Finally someone who covers warfare in depth and not only the surface stuff which usually results in them saying "Many good, pursuit good cus it kills" The formular I set up for calculation of casualties per tick almost 3 yeasr ago is: (1.02a * 0.03du * (w/U) / T * I = C d = damage of the requested damage dealing unit u = amount of 1 specific damage dealing unit type in battle a = advantage modifiers w = combat width T = toughness of enemy unit you want to know the casualties of U = total amount of units on damage dealing side I = the percentage the army is made of this unit type (e.g. 500 levies of a 1k army being 50%) C = Casualties a > 0, since in case of it being negative for the attacker it wouldnt matter since advantage only increases the damage of the one who has positive advantage, but doesnt reduce the damage of the one with negative advantage if w>U then replace w/U with 1, since in that case the damage dealing side isnt suffering from combat width This does not keep countering in mind nor percentile boosts of commander traits or otherwise present traits. These would be need to be applied to the formular, but thats a simple manner really
Thank you for your kind words :) Haha I love digging into mechanics too! I made a big excel sheet to calculate how many men my knight only army could fight against because of using the basic damage formula haha. But yours is more advanced thank you! I also found out CK3 does not allow ties interestingly
I didnt think i would be able to watch it all in one sitting, but here i am! Very comprehansive guide. so far I avoided wars and opted to conquring though murdering family members of my spouse until my kids inherents everything from both sides. and when i was forced to perticipate in war my main strategy was to just do "bigger army diplomacy" bc i had no idea what any of the numbers on the screen ment other than the army size, so a lot of times i ended up with battles that were a lot closer than i expacted because even though my armies were bigger, they were really shitty in quility Also, from my limited experience its always better to go for an independence faction than going straight to war, the emperor of the holy roman empire was kind enough to just grant me indepandence when i sanded an ultimatum even though i had no one else in the faction with me
Thank you for your support and kind words! That is a great tip, I've noticed that sometimes petitioning your liege for other claims works more often than not, which is kind of strong!
ah sorry I don't think I was very clear and didn't give any examples. So when you're declaring war the war target is usually whatever the casus belli is. For example a conquest war would be targeting a specific county, duchy, or kingdom and that would be the war target which is highlighted as the striped blue color. A claim war is for whatever titles are being claimed. Versus wars without specific targets like independence or tyranny wars have the capital as the primary war target
Phew, I finally made it through this video. I’m new to CK 3, I’ve literally discovered it like a few weeks ago. And I’m super invested. I’ve got a digital notebook and am researching everything to get a better understanding of this game, while also playing, of course. THANK YOU for taking me by the hand and explaining it as if I know nothing, because I really did know nothing, haha. My first time playing as a pagan badass witch was me just constantly breaking truces after winning wars for Irish counties, haha. I wasn’t sure why it happened but I figured I’d just keep soldiering on, literally. It worked out and I conquered Ireland that way, but at a price of course. So it was funny to learn why exactly and what my get around would have been. I would love to know more about knights, unless there really is not that much more to know about them. And a question: I remembering white peace-ing a war by sieging different holdings and getting my war score to 30 % but I believe this was a war for my entire realm. While the queen of England was sieging, I was heavily outnumbered and decided to siege some of her holdings. Is that then possible? Or do I misremember something? Because if so, then a possible strategy is to hurry up and siege as many holdings from the enemy to up the war score, right?
Thank you for the kind words :) I know my videos are really long so really thank you! I have a knight optimizing video that I recorded but need to re-record due to T&T updates to talk about accolades etc, but I've been really busy IRL so it might be some time sorry. You discovered an optimal strategy on your own, I'm very impressed :) It's actually a highly used strategy to have a full army of only siege weapons and then while the enemy is sieging your realm you base race them and siege them down before they can react. You can even hire a stack of mercenaries or send a small army of levies to distract the enemy AI armies while your other armies siege away as well. It also helps that siege weapons are cheaper to maintain. I didn't include it here because you have to be decently familiar with those war mechanics, but definitely use it if you're comfortable :)
Thank you for the kind words! I enjoy creating tutorials and I want to be better at them. I'm primarily focusing on guides and high level playthroughs that are guides unto themselves. Thanks for motivating me to continue :)
I love your guides I started playing CK 2 at the end of its life cycle and been a CK3 player from the beginning i've basically conquered the whole map in a legit achievements on iron man game and still feel like I'm learning new shit every playthrough 😅😂
Thank you for your kind comment! I actually started the same way / similar time as you. In fact, I struggled the entire year of 2020 to play CK3 and I put it down, but then I picked it back up later and clocked in over 2000 hours. I'm still learning new things everyday, especially since there are so many combinations of regions/cultures/faiths/etc that I haven't played them all...and they keep releasing new content. This is definitely one of my favorite games of all time. I appreciate your support and thanks again :)
@@breadgodgaming hey no problem keep the videos coming 🙂 I recently played the shogunate mod (after I completed another ACK3GOT playthrough). Both great mods, I now downloaded the Asia expanded and a great trade route mod. I also like to complete the game and continue my playthrough in Europa Universalis 4.
Hi friend, excellent video. One question though, in 29:31 there is a battle where 1700 troop beat a 77000 troop stack. How was that even possible. I think your narrative at the point just doesn't capture the reasons behind everything that is happening and there is a lot of 'meat' in further discussing what is going on and how to create such 'unbeatable' armies. In real life you would never expect 1700 to beat an army of 77000 however given this is just a faulty game full of exploits and you might want to delve deeper in army content and factors that would allow the creation of powerfull small armies. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm surprised you noticed haha. It definitely is not realistic but that was me pushing the game to its limits by doing extreme min-maxing. I have the raw video awaiting editing but it's in the middle of my priority list. I really miss summer breaks... This was meant to be just a beginner's guide so I thought the min-maxing was out of the scope this time. I only briefly mentioned it, but to improve your army mid-game and beyond we want to stack buildings that boost our troops. What I did was hold onto 9 duchy capital counties (which is also abnormal) and built 9 military academies. I also had a genetics program to create the strongest viking family so I had 80+ knights with an average of 50 prowess and about 1100% knight effectiveness meaning my army was worth about 5 million damage or the equivalent of 500,000 levies. Which is why they demolished the 77k stack and not just a close victory. Hope this clarifies a few things and sorry for the delay in releases
Are you sure there isn't more hidden counters or dynamics to men-at-arms by default. For instance in tours and tournaments CK3 I read on a archer unit either as England or from the in game wiki that it shoots a rai of arrows on the formost unit. I think there might be some hidden battle formations. Or maybe I am just dreaming 😉 thanks for this guide must have taken you a very long time organizing it all. 👍
Unfortunately, there isn't :( they still need to beef up the military. Those formations and strategies are likely from CK2? I didn't play much ck2. Double check the wiki it's pretty much a good bible for game mechanics they update it pretty frequently
The fact that the only thing that matters in the end is damage is quite disappointing. At first glance the combat system seemed really complex and built on these counters, but as it turns out i only need siege and heavy infantry...
Yea it only really matters if the armies are approximately close, otherwise being outnumbered greatly and on a mountain does not mean there will be a legendary defensive victory. It was even worse before the patches where your men-at-arms were able to teleport / be instantly summoned.
Is there any way to increase army quality? Sometimes very small mercenary armies of ~400 footmen will have elite quality even when the commander skill is not great. Is it determined by counter efficiency?
best way to increase your army quality is by having more men at arm regiments, because levies are what make your army so low quality, why? because they are weak they only have 10 attack and defense and no pursuit and such, thus only having levies is not really worth it, another way to make your army quality better in my favourite way is accolades and knight effectiveness, knight effectiveness is basically how good your knights are at fighting you can increase it by having certain buildings but you can also increase knight effectiveness by going down the martial path and going down the gallant tree and going to the right side. hope this helped.
@@breadgodgaming Well I feel bad for calling it an "outline" now haha. It's much more than that. It contains lots of advanced mechanics and strategies and is the best of its kind that I've seen. Keep up the good work.
How to gain skills quickly? I get skills after long time and that too i use on Steward lifestyles bcz i need money badly. That's why never even touched other lifestyles. Been watching these videos and learning alot about the game.
educate your children, if you are good at the skill you wanna teach them, they will get better at that skill when they are older if you suck at what you wanna teach them then get someone else to educate them in said skill, theres more you can do that i wont get into.
Defending or executing? Defending if you can attack the enemy as soon as they land, there is a “recently disembarked” -30 penalty advantage if they just got off a ship for 30 days so that’s the best time to strike. Sometimes you can fight off an army that is 50% larger because -30 advantage means you get +60% damage on the enemy If attacking, then focus fire on the castle holdings since you can get prisoners they are worth more than the loot from only raiding. There is an economic filter at the bottom right and the tiles with the special buildings (especially mines) will reflect places with high amounts of loot. For military strength, since we are tribal, we create troops with prestige. So in between raids and wars we want to go on hunts and feasts to gain as much prestige as possible to raise a strong men-at-arms army. Sorry I still don’t have a raiding video up yet. It’ll still be some time until I can get to it!
I'm sorry I don't know how to help :( The console version apparently is very different than the PC version. There's even an auto-battling option I've heard of but never experienced
It good bro your guide is legit I did learn how to win and wage war and get a better understanding of the game also your guide to become king of Ireland is flawless it work I just did the exact same thing you did
Finally someone who covers warfare in depth and not only the surface stuff which usually results in them saying "Many good, pursuit good cus it kills"
The formular I set up for calculation of casualties per tick almost 3 yeasr ago is:
(1.02a * 0.03du * (w/U) / T * I = C
d = damage of the requested damage dealing unit
u = amount of 1 specific damage dealing unit type in battle
a = advantage modifiers
w = combat width
T = toughness of enemy unit you want to know the casualties of
U = total amount of units on damage dealing side
I = the percentage the army is made of this unit type (e.g. 500 levies of a 1k army being 50%)
C = Casualties
a > 0, since in case of it being negative for the attacker it wouldnt matter since advantage only increases the damage of the one who has positive advantage, but doesnt reduce the damage of the one with negative advantage
if w>U then replace w/U with 1, since in that case the damage dealing side isnt suffering from combat width
This does not keep countering in mind nor percentile boosts of commander traits or otherwise present traits. These would be need to be applied to the formular, but thats a simple manner really
Thank you for your kind words :) Haha I love digging into mechanics too! I made a big excel sheet to calculate how many men my knight only army could fight against because of using the basic damage formula haha. But yours is more advanced thank you!
I also found out CK3 does not allow ties interestingly
I didnt think i would be able to watch it all in one sitting, but here i am! Very comprehansive guide. so far I avoided wars and opted to conquring though murdering family members of my spouse until my kids inherents everything from both sides. and when i was forced to perticipate in war my main strategy was to just do "bigger army diplomacy" bc i had no idea what any of the numbers on the screen ment other than the army size, so a lot of times i ended up with battles that were a lot closer than i expacted because even though my armies were bigger, they were really shitty in quility
Also, from my limited experience its always better to go for an independence faction than going straight to war, the emperor of the holy roman empire was kind enough to just grant me indepandence when i sanded an ultimatum even though i had no one else in the faction with me
Thank you for your support and kind words!
That is a great tip, I've noticed that sometimes petitioning your liege for other claims works more often than not, which is kind of strong!
nice guide, i liked it, hopefully you'll get more views!
Thanks!
Really good piece of work and as others have said, very comprehensive. I learned some things I didn't know.
Thank you for your kind words :)
What an indepth vid bro, thanks!
Can you please do a video on the war target, how to identify it? You may have already uploaded one, will check after watching this 👌🏼
ah sorry I don't think I was very clear and didn't give any examples. So when you're declaring war the war target is usually whatever the casus belli is. For example a conquest war would be targeting a specific county, duchy, or kingdom and that would be the war target which is highlighted as the striped blue color. A claim war is for whatever titles are being claimed. Versus wars without specific targets like independence or tyranny wars have the capital as the primary war target
thank you for such a complex but comprehensible explanation man! this is a solid guide
Thank you for your kind words!
Phew, I finally made it through this video. I’m new to CK 3, I’ve literally discovered it like a few weeks ago. And I’m super invested. I’ve got a digital notebook and am researching everything to get a better understanding of this game, while also playing, of course. THANK YOU for taking me by the hand and explaining it as if I know nothing, because I really did know nothing, haha.
My first time playing as a pagan badass witch was me just constantly breaking truces after winning wars for Irish counties, haha. I wasn’t sure why it happened but I figured I’d just keep soldiering on, literally. It worked out and I conquered Ireland that way, but at a price of course. So it was funny to learn why exactly and what my get around would have been.
I would love to know more about knights, unless there really is not that much more to know about them. And a question: I remembering white peace-ing a war by sieging different holdings and getting my war score to 30 % but I believe this was a war for my entire realm. While the queen of England was sieging, I was heavily outnumbered and decided to siege some of her holdings. Is that then possible? Or do I misremember something? Because if so, then a possible strategy is to hurry up and siege as many holdings from the enemy to up the war score, right?
Thank you for the kind words :) I know my videos are really long so really thank you!
I have a knight optimizing video that I recorded but need to re-record due to T&T updates to talk about accolades etc, but I've been really busy IRL so it might be some time sorry.
You discovered an optimal strategy on your own, I'm very impressed :) It's actually a highly used strategy to have a full army of only siege weapons and then while the enemy is sieging your realm you base race them and siege them down before they can react. You can even hire a stack of mercenaries or send a small army of levies to distract the enemy AI armies while your other armies siege away as well. It also helps that siege weapons are cheaper to maintain. I didn't include it here because you have to be decently familiar with those war mechanics, but definitely use it if you're comfortable :)
How I understand and calculate counter, is it takes 2 companies to counter single company, and max counter is 90%.
Precisely! Thankfully they also fixed the envelopment bug so the 25% increased efficiency actually works now...
Yep, just finished watching it. You have learned well my son. Thank you Master! Great video BreadGod!!!
My pleasure! Let me know if you want me to discuss anything specific!
Your channel is a lot better than those roleplaying ones, especially for people trying to learn/relearn the game. Thanks for the guide.
Thank you for the kind words! I enjoy creating tutorials and I want to be better at them. I'm primarily focusing on guides and high level playthroughs that are guides unto themselves. Thanks for motivating me to continue :)
I am grinding your videos, very detailed nice explanation
Thank you for the support!
@@breadgodgaming your channel has guides for dinkum and ck3 two of my favorite games
I love your guides I started playing CK 2 at the end of its life cycle and been a CK3 player from the beginning i've basically conquered the whole map in a legit achievements on iron man game and still feel like I'm learning new shit every playthrough 😅😂
Thank you for your kind comment! I actually started the same way / similar time as you. In fact, I struggled the entire year of 2020 to play CK3 and I put it down, but then I picked it back up later and clocked in over 2000 hours. I'm still learning new things everyday, especially since there are so many combinations of regions/cultures/faiths/etc that I haven't played them all...and they keep releasing new content. This is definitely one of my favorite games of all time. I appreciate your support and thanks again :)
@@breadgodgaming hey no problem keep the videos coming 🙂
I recently played the shogunate mod (after I completed another ACK3GOT playthrough). Both great mods, I now downloaded the Asia expanded and a great trade route mod.
I also like to complete the game and continue my playthrough in Europa Universalis 4.
The only CK3 guides worth watching forreal though. Thanks as always, and keep it up!
Glad you like them! Thanks for the continued support!
Hi friend, excellent video. One question though, in 29:31 there is a battle where 1700 troop beat a 77000 troop stack. How was that even possible. I think your narrative at the point just doesn't capture the reasons behind everything that is happening and there is a lot of 'meat' in further discussing what is going on and how to create such 'unbeatable' armies. In real life you would never expect 1700 to beat an army of 77000 however given this is just a faulty game full of exploits and you might want to delve deeper in army content and factors that would allow the creation of powerfull small armies. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm surprised you noticed haha. It definitely is not realistic but that was me pushing the game to its limits by doing extreme min-maxing. I have the raw video awaiting editing but it's in the middle of my priority list. I really miss summer breaks...
This was meant to be just a beginner's guide so I thought the min-maxing was out of the scope this time. I only briefly mentioned it, but to improve your army mid-game and beyond we want to stack buildings that boost our troops. What I did was hold onto 9 duchy capital counties (which is also abnormal) and built 9 military academies. I also had a genetics program to create the strongest viking family so I had 80+ knights with an average of 50 prowess and about 1100% knight effectiveness meaning my army was worth about 5 million damage or the equivalent of 500,000 levies. Which is why they demolished the 77k stack and not just a close victory. Hope this clarifies a few things and sorry for the delay in releases
Good easy breakdown 👊🏿💯
Thank you for the kind words :)
Are you sure there isn't more hidden counters or dynamics to men-at-arms by default. For instance in tours and tournaments CK3 I read on a archer unit either as England or from the in game wiki that it shoots a rai of arrows on the formost unit. I think there might be some hidden battle formations. Or maybe I am just dreaming 😉 thanks for this guide must have taken you a very long time organizing it all. 👍
Unfortunately, there isn't :( they still need to beef up the military. Those formations and strategies are likely from CK2? I didn't play much ck2. Double check the wiki it's pretty much a good bible for game mechanics they update it pretty frequently
The fact that the only thing that matters in the end is damage is quite disappointing. At first glance the combat system seemed really complex and built on these counters, but as it turns out i only need siege and heavy infantry...
Yea it only really matters if the armies are approximately close, otherwise being outnumbered greatly and on a mountain does not mean there will be a legendary defensive victory. It was even worse before the patches where your men-at-arms were able to teleport / be instantly summoned.
Brilliant video ❤
Thank you for the support!
Is there any way to increase army quality? Sometimes very small mercenary armies of ~400 footmen will have elite quality even when the commander skill is not great. Is it determined by counter efficiency?
best way to increase your army quality is by having more men at arm regiments, because levies are what make your army so low quality, why? because they are weak they only have 10 attack and defense and no pursuit and such, thus only having levies is not really worth it, another way to make your army quality better in my favourite way is accolades and knight effectiveness, knight effectiveness is basically how good your knights are at fighting you can increase it by having certain buildings but you can also increase knight effectiveness by going down the martial path and going down the gallant tree and going to the right side.
hope this helped.
Very good outline
Thank you so much 😀
@@breadgodgaming Well I feel bad for calling it an "outline" now haha. It's much more than that. It contains lots of advanced mechanics and strategies and is the best of its kind that I've seen. Keep up the good work.
@@garrgravarr don’t be, I took it as a compliment :) if there is any criticism I would love to listen :)
How to gain skills quickly? I get skills after long time and that too i use on Steward lifestyles bcz i need money badly. That's why never even touched other lifestyles.
Been watching these videos and learning alot about the game.
educate your children, if you are good at the skill you wanna teach them, they will get better at that skill when they are older if you suck at what you wanna teach them then get someone else to educate them in said skill, theres more you can do that i wont get into.
Do you have any tips for viking raids?
Defending or executing? Defending if you can attack the enemy as soon as they land, there is a “recently disembarked” -30 penalty advantage if they just got off a ship for 30 days so that’s the best time to strike. Sometimes you can fight off an army that is 50% larger because -30 advantage means you get +60% damage on the enemy
If attacking, then focus fire on the castle holdings since you can get prisoners they are worth more than the loot from only raiding. There is an economic filter at the bottom right and the tiles with the special buildings (especially mines) will reflect places with high amounts of loot.
For military strength, since we are tribal, we create troops with prestige. So in between raids and wars we want to go on hunts and feasts to gain as much prestige as possible to raise a strong men-at-arms army.
Sorry I still don’t have a raiding video up yet. It’ll still be some time until I can get to it!
I play this on ps5 and I don’t know where to find none of this shet
I'm sorry I don't know how to help :( The console version apparently is very different than the PC version. There's even an auto-battling option I've heard of but never experienced
It good bro your guide is legit I did learn how to win and wage war and get a better understanding of the game also your guide to become king of Ireland is flawless it work I just did the exact same thing you did
@@retro2485 Thank you :)