tydzień przed wami!!! pozdr
OK drivers time to wake the frig up and put it in gear...lets go!!
Wow miles and miles of parked Big Rigs..looks like a couple of them will be there until spring..those single axle cab-overs lol. You rarely see C.O.'s in the States anymore. Back in the mid 80's I owned an International C.O. 9670 with a 300 Big Cam Cummins doing flat bed work. It was a great little puddle jumper lol.
I do not speak English,
what does it mean, C.O.'s? OK big truck?
The reason you see so many cab overs in europe is because cities here the roads was built before the invention of cars so they are usually alot narrower than in the states
@@elio067 C.O. stands for "Cab Over" that's when the cab/cockpit sits directly over the engine.
@@rockinrowdy13 Here in Europe an American truck would not stand a chance, our roads are way too small
The one and only reason you don't see other than cab over in the EU is length, ie overall length of the tractor trailer. The restrictions more or less put any other combination out of business apart from novelty and specialty short trailer or loads .
Ganz schön schnelle Fahrt bei diesen Wetterverhältnissen oder täuscht das?
Genau das habe ich mich eben auch gefragt 🤔 könnte natürlich schneller aussehen durch die kamera aber trotzdem iwie zu schnell meiner Meinung nach
@@RaTaTaRAM27 eigentlich machen kameras immer alles langsamer auch der schnee sieht dadurch deutlich weniger aus ist zumindest meine erfahrung!
@@FrankderTyrann dann war er definitiv sehr sehr zügig unterwegs 😂😂😂
Which Camera du you use?
I once sit on M1 in the morning for 3 hours to wait a helicoper. it was Christmas day 2017.
People just get drunk at Christmas then carry on after.
BTW what did you eat? did you go toilet??
I was under the impression that you had to have winter tyres and tyre chains to go over any of the European mountains I know I had to have snow chains going montblanc in winter time and winter tyres so what's the big problem have the drivers gone soft or wot.
Michael Baker - there are no winter tyres for big trucks. Chains - yes, but installed on typical all season tyres. Trucks in USA / Canada are usually 3 axle - one for steering and two for traction. As prices of fuel are drastically higher in Europe, trucks here are two-axle only. And it is much, much less effective I snowy conditions, as there’s not enough traction for a heavy load.
Italy: "Although it is not obligatory to carry snow chains on board the vehicle, they must be fitted when crossing Alpine passes in winter and on all other snow-covered roads in compliance with the relevant road sign. A minimum of one pair of chains must be fitted per vehicle."
Whoot! The map showed how much time the journey would take. It forgot to say add 24 hours to the number. Whew - so many trucks!
They don't salt roads in Italy prior to snow, or..?
One place I would NEVER want to be held up for any length of time would be a tunnell! I would freak out for sure.....
Good think is there is a security Standard here, so there def. is some type of Ventilation System in there
Wow, super filmik. Ale co, to "nasz" kierowca ciężarówki przyblokował? Bo przed nim nie widać stojących aut.
Nasz tylko przez parę minut. Wcześniej stał za całym rzędem ale jak miał ruszyć to utknął. Po kilku próbach wystartowania ściągnęli go na prawy pas. 😬
@@ArturKomorowski Dobrze, że wszystko w porządku, bo w takich warunkach to nie ciekawie, a przed Wami jeszcze sporo kilometrów.
Polski kierowca ciężarówki zawsze myśli, że przez to przechodzi, nawet jeśli wszyscy stoją po prawej stronie. :D
Wouldn't want to be stuck in that tunnel for long with all the fumes.
The authorities made a mistake by not forcing all the trucks to the outer lanes in time. This is the first thing to do, otherwise you get 1 single truck and a 50 km queue of 1000 passanger cars, vans, minivans, SUVs etc. behind it.
Apperently passing is not allowed for trucks this whole Brenner motorway.
Please keep engines on in tunnels, that’s smart
Bersus Actually, it was one of the worst hours I remember in my life. There was a moment I wanted to take my family and walk to the exit of the tunnel. What can you do? Convince dozens of drivers to turn off the engines? Unreal. The only thing that comforted me was the natural draft that probably resulted from the difference in entry and exit levels of the tunnel. A really fucking situation...
@@ArturKomorowski I can imagine. Tunnels are ventilated, but I can immagine that it doesn´t help much
PS The problem is that tunnel fans did not turn up at all. There were 20m ahead of us and they were whirling slowly driven by natural draft. The smell of exhaust outside was unbearable. Only that I have a cabin carbon filter which I switched some time on for a few minutes let us survive somehow. The worst is the helplessness of the situation because you can not do anything unless you leave the car and walk. As I now watch the movie, it does not look scary, but those were really bad times.😬
@@ArturKomorowski we got stuck for 18 hours in the alps a couple of years ago. i know exactly what you mean with scary. you feel helpless and just sit there, nothing you can do. we were all adults, and what keeped me cool was that i knew that there were people there suffering a lot more than me. kids, elderly, sick etc.
@@FrankTheTank395 those tunnel fans can move a lot of air, if they're switched on!
My school class and me were also stuck in this huge traffic jam. We spent 24 hours inside the f*cking bus. Worst day ever
hI Arthur , sounds like u had fun, glad you r home safe
Sure. it’s good that for some time now data roaming in the EU is not ridiculously expensive. We've probably listened to half of the spotify 😂
“what does not kill you makes you stronger”.😎
Why drive a truck in Europe in the winter, if all you do is sit in back-ups like this? We have snow storms in the US but we salt, plow & chain up to deal with it & keep moving . Single screw trucks usually stay in the warmer parts because they get stuck so easy. And we tow & fine drivers that are unprepared to drive in winter conditions.
So I am fully rigged wintry tiers , chains thermal underwear , Coffey same as the 2751 trucks in front of me. Truck 2752 in front as all the same but no chains so is stopped how did my chains help ?
Is that a VW ute in front of the dash cam car? ( In the tunnel, near the beginning)
Yes it´s an VW Amarok
What did I miss? Were the roads icy, that caused everybody to stop? There wasn't enough snow on the ground to prevent anyone from driving at the beginning of the video. Toward the end, there was more snow piled around the vehicles blocking the road, so a plow couldn't get through.
All single screws no wonder they are all stuck?
LOL "DISCORDIA" 5:16.
Exactly.
Arthur, what car did you drive in the video?
TAXI DASHCAMERA RAV4
Thank you!!!!!
imagine that and having just one cigarette.
Ciekawe ile im zajęło udrożnienie i przywrócenie normalnego ruchu na trasie.
Współczuje tak długiej jazdy :/
at 1:15 trafic signs say that you had to leave the Motorway in Brixen... in Italian and in German! but you were stuck between Frabzrnsfeste and Mauls (i recognize in the video...!) so maybe it would be useful to add English either... or using the good old CB - as there might have been also some polish speaking CB'ers on this Road...!
There is always this one guy .. " I am better then all of you I don't even know why you've stopped your trucks I'll keep going !" .. gets stuck like everybody else, blames it on a random fact
The EU tractor trailer combination is unsuitable on icy and snowy roads. In winter in Scandinavia we see a lot of midle- and east european tractor trailers get stuck and and prevents normal truck traffic. The tractor has to be at least one meter longer than the EU-tractor to be safe on winter roads.
Best is a 24 to 25,25 meter combination with a 3 axle truck (6 x 2) and a draw bar trailer.
In Finland we have now 34,5 meters trucks with 76 tons.
Questo non è un disastro di neve. Accade ogni anno in Italia, in Lombardia, in Veneto, in Trentino. La neve è normale e la quantità che si deposita non è particolarmente elevata.
INoltre in febbraio sull'autostrada del brennero, al confine tra Italia e Austria, le nevicate sono fattori naturali che non dovrebbero destare particolari problemi.
I mezzi devono essere attrezzati e si deve essere preparati a questo fin dai primi mesi di Dicembre.
Quindi non è stata una nevicata eccezzionale a creare tutto questo ma l'incuria e l'assoluta mancanza di manutenzione che la società Autostrade dovrebbe e doveva fare. E che invece non ha fatto.
Le colpe sono inoltre degli automobilisti ignari che non hanno osservato la prescrizione di dotarsi di mezzi antisdruciolevoli, catene o pneumatici da neve.
A tutto questo si deve aggiungere l'inadeguatezza delle infrastrutture italiane che, difronte a 20 cm di neve, mandano al collasso una Autostrada e interi paesi e regioni.
Non diamo la colpa a madre Natura. In questi casi Lei non c'entra nulla. Diamo la colpa a chi non ha fatto nulla per evitare tutto questo e chi si è avventurato in mezzo ad una tormenta senza sapere cosa stava facendo.
E da italiano io mi vergogno ad avere un paese di ebeti che non è capace a pulire una Autostrada.
I travel this route many times with Camion Italia side no snow ploughs,Austria side 10+ snow ploughs all winter no problem
Paul Martin how do you drive snow ploughs into that traffic?
The David Germanic efficiency,snow ploughs on the mountain,not in the depot,even with 1M of snow the autobahn is kept clear
@@paulmartin1094 cool.! I know, if there is something the Austrians do well is knodels and snow-ploughing. Btw do the Germanics have snow ploughs that can squeeze to drive beteween and underneath 100s of trucks stuck in tbe snow?
The David no they don't,but it is normal on autobahn if there is a stall or holdup for the trucks to move to the right and cars move to the left,so that there is a clear path for police and emergency vehicles to travel,simple idea but it works very well,unlike other nations were the road is completely blocked with vehicles.
@@paulmartin1094 yes, it's called "emergency lane".
VW pickups we don't have in this country.
There was written that you have to get off the high way. So why did you not got off the highway?
it could've been must worse...there could have been a multi-vehicle crash like the ones in the USA which can involve 50 to 100 cars and trucks during a blizzard.
Pretty much every truck is a the single axle ones, guess not the best for winter driving.
With single axle you have bigger load on it thus better traction in winter conditions to start moving. However it's better to have double-drive-axle when you are already in motion.
Lot better than an un-driven multiple axle for sure.
Not a single truck with chains?!
A good pair of proper wintertyres and some chains is handy in wintertime :/
I don't understand why every truck is single axle drive no traction.They should be bogie drive would have a lot better chance of grip. They should all have chains as well...
Winter tires wouldn't change a thing. February, I had proper brand new winter tires under the truck. Got stuck as well. Little bit of sand and salt under the wheels and voila, good to go.
Some countries using chains on a big roads is illegal.
In finland if you put chains and drive to highway that costs you atleast 170euros fines(170€ is smallest fines here).
On a small roads you can use chains but no big roads.
@@DustySenecal33 In Norway were i live you need to bring at least 7 chains on a truck and trailer during wintertime, and you must know how to use them as well :) And wintertyres are a must of course :)
@@DustySenecal33 This is the law in the whole of Norway. Breaking the law means a ticket( or worse).
I am from India. I like it.
No Disaster here at all just people that can’t drive in snow.
main problem is that in winter on the northern part of the Brennero, a heavy snow can happen anytime. Still the maintenance failed and too many drivers didn't take the necessary precautions (ex. chains)
I wonder why there was no problem on the Austrian side ???
@@ArturKomorowski don't know if just lazy, they were on strike or no money, but not enough maintenance guys were deployed. And a lot of drivers (italians and foreigners) don't give a shit. Considering the amount of italian money this region is hoarding, what happened, is plainly moronic.
@@ArturKomorowski because they are arian
Busco trabajo de trailero con experiencia USA
Wow.. That was crazy...
So Italy has never heard of snow plows? Maybe less vino and more snow plows.
Stai a casa tua e non rompere il cazzo idiota..w l italia
lol :-)))
If too many people get stuck while there is heavy snow "starting"(!!) to come down, the snow plows cant´t pass ! By the way in italy they don´t use ordinary snow plows. We use 4 Wheel drive Lamborghini´s. :-)
@@filippo8195 ha ragione da vendere, con tutti i soldi che prendono sti parassiti statali, e poi non hanno i mezzi per spalare la neve, ma dove cazzo vivi???
A parte il fatto che la Sua risposta è tipicamente “ italiana “ nel senso solo offensiva e non costruttiva, molto poco civile insomma, devo farLe notare che il commento centra il nocciolo del problema.
Impari ad essere obbiettivo è abbandoni questi toni da tifoso di calcio...
And I thought there were too many big rigs on the roads in Southern California! Nothing compared to that mess.
Oh you've never been stuck on the Grapevine in a winter storm? 30 miles of backed up trucks
California probably has as many trucks on their roads as all of eastern Europe. It's way more dangerous in California because none of the drivers there speak the same language, let alone English.
In queste condizioni, i camion devono essere fermati in basso (max Bolzano)... chi si avventura senza equipaggiamento invernale (camion o auto che sia) e blocca il traffico multone da ricordare a lungo... questa è la ricetta svizzera. Se non blocchi i camion prima, come cavolo fai a pulire le strade?
e a Bolzano dove metterli i camion, senza bloccar lì tutto? io sono stato a BZ il dì dopo... un macello, nei pressi della zona industriale e l'accesso all'A22... immagina un po se ci sarebbero stati pure anche questi
Rossdokta Mail in zone di montagna dovrebbero essere previste aree di sosta per i camion in questi casi, da sfruttare magari anche come centri di controllo viario o centri tecnici per il controllo dei veicoli pesanti (visti anche certi rottami di camion dell’est circolanti). Non conosco così bene la zona di Bolzano, ma nella mia zona (sono sulla via per il tunnel del San Gottardo e del San Bernardino, quindi conosco bene le problematiche.
So true, perfect statment😎
whats up with most of the trailers having 3 axles?
European norm
Does seem like an odd combo....single axle tractors and tridem trailers in the mountains in the winter. Looks like they have no chain up laws either.
Same combinations of weight as North America, it's just that those rigs in Europe are designed for tighter maneuvering
Lpl, I guess no one uses chains in the mountains.
Those polish drivers don't even know what chains are
Next morning 50 people dead from carbon monxide poisoning from running engines.
I understand that many countries in Europe (like Austria) require passenger vehicles to have snow tyres in winter months. Does the same applies to lorries?
Thx
- Colorado winter warrior
Yes, that also applies to lorries. The tires aren't the problem here. The problem is that european 4x2 tractors have really shitty weight distribution for driving on snow. Even with chains they're fucked. On 4x2 trucks the fifth wheel is placed in front of the rear drive axle, thus distributing the weight between the rear drive axle and the (not driven) front axle. That's bad. In scandinavian countries as example you will rarely see 4x2. They drive 6x2 with a rear lift axle (middle axle is driven). The fifth wheel is placed exactly above or sometimes even slightly behind the driving axle, putting as much weight as possible on the driving axle once the rear axle is lifted. Norwegian trailers also often have the wheels placed further back because of this, so even more weight is put on the driving axle. Cargo placement in the trailer is also an issue.
а шторм то где?
Vergognoso!! Incredibile non si possa prevedere una situazione del genere.😞
Il problema sono i mezzi sprovvisti di gomme da neve che fanno la differenza, mentre la legge che dice o dotazioni invernali o catene a bordo è sbagliata, bisogna mettere solo gomme da neve!!!!
@@vedransylwiazembo1170 la strada non doveva comunque stare in quelle condizioni. La a22 si trova alle pendici delle Dolomiti, non sulla riviera salentina e siamo a dicembre. Chissà come mai in Austria non c'era neanche un fiocco di neve sul manto stradale... E paghiamo i pedaggi più alti d'Europa. Meglio che sto zitto altrimenti mi bannano dal tubo e mi querelano🤬
@@fecciargento5102 io ho lavorato 2 anni in Svezia sui lastbillar ovvero autotreno di 25,25 metri a 70 tonnellate, li le strade sono le stesse, i mezzi per la pulizia sono gli stessi che ci sono in Italia ma non arrivano a pulire tutto, di neve ce n'è molta di più per non parlare del ghiaccio con le dovuto dotazioni, gomme e catene, non ti fermi mai!! Anche se devi scendere ogni 10 km per mettere o togliere le catene si fa.
Woow... beautiful sunny day. I think you`r all going to the beach. Ma le concessioni della viabilita, che fannp? Rubano i soldi?
Kavaja Music I would love to, even though for a few moments we could sunbathe. It is a pity that in these Alpes heaped up so many hills that cover the sun, especially in winter morning 😎
Looks like they need a Tow Plow to clean them roads off
Ohhh... In den Alpen gibt es immer starken schneefall naja fast immer ...!
Die starken Schneefälle waren ja vorher gesagt aber die Lkw's mussten ja mit Sommerreifen unbedingt weiter fahren 😠😠
Sono di Genova e nell’entroterra nevica parecchio. Gli spazzaneve partono subito e gli autocarri bloccati . La stessa notte sulla Savona Torino sono caduti 40 cm e ci sono stati solo rallentamenti. É scandaloso che certi fatti accadano sul Brennero dove si dovrebbe essere attrezzati !
Hanno tanto la puzza sotto il naso questi mezzi tedeschi alto atesini e sono capaci di lasciar scendere 40cm di neve su un autostrada senza far entrare un paio di mezzi per carreggiata...
Where is the disaster. All i saw was a some little bit of snow and truckdrivers who cant drive on snow. It was not even much snow.
La neve c'era ma ho visto di molto peggio.
das nenne ich eine entspannte Fahrt! nicht immer 300über baba siehe da es geht dochXD
Do European truck drivers know how to chain? Apparently not.
pls explain?
The average truck driver in Southern Europe will never encounter driving conditions like this in their entire lifetime. Why waste money on snow chains when they're incredibly unlikely to be ever used?
At the end of this video you can notice the difference between a civilized country (Austria) and my country (Italy) where people must pay the most expensive tolls in Europe to get stuck in the snow for 24h (or more if you drive a truck) in december on a highway that crosses the mountains.
That really had to suck sitting in that tunnel and breathing all that carbon monoxide
They have a good working ventilation system, but yes you have to live with the smell.
@@swisscarmb isnt it a law in tunnel when u sit more then 2 minutes u have to turn ur engine off?
@@reigo141 Yes it is, and the ventilation is not this powerfull to take away all the exhaust this fast.
Wo ist das?
Am Brenner, A22.
I would hate to be on that in a single axle semi no interlock that would suck especially in short wheel base cab over.
Do u guys always get alot of snow
1. Ignore weather forecast.
2. Ignore road condition reports.
3. Head out on the highway in a snow storm.
4. Get delayed over night in your car.
5. Wonder at having such bad luck.
.6. Post a video of the whole experience.
7. Continue to insist that humans are intelligent.
Al Tinfoil Sometimes there is simply no other option. You have to go and that's it. In my opinion, it is not bad weather forecasting (it was identical in Austria), but the lack of a prior reaction of Italian motorway services.
Artur K Thank you for Video . I have never driven that area so I can not comment about Italian Motorway service or lack thereof . I enjoyed seeing your adventure and the Brenner Pass Route .
This is winter ❄️ nothing strange. Problem was the trucks from eastern and south Europe with summer tires 🤬🤬🤬
See POLAND Truck at 8:48 … why no chains ??? So stupid truckers … wehre should road service Go when all the Highway is full of Trucks.
According to EU road regulations, winter tires are only valid on the drive axle. From 2020 they will also be mandatory on the front steering axle. To be honest, I saw more winter tires on trucks from the east than from the south. This is the climate we have 🙄
Artur K you are Right - but its good sense to have at least chains on board in not winter tires (helping also on non drive axles)
Especially when doing routes like brenner pass ...never saw swiss Truckers from CH-Resia with this problems
Ma nn è possibile ció …eh No!!!
A 22 dove cavolo erano gli Spazzaneve e Spargi sale. in quelle Zone e in questo periodo son pronti 24h su 24 ad intervenire.
Non ho capito cosa è successo . Non conoscevo questa notizia .
Spiego : ho smesso di guardare i tg 5 anni fa ; avevo esagerato ed ero diventato dipendente ,guardavo persino quelli cinesi ..........
Unglaublich
20cm??? Oravska Lesna - winter 2019 -you tube
Minko Misko 5 cm lodu a śniegu po osie tira ...😬
Dai non mi sembra ci sia molta neve
Don't they chain up there trucks in this type of situation there ???
Ich freue mich schon auf solche Staus, wenn man nur noch Elektroautos fahren darf!! Der tot durch Erfrierungen ist vorprogrammiert
Driveing to fast and to close behind. we all know what happens next.
ti polaci jsou všude (y) dobré video.
Just wander if people realize that that many trucks, every day, are necessary to keep them alive. Every thing else except, : electricity, gas and water, was or will have to be transported by truck so we can go on maintaining our marry go lucky life style. Every day of the year, every weather condition. Big cheers to the truckies of our world.
Adele my favorite, have her in my car now.
This is my list night with you 😁😁
I would not feel comfortable stuck in that backed up tunnel. That's a dream situation for terrorists.
Terrorists can't drive in snow. and they would freeze to death if they tried. Lol
a dream situation for your lung you wanted to say. carbonmonoxid does the job, no terrorist needed
Oh Brother 😵
You are joking, right? How can trucks be stuck in so little snow? Perhaps they were all waiting for the truck ahead to get moving. I did not see any accident. But really that isn't much snow.
Sorry buddy for waiting
0:00 Unicon pooped on your map?
Hier fliegen die Titten v
And where is the "Storm"?
it flew a moment ahead of us... I guess so 🙄
Atis banget mesti
Der Amarok hätte auch mal den Schnee von seinem Auto räumen können.
Greetings from Switzerland ❄️
great