All of these patches, plus a few more, are available for purchase here! -> jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches This is my first time selling patches, so please contact me if you run into any issues (my email is in the video description)
That's a really cool trick, I can tell you that it's not something we thought of or tested for when we developed the DM12 but reassuring that the time I spent on the filter calibration routines was worthwhile :)
Super impressive. One of the increasingly rare moments on the internet when someone comes up with something new and not merely SEO-driven. Thank you, you've just got a new subscriber.
@@fortheloveofnoise SEO means Search Engine Optimization - the process of designing pages and content so that it's automatically ranked high by search engines.
@@fortheloveofnoise Search engine optimization. It is optimising content for appearing in search engines. There are tons of sites and programs for that , they tell you which words use, how many times, popular queries, and so on, and a lot of creators simply produce following SEO to get visibility, not by originality. So, we have so many similar content in videos and sites because everybody is trying to do the same. When we get good and original content is refreshing.
I love the Deepmind 12. It is so infinite when it comes to the way it sounds and what it can do. This is a synth that will forever stay in my collection. Great video. 👍👍👍👍👍
I knew what this was about just from reading the title because this is objectively the best thing to do with any polysynthesizer or any synthesizer really
Enjoyed❤ when I listened the Dm12 everywhere on TH-cam, I decided that this synthesizer was able to create original nice sounds, rich harmonics, and I brought it. The work you have done is amazing, exactly the way I search in modifying the better paches , first, because it is easier to let my imagination visiting musical lanscapes, so I will try on mine a walk inside your proposal . As I have the Dm12D, I pkay on a 88 midi keybed, this have also a importance, having also surprizing results. Modifying the scale also would be amazing. Thanks for the rips ❤
So glad to see the DeepMind getting some "Luv". My DM12 get as much use as my OB6. It's a Gem of a synth that is hands down one of the best values on the market. Great review of this "Forbidden" tech! Good luck with your channel!! Subscribed ;)
GREAT! I own a deepmind12 and tried to play with the filter but always got messy pitch sounds, i didn't know about the calibration! Thnank you, this vid was REALLY inspiring! DM12 is a BEAST!
Subbed mate! We need more people like you to show us how to create new sounds. I got mine last June. (I know its off topic but..) I played a preset, something like a clap I messed about with it for over an hour then. The result was the sound of a realistic helicopter engine starting up to full throttle. I'd forgot my living room windows were open; then I heard a loud knock on the door (the volume was on full). It was my neighbour asking me if I'd got a very h large RC helicopter engine running in my flat. I told Jim what it was. He laughed and said he thought it was a real one at first but couldn't see it. Then he spotted my open windows....😂😂😂😂
Great vid and content! I also use the LFO, and drive it (almost) to audio rate. Then I key track it, and use it to modulate frequency and filter cutoff... You geat very gritty results. DeepMind unfortunatelly is very underrated by some folks. Yet IMHO what Behringer did, with the simple voice design integrated with a plethora of FX and mod options was genious.
Yep I use a similar trick on the Bellz patch if you zoom in on the mod matrix. The LFO at audio rate is modulates the VCF cutoff for a brief instant at the beginning of each note to create the illusion of a noisy metallic attack
I love your enthusiasm! Knowing this adds value to the product and this is the instrument which I thought Behringer should have created and they did and of course went crazy on everything else to take advantage of the retro, vintage blah blah marketing with their economy of scale production model. Quality control is still on everyone’s “Mind” haha but if you luck out with a Behringer product, you really do.
Back in the 80s a number of different synthesizers gave you the ability to drive the filters into oscillation but at some point manufacturers put limits on how far you could drive the filters and therefore they would stop before they went into oscillation. I'd sure like to know why they decided to do that because they took away some really cool capabilities of their synthesizers
Back in the 80’s? I think manufacturers were still trying to market synths to the Home Organist market or other people who may look at having too many options as a defect.
@@frankstetka7206 and in the 80s we had an explosion of disco and new wave synth bands that topped the charts and always looking for new sounds. Some manufactures may have been out of touch with their end users
❤will try on mine D12D. The mode matrix is partly why I brought this instrument. Thanks a lot. Amazing creative sounds. These are just in the middle of my sound's scapes. Natural fields.
Very cool, I subscribed :) I did work out some of these tricks myself but you explained them very well and I didn't knew about the calibration trick to get a more stable pitch. Will look for more of your content. Cheers !
@@jakubdomine I played with some of these tricks yesterday and find another "hidden" oscillator, maybe you already know about it, but if you modulate the noise level with a very fast LFO, you gonna have a bass sound (triangle LFO sound great for this). You can then map the key num to the lfo rate, et voilà. Additionaly, I also did the self oscillating filter trick and end up with a patch of 2 "oscillators" without using neither OSC1 or OSC2. 🙂
That's a cool trick and not something I've thought of before. The Uni Voice source is very powerful. You can use it to create almost layered-like sounds by using 2x or 3x unison and modifying some parameters based on the Uni voice, or even create "binaural" sounds similar to the Super6 by panning two uni voices left and right and offsetting LFO's etc., and apparently you can even use it to do additive synthesis. Makes me think the DM could quite easily have been truly multitimbral, seeing as you can already modify a lot of the parameters individually for each voice.
Yeah it sounded epic ! How did you make this tonal wind noise? I tried for years to make a sound like that from scratch and could never do exactly that !
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Hm, interesting. I’ve only messed around with these kinds of sounds on 4-6 operator FM synths with the carriers all in parallel. But that slight waviness of the VCF is nice. And thinking about it, my big analogue(-y) has 2 oscillators capable of sines, a great resonant VCF, and an HF-LFO mode also capable of sines. So that’s 4 harmonics in parallel right there on my other hardware synth. Heck, maybe I could combine them and play in sync over MIDI for a whacking great big 10-harmonic organ.
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
I’ve been doing this on my minifreak by setting the keyboard to modulate cutoff by 50 and setting the cutoff to 56 and then it plays in key with that analog sound
@@jakubdomine I’m going to try exploring this idea tonight. It sounds really good on the DM12. Awesome and innovative patching! Thanks for sharing the idea.
I think musicians should start taking this synth more seriously as a part of their groups set up, just like they do with their Moogs, Korgs, Rolands and Yamaha's. I've had mine a year, and I've barely scratched it's surface of what it's capable of producing!.
Once again a great video and beautiful patches, the "sine winds" sounds very close to physical modeling (the filter resonance trick basically is (karplus strong) though but I assume you mix in noise here and it's the fx section that gives it the breathy characteristics). And yeah it's certainly additive synthesis with a limited number of partials.
Thank you! And yeah, a proper additive synth would let you layer many more sine waves and do so with more control over each frequency, but this method isn’t half bad all things considered
@@jakubdomine Good stuff. I love smart use of gear, but I think sharing passion for the music that inspires us is even more important. I love that you share both! :D
If you check out the Gearspace link in the description, Zapman also figured out that you can use a unipolar LFO to alternate using the DCO and the VCF as your sound source on every other voice. Crazy stuff
I calibrated mine and now all I get using this technique is like a rising sound like old skool lasers. I have copied his settings and not working at moment.any help? 5:05
Dude, awesome. Can i ask if you can do an update to this video if you happen to have multiple Units that you can utilize the poly-chain function for? If not, I can. I have two DeepMind 6's and a 12D... I will happily pay you for your work here and post a video trying it if you like. What's your prediction of that method and these new sysnthesis approaches for these units? Lastly, can you edit this parameters easier in the iPad app integration
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
Is there a way to spread the sound using Unison 2 and paning one layer to the left and other to the right? I now it is possible to do pan spread with individual notes but I'm willing to now if there's a trick to this other thing
@@agustinperez8217 yes if you check out my Radiohead video I explain how to do this in depth. The gist is mapping Uni Voice -> VCA Pan while you’re in Unison 2 mode.
Nice trick, but in spite of the calibration the pitch is still all over the place - and almost impossible to get in tune with oscillator 1 and 2 or any other instrument - and therefore not very useful in a musical environment. I have given up for now after producing an, albeit quite convincing, X-files whistle. I managed to get some very nice bell-like sounds with oscillator 1 and 2. It’s a tedious job, but it is doable.
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
All of these patches, plus a few more, are available for purchase here! -> jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
This is my first time selling patches, so please contact me if you run into any issues (my email is in the video description)
Didn't see it until now, but purchased to support your good work!
That's a really cool trick, I can tell you that it's not something we thought of or tested for when we developed the DM12 but reassuring that the time I spent on the filter calibration routines was worthwhile :)
Please, tell Behringer to make more original synths. The Deepmind is the best synth they’ve ever made.
Thank you, you and your team did a miraculous job on the DM! You know a system is great when it holds up well under weird edge conditions like this.
Hello 🙂 Is there any way to update a firmware to be able to control volume of osc1? Thanks.
@@sub-jec-tiv totally agree, I hope that amongst the clones they can use the knowledge they've acquired to make something new and unique
Is there a DeepMind mkii in the works?
Wow, this is awesome!! So nice to see more love for the Deepmind, such a massively underrated synth. Subbed!
Thanks for the sub!
You make me realise how I haven’t even scratched the surface of my DM12 👌🏼
Great channel glad it’s growing, much deserved💯
Thank you!
Super impressive. One of the increasingly rare moments on the internet when someone comes up with something new and not merely SEO-driven. Thank you, you've just got a new subscriber.
What does SEO mean?
Thank you, that’s very kind! Again, I do feel the need to credit Zapman (see link in description) for discovering and documenting it well before I did
@@fortheloveofnoise SEO means Search Engine Optimization - the process of designing pages and content so that it's automatically ranked high by search engines.
@@fortheloveofnoise Search engine optimization. It is optimising content for appearing in search engines. There are tons of sites and programs for that , they tell you which words use, how many times, popular queries, and so on, and a lot of creators simply produce following SEO to get visibility, not by originality. So, we have so many similar content in videos and sites because everybody is trying to do the same. When we get good and original content is refreshing.
That Sines Wind is so relaxing.
I love the Deepmind 12. It is so infinite when it comes to the way it sounds and what it can do. This is a synth that will forever stay in my collection. Great video. 👍👍👍👍👍
I knew what this was about just from reading the title because this is objectively the best thing to do with any polysynthesizer or any synthesizer really
Enjoyed❤ when I listened the Dm12 everywhere on TH-cam, I decided that this synthesizer was able to create original nice sounds, rich harmonics, and I brought it. The work you have done is amazing, exactly the way I search in modifying the better paches , first, because it is easier to let my imagination visiting musical lanscapes, so I will try on mine a walk inside your proposal .
As I have the Dm12D, I pkay on a 88 midi keybed, this have also a importance, having also surprizing results. Modifying the scale also would be amazing. Thanks for the rips ❤
Really a game changer! The Deepmind is an amazing synth for creative purposes and you just showcased that here again. Awesome work!
You've really unlocked the potential of the deepmind! Look forward to more videos
Jakub, I take my hat off to you, sir! This video is top, top notch! Thank you for putting it together!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
So glad to see the DeepMind getting some "Luv". My DM12 get as much use as my OB6. It's a Gem of a synth that is hands down one of the best values on the market. Great review of this "Forbidden" tech! Good luck with your channel!! Subscribed ;)
Your videos give so much validation to the power of the DeepMind engine
GREAT! I own a deepmind12 and tried to play with the filter but always got messy pitch sounds, i didn't know about the calibration! Thnank you, this vid was REALLY inspiring! DM12 is a BEAST!
Best Deepmind demos. Shows the flexibility
Great creativity! Expands the capability of the DM12. Sounds great.
Great work!! The synth sounds amazing!
Ayy thanks Tarcan!
Awesome patch! I can't wait to try this on my DM.
Subbed mate! We need more people like you to show us how to create new sounds. I got mine last June. (I know its off topic but..) I played a preset, something like a clap I messed about with it for over an hour then. The result was the sound of a realistic helicopter engine starting up to full throttle. I'd forgot my living room windows were open; then I heard a loud knock on the door (the volume was on full). It was my neighbour asking me if I'd got a very h large RC helicopter engine running in my flat. I told Jim what it was. He laughed and said he thought it was a real one at first but couldn't see it. Then he spotted my open windows....😂😂😂😂
Great vid and content! I also use the LFO, and drive it (almost) to audio rate. Then I key track it, and use it to modulate frequency and filter cutoff... You geat very gritty results. DeepMind unfortunatelly is very underrated by some folks. Yet IMHO what Behringer did, with the simple voice design integrated with a plethora of FX and mod options was genious.
Yep I use a similar trick on the Bellz patch if you zoom in on the mod matrix. The LFO at audio rate is modulates the VCF cutoff for a brief instant at the beginning of each note to create the illusion of a noisy metallic attack
Damn! Thank you! This is going to breathe new life into my DeepMind 6 (which has been a glorified master keyboard for a while)!
Great video, got one of these arriving on Saturday!
Lovely work on this, awesome tones Jakub !
thank you!
Crown Point here. I like where you are going with this. Hope your channel grows quickly!
thank you!
Super Mario Galaxy lullaby goes hard on the Bellz patch!
Worth a sub for that organ tone alone! Cheers!
Thank you!
Great approach man! Thanks for sharing!
Very intriguing and interesting. Good patches
That’s superb work, well done.
My mind is blown. Thank you for sharing this. You're a great player.
Indeed a very cool and helpful video!
I love your enthusiasm! Knowing this adds value to the product and this is the instrument which I thought Behringer should have created and they did and of course went crazy on everything else to take advantage of the retro, vintage blah blah marketing with their economy of scale production model. Quality control is still on everyone’s “Mind” haha but if you luck out with a Behringer product, you really do.
I love this. It's a variation of a mixer synth hack with the loop but you get keys instead of drones.
Beautiful sound design
Back in the 80s a number of different synthesizers gave you the ability to drive the filters into oscillation but at some point manufacturers put limits on how far you could drive the filters and therefore they would stop before they went into oscillation. I'd sure like to know why they decided to do that because they took away some really cool capabilities of their synthesizers
Back in the 80’s? I think manufacturers were still trying to market synths to the Home Organist market or other people who may look at having too many options as a defect.
@@frankstetka7206 and in the 80s we had an explosion of disco and new wave synth bands that topped the charts and always looking for new sounds. Some manufactures may have been out of touch with their end users
Yoo that bell sound is so cool
Nice tones, good synth for the
Price tag.
Lovely trick with the unison mode that is actually polyphonic! Can’t wait to see what you’ll do with a MiniFreak 😄
Great video. Going to port some of these ideas to my Blofelds as they have a unisono modulation that should be able to make some nice additive sounds.
5:34 Holy shit! That sound is amazing! And I love the pitch shift at 5:49 and 6:05 .
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing
Broooo, you got the old Tapco Monitors!!! Haven't seen those since I left China. By the way awesome video!
❤will try on mine D12D. The mode matrix is partly why I brought this instrument. Thanks a lot. Amazing creative sounds. These are just in the middle of my sound's scapes. Natural fields.
Very cool, I subscribed :) I did work out some of these tricks myself but you explained them very well and I didn't knew about the calibration trick to get a more stable pitch. Will look for more of your content. Cheers !
Thanks for the sub!
@@jakubdomine I played with some of these tricks yesterday and find another "hidden" oscillator, maybe you already know about it, but if you modulate the noise level with a very fast LFO, you gonna have a bass sound (triangle LFO sound great for this). You can then map the key num to the lfo rate, et voilà. Additionaly, I also did the self oscillating filter trick and end up with a patch of 2 "oscillators" without using neither OSC1 or OSC2. 🙂
Very very nice. It’s very FM synth. My Take5 does that. The DM12 is such an amazing synth!
That's a cool trick and not something I've thought of before.
The Uni Voice source is very powerful. You can use it to create almost layered-like sounds by using 2x or 3x unison and modifying some parameters based on the Uni voice, or even create "binaural" sounds similar to the Super6 by panning two uni voices left and right and offsetting LFO's etc., and apparently you can even use it to do additive synthesis. Makes me think the DM could quite easily have been truly multitimbral, seeing as you can already modify a lot of the parameters individually for each voice.
Yeah, multi-timbrality seems to be the most missed feature on the DM12 when I watch other reviews of the synth
As a newbie here, "I'll just start here" isn't enough. How do I find a slot? How can I follow this without burning stuff?
You are really good, keep it up ! Original ideas count!
I would love to hear the celeste sound you made done in a low grand piano tone. Good stuff!
his name is jakub
Theo
Like that sparkly sequence pad at 5:35 a lot!
Sines wind is mindblowing!
Thank you!
Yeah it sounded epic ! How did you make this tonal wind noise? I tried for years to make a sound like that from scratch and could never do exactly that !
I just listed Sines Wind (plus 9 more patches) for sale on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
That's not additive. What he was describing was FM synthesis.
Hm, interesting. I’ve only messed around with these kinds of sounds on 4-6 operator FM synths with the carriers all in parallel. But that slight waviness of the VCF is nice. And thinking about it, my big analogue(-y) has 2 oscillators capable of sines, a great resonant VCF, and an HF-LFO mode also capable of sines. So that’s 4 harmonics in parallel right there on my other hardware synth. Heck, maybe I could combine them and play in sync over MIDI for a whacking great big 10-harmonic organ.
this is just insane! I feel like you just opened a portal
I'd love copies of these patches!
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Brooo!! Please do more videos about the deepmind 12!
Would be cool to get the Sysex files for these patches
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I’ve been doing this on my minifreak by setting the keyboard to modulate cutoff by 50 and setting the cutoff to 56 and then it plays in key with that analog sound
Great stuff. Looking forward to trying out this technique on my Roland Fantom (which also has a self-oscillating filter :-))
Thanks for posting. Great tutorial. Nice inset of the screen 👌
Thanks, currently just my phone camera on a tripod pointed at the screen. Should probably find a cleaner solution haha
This is super cool and makes me wonder if I could do a similar thing on my Hydrasynth with the voice mod…🤔
Thank you! I’m not familiar w patching on the Hydrasynth but if it has a similarly full mod matrix and analog filters then it could be possible!
@@jakubdomine I’m going to try exploring this idea tonight. It sounds really good on the DM12. Awesome and innovative patching! Thanks for sharing the idea.
H46 Sines Arp Crush goes so hard
hell yeah ty brother
That arp patch is so awesome, would like to see a tutorial one day!
fantastic!
wish you would do some microfreak videos! love your style of explaining
10:50 did you say layering pipes? 🧐
My question is if I save this patch I presume I need to calibrate the VCF before I can use it?
I think musicians should start taking this synth more seriously as a part of their groups set up, just like they do with their Moogs, Korgs, Rolands and Yamaha's. I've had mine a year, and I've barely scratched it's surface of what it's capable of producing!.
thats right bb. proud of you.
i subscribed because we use the same Tapco Monitors,i stayed for the nice tips.
10:12 ice cream man!!
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
Anyone else amused at the old Windows start-up sound for the "bells" patch setup?
Once again a great video and beautiful patches, the "sine winds" sounds very close to physical modeling (the filter resonance trick basically is (karplus strong) though but I assume you mix in noise here and it's the fx section that gives it the breathy characteristics). And yeah it's certainly additive synthesis with a limited number of partials.
Thank you! And yeah, a proper additive synth would let you layer many more sine waves and do so with more control over each frequency, but this method isn’t half bad all things considered
Great another reason to get one of these... Thanks =)
Wow great job!!
Great video! I love the sounds, the demos are awesome and your explanations are very clear.
Also... is this the fudging Luma theme at 13:37? :O
LOL I was hoping someone would notice that. Big SM Galaxy fan over here
@@jakubdomine Good stuff. I love smart use of gear, but I think sharing passion for the music that inspires us is even more important. I love that you share both! :D
thanks! It’s all about the music at the end of the day
Excellent thinking. Next port of call: adding the DCOs back in : - )
If you check out the Gearspace link in the description, Zapman also figured out that you can use a unipolar LFO to alternate using the DCO and the VCF as your sound source on every other voice. Crazy stuff
I calibrated mine and now all I get using this technique is like a rising sound like old skool lasers. I have copied his settings and not working at moment.any help? 5:05
I’d check that both your VCF Env and VCF LFO sliders are set to 0!
They've got a LOT of under-rated gear. The vamp pro rackmount guitar amp modeller was incredible. Got mine for $75 used.
Dude, awesome. Can i ask if you can do an update to this video if you happen to have multiple Units that you can utilize the poly-chain function for? If not, I can. I have two DeepMind 6's and a 12D... I will happily pay you for your work here and post a video trying it if you like. What's your prediction of that method and these new sysnthesis approaches for these units? Lastly, can you edit this parameters easier in the iPad app integration
I was waiting for the forbidden slap bass
I wish the filter on the Alpha Juno had self resonance.
You can totally do this on the hydrasynth!
Are your patches available anywhere to download?
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
Is there a way to spread the sound using Unison 2 and paning one layer to the left and other to the right? I now it is possible to do pan spread with individual notes but I'm willing to now if there's a trick to this other thing
@@agustinperez8217 yes if you check out my Radiohead video I explain how to do this in depth. The gist is mapping Uni Voice -> VCA Pan while you’re in Unison 2 mode.
That was good. A useful synth. Nice detailed work Very Roland menu style but the screen is at least 3 X times bigger than my Jupiter X damm.
hey behringer can you guys update the os so the filter tracking is saved ?
Lovely Tricks!
So glad I didn’t sell mine. I have the desktop version.
@10:18 this sounds like the opening sequence to some video game publisher from the golden era, can't put my finger on it.
Konami th-cam.com/video/oCvpQKY0Ly4/w-d-xo.html
That organ sound at the end is spot on. Do you have a tutorial on now to build it?
If you're familiar with synths, you may have seen this coming.
I am not familiar with synths and I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about!
Nice trick, but in spite of the calibration the pitch is still all over the place - and almost impossible to get in tune with oscillator 1 and 2 or any other instrument - and therefore not very useful in a musical environment. I have given up for now after producing an, albeit quite convincing, X-files whistle.
I managed to get some very nice bell-like sounds with oscillator 1 and 2. It’s a tedious job, but it is doable.
Sweet !
Fire.
Anyone made these patches yet? I'd love them for sure. I have the dm12
I just listed them all (plus some more) on Gumroad! First time selling patches so please lmk if you have any issues jakubdomine.gumroad.com/l/forbidden_patches
Great! Any tips where to start as a newbie to this? I’m overwhelmed by its complexity, still have no starting point