I have a stats question, I believe I have 2 aces in this game. One of them being a 1 2 3 that yall failed to get back to the net, does that not count as an ace if your partner does set the ball?
Correct if a set still happens and the hitter gets a chance to hit the ball, even if very out of system, it’s not an ace. It’s just a 1-2-3 missed put away by the hitter. A bit convoluted but I don’t know if it should be tracked as an ace instead.
I assume you’re talking about your serve to Kyle at 4-3? Like should that be an ace, but not Kyle’s serve at 1-1? To me those 2 plays should be tracked the same.
@@kieranroseroundnetI’d definitely say Kyle’s serve to me was more of an error on me since the set was more in system/nhz area but your definition of it makes more sense now. Just curious for when I look at stats on your other vids of how you’d track it
@@thomashamilton1367 yeah obviously it’s very play dependent, I try to eliminate the ambiguity by just doing “did the non-receiver have a chance to set? Yes? Okay. Not an ace.” But I agree your receive was more in system. I didn’t track this play as an error because it’s an off net hit which was slightly due to the set from Emerson.
I usually mark it similarly to how you marked an ace vs. setting error. I know Kieran didn’t specifically track or mark them here but I try to in some games I do stats for. Strong/weak just defines the expectation of the play with the execution of the play. If the play is “in system” and then one of the players botch a set or hit, that’s weak, but if the play is out of system and they get back in system with a great set or crazy hit, that would mark something as strong.
I have a stats question, I believe I have 2 aces in this game. One of them being a 1 2 3 that yall failed to get back to the net, does that not count as an ace if your partner does set the ball?
Correct if a set still happens and the hitter gets a chance to hit the ball, even if very out of system, it’s not an ace. It’s just a 1-2-3 missed put away by the hitter. A bit convoluted but I don’t know if it should be tracked as an ace instead.
I assume you’re talking about your serve to Kyle at 4-3? Like should that be an ace, but not Kyle’s serve at 1-1? To me those 2 plays should be tracked the same.
@@kieranroseroundnetI’d definitely say Kyle’s serve to me was more of an error on me since the set was more in system/nhz area but your definition of it makes more sense now. Just curious for when I look at stats on your other vids of how you’d track it
@@thomashamilton1367 yeah obviously it’s very play dependent, I try to eliminate the ambiguity by just doing “did the non-receiver have a chance to set? Yes? Okay. Not an ace.” But I agree your receive was more in system. I didn’t track this play as an error because it’s an off net hit which was slightly due to the set from Emerson.
Also what defines a strong or weak set?
I don’t actually track strong and weak sets when I do these so I have no clue where the app gets that knowledge.
I usually mark it similarly to how you marked an ace vs. setting error. I know Kieran didn’t specifically track or mark them here but I try to in some games I do stats for.
Strong/weak just defines the expectation of the play with the execution of the play. If the play is “in system” and then one of the players botch a set or hit, that’s weak, but if the play is out of system and they get back in system with a great set or crazy hit, that would mark something as strong.