@@EddieJazzFan Er No he just didn't do it properly. Just so you know where I'm coming from. I'm not criticising just letting you know what's going on. I am an audio engineer of getting on for 45 years. I too would be interested to see the how well it is calibrated after having owned two TD124s in my time.and in those 45 years have never seen an arm a gram out..And that would literally be thousands of tonearms. You need to take a little bit of care.
Wow, I didn’t know they made new TD124’s. I wonder how my Goldring Lenco GL75 compares? Nice setup video, beautiful turntable. Thanks for the setup video.
Great video! Love my original TD-124. I would think that balancing the tonearm before attaching the anti-skate would make balancing easier, and maybe more accurate. They should have included 78 rpm.
I’d be curious to know what cartridge you are using. Four grams for the tracking weight seems a little high. Thanks for going over all of the details on the video. The first few seconds of Take Five sounded heavenly.
@@trevor245 The one he used is Ortofon SPU#1E. The optional one with Thorens is much higher end one, a modified SPU Synergy G with lower tracking force and easier handling by phono.
At 3:16, "rebates"? Here in the States, a "rebate" means that you get money back, like a sort of coupon for a refund, when or after you purchase the unit. At this price, I certainly hope so!
It means the same in the UK, but it also means a cutout or a notch in the surface of something. I have no idea of the etymology so I don't know if the two meanings are related.
@@rogerking7258 , here we would say "recess" or " notch" or " indent". Recess has another meaning, however, it's when kids in school get a break from the classroom to go outside and play.
Cool video and beautiful turntable!!! Wonderful system too as far as I can see... Did you try any other cartridges than the SPU 124? What would be your best fit in terms of head-shells and cartridges in case you have spent some time investigating other combinations?
3.5-4.0 grams? What are you using for a Cartridge? In the last twenty years, all of my cartridges have a downforce of 1.4 to 2.0. The only cartridge with heavy downforce is the conical tip??
If Thornes wants to re-release a classic..It should be the 125-Mk II. I recently re-built mine. Works better than ever. At least with the 125 your not stuck with that built-in "budget" tonearm. 4 grams...Yikes !
Nice, good to see they are going forward by going direct drive! 👍 Btw, that tonearm looks suspiciously much like an old EMT tonearm, those were really good! What's the rumble specification of this turntable?
This is a nice turntable but it’s a completely redesigned direct drive. It has almost nothing in common with the original TD 124 which is a belt/idler drive.
I saw this and thought it would be fun to own one - cool retro look. The brand name concerned me because I thought that might mean it costs over $500 (I used to sell hi-fi and consider Thorens stuff to be good, but over priced somewhat). I just looked up the price. Yeah, I won't be owning one of these. This one is in the "rich man's toy" price range ($11,500). Maybe Audio Technica could make a clone, and they could get Crosley to design the look. :D
Where's the lid? Ten grand and it doesn't have a lid? And why would I need an instructional video about setting it up? For ten grand I'd expect someone from Thorens to come round and set it up personally. And bring me a lid!
I don't understand this. It's just a pastiche of a (great) original, but it's direct drive, doesn't have 78rpm and costs a fortune which would almost certainly buy superior performance. It seems to be all about the looks and a huge mark up; a bit like lots of Leica's cameras.
0.04% wow&flutter. This is extremely poor for over $10,000 direct drive turntable. Better than td 402&403 dd's 0.15%, but still worse than Technics' cheapest model's 0.025%.
Although i respect this brand but for this price you can buy something wayy better and better good looking in half price than this ungly thing . Technics SL-1200G for example
@@joebloggs8636 How about you expand on that comment. What makes this so special over the Technics (besides, perhaps, its looks)?This is basically a repro, whose cosmetic design comes close (but certainly doesn't duplicate) the original. The internals are completely different from the original.
Direct drive is the only improvement here. Otherwise, this is a sorry, unworthy successor to the original 124. You are stuck with their choice of tonearm. No 78 rpm speed and no dust cover available. And for the ridiculous high price, not even made in Europe. What a joke. The opportunity for greatness was lost here.☹
Way over priced, say's he who owns a £50K TT, but at least mine is not a re run of a classic that never was anywhere near this, price adjusted, in the past. A Garrard 401 from Artisan would make this look very humble and it's a better TT
Super groovy! Enjoy!. Love the yellow prism strobe! Easy to determin speed drift! Thank you so much!
I'm always amazed at spending tons of money on great stereo equipment then putting the turn table right next to the speakers..
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for doing this.
Old School turntable set up! Beautiful revival of a great classic.........but $14,000 is sadly way above my pay grade. Good video Shaun.
buy original, its cheaper and its better
@@ЕМТФранц i have an origiinal, i do not know if its "better' but i love it.
A dream machine indeed.
I was bit surprised that the VTF scale on the arm was not accurately calibrated.
I think that was more user related...If you want to do it properly remove anti-skate at least.
@@martinda7446 So the anti skate caused it to be almost a whole gram off?
@@EddieJazzFan Er No he just didn't do it properly. Just so you know where I'm coming from. I'm not criticising just letting you know what's going on. I am an audio engineer of getting on for 45 years. I too would be interested to see the how well it is calibrated after having owned two TD124s in my time.and in those 45 years have never seen an arm a gram out..And that would literally be thousands of tonearms.
You need to take a little bit of care.
only a Brit knows how to do a good presentation on turntables like this...well done
Beautiful, love the head shell.
the Arm looks very similar to the famous EMT 929 arm
Wow, nice deck. 4 grams of tracking force does seem very high.
Yes indeed, its destroys the grooves, and your cardridge
Wow, I didn’t know they made new TD124’s. I wonder how my Goldring Lenco GL75 compares? Nice setup video, beautiful turntable. Thanks for the setup video.
Your gl75 is closer to the original TD124. This new TD124DD is direct drive. Good sound but I like the original better.
Great video! Love my original TD-124. I would think that balancing the tonearm before attaching the anti-skate would make balancing easier, and maybe more accurate. They should have included 78 rpm.
That's correct, suppose to balance tonearm before anti-skate
Great demo mate!
MARVELOUS SET
Pretty turntable! Thanks for the video!
It is, its destroys the grooves
Definitely an SL-1200 motor unit there.
Nah, the modern SL-1200 motors are axial.
Only the old 1200s have those type of radial motors.
@@QoraxAudio Yes, an original SL-1200 motor unit, as I stated.
Looks more like the motor unit used in many of the so-called "Super OEM" turntables. Nothing wrong with that though :)
Much gratitude for providing this unboxing, Shaun, but doesn't this table come with a wooden box framed with metal bars?
this is a pretty good record player system !
beautiful table
Can you not use the cueing device at all? Meaning manually lift, move the tonearm back into position and vice versa?
007.......Great serial # mate!
When adjusting the tracking force, best move the counterweight and not the spring mech…
I’d be curious to know what cartridge you are using. Four grams for the tracking weight seems a little high. Thanks for going over all of the details on the video. The first few seconds of Take Five sounded heavenly.
pretty sure it's just the included spu
@@trevor245 The one he used is Ortofon SPU#1E. The optional one with Thorens is much higher end one, a modified SPU Synergy G with lower tracking force and easier handling by phono.
Perfect detailed presentation. I can see a lot of Sugden amps. I own a basic Sugden SE. What do you think would be a good upgrade from that.
At 3:16, "rebates"? Here in the States, a "rebate" means that you get money back, like a sort of coupon for a refund, when or after you purchase the unit. At this price, I certainly hope so!
It means the same in the UK, but it also means a cutout or a notch in the surface of something. I have no idea of the etymology so I don't know if the two meanings are related.
@@rogerking7258 , here we would say "recess" or " notch" or " indent". Recess has another meaning, however, it's when kids in school get a break from the classroom to go outside and play.
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So many wonderful turntables, so little money Dam😕
Cool video and beautiful turntable!!! Wonderful system too as far as I can see... Did you try any other cartridges than the SPU 124? What would be your best fit in terms of head-shells and cartridges in case you have spent some time investigating other combinations?
He was using the budget SPU #1E not SPU 124.
I use Goldring Ethos with 124DD and seems to work very well with it.
This is the first time I have heard about this TT. I am assuming that DD means direct drive....
Yes, to distinguish it from the original which was idler drive
Thank heavens for CD's.
Nice review thx
3.5-4.0 grams? What are you using for a Cartridge? In the last twenty years, all of my cartridges have a downforce of 1.4 to 2.0. The only cartridge with heavy downforce is the conical tip??
SPU which uses heavy tracking
Damn. 4 grams sounds pretty heavy. Lovely table though. I have a late serial Mark I that sounds fantastic.
Where available ? I am interested to buy.
For the price they should send someone to your home to set it up. 😁
Bubble Level to check azimuth! Brilliant.
What direct drive motor does this use? Technics? or one of the Chinese OEM's?
I hope they made it themselves since Thorens (Switzerland) invented the direct drive..
From what I believe the turntable is made in Taiwan so make of that what you will
@@rickg8015 No, Technics was the first company in 1969 (SP-10)
Where can i buy
She’s pretty 😍🤩 congrats!
If Thornes wants to re-release a classic..It should be the 125-Mk II. I recently re-built mine. Works better than ever. At least with the 125 your not stuck with that built-in "budget" tonearm. 4 grams...Yikes !
I have the TD-125 LB and it’s marvelous! That would probably the last thing I upgrade in my system
Nice, good to see they are going forward by going direct drive! 👍
Btw, that tonearm looks suspiciously much like an old EMT tonearm, those were really good!
What's the rumble specification of this turntable?
4 gram tracking? Wow, that is pretty high.
That's what I thought. About what they were in 1957.
LPS stay beyond Digital era
Is this really worth $12k more than a clean original TD124?
7800€... that's... a bit overpriced imo. Even though it is a really nice tt.
Insane!
more videos！
but use a proper camera please.....
🌷🌷🌷🌷👌❤
This is a nice turntable but it’s a completely redesigned direct drive. It has almost nothing in common with the original TD 124 which is a belt/idler drive.
I wish I could afford it. Way out of my price range for a turntable.
Nope I’m getting that turntable before I am dead
this is never not going to make me laugh how companies will take tell for all they are worth.
😍😍😍😍
Could by a decent second hand car for the price of this.
I saw this and thought it would be fun to own one - cool retro look. The brand name concerned me because I thought that might mean it costs over $500 (I used to sell hi-fi and consider Thorens stuff to be good, but over priced somewhat). I just looked up the price. Yeah, I won't be owning one of these.
This one is in the "rich man's toy" price range ($11,500). Maybe Audio Technica could make a clone, and they could get Crosley to design the look. :D
No justification for such an exhorbant price for a turntable.
Is it user friendly ?
Very.
A direct-drive 124 is like a Porche 911 without an air-cooled engine. But just like the new Porches it sure looks pretty and pretty over-priced, too!
Pity it has absolutely nothing in common with the TD124 , sales hype for a completely different turntable
$15k for a turntable?
No it’s 10,000
Where's the lid? Ten grand and it doesn't have a lid? And why would I need an instructional video about setting it up? For ten grand I'd expect someone from Thorens to come round and set it up personally. And bring me a lid!
I don't understand this. It's just a pastiche of a (great) original, but it's direct drive, doesn't have 78rpm and costs a fortune which would almost certainly buy superior performance. It seems to be all about the looks and a huge mark up; a bit like lots of Leica's cameras.
Same motors of The old Technics 🤷🏻♂️
Thorens oder ......
Was ist denn besser?
The drawback is, it is direct drive and not like the original was.
Nothing wrong with DD.
@@bkkersey93 No, I like them too, but this is not an idler driven, like the original was, so it is not fully original, is it?
Way to much trouble to assemble
A lot of snake oil on this demonstration.
Could you please cite some examples? I am genuinely curious.
i'm not seeing the snake oil , this is a really
straight forward TT with very useful adjustments. get a cd player this too complicated for you
Nice - but ridiculously overpriced.
0.04% wow&flutter. This is extremely poor for over $10,000 direct drive turntable. Better than td 402&403 dd's 0.15%, but still worse than Technics' cheapest model's 0.025%.
I'll stick to CDs!!!
No doubt the quality of this tt is high, but the design is uninspiring.
Although i respect this brand but for this price you can buy something wayy better and better good looking in half price than this ungly thing .
Technics SL-1200G for example
I can see you have ZERO idea about turntables,ty for your time.
@@joebloggs8636 How about you expand on that comment. What makes this so special over the Technics (besides, perhaps, its looks)?This is basically a repro, whose cosmetic design comes close (but certainly doesn't duplicate) the original. The internals are completely different from the original.
It's the Technics which is a minger. If I had this sort of money, I would buy the Thorens over the Technics for the looks alone.
Me too ,'joe'. I know nuthin.. It's butt ugly. Some things don't need homages, eg anything that looks like bakelite...
It's not ungly.
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Direct drive is the only improvement here. Otherwise, this is a sorry, unworthy successor to the original 124.
You are stuck with their choice of tonearm. No 78 rpm speed and no dust cover available. And for the
ridiculous high price, not even made in Europe. What a joke. The opportunity for greatness was lost here.☹
Way over priced, say's he who owns a £50K TT, but at least mine is not a re run of a classic that never was anywhere near this, price adjusted, in the past. A Garrard 401 from Artisan would make this look very humble and it's a better TT
Gerrard 401 better ? I doubt it. That’s an old vintage turntable this is a brand new table
Are you talking about an Audi TT?
A bit too much waffle .......
Just a shame you're playing a digitally remastered vinyl. Sort of misses the point really!
No it actually doesn't.
It's T-horens not Th-orens!
Nice way to ruin your records!4 grams is a record killer!!2,5 is max max
better the old 124 pulley. this dd is not worth the money it costs