I worked for one of the rental car outfits and can tell you that Ray is exactly right; the better conditioned cars are sold directly to the public on the rental car owned lots and the not so great cars are sent to the auction. Toyota's always have rug issues(worn thru) as Toyota never supplied mats. Kia and Hyundai interiors stained like crazy and we could never get them clean. Stay away from the luxury/high end SUV's as they were driven by idiots who would never be able to afford one in the real world. And drove them like they were pissed about that. They most always came back trashed and many times with damage. And forget mini-vans; those came back in looking like they were used as a garbage truck. Disgusting. As far as service records, yes they were tracked in the computer system and if the car was overdue on service, we were unable to rent it out until it had been serviced. Damage and crashes will not appear on CarFax as we were self-insured so no reporting was done. Every car put up for sale has had some damage done to it, might be minor paint or dents/panel replacements. Cars with super low mileage (generally cars were held in the fleet for around 40,000 miles) like 25,000 probably had mechanical issues and are dumped early.
I spoke to a mechanic about purchasing a used 2017 Subaru with 11,000 miles. He said, be very concerned about really low mileage cars, probably been sitting ...cars need to be driven....probably mechanical issues...etc.
Carfax can be manipulated. You can have an accident that you don't report and have an independent mechanic work on it. Carfax is useful but not infallible.
G Vogt You Nailed It! I purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma from what I thought was a reputable dealer who did not disclosure major underbody damage. The carfax report I purchased at the dealer did not pick it up. I ran another report post purchase and, after having paid out a ton of money to fix the issues, the subsequent alternate report revealed what carfax had not.
My parents bought a 2005 Dodge Neon from Enterprise back in 2007, then signed it over to me before my father died. I still have it and have had very little trouble with it.
I use to work for Hetz. We did not mess around when it came to service and maintenance on our cars. Cars would get regular oil changes . And if it needed tires or anything, that was taken care of to. I think buying a rental car is safe. The only ones I would stay away from are the high performance cars or anything with a hemi. People would generally dog those type of cars out. Yea we would service them but I'd be very careful about buying ones like that
I bought a car at a dealer that had been a rental car. I've had it for 6 years now and never had one single issue until last month I needed a 1200 repair, it has 212,000 miles and was a Hyundai Genisis. But other than that I've had zero issues. But it's about time to buy a new one which is why I"m here :)
I worked at a large dealership in Texas for around 6 years and I can tell you from the behind the curtain almost 100% of our certified pre-owned cars we're brought in from rental car companies. So if you're buying a certified pre-owned chances are you're buying a rental car.
Thank you for the kind words that was really nice. I am not often moved by comments but this one really, really means a lot to me. Thank you and stay safe, Ray
Currently looking at buying a one year old ex rental, and read all these comments. 50% would never buy one, 50% did buy one and it was a great trouble free car. Not seeing anyone comment that they did buy one and found it to be a nightmare.
We've purchased a couple of rental cars from directly from the rental agency and from other dealerships. You can save thousands of dollars buying a car that way. The majority of them are in pretty good condition, but you also need to do your homework before you buy. No matter who you buy a car from, it's always buyer beware!
My brother just purchased a 2019 Dodge Durango GT with 15K and saved over 4K. He got it from Hertz in great condition. He also took it to the dealer and had it checked. Everything was ok with the vehicle
There's a pretty obvious difference between a rental sports car/luxury car and say a Camry. Nobody drives a Camry any harder than they would if they owned it. At one time you could get a better price at the Hertz dealership than at a regular dealer.
I would love to know the answer to your question. High unemployment, working at home, thousands of rentals added to the used car market, staying @ home for months, family’s not taking vacations, schools closed, and used car sales hotter then ever? Why?
I worked for Hertz and Enterprise, and you asked what cars go to a car lot versus what cars go to the actual Hertz or Avis lot. The rule of thumb for Enterprise is the top 10% of the cars goes to company lot. They are selling the cars to there customer base so they only sell the good ones. Also rental car maintenance on cars are very good. For both Hertz and Enterprise cars have to have oil changes done when they are due or the system will not allow you to rent the vehicle. Hertz has a rent to own program where you can rent the vehicle you want to buy for 3 days and then buy it after the 3 days. It’s better than a 20 minute test drive you get at dealerships. Also cars that are not the top 10% will usually be sent to car dealerships.
I just went on a 1300 mile car trip in a Charger from Enterprise. As for myself, it was 99% highway driving, and when I did drive it in the city, I didn’t rag the car at all. I would definitely buy a rental. Specifically, comfort 4 cylinders like a Camry or Sonata. Nobody is going around doing burnouts in a Camry.
CF accident reporting comes mainly from crash reports thru police records which are public information. Provided that the Authority utilizes the VIN in their reports which most do now. Information provided is limited and vague. Title info such as Salvage etc comes from BMVs,again public info. Insurance related info would not be obtainable as it is confidential. If a rental vehicle is involved in a crash which is reported to the authorities with it's VIN, CF will likely show it.
Bought a used car from a dealer in 2007 turned out it was a rental. Bought one 2019 direct from Avis and saved a couple grand. Both were good cars but they also are Toyota's. PS. the dealer told me it was a rental because I asked plus 33,000 miles in a one year old car is a good hint.
I bought my 2015 Toyota Corolla LE, in 2016, also with *33,000* miles on it (directly from Hertz, BTW). Got the car for $14,400 out the door (inclusive of the 9% CA tax), which I believe was a great deal! The car now has approx. 122,000 miles on it and I've had ZERO issues with it. The same exact car would have cost 2 to 3 grand more at a dealer!
How did you like Avis ? I’m debating to go through that rental company to buy a Kia Soul 2019 plus ! Thanks :) any issues so far? Pros or cons any and all advice is appreciated
I work at Hertz and spend a substantial amount of time ferrying vehicles to Firestone or Midas for oil changes. The rental company is not going to neglect maintenance on a $60K Tahoe or Range Rover.
Rented a car from enterprise for a family road trip. The change oil light come on after about a hour of driving. I wasn't going to have it affect my vacation and put another 900 miles on the SUV before returning it.
I bought a used 2006 Dodge Durango (Rental) with 25,000 miles in July 2006. It was owned by a Car Rental Co in Tulsa, OK and I bought it from a Dodge dealership in Arkansas. After less than 10,000 miles the differential began to be noisy and I took it back to the dealer because it was still under warranty and I had purchased an extended warranty. Discovered that the differential had been under water and that the car was in New Orleans, LA when the Catrina Hurricane flooded New Orleans. The dealer replaced the differential and completely restored to like new condition. I just wanted to share this story about unknowns when purchasing a rental vehicle.
I've bought two rentals before. Both gave me no problems at all. Both had lower mileage and the company took the initial depreciation hit. I got great deals on both. I would stay away from higher mileage ones, any "performance" ones (Mustang, Camaro, etc.) because those get beat to shit, and anything Nissan!!
We have owned two Ex rental cars and both were excellent cars. Bought direct from Avis and Hertz. They were fine! I used to rent a lot of cars and I never abused one. Car Faxes are not the Bible and they can queer the sale of an otherwise nice car. Not all service records are posted and not all accidents are noted.
Several points: 1) There are many corporate rental fleets where the driver drives 30-45k miles per year. When I was a corporate fleet manager, these would go to the auction after 36 months unless someone in the shop wanted to buy it. 2) Hertz has a 3 day test drive where you can take the car out. At the end of 3 days, you buy the car or pay for the rental. This allows you to take the car and get it inspected by YOUR person and drice the car in all the ways you plan to. IMHO, this sure beats the test drive you get on most used cars at a dealership. In addition, Hertz gives you a one year powertrain warranty in addition to the balance of the OEM warranty. 3) I have bought vehicles from my fleet, from Hertz, and from Avis. I have had no problems with any of them. They are at least as reliable as the ones I purchased from the dealership. 4) There are several ways you can tell a rental. Sometimes, rental car companies require additional equipment (such as a collar around the steering column on certain GM models. Also, look for scratches in the trunk area. 5) The only way to avoid buying a former rentalc ar is to stick to models that sell very few cars to fleets - Honda, Acura, etc.
Can you do a video on "pre-purchase inspection" for a used car? How to go about it, when to mention it in the process, how much time you may have to get it done, how to pick a mechanic, what to ask the mechanic, how much it may be. How is this done during corona?
Its just like with any other used car, its luck of the draw for the most part. Personally I bought a 2006 Dodge Grand caravan that was a retired rental vehicle back in 2007 with 32,000 miles on it and have only had minimal issues with it over the next 13 years, it now has 132,000 miles on the original untouched engine/transmission and I still drive it every day.
Ray Emanuel haha I rented a 5 speed Nissan 300Z on my honeymoon in Maui in 1986 and “learned” on that car ! Crunched gears for a bit ! I’m the exact reason I would never buy a used car rental vehicle ! Hey I was 22 years old and learned on it, but got the hang of it pretty quickly.
I bought '86 Chevy Nova (Corolla) from Hertz in the day. Drove it for over ten years. I had no issues or complaints. BTW You guys should switch back to sitting on the other sides.
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix former rental from a dealer lot. It was classified as a lease back return and dealer disclosed it was a rental. It had a year left on the 3 year factory warranty so I figured that took a lot of the risk out of it for me. The factory warranty included roadside assistance too. Dealer showed me their paperwork for repairing the brakes. It ended up being a good car with no issues. Just make sure a former rental still has some factory warranty to protect yourself.
I bought a couple cars that started life as rentals they are holding up very well. I did have to replace tires pretty quick they where very cheap quality.
I used to work for Enterprise. You are correct about Rental company used car inventories. Enterprise keeps the nicest inventory for themselves. They send the vast majority to auction.
It is true that many rental company’s are self insured and don’t report to Carmax, etc. The quality of the work can be as good or as bad as anywhere else. It all depends on who’s doing the work.
I bought a 1988 Buick Regal Coupe from Avis in 1989. Everybody said I was nuts to save $6500 over the same model new from the Buick dealer, because a rental car is junk. They were right. I only drove the car for 18 years, did very little to it and only sold it because I wanted a new car!
I bought a car from a dealer and found out when I got home a “Budget rent a car” paper work under the front seat. It was a great car, no problems but I wish I knew.
Same. After purchasing from a Toyota dealer I would have thought it would have fresh filters oil change. NOpe took it in for oil change and the air filter was so dirty and full of leaves!! Made me mad.
Its interesting that the comments from people that bought a rental car are 99% positive but the negative comments are people that would "never" do it and so have no actual experience. I bought a 2005 minivan on Jan 1 2005 with 15k miles saved $7,000 it was a great car. I would do it again. I would never pay retail for a new car just too much $$$.
Is it true that Carmax lists all former rentals as “fleet vehicles” so you can’t tell if it was a rental, or a limousine service or company owned vehicle. Is there any way to get to the truth of which group it came from?
Most car dealers are thieves. I once was gonna buy a car from a well known local dealer. The car had clean car fax. I took it to a body shop and they showed me that the whole rear fender had been fixed!!! Rest of dealers are worst
Carfax is a joke and only the dealers that pay them get to report to them. That is why on the carfax they have a good rating of the dealer... Lifeprotip
I bought a 2007 Impala in November of 2007 with 12,500 miles on it. During haggling the salesman says "my friend traded it in, would you like to talk with her?"... I said yes & spoke with the lady. Everything seemed good I bought it. A few years later I got a letter in the mail saying my car was in a class action law suit... It was a HERTZ rental car!!! Luckily It has been a great car which I still own & has 205K on it. Original engine & transmission!
We’ve have several old rentals in our lives, probably a few we didn’t know about. I usually discovered this by finding some reference in the owner manuals/documentation that came w/ the car. Mechanically, all of them were fine, if not very exciting to drive.
In December 2020 I bought an Ex mobility car these cars are on leace when I got it did 20,000 miles I've got it up to 76838 miles every two or three years these cars go to auction my car was bought from used car dealership
Ray I must be down right lucky. In 1999 my wife wanted to trade cars and so we took her 1985 Nissan Maxima to the Toyota Dealer and she found a 1996 Toyota Avalon XLS that she liked and it had 27,000 miles on it and I looked it over and from what I could tell it was in good condition. The test drive went well so we bought it. About six months after we bought it I was doing an oil change and fluid check, Air Filter and the usual routine maintenance that I do myself. In the paperwork that was in the glove box I found a paper that told me that it had been a Hertz leased car. My wife likes the car to this day even though she retired from the work force in 1986 so she does not drive much. Today the Avalon has 81,000 actual miles and the Michelin tires have less than 30,000 miles on them but because of the age of the tires the Discount Tire Store where we bought them told me about a year ago that because of the age of the tires they could no longer rotate them so I will drive them until they give up or I get 50,000 plus miles on them. We have not had a car payment on this Toyota since 2002 and the few times that I have had to take it in the maintenance cost average less than $1,500.00 every 5 years. The insurance company will only give us liability because they said it is not worth enough to warrant full coverage. The car has been garage kept since we bought it and still looks great and drives like a dream. I drive it once a week just to keep the fluid moving and to keep the battery charged. My wife is thinking about getting herself another car but she has only driven her car herself 3 times in the past 2 years. If and when she wants to go anywhere I drive and we go in my Toyota 4 Runner. I am not sure if she is really going to trade it off or not but I don't see a need to do so knowing she will only drive her self once or twice a year if she absolutely has to. I do enjoy your channel and I have learned a lot about the car business from you and your son. Just in case you are curious my 2007 4 Runner Limited has almost 120,000 miles on it. I bought it new after I retired in 2006.
I purchased a vehicle from Enterprise. It had moderate miles, about 35k, was in excellent condition, and was very happy with it. I'd recommend keeping them in mind when used car shopping.
Enjoy your videos. I bought a 2016 Camry from Hertz and I thought it was a great deal, thousands less than I would have paid at a dealership. I got a pre purchase inspection from a mechanic I trust which checked out. While it was a little higher mileage when I bought it, it was really in good shape and it was a toyota so I wasn't too worried about it. Unfortunately about a year later I moved overseas and had to sell the car quick. While I lost money on the sale, I had several toyota dealerships that wanted it to flip as a certified used model. I eventually settled on a local dealer with the highest bid (an urban dealership focused on certified used toyotas). I'm confident if I had kept the car it would have been a great car for many years.
Buy trucks or minivans. Both are less likely to be abused. Trucks because the rental companies don’t allow towing and minivans because people are less likely to drive crazy with the family in the back. Accident repairs usually don’t get reported to CarFax by self insured companies like Enterprise.
I worked at a Lexus dealership for many years. They use to get cars from auctions to sell as used cars. Repos , rentals, and trade ins. In the end. You never know what you will get when you buy used period.
I serviced Hertz’ rental fleet for two years. Don’t buy a used rental car. You have no clue what people put a fully insured car they don’t give a shit about through.
Jerry before i think the car rental company have some sort of sticker etc. However few years back they already remove all sort of that. For the security of the renter. Against car break in, crime.
In 1995 I bought a used Ford Thunderbird "program car" from the local Ford dealership (clue #1-the moniker). It had approximately 25-26k miles on the odometer (clue #2 - mileage like a lease). The stamped body tag /plate (on the radiator bracket) had HERTZ (clue #3 - the obvious). Later, the ignition key stopped working so I took it to another dealership (I moved away) for a warranty repair. Manager called to complain - they refused to warranty the item after encountering a tamper-resistant anti-theft steel plate shroud/device riveted around the steering column. They said it prevented them from accessing the lock cylinder. I told them to eat it because as far as I knew (and I was 99.99999% sure of it), it was OEM Ford.
I’m not sure if it’s still true, but a cousin worked at Enterpise. He said they sold cars that had been in accidents to auction. Clean cars they sold themselves. Usually the repairs done to their cars are very poor quality.
U tripping why not ? Way cheaper then actual other dealers , and most ppl rent a car for less then a week. And the rental company do all the maintenance work . Just asks for records and you should be good ! I’m looking to buy a car from them next year !
True story... My mother once rented a car and hit a mailbox or something and totally messed up the side of this car. Well, my grandpa found parts the same color at a junkyard. While he was installing the junkyard parts on that rental car, he looked at me and said son, this is why you don’t buy a used rental car.
When buying a rental car keep in mind the manufactures have a separate assembly line for the rental car companies where certain item are not installed in the car. For example I was looking at a chevy cruze for my son and it didn't have a back up camera which was standard for that model (LT2). In addition I was looking at a 2018 Nissan maxima ans the rental car lots did not have rear usb chargers where a Maxima that was not a previous a rental has them. Check the manufacture for the standard installed equipment.
Can go both ways. Camry LE of a certain vintage did not come standard with alloy wheels but Hertz paid to put them on. The only negative thing you can say for sure about a rental is it won't smell like a new car.
I LOVE that this has come up as Hertz is moving sone 2-3 yr old EV's and the media is calling it a terrible sign!! Rental fleets turn their inventory over every 2-3 yrs, that's what they do! When's the last time you rented a car with 60k+ miles on it? That's what their selling, 2-3 yr old, high mileage, inventory. Buyer beware on THAT level....EV's are fine.
Hertz rent-to-buy experience: Right before the WSJ article came out, I went online and picked out 2020 Caddy XT5 w/ 8833 miles. No pictures of car. Got car 2 days late due to rental return, with 541 more miles on it. NO price negotiation when mileage is below 1k difference. Car had no spare, but car does have a sealant and air pump, it was also missing the switch on the steering column to adjust the steering wheel. Crazy right? Car was like new otherwise, no damage (had inspected by a body shop, drove well (brakes, alignment, etc.) and all mechanicals/electronics work as expected). Comes with balance of Caddy warranty and also comes with Hertz 12mth drive train warranty. Given that Hertz maintain their cars per spec, and price diff of ~2K less than dealer, worth the 3 day rental to try out. Called Hertz - they gave me an adjusted price due to these missing items and I'm satisfied. Given above, felt comfortable and bought car and feel that I got a good value. Only comes with 1 key too, why, IDK, but this is a known when buying a car from rental company. Key can cost >$100 without programming. Happy with my purchase so far.
1. Can one differentiate between a rental, company car, or a dealer's service loaner or any other "program" car based on verbiage used on a VIN report? 2. Words said in the video, but maybe overlooked: get an independent pre-purchase inspection no matter who purchased from! 3. Service on rentals may NOT always be regular or on-time; because if the car is needed, its maintenance will be put off. Money spent on maintenance and repair will be the least possible. 4. There is probably some kind of rule to position the Interviewee in a way that they are always facing their camera!
There is a reason they dump the cars. They are worn out from the abuse and skipped maintenance. Every rental that I’ve been in with 40k miles is worn out.
Some years back when I was an inexperienced buyer and very young I went to a dealership and purchased a car. The Avis car rental was right next door so I was always told rentals were good cars to buy because they were well maintained. The car I purchased from the dealership was a previous rental, and they had no problem telling me that. I can honestly say it was a good car and had no problems with it. I was really lucky that it obviously wasn't beat on like a lot of rentals are. Now I would probably never purchase a rental car, and I would never purchase an auto without having my mechanic check it over before purchasing. I agree that I believe the better rental cars are probably at the Dealerships, and the junkers are at the auctions. Keep up the good work guys🌟
NEVER!!! Only an IDIOT WOULD BUT RENTAL CAR!! Those cars n SUV’s are beat up to the max. Just think: How many thousands of ppl drove thirst cars?? They are very low maintained by the rental company.
Most of the comments on this blog gives one the impression that people rent cars JUST for the thrill of beating the crap out of them is TOTAL BULLSHIT. When I rent a car or get a "service loaner", I care about one thing only, getting from point A to point B. Abusing a car that you do not own is just a display of immaturity!
Michael Collings just look at the first year mileage, anything over 20k, and it was very likely a rental car, anything over 30k, and it definitely was a rental
Know that rental car have had the shit beaten out of them, even if it was only a rental for a year it was worked over hard, people who rent cars don't care about them and rental companies only do bare minimum maintenance, if that . Also keep in mind if the car was ever wrecked you wouldn't know because the majors are self insured and repair the car themselves, CarFax never gets the report. CarFax is a scam, never put all your trust in that piece of bullshit paper
I got one of those rental cars once that was repaired poorly in house. After I had it for a few weeks, I realized that it had been T-boned. Not one of my better purchases. I would not do that again.
There is absolutely nothing wrong it’s a rental resale from the big boy companies. BUT.....NEVER buy a sports car with a past rental history. People beat the crap out of them. Trucks and luxury aren’t typically beat up.
Leo C. I just wrote same then Saw your comment definitely need a wrist check seems like a lot of car people have more then one interest.... well at least most...👍
Q. Why do rental agencies sell their cars? A. Because it encourages car manufacturers to make new cars. For real? Basically they do it to stimulate the economy? Sir, I don’t think so. I think they get rid of their cars around an average age / mileage out of their own best interests, which is calculated to be before the point at which they start costing the agencies to maintain them when putting on miles at rental agency rates.
There is a web site for most manufacturer's that you can put in a VIN number and get a copy of the new car sticker. It will show it was sold to a rental car company direct. It will show you the suggested MSRP also. Again was told this about 5 years ago by a friend and I did look it up on line and tried it. It did show rental company on sticker. There is no cost for looking this up .
Worse than a rental car is the ex learner driver cars in the UK it used to have a different company name on the title for example R, s, engineering to hide the fact
A full time pizza delivery driver can easily put 40k on a car in a year. I've had 7 Corollas in my lifetime. The only one that didn't go way into the 200,000 mile range was one that I bought that had been a rental car.
Has there ever been a study to determine if people actually abuse rental cars? Ther entals I've had i just drive like i always do. I think you may be making unfounded assumptions.
If you work in a car rental company and is low enough in the totem pole, you will see some rental horrors you cannot fathom exactly what happened. Not all people abuse rental cars, but a lot of people don't give a damn how they drive the car just because they don't own it. For example, using a regular AWD car off road when the car is not meant to be driven there. And since they don't care, they might even speed up a little bit. It won't create a short term or noticeable damage but it might in the long run long after the rental company sold the vehicle. 🚙
Let me tell you about the car I bought in 2010 and still have it. You would never recommend a person buy a car with this history but it has turned out wonderfully. My father in law bought a new Buick Lucerne in 2006 and in 2008 I took him to the airport and drove the car almost 200 miles. I loved the way it rode. So I started looking for one that was wrecked because that's what I do or did------I fixed totaled cars. Never had a car payment in my life. Well, I didn't find a wrecked one but I did found a silver 2008 Lucerne that had been in a minor flash flood. Now normally you run from a flood car but this one you could see the water line on the cardboard license plates the dealer had while on his lot. Yes, it was a rental bought by a Buick dealer and his used car lot got 13 inches of water in his lot. I saw no signs the water entered the interior. I checked it over pretty good and couldn't believe they would "total" this car as flood damaged but I guess since the wheels sat in a foot of water for several hours the dealer's insurance company designated all the cars in the lot as flood damaged. It was up for auction on................ebay. Another great place to buy a car! The car had the motor I wanted (3800) and had 28,000 miles. I checked all the fluids, put it up on a rack and I couldn't find anything wrong with it so I became the high bidder at $9000 and drove it home to MI from Valdosta, GA. So, I bought a car that was previously a rental and had a salvage flood damaged title. It now has 145,000 miles and has been trouble free. I do keep up with maintenance religiously but the car has been great. I recently was at a crossroads--------do I put new tires on it or sell it? After talking with my wife we put four new Michelin's on it. Call us crazy but we like the car so we are keeping it. Still looks good and runs excellent. I can tell you guys like your Eurotrash. Why, I don't know. Expensive to purchase and if you don't trade it off in 2 years very expensive to fix. Enjoy the prestige of driving that stuff. I'll wave to you at the dealership on my way to the beach. Actually, I am no fan of domestic cars either. I'd rather own a Japanese or Korean car. And your Volvo!!!!! Chinese piece of crap. A sorry ending to what used to be a great car company that built cars like tanks. My son lives there in the Northeast and, of course he had to have a Mercedes and she an Audi. Oh, they tell everyone they just love the cars but I have heard both of them lament about the cost of not only repairs but routine maintenance. Looking cool and driving a "I made in life" car comes with a cost. One that I will pass on. Give me my Ram pickup and her Buick Lucerne. Oh, if you want to know, we will be buying a Toyota when the Lucerne is retired.
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Am I the only one who actually drives more carefully in the rental car because I'm more careful with other people's stuff?
i'm afraid of the $400 damage charge
Yes, you weirdo.
Yes, you are
Yes... you're the ONLY one.
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I worked for one of the rental car outfits and can tell you that Ray is exactly right; the better conditioned cars are sold directly to the public on the rental car owned lots and the not so great cars are sent to the auction. Toyota's always have rug issues(worn thru) as Toyota never supplied mats. Kia and Hyundai interiors stained like crazy and we could never get them clean. Stay away from the luxury/high end SUV's as they were driven by idiots who would never be able to afford one in the real world. And drove them like they were pissed about that. They most always came back trashed and many times with damage. And forget mini-vans; those came back in looking like they were used as a garbage truck. Disgusting. As far as service records, yes they were tracked in the computer system and if the car was overdue on service, we were unable to rent it out until it had been serviced. Damage and crashes will not appear on CarFax as we were self-insured so no reporting was done. Every car put up for sale has had some damage done to it, might be minor paint or dents/panel replacements. Cars with super low mileage (generally cars were held in the fleet for around 40,000 miles) like 25,000 probably had mechanical issues and are dumped early.
Carl thank you for your insights, I am sure that our audience is as appreciative as I am . Stay safe, Ray
This is helpful, was thinking of buying a low mileage car from a rental used car lot.I am now second guessing this. Thanks
Thank you for the information Carl! Much appreciated.
I spoke to a mechanic about purchasing a used 2017 Subaru with 11,000 miles. He said, be very concerned about really low mileage cars, probably been sitting ...cars need to be driven....probably mechanical issues...etc.
This probably just saved me a bunch of headache. Thank you!!!
Carfax can be manipulated. You can have an accident that you don't report and have an independent mechanic work on it. Carfax is useful but not infallible.
G Vogt You Nailed It! I purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma from what I thought was a reputable dealer who did not disclosure major underbody damage. The carfax report I purchased at the dealer did not pick it up. I ran another report post purchase and, after having paid out a ton of money to fix the issues, the subsequent alternate report revealed what carfax had not.
My parents bought a 2005 Dodge Neon from Enterprise back in 2007, then signed it over to me before my father died. I still have it and have had very little trouble with it.
Because nobody rents dodge neon so your parents were smart to buy that car from them and not a camaro
8avexp LUCKY YOU!!!! I worked 4 NATIONAL CAR RENTAL.... WE USED DOG THOSE CAR OUT....
I bought a 08 Impala from Enterprise in 2010, still have it runs good.
@@tobykenobe My dad bought a 2007 Nissan Sentra like 5 years ago from Enterprise or something. Now he has a 2012 toyota camry.
I use to work for Hetz. We did not mess around when it came to service and maintenance on our cars. Cars would get regular oil changes . And if it needed tires or anything, that was taken care of to. I think buying a rental car is safe. The only ones I would stay away from are the high performance cars or anything with a hemi. People would generally dog those type of cars out. Yea we would service them but I'd be very careful about buying ones like that
Well I was told they use the cheapest oil in rentals!
I bought a car at a dealer that had been a rental car. I've had it for 6 years now and never had one single issue until last month I needed a 1200 repair, it has 212,000 miles and was a Hyundai Genisis. But other than that I've had zero issues. But it's about time to buy a new one which is why I"m here :)
I worked at a large dealership in Texas for around 6 years and I can tell you from the behind the curtain almost 100% of our certified pre-owned cars we're brought in from rental car companies. So if you're buying a certified pre-owned chances are you're buying a rental car.
In your opinion are the certified by a dealer better cars than from the rental company direct?
@@erics3527 good question.
Does the dealer do any maintenance or repair before posting them as CPO ?
Sorry Ray, but your best side isn’t your left side ...or right side. It is inside! Thanks for the insights, stories, and banter with Zack. Regards.
Thank you for the kind words that was really nice. I am not often moved by comments but this one really, really means a lot to me. Thank you and stay safe, Ray
Currently looking at buying a one year old ex rental, and read all these comments. 50% would never buy one, 50% did buy one and it was a great trouble free car. Not seeing anyone comment that they did buy one and found it to be a nightmare.
I like that Ray doesn't look at the camera. It's more natural--like we're watching a conversation.
We've purchased a couple of rental cars from directly from the rental agency and from other dealerships. You can save thousands of dollars buying a car that way. The majority of them are in pretty good condition, but you also need to do your homework before you buy. No matter who you buy a car from, it's always buyer beware!
I’m the same as you. No matter who’s driving the car - you always treat it as if it’s your own…
I bought a year old 40k miles mazda 6, drove it for 5 years with zero problem and after that end up leasing 8 mazdas for me and my dad. Love MAZDA :)
My brother just purchased a 2019 Dodge Durango GT with 15K and saved over 4K. He got it from Hertz in great condition. He also took it to the dealer and had it checked. Everything was ok with the vehicle
There's a pretty obvious difference between a rental sports car/luxury car and say a Camry. Nobody drives a Camry any harder than they would if they owned it. At one time you could get a better price at the Hertz dealership than at a regular dealer.
So why are used car prices crazy high right now?
I would love to know the answer to your question. High unemployment, working at home, thousands of rentals added to the used car market, staying @ home for months, family’s not taking vacations, schools closed, and used car sales hotter then ever? Why?
I worked for Hertz and Enterprise, and you asked what cars go to a car lot versus what cars go to the actual Hertz or Avis lot. The rule of thumb for Enterprise is the top 10% of the cars goes to company lot. They are selling the cars to there customer base so they only sell the good ones. Also rental car maintenance on cars are very good. For both Hertz and Enterprise cars have to have oil changes done when they are due or the system will not allow you to rent the vehicle. Hertz has a rent to own program where you can rent the vehicle you want to buy for 3 days and then buy it after the 3 days. It’s better than a 20 minute test drive you get at dealerships. Also cars that are not the top 10% will usually be sent to car dealerships.
Mark thanks so much for your insights, it was very kind of you to share your knowledge with our audience. Stay safe, Ray
I just went on a 1300 mile car trip in a Charger from Enterprise. As for myself, it was 99% highway driving, and when I did drive it in the city, I didn’t rag the car at all. I would definitely buy a rental. Specifically, comfort 4 cylinders like a Camry or Sonata. Nobody is going around doing burnouts in a Camry.
Rental companies do accident repair in-house so any accident/damage/repair will not show up on a car fax.
Yet another reason to never buy one
I understood rental companies are self insured therefore no reporting to Carfax.
CF accident reporting comes mainly from crash reports thru police records which are public information. Provided that the Authority utilizes the VIN in their reports which most do now. Information provided is limited and vague. Title info such as Salvage etc comes from BMVs,again public info. Insurance related info would not be obtainable as it is confidential. If a rental vehicle is involved in a crash which is reported to the authorities with it's VIN, CF will likely show it.
Bought a used car from a dealer in 2007 turned out it was a rental. Bought one 2019 direct from Avis and saved a couple grand. Both were good cars but they also are Toyota's. PS. the dealer told me it was a rental because I asked plus 33,000 miles in a one year old car is a good hint.
I bought my 2015 Toyota Corolla LE, in 2016, also with *33,000* miles on it (directly from Hertz, BTW). Got the car for $14,400 out the door (inclusive of the 9% CA tax), which I believe was a great deal! The car now has approx. 122,000 miles on it and I've had ZERO issues with it. The same exact car would have cost 2 to 3 grand more at a dealer!
How did you like Avis ? I’m debating to go through that rental company to buy a Kia Soul 2019 plus ! Thanks :) any issues so far? Pros or cons any and all advice is appreciated
I work at Hertz and spend a substantial amount of time ferrying vehicles to Firestone or Midas for oil changes. The rental company is not going to neglect maintenance on a $60K Tahoe or Range Rover.
I’m looking to buy 2020 chevy suburban 44k miles ? It’s been rent a car ... good to buy ? I’m skeptical
@@AutomotiveDysfunction did you end up buying it?
@@Dani-xg6mz no bro .. I did buy it … but history didn’t show that was rent a car
Rented a car from enterprise for a family road trip. The change oil light come on after about a hour of driving. I wasn't going to have it affect my vacation and put another 900 miles on the SUV before returning it.
I bought a used 2006 Dodge Durango (Rental) with 25,000 miles in July 2006. It was owned by a Car Rental Co in Tulsa, OK and I bought it from a Dodge dealership in Arkansas. After less than 10,000 miles the differential began to be noisy and I took it back to the dealer because it was still under warranty and I had purchased an extended warranty. Discovered that the differential had been under water and that the car was in New Orleans, LA when the Catrina Hurricane flooded New Orleans. The dealer replaced the differential and completely restored to like new condition. I just wanted to share this story about unknowns when purchasing a rental vehicle.
I've bought two rentals before. Both gave me no problems at all. Both had lower mileage and the company took the initial depreciation hit. I got great deals on both. I would stay away from higher mileage ones, any "performance" ones (Mustang, Camaro, etc.) because those get beat to shit, and anything Nissan!!
Even Infinti?
What about Lexus
We have owned two Ex rental cars and both were excellent cars. Bought direct from Avis and Hertz. They were fine! I used to rent a lot of cars and I never abused one. Car Faxes are not the Bible and they can queer the sale of an otherwise nice car. Not
all service records are posted and not all accidents are noted.
Would a person purchasing a rental get a better deal purchasing directly from the rental place, or purchasing a rental from a dealership?
Several points:
1) There are many corporate rental fleets where the driver drives 30-45k miles per year. When I was a corporate fleet manager, these would go to the auction after 36 months unless someone in the shop wanted to buy it.
2) Hertz has a 3 day test drive where you can take the car out. At the end of 3 days, you buy the car or pay for the rental. This allows you to take the car and get it inspected by YOUR person and drice the car in all the ways you plan to. IMHO, this sure beats the test drive you get on most used cars at a dealership. In addition, Hertz gives you a one year powertrain warranty in addition to the balance of the OEM warranty.
3) I have bought vehicles from my fleet, from Hertz, and from Avis. I have had no problems with any of them. They are at least as reliable as the ones I purchased from the dealership.
4) There are several ways you can tell a rental. Sometimes, rental car companies require additional equipment (such as a collar around the steering column on certain GM models. Also, look for scratches in the trunk area.
5) The only way to avoid buying a former rentalc ar is to stick to models that sell very few cars to fleets - Honda, Acura, etc.
Interesting .because when i bought a rental it definitely had scratches on trunk
Alot of car lots are buying salvaged vehicles from salvage auctions like Copart and IAA and reselling them.
Can you do a video on "pre-purchase inspection" for a used car? How to go about it, when to mention it in the process, how much time you may have to get it done, how to pick a mechanic, what to ask the mechanic, how much it may be. How is this done during corona?
Its just like with any other used car, its luck of the draw for the most part. Personally I bought a 2006 Dodge Grand caravan that was a retired rental vehicle back in 2007 with 32,000 miles on it and have only had minimal issues with it over the next 13 years, it now has 132,000 miles on the original untouched engine/transmission and I still drive it every day.
Never buy a car that was a rental in Hawaii. They all tend to be very beat up and have sand in every nook and cranny in the interior.
Ray Emanuel haha I rented a 5 speed Nissan 300Z on my honeymoon in Maui in 1986 and “learned” on that car ! Crunched gears for a bit ! I’m the exact reason I would never buy a used car rental vehicle ! Hey I was 22 years old and learned on it, but got the hang of it pretty quickly.
I bought '86 Chevy Nova (Corolla) from Hertz in the day. Drove it for over ten years. I had no issues or complaints. BTW You guys should switch back to sitting on the other sides.
Justin Wright It was excellent I remember because it was a Toyota.
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix former rental from a dealer lot. It was classified as a lease back return and dealer disclosed it was a rental. It had a year left on the 3 year factory warranty so I figured that took a lot of the risk out of it for me. The factory warranty included roadside assistance too. Dealer showed me their paperwork for repairing the brakes. It ended up being a good car with no issues. Just make sure a former rental still has some factory warranty to protect yourself.
The dad is such a smart ass in this video. The son is very patient
That usually means he’s a good father all fathers are assholes it’s just life
He sounds condescending and it wastes a lot of time. Maybe there is some good info but I don't have the patience to listen.
I bought a couple cars that started life as rentals they are holding up very well. I did have to replace tires pretty quick they where very cheap quality.
I bought a 2020 330i with 5k miles from Hertz yesterday for 32.4k (34k OTD). PPI and everything was clean.
Great job! Stay safe, Ray
I used to work for Enterprise. You are correct about Rental company used car inventories. Enterprise keeps the nicest inventory for themselves. They send the vast majority to auction.
I recently read that since they are self insured they do not report to Carfax and as you said the quality of the work is often substandard.
It is true that many rental company’s are self insured and don’t report to Carmax, etc.
The quality of the work can be as good or as bad as anywhere else. It all depends on who’s doing the work.
The rental agencies where I live use the local body shops in town.
I currently drive a rental that I can tell was in an accident. Nothing but problems with it, and Carfax was clean.
I ran 3 ex rentals from 14000 miles ( uk rental expiry ) to over 120000 miles. 2 of the cars were really reliable one was junk. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
Good info, thanks. Have you guys ever done a video on what dealerships do with lease return units?
I bought a 1988 Buick Regal Coupe from Avis in 1989. Everybody said I was nuts to save $6500 over the same model new from the Buick dealer, because a rental car is junk. They were right. I only drove the car for 18 years, did very little to it and only sold it because I wanted a new car!
Are you being sarcastic?
@@lifegoeson1007 DUH!
@@poppyatcs4529 alright 😒
OK PUT HOLLYWOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE PLEASE.. YOU KNOW HOW DEMANDING THE STAR TYPES CAN GET!!!!! LOL
Thanks Scott. I also need to talk to Zach about my trailer, I need a new trailer damn it! Stay safe, Ray
I bought a car from a dealer and found out when I got home a “Budget rent a car” paper work under the front seat. It was a great car, no problems but I wish I knew.
Same
Even a broken watch gives correct time twice a day. JK.
Same. After purchasing from a Toyota dealer I would have thought it would have fresh filters oil change. NOpe took it in for oil change and the air filter was so dirty and full of leaves!! Made me mad.
Just look at a carfax report
State far away that begins with the letter A,
Alaska?
We have got a winner, ladies and gentlemen. Stay safe, Ray
I know if you are on Carvana, you can see if the car was sold to a car rental company by looking at the original window sticker.
I was told by a friend that was an exec at Avis that they sell the best cars via their network and the rest are sold at suctions.
Robert that is certainly what I would do if I was in charge of disposing of the cars and it makes complete sense. Stay safe, Ray
Rental car sales will give you maintenance doc. All you have to do is ask. Buying from rental agencies is the way to go.
Its interesting that the comments from people that bought a rental car are 99% positive but the negative comments are people that would "never" do it and so have no actual experience. I bought a 2005 minivan on Jan 1 2005 with 15k miles saved $7,000 it was a great car. I would do it again. I would never pay retail for a new car just too much $$$.
How about a session on how to read a car fax report?
Is it true that Carmax lists all former rentals as “fleet vehicles” so you can’t tell if it was a rental, or a limousine service or company owned vehicle. Is there any way to get to the truth of which group it came from?
Most car dealers are thieves. I once was gonna buy a car from a well known local dealer. The car had clean car fax. I took it to a body shop and they showed me that the whole rear fender had been fixed!!! Rest of dealers are worst
Carfax is a joke and only the dealers that pay them get to report to them. That is why on the carfax they have a good rating of the dealer...
Lifeprotip
@@meme-yc4ks lol
I bought a 2007 Impala in November of 2007 with 12,500 miles on it. During haggling the salesman says "my friend traded it in, would you like to talk with her?"... I said yes & spoke with the lady. Everything seemed good I bought it. A few years later I got a letter in the mail saying my car was in a class action law suit... It was a HERTZ rental car!!! Luckily It has been a great car which I still own & has 205K on it. Original engine & transmission!
if its a Chrysler you can get the build sheets and they say fleet
I like the questions being segmented to the video in the timeline.
This video could have been 5 minutes. Some useful information sprinkled in long winded responses
Yes first time I have seen that.
Definitely.
We’ve have several old rentals in our lives, probably a few we didn’t know about. I usually discovered this by finding some reference in the owner manuals/documentation that came w/ the car. Mechanically, all of them were fine, if not very exciting to drive.
In Canada there had to be full disclosure on rental cars that are being sold. You know up front that you are looking at a rental.
In December 2020 I bought an Ex mobility car these cars are on leace when I got it did 20,000 miles I've got it up to 76838 miles every two or three years these cars go to auction my car was bought from used car dealership
Ray I must be down right lucky. In 1999 my wife wanted to trade cars and so we took her 1985 Nissan Maxima to the Toyota Dealer and she found a 1996 Toyota Avalon XLS that she liked and it had 27,000 miles on it and I looked it over and from what I could tell it was in good condition. The test drive went well so we bought it. About six months after we bought it I was doing an oil change and fluid check, Air Filter and the usual routine maintenance that I do myself. In the paperwork that was in the glove box I found a paper that told me that it had been a Hertz leased car. My wife likes the car to this day even though she retired from the work force in 1986 so she does not drive much. Today the Avalon has 81,000 actual miles and the Michelin tires have less than 30,000 miles on them but because of the age of the tires the Discount Tire Store where we bought them told me about a year ago that because of the age of the tires they could no longer rotate them so I will drive them until they give up or I get 50,000 plus miles on them. We have not had a car payment on this Toyota since 2002 and the few times that I have had to take it in the maintenance cost average less than $1,500.00 every 5 years. The insurance company will only give us liability because they said it is not worth enough to warrant full coverage. The car has been garage kept since we bought it and still looks great and drives like a dream. I drive it once a week just to keep the fluid moving and to keep the battery charged. My wife is thinking about getting herself another car but she has only driven her car herself 3 times in the past 2 years. If and when she wants to go anywhere I drive and we go in my Toyota 4 Runner. I am not sure if she is really going to trade it off or not but I don't see a need to do so knowing she will only drive her self once or twice a year if she absolutely has to. I do enjoy your channel and I have learned a lot about the car business from you and your son. Just in case you are curious my 2007 4 Runner Limited has almost 120,000 miles on it. I bought it new after I retired in 2006.
I purchased a vehicle from Enterprise. It had moderate miles, about 35k, was in excellent condition, and was very happy with it. I'd recommend keeping them in mind when used car shopping.
Still got it?
@@Markeith199E Nope. Gave it to my daughter, and she has since traded it in.
@@jeffwhiting4237 What’s she driving now?
Enjoy your videos. I bought a 2016 Camry from Hertz and I thought it was a great deal, thousands less than I would have paid at a dealership. I got a pre purchase inspection from a mechanic I trust which checked out. While it was a little higher mileage when I bought it, it was really in good shape and it was a toyota so I wasn't too worried about it. Unfortunately about a year later I moved overseas and had to sell the car quick. While I lost money on the sale, I had several toyota dealerships that wanted it to flip as a certified used model. I eventually settled on a local dealer with the highest bid (an urban dealership focused on certified used toyotas). I'm confident if I had kept the car it would have been a great car for many years.
Buy trucks or minivans. Both are less likely to be abused. Trucks because the rental companies don’t allow towing and minivans because people are less likely to drive crazy with the family in the back. Accident repairs usually don’t get reported to CarFax by self insured companies like Enterprise.
I bought a Kia Soul from Enterprise during the shortage in 2021, no problems, low mileage, 8000 miles. No accidents involved. So far, so good.
Hi how car insurance companies work when purchasing rental car??
I worked at a Lexus dealership for many years. They use to get cars from auctions to sell as used cars. Repos , rentals, and trade ins. In the end. You never know what you will get when you buy used period.
OMG this show gives me that Car Talk on NPR vibe. Great work!
I miss that show!
@@purrfectstormz8225 me too. I love their Boston accents. The hosts were so smart and comical.
I serviced Hertz’ rental fleet for two years. Don’t buy a used rental car. You have no clue what people put a fully insured car they don’t give a shit about through.
Wouldnt there be a decal or some kind of sticker usually on the car somewhere (door jamb, window) showing the rental company?
Jerry before i think the car rental company have some sort of sticker etc. However few years back they already remove all sort of that. For the security of the renter. Against car break in, crime.
j t true. They stopped that many years ago. Maybe 1990’s
Rarely, the only thing i look for now is the small remnants of the "No Smoking" sticker.
There were car rental stickers on my 2016 VW....
In 1995 I bought a used Ford Thunderbird "program car" from the local Ford dealership (clue #1-the moniker). It had approximately 25-26k miles on the odometer (clue #2 - mileage like a lease). The stamped body tag /plate (on the radiator bracket) had HERTZ (clue #3 - the obvious). Later, the ignition key stopped working so I took it to another dealership (I moved away) for a warranty repair. Manager called to complain - they refused to warranty the item after encountering a tamper-resistant anti-theft steel plate shroud/device riveted around the steering column. They said it prevented them from accessing the lock cylinder. I told them to eat it because as far as I knew (and I was 99.99999% sure of it), it was OEM Ford.
I’m not sure if it’s still true, but a cousin worked at Enterpise. He said they sold cars that had been in accidents to auction. Clean cars they sold themselves. Usually the repairs done to their cars are very poor quality.
I wouldn’t want to buy a car that I used as a rental previously
U tripping why not ? Way cheaper then actual other dealers , and most ppl rent a car for less then a week. And the rental company do all the maintenance work . Just asks for records and you should be good ! I’m looking to buy a car from them next year !
@@TibGamingShow What's the fastest car in the world? A rental car
True story... My mother once rented a car and hit a mailbox or something and totally messed up the side of this car. Well, my grandpa found parts the same color at a junkyard. While he was installing the junkyard parts on that rental car, he looked at me and said son, this is why you don’t buy a used rental car.
When buying a rental car keep in mind the manufactures have a separate assembly line for the rental car companies where certain item are not installed in the car. For example I was looking at a chevy cruze for my son and it didn't have a back up camera which was standard for that model (LT2). In addition I was looking at a 2018 Nissan maxima ans the rental car lots did not have rear usb chargers where a Maxima that was not a previous a rental has them. Check the manufacture for the standard installed equipment.
Can go both ways. Camry LE of a certain vintage did not come standard with alloy wheels but Hertz paid to put them on. The only negative thing you can say for sure about a rental is it won't smell like a new car.
I LOVE that this has come up as Hertz is moving sone 2-3 yr old EV's and the media is calling it a terrible sign!!
Rental fleets turn their inventory over every 2-3 yrs, that's what they do! When's the last time you rented a car with 60k+ miles on it? That's what their selling, 2-3 yr old, high mileage, inventory. Buyer beware on THAT level....EV's are fine.
Hertz rent-to-buy experience: Right before the WSJ article came out, I went online and picked out 2020 Caddy XT5 w/ 8833 miles. No pictures of car. Got car 2 days late due to rental return, with 541 more miles on it. NO price negotiation when mileage is below 1k difference. Car had no spare, but car does have a sealant and air pump, it was also missing the switch on the steering column to adjust the steering wheel. Crazy right? Car was like new otherwise, no damage (had inspected by a body shop, drove well (brakes, alignment, etc.) and all mechanicals/electronics work as expected). Comes with balance of Caddy warranty and also comes with Hertz 12mth drive train warranty. Given that Hertz maintain their cars per spec, and price diff of ~2K less than dealer, worth the 3 day rental to try out. Called Hertz - they gave me an adjusted price due to these missing items and I'm satisfied. Given above, felt comfortable and bought car and feel that I got a good value. Only comes with 1 key too, why, IDK, but this is a known when buying a car from rental company. Key can cost >$100 without programming. Happy with my purchase so far.
Sounds like you did good Ian. I hope the Caddy serves you well for many years to come. Stay safe, Ray
1. Can one differentiate between a rental, company car, or a dealer's service loaner or any other "program" car based on verbiage used on a VIN report?
2. Words said in the video, but maybe overlooked: get an independent pre-purchase inspection no matter who purchased from!
3. Service on rentals may NOT always be regular or on-time; because if the car is needed, its maintenance will be put off. Money spent on maintenance and repair will be the least possible.
4. There is probably some kind of rule to position the Interviewee in a way that they are always facing their camera!
Beat like a rented mule!
There is a reason they dump the cars. They are worn out from the abuse and skipped maintenance. Every rental that I’ve been in with 40k miles is worn out.
Some years back when I was an inexperienced buyer and very young I went to a dealership and purchased a car. The Avis car rental was right next door so I was always told rentals were good cars to buy because they were well maintained. The car I purchased from the dealership was a previous rental, and they had no problem telling me that. I can honestly say it was a good car and had no problems with it. I was really lucky that it obviously wasn't beat on like a lot of rentals are. Now I would probably never purchase a rental car, and I would never purchase an auto without having my mechanic check it over before purchasing. I agree that I believe the better rental cars are probably at the Dealerships, and the junkers are at the auctions. Keep up the good work guys🌟
NEVER!!! Only an IDIOT WOULD BUT RENTAL CAR!! Those cars n SUV’s are beat up to the max. Just think: How many thousands of ppl drove thirst cars?? They are very low maintained by the rental company.
Most of the comments on this blog gives one the impression that people rent cars JUST for the thrill of beating the crap out of them is TOTAL BULLSHIT. When I rent a car or get a "service loaner", I care about one thing only, getting from point A to point B. Abusing a car that you do not own is just a display of immaturity!
Watch for the terminology in the car fax "fleet vehicle" might be a rental
My 2011 Mercury Grand Marquis was originally used as a rental car.
You nailed it.
Michael Collings just look at the first year mileage, anything over 20k, and it was very likely a rental car, anything over 30k, and it definitely was a rental
Know that rental car have had the shit beaten out of them, even if it was only a rental for a year it was worked over hard, people who rent cars don't care about them and rental companies only do bare minimum maintenance, if that . Also keep in mind if the car was ever wrecked you wouldn't know because the majors are self insured and repair the car themselves, CarFax never gets the report. CarFax is a scam, never put all your trust in that piece of bullshit paper
I got one of those rental cars once that was repaired poorly in house. After I had it for a few weeks, I realized that it had been T-boned. Not one of my better purchases. I would not do that again.
Unfortunately, the vehicle im looking for on the market seems to be all rental cars.🤬
I have had three rental cars, two from Hertz and one from Avis. They were all reliable.
There is absolutely nothing wrong it’s a rental resale from the big boy companies. BUT.....NEVER buy a sports car with a past rental history. People beat the crap out of them. Trucks and luxury aren’t typically beat up.
I think the trick is to buy the ugly cars from rentals. not the good ones they will likely be beat up.
California law states they have to disclose that it was a rental.
I really need a new car and I stupidly saw that damn ad y'all know the one I'm talking about and now they won't stop calling me!
Your dad should do a "wristwatch check" and show/tell us what watch he is wearing in the videos.
No he shouldn't, it's a car channel
@@louarmstrong6128 , right he should only ever talk about cars and nothing else. No fun allowed.
Leo C. I just wrote same then Saw your comment definitely need a wrist check seems like a lot of car people have more then one interest.... well at least most...👍
Q. Why do rental agencies sell their cars?
A. Because it encourages car manufacturers to make new cars.
For real? Basically they do it to stimulate the economy? Sir, I don’t think so. I think they get rid of their cars around an average age / mileage out of their own best interests, which is calculated to be before the point at which they start costing the agencies to maintain them when putting on miles at rental agency rates.
How much less should you pay for a rental car? 5% 10% 25%?
As a previous car salesman, rental car disclosure is required by law in New York State.
Thinking of buying an almost brand new rental mileage only less than 3k ! Should I buy it
There is a web site for most manufacturer's that you can put in a VIN number and get a copy of the new car sticker. It will show it was sold to a rental car company direct. It will show you the suggested MSRP also. Again was told this about 5 years ago by a friend and I did look it up on line and tried it. It did show rental company on sticker. There is no cost for looking this up .
Worse than a rental car is the ex learner driver cars in the UK it used to have a different company name on the title for example R, s, engineering to hide the fact
They are market as commercial use. I'm not sure if they (carfax) state that they are market as rental on the carfax.
They will say Fleet/Rental on Carfax
Bought a rental car at a huge discount. Insurance insured the market value of the car not the purchase value so that's also an added advantage.
A full time pizza delivery driver can easily put 40k on a car in a year. I've had 7 Corollas in my lifetime. The only one that didn't go way into the 200,000 mile range was one that I bought that had been a rental car.
sure. all the pizza delivery drivers are driving brand new cars in my town
Cool information and watch... Thank you!
A huge NO SMOKING 🚭 sticker (or two) on the dashboard is a giveaway that it is/was a rental car.
And the car will still reek of cigarettes and weed
Lol was it mark mitsubishi its the shadest dealer ship I have ever stepped foot on 🤣
Folks, always remember the rental car motto "No pothole too low, no curb too high"
James Smith
MY NEIGHBOR GOT A HERTZ CAR WITH A DISCOUNT BECAUSE THE DRIVER SEAT GOT SHARTED ON (YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE STAIN OR ODOR).
Has there ever been a study to determine if people actually abuse rental cars? Ther entals I've had i just drive like i always do. I think you may be making unfounded assumptions.
If you work in a car rental company and is low enough in the totem pole, you will see some rental horrors you cannot fathom exactly what happened. Not all people abuse rental cars, but a lot of people don't give a damn how they drive the car just because they don't own it. For example, using a regular AWD car off road when the car is not meant to be driven there. And since they don't care, they might even speed up a little bit. It won't create a short term or noticeable damage but it might in the long run long after the rental company sold the vehicle. 🚙
How do you guys not know of VinWiki? Given it is apples and oranges, they still show the history of the cars.
www.vinwiki.com
I hope this helps.
Matt thanks so much for sharing, I am sure that the audience will appreciate it as much as I do. Stay safe and thanks again. Ray
Let me tell you about the car I bought in 2010 and still have it. You would never recommend a person buy a car with this history but it has turned out wonderfully. My father in law bought a new Buick Lucerne in 2006 and in 2008 I took him to the airport and drove the car almost 200 miles. I loved the way it rode. So I started looking for one that was wrecked because that's what I do or did------I fixed totaled cars. Never had a car payment in my life. Well, I didn't find a wrecked one but I did found a silver 2008 Lucerne that had been in a minor flash flood. Now normally you run from a flood car but this one you could see the water line on the cardboard license plates the dealer had while on his lot. Yes, it was a rental bought by a Buick dealer and his used car lot got 13 inches of water in his lot. I saw no signs the water entered the interior. I checked it over pretty good and couldn't believe they would "total" this car as flood damaged but I guess since the wheels sat in a foot of water for several hours the dealer's insurance company designated all the cars in the lot as flood damaged. It was up for auction on................ebay. Another great place to buy a car! The car had the motor I wanted (3800) and had 28,000 miles. I checked all the fluids, put it up on a rack and I couldn't find anything wrong with it so I became the high bidder at $9000 and drove it home to MI from Valdosta, GA. So, I bought a car that was previously a rental and had a salvage flood damaged title. It now has 145,000 miles and has been trouble free. I do keep up with maintenance religiously but the car has been great. I recently was at a crossroads--------do I put new tires on it or sell it? After talking with my wife we put four new Michelin's on it. Call us crazy but we like the car so we are keeping it. Still looks good and runs excellent. I can tell you guys like your Eurotrash. Why, I don't know. Expensive to purchase and if you don't trade it off in 2 years very expensive to fix. Enjoy the prestige of driving that stuff. I'll wave to you at the dealership on my way to the beach. Actually, I am no fan of domestic cars either. I'd rather own a Japanese or Korean car. And your Volvo!!!!! Chinese piece of crap. A sorry ending to what used to be a great car company that built cars like tanks. My son lives there in the Northeast and, of course he had to have a Mercedes and she an Audi. Oh, they tell everyone they just love the cars but I have heard both of them lament about the cost of not only repairs but routine maintenance. Looking cool and driving a "I made in life" car comes with a cost. One that I will pass on. Give me my Ram pickup and her Buick Lucerne. Oh, if you want to know, we will be buying a Toyota when the Lucerne is retired.