Chris Langan Proves that the Logic of Faith and Interpretation Lead to CTMU Metareligion

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  • @lardplanet
    @lardplanet ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great work, thank you!

  • @JethroTClampet
    @JethroTClampet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reality is literally you in void of nothing. Your conscienceless is separate and finite. Chris Langan articulates this truth brilliantly. His intelligence is truly next level.

  • @gregmwilford
    @gregmwilford ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stellar Work Sir, the production is seamless, professional and cuts right to the Core of Langan’s message. Well done! Best regards,
    Should be used in Philosophy 1000 and Religion 1000 courses in University. Would mightily introduce the power of Langanite theory to Students (perhaps one day it will!)

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you took a Phil 101 course you would know why this nonsense seems so secret. Langan has an incredibly awful grasp of philosophy and technical terminology.

    • @CHIEF_Games
      @CHIEF_Games ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      seeking to understand. Can you give examples of why your opinion is this way? Seems like pretty brilliant concepts in my perspective so I'm surprised and really curious to see what makes you think so.

  • @Person4649Person
    @Person4649Person ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great and enlightening video!
    It's amazing that something so simple, yet so profound is constantly missed. OF COURSE you must understand up to some degree what you have faith in! But people often repeat "I don't understand the ways of God, but I have faith."
    Clearly, they do think they understand something, but they just don't know how to put that into words. I think most of the time, people who say this are feeling something like "I know there is absolute truth." "I know there is a being greater than I looking after me somehow." "There must be some reason to the universe, it can't be random." "I know that good and bad are real and objective." "I feel that somehow I will live on consciously after my body dies." "I know the natural or physical world is not all that there is."
    I think topological containment being dually equivalent to logical cause-and-effect is another important clue to the relationship between understanding and belief, or knowledge and existence.
    "Conspansion is not just a physical operation, but a logical one as well. Because physical objects unambiguously maintain their identities and physical properties as spacetime evolves, spacetime must directly obey the rules of 2VL (2-valued logic distinguishing what is true from what is false). Spacetime evolution can thus be straightforwardly depicted by Venn diagrams in which the truth attribute, a high-order metapredicate of any physical predicate, corresponds to topological inclusion in a spatial domain corresponding to specific physical attributes. I.e., to be true, an effect must be not only logically but topologically contained by the cause; to inherit properties determined by an antecedent event, objects involved in consequent events must appear within its logical and spatiotemporal image. In short, logic equals spacetime topology." - Chris Langan, Physics and Metaphysics

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the difference between confidence and faith?

    • @Person4649Person
      @Person4649Person ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FentonMulley-cz8pv I guess that would depend on how you use the word. They can be the same or different.

    • @havenbastion
      @havenbastion ปีที่แล้ว

      Logic is relationships that always replicate. Nothing to do with topology, although those relationships can be expressed geometrically.

    • @havenbastion
      @havenbastion ปีที่แล้ว

      Faith is belief without appeal to evidence, the polar opposite of knowledge.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@havenbastion >"Faith is belief without appeal to evidence"
      No, faith is trust, i.e., a degree of confidence. As the video explains, that's based on knowledge.

  • @horsymandias-ur
    @horsymandias-ur ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally. The much needed esoteric Langan that sees the religions of revelation as a utility in governing peoples.

  • @Certaintyexists888
    @Certaintyexists888 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does Chris account for his faith in the continued reliability of Logic?

  • @benwrong6855
    @benwrong6855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We don't know what we are either, which in theory means we can never know anything until we fully understand the nature of ourselves and consciousness

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely not. I guarantee you will think totally differently after a college course on logic/epistemology.

    • @havenbastion
      @havenbastion ปีที่แล้ว

      Self is the story you tell about how you fit into the world and society, from your unique biological perspective.

    • @JonahJayTaylor
      @JonahJayTaylor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can over the course of thousands of years see how the brain has developed and evolved to what it is today. Which seems to suggest that at one point of time humans only behaved in very simplified terms. Now we have the ability to think abstractly, reason, being introspective of ourselves. Your statement also seems to imply a difference of us to that of the animal kingdom. I think this idea that humans are the only "conscious" beings of earth is erroneous. Chimpanzees will perform altruistic behavior similar to that of humans; birds have been shown to exhibit cognitive assessment. These statements imply that animals may be more conscious than what we give credit for. CTMU interesting enough applies the fundamental framework of evolution in of itself by providing a feedback loop that humans have been using to develop cognition for hundreds of thousands of years and that this process would be infinite. Any animal could evolve to what humans are in terms of cognitive process, but this is highly unlikely because we are unique in many aspects, being bipedal with hands is one. With that you only have to answer the question of our nature. CTMU suggest that in end we are only an exhibition of Gods intellectual mind and with that we are one being and if we are a product of Gods mind then in essence, we really are one as the common denominator is God himself. This, in my opinion explains the supernatural phenomena of near-death experiences and DMT hallucinogens states which is becoming much more documented in the literature and both of these experiences have similar characteristics of oneness, entering dimensions, a deity. I find it intriguing that people who have never been religious will take a substance like DMT and be sitting at the last supper of jesus christ or be floating above their body with a 360 view of their surroundings but I'm just rambling at this point.

    • @Fyfyfindusus
      @Fyfyfindusus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We know what we know about ourselves. I mean I have the problem, that I don't understand the difference between Faith and knowledge here. For me the step to faith seems just irrelevant. I understand that we can acquire new insights through knowledge/ontology . But what is new about that?

  • @leolarcher
    @leolarcher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! Thanks for making this really understandable!

  • @FutureNihilist
    @FutureNihilist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Langan says that logic is absolute Truth, but if I successfully tell a lie, have I not done so by arguing logically?

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lies are usually logical. If you try to lie by being illogical, people can usually tell you're either confused or lying. What exposes a lie are facts-of-the-matter (e.g., whether or not you were in a certain time or place), not necessarily logical analysis.

    • @FutureNihilist
      @FutureNihilist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ctmuist in another interview, he said Truth must be logically coherent and topologically factual, or something like that. Must be what he meant. Thanks

    • @nickmakris2971
      @nickmakris2971 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even when I lie
      I tell the truth
      Tony Montana
      Scarface

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว

      Please look up these questions in the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy. That is the source professionals use.
      I suggest looking up "falsifiability"

  • @gsit80
    @gsit80 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    - Knowledge is a set of objects
    - Object is a thing with attributes

  • @STONECOLDET944
    @STONECOLDET944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if that's what ls lacking from religious texts, a scripture itself on how to interpret the texts to prevent open malicous interpretation

  • @danskiver5909
    @danskiver5909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it useful to try to understand God’s first principles and intentions when creating our universe. From our perspective the foundational properties we see in God’s creation are expressions of his first principles, (harmony, logistics and existence). These same first principles are the foundational principles we use to create our linguistic and social systems. Everything is spoken into existence whether It’s God or us creating.

  • @arizonaboy59
    @arizonaboy59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris said in another interview that the basis of understanding reality was binary either or thinking. My concern is applying that kind of thinking to religion or theology.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To understand this, you have to understand how statements and the concepts they refer to are structured, it's an advanced topic.

  • @ryanlerouche5122
    @ryanlerouche5122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That sounds nice but that’s Hård because some religions seem to be teaching like opposite moral and ethics in there Meta narrative. And little stories.

  • @mresab1997
    @mresab1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said.

  • @gabrielpadilla7839
    @gabrielpadilla7839 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robert anton wilson paraphrased:
    interacting processing; i can only tune in interacting processing;
    not only do i seem to be a verb, but the whole scenario universe seems to be a verb... i see no nouns, only verbs, non simultaneously apprehended

  • @bulgingbattery2050
    @bulgingbattery2050 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is reincarnation possible?

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is possible, yes. Although, it's not the best option available. When a person dies, their history and identity remains embedded in the timeless level of consciousness. What happens next depends on what makes that person's identity and history special, i.e., their beliefs and choices. In the CTMU, there's free will as well as something called self-simulation and distributed solipsism. While free will entails that at the semiotic and semantic levels, you participate in creating reality in a way unique to yourself, the latter two entail that you create your own world. What happens to a person's soul in the afterlife depends on what they believed and how they acted, while teleology acts as a constraint (i.e., you can't go to Heaven if you were evil, simply by believing evil people go to Heaven). How that person's identity is re-injected into spacetime (and "which" spacetime) is a process that brings those things together. In Langan's own words "this could be recombinative process, with the essences of many people combining in a set of local injections or “reincarnations” (this could lead to strange effects…e.g., a single person remembering simultaneous “past lifetimes”)."
      If you're someone who can commit to teleology, then there are better options available than reincarnation (e.g., resurrection), but they carry higher moral requirements.

    • @bulgingbattery2050
      @bulgingbattery2050 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ctmuist Have you ever heard about the Noosphere, also known as the Earth information field?

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bulgingbattery2050 I wasn't familiar with the term, but I've heard of something similar described in NDE accounts.

  • @MS-od7je
    @MS-od7je ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a great deal of misunderstanding of the Bible.
    Its meaning is fractal… meaning different things to different people or groups of people depending on time … time being fractal too. Thus a historian can say that “firmament “ meant something different than what I would interpret “firmament “.
    Etc…
    The brain is a Mandelbrot set complex morphology!
    The Mandelbrot set has a logos which is identical to the description of God.

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว

      The mind is the function of an evolved apes brain. There isn't anything supernatural or "metaphysical" (a word christians never take any time to look up in the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy) there.

  • @RustSymo
    @RustSymo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pure logic.

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is using almost every concept and terminology from epistemology as if he's never done any research.

  • @abyddeon6249
    @abyddeon6249 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most religions are ethnoreligions (including all abrahamic) and are simply the collective control over particular core ethnicities, themed by historically cumulative astrotheological elements, which gain complexity with each assimilation through empirical conquest while each denomination is a division of thought groups within that ethnicity... of course, there are exceptions, but it is statistically relevant per demographics as well as origins of ethnicity... while it is a common story about a great flood, we have geological evidence to prove this and it was so important to keep track of the movements of celestial bodies over the course of 10s of thousands of years to prepare for encountering an extinction level event right around this time between the age of pisces and aquarius; we are expected to make progressively more frequent contact with the taurid debris zone, which was responsible for the sudden melt of the ice age causing the great flood... the truth is, every breed of human is purposed livestock with inherent dispositions/ typical traits for the future planning of human civilization as well as its contingencies for survival... all scriptures of various belief systems are intentionally filled with vague ambiguity to protect the hidden knowledge few tasked with the responsibility of human preservation are privy to while giving them the edge to influence their assigned human herd collective ... but it can also be undone just as easily with the realization that one religions savior is anothers false prophet, and all denominations are directly opposed from which they separated, positioned like dominos... whats your move, chess boi...

    • @HomeOverTheRoad
      @HomeOverTheRoad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me you dont understand my religion without telling me...

  • @mikewaddell8814
    @mikewaddell8814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's only one truth his name is Jesus Christ 🙏 glory to God Almighty Yahweh Yeshua and the holy Spirit 🙏

  • @Jaded-Wanderer
    @Jaded-Wanderer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @haikeaintiaani9183
    @haikeaintiaani9183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id have near lethal encounter to glass door and lost blood and tendons i had exstreme vision angels that showed my father turning to child at my lap and voice told me your father is your child you must love and care feeled his scars on his head then light being putted us on chessboard like place and i escorted my father out of this place i was12 years old now im 39 im now caretaker of my father yes i belive in god and angels this kind a vision is like springboard easy to take leap of faith little bit like walking other leg and arm and eye out of this world ireally dont know whats the meaning of this vision ive interpreted it many ways but surely you start trust gods plan and will prhasing him more without asking looking for sign and even start trusting on them too

  • @samo4003
    @samo4003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris is too optimistic regarding his CTMU being able to resolve religious differences. I would like to see him fitting and interpreting the four major religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism) with the CTMU and see whether those religions will agree with his interpretations. 😁

    • @sam-hx2pq
      @sam-hx2pq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You needn't worry about whether the ctmu is a correct "interpretation" of any other language system. That is the power of logic and why it can filter religion.

    • @samo4003
      @samo4003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sam-hx2pq No, it doesn't. It explains at best only one half of Buddhism view of reality.

  • @ryanlerouche5122
    @ryanlerouche5122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to see it practice. To see if any bugs show up. Theory vs real world evidence. Maybe I am not interpreting Chris well but I believe GOD can heal All types of brokeness I believe he can use Evil for his purposes. It seems to me people are being groomed into Ideologies from birth that might conflict. If a child is groomed to be a murder from birth. Who’s fault is it. Or is he just plainly Forgiven by GOD.

  • @JD-ev1uj
    @JD-ev1uj หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course, interpreting correctly, depends on human frailty. And we know how undependable it is. That's why we need Information outside of ourselves from the source of truth. First, truth is not encompassed in all religions. Can't be. They can share a few aspects but not their differences. I would never place the Quran or any other belief on a par with the Biblical text. Call it instinct.

  • @mikewaddell8814
    @mikewaddell8814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    King James Bible is the word of God.

    • @Knight-of-the-Immaculata
      @Knight-of-the-Immaculata หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not quite. You are using a Bible corrupted by Protestantism in 1825.

  • @akinogun7213
    @akinogun7213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤔 Moses Ten commandments where easy to understand and interperate- God is physics to my mind. But subsequent prophet interpretations leading to diverse religions relying on Faith seems to be the problem in modern times . Modern religion is used as a vehicle for( tax benefits and other nefarious activities including crude brainwashing) . The only way to test a religions integraty is by the followers actions { practice what they preach} . Moses, Jesu Christos and Mohamed seem to be the most consistent prophet's of Faith. For bio- mechanical energy ( sapien sapiens) to exist in a hostile universe and coalesce from Pure energy {EM} forces seems like a miracle to me.🤗

  • @kricketflyd111
    @kricketflyd111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recommend archeology.

  • @valderramalamay2965
    @valderramalamay2965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥

  • @mikewaddell8814
    @mikewaddell8814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The smartest man is less than a termite compared to the creator.

  • @stanleyrobson4622
    @stanleyrobson4622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Word of God reveals and trains even simple men and women in the logic needed to know the truth. Our accumulated learned and experienced knowledge (both directly personal and shared among each other) in turn serves to broaden by further application our experienced understanding of truth and logic. Our failure to be in turn true to a truly enlightened state is the measure of our sinful or ignorant state, which is something that we all are inherently subject to by our personal failure to see through deception and lies that serve as opposing forces to truth. Only by knowing the ultimate TRUTH as HE was embodied physically (by studying the WORD of God) and then more directly through a real relationship in the SPIRIT with the person that is Jesus CHRIST can we hope to be enlightened. Then our personal life experience and knowledge could start to manifest something approaching complete logic that will adhere to and be sustained by the highest and awesome perfect universal law of God’s love as a real lived experience.
    AMEN.

  • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
    @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh boy. Please buy a dictionary and the SEP. This is embarrassing. This fella has obviously never interacted with a biblical scholar or the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy. Very irresponsible.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is it that the video misunderstands?

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ctmuist to start. The definition and appropriate use of philosophical terminology. He is taking colloquial uses of technical terminology and acting as if his equivocations are magical new information.
      For example. I know very little about cars, I do know that a catalytic converter is a part, but I have little clue what it is or does. I could try to act like I know what it is through parts of the words or some type of etymology, but to a car mechanic I would sound like a total idiot. But to a person who ALSO doesn't know why a catalytic converter is, I may sound very intelligent.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FentonMulley-cz8pv I meant what did the video actually state that is a misunderstanding? If you don't refer to anything specific then you're asking me to look and hope that I find whatever it is you're thinking of.

    • @FentonMulley-cz8pv
      @FentonMulley-cz8pv ปีที่แล้ว

      An easy one is how he avoids what philosophers call "degrees of confidence" to mean "faith". There's even a whole methodology within epistemology used to calculate these degrees of confidence called Bayesian reasoning.
      Faith is not a word philosophers use unless discussing belief without any evidence. Even then they use words like presupposition or brute fact.
      This level of misuse of basic philosophy terminology is like saying I know what a catalytic converter is because I have an idea of what a catalyst and a conversion is in common language.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FentonMulley-cz8pv >"An easy one is how he avoids what philosophers call "degrees of confidence" to mean "faith"."
      And why would that be wrong?
      >"Faith is not a word philosophers use unless discussing belief without any evidence."
      Why should we defer to the way you claim philosophers use it?

  • @havenbastion
    @havenbastion ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Langan is not a metaphysician and doesn't understand metaphysics.

    • @CHIEF_Games
      @CHIEF_Games ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is such an ignorant comment. First of all, understanding isn't excluded by absence of profession in metaphysics. Secondly, if you knew anything about his biography, you'd know his understanding precedes him on the topic. Have you read his paper "An Introduction to Mathematical Metaphysics" or his book "Introduction to Quantum Metamechanics"?

    • @Most_Trustworthy_Weasel
      @Most_Trustworthy_Weasel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A mirror doesn't show reflections either.

    • @kricketflyd111
      @kricketflyd111 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is a materialist, no offense but He is in the danger zone and does not realize it. Maybe try dropping the physics, he knows plenty there and go to archeology and the Esoteric studies. I say this from hearing his interviews, he is missing religious understandings that of the philosophers that are alchemists.

  • @depiction3435
    @depiction3435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so idiotic.

    • @ctmuist
      @ctmuist  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Elaborate why, if you can.

  • @mikewaddell8814
    @mikewaddell8814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    King James Bible is the word of God.

    • @mresab1997
      @mresab1997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Amen. You’re on your way my friend.

    • @mikewaddell8814
      @mikewaddell8814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @mresab1997 thanks for the encouragement brother 🙏 blessings to you ❤️