IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW (Highly recommend to read this!) This Iceberg has been created by Reddit User u/The_Dream_Castle Feel free to correct me & or add something to these topics, I might've summarized them too much and might've missed out a few things. I really hope you enjoyed watching this Iceberg - This is something that I have planned to make for a few months now and it's finally out there. 😇 Credits & Corrections: (Will add each of them this week as I am still studying IRL) Footage used from (Credits): @halfnhalf_madam (PoleDancing) @TheVRCArchive ( RIpping / Laughing Coffin/ Prop Spam etc.) @Sippbox (Gestures) @LPD (LPD; Roleplay) @Syrmor (Uganda Knuckles) @NatGeo (Phantom Sense) u/TheZiver (Great Pug Moon Controversy) u/The_Dream_Castle (made Iceberg) u/Saculu (Seizure Incident Clip) Corrections (by TheVRCArchive & general Corrections): 1) Spam portals where a modded client not VRchat not removeing portals. 31:12 2) "laughing Coffin" are still around but not really on VRC, there are just a lot of fan boys. 25:40 3) there are no hired crashers. 30:58 4) Laughing avatar is not a thing (in this context atleast) and laughing coffin never used the model, its the KohzieBoi base model by Kohzie lol. 31:25 5) crash groups are not a cult. 25:05 6) prop spam cant send people off the map, they just spam the view port. 30:45 7) I`m sure components have been damaged in the history of VRC but there is no true way to brick someones PC. and raw custom scripts that are not udon C# are not possible to upload on VRC. 32:11 8) we are not bothered to even really address this one lol 37:56 9) logging clients where a log of the user using the client not other users. 33:42 10) Article that I mentioned was written by Ron Miller, not Tupper. 27:02 11) The Seizure Incident was recorded by rogueshadow though rebranded as AI Angel 24:30 and 34:50
i feel like its important to mention also vr physical and mental exercise communities like breakdancing, belly dancing, Just Dance, workouts, yoga, meditation, .. maybe even things like escape rooms, puzzle worlds! lots of things that help people stay healthy while using vr, find support networks, find community, and discover fun and active ways to use VR that isnt sitting or laying down 24/7 its an often overlooked subset of vrchat communities and events that i recommend to everybody who plays VRC, as it provides a “free” opportunity to exercise your body and mind for personal wellness and fitness, which often can be more accessible, affordable, entertaining, anonymous, and friendly relative to going to the gym or a workout class, without having to physically be present in the area, while still being “around” other people
for the largest avi is around 1.7 gb to 2.1 gb if i remember correctly(that i personally saw). i remember it was in the gb because it took a good portion of my data cap back then
I got something to add up :) The "The Truth" world is still accessable tho the video player is just blank now and doesnt play any gore videos anymore, it was made by Feroni in march 2020 and got updated in july 2020, where the videoplayer got blocked.
Hey, I'm the creator of the iceberg. I'm Thankful that you covered my iceberg. I do want to clear up some misconceptions. Liminal Spaces: This entry isn't specifically for worlds made to be liminal but for the feeling VRChat worlds can give off, especially in an empty server. Climbing/Gliding: When VRChat was running 2.0 worlds, players could glide through the air by rapidly pressing any direction key/button. They could also climb walls by rapidly jumping and pressing against a wall. Pug moon: In the old days of the Pug, the moon was an entire 3D object you could stand on (if you knew how to get up there.) The world creator changed the moon into a PNG in an update to save on space. Therapy: This entry refers to people conducting therapy sessions within VRChat, from one-on-one sessions to group therapy. This form of therapy isn't reliable since the so-called therapists are usually not qualified or learn psychology through internet videos. VRChat can work as a tool for social anxiety, but it's better to actually go see a qualified therapist. Pug basement: The Pug basement could only be accessed by doing an Easter egg within the world, similar to cod zombies. Laughing avatar: There was an incident a few years back when a hacker manually changed other players' avatars into a crasher that would crash VRChat upon start-up. Players would either have to manually change their avatar through the VRChat site or use a shortcut command upon start-up of VRChat. Portal Spam: Portals did always have timers though hackers could bypass this and have portals that stay on the server indefinitely. Sponsored ERP Events: This refers to companies that produce.......certain products that allow......long distant interactions or.......enhance certain VR experiences. They would sometimes get themselves involved with larger ERP communities to promote their products. This might be fact, this might be bs, i'm not too sure. Password stealing client: It's a client that would dig up pre-existing leaked information and showcase said information to the entire server. It's not really a password stealer. Biggest Avatar: This refers to a now deleted VRChat world that housed an avatar that is so large that it makes the game unplayable unless the player manually changes their avatar through the website or use a shortcut command upon start up. The Truth: Its a world that mainly showed creepy videos, not gore content. The world is still up but is broken due to TH-cam deleting some of the video content. Ronnie McNutt avatar: An avatar that used to exist but thankfully is lost. It was an invisible avatar which play the audio clip of Ronnie's last words to everyone in the world before putting a shader on everyone's screens showing Ronnie K***ing himself followed by other gore content, harsh noise music and screaming.
ah I see the context of "Laughing avatar" now. There was a client called Green-Grey that would let somone swap your avatar into whatever avatar ID they wanted (often a avatar that would crash, yourself) this client also had ram lag, as well as the ability to change portal IDs and much, much more. (correct us if we are wrong, we cant find the original video so its based of memory) I think there was a vid going around at the time, where someone is swapped into the default Robot with a smile and the kira laugh from death note would play and their game would crash so that would make sense on why its called "Laughing avatar" 🤔🤔
Was Japan Shrine referring to the classic lost world by RootGentle that recently resurfaced? The predecessor to ITOAR's Japan Shrine (shown in this video).
17:01 Hii! I’m one of those vr sleepers. I sleep on vr because it can feel like camping! Or occasionally sleeping in a different place then my bedroom can soothe me when I’m not in a good place. It can also feel oddly grounding to sleep around other people, even strangers.
@@kiapandora2510 fellow vr sleeper here! once you get used to it, the headset really isnt that heavy, and if it does feel heavy, i like to put a pillow in front of my head to prop the headset up! the cushions on the headset are also comfortable, and feels like a sleep mask!
@@kiapandora2510esp with the higher end headsets, you don’t notice it as much after a few hours of playing and by the time you go to sleep you’re pretty tired
I dont condone this tho i can respect the camping perspective i think it is really unhealthy for human facial formation due to the heavyness and heat produced by the headset causing sweat and other heat related issues to your skin, etc. I always insist users remove their headsets before falling asleep just for reasons as such. I hope what I said may change your mind about sleeping in vr and possibly help you spread this info to others or look back on it yourself. @@hjonk_goosie
Something I would add is "Same Face Syndrome", where a head model becomes so popular that avatars start to look eerily similar. It's definitely made its way through the more realistic looking female avatars😅. This was a great video and I did learn some new things!
11:59 Am one of those peeps that met my S.O. in VRC. We ended up getting happily Married in October after visiting a few times and dating for nearly two years.
Same here. Met my girl in vrc about 3 and a half years ago back when we were still in highschool. Now we live together accomplishing our career goals and soon to be engaged. Haven’t been on vrc in about 2 ish years but we are thinking of getting a rig set up together to visit it again
RIP KMB (KittenMarchingBand) We used to do marches for charity by jumping lobbies, playing our music and doing a small kitten marching band, it used to be so fun
@@jdiroh2645 it definitely used to be very fun, gave a nice safe space for kids to be around too since they would mainly be around more wholesome content meant for charity and having fun over anything.
@artemuswithau glad to know they are doing well, I used to be an artist for them but I think after alot of issues and transfer of power back then I kinda moved on to other things
With regards to the great pug, the moon used to be a physical object in the world, much like a table or a chair. With a modded client, it was previously accessible for someone to click it and teleport to it, often leading to questions from others with nameplates on as to how they're over there, probably greatly popularizing modded clients. The pug was eventually updated to where the moon is now just an image file.
your still able to go on top of the moon today it just looks like a image and i dont think its ever been a image i have flying colliders on my avatar an just tested it but i think originally there were 3 ways of going to the moon one being from modded clients, flying colliders, and a custom chair animation on a avatar.
@@albion4008 The way I got on it was with one of the < avatars with a seat and an extending gimmick. It was an image at one point (for like a month tops) which is why there was the "bring back the moon" campaign in the first place.
24:51 bro called it "crash monkeys" and its a what??? LMAO also thanks for using our thumbnails and stuff I guess, good to know they are being put to use XD You did a good job but maybe do a lil more research on some things next time. You got a lot of other stuff right but You got a lot wrong in the vid in regards to LC and monkey stuff. 1) Spam portals where a modded client not VRchat not removeing portals. 31:12 2) "laughing Coffin" are still around but not really on VRC, there are just a lot of fan boys. 25:40 3) there are no hired crashers. 30:58 4) Laughing avatar is not a thing (in this context atleast) and laughing coffin never used the model, its the KohzieBoi base model by Kohzie lol. 31:25 5) crash groups are not a cult. 25:05 6) prop spam cant send people off the map, they just spam the view port. 30:45 7) I`m sure components have been damaged in the history of VRC but there is no true way to brick someones PC. and raw custom scripts that are not udon C# are not possible to upload on VRC. 32:11 8) we are not bothered to even really address this one lol 37:56 9) logging clients where a log of the user using the client not other users. 33:42 Anyway, no hate bro, just thought we would correct you on the stuff we know a lot about. (edit: changed a time stamp)
Thank you for correcting some of the stuff! No genuinely! Pardon me for not crediting, this video was stuffed with footage and it was difficult for me to sort & credit each and every Image & Video.
@@Parzeval ur fine, Dw abt it, we don’t mind having it used at all, it’s why we post it! Just unexpected to see it used for this lol Apologies for being such a 🤓 “uuhh actually” we just know a lot about this particular side of VRchat and wanted to set the record straight on the stuff we knew about. Rest of the vid is great though. ❤️
@@TheVRCArchive Can I respectfully ask how you can confirm "There are no hired crashers"? Completely genuinely-- I just figured there'd be no way to confirm something like that? Or are you more saying "There's no organized group/specific known individuals you can hire."?
@@null7198 yeah np, like you said, There's no organized group/specific known individuals you can hire. I guess in VRC as a whole it may be plausible someone could pay users to be targeted. If there was, a group like this, they would be laughed at and no one would take serious. in the nearly 5 years of our members being in 100s of groups like this, none of us have ever seen it, or even heard of it. If it did ever happen it would of just been one individual, most likely a kid. and useing that sort of logic u could say almost anything is on VRC. AKA: there are no hired crasher groups. the closest thing we have ever seen to it is hired bots. Even then no one bought into it.
Finally, thanks for adding subtitles. I really like your channel. You, Phia and Derafrog are the best VRChat TH-camrs. I love VRChat videos that aren't silly Sonic roleplays, but rather documentary essay videos.
You used to be able to open the pug basement with doing secret motions like placing cups on certain cup holders years ago. idk if that's still a thing today, it was interesting I never learned it so I can't try I just remember ppl showing me and opening the basement.
it was part of the mr wiskers arg event that involved several different worlds. the part of it that took place in the pug had a portal appearing in the basement once you opened it. it took you to a distorted version of the pug. there also used to be a bucket at the bar, if you dropped it upside down infront of the door and stood on it you could clip in.
To clarify about the 3D moon used in the Great Pug, users would go to it via playspace or other method like GoGo Loco (correct me if I'm wrong) and spend time over there. The 3D moon was then changed to a PNG which users retaliated and made an avatar animation supporting the return of the 3D moon. A few weeks later, it returned.
While there are mirror dwellers that do sit in front of a mirror and do nothing and talk to no one fore hours then log off, from my experience they're a small fraction of mirror dwellers. In my experience, mirror dwellers are typically people that have a group of friends in VR and they mostly gather in front of mirrors and hangout and talk. Mirror dwellers can also be people who have social anxiety and are more comfortable listening to the people around them instead of actively interacting. Lastly, and this ties into the hanging out with friends aspect. By sitting in front of a mirror you can easily look at eachothers avatars while talking. Or maybe see flaws in your avatar that need worked on. But I rarely meet mirror dwellers that want nothing to do with interacting. That makes mirror dwellers seem irrational and theres usually a sensible reason why mirror dwellers dwell.
"largest avatar?" what? Someone i know of, Psychloor, uploaded the entirety of Kung Fury on an avatar with custom shaders to play the frames as spritsheets, it was just barely under 2GB. Watching Kung Fury in VR from an avatar was an amusing experience.
I'm surprised Xignion and their shenanigans weren't brought up in the iceberg. As they did some shitty stuff in the end to then become a vtuber for some company. Nice video btw I liked it 😊
Yep and made me stop supporting Garushadowscales videos. I feel sick now, I have been watching his cult of the lamb and deltarune shorts. He is a child diddler...whollycrap..how many veiws did I give that wretched peice of garbage
20:45 holy shit. I used to be really good friends with the owner of VRChat Kmart and was active in the community for years. I left after making a small documentary about the store because he got a little weird and definitely had some boundary issues, but I never knew about these allegations until now. Hell of a way to find out. Makes me happy I left sooner rather than later.
I’m sad that OfficialSayon isn’t on the list he was well known up until he moved from VrChat to Chillout and back on VRChat for his horror maps 😔 Edit: I’ll put my 2 cents in and say this: Fever Dream or Mickey’s Fever Dream isn’t scary to me,it’s funny maybe it could be that I’ve never experienced a “fever dream” before but I never found that world remotely scary/disturbing 😅😅
Met my girl in vrc about 3 and a half years ago back when we were still in highschool. Now we live together accomplishing our career goals and soon to be engaged. Haven’t been on vrc in about 2 ish years but we are thinking of getting a rig set up together to visit it again.
The alcoholism in vrc is a real problem. I have heard the sound of a mother that lost her son through the mic of someone we thought was just passed out in a drinking night
I feel like "gliding" might of been when you'd spam forward while falling you'd actually like glitch glide instead of falling. kinda like ud spawn some imaginary platform every first step you took or something, same happened with walls u could like rapid jump and walk into them to climb them. but of these aren't a thing anymore. I think there used to be a feature to add back the legacy movement when it first got removed though, idk if that's still a thing.
Hover-walking! At least that's what I've come to know it as, it started to disappear with the UDON update to VRChat since the movement was different. You could still experience it in worlds that used the old SDK2
layer 5 "vrchat zoo" refers to going to public lobbies to look at the husks that sit infront of the mirror and other shenanagans... aka going to the zoo. Layer 6 "sponsored erp events" refers to the company lovens sponsoring multiple events in vrchat the most recent one i can think of was one of the fishbowl collabs and "biggest avatar size" is not 980mb the biggest avatar i have seen personaly as 1.9gigs.... didnt see the avatar itself tho cause it crashed my vrchat when it loaded level 7 "ripper hunt" correction: ripperstore is still up. also techgangster being at level 7 is a bit too deep. everyone and their mom knows about him... also i suprised this needed this many layers... most/all of this is just commonly known knowlage.
I only just watched this video and haven't looked at his channel yet so please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't believe this person has interacted with the VRChat community a whole lot before making this video, but to be fair a lot of thos information, especially things like crasjers and crasher groups aren't really spread out online and is more word of mouth, y'know something you'd only hear from someone or encountering it for yourself. It's fair to say a person who knows nothing about it and did their best scraping for a lot lf info did good, but would've done it better if they had floated in the pool for a bit longer.
Wow! So much to see and think about. I think you did a great job researching and presenting this, Parzeval. I have to admit, I knew a lot of things from the first three layers, but very little past that. Yes, there are a lot of things going on, but then I have lived long enough to know that there are a lot of things going on IRL For me, it only demonstrates that VR is an extension of the human experience, neither a cure nor a disease in and of itself.The good news is that there are still a lot of good things that go on in VR, too, not just bad things. I appreciate you bringing this into the discussion, Parzeval. Stay safe out there!🙂
The Pug hast a basement, was there a couple of times. One can unlock it somehow, You got a part of something down there, would need to check my old pc for screenshots though.
thats exactly how you end up depressed and completely miserable. every vrchat player you ask will tell you they’re depressed. dont go down that rabbit hole, play normally
I used to be good friends with the guy who made the fever dream world on tier 5 of the iceberg he was an awesome dude! haven't seen him in years though
14:30 yes, they have been some case like that. One day, I was drinking in Vr, without really knowing how much I was drinking. I realized that my Bottle of vodka was as empty 2h after opening it. But it was already too late. I passed out, my mom heard a « BAnG » as I falles on the ground. She ended up giving me CPR because of that and I ended up at the hospital. At the hospital I got so freaking confused that i jumped a fence and fled in a field. But that is a story for another day 🤣
24:22 this video was the reason I started researching vrchat. I heard about it being fake like 3-4 years later, but tbh that only makes it MORE interesting :)
Honestly, this was also still stuck with me back when I started playing VRChat again in 2022. I thought this Case was one of the most interesting but also disturbing thing.
I'm so sad that people are only making emo goth avatars that all look the same. I think they're ugly... I always have to take a game character i relate to because there are no good stylised avatars
Live death incidents in VRC isn't far from the truth. A well known person from a known club offed themselves while on Vr years back. That sort is real dark, and I wished it were just rumors.
Last I checked devouring is unplayable and broken mess of code that wasn't fixed since major update broke it few years ago, correct me if it works, not gonna waste few hours only to get stuck again like last time checking it! GREAT PUG MOON IS REAL, i have been playing some animations on its surface, all you need is any flying capable avatar you can find publicly in search world like prismic! I have visited and recorded the dire pug that once was accessed via great pug basement after solving its puzzle, pre-udon times! Owlboy wasnt fixing up the pugs puzzle, basement access, dire pug, macavity manor and few more puzzle maps part of the bigger collection, all puzzles ended with specific key-like object in lock box which at end of puzzle then they fit together as some kind of mechanism and screens of it had to be shown in discord server to end up as winner! fun fact about world prop abuse, back in early great pug days the bucket in middle of downstairs bar was spinning you rapidly if you step on it and also only other method to glitch through unused kitchen door or drop into basement! that bucket was providing hours of fun for trolling as putting it middle of common pathways just around corner was such fun to get people screaming in confusion!
@Parzeval @Arcvoid Yep! Tapping forwards on the analog stick in SDK2 worlds resets your Up/Down velocity- and you can actually glide pretty far depending on how much you feather the stick. This is fixed in any worlds that use the newer SDK.
Everyone needs to stop thinking this game is their personality and feel like its their life. The fact that people take age diffrence so litteral for an online experience that you will never remember or see half the people you meet in ever again. As long as they arent taking anything off the game to discord etc then no one can physically get "groomed" or "a case" its just pixels people think about it. Back then no one complained like they do now and its getting old just let everyone have fun and talk its a social game for crying out loud. The point is to talk not date so pedos shouldnt be seen as pedos unless they have taken it off the game. I can go on and on about people making the game their life and worse than it already is. If you agree leave a like if not let me hear why...
Just clarifying I understand the pedophile problem within the game, I'm strictly specifying people who throw around the word just for a social interaction with a minor ON GAME ONLY and even just trolling a minor in game which can't hurt or effect them physically.
Oh... garoshadowscale. That guy who makes the cult of the lamb and deltarune videos...crap had zero idea about his hystory and did not relize he was a childrapeist. Been supporting his shorts and now I feel sick
is it weird that i knew at least 90% of thease things on the entire pyramid yet i hardly trouch vrchat iv seen many docuymentrys on youtube heard storys from others and many of those are reasons i dont touch the platform EAC is one i dont like kernal level stuff on my pc the rippers are anouther and then the darker stuff also i even seen a documentry from i belive brandonfm that looks into how tupper and many of the lead developers of vrchat are groomers anmd they even had evdicane in the video so yea... all reasons i dont touch the platform there are others but id be here all day if i explaind them all
IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW (Highly recommend to read this!)
This Iceberg has been created by Reddit User u/The_Dream_Castle
Feel free to correct me & or add something to these topics, I might've summarized them too much and might've missed out a few things.
I really hope you enjoyed watching this Iceberg - This is something that I have planned to make for a few months now and it's finally out there. 😇
Credits & Corrections:
(Will add each of them this week as I am still studying IRL)
Footage used from (Credits):
@halfnhalf_madam (PoleDancing)
@TheVRCArchive ( RIpping / Laughing Coffin/ Prop Spam etc.)
@Sippbox (Gestures)
@LPD (LPD; Roleplay)
@Syrmor (Uganda Knuckles)
@NatGeo (Phantom Sense)
u/TheZiver (Great Pug Moon Controversy)
u/The_Dream_Castle (made Iceberg)
u/Saculu (Seizure Incident Clip)
Corrections (by TheVRCArchive & general Corrections):
1) Spam portals where a modded client not VRchat not removeing portals. 31:12
2) "laughing Coffin" are still around but not really on VRC, there are just a lot of fan boys. 25:40
3) there are no hired crashers. 30:58
4) Laughing avatar is not a thing (in this context atleast) and laughing coffin
never used the model, its the KohzieBoi base model by Kohzie lol. 31:25
5) crash groups are not a cult. 25:05
6) prop spam cant send people off the map, they just spam the view port. 30:45
7) I`m sure components have been damaged in the history of VRC but there is no true way to brick someones PC.
and raw custom scripts that are not udon C# are not possible to upload on VRC. 32:11
8) we are not bothered to even really address this one lol 37:56
9) logging clients where a log of the user using the client not other users. 33:42
10) Article that I mentioned was written by Ron Miller, not Tupper. 27:02
11) The Seizure Incident was recorded by rogueshadow though rebranded as AI Angel 24:30 and 34:50
i feel like its important to mention also vr physical and mental exercise communities like breakdancing, belly dancing, Just Dance, workouts, yoga, meditation, ..
maybe even things like escape rooms, puzzle worlds!
lots of things that help people stay healthy while using vr, find support networks, find community, and discover fun and active ways to use VR that isnt sitting or laying down 24/7
its an often overlooked subset of vrchat communities and events that i recommend to everybody who plays VRC, as it provides a “free” opportunity to exercise your body and mind for personal wellness and fitness, which often can be more accessible, affordable, entertaining, anonymous, and friendly relative to going to the gym or a workout class, without having to physically be present in the area, while still being “around” other people
for the largest avi is around 1.7 gb to 2.1 gb if i remember correctly(that i personally saw). i remember it was in the gb because it took a good portion of my data cap back then
I got something to add up :) The "The Truth" world is still accessable tho the video player is just blank now and doesnt play any gore videos anymore, it was made by Feroni in march 2020 and got updated in july 2020, where the videoplayer got blocked.
If needed, I have a copy/link to the document mentioned about "CoffeeBandit'". If you need to reach out to me, my socials are available
15:43 VRCMods is also known for hosting ripped models, lots of people are very against using that website to find avatars
Hey, I'm the creator of the iceberg. I'm Thankful that you covered my iceberg. I do want to clear up some misconceptions.
Liminal Spaces: This entry isn't specifically for worlds made to be liminal but for the feeling VRChat worlds can give off, especially in an empty server.
Climbing/Gliding: When VRChat was running 2.0 worlds, players could glide through the air by rapidly pressing any direction key/button. They could also climb walls by rapidly jumping and pressing against a wall.
Pug moon: In the old days of the Pug, the moon was an entire 3D object you could stand on (if you knew how to get up there.) The world creator changed the moon into a PNG in an update to save on space.
Therapy: This entry refers to people conducting therapy sessions within VRChat, from one-on-one sessions to group therapy. This form of therapy isn't reliable since the so-called therapists are usually not qualified or learn psychology through internet videos. VRChat can work as a tool for social anxiety, but it's better to actually go see a qualified therapist.
Pug basement: The Pug basement could only be accessed by doing an Easter egg within the world, similar to cod zombies.
Laughing avatar: There was an incident a few years back when a hacker manually changed other players' avatars into a crasher that would crash VRChat upon start-up. Players would either have to manually change their avatar through the VRChat site or use a shortcut command upon start-up of VRChat.
Portal Spam: Portals did always have timers though hackers could bypass this and have portals that stay on the server indefinitely.
Sponsored ERP Events: This refers to companies that produce.......certain products that allow......long distant interactions or.......enhance certain VR experiences. They would sometimes get themselves involved with larger ERP communities to promote their products. This might be fact, this might be bs, i'm not too sure.
Password stealing client: It's a client that would dig up pre-existing leaked information and showcase said information to the entire server. It's not really a password stealer.
Biggest Avatar: This refers to a now deleted VRChat world that housed an avatar that is so large that it makes the game unplayable unless the player manually changes their avatar through the website or use a shortcut command upon start up.
The Truth: Its a world that mainly showed creepy videos, not gore content. The world is still up but is broken due to TH-cam deleting some of the video content.
Ronnie McNutt avatar: An avatar that used to exist but thankfully is lost. It was an invisible avatar which play the audio clip of Ronnie's last words to everyone in the world before putting a shader on everyone's screens showing Ronnie K***ing himself followed by other gore content, harsh noise music and screaming.
ah I see the context of "Laughing avatar" now. There was a client called Green-Grey that would let somone swap your avatar into whatever avatar ID they wanted (often a avatar that would crash, yourself) this client also had ram lag, as well as the ability to change portal IDs and much, much more.
(correct us if we are wrong, we cant find the original video so its based of memory) I think there was a vid going around at the time, where someone is swapped into the default Robot with a smile and the kira laugh from death note would play and their game would crash
so that would make sense on why its called "Laughing avatar" 🤔🤔
Was Japan Shrine referring to the classic lost world by RootGentle that recently resurfaced? The predecessor to ITOAR's Japan Shrine (shown in this video).
17:01 Hii! I’m one of those vr sleepers. I sleep on vr because it can feel like camping! Or occasionally sleeping in a different place then my bedroom can soothe me when I’m not in a good place. It can also feel oddly grounding to sleep around other people, even strangers.
but how do you sleep with the headset on?
@@kiapandora2510 fellow vr sleeper here! once you get used to it, the headset really isnt that heavy, and if it does feel heavy, i like to put a pillow in front of my head to prop the headset up! the cushions on the headset are also comfortable, and feels like a sleep mask!
@@kiapandora2510esp with the higher end headsets, you don’t notice it as much after a few hours of playing and by the time you go to sleep you’re pretty tired
@@hjonk_goosie Thank you!
I dont condone this tho i can respect the camping perspective i think it is really unhealthy for human facial formation due to the heavyness and heat produced by the headset causing sweat and other heat related issues to your skin, etc. I always insist users remove their headsets before falling asleep just for reasons as such. I hope what I said may change your mind about sleeping in vr and possibly help you spread this info to others or look back on it yourself. @@hjonk_goosie
Something I would add is "Same Face Syndrome", where a head model becomes so popular that avatars start to look eerily similar. It's definitely made its way through the more realistic looking female avatars😅. This was a great video and I did learn some new things!
11:59 Am one of those peeps that met my S.O. in VRC. We ended up getting happily Married in October after visiting a few times and dating for nearly two years.
Same here! 10 months happy together. Love him so much and gonna see him around christmas. \o/
Same here. Met my girl in vrc about 3 and a half years ago back when we were still in highschool. Now we live together accomplishing our career goals and soon to be engaged. Haven’t been on vrc in about 2 ish years but we are thinking of getting a rig set up together to visit it again
@@cclydnyou could plan an anniversary by finding the original world you two met in and spending some time there.
RIP KMB (KittenMarchingBand) We used to do marches for charity by jumping lobbies, playing our music and doing a small kitten marching band, it used to be so fun
That sounds awesome!
Good ol days
@@jdiroh2645 it definitely used to be very fun, gave a nice safe space for kids to be around too since they would mainly be around more wholesome content meant for charity and having fun over anything.
I actually witnessed these guys roll through Diluc's Tavern earlier this year. Even took photos!
@artemuswithau glad to know they are doing well, I used to be an artist for them but I think after alot of issues and transfer of power back then I kinda moved on to other things
I love how you at least mentioned Resonite. Highly underrated VR game, but it's understandable. That's all I'll say.
That’s me!
Hello there! :3
Oh my glob
With regards to the great pug, the moon used to be a physical object in the world, much like a table or a chair. With a modded client, it was previously accessible for someone to click it and teleport to it, often leading to questions from others with nameplates on as to how they're over there, probably greatly popularizing modded clients.
The pug was eventually updated to where the moon is now just an image file.
your still able to go on top of the moon today it just looks like a image and i dont think its ever been a image i have flying colliders on my avatar an just tested it but i think originally there were 3 ways of going to the moon one being from modded clients, flying colliders, and a custom chair animation on a avatar.
@@albion4008 The way I got on it was with one of the < avatars with a seat and an extending gimmick. It was an image at one point (for like a month tops) which is why there was the "bring back the moon" campaign in the first place.
24:51 bro called it "crash monkeys" and its a what??? LMAO also thanks for using our thumbnails and stuff I guess,
good to know they are being put to use XD
You did a good job but maybe do a lil more research on some things next time.
You got a lot of other stuff right but You got a lot wrong in the vid in regards to LC and monkey stuff.
1) Spam portals where a modded client not VRchat not removeing portals. 31:12
2) "laughing Coffin" are still around but not really on VRC, there are just a lot of fan boys. 25:40
3) there are no hired crashers. 30:58
4) Laughing avatar is not a thing (in this context atleast) and laughing coffin
never used the model, its the KohzieBoi base model by Kohzie lol. 31:25
5) crash groups are not a cult. 25:05
6) prop spam cant send people off the map, they just spam the view port. 30:45
7) I`m sure components have been damaged in the history of VRC but there is no true way to brick someones PC.
and raw custom scripts that are not udon C# are not possible to upload on VRC. 32:11
8) we are not bothered to even really address this one lol 37:56
9) logging clients where a log of the user using the client not other users. 33:42
Anyway, no hate bro, just thought we would correct you on the stuff we know a lot about.
(edit: changed a time stamp)
Thank you for correcting some of the stuff! No genuinely! Pardon me for not crediting, this video was stuffed with footage and it was difficult for me to sort & credit each and every Image & Video.
@@Parzeval
ur fine, Dw abt it, we don’t mind having it used at all, it’s why we post it!
Just unexpected to see it used for this lol
Apologies for being such a 🤓 “uuhh actually” we just know a lot about this particular side of VRchat and wanted to set the record straight on the stuff we knew about.
Rest of the vid is great though. ❤️
@TheVRCArchive Ahh, no Problem! But still I should‘ve read more into this! Again thank you for correcting me there! 🫰🏻
@@TheVRCArchive Can I respectfully ask how you can confirm "There are no hired crashers"? Completely genuinely-- I just figured there'd be no way to confirm something like that? Or are you more saying "There's no organized group/specific known individuals you can hire."?
@@null7198 yeah np, like you said, There's no organized group/specific known individuals you can hire. I guess in VRC as a whole it may be plausible someone could pay users to be targeted. If there was, a group like this, they would be laughed at and no one would take serious.
in the nearly 5 years of our members being in 100s of groups like this, none of us have ever seen it, or even heard of it.
If it did ever happen it would of just been one individual, most likely a kid.
and useing that sort of logic u could say almost anything is on VRC.
AKA: there are no hired crasher groups.
the closest thing we have ever seen to it is hired bots. Even then no one bought into it.
Finally, thanks for adding subtitles. I really like your channel. You, Phia and Derafrog are the best VRChat TH-camrs. I love VRChat videos that aren't silly Sonic roleplays, but rather documentary essay videos.
You're welcome & Thank you so much for your support! ^^
@Parzeval you are welcome Thank you for the honor of noticing my comment and responding to me.
You used to be able to open the pug basement with doing secret motions like placing cups on certain cup holders years ago. idk if that's still a thing today, it was interesting I never learned it so I can't try I just remember ppl showing me and opening the basement.
also RougeShadow the one who faked the seizure is currently Ai Angel
it was part of the mr wiskers arg event that involved several different worlds. the part of it that took place in the pug had a portal appearing in the basement once you opened it. it took you to a distorted version of the pug. there also used to be a bucket at the bar, if you dropped it upside down infront of the door and stood on it you could clip in.
40 min parz post ?!? We are truly blessed
i would like to add the laughing coffin is also a play on SAO's player killing faction
To clarify about the 3D moon used in the Great Pug, users would go to it via playspace or other method like GoGo Loco (correct me if I'm wrong) and spend time over there. The 3D moon was then changed to a PNG which users retaliated and made an avatar animation supporting the return of the 3D moon. A few weeks later, it returned.
While there are mirror dwellers that do sit in front of a mirror and do nothing and talk to no one fore hours then log off, from my experience they're a small fraction of mirror dwellers.
In my experience, mirror dwellers are typically people that have a group of friends in VR and they mostly gather in front of mirrors and hangout and talk.
Mirror dwellers can also be people who have social anxiety and are more comfortable listening to the people around them instead of actively interacting.
Lastly, and this ties into the hanging out with friends aspect. By sitting in front of a mirror you can easily look at eachothers avatars while talking. Or maybe see flaws in your avatar that need worked on.
But I rarely meet mirror dwellers that want nothing to do with interacting. That makes mirror dwellers seem irrational and theres usually a sensible reason why mirror dwellers dwell.
we made it all the way to layer 5?
"largest avatar?" what? Someone i know of, Psychloor, uploaded the entirety of Kung Fury on an avatar with custom shaders to play the frames as spritsheets, it was just barely under 2GB. Watching Kung Fury in VR from an avatar was an amusing experience.
27:58 u can still go to the basement if u stand on a cup or late and u will glitch on the other side of door
I'm surprised Xignion and their shenanigans weren't brought up in the iceberg. As they did some shitty stuff in the end to then become a vtuber for some company.
Nice video btw I liked it 😊
absolutely loved this.i personally think you did a good job covering this
Yep and made me stop supporting Garushadowscales videos. I feel sick now, I have been watching his cult of the lamb and deltarune shorts. He is a child diddler...whollycrap..how many veiws did I give that wretched peice of garbage
20:45 holy shit. I used to be really good friends with the owner of VRChat Kmart and was active in the community for years. I left after making a small documentary about the store because he got a little weird and definitely had some boundary issues, but I never knew about these allegations until now. Hell of a way to find out. Makes me happy I left sooner rather than later.
I’m sad that OfficialSayon isn’t on the list he was well known up until he moved from VrChat to Chillout and back on VRChat for his horror maps 😔
Edit: I’ll put my 2 cents in and say this: Fever Dream or Mickey’s Fever Dream isn’t scary to me,it’s funny maybe it could be that I’ve never experienced a “fever dream” before but I never found that world remotely scary/disturbing 😅😅
not gonna lie, I checked out Fever Dream in VR and it just makes me feel eerie. I found it to be weird asf but this depends on a person I reckon haha
Today marks 1 year since I started playing Vrchat. It's had its ups and downs but it's truly a remarkable game.
30:18 u can still do this trick if u have a very old avatar
Listening to this while I optimize my models in Unity
Met my girl in vrc about 3 and a half years ago back when we were still in highschool. Now we live together accomplishing our career goals and soon to be engaged. Haven’t been on vrc in about 2 ish years but we are thinking of getting a rig set up together to visit it again.
The alcoholism in vrc is a real problem. I have heard the sound of a mother that lost her son through the mic of someone we thought was just passed out in a drinking night
Drinking is a problem
I feel like "gliding" might of been when you'd spam forward while falling you'd actually like glitch glide instead of falling. kinda like ud spawn some imaginary platform every first step you took or something, same happened with walls u could like rapid jump and walk into them to climb them. but of these aren't a thing anymore. I think there used to be a feature to add back the legacy movement when it first got removed though, idk if that's still a thing.
SDK2 avatars also have equally weird quirks- like for example animations such as death not looping.
Hover-walking! At least that's what I've come to know it as, it started to disappear with the UDON update to VRChat since the movement was different. You could still experience it in worlds that used the old SDK2
For the CoffeeBandit entry, there is a doc about him and the info isn’t lost. Read it myself and yeesh its really something :(
So the info wasn't lost? wait that's crazy. I gotta check this out
I tried accessing the document but it was taken down due to guideline violations.
@@DREAMCASTLEEE backups of the doc was made, knowing how Coffee false reports people
layer 5 "vrchat zoo" refers to going to public lobbies to look at the husks that sit infront of the mirror and other shenanagans... aka going to the zoo.
Layer 6 "sponsored erp events" refers to the company lovens sponsoring multiple events in vrchat the most recent one i can think of was one of the fishbowl collabs
and "biggest avatar size" is not 980mb the biggest avatar i have seen personaly as 1.9gigs.... didnt see the avatar itself tho cause it crashed my vrchat when it loaded
level 7 "ripper hunt" correction: ripperstore is still up.
also techgangster being at level 7 is a bit too deep. everyone and their mom knows about him...
also i suprised this needed this many layers... most/all of this is just commonly known knowlage.
I only just watched this video and haven't looked at his channel yet so please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't believe this person has interacted with the VRChat community a whole lot before making this video, but to be fair a lot of thos information, especially things like crasjers and crasher groups aren't really spread out online and is more word of mouth, y'know something you'd only hear from someone or encountering it for yourself. It's fair to say a person who knows nothing about it and did their best scraping for a lot lf info did good, but would've done it better if they had floated in the pool for a bit longer.
This Iceberg has not been created by me to clear things up.
@@Parzeval oh yea that i know, you said so in the video
Wow! So much to see and think about. I think you did a great job researching and presenting this, Parzeval. I have to admit, I knew a lot of things from the first three layers, but very little past that. Yes, there are a lot of things going on, but then I have lived long enough to know that there are a lot of things going on IRL For me, it only demonstrates that VR is an extension of the human experience, neither a cure nor a disease in and of itself.The good news is that there are still a lot of good things that go on in VR, too, not just bad things. I appreciate you bringing this into the discussion, Parzeval. Stay safe out there!🙂
i knew everything, well except the "child worlds"
The Pug hast a basement, was there a couple of times. One can unlock it somehow, You got a part of something down there, would need to check my old pc for screenshots though.
I’m saving up for a Quest3 and the Vive Ultimates and I swear on everything I will be ROTTING on vrc uVu
thats exactly how you end up depressed and completely miserable. every vrchat player you ask will tell you they’re depressed. dont go down that rabbit hole, play normally
@@emmygoescrazy Sooner of later, they'll be down it.. everyone collapses and falls through if enough time passes by.
@@emmygoescrazy brother buying a quest and trackers won’t make me depressed 💀
@@wolfgirl112an that’s what you call a hater 😂
@@wolfgirl112 “i will be rotting on vrchat” okay idiot!
I’m from the vr church services. I didn’t think we’d even get noticed in this video
I used to be good friends with the guy who made the fever dream world on tier 5 of the iceberg he was an awesome dude! haven't seen him in years though
14:30 yes, they have been some case like that. One day, I was drinking in Vr, without really knowing how much I was drinking. I realized that my Bottle of vodka was as empty 2h after opening it. But it was already too late. I passed out, my mom heard a « BAnG » as I falles on the ground. She ended up giving me CPR because of that and I ended up at the hospital. At the hospital I got so freaking confused that i jumped a fence and fled in a field. But that is a story for another day 🤣
24:22 this video was the reason I started researching vrchat. I heard about it being fake like 3-4 years later, but tbh that only makes it MORE interesting :)
Honestly, this was also still stuck with me back when I started playing VRChat again in 2022. I thought this Case was one of the most interesting but also disturbing thing.
@ me finding that vid is the intro to my phd ;)
will come out summer or fall this year!
crashing is still easy. most of my avatars got banned but several of them are still available and still indeed work.
i find it funny you pronounced popcorn palace wrong lol
@@ryeregular not a native english speaker 🫡
Ive been playing for a minute and even i didnt know about some of this shit. W video you gained a new sub.
I appreciate it man! 🙏🏻
MY GOAT MADE ANOTHER BANGER VIDEO
i know fever dream and been there severl times over the years, the name doesn't lie
With the dating thing. We and my partner plan to move in within the next few years. We met in vrc
This was an amazing video you should do more videos like this.
I'm so sad that people are only making emo goth avatars that all look the same. I think they're ugly... I always have to take a game character i relate to because there are no good stylised avatars
bruh, I've seen the Ronnie McNutt avatar 😭
Nice coverage of the iceberg
Live death incidents in VRC isn't far from the truth. A well known person from a known club offed themselves while on Vr years back. That sort is real dark, and I wished it were just rumors.
9:25 AND 16:35 LPD MENTIONED!!!!
Holy helll, fat video. I'm here for it. LFG Parz
Last I checked devouring is unplayable and broken mess of code that wasn't fixed since major update broke it few years ago, correct me if it works, not gonna waste few hours only to get stuck again like last time checking it!
GREAT PUG MOON IS REAL, i have been playing some animations on its surface, all you need is any flying capable avatar you can find publicly in search world like prismic! I have visited and recorded the dire pug that once was accessed via great pug basement after solving its puzzle, pre-udon times! Owlboy wasnt fixing up the pugs puzzle, basement access, dire pug, macavity manor and few more puzzle maps part of the bigger collection, all puzzles ended with specific key-like object in lock box which at end of puzzle then they fit together as some kind of mechanism and screens of it had to be shown in discord server to end up as winner!
fun fact about world prop abuse, back in early great pug days the bucket in middle of downstairs bar was spinning you rapidly if you step on it and also only other method to glitch through unused kitchen door or drop into basement! that bucket was providing hours of fun for trolling as putting it middle of common pathways just around corner was such fun to get people screaming in confusion!
What avatar is this at 1:19 ? Anything helps :)
this is all of vrchat summed up i think, i might have missed it but i didnt hear avatar hunters in there though
@Parzeval @Arcvoid
Yep! Tapping forwards on the analog stick in SDK2 worlds resets your Up/Down velocity- and you can actually glide pretty far depending on how much you feather the stick.
This is fixed in any worlds that use the newer SDK.
That Japanese name is, no joke, "Nnaaa".
i remember flying to the moon in great pug !
Everyone needs to stop thinking this game is their personality and feel like its their life. The fact that people take age diffrence so litteral for an online experience that you will never remember or see half the people you meet in ever again. As long as they arent taking anything off the game to discord etc then no one can physically get "groomed" or "a case" its just pixels people think about it. Back then no one complained like they do now and its getting old just let everyone have fun and talk its a social game for crying out loud. The point is to talk not date so pedos shouldnt be seen as pedos unless they have taken it off the game. I can go on and on about people making the game their life and worse than it already is. If you agree leave a like if not let me hear why...
Just clarifying I understand the pedophile problem within the game, I'm strictly specifying people who throw around the word just for a social interaction with a minor ON GAME ONLY and even just trolling a minor in game which can't hurt or effect them physically.
Please add subtitles even if it's automatic
Can do!
@Parzeval Thank you because I really like your channel, but English is not my native language, I'm still learning and I'm also Brazilian.
shit, an interesting video. im gonna binge this entire video.
Goood job . Thank yoooo for video ❤
Amazing video
Leader of Laughing Coffin here, good work on your video!
Neoworlds mentioned 😳
The most underrated world! Widget you did and still do such a great job with NeoWorlds! 🌟
18:58 that's me hahah 😅
Miss u bb
@eberstark I miss all the VR fam too bro 💕
24:30 and 34:50 was recorded by a youtber who went by rogueshadow and has since removed every existing video and rebranded to "AI Angel"
That's new to me. Will correct it!
1 year ago i have it an avatar of 1gb, and i see it some more xD
I honestly NEVER have seen any avatar bigger than 600-700MB. 1GB is mad crazy LOL
Very good video :D
i have a video of myself on the pug moon
Oh... garoshadowscale. That guy who makes the cult of the lamb and deltarune videos...crap had zero idea about his hystory and did not relize he was a childrapeist. Been supporting his shorts and now I feel sick
25:40
Did they really just copied an anime villain group 1:1?
good video
Nice vid
is it weird that i knew at least 90% of thease things on the entire pyramid yet i hardly trouch vrchat iv seen many docuymentrys on youtube heard storys from others and many of those are reasons i dont touch the platform EAC is one i dont like kernal level stuff on my pc the rippers are anouther and then the darker stuff also i even seen a documentry from i belive brandonfm that looks into how tupper and many of the lead developers of vrchat are groomers anmd they even had evdicane in the video so yea... all reasons i dont touch the platform there are others but id be here all day if i explaind them all
Nice
Error world is not rare for me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
to most of the VRChat Community it is 🫡
@Parzeval XD
banger video
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