Margaret Thatcher: Britain’s Greatest Prime Minister… or its Worst?

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    Source/Further reading:
    Guardian obituary: www.theguardian.com/politics/...
    Falklands War: www.historyextra.com/period/2...
    Falklands and Thatcher: www.history.com/news/margaret...
    Miners’ Strike: www.history.co.uk/article/how...
    Thatcher and Northern Ireland: www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-...
    Mountbatten Assassination: www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv...
    The Big Bang: www.bbc.com/news/business-377...
    Deregulation? www.theguardian.com/business/...
    Thatcher and Gorbachev: www.themoscowtimes.com/2015/1...
    Europe conundrum: www.theguardian.com/politics/...
    Thatcher’s downfall: in.reuters.com/article/britai...
    Poll tax: www.bbc.com/news/uk-38382416
    NYT review of her authorized bio, good details: www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/bo...
    FT version of the above (paywall): www.ft.com/content/059393b0-f...
    Andrew Marr on the same: www.newstatesman.com/Margaret...
    Thatcher and climate change: theecologist.org/2018/aug/21/...
    Oxford University: www.ox.ac.uk/news/2013-04-09-...
    Wilson Resignation: www.bbc.co.uk/archive/harold_...

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  • @Biographics
    @Biographics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

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    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thatcher and Boris have been the best
      For Scottish independence
      Indyref2 in twenty twenty-two
      🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Take Back Control 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @PureVikingPowers
      @PureVikingPowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do *Marquis de Sade* next?

    • @TheBorderRyker
      @TheBorderRyker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PureVikingPowers he was a pussycat compared to Thatcher! 😂

    • @johnjosephdejesus8524
      @johnjosephdejesus8524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do ferdinand marcos next

    • @ksanthoula
      @ksanthoula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Will you make a video about soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev ??

  • @Braddowski
    @Braddowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3650

    Despite being the 2nd highest selling single in the week following Thatcher's death, 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' was banned from the official charts and radio airplay.

    • @Dan19870
      @Dan19870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +342

      This biography brought back memories of the day she died. After my shift I got home and played 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' on TH-cam. The video had been uploaded years ago, yet most of the comments section was recent, comments like (IIRC) 'This will be in the charts by the end of the week', 'I bet a lot of people are listening to this today.' and 'She's been in hell a couple of hours and she's already shut down three furnaces.' A 'controversial figure' in British history to say the least.

    • @adder3597
      @adder3597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +361

      @@Dan19870 "She's been in Hell only a couple of hours, and yet she's already shut down three furnaces".
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @HarryWessex
      @HarryWessex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It was artificially removed from 1st.

    • @adder3597
      @adder3597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@HarryWessex Yep. Good old BBC at it again 🤦‍♂️

    • @HarryWessex
      @HarryWessex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@adder3597 It was Offical Charts, not the BBC.

  • @erictheroman5813
    @erictheroman5813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3409

    "Im Simon Whistler and i have a comment section deathwish"

    • @marvin3242
      @marvin3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Comment section controversy = algorithm delight

    • @marvin3242
      @marvin3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zzt62 hahahahaha oof

    • @jbtechcon7434
      @jbtechcon7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, what the heck are information channels thinking when they tell us about things we don't want to know???

    • @llwydanwyl
      @llwydanwyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      zzzzzzzzzzzzzz lamewad

    • @DIOsNotDead
      @DIOsNotDead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Smash the dislike button." -Simon Whistler

  • @rai351
    @rai351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    She was actually very progressive. Her grave was the first gender neutral bathroom.

    • @deanp831
      @deanp831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      😂😂😂

    • @felixthecat3n2
      @felixthecat3n2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment is disgraceful. It’s time you grew up.

  • @projectbaron1420
    @projectbaron1420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    In Korea Thatcher is in a very interesting position. Left-wing supporters like her as they consider her to be a strong female leader who inspired women to take more active role in politics. On the other hand, Right-wing supporters like her as they consider her to be a strong conservative leader who brought stability and bravely fought against an enemy without hesitation. So baisically most people in Korea have a positive view towards her and her quote is used a lot as an inspiration.

    • @etlttc353
      @etlttc353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      bruh

    • @echidnanatsuki882
      @echidnanatsuki882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      One of the rare situations were both Leftists and Right-wingers could agree on XD.

    • @ominousparallel3854
      @ominousparallel3854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      South Korea is thus wiser than a large part of the world, for she is the greatest post war politician bare none.

    • @CalebZ26
      @CalebZ26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ominousparallel3854 LOL like a president that supports INSANE work weeks and a country with Insane suicide rates... America is next.

    • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
      @user-yv2cz8oj1k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@ominousparallel3854 talking bollox.

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4709

    You told both sides and didn't pull any punches. Presented the way history should be taught.

    • @abbaszaidi8371
      @abbaszaidi8371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Absolutely- spot on

    • @lukeguy6091
      @lukeguy6091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      He stated one side and not the humane one. Eat your parents money.

    • @BlackfyreHD
      @BlackfyreHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

      @SoyBoy Industries She wasn't a Nazi, nor a fascist, she was a a hardline Conservative. Just because she was politically right wing does not make her a Nazi. smh.

    • @BlackfyreHD
      @BlackfyreHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @SoyBoy Industries Hop down off that high horse. The Left wing have committed genocides over the past 80 years that have left over 100 million dead. Still happening today with China, but dont believe your lying eyes right?

    • @nayelhuda6945
      @nayelhuda6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @SoyBoy Industries Firstly she didn't engage in genocide
      secondly, she made the UK a relevant force in the world again.
      Thirdly, she weakened overpowered unions
      Thatcher was a hero, feel free to prove me wrong
      Also a key component of facism is authoritarianism which if u know anything about thatcher, you know she was not authoritarian

  • @henryreinecke6036
    @henryreinecke6036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2644

    Most of the cost of her funeral was due to the security measures that had to be put in place to keep her in her grave

    • @cprow0997
      @cprow0997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      lol

    • @shakiMiki
      @shakiMiki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Her & Blair are much more popular abroad than at home.

    • @fls6767
      @fls6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Henry Your point being?

    • @annescholey6546
      @annescholey6546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      To stop the cheering ex miners sending her head to Port Stanley?

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yea all of the miners wanted to piss on her body 🤣🤣

  • @yeoss
    @yeoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +521

    My dad once called her "the greatest woman to ever exist",
    Which is funny because this is the same man who told me a government isn't a business and shouldn't be ran like one.

    • @Bond58
      @Bond58 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      She didn’t run the government like a business, she ran the economy like one. Big difference.

    • @jeffturner2102
      @jeffturner2102 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes an my dad said, may she R!!! in H!!!!

    • @baph0met
      @baph0met ปีที่แล้ว

      Government shouldn't be run at all, it's evil and useless.

    • @SergyMilitaryRankings
      @SergyMilitaryRankings ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@Bond58 which is why she screwed things

    • @mattthesilent777RED
      @mattthesilent777RED ปีที่แล้ว

      This devil woman ruined things - worst PM ever

  • @jean-christophe5788
    @jean-christophe5788 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Simon glossed over the "Right to buy" policy's details. Councils were forbidden from using the proceeds to build more social housing - sowing some of the seeds of today's housing problems.

    • @yayfly7349
      @yayfly7349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its was a good political move but not a good economic one

  • @jordanbluett1308
    @jordanbluett1308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2205

    As an American, I feel like I stepped in the wrong comment section....

  • @joaoeduardoortega64
    @joaoeduardoortega64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1144

    One small correction, the UK never declared war on argentina formaly, as that would have triggered some UN discussions in the security council

    • @ChrisShute62
      @ChrisShute62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Correct. The affair has always been referred to (by UK governments and mainstream media, at least) as the "Falklands Conflict". Soldiers fought and died, but perhaps it didn't sound so ugly as war.

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Has any country issued a formal declaration of war since the creation of the UN? It's all be police actions, military advice, interventions and other euphemisms for kicking the crap out of another country.

    • @spudeeelad
      @spudeeelad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@paranoidrodent they have but not in the last 30-40 years. Largely because declaring war under UN rules causes all sorts of issues such as not being to have your boats dock in any neutral country etc

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@spudeeelad Yep. It pretty much screws up a lot of trade with anyone neutral power too (because a hell of a lot can be interpreted as war materials given the technology involved in today's military hardware).

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ps... Legally, only the queen start a UK war.

  • @Will0398
    @Will0398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    It’s funny how Europeans know so much about American politics but not vise versa in the slightest.

    • @embassadorjohn1368
      @embassadorjohn1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      We're very self centered people

    • @rockstar-kp2jy
      @rockstar-kp2jy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Bc we don't care about England ?

    • @TheOneTrueGhostyBoi
      @TheOneTrueGhostyBoi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah because Americas the most important why would politics from other countries affect us? But every single piece of our news or political dealings have Eurotrash trying to add their opinion

    • @x-angry-x7108
      @x-angry-x7108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockstar-kp2jyyou mericans care only about yourselves and Thats why the whole world think That youre not the brightset people and whole of Europe makes fun of you! Ignorant dumbfucks

    • @cambino66
      @cambino66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The US's entertainment industry is the most successful globally, thus bringing attention to it politics (pretty much entertainment at this point lmao). My guess for why Americans don't care for foreign politics is the same reason none of us travel to foreign countries. The US is MASSIVE. Different states have wildly different laws. There is a extreme array of different interesting political discourse all over the country that would take a lifetime to cover the history of.

  • @i.p.956
    @i.p.956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The north of England and Wales are still bleeding because of her policies. She is the reason there are no council houses for people who are in need and are currently homeless. Because of her hatred of the middle and lower classes, people today are on a 10-year list waiting for a council property because she sold them all at a laughable price. Most of the houses bought with right to buy are now worth millions!
    Policies from the 70-ies and 80-ies that were her idea are the reason the UK today is becoming a third world country. She lacked vision of the future, she dealt with the problems like a war zone surgeon - if you are wounded, they just cut the limb off, rather than looking for a way to preserve it and help you.

    • @truthismycause2800
      @truthismycause2800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well said.

    • @abundantharmony
      @abundantharmony 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pffft, forced immigration is why England is a 3rd world country. You are delusional.

  • @stevegoodson9022
    @stevegoodson9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2043

    I was one of the 70's kids from a fairly por working class family who had my free school milk snatched.. At the same time schools went from serving free meals to all children to making the 'poor' kids pay for their meals with special vouchers, which made you such a target for bullies Thatcher herself might as well have turned up and pointed and laughed at your poverty.

    • @chip9649
      @chip9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      Glad she's dead

    • @nayelhuda6945
      @nayelhuda6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@chip9649 How does it feel to have the IQ of a rabbit turd?

    • @chip9649
      @chip9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

      @@nayelhuda6945 rather have a low IQ then have no heart.

    • @nayelhuda6945
      @nayelhuda6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@chip9649 like saying ur glad someones dead, very thoughtless

    • @karlosthejackel69
      @karlosthejackel69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      The milk was a developmental issue when it came in, ritual kids no longer need milk to aid their bones growth. She took my milk too, get a grip you victim.

  • @khar12d8
    @khar12d8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +903

    As a general rule, places that suffered industrial decline (parts of the north, Scotland, Midlands and South Wales) hate her and places that didn't think she was pretty good. It's that simple really.

    • @georgejob7544
      @georgejob7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Stock broker belt i.e. the Home Counties. Fat cat country!
      Dribble down economics, into their fat chubby hands ! Greed!

    • @mattatron3152
      @mattatron3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@georgejob7544 It's the same with the Rust Belt here in the US-some economic trends supersede 1 politician. No amount of regulation and socialism is going to keep the US or British manufacturing bases competitive with the developing world...

    • @lirrobinson8377
      @lirrobinson8377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@mattatron3152 no amount of free trade is going to keep U.S. and British manufacturing bases competitive with developing nations. Well, unless you get rid of the 8hr workday, insurance, overtime, living wages, vacation, child labor laws, ect....

    • @mattatron3152
      @mattatron3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@lirrobinson8377 I totally agree, but that was my point whether or not you caught it. Neither a regulatory policy or repealing of regulatory policies on free trade is going to reverse the trend of lower skilled manufacturing jobs going to developing economies. Developed economies such as the US and Britain are going to continue to lose jobs in these sectors in the future and gain jobs in sectors such as tech, financial services, and healthcare regardless of what any politician does....

    • @scottjock
      @scottjock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your right and her legacy and the idiots currently in the labour party are the main reasons SNP do so well.

  • @AmayaHyuga13
    @AmayaHyuga13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    As an American, I wanted to learn about this controversial leader when all I knew was that people either loved her or hated her. I knew I could count on you to provide a nonbiased and truthful account

    • @goated3285
      @goated3285 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yea but now I understand why she was so disliked

    • @yegfreethinker
      @yegfreethinker ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Truth is often like beauty in the eye of the beholder. Never take anyone's word for it. Discover your own opinion through empiricism.

    • @azzor4134
      @azzor4134 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yegfreethinker google empiricism

    • @king.indigo3692
      @king.indigo3692 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@goated3285qn I also understand why she wad so beloved as well. Also only PM who's funeral that Queen attended....and they were not known for being best friends

    • @williammerkel1410
      @williammerkel1410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      As an American I have a very high opinion of her, she was a strong leader and they were sorely needed during the Cold War

  • @sm00ly22
    @sm00ly22 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "The worst part about pissing on my grave is that you eventually run out of piss" - Margaret Thatcher

    • @tomace7924
      @tomace7924 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t ever worry about that mate. There are enough former miners and their families in the UK to continue pissing on Maggie’s grave well into the next century.

    • @user-po2qb6cm9q
      @user-po2qb6cm9q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thatcher has no grave. She was cremated

    • @randombritishperson.
      @randombritishperson. หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-po2qb6cm9qReally? Did they shower her with a bucket of water to cremate her?

  • @morrischma9565
    @morrischma9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1000

    I never understood before this video why my Gran, a teacher, hates her but my other Gran and Grandad (minor business owners) liked her.

    • @jimmy2k4o
      @jimmy2k4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      Trust the private sector.
      They understand pragmatic economics more than a teacher.

    • @joseffthomas10
      @joseffthomas10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Thatcher is a complex figure.

    • @bradleyrocks618
      @bradleyrocks618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Don't trust a teacher just because. That's what's wrong with America. You have commies convincing the youth that that's the future when in reality it will destroy our economy and way of life.

    • @joseffthomas10
      @joseffthomas10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@bradleyrocks618 Commies?
      The Cold War is over Yankee, they lost. The people who you refer to as “Commies” are either fakes or (more likely) people you happen to not like.

    • @bradleyrocks618
      @bradleyrocks618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@joseffthomas10 china is run by communists. Commies didn't just disappear because the Soviet Union did. We are literally being run by Chinese sympathizers.

  • @WIDBAU
    @WIDBAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1055

    I’m a Londoner, whose parents are both Irish. Thatcher is a swear word in our family.

    • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
      @reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Like how is it used? As a swear word on its own or in replacement of another word like the F word ?

    • @lemonorangegrape999
      @lemonorangegrape999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      @J LD you seem to 😂

    • @WIDBAU
      @WIDBAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@reythejediladyviajakku6078 similar to the modern day ‘Karen’... describing someone as a ‘thatcher’

    • @WIDBAU
      @WIDBAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lemonorangegrape999 so true 😂

    • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
      @reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@WIDBAU I like that so much better than Karen cuz I know women named Karen who are awesome. Thatcher is a much better name for someone who acts like a “Karen “

  • @ubergnu
    @ubergnu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I will always remember when my originally Irish coworker came back from lunch, looking shell shocked, barely being able to speak. Our CEO apparently mentioned that he considered Thatcher a good person and what she did was right. I guess he was lucky my mate is a really chill person, that could get you a fork to the eyeball otherwise.

    • @iggyzeta9755
      @iggyzeta9755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That CEO is right and your Irish friend is a pathetic individual.

    • @thomasbennett712
      @thomasbennett712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iggyzeta9755 Absolutely, what a sad twat.

    • @JavaScrapper
      @JavaScrapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      “COME OUT YE BLACK AN TANS COME OUT AN FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN!”
      “GO ON HOME BRITISH SOLDIERS GO ON HOME! HAVE YOU GOT NOT ******* OF YOUR OWN! FOR 800 WE FOUGHT YOU WITHOUT FEARS! AND WE’LL FIGHT YOU FOR 800 MORE!”
      This has been some lyrics from Irish republican songs lol
      I bet his head was just this trying to keep calm

    • @Dave-hu5hr
      @Dave-hu5hr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JavaScrapper 🥔

    • @deiniolbythynnwr926
      @deiniolbythynnwr926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JavaScrapper Meanwhile the IRA hide behind women and children.

  • @kavinkelly6540
    @kavinkelly6540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this channel! So much I've learned about history from here!

  • @ealives5272
    @ealives5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1405

    “Do you think Margret thatcher had girl power?”

    • @eoghan.5003
      @eoghan.5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

      @Mister crustacean Do you think she effectively utilized girl power by funnelling money into illegal paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland?

    • @sarahfatima5131
      @sarahfatima5131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      @@eoghan.5003 “I don’t know about that”

    • @danieltsiprun8080
      @danieltsiprun8080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@eoghan.5003 i mean it is still power.

    • @jameshill3403
      @jameshill3403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Biographics: Eric Andre

    • @user-sc9oy1kz8g
      @user-sc9oy1kz8g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Death squads to fight terrorists and murderers. One sec let me grab my tissue so I can pretend to shed a tear.

  • @TARmedia
    @TARmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +942

    But for real, It is EXTREMELY hard to find unbiased content on TH-cam, and this just really is spot on. I don't think I've ever seen a channel with less of a political bias. Big ups for that. Telling history as it happened, as opposed to framing it for a biased narrative. I love it.

    • @andrewsutherland133
      @andrewsutherland133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      My experience with this channel is they catter to their audiences.
      With their videos on beloved figures like JFK, they go over the top in glorifying them to the point when some things aren't even true, while the their video on hated individuals like Bill Cosby are written to specifically cherry pick parts of their lives that highlight how crappy they are.
      With controversial people like thatcher and Trump, they're careful to be unbiased because if they don't, they'll lose a chunk of their audience.
      I'm still a long time subscriber because they bring light to interesting people, but I take everything with a grain of salt until I research it myself

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@andrewsutherland133 Congratulations. You’ve got the point, entirely.

    • @biakahmar9171
      @biakahmar9171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andrewsutherland133 love your attitude

    • @TheHorseshoePartyUK
      @TheHorseshoePartyUK ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very mixed character Thatcher. Some very backwards views, some very forward-thinking ones, some inspirational quotes like "It is not the creation of wealth that is wrong, but the love of money for it's own sake". Some controversies mired in propaganda from both her triggered haters and the 'opposite' bootlickers, and whether anyone likes it or not, the people of the Falklands said they were British at the time, and the Argentina Junta was a military dictatorship who played stupid games and won stupid prizes. The Belgrano was a credible threat no matter who splits hairs over what issue.
      A very little known, as yet unsubstantiated rumour is that we had nuclear subs ready off the coast of Argentina, and that we were somewhat ready to turn Buenos Aires into glass.
      So Thatcher in a nutshell, as much as it's possible to oversimplify that very complex woman;
      Great: She was a chemist and so saw the need to push Climate Action and try take the issue away from the wrongheaded Marxists
      Good: Her casino capitalism helped fund the NHS and her election victory helped remove the taste for Bolshevism from Brits who never even learned the history of *BRITISH* Socialism and had no clue just how terrible Stalin and Mao were.
      Mixed: Her experiments in privatising things and semi-privatising, such as the trains has been a failure nobody else wants to replicate. We now have the taxpayer subsidise wealthy corporates whilst we also pay for tickets.
      Bad: She was a bit of a nasty bigot at times who went too far in pulling the union's teeth, even as they were a bit too uppity at the time
      Terrible: Her opinions of Nelson Mandela were quite wrongheaded, even if he was quite Marxist and used 'freedom fighter' tactics initially.
      "Russian Communism is the illegitimate child of Karl Marx and Catherine the Great" - Sir Clement Attlee.

    • @Butterratbee
      @Butterratbee ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Saying that thatcher was horrible, is unbiased

  • @ieuanbriers
    @ieuanbriers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love your US presidents videos. Could you consider doing more about UK prime ministers. There are many other 20th century you deserve them I've looked at apart from Neville Chamberlain, Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher.
    Would you consider doing one on: David Lloyd George, Clement Attlee, Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Harold Wilson and Edward Heath?
    I would love to know more about them.

    • @newuser4263
      @newuser4263 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah

  • @jfpk114
    @jfpk114 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In 2002 I was working in the former Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Charles Haugheys house. In the house he had a bar at the end of a corridor, with photos of all the world leaders he met over the years. Gorbachev, Reagen, Chirac and way more than I can remember.. At the end of this corridor on its own was a picture of Maggie. He told me she was the most stubborn person he'd ever met, wouldn't do what was good for the Troubles, wouldn't do a deal to find peace in Northern Ireland and he hated her for it but he also respected her in a weird way.
    She really wasn't for turning.

  • @alpacatears
    @alpacatears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +885

    It's poetic that she harked on about only sleeping 4 hours a night when this is the one of biggest modifiable risk factors for dementia.

    • @timmyg44
      @timmyg44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      which she didnt have

    • @alpacatears
      @alpacatears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@timmyg44 even her daughter as well as other family members confirmed that she did.

    • @ryanblob3105
      @ryanblob3105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Bit of a stretch to criticise her health habits, considering she lived a good few years beyond typical life expectancy and dementia is extremely common among people that age. It's statistically correct to say that you probably won't live as long as she did.

    • @marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb6760
      @marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      She did this because she loved her country so much.

    • @flame1154
      @flame1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I take issue with your terming it "poetic", I don't think there's much poetic about such an awful disease. But I agree that sleep is something we should value more and not less in society.

  • @jimmy2k4o
    @jimmy2k4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Simon: are you sure we should leave this comment section open?
    Ken: Let them fight!

    • @jimmy2k4o
      @jimmy2k4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @Apollo-684
      @Apollo-684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimmy2k4o are you ok

    • @edwinsparda7622
      @edwinsparda7622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that was Johnny Sins with a beard.

  • @FarhanAmin1994
    @FarhanAmin1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was, as others have also echoed, a masterclass in presenting (a subset of) recent history with adequate enthusiasm but not a cheap, monolithic agendum. Hear, hear.

  • @FerrisLedbetter
    @FerrisLedbetter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Modern news media needs to take a class from Simon and his team on how to present information. This was a fine example of impartial and factual reporting. Presenting the good and the bad in a non-coercive manner, leaving the final judgement to the viewer. Keep up the great work Simon and Co. Truly refreshing history telling.

  • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
    @reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    I love how supportive her husband was. It wasn’t very common back then to have ambitions and have your husband backing you up all the way

    • @JC-bd5ho
      @JC-bd5ho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it was.

    • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
      @reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@JC-bd5ho really? What are some examples?

    • @georgejob7544
      @georgejob7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Support from her husband??? A corrupted business man!
      Talk sense !

    • @markchambers3833
      @markchambers3833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Sir Dennis Thatcher, Bt was a successful businessman and multi-millionaire. He knew his place and stayed resolutely out of politics, like every other PM's spouse in history. (Except, of course, for Cherie Blair who insisted on using her unelected position to meddle in public affairs.)
      It's only considered remarkable with Sir Dennis because he was a man and Lady Thatcher was a phenomenon the like of which had never been seen before in the UK. A good husband supports his wife and a good wife supports her husband. Sir Dennis was a good husband who enjoyed a high flying independent career.
      Not quite sure where Simon gets the idea that he was a bumbler. He was a shrewd operator, highly intelligent, who was adept at deflecting attention from himself; the Thatchers both reached the top of their respective fields.

    • @icemanire5467
      @icemanire5467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was constantly pissed drunk to even give a shite.

  • @silatrakd
    @silatrakd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Informative and relatively unbiased, well done

  • @glr4275
    @glr4275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your style of telling history events. You remond me of Simon Shama who I truly loved ☺️ Thanks!

  • @benrogan927
    @benrogan927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +907

    Watching the olympic swimming at a bar and someone asked me “what’s my favourite stroke?”
    Apparently “Margaret Thatcher” wasn’t an acceptable answer

    • @timcurtis2021
      @timcurtis2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      has to be the breast stroke

    • @murrayscott9546
      @murrayscott9546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Reminds me of that time when a pretty, female streaker ran across the green when Tiger was trying to putt in. Everybody had to take a one-stroke penalty.

    • @kennethfrawley
      @kennethfrawley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ben Rogan, wow! That simply is a brilliant answer. I have been chuckling for 20 minutes. So clever, yet so true. Well done, you!

    • @AlcoholicBoredom
      @AlcoholicBoredom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1) It was probably pity laugh.
      2) You mean someone still watches the Olympics? You must be even drunker than me.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Made me snort

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    1:30 - Chapter 1 - A man's world
    5:00 - Chapter 2 - The iron lady
    8:55 - Mid roll ads
    10:25 - Chapter 3 - From the jaws of defeat
    13:35 - Chapter 4 - Battles & troubles
    17:25 - Chapter 5 - The big bang & beyond
    20:35 - Chapter 6 - Downfall

  • @dariogomes3598
    @dariogomes3598 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the knowledge

  • @Mashford42
    @Mashford42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear Simon, My father was a scholar of British and French political history, so I grew up (whether in NYS, Oxfordshire, or Paris) fairly inundated with Thatcher &c. But only YOUR presentation made me giggle on the topic.

  • @naly202
    @naly202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    I remember as 6 year old girl in then communist Romania I heard my family feverishly talk about Thatcher. In spite of the heavy censorship, people in my country knew about her speeches. Very soon after that (December 1989 revolution) communism fell. She was definitely one piece in that puzzle.

    • @onwardupward9392
      @onwardupward9392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Read about Thatcher and Sir Jimmy Savile

    • @sarahjessicafarter7383
      @sarahjessicafarter7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Since then you've had neoliberalism turning your nation into a dungheap. Out of the frying pan and into the fure.

    • @technationuk5802
      @technationuk5802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@sarahjessicafarter7383 Leftist rubbish, coming from a person who has never had to live under Communist rule. IQ 50.

    • @parabird7528
      @parabird7528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HAHAHAHAHAHHA Romenia after communism

    • @mikekaroules2820
      @mikekaroules2820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please Naly , share and speak out against socialist atrocities in countries like Romania because it is apparent that these left wing radicals and marxists have found new soil to breed revolution , and they are doing it in Western nations. These radicals and left wing socialists want to turn countries like England , the USA , Switzerland and Germany into the way Romania used to be under Nikolai Ceasescu [ however you spell his name ] .

  • @De_Tjiminator
    @De_Tjiminator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Make a geographics video about the troubles. I would love to hear more about that

    • @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
      @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Because making one about Thatcher isn't divisive enough?

    • @TomCL-vb6xc
      @TomCL-vb6xc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. Wouldn’t say this video is that divisive. There aren’t many people in the UK besides pompous codgers that don’t take utter glee in Thatcher decomposing.

    • @paddystrongjaw9995
      @paddystrongjaw9995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TomCL-vb6xc most of them are just 13 year olds anyway

    • @thehummusgavemeaids1596
      @thehummusgavemeaids1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TomCL-vb6xc You sound like an Argentine

    • @stevewilliams1819
      @stevewilliams1819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Visit Ireland and mention thatchers name if u want to hear about the troubles. Trust me you will get a much better understanding of it than you would from an englishman.

  • @Ramonaew
    @Ramonaew ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video, very informational

  • @tjschoenlein5189
    @tjschoenlein5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Her and Winston Churchill were political giants in my view. Have their books and lived during their time in office.

    • @R_t-99
      @R_t-99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Churchill was same look what he did in india.

    • @L_back
      @L_back หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@R_t-99What *he* did? Or some random politicians and Japan? Trust me man, Churchill isn’t perfect, but if the axis won, India wouldn’t exist

    • @R_t-99
      @R_t-99 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@L_back shut up just shut up. Isn't best lol he is probably still burning in hellfire

  • @ollyb7570
    @ollyb7570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    I’m too young to remember Thatcher but always interesting that depending who you talk to she was either a monster or saviour. Popular culture in the UK definitely leans towards monster (at least among the left leaning and young), but then she won three elections and was succeeded by another conservative PM, so it’s obviously not as clear cut as some make out. Other than the poll tax (since replaced by her successor with the Council Tax) I understand a lot of her other unpopular policies were started by previous Labour administrations - like coal mine closures and school milk. I also can’t help see the irony that people who criticise her for closing the mines would support the same policy now, only on environmental grounds. Really interesting and complex period in UK history.

    • @georgehoffman3439
      @georgehoffman3439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I’ve worked with a couple of old northern miners, they ended up moving to Indonesia to mine coal. Majority of the power back then was done by coal, now it’s 1%. Everyone has their own reason to hate or love her.

    • @LocseryuOfficial
      @LocseryuOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@georgehoffman3439 yeah im guessing back then we didnt have a very good alternative to coal

    • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
      @user-yv2cz8oj1k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      She won three elections because of our first past the post system and the fact they rigged the boundaries through the boundary commission, I moved counties twice in my lifetime without ever moving, as they used the US model where they separated off areas to make more Tory seats and even twinned together areas 30 miles apart just to create one more Tory seat. They moved us back again when that no longer worked for them.

    • @xmikerx666
      @xmikerx666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's not mentioned by a lot of the left who hate her is that the Blair administration did absolutely nothing to reverse the closures. In fact, they oversaw even further declines in former mining areas and played on the "Tories shut the pits" card.

    • @theshermantanker7043
      @theshermantanker7043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or, she's human and made really shitty and good choices at the same time, but no one seems to get that

  • @Machtyn
    @Machtyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    "Just like a latter George the Third..."
    That's kind of what I was thinking... a riot over an unfair tax? Who'd have thunk it?

    • @Thurnmourer
      @Thurnmourer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh, you mean the smugglers that were upset their shitty Dutch swill was about to be outcompeted by the British government all through a simple tax? No taxation without representation has always been a farce since day one.

    • @LukeSky2207
      @LukeSky2207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Unfair tax" lol

  • @mariemcintosh9268
    @mariemcintosh9268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought oooo you’re brave but you did really good on this. And I didn’t pay my poll tax either lol

  • @ehrldawg
    @ehrldawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very informative 1!!

  • @dreddguy6454
    @dreddguy6454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    "Dangerously incompetent tories" - Boris Johnson 'hold my beer, I'll show them how dangerously incompetent a tory can be'

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      There's no incompetency, they're just fucking evil.

    • @RandomGuy010
      @RandomGuy010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SteRDLK Every party is corrupt.

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@RandomGuy010 The Tories have given billions upon billions of pounds to their friends while to name two of many things: self-employed people have received no support in eight months, and key workers have had no pay rise in a decade.

    • @sygycollins2985
      @sygycollins2985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hhehehe

    • @RandomGuy010
      @RandomGuy010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@SteRDLK Yeah, they're corrupt. Should've just stuck with the Brexit party. Nigel is based.

  • @cosmicman6201
    @cosmicman6201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    "Sink it"
    Margaret thatcher

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Rule Britannia intensifies

    • @drewayling326
      @drewayling326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Too bad she said the same in regards to the uk at the same time

    • @matthew83890
      @matthew83890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Was she talking about the British economy under her tenure?

    • @thefunkosaurus
      @thefunkosaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brezhnev took Afghanistan,
      And Begin took Beirut.
      Galtieri took the Union Jack.
      And Maggie, over lunch one day, took a cruiser with all hands, apparently, to make him give it back.
      -
      Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

    • @appleslover
      @appleslover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She did, she sank Britain

  • @JoeySchmidt74
    @JoeySchmidt74 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, surprised myself by not throwing up!

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative.

  • @pyromania1018
    @pyromania1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!"
    ~Mike Myers

    • @soccrstar4
      @soccrstar4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This comment made my day.

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@soccrstar4 Glad you liked it. It's from the first Austin Powers movie.

    • @soccrstar4
      @soccrstar4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pyromania1018 I know- it makes me want to go back and watch all of the movies. It’s been too long since I’ve seen those classics!

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soccrstar4 I liked the first one, but the sequels? Eh, too much gross-out.

    • @soccrstar4
      @soccrstar4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pyromania1018 First was gold. I still liked the second one, too. But the third is one too many for that series.

  • @gerardcollins80
    @gerardcollins80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    Finally, a British man talking about the Troubles who actually calls it what it was, a civil war, and actually knows what he's talking about.

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Up the Ra

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's not British though.

    • @gerardcollins80
      @gerardcollins80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Then why the accent?

    • @gerardcollins80
      @gerardcollins80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@SteRDLK For God and Ulster. No surrender!

    • @LSSYLondon
      @LSSYLondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Clay3613 He's English.

  • @Blackadderthefourth
    @Blackadderthefourth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great film with the closing of the mines as a heavy focal point is 'Brassed off' really captures the beakness of the time

  • @crustyjuggler382
    @crustyjuggler382 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m English, she was the greatest if you were part of the wealthiest 1% and the worst if you were working class!
    She thrust entire towns into poverty up and down the country while the rich made more money than ever

    • @i_know_youre_right_but
      @i_know_youre_right_but 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So move into another town
      Simple as

    • @cherrypopscile3385
      @cherrypopscile3385 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@i_know_youre_right_but"oh you can bearly afford to exist? Just use the meger money you have to move to a city with more expensive rent!" is exactly the take I expect from a brainrot neo liberal subhuman.

    • @ProsecutorZekrom
      @ProsecutorZekrom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@i_know_youre_right_but What magical towns are there that give a good paying job and affordable housing to anyone that moves there? You clearly have no understanding of how class divide and the wealth gap works if you think getting out of poverty is as simple as "moving to another town" (probably can't afford to move either/need to stay to look after relatives or other responsibilities)

    • @dob3k714
      @dob3k714 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ProsecutorZekrom And if she kept on wasting money like the previous socialist PM's had she would made Britain fall as it was already in decline. She had the balls to cut the cancerous parts off to save the lot.

  • @rockstar450
    @rockstar450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Mate, your script for this video was written like a boss! Great job!

  • @danwillis2818
    @danwillis2818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    Tony Blair would be a good follow up biographic. There’s a lot to talk about there!

    • @tanmaypagar8022
      @tanmaypagar8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Closet Tory

    • @danwillis2818
      @danwillis2818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@tanmaypagar8022 is that supposed to be an insult lol

    • @tanmaypagar8022
      @tanmaypagar8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@danwillis2818 that’s a compliment

    • @appleslover
      @appleslover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@danwillis2818 neither, it's a fact

    • @brynstarkiller7419
      @brynstarkiller7419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes old Charlie Lyndon and his cottaging charges lol

  • @tara345
    @tara345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Whenever people in Ireland have a bad day, we say “Thatcher’s still dead” to make ourselves feel better.

    • @eazyollie9370
      @eazyollie9370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well I'm sure she'd still be delighted with your whole country speaking the language of the country she loved 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @tara345
      @tara345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@eazyollie9370 ní thuigim Béarla a bhod lofa.

    • @brownrice9147
      @brownrice9147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eazyollie9370 póg mo thóin

    • @bt3743
      @bt3743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@eazyollie9370 I wonder if that has anything to do with violent imperialism and the exploitation of the Irish

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alexios I Komnenos Have you lived in Ireland to speak with such confidence?

  • @sayankundu2286
    @sayankundu2286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I suggest you one thing? During video editing please lower the eq of vhf sounds. Because the squeaky sound of S, C is very disturbing when using headphones.

  • @JoffesThoughts
    @JoffesThoughts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    "both 1974 elections"
    And we think things are chaotic right now.

    • @abbaszaidi8371
      @abbaszaidi8371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Series 3 of The Crown.

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we all live in a yellow submarine

  • @mermaidmoon2254
    @mermaidmoon2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Never knew I needed Simon to say *"a goddamn bazuka!"* LOL

  • @Yvonne-ox8sv
    @Yvonne-ox8sv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to be able to write speeches like you . You have a mastery with words .

  • @MrYorickJenkins
    @MrYorickJenkins ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a masterful summary a sort of gold standard for a university essay

  • @ckilgore3983
    @ckilgore3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Really love to see something on Aldous Huxley & Marcus Garvey.

  • @TheMrFaceslasher
    @TheMrFaceslasher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    THANKS! As an American, I never knew why she was so hated. This explained everything so clearly

    • @samuelthornton9179
      @samuelthornton9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      it skips out on other stuff like section 28 and how the right to buy scheme has left it uk with alot of houses for private rent and not much cheap rent or houses for the newer generation to buy

    • @raypitts4880
      @raypitts4880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      seems orange face had a good go.

    • @mystified1429
      @mystified1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@samuelthornton9179 She bought working class votes with the right to buy. There always was a right to buy BUT at market value . She discounted up to 50 %. All the rural houses went first and now you have estates where one house pays the council and next door is privately rented for a few hundred £ more.

    • @LeoDomitrix
      @LeoDomitrix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an American, I did. And I still do.

    • @karylhogan5758
      @karylhogan5758 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She was hated here in Ireland.. we partyed when she died

  • @satansalley6526
    @satansalley6526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting,I learned something new.Thankyou.

  • @DeliriumzzZ
    @DeliriumzzZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Alright, I couldn't help myself from laughing when in this serious and gloomy conclusion, Simon drops the line "Ding Dong, the witch is dead".

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh is Simon still mad that Margaret Thatcher ruined his socialist dream?

    • @kms50549
      @kms50549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@attiepollard7847 no but literally that is the name of the song from the wizard of oz that was number 2 in the charts after she died. It was an old song, it’s was number 2 specifically because she died. Would be weird not to bring that up in a video about her.

  • @FinianFhomhair
    @FinianFhomhair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    "I would put a stake through her heart to make sure she's never coming back!"
    - a nice old scottish Lady when asked about her thoughts concerning thatcher's funeral.

    • @bigbaddog
      @bigbaddog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was the vampire from hell
      Thank god there was only ever one of her

    • @Kirovets7011
      @Kirovets7011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂😂👍👍That nice old Scottish lady was right!!

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Re-energizing British industry was an awful thing for her to do.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bigbaddog Yes, she showed the failure of socialism, something that many upper class twits hates her for.

    • @Lazbotable
      @Lazbotable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That woman also wanted to put garlic around her neck

  • @caeserromero3013
    @caeserromero3013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I studied Politics in college and our lecturer was an ex civil servant (and Lib Dem voter). One story he told about the Thatcher era stuck with me. Apparently prior to the Thatcher era, govt laboratories bred their own rats for testing. A govt audit worked out that it cost approx £30 to breed each rat, when they could be purchased commercially for £2 each. It was this kind of waste of tax payers money that Thatcher sought to eradicate, and why many civil service depts loathed the woman for her interference.

    • @bushmanPMRR
      @bushmanPMRR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's so much easier to spend other peoples money and as we are all tax payers we should demand much better value for our money.

    • @lirrobinson8377
      @lirrobinson8377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bushmanPMRR oh, you must not know how much government contractors charge the government.
      And those cheap rats are probably getting picked out of the gutter.

    • @mickwest2650
      @mickwest2650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry, you miss understood him. The rats they bred were Tory Politcians. You had to lived it to understand it. The view you had depends on where you lived. Children brought in the mining towns have a different view to those from 7 Oaks.

    • @paulsmith5218
      @paulsmith5218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t get it. Why did the civil service departments hate her? Because she had to tell them how to do their jobs?

    • @mr.jamster8414
      @mr.jamster8414 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm...

  • @amye6281
    @amye6281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    As someone who grew up in one of the poor former mining towns, and studied in a Northern city which had its industry shut down, I can confidently say a vast amount of people despise this woman, and the damage sge dealt to normal people is very very real

    • @NathanFrenchAttorney
      @NathanFrenchAttorney ปีที่แล้ว +1

      like obama then very bad

    • @user-om2bw1cj1r
      @user-om2bw1cj1r ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was born in Northern England too but those heavy industries were on the decline anyway and she had the sense to invest in finance/High Tech industries. Britain would never keep up with developing countries (like China and India) and the factories would have closed down anyway with even worse consequences.

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@user-om2bw1cj1r many were on the decline but that doesn't mean all and closing down all of out industrial capacity whilst much still turned a profit just to rely on French, German and Spanish imports is never going to be seen as a benevolent decision

    • @L_back
      @L_back หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@indiekiddrugpatrol3117sure?

  • @OfficialAshArcher
    @OfficialAshArcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    She may have done a lot of great things, but her treatment of the working class/poor was simply monstrous

  • @aaronseet2738
    @aaronseet2738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    "declared war"?
    There was no declaration of war for the Falklands conflict.

    • @purple-headedyogurtslinger2683
      @purple-headedyogurtslinger2683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Wasn’t a declaration of war for Vietnam but you drop enough bombs and it’s a war to somebody

    • @Roman-kz9oq
      @Roman-kz9oq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@purple-headedyogurtslinger2683 😂😂😂

    • @brianperry
      @brianperry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      When your country is attacked and overrun ...declaration of war is a bit academic...

    • @garyhendrick4391
      @garyhendrick4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Through out that time the news never referred to it as a "war". The BBC always referred to it as "The Conflict"
      They did however report that an attack was about to happen at Goose Green just a few hours before they were due to attack

    • @slipperywinston4076
      @slipperywinston4076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nor did they ever formally surrender, hence why US patriots will tell you they've never lost a war. ​Technically they haven't, in reality, they obviously have.

  • @joeh9399
    @joeh9399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It must be very difficult to make a video like this and be unbiased. You did a good job.

  • @marky755
    @marky755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t think you can say “saved the country” if half the country was pushed into poverty? Who gives a sod about the state if the citizens are dying.

    • @boiledelephant
      @boiledelephant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're comparing known and unknown quantities. We know who was worse off, and by how much, for her impact; we don't know who would've been worse off, or by how much, for the lack of it. Her motives were not humanitarian but she did squash the coal industry and that will have literally saved an unknown, now incalculable number of lives.
      That's not to downplay the suffering of those negatively affected by her decisions - just to point out that it's complicated, her legacy was both good and bad, as the video made very clear I thought.

    • @marky755
      @marky755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boiledelephant Yes, we know she killed many and ruined the lives of many more. That’s all the information we have. Let’s judge her on that. Not your hypotheticals.

    • @boiledelephant
      @boiledelephant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marky755 nah mate they call that the cockpit door problem. Someone who averts disaster (e.g. by mandating cockpit door locks on all planes in August 2001) gets no credit, because the prevented disaster is invisible.

  • @T0pMan15
    @T0pMan15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought it was Aneurin Bevan who created the NHS

  • @franciswaters7043
    @franciswaters7043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    just heard Simon say "thatcher declared war on Argentina" this isn't true. War was not officially declared.

  • @poorveshpowale3873
    @poorveshpowale3873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Last time I was this early UK was still in the EU

    • @jenniferahough4983
      @jenniferahough4983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still are for 15 days 😂

    • @secret5070
      @secret5070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@jenniferahough4983 no we officially left on 31 January 2020, we are in the Transition period at the moment meant to keep rules etc in place for smooth transition the transition period ends December 31.

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jenniferahough4983 Quick! Can still get in a lil duty free and abusing spanish waiters before they'll need to pay extra to enter europe!

    • @jenniferahough4983
      @jenniferahough4983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philhahn 😂🤣

  • @MackenzieCorkern17
    @MackenzieCorkern17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!!

  • @SnowghostFilms
    @SnowghostFilms ปีที่แล้ว

    The UK music chart is just great. You can have the Bob the Builder theme go No 1 or even a 6 minute long single with an opera in the middle go No 3 all time

  • @mikthom8463
    @mikthom8463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    UK and Norway had the same amount of oil on the north sea, UK privatised our oil whilst Norway socialised theirs, Norway is rich UK is broke

    • @leonardopsantos
      @leonardopsantos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I think this pretty much sums up what was her government. UK's GINI index in 1978 was 25, in 1990 it was 34.9. Norway's are 25 and 27 respectively. Norway's per-capita GDP in 1979 was 13.000 US Dollars and in 1990 was 28.200 US$, a 216 % increase. UK's was 7804 US$ in 1979 and 16239 US$ in 1990, a 208.08 % increase. The conclusion is that Thatcher's reforms didn't make the UK richer than it'd probably be, they made it more unequal.

    • @RandomGuy010
      @RandomGuy010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Cam Darlington Our government is now trying to throw all that money away on fantasy climate change measures though. I weep for my nation.

    • @Nickbaldeagle02
      @Nickbaldeagle02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Norway's population is one tenth of the UK.

    • @leonardopsantos
      @leonardopsantos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Nickbaldeagle02 yes, that's why we use relative terms like GDP per capita, so we can compare countries with different population sizes.

    • @Nickbaldeagle02
      @Nickbaldeagle02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leonardopsantos GDP per capita is higher, yes.

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Shat myself when I saw this, thought she'd come back to life

    • @dylangallagher143
      @dylangallagher143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That would be the greatest zombie hunt ever.

    • @mandalorian_guy
      @mandalorian_guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Its like the Star Wars line "Somehow, Palpatine has returned".

    • @veneneify
      @veneneify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish

    • @Audiablo
      @Audiablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "THATCHER'S BACK, BABY!"

    • @Akeno0002
      @Akeno0002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      stinky pants

  • @DarylBaines
    @DarylBaines ปีที่แล้ว

    Simon, I think this video belongs on your "Into The Shadows" channel.

  • @G.S.88
    @G.S.88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I remember when the streets of London and Ireland went one end of the spectrum of her death. There was either pure mourning, or pure ecstacy. She was good for the Brits, but a death sentence for the Irish. My Irish friends will not speak of her and new comers to the group have been warned to never speak her name around them. While on my British side of friends, they either don't care, or think she was the greatest female Prime Minister! For me, as an Australian who was born after her reign, I don't have opinions. But I know of her cruelty to the Irish and I can understand the hate. But I also know of her help to the British, so I can understand their love.

    • @gubgub3275
      @gubgub3275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      How dare you say "she was good for the Brits". We hated her just as much as the Irish.

    • @jambon6451
      @jambon6451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gubgub3275 Yup. 3 massive majorities means she must have been really "hated".

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jambon6451 it’s the old trick. Get the ignorant, and the emotionally needy on your side, and since they are in the majority, you need never fear democracy again. Trump did the same thing in his turn.

    • @gubgub3275
      @gubgub3275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tarquin I don't. Look at the reaction to her funeral.

    • @MyMMC
      @MyMMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      good for the brits.. lol.

  • @pur3metalrocker49
    @pur3metalrocker49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    She also made a great looking puppet on the classic spitting image show 😂

    • @devinecatlady
      @devinecatlady 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was still a kid at the time but I remember her puppet so clearly. I didn't understand the humour of spitting image back then but have loved rewatching them. 😂

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also made a great looking stroke victim and corpse.

    • @pur3metalrocker49
      @pur3metalrocker49 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteRDLK
      🤣

  • @WorldzMo5t3pic
    @WorldzMo5t3pic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    It's amazing that someone who _came_ from poverty was so willing to lead _swaths_ of others right into it.

    • @mickwest2650
      @mickwest2650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thatcher never came from poverty

    • @Markdfadf
      @Markdfadf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Britain was a second world mess in the 70s. Every income demographic was better off when she left office and her legacy is Britain outperforming its neighbor. For instance, France had a higher per capita GDP in 1979 when she took office. France then elected Mitterand, a socialist. Britain elected Thatcher. And those two countries are still living with the results of those decisions. (France's relative underperformance and the UK's outperformance.)

    • @mickwest2650
      @mickwest2650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Markdfadf You must not have lived through it in the North (North of Watford} She destroyed what was. Did you notice the display at her parade. She was hated. Were you aware that 1500 people chose death every month because of her. 90% women!

    • @Markdfadf
      @Markdfadf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mickwest2650 She was very unpopular with people who wanted handouts and special privileges from government, which made her very popular with me.

    • @Perrirodan1
      @Perrirodan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mickwest2650 Do you understand what it means when your country is about to collapse? Argentina used to be a rich developed country regarded as a sort of US, then they had a crisis because their main export good (food) lost a lot of it's value. Instead of biting the bullet and restructuring their economy (like Thatcher did in the UK) they went for socialists solutions, they tried to maintain sinking industries. The result? Hyper inflation and a poor country. To date Argentina is the only rich country to turn from developed to undeveloped.
      Now maybe in the later year when the economy had bounced back she could have tried to rebuild some specialized industry the like of Germany (the kind which rich countries can make a profit of) but it's clear that many people where bound to lose their job.
      Yes she could have softened the blow but the initial drastic dramatic action was necessary. If Brits wanted to avoid all of that they should have found competent PM to slowly restructure the economy before it broke like it did.

  • @ArmThePoor161
    @ArmThePoor161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "we only need to be lucky once.
    You need to be lucky every time."

  • @rogerroger9960
    @rogerroger9960 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm shocked by how many content creators kept Nord VPN after their MASSIVE data breach that happened a few years ago.

  • @Rager_U
    @Rager_U 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The best thing about Thatcher is that she was responsible for the greatest period of music in the history of Great Britain.

    • @andrewcarson5850
      @andrewcarson5850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Now that's controversial! I think we'd all agree that the decade after was the worst for British music.

    • @gabbyn978
      @gabbyn978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You mean, Sex Pistols and the like? This struck me as odd in those times - while the conservatives were dominating, the English sub-culture thrived; and the same happened in West Germany, ruled by Helmut Kohl, who would have loved to be another Ronald Reagan. Only that the banks had their own idea about who's gonna do what.

    • @NobletheSavage
      @NobletheSavage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrewcarson5850 I agree . The nineties sucked a biggun' and that very much includes f'ing Oasis .

    • @lloydhinshelwood
      @lloydhinshelwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 60s?!??!

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah, punk originated in the US. The Sex Pistols were just a boy band. The Clash came out of the racial divisions in London and the rise of the National Front. Thatcher was great for comedy though, her Spitting Image character was solid gold

  • @ryanpayne1148
    @ryanpayne1148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I tried to explain to my US friends what a conversation about Margaret Thatcher in the UK was like. Now I'm just going to send them this comment section instead.

    • @capttrips1523
      @capttrips1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Meh, bout the same as public opinion of Reagan. Savior of the economy to some and austeric villian to others

    • @ryanpayne1148
      @ryanpayne1148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@capttrips1523 As someone who grew up in the north east of England and now lives in Scotland, it doesn't matter what she "Did for the country" as a whole, she built it all on the destroyed lives and literal bodies of millions of people. Any leader who needs to do that to "succeed" has utterly failed.

    • @adamjmurray6
      @adamjmurray6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@ryanpayne1148 Exactly. Brutes have achieved much through harming others but, to remember them as anything other than villians is to disrespect the memories of those that suffered under them.

    • @jenniferahough4983
      @jenniferahough4983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ryanpayne1148 Find a Scottish person who liked her and you win a prize 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @aaropajari7058
      @aaropajari7058 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jenniferahough4983 Wee Jock Poo Pong McPlop...reportedly.

  • @eliast2351
    @eliast2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:47
    I always had the impression the NHS was a produce of bipartisan support, proposal and policy.

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Where there is discord, may we bring harmony.”
    Hahahaha

    • @mystified1429
      @mystified1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She upset the Queen by using "we " instead of " I " . That's the Royal "we "

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Simon, what about a bio of the late John Hume, who was instrumental in getting the peace process in NI started.

  • @ekinbamac2535
    @ekinbamac2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simon, you always find a way to include Argentina into your videos lol!

  • @VersusARCH
    @VersusARCH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Welshman told me his take on Thatcher but I can't write that.

  • @puretestosterone2373
    @puretestosterone2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:46 getting peti bougeois into a sentence that was epic

  • @williamsnike452
    @williamsnike452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "Do you have a license for that opinion?"

  • @high.thoughts.passing.thro1597
    @high.thoughts.passing.thro1597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    please do a biographics on saparmurat niyazov. the dude literally renamed bread after his mother, banned news reporters/presenters from wearing makeup, encouraged citizens to chew bones to make their teeth stronger & reduce the chances of them falling out, wrote an autobiography that you needed knowledge of in order for you to pass your driving test

  • @cellokid5104
    @cellokid5104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how impartial this is

  • @obi0914
    @obi0914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Simon, I have heard both good things and bad things of her and I really wanted to know more and you gave me a clean non bias look at her. Sounds like she really did pull UK out of the void

  • @madmammoth9022
    @madmammoth9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I saw the notification and the title cut off at "greatest Prime Minister" and i was gonna comment a fucking storm

    • @DavidM_10
      @DavidM_10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @Stegibbon
      @Stegibbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm still pissed off with it lol

    • @Stegibbon
      @Stegibbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually he just said taking milk from kids was justifiable. Unsubbed.

    • @slck181
      @slck181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Stegibbon you do know that the UK has crippling debt? Cuts needed to be made

    • @Stegibbon
      @Stegibbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amo S monster

  • @fuglyucker6238
    @fuglyucker6238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks to Simon Whister, Bio graphics and Gio graphics I have learned so much about history, places and people.
    Simon and his team make history interesting, long may it continue...

  • @dalang666
    @dalang666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I once trekked to her grave... not to pay my respects, but to make sure she was still buried and couldn't come back. An enemy of the working class.

    • @theo1216
      @theo1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rust in peace iron lady

    • @britishproudvanman3082
      @britishproudvanman3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Margaret Thatcher was cremated and not buried which makes your pathetic joke rather hollow.
      She was an enemy of the work shirkers not the working class and was one of the greatest Prime Ministers this country has ever produced! 😡

  • @daispy101
    @daispy101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re. Thatcher quoting Francis of Assisi: one reporter records in his autobiography that she had the quote written on the palm of her hand.

    • @daispy101
      @daispy101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And when she met with Gorbachev, Gorbachev was being briefed by a KGB double agent, Oleg Gordievsky, who was working for MI6. She had direct insight into what the KGB thought of Gorbachev and had what insights British intelligence wanted him to have.