@@Ilovevidgames123 Probably not, but at least our biggest and smallest dads keep the podcast that same scrublord quality lol, and we can visit Simpsons dad and anime dad on weekends
I mean... with fortnite money all these compounding messes might still not push them into the red. I just hope that they didn’t overestimate how much venture capital theyr going to get in order to make the store more... anything
@@benzur3503 Epic is just arrogant. I mean, everyone knows their launcher and store were made exclusively for Fortnite. Then they said "Let's buy us some stuff to shit on Steam" without even trying to be trully competitive. Every single person taking a shot at them is saying the same thing, and they still act like children who wanna be noticed. Not to mention they had the nerve to tell Steam to change their revenue policy, when the only reason Epic's is better is because they have nothing to lose at the moment. They're gonna fuck up more until they become an actual competitor, which will probably happen when the BR trend goes down and Fortnite loses some of irs playerbase.
@@benzur3503 Fortnite money won't be forever. Once the Battle Royale phase passes and all the little shitkids and poo-babbies move on to the next thing, that well will dry up faster than you can blink. And once that happens, Epic will fold, because they threw all their resources into a virtual store built on a foundation of spaghetti and the promise of infinite time and money to eventually get it right.
@@ToozdaysChild I was initially going to respond to you by saying that while epic may take huge losses with their store if they don't actually improve it by the time BRs aren't popular anymore, they wouldn't told because of the steady stream of Unreal Engine money. Thing is, at this point, they've expanded so quickly as a company to keep the fortnite money rolling that they may be too top heavy to recover. Their arrogant practices of yoinking exclusive deals to force customers over to their platform (Especially titles with cult/hardcore audiences, who really, REALLY don't like this shit) kinda shows they don't know how to work in this market space of store fronts, either.
"Epic Store is fine y'all are just elitists." >Sells user info to China. >Is using predatory methods to get games on their platform. >Doesn't provide refunds. >Doesn't have a shopping cart feature and shuts your account down for fraud if you buy more than 4 games in a row. >Is incapable of managing their store effectively. >Undersells products without telling developers. :^)
A lemonade stand trying to sell the same coffee from the well-established coffee from across the street, in a flavor that conspicuously went missing from said coffee shop!
@@ghostfear2011 "It's not about money, guys. It's about breaking Valve's monopoly on the PC industy by introducing new competition in the industry." -Randy Pitchford *pulls game from EGS*
@@N00BSYBORG Every time someone uses the term "monopoly" when referring to Steam, I want to reach through the internet and slap the shit out of them. Steam is the least monopolistic "monopoly" in existence. A monopoly isn't just that you are dominating the market in whatever your niche is. A monopoly is using your power to prevent people from competing with you. Valve has pretty much never used any monopolistic practices. They even enable you to sell your own Steam keys so that you can avoiding giving Valve a cut of your sales. They've never retaliated against the likes of Bethesda, CD Projekt, EA, or Ubisoft, or Epic for selling games on their own platforms. So anytime someone uses that monopoly excuse to defend Epic, you can safely discard their opinion as worthless.
It's rough, man. GOG is really the Mom'n'Pop shop of the digital store fronts here. Since they focus heavily on being selling games without DRM, they naturally do not cater themselves to the most popular/lucrative model of games right now, that being multiplayer games, and often Games as a Service.
"This isn't even worth the paper its printed on!" "On the contrary, every Bison Dollar will be worth 5 british pounds, that is the exchange rate I'll set once I've kidnapped their Queen." I am a fucking nerd who loves Street Fighter the Movie UNIRONICALLY.
Remember the skit of Louie C.K. where he talked how he'd be keeping a shit store going for years just as a joke if he had a billion dollars? Epic Games remember
That's like a bit more than 100 people buying witcher 3 at full price. There are other cheaper CDPro games on GoG and a lot of sales are probably discounted, so maybe that's 200 sales or so
As a long time fan of GOG, I find this sad. Hopefully, more triple A publishers (and more Japanese ones) will start working with GOG more to make the store more desirable to gamers outside of the super-hardcore like myself.
Because being a streamer and content creator means pursuing trends whether you like it or not. Because people like you and me want Pat to suffer in our stead.
Pat isn't the best with financial choices. I think it was every 5 weeks a part of the original Best Friends podcast would be him going "Wait, what are these purchases on my account? Well, I guess I made them." And even on the Metal Gear Revengeance LP he opined about his bank account constantly getting broken into.
The funniest thing about this entire controversy is that despite not having anything to do with it, Randy Pitchford still managed to clown on himself while everything was going on.
So, I buy paper model kits for model railway layouts. You pay like $3, get a PDF file emailed to you, print and assemble it yourself That site has a shopping cart. I can't understand how the Epic Game Store doesn't have a shopping cart. It's such a basic thing.
GOG figured out how to do the sales thing without devaluing years ago. Just offer the games at full price with a cash back offer, i.e sell the game worth 60$ for 60$, but give 20$ back to make the customer effectively pay 40$. Epic is so financially illiterate it's obvious that they're just a former fledgling studio that struck gold and have no idea what to do with it. It's like when you get those lotto winners that try to build a business with their new money but fail horribly because they have zero knowledge or experience in management and only know how to throw money at the problem.
GOG's my favorite, but that might be due to my love for older games - their DRM politics and prices help too. Sadly I heard that Gwent and that Witcher adventure game turned out to be money sinks. Although you should note that they mainly sell old games for cheap, hence lower profits Pat.
Hades is in Hades by Epic Also, they could've done better with the Genesis simile. Could have made it that you got your games, there's the console, but you have to hold the cartridge a certain way. You have to wiggle the TV adaptor to make it show on the TV. You have to tape the power adapter to stay in place. It works, but holy shit does it need a lot of help and tuning
Holy shit this store is the digital gaming equivalent of Fyre at this point. This is a pileup in not just slow motion but slow motion in 4k 1000fps filmed by Gavin and #Dantheman.
So this is a demonstration of how NOT to compete with Steam. 1. Buy up exclusivity. This is going to piss people off and is just a bad PR move. 2. Set up an imitation shop that lacks most all of the coveted features of the system you are imitating. This will not only piss people off it will drive them away. 3. Have a sale before your site is ready to support it. This is just another way to drive customers away. When fraud protection is being triggered because your store front has no way to bundle purchases and items need to be physically removed from the store to stop the sale on them you are going to piss people off.
And here we are in june of 2020 and they STILL don't have a shopping cart or other very basic storefront features. And these people are supposed to be competing with steam?
Read all about it.... Dwarven Canadian man calls Epic Store the Titanic of pc storefronts. Threatens to use baby hands to litter until situation is resolved.
Rockstar/Take Two pulled similar price shenanigans to supergiant when GTA V got its first steam sale. Doubled the price for the 2015 summer sale, but in game currency was cheaper to buy with real currency
Hey Pat, if you buy your Ubisoft games on steam, you also have them on Uplay by default, assuming your accounts are linked. So if i want, i can just open Uplay and play FarCry 5, even tho i bought it on steam.
Oh woolie, if he went to reddit he would see how many people defend the epic store relentlessly. Acting as if the people with genuine complaints are just overreacting. And since rage 2 was mentioned, I'm waiting on rage 2s expansions to see what cool stuff they add because rage 2 has stuff going for it but its surprisingly short.
wherever a circlejerk exists contrarians will counterjerk, no matter how absurd the position they have to take. r/gamingcirclejerk has gone beyond parody to the point where it now regularly shits on popular games and supports anti-consumer practices.
@@LtSprinkulz I did actually. I say I spent around maybe 11 ish hours in the game, taking my time. Also I really haven't finished rage 2 but many of said that its range is around 10-12 hours which is short for an open world game, considering how the last game was around that length. I expected it to be a bit longer and expand more on the world. With all that said I'm not counting the side activities, which there is a bunch of. I have spent a good chunk of time clearing out bases and taking my time so my mileage will probably be longer than most.
That is sad that Epic can't even add a shopping cart for their store for another 6 months. And regarding the issues with using the other non-Steam client, well that's why I mostly buy from GOG, with a few exceptions. Also, I just want to say that GOG's last year profit being about $4,800 is disappointing. If more publishers were willing to give them a shot, they would be doing much better.
Steam used to do this around 2010 as well. I know cause I ran into the same issue before the big holiday sales were a thing. Saying that, it's now 10 years later lol
I missed a sale and I'm still mad the only game I wanted but nope turns out they auto set my location to Brazil and I didn't know so had to get customer service to switch it back which was fast but was done the day after the sale on the game I wanted
MAN, I want GoG to succeed. :( Outside of lacking an "easy" refund policy(From my understanding), they are probably one of the more pro consumer store fronts.
I haven't finished the video so maybe they say this as well, but these companies should really think twice and maybe make sure everything runs well before allowing themselves to become exclusives. The money might be better, but clearly the management isn't.
Kango234 this is not just an Epic or a video game industry thing. This is literally any current tech venture that’s been created. It’s basically the end result of the “disrupt movement”.
Epic is going to have massive lawsuits over this and their store is basically dead already. The exclusives with Shenmue and Borderlands, the issues with not informing developers on sales, currency issues, like what the fuck? Why the hell would you ever put your game on the Epic Games Store when you can have so many things go wrong? There’s no advantage to it at all.
Epic is either gonna get their shit together, or go under like games for windows. I really hope they listen to the people. Let's see how this plays out folks.
And then developers started pulling out of the Epic Store saying that they didn’t want to do the sale and weren’t told about the sale at all. Also I believe the Hades developer jacked their price up 10 dollars during the sale. The 2 big ones being Borderlands 3 and V:TM 2 being the ones that pulled out from the store completely.
CyberNinjaZero I’m simply noting that while Epic has fucked up the sale, the ire gets put on the devs as well for doing this shit. This is the first time I’ve EVER seen developers pull out of storefronts while others jacked up their prices because it went on sale with them going “We weren’t told about it.” It’s like a manufacturer breaking into a retail store and taking everything they made off the shelves because it went on sale.
@@ghostfear2011 It's almost like you have to ask a developer to put their content on sale, and if you do so without their permission, giving them less money, they can take their business elsewhere because thats shitty, or alter their prices to recoup the loss they didn't agree to having
i feel like nightschool studios is the only company they told. they tweeted out the preoreder sale and after party never went through any real bs and has been the same price since the start of the sale.
Joseph I wouldn't mind if CDPR did a scummy move or pro consumer move like early access to cyberpunk 77 on GOG or exclusive to GOG for a month which is not that bad but in a way kinda bad
Fun fact. This is one point to Epic Games. They will refund a game even if it goes against there return policy. If the game is known to not work for a majority of people. I didn't return my copy of red dead 2 until 3 weeks after getting the game. After 3 weeks of trying to get it to work. And they still refunded it.
I want to say it's the thing where low price implies low quality. If it's only 5 dollars it must be garbage, which I'm not going to give 5 dollars for in the first place, so I'll pirate it instead and save myself the trouble. Or something like that.
Factorio is the only game I know, that has a policy of 30 Bucks, no sale ever. and it sells well, it works, the price is stable, its value is known and consistent, and for the company income is stable, and people are willing to buy it whenever they come across it. Because there is no sale. there is no point in waiting to get it. smart customers on other indie games just go "eh i get it when its five bucks on GOG or something." and because they get steady income and no lows, development is ongoing to this day.
Unfortunately it is not about people being EGS fanboys but more about people being happy that gamers are pissed off... You know, throwing around phrases like gamer tears, entitled gamers, crybabies, etc, etc.
Virtually every single online shop has a shopping cart, whether you are buying games, items on amazon, or groceries online. How can EGS be this much of a complete fuck up? It has to be a standard line of code, just put it in, or does China, EGS's newest market, not shopping carts with online purchases?
Hahah I had to do a double take when YongYea was explaining this story and went "so according to one Patrick Boivin..."
Exactly lmao, I immediately hit the comments to see if there were other csb fans
@@brown157100 they'll always be the SBF to me...
@@ffeeley1 Yeah, I almost put that lol but it felt weird without at least matt there too, so I put Csb for my heart's sake
@@brown157100 This hurt is never going to go away, is it?
@@Ilovevidgames123 Probably not, but at least our biggest and smallest dads keep the podcast that same scrublord quality lol, and we can visit Simpsons dad and anime dad on weekends
"I'm the news! Me, Pat!"
Noooo stop being so adorable you obese leprechaun I'm trying to make fun of you
He spent more than $500 on a unreliable store that fucks up at every turn. Just point and laugh.
How did they even think this was an ok idea?
This is what happens when your strategy is Fortnite money.
I mean... with fortnite money all these compounding messes might still not push them into the red. I just hope that they didn’t overestimate how much venture capital theyr going to get in order to make the store more... anything
@@benzur3503 Epic is just arrogant. I mean, everyone knows their launcher and store were made exclusively for Fortnite. Then they said "Let's buy us some stuff to shit on Steam" without even trying to be trully competitive. Every single person taking a shot at them is saying the same thing, and they still act like children who wanna be noticed. Not to mention they had the nerve to tell Steam to change their revenue policy, when the only reason Epic's is better is because they have nothing to lose at the moment.
They're gonna fuck up more until they become an actual competitor, which will probably happen when the BR trend goes down and Fortnite loses some of irs playerbase.
General Penny is not sure about arrogant, but stupid definitely
@@benzur3503 Fortnite money won't be forever. Once the Battle Royale phase passes and all the little shitkids and poo-babbies move on to the next thing, that well will dry up faster than you can blink. And once that happens, Epic will fold, because they threw all their resources into a virtual store built on a foundation of spaghetti and the promise of infinite time and money to eventually get it right.
@@ToozdaysChild I was initially going to respond to you by saying that while epic may take huge losses with their store if they don't actually improve it by the time BRs aren't popular anymore, they wouldn't told because of the steady stream of Unreal Engine money.
Thing is, at this point, they've expanded so quickly as a company to keep the fortnite money rolling that they may be too top heavy to recover.
Their arrogant practices of yoinking exclusive deals to force customers over to their platform (Especially titles with cult/hardcore audiences, who really, REALLY don't like this shit) kinda shows they don't know how to work in this market space of store fronts, either.
I remember when Pat was first on the news...
Who else seen a leprechaun say Yeeeah!
All ya gotta do is look up dere in da tree
I WANNA KNOW WHERE THE GOLD AT!! gimme that GOLD!!
It could be a crackheeeead!
Ima run a backhoe and uproot that tree. I want the gold!!!
I'm glad this is a reference being made hahahaha
I love how every week gamers are proven right for calling the epic store garbage
"Epic Store is fine y'all are just elitists."
>Sells user info to China.
>Is using predatory methods to get games on their platform.
>Doesn't provide refunds.
>Doesn't have a shopping cart feature and shuts your account down for fraud if you buy more than 4 games in a row.
>Is incapable of managing their store effectively.
>Undersells products without telling developers.
:^)
@@ABonafideSkeleton "suprised Pikachu face"
@@ABonafideSkeleton lmao
It's still fairly new, they said.
Of course it won't be as good as Steam, they said.
It’s like a little kid with a lemonade stand but they are instead trying to sell high quality coffee.
Zach Ostrowski a lemonade stand trying to sell the same coffee as the well-established coffee shop across the street
A lemonade stand trying to sell the same coffee from the well-established coffee from across the street, in a flavor that conspicuously went missing from said coffee shop!
@@lucidlullaby894 And proceeds to screw up the process of making said coffee and serves a cup of dirt.
The Epic Store is such a shitshow. Maybe they should've used all those blank checks making a service that works instead of holding games hostage.
N00BSYBORG “I don’t want you to put my game on sale, but I’ll take your money to make it Epic Exclusive for a year.”-the developers as well.
@@ghostfear2011 "It's not about money, guys. It's about breaking Valve's monopoly on the PC industy by introducing new competition in the industry."
-Randy Pitchford
*pulls game from EGS*
EGS: Burning
Customers: Banned
Shopping cart: Missing
Publishers: Pulling Games
Epic Games: *Default Dance*
@@N00BSYBORG Every time someone uses the term "monopoly" when referring to Steam, I want to reach through the internet and slap the shit out of them. Steam is the least monopolistic "monopoly" in existence. A monopoly isn't just that you are dominating the market in whatever your niche is. A monopoly is using your power to prevent people from competing with you. Valve has pretty much never used any monopolistic practices. They even enable you to sell your own Steam keys so that you can avoiding giving Valve a cut of your sales. They've never retaliated against the likes of Bethesda, CD Projekt, EA, or Ubisoft, or Epic for selling games on their own platforms.
So anytime someone uses that monopoly excuse to defend Epic, you can safely discard their opinion as worthless.
@@matrix3509 Funny how Epic is trying to create a monopoly. Like it is disgusting with the stuff they are doing.
"What country was this game launcher made in?"
"Eh... it no longer exists"
The look in woolie's eyes at 11:26 as he notices the massive screwup is the funniest thing I've seen today
I would say Woolie reaction to the fanboy tweet ( starting from 17:55 ) is also good.
But yes, that one is the greatest in this clip.
"Woolie you're too old and mature to understand fanboy shitheels anymore"
Man, if this ain't a mood...
Bless GOG, they're the real MVPs
And bless Valve for actually pushing Steam as the best service experience it can be on PC
Even though, I almost exclusive shop on GOG for PC gaming, I wish more people considered using their platform.
@@Loco0089 It took them being as scummy and manipulative as possible to get to this point. I'm just glad they're not *as* evil as the used to be
Well this comment uhh... aged.
@@Tuskor130 well yours certainly aged too now
"Better than Origin" is such a low bar Pat has to duck to go under it
Pat, PAT of all people has to duck under that bar
I always knew Pat would end up in the news some day. I just always assumed it would be something more violent
"Local Canadian man arrested for alleged fist fight with a woman trying to pour mustard on a bagel."
my favorite thing from this is youtubers reacting to the article trying to pronounce "Boivin"
Which is odd, considering how easy it should be to pronounce Fuckface.
That part about GOG being the best and caring about consumers yet making the least of all the stores is heartbreaking.
Steam is successful not by being caring but being as manipulative as possible.
I feel the same. Outside a few companies, consumer friendliness and respect is too underappreciated.
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
It's rough, man. GOG is really the Mom'n'Pop shop of the digital store fronts here. Since they focus heavily on being selling games without DRM, they naturally do not cater themselves to the most popular/lucrative model of games right now, that being multiplayer games, and often Games as a Service.
@@davidk7439 ok that's kinda based
Aw cool, I missed the "How Hath God Blighted Pat" segment.
We had Woolie vs. God, now we have Pat vs. A Cold and Unfeeling Cosmos
"Implying people defend it?"
*congratulory clapping ensues*
For anyone revisiting this clip, it’s a year and a half later and Epic still doesn’t have a shopping cart.
COVID’s a bitch, but come the fuck on.
They have Fortnite money, fuck 'em.
Fallout 76 refunds do not convert to fun bucks
They will, however, convert to Bison Dollars
Todd Howard: "The player base will see that it just works...WHEN I KIDNAP THEIR QUEEN!"
OF COURSE!
"This isn't even worth the paper its printed on!"
"On the contrary, every Bison Dollar will be worth 5 british pounds, that is the exchange rate I'll set once I've kidnapped their Queen."
I am a fucking nerd who loves Street Fighter the Movie UNIRONICALLY.
refund unclear i got dimma-dollers
You might say that this whole issue is not very epic.
oR cash money
You COULD say that. But I, for one, think it can still be seen as pretty epic. An Epic FAILURE, at least.
Remember the skit of Louie C.K. where he talked how he'd be keeping a shit store going for years just as a joke if he had a billion dollars?
Epic Games remember
Epic's business strategy seems to only be "we have money!"
$4,800 in profit, that's it?
This hurts me.
That's like a bit more than 100 people buying witcher 3 at full price. There are other cheaper CDPro games on GoG and a lot of sales are probably discounted, so maybe that's 200 sales or so
They need to market gog with the fortune they make off of Cyberpunk 2077.
As a long time fan of GOG, I find this sad. Hopefully, more triple A publishers (and more Japanese ones) will start working with GOG more to make the store more desirable to gamers outside of the super-hardcore like myself.
@@LtSprinkulz well if you can only buy Cyberpunk 2077 on GOG...
@@XShrike0 You'll likely be able to get Cyperpunk 2077 on Steam as well, just like the Witcher games.
and there STILL isn't a cart... OVER A YEAR LATER.
Almost 2 years at this point.
Did they ever clean their shit off themselves?
... Why are you giving them money Pat?
EDIT: You made me feel so bad for GOG, I went and bought something lol
Because what Epic is doing is working and Pat probably doesn't care whether he buys from Steam or not
you know why
because it's free money..............
Because being a streamer and content creator means pursuing trends whether you like it or not.
Because people like you and me want Pat to suffer in our stead.
Pat isn't the best with financial choices. I think it was every 5 weeks a part of the original Best Friends podcast would be him going "Wait, what are these purchases on my account? Well, I guess I made them." And even on the Metal Gear Revengeance LP he opined about his bank account constantly getting broken into.
crazyinsane500 you just need to search Pat microtransactions to find out how not good with financial decisions he actually is
If Randy Pitchford of all people is cutting and running from Epic Store because of the sale disaster, then you flat out can't defend it anymore.
Scrandy Bitchturd tucking tail and running is a good fucking omen.
Hmm, Sale time and my favorite game is on the--
*Divekick FRAUD DETECTED warning*
Edit: 17:35 Everybody's Kill Bill sirens goes off
The funniest thing about this entire controversy is that despite not having anything to do with it, Randy Pitchford still managed to clown on himself while everything was going on.
So, I buy paper model kits for model railway layouts. You pay like $3, get a PDF file emailed to you, print and assemble it yourself
That site has a shopping cart.
I can't understand how the Epic Game Store doesn't have a shopping cart. It's such a basic thing.
Epic needs to know how to store... besides spending and taking money.
Epic: "But... what more is there?"
GOG figured out how to do the sales thing without devaluing years ago. Just offer the games at full price with a cash back offer, i.e sell the game worth 60$ for 60$, but give 20$ back to make the customer effectively pay 40$. Epic is so financially illiterate it's obvious that they're just a former fledgling studio that struck gold and have no idea what to do with it.
It's like when you get those lotto winners that try to build a business with their new money but fail horribly because they have zero knowledge or experience in management and only know how to throw money at the problem.
The mind goblins were having a party in Pats' head that day.
I now want Pat to own a hat store called "Pats Fancy Hats".
The Eastern Bloc pirating the game because its only worth $5 had me heehee-ing maniacally like an evil witch.
is anyone feeling the benefits of 'competition' yet?
"Dude...give me more dudes" made me almost choke on food
GOG's my favorite, but that might be due to my love for older games - their DRM politics and prices help too. Sadly I heard that Gwent and that Witcher adventure game turned out to be money sinks. Although you should note that they mainly sell old games for cheap, hence lower profits Pat.
I stuck with GOG because of their drm-free policy, but that low-profit stings me so hard.
Hades is in Hades by Epic
Also, they could've done better with the Genesis simile. Could have made it that you got your games, there's the console, but you have to hold the cartridge a certain way. You have to wiggle the TV adaptor to make it show on the TV. You have to tape the power adapter to stay in place. It works, but holy shit does it need a lot of help and tuning
Calling Steam and Epic Store a console war is like comparing The Switch and the Atari Jaguar CD. There's zero comparison in that mindset.
Does this qualify as a gigabotch?
Debatable. I think this falls more under the definition of Omega Flub tbh
I was going to use Turbofumble
Two Years on the Epic Store is Still shit.
That ice-cream analogy at the end was super depressing.
Lmao 5 separate purchases..
At the present time, the Epic store still doesn't appear to have a cart, and the newest feature is a browse button.
And then Polish grandma CDProjekt (with the headscarf on) goes "ohhh noooo...." and crosses herself while her husband puts his arms around her.
11:12 Oh! That good ol' SLIMY RANDY
Holy shit this store is the digital gaming equivalent of Fyre at this point. This is a pileup in not just slow motion but slow motion in 4k 1000fps filmed by Gavin and #Dantheman.
Woolie's response to learning that people defend Epic Store is funny and sad as you watch him lose another shred of hope in the human race
The disappointment in my eyes as a friend hears this, clicks over and has the gall to say it’s fine
So this is a demonstration of how NOT to compete with Steam.
1. Buy up exclusivity. This is going to piss people off and is just a bad PR move.
2. Set up an imitation shop that lacks most all of the coveted features of the system you are imitating. This will not only piss people off it will drive them away.
3. Have a sale before your site is ready to support it. This is just another way to drive customers away. When fraud protection is being triggered because your store front has no way to bundle purchases and items need to be physically removed from the store to stop the sale on them you are going to piss people off.
Nothing being played and being kicked in the shin is just like my experience watching Suicide Squad
So glad I waited for Hades to release on Steam.
The fact there are journalists and influencers still going to bat for this shitshow is insane.
And here we are in june of 2020 and they STILL don't have a shopping cart or other very basic storefront features. And these people are supposed to be competing with steam?
Oh look, another year and not a goddamn thing! Fucking go getters over here, look out everybody!
Read all about it.... Dwarven Canadian man calls Epic Store the Titanic of pc storefronts. Threatens to use baby hands to litter until situation is resolved.
I always go to buy some ice cream from Ma CD and Pa Projekt!
Rockstar/Take Two pulled similar price shenanigans to supergiant when GTA V got its first steam sale. Doubled the price for the 2015 summer sale, but in game currency was cheaper to buy with real currency
finally Pat is internet famous
thank god i have decided to pirate every single game that is exclusive to the epic store.
Doing God's work
Who else is coming back to this after kingdom hearts was announced to be exclusive to the epic games store?
I have come back to announce Kingdom Hearts has been announced for steam. Only took 3 years
I can't believe I have to use that store to play Borderlands 3 at launch...
I mean no ones telling you to buy on the epic store or to buy at launch
*laughs in console gamer*
Waiting a year or two till all DLC comes out and buying it cheaper is not an option huh?
Corwin Cori I guess you and me are the only ones
I'd rather not play it than use a bad product. Or just wait for the better option that has dlc
Ok, this is Epic.
Hey Pat, if you buy your Ubisoft games on steam, you also have them on Uplay by default, assuming your accounts are linked.
So if i want, i can just open Uplay and play FarCry 5, even tho i bought it on steam.
He said this in the video
Still a better service than EGS.
Interesting marketing strategy to appeal to gamers by also discouraging buying from your store.
Epic store isnt Epic as the name says, huh?
No it is currently quite shallow.
@@vashtanerada100 ikr, epic isnt Shying away from shoving their unfunctioning store to everybody's throat
Oh woolie, if he went to reddit he would see how many people defend the epic store relentlessly. Acting as if the people with genuine complaints are just overreacting.
And since rage 2 was mentioned, I'm waiting on rage 2s expansions to see what cool stuff they add because rage 2 has stuff going for it but its surprisingly short.
wherever a circlejerk exists contrarians will counterjerk, no matter how absurd the position they have to take. r/gamingcirclejerk has gone beyond parody to the point where it now regularly shits on popular games and supports anti-consumer practices.
Rage 2 isnt surprisingly short. Did you play the first one?
@@LtSprinkulz I did actually. I say I spent around maybe 11 ish hours in the game, taking my time. Also I really haven't finished rage 2 but many of said that its range is around 10-12 hours which is short for an open world game, considering how the last game was around that length. I expected it to be a bit longer and expand more on the world. With all that said I'm not counting the side activities, which there is a bunch of. I have spent a good chunk of time clearing out bases and taking my time so my mileage will probably be longer than most.
Fuck me, rage 2...
Epic has fanboys ?
Yeah, but it's made of dumbasses who think that Epic's bullshit is "proper competition! Yer just a salty Steam fanboy!!!"
That is sad that Epic can't even add a shopping cart for their store for another 6 months. And regarding the issues with using the other non-Steam client, well that's why I mostly buy from GOG, with a few exceptions. Also, I just want to say that GOG's last year profit being about $4,800 is disappointing. If more publishers were willing to give them a shot, they would be doing much better.
Poor Gog...
Woolie, things being garbage nevee stopped fanboys. That's what makes them who they are. Ignoring flaws and eating shit.
Steam used to do this around 2010 as well. I know cause I ran into the same issue before the big holiday sales were a thing.
Saying that, it's now 10 years later lol
I don't understand how there can be Epic Store fanboys. It comes off more as trolling.
I wish
I missed a sale and I'm still mad the only game I wanted but nope turns out they auto set my location to Brazil and I didn't know so had to get customer service to switch it back which was fast but was done the day after the sale on the game I wanted
MAN, I want GoG to succeed. :( Outside of lacking an "easy" refund policy(From my understanding), they are probably one of the more pro consumer store fronts.
I want them to succeed to, but a lot of these publishers (and some indie devs) make it very hard for them to.
EPIC nonsense
I haven't finished the video so maybe they say this as well, but these companies should really think twice and maybe make sure everything runs well before allowing themselves to become exclusives. The money might be better, but clearly the management isn't.
Kango234 this is not just an Epic or a video game industry thing. This is literally any current tech venture that’s been created. It’s basically the end result of the “disrupt movement”.
@@originalscreenname44 how can it be disruptive if no one cares.
Epic is going to have massive lawsuits over this and their store is basically dead already. The exclusives with Shenmue and Borderlands, the issues with not informing developers on sales, currency issues, like what the fuck? Why the hell would you ever put your game on the Epic Games Store when you can have so many things go wrong? There’s no advantage to it at all.
Epic in a nutshell: "Oh no! We fucked up the MONEY!"
Epic is either gonna get their shit together, or go under like games for windows. I really hope they listen to the people.
Let's see how this plays out folks.
26:31 no one remembers Thronebreaker :(
PASSING SAVINGS ON TO YOOOOOOUUU! Don't believe us? Smell our price gouging!
Pat's mistake was using Epic as a platform until they actually fix their shit.
When Jim mentioned Pat in a video I couldn't help but go yeyeyeye.
I hear that Epic's awfully loud
And then developers started pulling out of the Epic Store saying that they didn’t want to do the sale and weren’t told about the sale at all. Also I believe the Hades developer jacked their price up 10 dollars during the sale.
The 2 big ones being Borderlands 3 and V:TM 2 being the ones that pulled out from the store completely.
Thanks for the recap of the vid we just listened to
CyberNinjaZero I’m simply noting that while Epic has fucked up the sale, the ire gets put on the devs as well for doing this shit.
This is the first time I’ve EVER seen developers pull out of storefronts while others jacked up their prices because it went on sale with them going “We weren’t told about it.”
It’s like a manufacturer breaking into a retail store and taking everything they made off the shelves because it went on sale.
They are still on the store just not available during the sale.
They are not pulled completly, just for the sale.
@@ghostfear2011 It's almost like you have to ask a developer to put their content on sale, and if you do so without their permission, giving them less money, they can take their business elsewhere because thats shitty, or alter their prices to recoup the loss they didn't agree to having
i feel like nightschool studios is the only company they told. they tweeted out the preoreder sale and after party never went through any real bs and has been the same price since the start of the sale.
Roger Murtaugh said it best...
Pat and his Stand [Crazy Talk] grow more powerful every day.
Nothing wrong about anything he said here. Just sad to hear about GOG not making alot of money
Joseph I wouldn't mind if CDPR did a scummy move or pro consumer move like early access to cyberpunk 77 on GOG or exclusive to GOG for a month which is not that bad but in a way kinda bad
What no shopping cart on a fucking online store? What is this fucking travesty?
I’m the News! Me! Pat!
kinda sad hades is trapped. luckily, i'm a late adopter, so this doesn't hurt meeeeeeee.
Fun fact. This is one point to Epic Games. They will refund a game even if it goes against there return policy. If the game is known to not work for a majority of people. I didn't return my copy of red dead 2 until 3 weeks after getting the game. After 3 weeks of trying to get it to work. And they still refunded it.
can somebody explain the russia regional currency eastern block thing? I don't understand the problem with getting a game for $5.
I want to say it's the thing where low price implies low quality. If it's only 5 dollars it must be garbage, which I'm not going to give 5 dollars for in the first place, so I'll pirate it instead and save myself the trouble. Or something like that.
Factorio is the only game I know, that has a policy of 30 Bucks, no sale ever. and it sells well, it works, the price is stable, its value is known and consistent, and for the company income is stable, and people are willing to buy it whenever they come across it. Because there is no sale. there is no point in waiting to get it. smart customers on other indie games just go "eh i get it when its five bucks on GOG or something." and because they get steady income and no lows, development is ongoing to this day.
For once it wasn't Kotaku
Unfortunately it is not about people being EGS fanboys but more about people being happy that gamers are pissed off... You know, throwing around phrases like gamer tears, entitled gamers, crybabies, etc, etc.
All most “gamers” want to do is buy and play good games. Why are people talking about gamers as if they’re a roving cabal?
@@WetEipuriru I agree. Honestly, being bullied for playing games was almost better than this shit. Used to be much simpler.
And then those people faded into the background
I feel so bad for the GOG store... no good deed goes unpunished
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Oh my fucking God just got the eastern European part and I'm in shock
Pat still thinks sales are people paying HIM to buy things like Space hats and shit
Virtually every single online shop has a shopping cart, whether you are buying games, items on amazon, or groceries online. How can EGS be this much of a complete fuck up? It has to be a standard line of code, just put it in, or does China, EGS's newest market, not shopping carts with online purchases?