Signals & Signalmen - Part 1 'In The Beginning'

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  • For those of you who have ever wondered what actually happens in the signal boxes and signalling centres around the county. You may have heard of 'Pride & Prejudice', 'Sense & Sensibility' but now something very different!
    'Signal & Signalmen' looks at the technology and people that every day prevent trains colliding in spectacular fashion! Going from the early days of a stopwatch, flag and the hope that a driver won't crash into the train in front (which sometimes worked), to the modern systems in use right now on the national network.
    Part one looks at the early days and how they tried to prevent "stupid" mistakes which caused many accidents.
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  • @Capt_Sam_J
    @Capt_Sam_J ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best, most indepth explination that I've found. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @Lisbonized
    @Lisbonized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve been a signalman on the Underground for 34 years and still find the history of signalling fascinating. I was always taught that signalling systems are evolutionary not revolutionary and improvements are always made after an accident! Ie Moorgate control was brought in because of the Moorgate crash.

    • @madyottoyotto3055
      @madyottoyotto3055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm looking for information about DINGER LINES (single lines that used bells as signals)
      Not like on this video
      But they would ride past and use a long pole to actually ding the bell
      There is an extinct line near me that was called locally the singer line it was run and operated by ICI for running soda ash around
      I am in a serious hunt for information about this type of signaling
      If you happen to find anything please try to remember my comment and respond for me
      Super interesting if I can find information

  • @carlzwanzig5372
    @carlzwanzig5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video. I spent a happy afternoon standing in the doorways, with permission, of the Ropley and Medstead cabins watching the action when there were two trains on the line.

  • @TreniFS_
    @TreniFS_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not only this was really interesting, but also incredibly well made. Can't wait to see the next part!

  • @carlarthur4442
    @carlarthur4442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done from a retired Signalman .

  • @reglementme6321
    @reglementme6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a head Stationmaster, now called safetycontroller/trafficregulator, this is a nice channel to follow. Explanationary correct an ‘fun’ to watch. Much has been modernized but still the goal is a safe and swift travel. Keep up the well enjoyed channel.

  • @alfiemunday8215
    @alfiemunday8215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the watercress line and days out with Thomas xxxxxxxx

  • @DomWhibley
    @DomWhibley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant video as always. 4:33 Always good to say my favourite shunter back in action. I'll be dow at the line on Sunday and look forward to finally coming back after 4 months :)

    • @owenslanejunction7544
      @owenslanejunction7544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i totally agree now then can work on the other shunter that is stored

    • @DomWhibley
      @DomWhibley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@owenslanejunction7544 I believe that once 08288 is out repainted, and the last repairs are done, 08377 is going in for a bit of work and TLC as she's looking a bit tired. 08032 is slowly being worked on and hopefully it won't be too long before we see her back.

    • @owenslanejunction7544
      @owenslanejunction7544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DomWhibley yes thx

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well explained , and a gorgeous piece of heritage railway 🚂 . I used to regularly have s nose around from the Alton end and back .

  • @suchcone
    @suchcone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed this, good presenting style!

  • @toddavis8603
    @toddavis8603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The staff or baton system is called absolute block here in the States.I'm a retired Signalman from NYCT 1991-2016.

    • @madyottoyotto3055
      @madyottoyotto3055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm after information about a signal system used way back for single lines
      Known locally at least as DINGER lines
      They used bells but not to a signal box etc
      The bell was located at the top of a concrete pole similar to a telegraph pole.
      Train would ride past and use a pole to ding the bell
      Very loud
      One that still remained twenty odd years ago we used to shoot at made a very loud ding indeed
      I can't information about this system anywhere
      Please tell me you used this system in the USA and have another name I didn't search for or something close
      If your aware of anything like this please point me in the right direction

  • @dieseldavetrains8988
    @dieseldavetrains8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well narrated and explained, Australia had/has a similar colour coded lever system, ideally, imported from the British in the steam era. Very enjoyable and informative 12 minutes.

  • @abrr2000
    @abrr2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ended up taking notes as I watched this video. I've been trying to work out some of these things for years.

  • @jackx4311
    @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, and very clearly explained - many thanks!!

  • @steveroperfilms
    @steveroperfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great story telling and history. Cheers.

  • @paulthomas7268
    @paulthomas7268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant and instructive video and Jim is such a talented signaller.

  • @scottpannell2286
    @scottpannell2286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve always had this fantasy that I’d be a signalman in a little box somewhere, in solitude, with a great view of the trains, and a nice mug of tea, with the radio on. Unfortunately a couple of generations too late to live out this fantasy!

  • @Del-bm
    @Del-bm ปีที่แล้ว

    Very educational, thanks for teaching us

  • @bwilesuk
    @bwilesuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually a really insightful video! Thank you!

  • @wagwan6248
    @wagwan6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well made informative and entertaining video. 👍🏽

  • @KarlAndDebbieTrains
    @KarlAndDebbieTrains 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was very interesting, thank you

  • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
    @jean-pierredeclemy7032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did the TH-cam algorithm know I am currently reading John Richardson's book "Over the Alps" which goes into detail about the single track sections and signalling on this very railway line?

  • @Palkia792
    @Palkia792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant info.
    Side note: I'm watching Steam train Britain and I'm seeing this man on the Ffestiniog railway as a guard. ^_^

  • @Luigi-uj5ml
    @Luigi-uj5ml ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Does anyone know whether issuing staffs, tokens or tablets security devices have been used in continental Europe to manage single track lines? As far as I know, they were never tested here in Italy, not even at the time of private railway networks. Thank you very much for your availability and collaboration

    • @madyottoyotto3055
      @madyottoyotto3055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They would have had something similar
      Lots of these systems are very hard to find information about
      In the UK there was a less used system
      Locally we called it the dinger line
      It used bells as the warning system and didn't use switch boxes except for main line connections
      But the train would drive down the track hitting all of the bells at the top of telegraph poles which was loud if you heard a bell you didn't ring you stopped and reversed fast lol
      These was normally for cargo only when lines might have been owned by one company etc
      Information on this system can't be found and the ONLY REASON I know it existed is because I live local and even used to shoot at the bell that was then twenty years ago the only one remaining

  • @kirkwitney2919
    @kirkwitney2919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video

  • @ukeyaoitrash2618
    @ukeyaoitrash2618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:47 ... I was searching for an "analyze" button. I can't be the only one right ? XD
    Great and interesting video though!

  • @terrybailey2769
    @terrybailey2769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, well explained. The blooper at the end should have been kept in as it demonstrated part of interlocking.

  • @mrwizzardknight
    @mrwizzardknight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey look! Thomas can be seen at 4:33! 😃

  • @madyottoyotto3055
    @madyottoyotto3055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PLEASE HELP
    i am after information about the very old
    As i know them
    Dinger lines
    These was always a single line
    With large bells on poles high up for audibility
    The train would ride past and hit the bell with a large pole
    The very line local to me has always been known as the dinger line for the sound of the warning system
    Information on these type of lines is almost impossible to coe across
    The line in question exactly is the line that connected the soda ash limebeds in winnington to the mainline somewhere behind weaverham highschool.
    The ici site also connected to the main line through winnington and onto the main line between Hartford and Northwich
    Its not this exact line im looking for information on but what a bonus that would be
    Can anyone here shed some light pleae
    As far as i am aware it only carried chemicals and product for one company and so signal boxes etc was not needed except it's mainline connections

  • @paulshirley6383
    @paulshirley6383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mid Hants Railway 'The Watercress Line' 'In The Beginning' LOVE LOUIS SHIRLRY

  • @MinnieHekebolos
    @MinnieHekebolos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:48 ayo why my boy thomas in the background?

  • @paj792
    @paj792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    click analyze

  • @cinema104
    @cinema104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that when railroads were developed they only ran on one track, hence the siding.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      No - well, not in Britain, at any rate. The earliest railways, like the Liverpool & Manchester, were double track. Single track lines only came in later, when branch lines (US - 'short lines') were built which only had to carry much less traffic.
      HTH

  • @DK-nv9zu
    @DK-nv9zu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they always use a rag when pulling those levers? This video isn’t the first time I’ve seen that.

    • @johnstudd4245
      @johnstudd4245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That has been a tradition for a long time. They want to keep those handles bright and shiny, and not let the oils and perspiration from your hands cause them to rust or discolor.

  • @jerribee1
    @jerribee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish someone would make a video about early signals instead of jumping straight from flags to modern(ish) signalboxes.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a problem with that; as far as I know, there aren't any of those early signals left, so the only way of doing it would be to make an animated film.

  • @rogermarsh9806
    @rogermarsh9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The staff will not stop accidents, but it will show who was was at fault when there is one. Think of Abermule and others.

  • @JamesSmith-mv9fp
    @JamesSmith-mv9fp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With Mechanical signalling in mechanical signalling days, electrical track circuits were NOT available. So mechanical "Treadles" were positioned at critical positions to detect the presence of a trains wheels mechanically ! Obviously as this is a modern programme taken on the Mid Hants Railway, they are using track circuits as a cheaper simpler and more reliable method of detecting trains than expensive treadles.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep - and, if he could have made the video in a dozen chapters, each about 12 hours long, he could have gone through all the intermediate phases of development. But these videos are *an introduction to the basics* - not an exhaustive and comprehensive history.

  • @michaelphilpot1912
    @michaelphilpot1912 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every signal 🚦 box was different. There's
    Like line control unit when train gets to curtain point sets alam of I found frame strange part levers stands out instrument Tyler 3 position getting to know your area some bell 🚥 signals not my block book issue 1960 show north and south west

  • @heavenlynferno9763
    @heavenlynferno9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im signalman from argentina

  • @anuragb.9349
    @anuragb.9349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Signal Box lever colour codes:
    1. Red - For "lowering" the semaphore signal.
    2. Black - For setting point (US: switch) from "normal" to "reverse".
    3. Blue - For setting the lock on the point set.
    4. White - Spare/Unused lever.

  • @PenzancePete
    @PenzancePete 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Signalman". Oooh, now you're in trouble.

    • @kirkwitney2919
      @kirkwitney2919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were signalmen then :)

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      In trouble? You mean from those tantrum-throwing screechy toddlers who call themselves 'woke activists'? Oooh, I'm weally, weally scared . . .
      I call myself a *signalman* and I don't give a monkey's who I offend.

  • @Oliverhamblin
    @Oliverhamblin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi

  • @michaelphilpot1912
    @michaelphilpot1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was not by flag one policeman used trunchen

    • @michaelphilpot1912
      @michaelphilpot1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I pushed wrong button. 2nd Wasa plate with steel sheet operation by lever at bottom then come symphore signal earl 1800s a man did walk in front of the train

    • @michaelphilpot1912
      @michaelphilpot1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As Train pass over section the small power under the train sends signal back to the signal box shows train on line either on clock shape show line clear or occupied or by light on tack diagram
      Er

  • @Micke120872
    @Micke120872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    shame about the breach of safety processes at 0.12, you never walk in the 4 foot unless there is no cess, and as that looks like a two-way running lines, he should not be just looking forward but also behind. The biggest error there is not using the cess.

    • @underwaterdick
      @underwaterdick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although it is bad practice, this is a heritage railway and he probably knew there was no running.
      He may have even have had a block on both running lines.
      Which would mean walking in the 4 foot is acceptable.
      I always find the 4 foot a very uncomfortable place to be, even with a line block on.

  • @rvgopal
    @rvgopal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know little but I know that BR is far behind our IR, in terms of technology and development.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      FYI, British Railways no longer exists; it was all privatised decades ago. Secondly, if you know so little, who are YOU to to pass judgement on the railway technology in another country?

  • @TheDontwatchthat
    @TheDontwatchthat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are all signalman white ?? I’ve been applying for this position and made it as far as interview but never further, thought it had something to do with my skin colour 🤔

    • @iknowyoureright8564
      @iknowyoureright8564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the reason is, your interview didn’t go well enough. There are certain red flags they look for during interviews and if you’ve said any of them you will be automatically counted out for the job, nothing to do with skin colour and you would be better not to presume that in future, doesn’t lead to a happy life.

    • @Vat6ré
      @Vat6ré ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iknowyoureright8564 what are any red flags in your opinion?

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a weird way to refer to a signaller.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you rather I called myself a 'signalperson', to avoid upsetting the Gender Gestapo? Or maybe a 'signalmover of non-defined species', to fit in with the lunacy of those who 'self-identify' as anything but what they are, and DEMAND that the rest of us go along with their delusions?
      GROW UP!!