By far one of the most moving films I've seen addressing the internal disconnect, nerve-racking and awkward fear so many LGBT youth unfairly endure, especially when their conservative parents raise the subject of their sexual exploration with them in a not so subtle or considerate manner (especially when someone isn't ready to come out yet). I certainly empathized greatly with Adi's character while his mother practically was "breaking him down" while not really being as open which sadly is the case many LGBT kids face with misunderstanding/prejudicial parents. It is interesting to see how Adi and Victor's stories intersect in this way, though it would have been uplifting had both their mothers got of their "Trojan Horses" and embraced their sons without bombarding them as if they were on trial. The plotline from the novel featured in the film also interweaves well with what Victor and Adi go through. I only wish the ending was not left open on such a tense scene, but to a degree it did give me outlook for a hopeful end. A feature length version would be great to watch as a matter of fact, there are a lot of plot holes and avenues that could be explored and expanded on more. LGBT kids and their parents should definitely watch this one as it paints a clear portrait how not engaging and understanding one another creates emotional chasms that divide them and make people feel bad for being proud and comfortable in themselves.
@@ilustrafilms hi my name is chetan from England what a beautiful story it basically is to get to realise who we really are it’s very hard for someone to understand and come to terms with it it doesn’t matter what you’re sexuality is weather straight or gay etc I am gay I am being totally honest with you it was very difficult for me coming out every culture and religion should open their eyes 👀 and take us as we are still there son or daughter at end of day they is a saying don’t be afraid no matter what be proud of who you’re are nice to meet you
I'm not sure why you have the need to specify conservative parents as the problem. I've known gay friends who's liberal parents didn't handle their coming out very well. BTW, my conservative parents were very supportive when my big brother came out in the early 80's. I suggest you regain from vilifying a whole group of people based on political beliefs. That's no different than people who dislike gay people.
what a great film .. it should be shown to all new or people that re concerned about coming out.... this parent is a good example of the understanding of family dynamics with out all the bull that most go on with and the feeling she blames herself needs to be put aside and she will live with the respect and understanding of herself and others around her.... he need to have the prospect of live and let live plus what you see is what you get and if they dont like it then move on!!
The actors in this film are very nice. This situation is continuing to be what many people are going through with their families today. I hope the mother character loves her son still!!!
chris bond I'd still prefer her over my narrowed minded god fearing freak out of a mom. At least this mother is more open, willing, and sympathetic of her child who she can't understand. She isn't perfect or cookie cut, but there's potential for a beyond blood relationship called family to which I cannot say for my mother and me.
No. Not true. I wish it were, but plenty of very "real" and loving mothers don't have the perspective you and I would like them to have. That doesn't make them bad mothers, just uninformed. "Real" mothers make all kinds of mistakes. Real TH-cam commenters would understand what it's like for humans to grope and struggle their way through difficult issues, but that doesn't always work out either. So... eh, what can you do? My mother was the realest mother you could ever find, and she didn't accept. Never did, never could. She loved me as best she could, but she never accepted. It cause problems between us, of course, but she was not one drop less real or loving of a mother because of it. It is my mother you insult by calling this one not "real." Please, real life is complex and messy.
update: this comment is 4 years old. It's clearly overloaded with cathartic words, but I don't remember having written this, but I'm proud I thought this way back then and beyond. Thanks for your comments! 'I just don't get where I went wrong'. Why is it so difficult to understand? We humans are different than animals. We develop feelings among us, and love is sth that just grows between two people (or more) who feel attracted either for their attitudes, their gestures, personalities, bodies, etc. EVERYONE IS FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR LIVES. THAT'S WHAT WE CAME TO THIS WORLD FOR. TO ENJOY. TO BE HAPPY. AND EACH AND EVERYONE OF US DISCOVERS THEIR OWN WAY OF PLEASURE AND ENJOYMENT. What pisses me off the most is that the mother is upset because she feels guilty or bad or both for what happens to his son. MAN, YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL OF ANYBODY, NOT EVEN YOUR CHILDREN. They have their own thoughts and feelings. You have to let them be. You have to accept them. YOU CAN'T FORCE ANYONE TO ACCEPT YOUR IDEA OF A NORMAL OR PERFECT LIFE. YOU HAVE A WAY OF LIVING, THEY HAVE ANOTHER. LET THEM LIVE, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
sometimes its best to not to tell your parents,if you think theyre not going to accept you,or kick you out.put your safety first.everything else can wait.
Believe it or not some animals have feelings as well. Perhaps in a slightly different way like dogs wagging their tails. When my bitch died after an operation the male died a few days later, possibly from what we would call a broken heart. I could see the signs of his depression, but even though I tried to help him it was not the same. In afterthought I should have let him sleep with me, but when one has afterthoughts, it is usually too late.
I'm halfway through the film, where the first scene with the mom and son ends and we see the school or workplace corridors. I almost stopped watching less than a quarter through the film, because the mother kept demanding, saying it was immoral, asking where she went wrong, demanding to know what else her son had done with his friends. And the boy is sitting there, hanging his head lower and lower, feeling awful. -- People just don't understand that a gay person cannot help how they feel. They like and love the same sex. It is not just misbehaving. It isn't just physical gratification. It is about who you like and love, how you feel deep down, emotional, physical, spiritual, and yes, sexual feelings too. But is about much more than only sex. In that first scene, the son seems to understand that and the mother really does not, which I think is what you intended to show. But she sure doesn't get it yet. She doesn't understand how her son really feels. Being gay is not just a choice or an experiment or acting on urges for physical pleasure. Being gay is wanting love with someone of the same sex, physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of it. It's built-in so much that you don't even think about it, you're not aware of it at first, just like being straight is so hard-wired into a person that they don't even think of it. Gay people discover they're different and that other people don't feel the same, and gay people too often discover that straight people don't like it and don't understand or accept it. When you grow up feeling so alone because you don't know if anyone else feels the same, and so many people actively hate or at least don't understand your innermost feelings, it really can hurt. -- The son in the first half of the film seems to be hurting from how his mother treats him. He seems to understand his feelings, but can't explain them to his mother, because she won't listen. She doesn't get it, and yet she thinks she's being tolerant. She thinks she understands, but she doesn't yet. -- I'm going to watch the rest of the film and I may comment later. I feel bad for the son. That is very familiar, and yet I (thankfully) did not have that particular conversatoion. I could never talk to my parents about having gay feelings. I don't think they would have understood. -- Thanks, though, for showing how the mom and son do not understand each other. I think that is all too typical of what happens for too many gay people.
My mother was a devout Christian, & when i told her that I suffered from sexual confusion, she understood, & still loved me as her son. I was so afraid to let my Dad know, but after a couple of years when i told my Dad, with a lot of struggles, he said "I knew, your Mom already told me." I think a lot of us underestimate the love that our parents have for us. I am so thankful I was born into a good, stable family!
Shel, I'm glad that some people *can* tell their parents and be accepted. I wish that could be true for everyone. I think it's important for people to be able to talk to someone who'll listen and be there for them, and I think questioning or coming out, people need a backup, a friend's place to stay if things don't go well for a while. I'm far from an expert, and people should look to books and other sources for advice. TH-camrs offer some real life advice and examples of how it can go good and bad.
I told my mother I was gay when I turned 50. I'd been married, had two wonderful kids, then divorced. One of her first questions was "Was it something I did". She turned it totally into "her". Ten years later and she still has no idea how much of my life I continue to cut her out of! I met a guy about a year ago and he and I went on vacation together recently. My mother had no idea I'd spent my week off with another man, or what we might have done together. It was none of her business and I didn't want her to make it all about her. Why can't people just accept other people the way they are?
It sucks that you don't have the relationship with your mom that you would like. And, you're asking too much of humanity. Learning to accept people is an uphill battle, that needs to be actively worked on. Judgment is the human default. At least for now.
Well, truth is that you can't force people to accept you as you are. It's not that easy for some people. It might be easy for some others but not to others. And that's the way that things are. You can't always get what you want in life and that's okay too and it's important to not allow that affect us. It's about doing what you want at the end of the day like you've just described.
Although the mother in this film short in the beginning came across to me as if she is was interrogating her son rather then having a conversation with him. It is so infuriating how people who are not gay/bi feel that they have the right to grill a person who is of the LGBT community about why they are not straight. It's insulting the hypocrisy of one having to explain their behavior to another person who beliefs that they have the higher moral standard of lifestyle it's truly insulting. I wanted to see more of the first story it to me had the most potential for a full length film
Hi, ticket2. Thank you for your message. I will work on another script that will bring even more than what we see in this movie. I felt the same you feel when I've written the script. Alex
Wow, I sure like the beginning of this episode between Adi & his mother. His mom was so supportive & understands Adi's feelings about his sexual orientation. It's so touching. Adi seems to be quite nervous whilst he was being frank & honest during their conversation. Adi is such a handsome & breathtaking. Me & my cat enjoyed watching this episode & it always keeps my cat's ears up like an owl 🦉LOL Awesome! 😛With me, my father knows that I'm gay but he doesn't want to talk about it. Yet he still loves me as a son. 😛😛😸😸🌈🌈
I liked the first scene, it almost captures a realistic conversation. The rest of the film seemed unrelated and disconnected. On the plus side, at least all the guys were hot.
I am 66 years old. When I was a teenager, I would never have had a conversation with my parents about this subject, much less my mother alone. It was more about was I drinking alcohol, which I did or using drugs like pot, which I also did. They walked in on me & some friends, unexpectedly & caught us in the act, so they knew I was an alcoholic & drug addict.....LOL The gay issue was something my parents would have never even thought of. I did date girls from time to time, so that kept them off the scent, so to speak & my grades in school were good enough to keep them from worrying about that. But the gay issue never made an appearance until I was in my 40's & I had a niece who took it upon herself to spread all kinds of stuff, like she was little miss perfect. She had a relationship with a male high school teacher & while she was married, had a ten year relationship with a married man & when that ended, had one with the husband of one of her cousins.
I'm 64 I was bad enough when I was 18 and told them I want to be Catholic. I was like I killed half of the pis ant town. Gay never came up. They're gone now. I have a wonderful Partner he is 49 . A love like neither one of us have had before. Was it a neice? A real slut.
Lakatos translates into English as, "the locksmith." My name, "Geiler ", translates into English as, "Horny." I have always wondered what my ancestor did to earn the name, "Horny." At least, locksmith is a respectable job. But, "Horny" ?!?!?!?!?
O lectie foarte buna in filmul romanesc. dar ma mira faptul ca nu vad nici un comentariu in romaneste. Le este rusine romanilor, sa vada realitatea in fata ! in fine...bravo actorilor, pt realizarea acestui film. In Romania aceasta realitate, este foarte sensibila si inca dupa atatia ani, multi se ascund in spatele chibritului, spunand cu mana pe sexului celuilalt, " nu sunt gay ". A sosit timpul sa avem curajul sa spunem adevarul, cine nu vrea sa inteleaga atunci sa iese din societatea aceasta, reala, sa se ascunda in pestera.Acolo , cei " Sfinti " cu mana pe sex , pot sa-si imagineze fantasmele lor, cu o fata morgana , care nu au vazut-o niciodata, dar este in fata lor.Realitatea este ca, si copii inteleg mai bine, aceasta societate si nu se mai ascund de ea, cu riscul esecului. Dar nu acestia cad in esec, ci ceilalti care nu vor sa accepte realitatea in fata.
YOU "PARENTS" NEED TO REMEMBER ONE THING WHEN FINDING OUT ABOUT YOUR KIDS SEXUALITY... THEY CAME FROM BOTH YOUR LOINS AND ALL THOSE DEEP DARK SECRETS WHEN YOU EXPERIMENTED BACK THEN... JUST EXCEPT THE FACT OF WHAT IS OR MIGHT BE AND LEAVE IT ALONE IF YOU CAN'T EXCEPT REALITY!!!
This short film should have been made into two shorter films. I do understand why it was put into one, but the second part spoiled the first half. In the first one the mother had problem understanding the son's feelings of love for another boy. She believed she had brought her son up wrong. WRONG. He and we are for the most born with these feelings. Sometimes we are too frightened to admit it to ourselves and the suffer in an alien world. However, the son was not ready yet in coming out and she basically forced him to do so. It was good to see the boy have the courage to tell her his feelings. Though disappointed, she would have eventually accepted him for what he was. Maybe a bit grudgingly to start of with but eventually she would have supported him. The father perhaps not as we don't know enough about him and we did not meet him. I tried to tell my stepmother, when I was about 13, of my feelings, but she stopped me and said she did not want to know. She said she knew what I and my best friend had been doing at the age of 9. This left me in a limbo. I had nobody to talk this over with. When I was in my early 20s I was at home with my father and stepmother, sitting in my room doing a portrait copy from a photo I had taken. She came into my room and asked if this was my girlfriend. I nearly told her it was in fact my boyfriend and later I realised that would have been the perfect time to shock her. I just replied no and said it was a friend. We two were together for about 3 years when we both parted, still loving each other. We found out years later that we both thought the other had lost his love for the relationship and we had both been wrong. But by this time it was a bit late, He had someone else and so did I. A sad story. I am sure my father would never have accepted it. At the age of around 20 I went into a gay bar and for the first time I felt FREE. It was amazing feeling that I had not felt before. Everybody was dancing with a boy. Take care and look after one another and listen if your partner wants to talk over a problem. Never judge!♥♥♥♥
@@ilustrafilms Thank you for your kind reply. I hope my comment may help others who may have been in the same situation and let them understand they are not alone. Hugs to you Alexandru for putting up this gay short movie. ❤🩹
Parents often don't understand and make the situation worse. They really should be assuring them that they support their choices and simply advise them to not get into trouble or hurt anyone.
Strange film. First, mom scorns her son for exploring his sexuality and for getting caught kissing a boy he likes, then the story flip flops to a couple thieves, who ditch a wallet they stole, and it's found by the first boy as he bikes by it in an alley. The best part, was his explanation to mom about playing truth or dare with his buddies and them undressing and touching their privates. Strange film.
Thank you for your comment Leopoldo. Unfortunately the reality it’s even more cruel than this: some parents are (actively) wanting their son rather dead than gay.
Modern western society dictates to us that "child abuse" is when someone shows any form of love or affection for a young man( post puberty) or boy ( pre puberty). But this film is an excellent example of what REALLY is child abuse. Parents who feel they OWN their offspring and have every right to mold them into what THEY think they should be or do, without any regard to the youth's own nature or natural predisposition. This woman is injecting a horrible amount of shame unto this young man, simply because he kissed somebody????? Unreal. This woman is as bad as the worst kind of child molestor. Although she is made to appear intelligent, her disapproving gestures are so damaging to her son. The young man is shown to feel "guilty" for his activities, when in reality he had done nothing wrong. Western society, often perverted by religion, places love, affectionate, or sexual activity by their offspring in the same catergory as thievery or self destructing drug use or other anti social activity. They are quite distinct, with parents having no right to intervine in the romantic or sexual activity of their offspring. Of course, this is assuming that parents have given their children the neccessary education and information on hygiene, respect, and responsability from a young age. Unfortunately, most parents fail miserably at doing this.
So many questions left unanswered, and a good number of well thought out comments here (I especially liked "Ben W's" comment. In the first segment, the boy's mother seems to be in denial of the obvious. She wants to know the sexual details of her son and that comes across as perverted. Because the boy is meek and humble, she can get away with her controlling nature. One curiosity - I wonder if the first and last segments are connected. In the first segment, the boy's gay friend is Victor (5:45) and in the third, "Victor" appears in the open window above the couch at 34:16. Are they the same Victor's? I can't decide if I love or hate this film.
Hi Stuart M. Thank you for your comment. Indeed, Victor from the second segment is the same as the Victor that the mother says about. Hope this will help a bit. Thank you again!
15:32 Literally I am so uncomfortable because I know if I ever had to have this type of conversation with my parents it would be EXACTLY like this. I would be too uncomfortable to explain everything and I could just imagine myself in the same stance as him and WOW this is affecting me I just want to shout at the mum sometimes but I know she doesn't understand but she's trying and I love her for that. Unlike everyone else, I can see it entirely from the mums perspective and I'd be feeling so guilty too and as human beings are selfish I'm not surprised she thinks 'what did I do wrong?' but I'm so happy she accepts him anyways. I'd be so upset if this turned bad and she yelled at him for it. However the going to the dad thing was pretty bad, but I know my mum would do that too. As husband and wife, you have to tell each other these things, you are now one person and should trust each other with everything including this.
It's a story about honesty and authenticity, about the conflict between personal truth and cultural, societal truth. When these are in conflict, then more conflicts are created. In the end, the mother, who understands nothing about her son, has committed herself to at least embark on the road to understanding -- long though it may be.
SOCIETAL OPPRESSION BREEDS OBEDIENT SLAVES Thanks for sharing this professionally produced, informative, revealing, educational short movie. The characters in this short film evidently live in a very oppressive society. An oppressive society induces mental illness in its members. The mother was experiencing cognitive dissonance (willful ignorance and lying to yourself) while she preached to her son about lying. She is hypocritical. And the mother was manipulative when she interrogated her son and threatened to tell her husband/his father if her son did not tell her everything. [6:07 -- 6 :15] Adi > "They (Adi's schoolmates who played together after school) said the American teens don't shower with their clothes on." [6:33] Adi's Mother > "Wasn't there anyone smart enough to say that the Americans don't touch their genitals in the shower?" Question 1: Who in the world showers with their clothes on? Are they washing their clothes or washing their bodies? Americans have private, enclosed showers in private bathrooms. Question 2: How can an individual wash their genitals if they don't touch their genitals? It is natural hygiene. Question 3: How did the mother become disinformed or misinformed that the Americans don't touch themselves in the shower? It is propaganda. When I was in college many years ago in the USA, I lived in a male-only dormitory on campus my freshman year. The dorm had about 24 rooms in total with 12 rooms on each side of a long hallway and 2 student beds in each room. In the center of the dorm was a common room with chairs, tables and television. Also, in the center of the dorm was the entrance to a common shower room with about 10 shower heads and an adjacent room with a long row of wash basins (sinks), urinals and toilet stalls. Permanent, metal signs were prominently fixed to the walls of the shower room that stated: "DO NOT MASTURBATE IN THE SHOWERS -- IT CLOGS THE DRAINS". Most of the students did it, whether or not anyone was looking. In this short film, why is the parent-child, sex-talk dynamic so important? What is ultimately at stake in this parent-child discussion? The three pillars of fascism are family, church and state, all of whom say to the individual: OBEY! OBEY! OBEY! It is the central message of George Orwell's dystopian book, "!984, a novel". https ://www .allenandunwin .com /browse/books/academic-professional/politics-government/Mass-Psychology-of-Fascism-Wilhelm-Reich-9780285647015 Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich The only authorised edition, translated from the original German. Wilhelm Reich's classic study is a unique contribution to the understanding of one of the crucial phenomena of our times - fascism. Reich firmly repudiates the concept that fascism is the ideology or action of a single individual or nationality, or of any ethnic or political group. He also denies a purely socio-economic explanation as advanced by Marxian ideologists. He understands fascism as the expression of irrational character structure of the average human being whose primary biological needs and impulses have been suppressed for thousands of years. The social function of this suppression and the crucial role played in it by the authoritarian family and the church are carefully analysed. Reich shows how every form of organised mysticism, including fascism, relies on the unsatisfied orgastic longing of the masses. Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957) was an Austrian doctor of medicine and psychoanalyst. He wrote several books, most notably Character Analysis (1933), The Mass Psychology of Fascism (1933), and The Sexual Revolution (1936).
Thank you for your brilliant comment to the movie. It completed the plots and now all the people that ask questions in relation to the movie will be able to find your message (if they will search) and have (most of) their questions answered. Thank you again.
yea :D. the first Scene was interesting and good. but then it was a full cut with new persons, too Long Scenes where nothing happens, dont understand the thief Thing at all.
I think, it's trying to show, that Adi has good morals, by returning the wallet items to the owner, while still reeling from the lecture from mom, and his thoughts/feelings for Victor. You can be a good person and be gay too.
I didn't get the ending .I was waiting for Victor and Mom to have a discussion about the gay kiss and then it just ended? Otherwise a good film.And what did the credit card theft and return of the cards have to do with the story?
That's right lady, take your religious guilt and put it on your son. Make your son feel like he's done something wrong, so you can feel better about yourself. You have abandoned your role as a parent for not telling him that his feelings of love for another person are natural. This was sickening to watch. As usual, it all comes down to what she and her husband want.
Maybe something was lost in translation, because I'm still trying to figure out if the mother in Adi's story was being terribly homophobic, or trying to be supportive, or both??? Either way she made Adi feel shame, whether intentionally or not, which I found upsetting and made me feel for the character. Which is what good film making is all about, invoking emotion for believable characters...so I would have to say well done on this short film.
I actually thought Mom was really going to be a bitch but she turned out although disappointed to be understanding. Nice!! I remember when I came out and my Mom was not happy at all
I am sorry that you are disappointed. When I wrote the script is was interested in writing about the cultural experience of being gay and how we help each other grow spiritually. I don't think you will ever find in any of my future movies any kind of physical sexual intercourse. Thank you for the comment!
When I was a kid, and I took a 🚿 at the Y and the college when Mom dropped me off to go swimming, I would always strip down and take a nude 🚿 with the other males. The showers were communal 🚿 with no dividers. There was no sexual activity, but we males would talk to each other while we were in the locker room. And then, when I moved up to 7th grade, the junior high school locker room 🚿 were pole mounted, with 4 🚿 heads per pole, and two poles, and 6 🚿 heads on the long wall, with 2 🚿 heads each on the short walls. I always 🧼 my body all over, then rinsed off, then walked back to my locker, where my towel and clothes were, dry off, and get dressed for my next class. I never wanted to go to my next class all stinky either. I loved exercising during P. E., then getting clean to be ready for the rest of the day.
un chico es Hermoso sin percis o como mierda se llame y sin maquillage ,,, e s guapo no necesita mucho para demostrar el amor y el odio que retiene en su mente, porque su corazoncito es muy especial
I am the father of 5 children, what they do between the sheets is their own business. If any of them are gay or stright, that is their business. It makes me angry to see such nonense. For fick sake, its the 21st century
lordmick roach there needs to be more parents like you I have 8 siblings and 2 of us are lgbt and my parents have dis owned (I can't remember how to spell it) us from the family.
Phantastic,That is very sad, your parents loss is your gain. I hope one day they can accept. One thing I notice is that Cristians quote the Bible, yes Leviticus said man with man is wrong but, Leviticus also says that you should not eat shell fish and I bet your parents eat them, it also states that troublesome wives should be beaten and sent back to their family. I wish you all the best and hope that you have a splendid future and meet a partner that is worthy!
I have always taken nude 🚿, whether it was at the communal pool like the Y,or the college,or after P.E. in junior high and high school, or at a friend's, relative's, or parents house or at my own house, after I moved out of my parents house. I have always been comfortable with other people seeing my nude body, even from early childhood.
I thought the first section was well done. As one that grew up when homosexuality was against the law and from what I remember Romania only changed its laws when it entered the EU I can see where the mother is coming from. Even today in Canada it is still difficult for some parents to accept a gay child and it always seems to be more difficult when that child is a boy and the only child. Second half just to far removed from the first. It would have made more sense to me if we had seen how Victors parents dealt with him being gay. I understand what Alexandru was trying to portray but as I said too far removed. Takes an excellent short and detracts from the theme.
I think I get it. The second part is meant to demonstrate the character of the boy as someone who is kind, good, and willing to go out of his way to help a stranger, even when it would be easier not to. And that's before we are told that he's also the boy that Adi...loves? Is that fair to assume?
Thank you for your comment. What you see in the characters is yours to see and keep as a treasure. I can only say that the Victor from the second part is the same Victor that Adi loves. Thank you for your comment.
what the hell was that ? 2 or 3 very short chopped films ? did mom ever finish with son ? who was the kid on the bike who found the wallet ? did the girl with the nipple erections ever take off her top in the cow field ? horrible mix up here ! i'm confused and wasted some time here.
The discussion between mother and son is the only part that contains any value for me .Many might wish for such a wise and righteous mum.The rest garbage i would say.
The mother was all over the place. At one point she seems like she's trying to say I accept but her body language says something totally different and then these terrible words come out of her mouth. You can't tell your tea that you accept who they are and tell them that you love them and then say they're immoral at the same time. Terrible parenting from the character of the mother.
You can see how that mistake can be made...so many American movies, videos - show people in the shower or bath wearing towels, swim suits, bathing suits, bath robes...etc. Especially in old movies. Plus, many Eastern Europeans get the mistaken belief that everyone from Western Europe are "Americans" - American movies have all those restriction (PG, PG-13, PG-18, Adult only, mature radiance only, no viewer under 13, no violence, no nudity, no sex - everything is regulated...unless its X, XXX-rated - but then its not suitable for distribution in the better or best theaters.
That's what I have always hated about our movies. A little kid could be dropped off to watch a movie filled with blood and guts all over the place, and that's all right. But, if anyone in range of the camera, decides to take a 🚿, or go skinny dipping, the christian prudes come out of the woodwork, chanting, "Killing is good !!!! Love is bad !!!"
After the awkward conversation between Adi and his mother, the film goes off the rails by introducing a number of irrelevant characters and at the end we see a second of Victor. Why after the talk we never see Adi and Victor together, which is what one would expect, is just disappointing.
Thank you for the comment. The fact that we don t see together Adi and Victor is because I wanted to portrait the true reality of our society: that in places on the planet (including the one Adi and Victor come from) it is very very hard for two gay man to really connect and create a bond. To go further and introduce the two girls at the end (there is this conversation debate that it’s much easier for two girls to create this bond). I hope I have given you a key and you will be able to find yourself the relevance of the other characters. Thank you again for your comment.
FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE After watching this short movie a second time, it becomes apparent that the Mother interrogates her son, Adi, but does not actively listen to him and does not observe the obvious clues about him. Adi and his mother fundamentally fail to communicate, and the failure is on his mother, not on Adi's attempt to maintain his legitimate privacy and be honest. Adi is presented as a tall, lanky teen with long hair, pierced right-hand side eyebrow, pierced left-hand side ear stud, wearing a dark-purple colored t-shirt and wearing a rainbow colored bracelet on his right-hand side wrist. The first impression is that Adi appears to be an "emo-boy" in his demeanor, tone and body language, and his clothes and jewelry are consistent with the emo style. Most students and many others recognize the rainbow pattern as the symbol of the LGBTQ+ movement, and the "emo" style as representing a person who is more emotional and sensitive than others. Adi's mother does not hear or see any of this when she interrogates him, or maybe she chooses to ignore it because it is too threatening to her cherished values and beliefs. Adi is caught kissing Victor, his classmate and desk-mate, in the school toilet after school, and his form teacher informs his mother. His mother interrogates him and tells him that she does not think it is wrong for teenagers to masturbate, and to want to know themselves, to wish to discover, to explore, to experiment and to be curious. In response to her direct question, Adi tells her that he and other friends used to meet at Victor's house or other friends' place after school, where they played "Truth or Dare", and they started kissing and touching each other on their genitals, rarely when any girls were involved; and they undressed and touched each other's naked genitals (maybe while in the shower), all of which they did voluntarily by mutual consent. The mother obtusely tells Adi: 'Your father is very upset and disappointed." ... "It's very hard for me to understand that my only son might be gay." ... "Your other parent, God, sees everything you do." The Mother, continuing her inquisition of Adi, asks: "Do you like Victor?" Adi responds by silently nodding his head, "Yes." And he calmly, patiently, kindly says: "We feel good with who we are. We don't do it just because we like it." ... "I get along with all of the girls in my classroom, and some of them know that I am gay and like Victor." Adi is the adult in this conversation with his mother who seems infantilized regardless of her purported good intentions to protect Adi. This excellent, well-constructed film could serve as a Public Service Announcement to parents everywhere in all nations, cultures and societies, and throughout the generations. As it now stands, public sex education for teenagers consists more of "Just Say No" and fearmongering with very little, balanced, accurate, practical information, equivalent to the "Reefer Madness" movie for recreational drug education. As a result, many if not most teenagers learn about sex from watching videos at online pornography sites, such as pr0nhub and ch4terb4te. All teenagers deserve better.
Thank you so much for your comment. It is indeed one of the most elaborated, well structured, correct impression review on the movie all time putting it right next to the critic’s view on the movie. When I made this movie, I wanted to speak about society for the society and now this movie is needed as it was needed 10 years ago. I wish this movie would not be needed anymore and that the society I am coming from does (would have made) the needed progress and along with all culture and societies. Having to visit countries I know now, happily, that this movie is NOT needed in some cultures/ societies. And they need to become inspiration for other cultures and societies. Thank again for your comment. I can now see that the actors work and the team’s work is well reworded! Because before the critic’s views, normal people of the society need to see arts value when needed.
The first part, mother and son , is truly excellent. In acting, reacting, gestures passing those long seconds and minutes. It's a surprise and an honor to see you are the maker of this movie. I see it as a timeless piece, even in these so-called emancipated days. All this has been going on and will in the future as well. Brilliantly, intelligently portrayed. For once, a film with substance. Ardy calls it a failure to communicate, I call it truthful. Adi claims his spot, respectfully. The mother will come around. At heart, both share the high ground in their views and rules and all. Great stuff, how did you pull this off?
@@maync1 hi. Thank you so so much for your comment. I am very glad all the work is paid of even after all this time. We knew and felt on the set we are doing something important and special. The credits for the end resolute belongs to all involved. There is much to be said about the movie but there is a trivia section on the IMDB page of the movie so I will add here the link to it and hope you will find information that is useful to you 🙂. m.imdb.com/title/tt2165567/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv. If you still have questions after feel free to add them here. Take care. 🤗
OMG..the mother wss too calm. Once he told her the truth.. I expect her to do something... like put him out or send to bed with no dinner or something. The other parts just didn't make any sense. Characters didn't interact except for Victor and the couple. 🤷🏽♂️I would say more but rather say less...🙄 👁 👁 👅
If my Mom started to demand I tell to her about my girls friend ored boy friend for that matters and what we were doing when we were aloned, I would tell her to bak off. It is noned of her business who do I see excepted to if I do need helped. She cand ask me stuff but demand that I do tell to her who I do liked or loved and too what sex I am having? No way, unlessed I do wished to tell it. And I did tell to my father that when he started to get too personal about who wased my girls friend and what we did together.
@@beckylynch2754 In Nov 2010- Jan 2011 - a fost prima generatie de filme independente filmate pe Canon 5D. Gasesti mai multe informatii cool www.imdb.com/title/tt2165567/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
Yes this movie is not finished, it is a kaleidoscope. The boy on the bike seems to be Victor, so that is a connection with the first part of the movie. But there is no development of any kind, no continuity. Two girls suddenly show up. ? No connection with anything. No, we cannot really enjoy this movie. 0.5 star. It leaves the viewer in total doubt.. what have I seen? What is this movie trying to do?
By far one of the most moving films I've seen addressing the internal disconnect, nerve-racking and awkward fear so many LGBT youth unfairly endure, especially when their conservative parents raise the subject of their sexual exploration with them in a not so subtle or considerate manner (especially when someone isn't ready to come out yet). I certainly empathized greatly with Adi's character while his mother practically was "breaking him down" while not really being as open which sadly is the case many LGBT kids face with misunderstanding/prejudicial parents. It is interesting to see how Adi and Victor's stories intersect in this way, though it would have been uplifting had both their mothers got of their "Trojan Horses" and embraced their sons without bombarding them as if they were on trial. The plotline from the novel featured in the film also interweaves well with what Victor and Adi go through. I only wish the ending was not left open on such a tense scene, but to a degree it did give me outlook for a hopeful end. A feature length version would be great to watch as a matter of fact, there are a lot of plot holes and avenues that could be explored and expanded on more. LGBT kids and their parents should definitely watch this one as it paints a clear portrait how not engaging and understanding one another creates emotional chasms that divide them and make people feel bad for being proud and comfortable in themselves.
Thank you very much!
So threw we are all gods Children no matter who u are
@@ilustrafilms hi my name is chetan from England what a beautiful story it basically is to get to realise who we really are it’s very hard for someone to understand and come to terms with it it doesn’t matter what you’re sexuality is weather straight or gay etc I am gay I am being totally honest with you it was very difficult for me coming out every culture and religion should open their eyes 👀 and take us as we are still there son or daughter at end of day they is a saying don’t be afraid no matter what be proud of who you’re are nice to meet you
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I'm not sure why you have the need to specify conservative parents as the problem. I've known gay friends who's liberal parents didn't handle their coming out very well. BTW, my conservative parents were very supportive when my big brother came out in the early 80's. I suggest you regain from vilifying a whole group of people based on political beliefs. That's no different than people who dislike gay people.
what a great film .. it should be shown to all new or people that re concerned about coming out.... this parent is a good example of the understanding of family dynamics with out all the bull that most go on with and the feeling she blames herself needs to be put aside and she will live with the respect and understanding of herself and others around her.... he need to have the prospect of live and let live plus what you see is what you get and if they dont like it then move on!!
The actors in this film are very nice. This situation is continuing to be what many people are going through with their families today. I hope the mother character loves her son still!!!
Any "real" mother would simply accept and protect,, without convoluted interrogation, and bias!!
chris bond I'd still prefer her over my narrowed minded god fearing freak out of a mom. At least this mother is more open, willing, and sympathetic of her child who she can't understand. She isn't perfect or cookie cut, but there's potential for a beyond blood relationship called family to which I cannot say for my mother and me.
ruxandra * 50 %
@@sikerslalatm3147 70%. 7 out of 10 romamians don't like gay ppl
No. Not true. I wish it were, but plenty of very "real" and loving mothers don't have the perspective you and I would like them to have. That doesn't make them bad mothers, just uninformed. "Real" mothers make all kinds of mistakes. Real TH-cam commenters would understand what it's like for humans to grope and struggle their way through difficult issues, but that doesn't always work out either. So... eh, what can you do?
My mother was the realest mother you could ever find, and she didn't accept. Never did, never could. She loved me as best she could, but she never accepted. It cause problems between us, of course, but she was not one drop less real or loving of a mother because of it. It is my mother you insult by calling this one not "real." Please, real life is complex and messy.
update: this comment is 4 years old. It's clearly overloaded with cathartic words, but I don't remember having written this, but I'm proud I thought this way back then and beyond. Thanks for your comments!
'I just don't get where I went wrong'. Why is it so difficult to understand? We humans are different than animals. We develop feelings among us, and love is sth that just grows between two people (or more) who feel attracted either for their attitudes, their gestures, personalities, bodies, etc. EVERYONE IS FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR LIVES. THAT'S WHAT WE CAME TO THIS WORLD FOR. TO ENJOY. TO BE HAPPY. AND EACH AND EVERYONE OF US DISCOVERS THEIR OWN WAY OF PLEASURE AND ENJOYMENT.
What pisses me off the most is that the mother is upset because she feels guilty or bad or both for what happens to his son. MAN, YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL OF ANYBODY, NOT EVEN YOUR CHILDREN. They have their own thoughts and feelings. You have to let them be. You have to accept them. YOU CAN'T FORCE ANYONE TO ACCEPT YOUR IDEA OF A NORMAL OR PERFECT LIFE. YOU HAVE A WAY OF LIVING, THEY HAVE ANOTHER. LET THEM LIVE, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Thank you for your comment, Tom 99
Totally agree with you..but, i still hide my sex orientation from my parents. I afraid if they would kick me from my house.
sometimes its best to not to tell your parents,if you think theyre not going to accept you,or kick you out.put your safety first.everything else can wait.
Well Said. I agree.
Believe it or not some animals have feelings as well. Perhaps in a slightly different way like dogs wagging their tails. When my bitch died after an operation the male died a few days later, possibly from what we would call a broken heart. I could see the signs of his depression, but even though I tried to help him it was not the same. In afterthought I should have let him sleep with me, but when one has afterthoughts, it is usually too late.
I'm halfway through the film, where the first scene with the mom and son ends and we see the school or workplace corridors. I almost stopped watching less than a quarter through the film, because the mother kept demanding, saying it was immoral, asking where she went wrong, demanding to know what else her son had done with his friends. And the boy is sitting there, hanging his head lower and lower, feeling awful. -- People just don't understand that a gay person cannot help how they feel. They like and love the same sex. It is not just misbehaving. It isn't just physical gratification. It is about who you like and love, how you feel deep down, emotional, physical, spiritual, and yes, sexual feelings too. But is about much more than only sex. In that first scene, the son seems to understand that and the mother really does not, which I think is what you intended to show. But she sure doesn't get it yet. She doesn't understand how her son really feels. Being gay is not just a choice or an experiment or acting on urges for physical pleasure. Being gay is wanting love with someone of the same sex, physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of it. It's built-in so much that you don't even think about it, you're not aware of it at first, just like being straight is so hard-wired into a person that they don't even think of it. Gay people discover they're different and that other people don't feel the same, and gay people too often discover that straight people don't like it and don't understand or accept it. When you grow up feeling so alone because you don't know if anyone else feels the same, and so many people actively hate or at least don't understand your innermost feelings, it really can hurt. -- The son in the first half of the film seems to be hurting from how his mother treats him. He seems to understand his feelings, but can't explain them to his mother, because she won't listen. She doesn't get it, and yet she thinks she's being tolerant. She thinks she understands, but she doesn't yet. -- I'm going to watch the rest of the film and I may comment later. I feel bad for the son. That is very familiar, and yet I (thankfully) did not have that particular conversatoion. I could never talk to my parents about having gay feelings. I don't think they would have understood. -- Thanks, though, for showing how the mom and son do not understand each other. I think that is all too typical of what happens for too many gay people.
Thank you for your full of feelings and complex comment, Ben W!
My mother was a devout Christian, & when i told her that I suffered from sexual confusion, she understood, & still loved me as her son. I was so afraid to let my Dad know, but after a couple of years when i told my Dad, with a lot of struggles, he said "I knew, your Mom already told me." I think a lot of us underestimate the love that our parents have for us. I am so thankful I was born into a good, stable family!
Thank you for sharing your story with us, Shel!
Shel, I'm glad that some people *can* tell their parents and be accepted. I wish that could be true for everyone. I think it's important for people to be able to talk to someone who'll listen and be there for them, and I think questioning or coming out, people need a backup, a friend's place to stay if things don't go well for a while. I'm far from an expert, and people should look to books and other sources for advice. TH-camrs offer some real life advice and examples of how it can go good and bad.
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M.C. here , I love this video, I'm believing it's really actually a cool song! Thanks again for having it on our playlist along with some others!
I told my mother I was gay when I turned 50. I'd been married, had two wonderful kids, then divorced. One of her first questions was "Was it something I did". She turned it totally into "her". Ten years later and she still has no idea how much of my life I continue to cut her out of!
I met a guy about a year ago and he and I went on vacation together recently. My mother had no idea I'd spent my week off with another man, or what we might have done together. It was none of her business and I didn't want her to make it all about her.
Why can't people just accept other people the way they are?
It sucks that you don't have the relationship with your mom that you would like.
And, you're asking too much of humanity. Learning to accept people is an uphill battle, that needs to be actively worked on. Judgment is the human default. At least for now.
Well, truth is that you can't force people to accept you as you are. It's not that easy for some people.
It might be easy for some others but not to others. And that's the way that things are. You can't always get what you want in life and that's okay too and it's important to not allow that affect us. It's about doing what you want at the end of the day like you've just described.
Although the mother in this film short in the beginning came across to me as if she is was interrogating her son rather then having a conversation with him. It is so infuriating how people who are not gay/bi feel that they have the right to grill a person who is of the LGBT community about why they are not straight. It's insulting the hypocrisy of one having to explain their behavior to another person who beliefs that they have the higher moral standard of lifestyle it's truly insulting. I wanted to see more of the first story it to me had the most potential for a full length film
Hi, ticket2. Thank you for your message. I will work on another script that will bring even more than what we see in this movie. I felt the same you feel when I've written the script. Alex
Thank you, equalism 42!
Thank You for your reply and I will be looking forward to your next film.
Just ignore em tbey re dumb but not all
ticket2 . I trust this will help you out of my favorite friend and he is mine and not to be shared with anyone
Am ramas in soc cand i-am auzit vorbind romana :))))
Great job guys
Multumim mult! :) >:)
Wow, I sure like the beginning of this episode between Adi & his mother. His mom was so supportive & understands Adi's feelings about his sexual orientation. It's so touching. Adi seems to be quite nervous whilst he was being frank & honest during their conversation. Adi is such a handsome & breathtaking. Me & my cat enjoyed watching this episode & it always keeps my cat's ears up like an owl 🦉LOL Awesome! 😛With me, my father knows that I'm gay but he doesn't want to talk about it. Yet he still loves me as a son. 😛😛😸😸🌈🌈
I feel happy for you Leo as your father still loves you, as he should. ❤
I liked the first scene, it almost captures a realistic conversation.
The rest of the film seemed unrelated and disconnected.
On the plus side, at least all the guys were hot.
I am 66 years old. When I was a teenager, I would never have had a conversation with my parents about this subject, much less my mother alone. It was more about was I drinking alcohol, which I did or using drugs like pot, which I also did. They walked in on me & some friends, unexpectedly & caught us in the act, so they knew I was an alcoholic & drug addict.....LOL The gay issue was something my parents would have never even thought of. I did date girls from time to time, so that kept them off the scent, so to speak & my grades in school were good enough to keep them from worrying about that. But the gay issue never made an appearance until I was in my 40's & I had a niece who took it upon herself to spread all kinds of stuff, like she was little miss perfect. She had a relationship with a male high school teacher & while she was married, had a ten year relationship with a married man & when that ended, had one with the husband of one of her cousins.
I'm 64 I was bad enough when I was 18 and told them I want to be Catholic. I was like I killed half of the pis ant town. Gay never came up. They're gone now. I have a wonderful Partner he is 49 .
A love like neither one of us have had before.
Was it a neice? A real slut.
It's the first Romanian Gay Short I saw by far
Thank you, lakatos zsolt!
Lakatos translates into English as, "the locksmith."
My name, "Geiler ", translates into English as, "Horny."
I have always wondered what my ancestor did to earn the name, "Horny."
At least, locksmith is a respectable job.
But, "Horny" ?!?!?!?!?
wonderful little film. Very mature, sensitive, touching.
Thank you!
I've enjoyed this short moment with u.
Ps. Your picture is beautiful.
O lectie foarte buna in filmul romanesc. dar ma mira faptul ca nu vad nici un comentariu in romaneste. Le este rusine romanilor, sa vada realitatea in fata ! in fine...bravo actorilor, pt realizarea acestui film. In Romania aceasta realitate, este foarte sensibila si inca dupa atatia ani, multi se ascund in spatele chibritului, spunand cu mana pe sexului celuilalt, " nu sunt gay ". A sosit timpul sa avem curajul sa spunem adevarul, cine nu vrea sa inteleaga atunci sa iese din societatea aceasta, reala, sa se ascunda in pestera.Acolo , cei " Sfinti " cu mana pe sex , pot sa-si imagineze fantasmele lor, cu o fata morgana , care nu au vazut-o niciodata, dar este in fata lor.Realitatea este ca, si copii inteleg mai bine, aceasta societate si nu se mai ascund de ea, cu riscul esecului. Dar nu acestia cad in esec, ci ceilalti care nu vor sa accepte realitatea in fata.
Multumesc frumos pentru comentariu, Reporter David Q81.
YOU "PARENTS" NEED TO REMEMBER ONE THING WHEN FINDING OUT ABOUT YOUR KIDS SEXUALITY... THEY CAME FROM BOTH YOUR LOINS AND ALL THOSE DEEP
DARK SECRETS WHEN YOU EXPERIMENTED BACK THEN... JUST EXCEPT THE FACT
OF WHAT IS OR MIGHT BE AND LEAVE IT ALONE IF YOU CAN'T EXCEPT REALITY!!!
Mom needs to understand her son for the way he is and accept the fact of who is and wants
This short film should have been made into two shorter films. I do understand why it was put into one, but the second part spoiled the first half. In the first one the mother had problem understanding the son's feelings of love for another boy. She believed she had brought her son up wrong. WRONG. He and we are for the most born with these feelings. Sometimes we are too frightened to admit it to ourselves and the suffer in an alien world. However, the son was not ready yet in coming out and she basically forced him to do so. It was good to see the boy have the courage to tell her his feelings. Though disappointed, she would have eventually accepted him for what he was. Maybe a bit grudgingly to start of with but eventually she would have supported him. The father perhaps not as we don't know enough about him and we did not meet him. I tried to tell my stepmother, when I was about 13, of my feelings, but she stopped me and said she did not want to know. She said she knew what I and my best friend had been doing at the age of 9. This left me in a limbo. I had nobody to talk this over with. When I was in my early 20s I was at home with my father and stepmother, sitting in my room doing a portrait copy from a photo I had taken. She came into my room and asked if this was my girlfriend. I nearly told her it was in fact my boyfriend and later I realised that would have been the perfect time to shock her. I just replied no and said it was a friend. We two were together for about 3 years when we both parted, still loving each other. We found out years later that we both thought the other had lost his love for the relationship and we had both been wrong. But by this time it was a bit late, He had someone else and so did I. A sad story. I am sure my father would never have accepted it. At the age of around 20 I went into a gay bar and for the first time I felt FREE. It was amazing feeling that I had not felt before. Everybody was dancing with a boy. Take care and look after one another and listen if your partner wants to talk over a problem. Never judge!♥♥♥♥
Thank you for your wonderful comment.
@@ilustrafilms Thank you for your kind reply. I hope my comment may help others who may have been in the same situation and let them understand they are not alone. Hugs to you Alexandru for putting up this gay short movie. ❤🩹
Parents often don't understand and make the situation worse. They really should be assuring them that they support their choices and simply advise them to not get into trouble or hurt anyone.
I think the boy is really cute.
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OMG, yes!!! Isn't he as beautiful as any girl his age...if not more so.❤
@@jimcapatelli622 get together with each other and we can do whatever you want
@@jimcapatelli622 are you gay
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Strange film. First, mom scorns her son for exploring his sexuality and for getting caught kissing a boy he likes, then the story flip flops to a couple thieves, who ditch a wallet they stole, and it's found by the first boy as he bikes by it in an alley.
The best part, was his explanation to mom about playing truth or dare with his buddies and them undressing and touching their privates. Strange film.
I'm watching this and I just can't believe that a parent would make their son go through all this.
Thank you for your comment Leopoldo. Unfortunately the reality it’s even more cruel than this: some parents are (actively) wanting their son rather dead than gay.
Modern western society dictates to us that "child abuse" is when someone shows any form of love or affection for a young man( post puberty) or boy ( pre puberty). But this film is an excellent example of what REALLY is child abuse. Parents who feel they OWN their offspring and have every right to mold them into what THEY think they should be or do, without any regard to the youth's own nature or natural predisposition. This woman is injecting a horrible amount of shame unto this young man, simply because he kissed somebody????? Unreal. This woman is as bad as the worst kind of child molestor. Although she is made to appear intelligent, her disapproving gestures are so damaging to her son. The young man is shown to feel "guilty" for his activities, when in reality he had done nothing wrong. Western society, often perverted by religion, places love, affectionate, or sexual activity by their offspring in the same catergory as thievery or self destructing drug use or other anti social activity. They are quite distinct, with parents having no right to intervine in the romantic or sexual activity of their offspring. Of course, this is assuming that parents have given their children the neccessary education and information on hygiene, respect, and responsability from a young age. Unfortunately, most parents fail miserably at doing this.
Omw i thought i was the only one that just hot so impatient with the mother. I just didnt understand where all my anger was coming from towards her
I saw the thumbnail and thought, " is that Dan?"
Dayam, I would never be home if I had that many questions and speeches waiting for me.
So many questions left unanswered, and a good number of well thought out comments here (I especially liked "Ben W's" comment. In the first segment, the boy's mother seems to be in denial of the obvious. She wants to know the sexual details of her son and that comes across as perverted. Because the boy is meek and humble, she can get away with her controlling nature. One curiosity - I wonder if the first and last segments are connected. In the first segment, the boy's gay friend is Victor (5:45) and in the third, "Victor" appears in the open window above the couch at 34:16. Are they the same Victor's? I can't decide if I love or hate this film.
Hi Stuart M. Thank you for your comment. Indeed, Victor from the second segment is the same as the Victor that the mother says about. Hope this will help a bit. Thank you again!
15:32 Literally I am so uncomfortable because I know if I ever had to have this type of conversation with my parents it would be EXACTLY like this. I would be too uncomfortable to explain everything and I could just imagine myself in the same stance as him and WOW this is affecting me I just want to shout at the mum sometimes but I know she doesn't understand but she's trying and I love her for that. Unlike everyone else, I can see it entirely from the mums perspective and I'd be feeling so guilty too and as human beings are selfish I'm not surprised she thinks 'what did I do wrong?' but I'm so happy she accepts him anyways. I'd be so upset if this turned bad and she yelled at him for it. However the going to the dad thing was pretty bad, but I know my mum would do that too. As husband and wife, you have to tell each other these things, you are now one person and should trust each other with everything including this.
Thank you for the comment, CamoQueen_Official
I would just die
Totally die.
there may be an interesting story hidden in all this, but I'm struggling to find it.
It's a story about honesty and authenticity, about the conflict between personal truth and cultural, societal truth. When these are in conflict, then more conflicts are created. In the end, the mother, who understands nothing about her son, has committed herself to at least embark on the road to understanding -- long though it may be.
Awe wanna see part 2 lol this was good
SOCIETAL OPPRESSION BREEDS OBEDIENT SLAVES
Thanks for sharing this professionally produced, informative, revealing, educational short movie.
The characters in this short film evidently live in a very oppressive society. An oppressive society induces mental illness in its members.
The mother was experiencing cognitive dissonance (willful ignorance and lying to yourself) while she preached to her son about lying. She is hypocritical.
And the mother was manipulative when she interrogated her son and threatened to tell her husband/his father if her son did not tell her everything.
[6:07 -- 6 :15] Adi > "They (Adi's schoolmates who played together after school) said the American teens don't shower with their clothes on."
[6:33] Adi's Mother > "Wasn't there anyone smart enough to say that the Americans don't touch their genitals in the shower?"
Question 1: Who in the world showers with their clothes on? Are they washing their clothes or washing their bodies? Americans have private, enclosed showers in private bathrooms.
Question 2: How can an individual wash their genitals if they don't touch their genitals? It is natural hygiene.
Question 3: How did the mother become disinformed or misinformed that the Americans don't touch themselves in the shower? It is propaganda.
When I was in college many years ago in the USA, I lived in a male-only dormitory on campus my freshman year. The dorm had about 24 rooms in total with 12 rooms on each side of a long hallway and 2 student beds in each room. In the center of the dorm was a common room with chairs, tables and television. Also, in the center of the dorm was the entrance to a common shower room with about 10 shower heads and an adjacent room with a long row of wash basins (sinks), urinals and toilet stalls. Permanent, metal signs were prominently fixed to the walls of the shower room that stated: "DO NOT MASTURBATE IN THE SHOWERS -- IT CLOGS THE DRAINS". Most of the students did it, whether or not anyone was looking.
In this short film, why is the parent-child, sex-talk dynamic so important? What is ultimately at stake in this parent-child discussion? The three pillars of fascism are family, church and state, all of whom say to the individual: OBEY! OBEY! OBEY! It is the central message of George Orwell's dystopian book, "!984, a novel".
https ://www .allenandunwin .com /browse/books/academic-professional/politics-government/Mass-Psychology-of-Fascism-Wilhelm-Reich-9780285647015
Mass Psychology of Fascism
by Wilhelm Reich
The only authorised edition, translated from the original German.
Wilhelm Reich's classic study is a unique contribution to the understanding of one of the crucial phenomena of our times - fascism. Reich firmly repudiates the concept that fascism is the ideology or action of a single individual or nationality, or of any ethnic or political group. He also denies a purely socio-economic explanation as advanced by Marxian ideologists. He understands fascism as the expression of irrational character structure of the average human being whose primary biological needs and impulses have been suppressed for thousands of years.
The social function of this suppression and the crucial role played in it by the authoritarian family and the church are carefully analysed. Reich shows how every form of organised mysticism, including fascism, relies on the unsatisfied orgastic longing of the masses.
Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957) was an Austrian doctor of medicine and psychoanalyst. He wrote several books, most notably Character Analysis (1933), The Mass Psychology of Fascism (1933), and The Sexual Revolution (1936).
Thank you for your brilliant comment to the movie. It completed the plots and now all the people that ask questions in relation to the movie will be able to find your message (if they will search) and have (most of) their questions answered. Thank you again.
Foarte tare filmu'! Bravo! ❤
Multumesc!
I dont understand this movie. Well i dont understand alot of things so i cant really blame the movie
Thank you for the message.
Briefly
Mom: Do you like Viktor?
Son: ....
Mom: Bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla... Do you like Viktor?
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I fail to see the relationship between the first film (15 mins) and the second film (20 mins). Why wasn't this split into two short films?
How sweet this is going to be :)
Dennis Cambly I was fucking lost after the first scene ended
yea :D. the first Scene was interesting and good. but then it was a full cut with new persons, too Long Scenes where nothing happens, dont understand the thief Thing at all.
Dennis Cambly same -.-
I think, it's trying to show, that Adi has good morals, by returning the wallet items to the owner, while still reeling from the lecture from mom, and his thoughts/feelings for Victor. You can be a good person and be gay too.
Thank you all for all of your comments!
👌 wie alt ist der Film?von 200?
I didn't get the ending .I was waiting for Victor and Mom to have a discussion about the gay kiss and then it just ended? Otherwise a good film.And what did the credit card theft and return of the cards have to do with the story?
This was my parents attitude understanding with the big "but" how can we do something else after all it isn't "healthy."
Thanks for the comment, Nathan Riley
Be proud you captured the complexity of mother son talk. You feel the mother trying to understand and the pain of the boy as he witnessed it.
That's right lady, take your religious guilt and put it on your son. Make your son feel like he's done something wrong, so you can feel better about yourself. You have abandoned your role as a parent for not telling him that his feelings of love for another person are natural. This was sickening to watch. As usual, it all comes down to what she and her husband want.
Thanks Ray!!!! There are people still left with common sense!!!!
Wish you the best and stay well during this covid!!!!!
Maybe something was lost in translation, because I'm still trying to figure out if the mother in Adi's story was being terribly homophobic, or trying to be supportive, or both??? Either way she made Adi feel shame, whether intentionally or not, which I found upsetting and made me feel for the character.
Which is what good film making is all about, invoking emotion for believable characters...so I would have to say well done on this short film.
Thank you for your comment.
The joy of being told that your inner core of being is evil.
GOD created us gay. It is up to us to live life by HIS morals. One mate. Not two or more. Be faithful to your mate.
I actually thought Mom was really going to be a bitch but she turned out although disappointed to be understanding. Nice!! I remember when I came out and my Mom was not happy at all
I am sorry to read that about your mother. I hope all things are good now, between you two. Thank you for your comment, onlyget1!
Thank you :-) and things are much better now
But-- there are those tasty bittersweets..... ..
Im 12 and Gay tho and knew it When i was 10 and came out When i was 11
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@@alexdrabbs4036 wth
I knew that I was Gay at age 7.
Well done.
Gee mom. So sorry this is happening toYOU!!!
I was hoping to see some action with Adi and Victor.
I am sorry that you are disappointed. When I wrote the script is was interested in writing about the cultural experience of being gay and how we help each other grow spiritually. I don't think you will ever find in any of my future movies any kind of physical sexual intercourse. Thank you for the comment!
Hi Kate B. Thank you for your comment! My gay character is a hero. I think that says a lot :)
I was too. I'd like to see the boys play truth or dare, and kiss.
I live in America and when I was in high school,after gym class we would shower,30 naked guys taking showers and NO WE DID NOT TOUCH OUR GENITALS.
choro1981 But can you say how many would have liked to?
Liar!!! You may not have washed yours but I was soaping up mine while I was watching you!!!! Thanks by the way!!
When I was a kid, and I took a 🚿 at the Y and the college when Mom dropped me off to go swimming, I would always strip down and take a nude 🚿 with the other males.
The showers were communal 🚿 with no dividers.
There was no sexual activity, but we males would talk to each other while we were in the locker room.
And then, when I moved up to 7th grade, the junior high school locker room 🚿 were pole mounted, with 4 🚿 heads per pole, and two poles, and 6 🚿 heads on the long wall, with 2 🚿 heads each on the short walls.
I always 🧼 my body all over, then rinsed off, then walked back to my locker, where my towel and clothes were, dry off, and get dressed for my next class.
I never wanted to go to my next class all stinky either.
I loved exercising during P. E., then getting clean to be ready for the rest of the day.
Would be great to have English captions. The current ones are too small to see
Thank you for your comment. Working on it. :)
un chico es Hermoso sin percis o como mierda se llame y sin maquillage ,,, e s guapo no necesita mucho para demostrar el amor y el odio que retiene en su mente, porque su corazoncito es muy especial
I really don't get what the story through... The half first story is good, but the second one? I get confuse..
correct. the movie is not finished.
Mas, tudo espero ter um bom, final em ambos os lados da história. ! 💚❄💚❄💚❄💚❄💚❄💚❄💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💚❄💚❄💚❄💚❄💚❄❄♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
I am the father of 5 children, what they do between the sheets is their own business. If any of them are gay or stright, that is their business. It makes me angry to see such nonense. For fick sake, its the 21st century
lordmick roach there needs to be more parents like you I have 8 siblings and 2 of us are lgbt and my parents have dis owned (I can't remember how to spell it) us from the family.
Phantastic,That is very sad, your parents loss is your gain. I hope one day they can accept. One thing I notice is that Cristians quote the Bible, yes Leviticus said man with man is wrong but, Leviticus also says that you should not eat shell fish and I bet your parents eat them, it also states that troublesome wives should be beaten and sent back to their family. I wish you all the best and hope that you have a splendid future and meet a partner that is worthy!
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I liked it but I think I didn't understand some of it because it was lost in translation?
Hi, rc5chi. Thank you for your like. :)
Thank you for your message. I will upload if needed, a better-made subtitle over the old one.
You don't have to do that ? It was probably just me .. But I still enjoyed it.
Alexandru, I appreciate the English translation you have up
Thank you, shydreamguy :)
Painfully slow and really didn't go anywhere.The boy discusses being gay with his mom and yet there is no interaction between the boys after that.
Wait a sec, they shower with their clothes on, on the continent?
Brian NZ people in Romania are showering without clothes
There are so many countries in the world where men take public shower with underwear.
shocked me too. Must be some mistake?
I have always taken nude 🚿, whether it was at the communal pool like the Y,or the college,or after P.E. in junior high and high school, or at a friend's, relative's, or parents house or at my own house, after I moved out of my parents house.
I have always been comfortable with other people seeing my nude body, even from early childhood.
Nu ati gresit nicaieri ,nu te poti shimba ,lasatil sa fie fericit
I thought the first section was well done. As one that grew up when homosexuality was against the law and from what I remember Romania only changed its laws when it entered the EU I can see where the mother is coming from. Even today in Canada it is still difficult for some parents to accept a gay child and it always seems to be more difficult when that child is a boy and the only child.
Second half just to far removed from the first. It would have made more sense to me if we had seen how Victors parents dealt with him being gay. I understand what Alexandru was trying to portray but as I said too far removed. Takes an excellent short and detracts from the theme.
Thank you, James!
E in romanaaaa...😂😂😂😂🇷🇴🇷🇴
Multumesc de comentariu!
he is cute
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I think I get it. The second part is meant to demonstrate the character of the boy as someone who is kind, good, and willing to go out of his way to help a stranger, even when it would be easier not to. And that's before we are told that he's also the boy that Adi...loves? Is that fair to assume?
Thank you for your comment. What you see in the characters is yours to see and keep as a treasure. I can only say that the Victor from the second part is the same Victor that Adi loves. Thank you for your comment.
Mi sono innamorato di te sei bellissimo e bravissimo love alex italia ciao ciao ❤️ 🇮🇹
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what the hell was that ? 2 or 3 very short chopped films ? did mom ever finish with son ? who was the kid on the bike who found the wallet ? did the girl with the nipple erections ever take off her top in the cow field ? horrible mix up here ! i'm confused and wasted some time here.
Splendide
I didn't understand any of it, the actors were trying so hard to reach some level, but apparently they didn't achieve that goal.
The discussion between mother and son is the only part that contains any value for me .Many might wish for such a wise and righteous mum.The rest garbage i would say.
💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥o pensamento traz os desejos e os desejos nao sentes os passos da sortes.♥💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥💜♥♥♥♥♥♥
Tellmeallthe Détails,.. Yeah
The mother was all over the place. At one point she seems like she's trying to say I accept but her body language says something totally different and then these terrible words come out of her mouth. You can't tell your tea that you accept who they are and tell them that you love them and then say they're immoral at the same time. Terrible parenting from the character of the mother.
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠um bom curtá metragém tráz uma historias sobre á adolesentes perdidas nos trópicos da vida.,,🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠curta metragem bem realistico.,♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠bém drámatico!♠♠♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
Let him spread his wings wide open
David 🎳🚙🏡🤵👰 SOIMAIE
They shower with their clothes on...?
You can see how that mistake can be made...so many American movies, videos - show people in the shower or bath wearing towels, swim suits, bathing suits, bath robes...etc. Especially in old movies.
Plus, many Eastern Europeans get the mistaken belief that everyone from Western Europe are "Americans" - American movies have all those restriction (PG, PG-13, PG-18, Adult only, mature radiance only, no viewer under 13, no violence, no nudity, no sex - everything is regulated...unless its X, XXX-rated - but then its not suitable for distribution in the better or best theaters.
That's what I have always hated about our movies.
A little kid could be dropped off to watch a movie filled with blood and guts all over the place, and that's all right.
But, if anyone in range of the camera, decides to take a 🚿, or go skinny dipping, the christian prudes come out of the woodwork, chanting, "Killing is good !!!! Love is bad !!!"
Cause they are minor ,they can't see genital
After the awkward conversation between Adi and his mother, the film goes off the rails by introducing a number of irrelevant characters and at the end we see a second of Victor. Why after the talk we never see Adi and Victor together, which is what one would expect, is just disappointing.
Thank you for the comment. The fact that we don t see together Adi and Victor is because I wanted to portrait the true reality of our society: that in places on the planet (including the one Adi and Victor come from) it is very very hard for two gay man to really connect and create a bond. To go further and introduce the two girls at the end (there is this conversation debate that it’s much easier for two girls to create this bond). I hope I have given you a key and you will be able to find yourself the relevance of the other characters. Thank you again for your comment.
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠é no éntanto o.. que se passas no coraçao de um alguém tao bém jovial.,♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄🔷🔷🔷♠♠♠bons videos e um otimo curta metragem.♠♠♠♠🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄❄🔷🔷🔷🔷♠♠♠♠
FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE
After watching this short movie a second time, it becomes apparent that the Mother interrogates her son, Adi, but does not actively listen to him and does not observe the obvious clues about him. Adi and his mother fundamentally fail to communicate, and the failure is on his mother, not on Adi's attempt to maintain his legitimate privacy and be honest.
Adi is presented as a tall, lanky teen with long hair, pierced right-hand side eyebrow, pierced left-hand side ear stud, wearing a dark-purple colored t-shirt and wearing a rainbow colored bracelet on his right-hand side wrist. The first impression is that Adi appears to be an "emo-boy" in his demeanor, tone and body language, and his clothes and jewelry are consistent with the emo style. Most students and many others recognize the rainbow pattern as the symbol of the LGBTQ+ movement, and the "emo" style as representing a person who is more emotional and sensitive than others.
Adi's mother does not hear or see any of this when she interrogates him, or maybe she chooses to ignore it because it is too threatening to her cherished values and beliefs.
Adi is caught kissing Victor, his classmate and desk-mate, in the school toilet after school, and his form teacher informs his mother. His mother interrogates him and tells him that she does not think it is wrong for teenagers to masturbate, and to want to know themselves, to wish to discover, to explore, to experiment and to be curious. In response to her direct question, Adi tells her that he and other friends used to meet at Victor's house or other friends' place after school, where they played "Truth or Dare", and they started kissing and touching each other on their genitals, rarely when any girls were involved; and they undressed and touched each other's naked genitals (maybe while in the shower), all of which they did voluntarily by mutual consent.
The mother obtusely tells Adi: 'Your father is very upset and disappointed." ... "It's very hard for me to understand that my only son might be gay." ... "Your other parent, God, sees everything you do."
The Mother, continuing her inquisition of Adi, asks: "Do you like Victor?" Adi responds by silently nodding his head, "Yes." And he calmly, patiently, kindly says: "We feel good with who we are. We don't do it just because we like it." ... "I get along with all of the girls in my classroom, and some of them know that I am gay and like Victor." Adi is the adult in this conversation with his mother who seems infantilized regardless of her purported good intentions to protect Adi.
This excellent, well-constructed film could serve as a Public Service Announcement to parents everywhere in all nations, cultures and societies, and throughout the generations. As it now stands, public sex education for teenagers consists more of "Just Say No" and fearmongering with very little, balanced, accurate, practical information, equivalent to the "Reefer Madness" movie for recreational drug education. As a result, many if not most teenagers learn about sex from watching videos at online pornography sites, such as pr0nhub and ch4terb4te. All teenagers deserve better.
Thank you so much for your comment. It is indeed one of the most elaborated, well structured, correct impression review on the movie all time putting it right next to the critic’s view on the movie. When I made this movie, I wanted to speak about society for the society and now this movie is needed as it was needed 10 years ago. I wish this movie would not be needed anymore and that the society I am coming from does (would have made) the needed progress and along with all culture and societies. Having to visit countries I know now, happily, that this movie is NOT needed in some cultures/ societies. And they need to become inspiration for other cultures and societies. Thank again for your comment. I can now see that the actors work and the team’s work is well reworded! Because before the critic’s views, normal people of the society need to see arts value when needed.
The first part, mother and son , is truly excellent. In acting, reacting, gestures passing those long seconds and minutes. It's a surprise and an honor to see you are the maker of this movie. I see it as a timeless piece, even in these so-called emancipated days. All this has been going on and will in the future as well. Brilliantly, intelligently portrayed. For once, a film with substance. Ardy calls it a failure to communicate, I call it truthful. Adi claims his spot, respectfully. The mother will come around. At heart, both share the high ground in their views and rules and all. Great stuff, how did you pull this off?
@@maync1 hi. Thank you so so much for your comment. I am very glad all the work is paid of even after all this time. We knew and felt on the set we are doing something important and special. The credits for the end resolute belongs to all involved. There is much to be said about the movie but there is a trivia section on the IMDB page of the movie so I will add here the link to it and hope you will find information that is useful to you 🙂. m.imdb.com/title/tt2165567/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv. If you still have questions after feel free to add them here. Take care. 🤗
OMG..the mother wss too calm. Once he told her the truth.. I expect her to do something... like put him out or send to bed with no dinner or something. The other parts just didn't make any sense. Characters didn't interact except for Victor and the couple. 🤷🏽♂️I would say more but rather say less...🙄
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If my Mom started to demand I tell to her about my girls friend ored boy friend for that matters and what we were doing when we were aloned, I would tell her to bak off. It is noned of her business who do I see excepted to if I do need helped. She cand ask me stuff but demand that I do tell to her who I do liked or loved and too what sex I am having? No way, unlessed I do wished to tell it. And I did tell to my father that when he started to get too personal about who wased my girls friend and what we did together.
i had a mothe rlike this i dod not see her for years
I am sorry for that, Juanito SVE. Thank you very much for your comment!
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠GAROTO BONITO ESSE.., BEIJOS GOSTEI.,♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
Sei bellissimo love alex italia ciao ciao ❤️ 🇮🇹
Nice. Becky like it. Super video. Nu ma așteptăm sa fie in Romana
Multumesc, Becky :) Am un scenariu de lungmetraj pe aceasi tema.
@@ilustrafilms Super. În ce an a fost filmat, ca pare cam vechi.
@@beckylynch2754 In Nov 2010- Jan 2011 - a fost prima generatie de filme independente filmate pe Canon 5D. Gasesti mai multe informatii cool www.imdb.com/title/tt2165567/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
Yes this movie is not finished, it is a kaleidoscope. The boy on the bike seems to be Victor, so that is a connection with the first part of the movie. But there is no development of any kind, no continuity. Two girls suddenly show up. ? No connection with anything. No, we cannot really enjoy this movie. 0.5 star. It leaves the viewer in total doubt.. what have I seen? What is this movie trying to do?
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠👍pórém.. na vida tém déssas coisas bátedores de carteiras... é o.. que nao faltas!,,👍♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠
"This is just some phase you're going through..."
Mom talking way to much and not enough action
imi pare rau, poate sunt eu mai incult asa, da' ma jur ca nu am inteles mai nimic din videou' asta...si am avut rabdarea sa ma uit pana la final...
Sei fighissimo un amore alex italia ciao ciao ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ti amo tanto tanto loveyou da alex 😛
I thought it was a good lesson for both teen and parent
Thank you for your comment!
You're Quite Welcomed , enjoyed it very much
Bonitinho.., este rapaz, bem como tem belezas naturais masculinas! Ótimo vídeos. ! ♠💜♠💜♠♠💜♠💜♠💜♠💜♠💜♠💜♠💜♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠
The Americans do it too. ;)
We do everything!!!!