Cele prefers the attention on these smaller issues that distracts from the true crimes HE IS INVOLVED IN FORENSIC AUDITS ON ALL HOS ACCOUNTS AND DIRECT FAMILY INCLUDING HIS COUSIN IN KZN...
Exactly.... That's the only way they can cry all they want. But to their defense I doubt they vote for ANC anyway it's the gogos in the EC that do.. We are hiding their IDs this time fuck that we are tired
Mense wees versigtig moet nou nie die PA vote, hy werk saam met die ANC. He is in coalition the ANC in 11 to 12 municipalties. Moenie laat hy vir julle a gat in die kop praat nie. Hy het seker gemaak dat hulle in jhg inkom. So skrik wakker mense, wees net versigtig, hulle is gevaarlik.
Im pretty sure Cele regretted organising this imbizo during this season. SAPS & RSA Justice have failed the people big time. ANC must go rest, its time.
The problem is any sound idea in the hands of idiot politicians is doomed to fail. We first need to get competent government in before we can do something as basic as fixing roads let alone impose policy for death penalty.
@@melon9680 I hear you but roads can wait our children are getting killed everyday in gang crossfire here on the Cape Flats and it's been going on for years and that's more important than potholes in upmarket suburban areas
With a salary of about R1,403,000 per annum, averaging at about R117,000 per month, Police Chief Bheki Cele is one of the highest-paid officials. Mr Bheki Cele you should also be ashamed of yourself, useless is not a word for you. You are worse than that.
Hi. Thank you from the depths of our hearts from all the law abifing citizens in South Africa Anoah Park residents. You'lls passion to keep our country free of crime..is written in God's heart..and he hears the riteous.
@@andrevogel1974 HI. Yes..there arr other typing errors..my vision is impaired..and ii never had my specs on..is this aspelling test? I tried to edit the comment and it showed as edited..unfortunately....it is not edited.
@@Tj-vf3ll Who then? I look around and i dont see any good enough party, the DA only wins because theyve done more than most. They could be better if given the chance, but living in SA with so much diversity and butt hurt it must be fking hard to keep sane trying to get people to realize what is most important and vote accordingly rather than faffing over trivial bull.
@@melon9680 do better if given the chance? Are you serious right now. Do you forget it’s roots are from the apartheid era. The DA formally known as NP party was spearhead by the privileged white man. I think they just as dried up as the ANC if not way past over due.
So disrespectful for panelists to be distracted on their phones while these poor people spill their hearts. These are arrogant, disrespectful, heartless actors...
People are lined up to give their opinion of which those on the panel are already aware of. You will be amazed to see how these sessions work. The community raise their concerns which takes up most of the time, then the panel tells them they are working on it. These visits by politicians is nothing new on the Cape flats. We all know the outcome of this kind of visits. Besides, its the wrong panel that was send so government knows what they are doing. If the community tries to fix things, they are breaking the law. Cape Flats CAN but WILL NOT be fixed.
Well look at it like this, the intensity of crime and lack of policing and thieving of funding for schools, community projects, basic maintenance etc. has forced a gathering of real leadership within the community, you have the people needed to run all these things now plan together as if you were to take on that responsibility - the day is fast approaching that the ANC will no longer govern and if you don't have a plan to run your own show, someone worse will take over - likely organised crime.
South Africa is ruled by a gang of robbers, says politician and anti-apartheid activist Dr Allan Boesak in a letter addressed to businessman and former United Democratic Front (UDF) secretary-general Popo Molefe, who had extended an invitation to Boesak to attend the UDF’s 40th anniversary celebration on August 20. In his letter Boesak states: “In 1985, in those state-of-emergency days, I made a poster of the words of African Church Father Augustine. ‘A government that does not know justice is no more than a gang of robbers .’ That was as true in the 5th century as it was in the 20th. It is as true now, in the 21st, under Cyril Ramaphosa and the ANC. We are indeed ruled by a gang of robbers.” He said across the country there was virtually no disagreement on what South Africans were facing right now as a result of governmental mismanagement over 30 years, that something needed to be done urgently, and that South Africans needed to be united and inspired toward action. “So now, some in the ANC realise the enormity of that mistake, for that is the ‘spirit of the UDF’ you are now all looking for. That, however, is the very spirit you have tried to banish, 32 years ago. That is why there are some now regurgitating (in my presence!) the false claim that the UDF was, in actual fact, the ‘internal wing’ of the ANC, its own child, so to speak. “I find that repetition of the old National Party propaganda trope unspeakably cynical, for what does it make you when you are the one who killed your own child? And can people, who never speak of miracles, but rather of ‘the balance of forces’ and their own cleverness, now claim to believe in something miraculous like a resurrection?” reads Boesak’s letter. Boesak said more importantly, a spirit had to find a home. “I do not believe that the spirit of the UDF will find a home in the ANC as it is today. That spirit is indeed desperately needed, but it has to find a home within the people, like in 1983, from all walks of life, across the boundaries of race, pigmentation, religion, language and culture, and like in 1983, outside of institutionalised politics. “Not connected to a factionalised, self-centred, vote-seeking but not people-serving political organisation that since its return has been smothering every possibility for a just, equitable, inclusive, truly non-racial, democratic society, when it reintroduced those despised apartheid racial categories that we had so marvellously overcome in the Black Consciousness Movement and in the UDF.” He said that like everyone else, he had been deeply concerned about the open factionalism in the ANC, the divisionism it caused, and the toxic effect it had on the country’s politics. “This is one of the reasons why I, over the last two years or so, have consistently declined every invitation from that group to speak at their public meetings. I did not want to be associated with any faction in the ANC - not then, and not now.” Boesak said he declined those invitations also because he found that while “Defend our Democracy” were very vocal in their condemnation of former president Jacob Zuma, and rightly so, they were curiously quiet when President Cyril Ramaphosa’s questionable actions began to surface. “I was already disturbed when Mr Ramaphosa blandly began to speak of ‘nine wasted years’ under Zuma when, in fact, he was right there, as deputy president, and as chairperson of the deployment committee, to say nothing of his role vis-à-vis oversight of the state enterprises. “That refusal to take any responsibility at all, while the ANC is so obsessed with ‘collective decision-making’ when it suits them, is a political Pontius Pilate washing-of-the-hands attitude that has now become disastrously ingrained in the ANC. It is a prime example of the pseudo-innocence I talked about already in 1976: the feigning of ignorance while reaping the benefits of abusive power and systemic injustice. “It is the fig leaf for political chicanery and moral recklessness that is the open door to that impunity that has destroyed our people’s trust in our democratic institutions from Parliament to the courts. No wonder his was a ‘dawn’ where the sun never rose,” Boesak said. Yet through all this, in scandal after scandal, “Defend our Democracy” did not say a word, he said. “Certainly no word that the South African public could hear, that could clear away the fog. Not even with, for the country's deeply humiliating allegations of the hidden monies surfacing, and with the Ngcobo Commission stating clearly that the president had a case to answer. “With that scandalous vote in Parliament, I still did not hear a word, saw no call for accountability, or responsibility, certainly no call for public protest action. Was our democracy not then, as it is still now, under severe attack? Those who tried to do their constitutional duty were either publicly debased, intimidated, or suspended. Still, not a word. There are few things so detrimental to the health of democracy as selective indignation.” Boesak said he had noted the reaction of people whenever he spoke, so he now knows that there is almost complete consensus on these matters and the utter failure of the ANC to give meaning to the country’s democracy. “An invitation from the Youth Desk of the Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa on March 21 to speak to their youth on the topic, ‘The Plight of Our Democracy: What Have We Lost?’ just about sums it up. What I wanted to do this time was to get confirmation on my views about this commemoration year and specifically the plans you and your group have for the ‘action’ you envisage,” he said. Boesak said the ANC could no longer hide the fact that it was a factionalised, paralysed party, mesmerised by greed, and hypnotised by its own delusions, chief of which is the myth that it could ‘correct itself’. “But, as the Bible says: ‘Your sins will find you out.’ As the 2024 elections draw near, the ANC has not only run out of ideas, or courage, or vision.” He said the ANC had outrun its nobility, in the process leaving the people behind, as in the picture drawn by the prophet Isaiah, almost 3 000 years ago: “We grope like the blind along a wall … we stumble at noon as in the twilight …” All because “justice is far from us”. Forty years after the formation of the UDF, the question on how to revive the spirit of the organisation was posed and reflected on during a commemorative programme in May. The reflective commemorative dialogue was hosted by the Institute of African Alternatives, Surplus Radical Books and supported by the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation.
I dont like religious people, but nothing he said was religious but just common sense fact and needed to be said. Doesnt make him less of a Human being for wanting whats best for people.
I cannot help but notice this gentlemen sitting on the end of the table is on his phone the entire duration as the community speaks. Thats disrespect showcasing he thinks nothing of whats being spoken
@@lebohangbokako Oh sure because the EFF doesnt shout on podiums about killing people of different races where the DA does. Btw of course your a EFF voter, and we consider you to be among the most idiotic, blind and ignorant people in SA
The man sitting on the left as we face the table has no respect gor the people He has been on his phone for the duration of this discussion. Shame on him.
It's very hard for the garden boy beki cele to run a thing that's too big for his limited capacity upstairs, just like all the other so called ministers.
I agree with you. But then now the community and media will start nonsense stories saying soldiers are killing South Africans remember those ones are not trained to arrest...
The truth of the matter is. Every police officer in a community knows who everybody in the community is. Because of the corruption they will never make these arrests
Im am so tired of hearing all these stories of corruption, no of service delivery , incompetence etc, etc, there okes can't run a country. The have shown us this for the pass 30 odd years. Our beautiful South Africa is just going more backwards each year that passes under the ANC. Its time for change, we can't carry on this way!!!
@@chaukelattovulture106 The ANC spends 10% of SA's GDP on personal protection. that is +- 4.053 billion rand. They own the saps and the saps work for them. Quite clear despite the name.
The more security he needs to commute to our suburbs the more it reflects on his failure. The day he drives in on his own is the day he has succeeded. Clearly he is a dismall failure.
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ANC is dead. Whoever votes for them is also a walking dead 😢
Well the anc is stealing votes the UN must step in to tally the votes and have a close eyes on the anc
,😂😂😂
Sad truth
That's 90% of uneducated black people in South Africa,they still believe that ANC will give them the house that was promised in 1994
I agree
I can tell you now for free. Cele doesn’t give a damn and that’s the sad reality.
All of them including a cleaner in government don't care. These ANC must go.
Cele prefers the attention on these smaller issues that distracts from the true crimes HE IS INVOLVED IN
FORENSIC AUDITS ON ALL HOS ACCOUNTS AND DIRECT FAMILY INCLUDING HIS COUSIN IN KZN...
he is a psychopath
@@SirLMSwartlooooves attention
@@SirLMSwartaudits for all in banking/insurance too
VOTE OUT THE ANC!
Exactly.... That's the only way they can cry all they want. But to their defense I doubt they vote for ANC anyway it's the gogos in the EC that do.. We are hiding their IDs this time fuck that we are tired
@@mattmapuma9575I love that😂😂😂🎉
@@mattmapuma9575 🤣😭🤣
D.A runs the Western Cape yet in white areas they live comfortably,these coloureds deserve what they get from the D.A
Vote ANC out
Vote out ANC🚮
We tired of Bheki
Bheki dus not know 90% where he is he is like biden
🤣🤣🤣@@noone-zm2rl
Well done, Hanover Park!!
The country needs MORE people like this!!😮
which country.
Ek "SALUTE" al die INWONERS van HANOVER PARK. MOENIE INGEE NIE!!!
@@anitaspies7907 gangsters and drug addicts.
Vote out ANC on 29 May 2024
The only way is vote ANC Out. Choose A party who can do the job properly. We are sick and tired. What's happening in South Africa😢😢😢
especially the Afrikaner CEO of ABSA deceased estates over seeing UNPRECEDENTED levels of inheritance theft
@@exposing_massive_banking_crime I hope your able to keep bias and fact apart, as well as to not brush every Afrikaner under the same comb.
@@melon9680 pedigreed names to be audited first...Broederbond...
@@melon9680 I hate a traitor
they want us to WANT the (conservatives to have more authority (ie power) by scaring us all with this sabotage
Watch the useless person at the main table busy on his phone, hiding in eyes hopefully in shame. ANC is a total disgrace to man kind.
Not in shame,he has no heart
He doesn't care. No wil to fix anything. Just there for the salary, not to do their job. Useless!!!
Mense wees versigtig moet nou nie die PA vote, hy werk saam met die ANC. He is in coalition the ANC in 11 to 12 municipalties. Moenie laat hy vir julle a gat in die kop praat nie. Hy het seker gemaak dat hulle in jhg inkom. So skrik wakker mense, wees net versigtig, hulle is gevaarlik.
I thought the same… busy texting away… wow unreal… these clowns are unreal
Even at 13:36, he's still busy swiping away. And then atthe end, he's found something amusing about the proceedings. Who is he?
We cannot be ruled by criminals
Amen
We are unfortunately and SAPS are helping them. That they can't deny.
it's a bitter shame to hear this 30 years after the promises made to SA.
Im pretty sure Cele regretted organising this imbizo during this season. SAPS & RSA Justice have failed the people big time. ANC must go rest, its time.
Haha what have you expect when you look across Africa😂
100%
He's made that helicopter his own transport that's why he's all over the place doing nothing.
Oh boy you tuned him properly. I like the way you pointed at him and telling him to his face how he looks.
This Police Minister must go and our justice system needs to be revamped...bring back the Death Penalty
The problem is any sound idea in the hands of idiot politicians is doomed to fail. We first need to get competent government in before we can do something as basic as fixing roads let alone impose policy for death penalty.
@@melon9680 I hear you but roads can wait our children are getting killed everyday in gang crossfire here on the Cape Flats and it's been going on for years and that's more important than potholes in upmarket suburban areas
Yeah dont want corrupt people sending innocent to hang
Don't worry my people the clock is ticking for the anc
That clock must tick fast
Tragedy is,it's on Afrika Time.
@@ronaldbaatjes2470 lol🤣 spot on
Some rude guy sitting on his phone while people are speaking. Speaks volumes.
They have no respect for the masses.
Also finding something vèry f#@! funny!!!
Tell it like it is 100 % good people! ANC must go.
Crime is out of cotrol in RSA Bheki Cele is failing the country he must go.
Agreed 💯 he should have gone long ago!
he is a failure.
AnC must go
OUT WITH ANC!!!!!!!
Beki cele is the king pin of organized crime he is a gangster him self.. The Anc is organized crime...
It's a crying shame that the people of Hanover Park must live like this!
Politicians are not listening and will never hear the needs of the people. Person on the left still on his phone!
He is just there to fill the space and get a paycheck. Useless and an example of who the ANC is. Useless salary drawers.
its very sad & painful, crime & gangsters & corruptions destroying peoples life🙏
Salute to the last speaker, actually all of them. Such passion. ❤
Amen and Amen Pastor ❤❤❤❤ 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇿🇦
That last lady had me crying so hard 😢 F*** it's too much for people who care vs those that don't. Minister of police is a massive loser.
With a salary of about R1,403,000 per annum, averaging at about R117,000 per month, Police Chief Bheki Cele is one of the highest-paid officials.
Mr Bheki Cele you should also be ashamed of yourself, useless is not a word for you. You are worse than that.
Oh yes!
Double 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That is what is on paper....how much more does he earn UNDER the table?
corrupt people like that have no shame
Cele is the biggest criminal in SA, he is a gangster 🤬🤬
Right now Cele is feeling the heat of communities who are FED UP!
cele is failing every where he must step down his talking toomuch nobubi
Down with ANC,no chance for you in 2024
People complain but still vote for ANC, this coming elections is a test of time to vote ANC out
Reason: average IQ 68
Don't just vote out the ANC.Please don't vote in pretenders to the ANC throne. Don't vote in the MK, EFF and PA Criminals.
Don't also vote for DA
@@mduduzimkhize1653Why?
@@mduduzimkhize1653yes why?
@@mduduzimkhize1653yes why
Because they are backed by Zionist
Vote the ANC out
The un must step in to tallie the voting the criminals anc steal votes to stay in power
Wow, the passion for Hannover
Enough talk now.. fellow south africans its time to act without this useless government
Pastor....I salute you 🥇
It's sad what our coloureds are going through 😢The anc is only looking after the blacks in Johannesburg
So true. 😢
The ANC isn't for the poeple, I hate 'em.
Lol they not even looking out for black people too
We wish
ANC is not for the People.
Coloureds, Black, Indian, Chinese, white.
Hi. Thank you from the depths of our hearts from all the law abifing citizens in South Africa Anoah Park residents. You'lls passion to keep our country free of crime..is written in God's heart..and he hears the riteous.
Don't you mean Hanover Park?
@@andrevogel1974 HI. Yes..there arr other typing errors..my vision is impaired..and ii never had my specs on..is this aspelling test? I tried to edit the comment and it showed as edited..unfortunately....it is not edited.
@@andrevogel1974 a spelling before you go off on me again
Thank you my sister for telling that poephol just as it is
Cele cares about nobody or anything only care about Wasting Money on himself!
ANC must give DA full controll of Policing
Seconded
Never!Not the Devils Advocate. Rather an alternate..
DA? Lol
@@Tj-vf3ll Who then? I look around and i dont see any good enough party, the DA only wins because theyve done more than most. They could be better if given the chance, but living in SA with so much diversity and butt hurt it must be fking hard to keep sane trying to get people to realize what is most important and vote accordingly rather than faffing over trivial bull.
@@melon9680 do better if given the chance? Are you serious right now. Do you forget it’s roots are from the apartheid era. The DA formally known as NP party was spearhead by the privileged white man.
I think they just as dried up as the ANC if not way past over due.
Was the minister awake while these people spoke? Or did he do the parliament 'nod"of a half an hour????
Get Ian Cameron
Ian sou baie trots gewees het op daardie dame🙏🏻
Voetsek ANC
Well said Hanover Park residents! 👍🏻
So disrespectful for panelists to be distracted on their phones while these poor people spill their hearts. These are arrogant, disrespectful, heartless actors...
A whole minister raising gang signs ...cele is a 28
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The evangelist had the guts to say it as it is
I just loved his speech
Those insults directed towards Cele...like water off a ducks back. He probably went home laughing.
Absolutely, he's going to get a pay increase for following orders so well....
Onthou wie die laaste lag😂lag die lekkerste.
Well done people of Hanover Park. Ons stem saam! 👏🙌
Wow strait talk is no insult. If he never heard the truth he heard it now in Hanover Park.
Shout louder you poor poor people
❤
Good for these Hanover Park residents for voicing their disgust with the lack of crime fighting
Such a pity that the camera didn't get a sot of cele's face when the pastor called him out as a general.
OUT WITH ANC. FOOOTSEK
People are lined up to give their opinion of which those on the panel are already aware of. You will be amazed to see how these sessions work. The community raise their concerns which takes up most of the time, then the panel tells them they are working on it. These visits by politicians is nothing new on the Cape flats. We all know the outcome of this kind of visits. Besides, its the wrong panel that was send so government knows what they are doing. If the community tries to fix things, they are breaking the law. Cape Flats CAN but WILL NOT be fixed.
Well look at it like this, the intensity of crime and lack of policing and thieving of funding for schools, community projects, basic maintenance etc. has forced a gathering of real leadership within the community, you have the people needed to run all these things now plan together as if you were to take on that responsibility - the day is fast approaching that the ANC will no longer govern and if you don't have a plan to run your own show, someone worse will take over - likely organised crime.
South Africa is ruled by a gang of robbers, says politician and anti-apartheid activist Dr Allan Boesak in a letter addressed to businessman and former United Democratic Front (UDF) secretary-general Popo Molefe, who had extended an invitation to Boesak to attend the UDF’s 40th anniversary celebration on August 20.
In his letter Boesak states: “In 1985, in those state-of-emergency days, I made a poster of the words of African Church Father Augustine. ‘A government that does not know justice is no more than a gang of robbers
.’ That was as true in the 5th century as it was in the 20th. It is as true now, in the 21st, under Cyril Ramaphosa and the ANC. We are indeed ruled by a gang of robbers.”
He said across the country there was virtually no disagreement on what South Africans were facing right now as a result of governmental mismanagement over 30 years, that something needed to be done urgently, and that South Africans needed to be united and inspired toward action.
“So now, some in the ANC realise the enormity of that mistake, for that is the ‘spirit of the UDF’ you are now all looking for. That, however, is the very spirit you have tried to banish, 32 years ago. That is why there are some now regurgitating (in my presence!) the false claim that the UDF was, in actual fact, the ‘internal wing’ of the ANC, its own child, so to speak.
“I find that repetition of the old National Party propaganda trope unspeakably cynical, for what does it make you when you are the one who killed your own child? And can people, who never speak of miracles, but rather of ‘the balance of forces’ and their own cleverness, now claim to believe in something miraculous like a resurrection?” reads Boesak’s letter.
Boesak said more importantly, a spirit had to find a home. “I do not believe that the spirit of the UDF will find a home in the ANC as it is today. That spirit is indeed desperately needed, but it has to find a home within the people, like in 1983, from all walks of life, across the boundaries of race, pigmentation, religion, language and culture, and like in 1983, outside of institutionalised politics.
“Not connected to a factionalised, self-centred, vote-seeking but not people-serving political organisation that since its return has been smothering every possibility for a just, equitable, inclusive, truly non-racial, democratic society, when it reintroduced those despised apartheid racial categories that we had so marvellously overcome in the Black Consciousness Movement and in the UDF.”
He said that like everyone else, he had been deeply concerned about the open factionalism in the ANC, the divisionism it caused, and the toxic effect it had on the country’s politics.
“This is one of the reasons why I, over the last two years or so, have consistently declined every invitation from that group to speak at their public meetings. I did not want to be associated with any faction in the ANC - not then, and not now.”
Boesak said he declined those invitations also because he found that while “Defend our Democracy” were very vocal in their condemnation of former president Jacob Zuma, and rightly so, they were curiously quiet when President Cyril Ramaphosa’s questionable actions began to surface.
“I was already disturbed when Mr Ramaphosa blandly began to speak of ‘nine wasted years’ under Zuma when, in fact, he was right there, as deputy president, and as chairperson of the deployment committee, to say nothing of his role vis-à-vis oversight of the state enterprises.
“That refusal to take any responsibility at all, while the ANC is so obsessed with ‘collective decision-making’ when it suits them, is a political Pontius Pilate washing-of-the-hands attitude that has now become disastrously ingrained in the ANC. It is a prime example of the pseudo-innocence I talked about already in 1976: the feigning of ignorance while reaping the benefits of abusive power and systemic injustice.
“It is the fig leaf for political chicanery and moral recklessness that is the open door to that impunity that has destroyed our people’s trust in our democratic institutions from Parliament to the courts. No wonder his was a ‘dawn’ where the sun never rose,” Boesak said.
Yet through all this, in scandal after scandal, “Defend our Democracy” did not say a word, he said. “Certainly no word that the South African public could hear, that could clear away the fog. Not even with, for the country's deeply humiliating allegations of the hidden monies surfacing, and with the Ngcobo Commission stating clearly that the president had a case to answer.
“With that scandalous vote in Parliament, I still did not hear a word, saw no call for accountability, or responsibility, certainly no call for public protest action. Was our democracy not then, as it is still now, under severe attack? Those who tried to do their constitutional duty were either publicly debased, intimidated, or suspended. Still, not a word. There are few things so detrimental to the health of democracy as selective indignation.”
Boesak said he had noted the reaction of people whenever he spoke, so he now knows that there is almost complete consensus on these matters and the utter failure of the ANC to give meaning to the country’s democracy.
“An invitation from the Youth Desk of the Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa on March 21 to speak to their youth on the topic, ‘The Plight of Our Democracy: What Have We Lost?’ just about sums it up. What I wanted to do this time was to get confirmation on my views about this commemoration year and specifically the plans you and your group have for the ‘action’ you envisage,” he said.
Boesak said the ANC could no longer hide the fact that it was a factionalised, paralysed party, mesmerised by greed, and hypnotised by its own delusions, chief of which is the myth that it could ‘correct itself’. “But, as the Bible says: ‘Your sins will find you out.’ As the 2024 elections draw near, the ANC has not only run out of ideas, or courage, or vision.”
He said the ANC had outrun its nobility, in the process leaving the people behind, as in the picture drawn by the prophet Isaiah, almost 3 000 years ago: “We grope like the blind along a wall … we stumble at noon as in the twilight …” All because “justice is far from us”.
Forty years after the formation of the UDF, the question on how to revive the spirit of the organisation was posed and reflected on during a commemorative programme in May. The reflective commemorative dialogue was hosted by the Institute of African Alternatives, Surplus Radical Books and supported by the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation.
Boesak nogal nê? The one who embezzled half a million from a widows and orphans fund! 😂😂😂
Boesak's opinion is of no value. He represents exactly what the ANC has become.
I started reading, sounded like socialist rubbish, scrolled to the end & read "Rosa Luxenburg foundation", said to myself "that makes sense"😂😂😂
I wonder how many get your closing comment?
Yip,all part of The Agenda.
What a sad situation. Nothing gets done. They talk and nobody listens.
Cele is heartless this falls on dead ears
Eh the pastor was pastoring
I dont like religious people, but nothing he said was religious but just common sense fact and needed to be said. Doesnt make him less of a Human being for wanting whats best for people.
Don't complain vote the anc out
Oooow!!! Lord please intervene we pray 😢
I cannot help but notice this gentlemen sitting on the end of the table is on his phone the entire duration as the community speaks. Thats disrespect showcasing he thinks nothing of whats being spoken
Bheki Cele is THE BIGGEST criminal of them all. Get rid of ANC
I get the feeling that Bheki is complicit with criminals probably cause he is secretly one.
Well said Hanover Park
God have mercy
Bheki Cele dresses like a mafia boss , was he a police officer ???
Taxi boss
No apparently he was a former teacher..how l don't know because he can't read or speak properly and has zero vocabularies
BEHOEDE DIE VOLK VAN SUID AFRIKA 🇿🇦
Emagine if Anc wins 2024 elections 😢the little that is left of this country will be nomore within a month 😔
Bheki Cele must answer
Get rid of ANC, 30 years is enough to prove how useless they have become
This wasn't even 3 days old since Sunday when this guy said this. Yesterday on Wednesday 17/04/24 a srg was shot and killed with his own firearm
ANC must be voted out! VOTE DA TO #RESCUESOUTHAFRICA 🇿🇦🙏
Da is racist vote eff🎉
@@lebohangbokakodon't talk shit
@@lebohangbokakoya I stem saam time for fresh meat. Never vote for Devils Advocate …
@@lebohangbokako Oh sure because the EFF doesnt shout on podiums about killing people of different races where the DA does. Btw of course your a EFF voter, and we consider you to be among the most idiotic, blind and ignorant people in SA
@@Tj-vf3ll Who are you judging? People in the DA or the DA as whole who acually has done more than most? Make up your own damn mind.
If every south African can have the same passion as this group, I'm telling you we can fix this country in a day
Mina sengenyanyiswa ububi nje kqala lomfan ebulala izwe nx ... I hate this man cele God forgive me
😢😢sorrry yam we all hating him
well spoken! We need more of you in our government! Thank you!❤
This should be logical to the government. We shouldn't have to explain it. THEY DONT CARE!!!!!
A primary school teacher who became a minister of Police, there lies your problem
You serve Bheki cele very well
He's arrogant, pompous and uncaring.
That sign lady is doing her own thing
The man sitting on the left as we face the table has no respect gor the people
He has been on his phone for the duration of this discussion. Shame on him.
It's very hard for the garden boy beki cele to run a thing that's too big for his limited capacity upstairs, just like all the other so called ministers.
Soldiers must be brought to This area, it's tomuch
I agree with you. But then now the community and media will start nonsense stories saying soldiers are killing South Africans remember those ones are not trained to arrest...
The truth of the matter is. Every police officer in a community knows who everybody in the community is. Because of the corruption they will never make these arrests
Cele is the big problem. He is the mafia boss with all the corruption
Im am so tired of hearing all these stories of corruption, no of service delivery , incompetence etc, etc, there okes can't run a country. The have shown us this for the pass 30 odd years. Our beautiful South Africa is just going more backwards each year that passes under the ANC. Its time for change, we can't carry on this way!!!
In apartheid South Africa s police force far smaller then Celes squads kept law n order ,how ???
Ditsem!!! Pastoor se jou se. Ek wens meer pastore, predikante en Biskoppe (hoop ek tik die naam) wil opstaan vir hulle GEMEENSKAPPE 🙌🏻
Weii done I am so proud of you speaking the truth in boldness. I salute you
Keep Bheki Cele out of our areas because he cannot keep the drugs and gangsters out of our areas. 😬
ANC Police.....what do you expect?
It's South African Police Services. SAPS.
Not ANCPS
@@chaukelattovulture106Ummm your not serious wright. The ruling party has the authority over the SAPS🤦♂️
@@chaukelattovulture106 all comrades of the ANC with fokkol qaulifications
@@chaukelattovulture106 The ANC spends 10% of SA's GDP on personal protection. that is +- 4.053 billion rand. They own the saps and the saps work for them. Quite clear despite the name.
@@chaukelattovulture106 with the Cele cadre well underqualified
😢.... Civilians under siege by criminals and saps is just looking away.
The person on the left hand side is not listening he is busy on the phone.
After the ANC is out, I want Bheki Cele to be the 1st one to be investigated theres a lot need to be answered
Well Done to the people of Hanover Park .They spoke well 👌👌👌
The more security he needs to commute to our suburbs the more it reflects on his failure. The day he drives in on his own is the day he has succeeded. Clearly he is a dismall failure.
Yes I agree with all they say. Wow it's awesome that they say their say. Crime and corruption is all over. Starting from the top of the ANC.
Why do they get a interpretor that doesn't understand Afrikaans