Is it Possible for Double Jungle to work in low ELO?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2023
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  • @Tilterella
    @Tilterella  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

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  • @icze88
    @icze88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    "I lost 50 bucks today" im laughing so hard my face is spazming, tilt

  • @scottgill2643
    @scottgill2643 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Finally, you put out the word to say "Name a champion to double jungle with". We finally get to theorycraft what champions could do a double jungle strategy.
    First question to ask is "What makes Sion particularly special?" and it's his passive. A lot of Sion's outplays involve him dying, which is hard to replicate. If other champions try it, they must achieve their goal before dying.
    Second, we have to ask about the requirements that make a jungler particularly strong as the double.
    Probably the most important requirement in this role is aggression. If you can't bully your way into other camps, you're forced to play evasively, which is too inefficient. Warwick might live through that requirement, but Yi would struggle.
    The double jungle will NEVER have a leash, meaning that they must take an easy camp efficiently to get level 2. This almost completely excludes cheese jungles like Twitch and Ezreal. Nidalee will also struggle. Nunu Might be able to hack it, which would certainly get him into the limelight.
    Finally, the double jungler has to be able to work safely. Sion's special in that he bypasses this requirement, but other champions can't just be stuck inting. Talon is probably the best champion to fit this requirement, but Kha'zix, Zed, Neeko, and Sejuani are all examples of champions with some way of fulfilling this requirement.
    So, for the first batch of champions I would put through the grinder for this strategy, it would be: Warwick, Nunu, Talon, Kha'zix, Zed, Neeko, Sejuani.

    • @leucamaclean8900
      @leucamaclean8900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Champions you missed: shaco, ivern, Gragas, karthus, nidalee

    • @scottgill2643
      @scottgill2643 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@leucamaclean8900 Shaco will probably struggle (requirement #1). Nidalee will struggle (requirement #2). Ivern will struggle (requirement #1 and 3).
      Gragas might work, Karthus might work (if he can bypass Requirement #3)

    • @peterbillings3276
      @peterbillings3276 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds like a good analysis to me :)

    • @fonariuz141
      @fonariuz141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@leucamaclean8900 ivern may work, but very passive. since you can only really 'steal' a camp if you have smite up. so it would be more of an support item who sometimes runs into jungle to take scuttle/enemy red/blue depending in the side hes on

    • @leucamaclean8900
      @leucamaclean8900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@scottgill2643 shaco makes up for requirement one by having fast clear and superior mobility, outplays can include just not dying’ I think your requirements are better as guidelines.

  • @wallproduction
    @wallproduction 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    Briar seems like a very strong pick for the double jungle, if you can manage the w berserk properly to either kill enemy jungler or to take a camp very fast when not contested. Probably reliant on lvl 2 for the E back up

    • @user-xw5zy5wl8u
      @user-xw5zy5wl8u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      i think if you pick her in place of a support (like Tilterella does with Sion), you lose too much in utility
      Sion with his cc and some farm for your hp you can still be useful when behind
      briar has... 0.85 sec single-target stun and a knock up after 1 sec charge time
      also pretty squishy
      seems... rather bad
      maybe you can make it work, but i can't see it being reliable

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-xw5zy5wl8u its not even a knockup, its a knock back

    • @comradesusiwolf1599
      @comradesusiwolf1599 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when briar gets buffed it'll be meta

  • @Glacyate
    @Glacyate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I am currently sitting through a 2 week ban for going negative in a single game with this strat even though I still have a 70% wr with it. TY RITO

    • @rya3
      @rya3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      deserved

  • @brianrankin5876
    @brianrankin5876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    You could make anything work in brozne of your diamond+ rank

    • @bobjunior3199
      @bobjunior3199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yeah and he also makes it work in challenger. what's your point?

    • @jeremy8223
      @jeremy8223 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@bobjunior3199 his point is you can make anything work in bronze lmao

    • @geewoods6590
      @geewoods6590 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      except this, obvs

    • @bobjunior3199
      @bobjunior3199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jeremy8223 the whole double jungler strat is reliant on your teammates not tilting out of their minds, leaving the game or feeding their asses off. It's actually quite likely this might not work as well in bronze.
      I just don't like it when people revere diamond+ players as though they have some inherent godlike ability to always win games.
      Tilterella literally lost the first game he played doing this strat. I'm just saying, the whole point of the video is to see if the strat is even viable at this rank because of your teammates' skill level and mental

  • @ForsakenSanityGaming
    @ForsakenSanityGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    "With enough pings you can make them do anything"
    As someone who recently started playing in bronze/silver again, this is true.

  • @dharma4248
    @dharma4248 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love Shaco support already, and his various ways of escaping and setting up make him seem really viable for this strategy. I'd love to see you try Shaco second jg.

  • @cyrene03
    @cyrene03 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it's so nice to see how chill the coach was

  • @Silphanis
    @Silphanis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to see you try with Poppy. I love her early cheeses, and I think she might be good. Level 1 is worse than Sion, but level 2 should be really strong with E, Q, and passive

  • @Trostspender
    @Trostspender 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I saw the Ghost into Q charge-up I knew I was in for a good time

  • @Kalaggu2020
    @Kalaggu2020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PLEASE TRY WITH OTHER CHAMPIONS!! I myself theory crafted that zac, rammus, shen, (maybe) rek'sai and (maybe) warwick could work, tried all of them, liked zac and warwick the best. And I want to try with udyr, maybe good? idk

  • @bizw
    @bizw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You gotta use the need vision ping when invade lv 1

    • @Tilterella
      @Tilterella  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      all the pings are bugged in league atm.

  • @Fine_Mouche
    @Fine_Mouche 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in reverse can "no jungle " can work in low elo ? like a support top ? like a tank + support or another adc+supp ?

  • @haerix8595
    @haerix8595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video, tilt! Totally deserves all the likes and views, keep it up! You're doing a great job!!!
    Btw, I would love having "SpicyNoodle Adventures" kind of series, it was amazing!!! Kind of bored of double jungle/sion in general. Thanks!!!
    P.S. Bored cause there's nothing else now except the double jungle on the channel

    • @oneofthe12sionmains70
      @oneofthe12sionmains70 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, my good sir Tiltarella invented a new strategy and is demonstrating how it works in challenger while most streamers are just showing a meta champ in a meta role. It used to be him never posting, so I'll take repeat content over that

  • @markvarga3650
    @markvarga3650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro these c&c generals musics are poppin

  • @Boph_Teifong
    @Boph_Teifong 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:32 That cut was godlike. Wp, cutter.

  • @philipkaelin9012
    @philipkaelin9012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @all is there any Discord to have a proper discussion about various picks and just having a playground to test all theories?

  • @tannerdavisr
    @tannerdavisr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Look at that hitbox. 14:53. What a good game riot has made here

    • @thepuffinlord
      @thepuffinlord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      river elevation
      if lucian was just inside the indicator on tilt's screen but on the left hand side instead of the right the opposite would happen - it would look like he should have landed it but didnt

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't fucking trust river indicators, the stupid elevation diff is what caused that

  • @KingTwelveSixteen
    @KingTwelveSixteen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back when I played the game I literally ran Shaco double-jungle occasionally, and it was quite effective. Of course, bear in mind Shaco was one of my mains though, and he plays kinda weird and super-aggressive.

  • @dopamine9269
    @dopamine9269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    havent played in a while so dont know if its still viable but morg jungle was the first thought i had when it came to double jg

  • @oneofthe12sionmains70
    @oneofthe12sionmains70 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Karthus and Warwick are obvious double jungler options for different reasons. Warwick can solo jungle camps and the enemy jg while multiple levels down, and karthus scales super well plus farms for free and forces enemy jg to back with first strike. Either one works, but I think they are the best two champs for double jungle besides sion.

  • @uwexx
    @uwexx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did you switched from Iceborn to Hearthsteel?

  • @ducdo9517
    @ducdo9517 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello tilt i have been your fan since 2020 and i love ur contents. I am a shen main (only play sp :) ) and currently i’m in master. When i saw u picked shen jg i was curious how good he could be soo pls make video about him. Thnks u very much❤

  • @alex1225951
    @alex1225951 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Would like to see this done w high mobility champ like hecarim

  • @Darkry
    @Darkry 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before I watch... just wanna say I played double jungler strat with Ivern in low elo. Extremly fast for taking camps, great for ganks and making them mad. But these low elo players have no idea how to play with it :D The ADC's brain is like- "Wait, wtf? My support is not on the lane? He's griefing! FF!" Keeps pushing, keeps getting caught. When he is 0/5 against no-engage support in 8 minutes, there is no excuse. No matter the enemy jg has like third the farm he would have, he gets shit on by our jungle...
    I'm so glad I got out and I'm heading towards diamond now.

  • @fctheone
    @fctheone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I run volibear invade support, with ghost and predator. It works in normals, but not in low elo ranked. Challenge accepted?

  • @TommyGrzembke
    @TommyGrzembke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Id love to see Zac as a secondary Jungler

  • @lancetrumpet7701
    @lancetrumpet7701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually play Shen Support with smite because of your Sion videos! It's an awesome way to change the meta, Thank you!

  • @devilmok
    @devilmok 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it's possible to do Zyra as second jungler but you have to avoid direct confrontation before 3

  • @crustier347
    @crustier347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try neeko pls. U have e to cc enemy jg and q to farm. It would be really fun to see

  • @Yonen1688
    @Yonen1688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Taric and maokai both work as supp / jg

  • @user-tw2xg1oh9f
    @user-tw2xg1oh9f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why you take green smite on Shen?

  • @valeriosalvadori3198
    @valeriosalvadori3198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro i'm traing this strategy whith my friends in silver/gold and is super fun but we have problem whith the adc because he is always beaind but is so fun to play.

    • @abcdefghilihgfedcba
      @abcdefghilihgfedcba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need an ADC like Ezreal or Seraphine who can just farm from far away.

  • @kajacx
    @kajacx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:00 LOL that malza ult dealt more damage to him than to you

  • @thelatestartosrs
    @thelatestartosrs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i had a nunu support with flash ignite in ranked and i reported him but he switched to smite last second and carried, dude could have just hovered smite right away and not get reported

  • @Donche31
    @Donche31 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the music from Command and Conquer Hour generals China ?

    • @Tilterella
      @Tilterella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep

  • @prick4329
    @prick4329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neeko smite support? It might work

  • @nightfury8373
    @nightfury8373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shaco second jngl is overpowered, Im closing in on diamond with it

  • @Fine_Mouche
    @Fine_Mouche 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sometime when i'm think i'm jungler but in fact not i double jungle and win most of this type of games ... (the most important is to not steal the camp of the true jungler for he don't tilt)

  • @Gormezzz
    @Gormezzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I finally gave in and downloaded temu after seeing the prices only to find out the numbers were in USD not AUD.
    Fair is fair.

    • @YouLose
      @YouLose 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Teemu is commenting under random videos lol!

    • @Gormezzz
      @Gormezzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YouLose little devil app. Hide your debit card

  • @Harry_Chatz
    @Harry_Chatz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ithink ww is a very good canditate cause you build movement and tanky and can disrupt oponents all the time and has a good early game to invade with!

  • @Koschei293channel
    @Koschei293channel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SpicyNoodle adventures

  • @itzfactionyt
    @itzfactionyt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u shouldve played with locked camera

  • @drage7082
    @drage7082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hahah this is hilarious. Honda is currently my coach

  • @MasterOfHalo25
    @MasterOfHalo25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLS TRY DIANA!!! I have been playing diana smite support in low elo and its not bad. You can very easily invade by jumping walls with E, and can use Q for vision. The only downside in my opinion is that diana has no escape if you get caught so you need a lot of game sense.

  • @TheLukeSchnabel
    @TheLukeSchnabel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    double jungle as nunu support, good luck with all the dodges. lmao

  • @asadshah827
    @asadshah827 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imagine having a TH-cam channel with hundreds of thousands of subs and views to act that skint with a coach just tryna make ends meet

  • @Oragwazi
    @Oragwazi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    willing to see double jg with other chaps

  • @HomicidalTh0r
    @HomicidalTh0r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely wanna see shen double Jungle!

  • @nathanc939
    @nathanc939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think WW would be excellent for the strat. He does not really on early gold and is dumb strong in 1v1.
    Trundle also has easy clear and good lvl1 to 3 with somewhat good late game.
    Darius can likely work, but he is hella slow.
    I think champions that can force plays ate way better and for that, more mobile or CC heavy champs work better, but it also need to be a champion that can fight by itself and solo kill first camp, without issue.

    • @nathanc939
      @nathanc939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surprisingly enough, some of the old meta jungler of S1 to 4 might be really good at it. Back then, clear was harder and you needed serious AoE or sustain to be a good jungler. Turns out, some of them also got great CC.
      So this means Nautilus, Cho and Mao might be beasts. Mao did change, but the core is still there. Nautilus jungle is still good imho, it is just that no one plays it, just like no one pick him top, anymore.
      Old Malz would have definitely worked.
      Poppy today, might be an idea.

  • @austinhmmm9087
    @austinhmmm9087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my god if you played double jungle with Warwick i would shit my pants

  • @omarmg2458
    @omarmg2458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the Chinese music from generals XD

  • @saiftaher2210
    @saiftaher2210 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This coach is 100% Egyptian he has a perfect Egyptian accent

  • @pretendtobe1333
    @pretendtobe1333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What exactly was the role or the impact of the coach in game 2? I heard 0 comments or advice from him tbh

    • @danielmizrahi9629
      @danielmizrahi9629 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was just observing the game because they made the $50 bet. He wasn’t really there to coach for the second game

  • @raydaii
    @raydaii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OCE Bronze > OCE Challenger confirmed... what a server :)

  • @xXdarkpeaceXx
    @xXdarkpeaceXx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try it with Rell! :D

  • @zoltankiacz3024
    @zoltankiacz3024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is definietly not low elo but some smurf fiesta. It would be nice to see how it works in gold/plat mmr however im sure Tilt would make it work

  • @765craven4
    @765craven4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video has had 3 different titles in the hour since it was uploaded. What up with that?

  • @straba3976
    @straba3976 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I highly doubt that ezreal was bronze

  • @BumboBoy
    @BumboBoy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did somewhat prove it doesn't work in low elo. Love to see a ranked climb with nothing but this strat to disprove that if true. I'd say its a success if you can get to Diamond.

  • @miawpower8521
    @miawpower8521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    double jungle pyke!

  • @atmas1337
    @atmas1337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your coach voting to surrender, LOL

  • @abhisheknaithani3647
    @abhisheknaithani3647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did the couch mentally not break?

  • @Epicdps
    @Epicdps 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If that Olaf was doing literally anything whatsoever that was easy game

  • @PlatterMcTatter
    @PlatterMcTatter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is this scripted? You're in the Discord with the name that looks to be Tilterella with a Sion pfp. I think he knew from the start or this was scripted.

  • @P0PaCap
    @P0PaCap 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can pay for friends now? awesome!

  • @aaronthewhiz3160
    @aaronthewhiz3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The saddest part of this video is that $50 USD is $31.99 AUD

    • @Masterpouya
      @Masterpouya 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the other way arround --> 50 AUD is 31.99 USD

  • @sodedagaming1224
    @sodedagaming1224 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aatrox name 💀

  • @ludwignagelhus524
    @ludwignagelhus524 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bombaman

  • @canninho
    @canninho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Show me the double jungle.

    • @MindMaelstrom
      @MindMaelstrom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Belveth jungle and he's support with smite that counterjungles.

  • @Fine_Mouche
    @Fine_Mouche 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the duo options are elo boosting ...

  • @Vacio721
    @Vacio721 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can confirm this works, its is fucking cancer but it works. Be warned if you are a jungler vsing this your team are going to double blame you 😢

  • @thepivotman999
    @thepivotman999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rell is 100% the best double jungle pick

    • @abcdefghilihgfedcba
      @abcdefghilihgfedcba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s decent but her clear speed is terrible for invades.

  • @bidoofftw
    @bidoofftw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should do a video of you coaching an actual low elo player because i feel its not really the same because youre still much better than these player. It would be more fair and could better highlight how good this strat might be

  • @witchking2093
    @witchking2093 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go mordekaiser and kayn double jungle always work for me and my duo
    Spoiler I'm Silver

  • @GugliLucchesi
    @GugliLucchesi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did he coach though?

  • @carrotcake6002
    @carrotcake6002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should of sent Zimbabwe dollar.

  • @genghisfarn
    @genghisfarn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shaco gwarn

  • @IrishEyes84
    @IrishEyes84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine losing in bronze 3 as a challenger 😆

    • @TheIronTeemo
      @TheIronTeemo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      with a paid booster 🍄twice....

  • @HaydenMoulds
    @HaydenMoulds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shaco!!

  • @WypipoDumbreella
    @WypipoDumbreella 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought we don’t like Smurfing challenges 🤦‍♂️

  • @SupaSpaceBunnies
    @SupaSpaceBunnies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like Lillia might have some potential for double jungle. Having so much move speed makes for some outplay potential, and her ult is fantastic for teamfights. Outside of the ult, I don't think she's too as good for anything but damage, like how Sion has great CC.

  • @peepers4082
    @peepers4082 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recommend singed, easy champ to stall time with and outrun the opponent. I go conquerer or phase rush.

  • @elpollolocoman119
    @elpollolocoman119 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fine lets see you figure out double jg with aatrox.

  • @Fakey817
    @Fakey817 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is part of the problem in low elo. People doing weird shit that's throwing away games for no reason other than their own enjoyment at the expense of the other 4 players

  • @gongitfkdchina5476
    @gongitfkdchina5476 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oldest trick in the book

  • @davidtremblay9441
    @davidtremblay9441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that "coach" was a bit too quiet, some thing is weird with him, look scripted haha