I'm with Shane on this one lol. The haters can get stuffed, sick of dealing with their negativity on every episode last season. F that ! I'm all in. I have read the silmarillion, but I'm not a book gatekeeper. This is an adaptation and it's gonna have to vary as the book takes place over hundreds of years lol. Not only that they don't have the full rights to it anyway. Besides, the most interesting stuff happens in the first age in the silmarillion, before all this, so one day, we are gonna he lucky enough to see Morgoth on screen and it's gonna be glorious. But even then people will hate it lol
Im so glad I'm seeing way more comments like these nowadays. I loved the 1st season so much and couldn't say anything online without being called x amount of derogatory things.
I think it’s a difference of standards between different types of people and generations of viewers. I generally have a higher threshold for what I consider good film or television. I personally prefer movies and television shows pre-2010. There are plenty of outliers from 2010-2024 to speak of, but generally speaking the way story telling is currently being told just doesn’t flow with me. If others like it, more power to them. I won’t judge this season only based on this trailer. Just remember that everyone has an opinion and just because someone doesn’t like it, it doesn’t automatically mean they are “haters” or are on “the hate bandwagon”. Ryan Reynolds said it best when he was on the most recent Hot Ones episode, “CGI and Spectacle Won't Sustain an Audience”. If I had to sum it up, that would be the quote to do it.
You’re ok to like shit content. My issue is stealing a big name franchise and turning into agenda driven nonsense by talentless hacks but whatever floats your boat. It’s not lord of the rings though and Tolkien were be turning in his grave
@Limebradley i didnt like the first season either. But this looks epic to me. Also I'd rather have new Lotr content thats meh, than not having anything at all. I'd be happy with 20 more season. Me personally tho.
@@immortal5626 yeh and I think that’s why we get a lot of mediocre content now because people are happy with more but sometimes less is more. I don’t need Lord of the rings Harry Potter or more Star Wars especially when the people making them now ain’t got a clue. But again that’s me. The only thing I’d want is more video games from those franchise. Hogwarts legacy was great and the Jedi order games were good aswell way better story and characters in those games then rings of power and all of Disneys live action Star Wars imo. So potential is there
There are trailers where Galadriel says "She is no man" and "He is no man". Guessing they're trying to get across that Sauron indeed is a shapeshifter.
Sauron lost his physical form when Gil Galad & Elendil slayed his physical body. - full story: In book Isildur NEVER succumbs to the ring, he instead spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy! * He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro. * • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse). Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good. * They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself. They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars ! Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am) This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations? People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc. (JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth. Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work. Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise. Aside from that he might have lost his physical body once before exerting his fëa spirit to accomplish creation of this ring and lost alot of his former power to create this ring which is why he is unable to take form again after the ring was destroyed.
@@GreyFawkes then you’d enjoy the most beloved audiobook with full ambience by Phil Dragash. There is all three books on Spotify. There are 25 books in total. Everything you love today. Be it games or whatever else was all inspired by professor Tolkien. Reviver of Ancient Knowledge + Language. His works have saved many lives. Given them the strength to beat their cancer and so forth. I spaced it into bite sized pieces for you. Reading is a muscle that needs exercise. I used to be TLDR long ago but now I read all the time. Increases your growth of new neuropathways, repairs then too. Increases neuroplasticity!
If we never see Elrond growing out hair before the last alliance approaches I’ll be quite mad 😂. Maybe he’s currently honouring formally captured elves who had their sacred hair cut by orcs or black númenoreans as part of their humiliation and torture
Back in 2022 all was very grim, but in the english community fandom i'm starting to see a good change here this year and is really beautiful. Although my spanish community is still the same as awful and mind closed, that's really a shame for me, only having the chance to share my feelings of the show with the english community, wish they could change too.
@@Kynokefalos we wish they’d honour the source material and Tolkien himself. But they openly hate him. The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please! Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien. Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol. Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien. It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
Entwife? Should’ve been Celeborn. Who should have been in season 1. But you think Amazon will be faithful when they proven otherwise time and time again aside from berating Tolkien and the readers online and in recorded video format ? Yeah…
@@Makkaru112 Amazon has the rights to the appendices, everything else they need to ask for permission from the Tolkien estate. But it seems we get Entwives, Tom Bombadil and either Shelob or one of Ungoliants other offsprings.
@@throfur3489 Amazon did everything that Christopher said not to do before he died. They changed rules of the agreement after he died and rescheduled everything and even delayed filming anything so they could get around all the laws and protections together with Simon Tolkien. Yes. That guy. “Peter Jackson was too faithful to the books” Simon Tolkien. The very same guy who hated his family legacy and his grandfather.
@@elijahbrooks1472 how intelligent and oh so loving of you. Keep on consuming product and then get excited about next new product. We want higher quality art is all. Lost a lot by alienating millions worldwide. A multi generation fan base. Many of which were correspondents by letter to Tolkien. Entire families sharing these relics online. Many of which were added to books containing these letters back and forth between readers and other scholars alike. Wonderful stuff. ❤️
I dare you to interview JustSomeGuy. Very based his entire family have been correspondents via letter to JRR Tolkien himself for decades. The guy knows his stuff. He’s played every game out there to do with LOTR. He’s read all the books and the letters and so forth. 26 books folks. Latest one came out recently.
All 20 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
@@bobbyj5375 The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please! Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien. Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol. Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien. It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
I am so done with the hate 🙄 It looks amazing. I liked the first one and I am happy to be alive where they make series with that kind of scale and budget. You can't please everyone. I am excited 🤩
For something with a big budget I’ve never seen something look so cheap. I only watched two episodes of the first season and it was some of the worst acting and special effects I’ve ever seen. Literally a disgrace l it’s called Lord of the rings
@@3rdstreetreactions it’s cool if people love it I love films and tv that people don’t think much of either. Just as a big fan of Lord of the rings I thought it was very weak. Same with a lot of Disney Star Wars tbh.
@@3rdstreetreactions I hope hope hope that you guys will be reacting to the house of the dragon season 2 episode 7 before Wednesday it’s so good and by GOD I’m ready to see your reaction to this remarkable episode 🥰🥰🥰🥰 We look to you brother 😂😂🥰🥰
It’d have been better getting solo Celeborn with the Entwives. Like. Come on guys. This Aerondir shite needs to go. And you know it. Save more time for telling the real story. Any time anyone uses Tolkiens source materials tend to get tons of new fans because it’s just that great. Even people who first watched the extended edition movies through me are flabbergasted and deeply touched. Anytime that happened it was whenever the movies kept super true to the books beyond how much they already were doing that to the best of their ability while turning into a properly working film. ❤
Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien. It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please! Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien. Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol. Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien. It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
While yes, the timeline for the 3 rings is off, Just to clarify, the 3 rings were NOT made in response to Sauron, nor were they made AFTER the ONE. They were made during the time after Sauron left Eregion and traveled to Mordor. Then he made the ONE and the Elves were aware of his deceit and refused to wear them, and vowed to keep them hidden from him. I imagine for the show timeline they will not fully be aware of why Sauron wanted rings made or the danger inherit in making them. Down the line when he does make the One, I’m guessing they will have the elves realize his true purpose and not wear them again until he is defeated. The show has made changes, but I think the essence of the story can still be told
I wouldn’t allow a show to have that much power over me my friend. It’s easy to just not watch and stick to the books. No need to spend this much energy on a show you don’t care for
@@elijahbrooks1472nope. They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep. Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of tears later. Their horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt. Huge connection to BlackRock. Bezos bought a dying news paper so he could weasel his way into some form of power to control narratives. Bought his way into involvement with the CIA. Also. They were caught bribing people with their food deliveries etc to watch the show too. Then bragged they had big numbers in the beginning but several people dropped the show. Hundreds more continue to watch for analysis purposes for some of their videos.
@@elijahbrooks1472 Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…) Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
@@elijahbrooks1472hundreds of videos from people across the board disliked the show. It’s loathed and made fun of constantly because it deserves it. Retconning Tolkien and trying to steal a brand name for a quick buck with zero research and care never bodes well for anyone who disrespects Tolkien. Pushing that he was “Racist”, saying they’ll write the story Tolkien never told. Who do they think they are man! 😅
@@elijahbrooks1472Brian J Nerd Talks gif a great set of videos and fresh after reading The Silmarillion he was already naturally furious. And what’s worse is he’s what Amazon and others think is their demographic. That person of colour like many other persons of colour hated the show. Best videos was when he does his talks on this bus thing. Then steps out and continues his analysis of the episodes.
@@3rdstreetreactions False info from a troll and hater. He has commented this on literally every single neutral/positive reaction channel for ROP on TH-cam. Ignore him.
@@tjbfox769nah. These aren’t the bastions of geekdom. Yuppies at best. Consume product and get excited about next new product. No hate here. It was just cheap as heck. And talented movie creators and actors analyzed each episode; which this show falls apart at basic questioning. Constantly contradicts itself and drops its own storyline!
I'm with Shane on this one lol. The haters can get stuffed, sick of dealing with their negativity on every episode last season. F that ! I'm all in. I have read the silmarillion, but I'm not a book gatekeeper. This is an adaptation and it's gonna have to vary as the book takes place over hundreds of years lol. Not only that they don't have the full rights to it anyway. Besides, the most interesting stuff happens in the first age in the silmarillion, before all this, so one day, we are gonna he lucky enough to see Morgoth on screen and it's gonna be glorious. But even then people will hate it lol
One of our editors is a big fan and has similar sentiments
Im so glad I'm seeing way more comments like these nowadays. I loved the 1st season so much and couldn't say anything online without being called x amount of derogatory things.
I think it’s a difference of standards between different types of people and generations of viewers. I generally have a higher threshold for what I consider good film or television. I personally prefer movies and television shows pre-2010. There are plenty of outliers from 2010-2024 to speak of, but generally speaking the way story telling is currently being told just doesn’t flow with me. If others like it, more power to them. I won’t judge this season only based on this trailer. Just remember that everyone has an opinion and just because someone doesn’t like it, it doesn’t automatically mean they are “haters” or are on “the hate bandwagon”.
Ryan Reynolds said it best when he was on the most recent Hot Ones episode, “CGI and Spectacle Won't Sustain an Audience”. If I had to sum it up, that would be the quote to do it.
Same people that hate Star Wars and other Sci Fi and Fantasy projects
You’re ok to like shit content. My issue is stealing a big name franchise and turning into agenda driven nonsense by talentless hacks but whatever floats your boat. It’s not lord of the rings though and Tolkien were be turning in his grave
This looks absolutely epic to me. Hype level is through the roof. I hope it delivers
Looks cheap as fuck lol
@@Limebradley im sorry you feel that way
@@immortal5626 it’s fine dude I have the original films to love forever. I gave it a try and thought it was rubbish is what it is
@Limebradley i didnt like the first season either. But this looks epic to me. Also I'd rather have new Lotr content thats meh, than not having anything at all.
I'd be happy with 20 more season. Me personally tho.
@@immortal5626 yeh and I think that’s why we get a lot of mediocre content now because people are happy with more but sometimes less is more. I don’t need Lord of the rings Harry Potter or more Star Wars especially when the people making them now ain’t got a clue. But again that’s me. The only thing I’d want is more video games from those franchise. Hogwarts legacy was great and the Jedi order games were good aswell way better story and characters in those games then rings of power and all of Disneys live action Star Wars imo. So potential is there
There are trailers where Galadriel says "She is no man" and "He is no man". Guessing they're trying to get across that Sauron indeed is a shapeshifter.
Sauron lost his physical form when Gil Galad & Elendil slayed his physical body. - full story: In book Isildur NEVER succumbs to the ring, he instead spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails.
In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy!
* He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro.
* • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse).
Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good.
* They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself.
They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars !
Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am)
This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations?
People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc.
(JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth.
Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work.
Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.
Aside from that he might have lost his physical body once before exerting his fëa spirit to accomplish creation of this ring and lost alot of his former power to create this ring which is why he is unable to take form again after the ring was destroyed.
I’m not reading all of that.
@@GreyFawkes then enjoy rangz of gurlpowah ft Tiswas. Special featuring NAZGURLs.
@@GreyFawkes then you’d enjoy the most beloved audiobook with full ambience by Phil Dragash. There is all three books on Spotify.
There are 25 books in total. Everything you love today. Be it games or whatever else was all inspired by professor Tolkien. Reviver of Ancient Knowledge + Language.
His works have saved many lives. Given them the strength to beat their cancer and so forth.
I spaced it into bite sized pieces for you. Reading is a muscle that needs exercise. I used to be TLDR long ago but now I read all the time. Increases your growth of new neuropathways, repairs then too. Increases neuroplasticity!
@@GreyFawkes Why’d you waste time in your day to come all the way in here to say something so random?
@@GreyFawkes Sauron was killed by Isildur’s Father, Elendil, alongside Gil Galad: Elrond was GG’s Herald. There. Short version. Enjoy.
accurate or not, im so excited for season 2!! 🔥🔥
If we never see Elrond growing out hair before the last alliance approaches I’ll be quite mad 😂. Maybe he’s currently honouring formally captured elves who had their sacred hair cut by orcs or black númenoreans as part of their humiliation and torture
Back in 2022 all was very grim, but in the english community fandom i'm starting to see a good change here this year and is really beautiful. Although my spanish community is still the same as awful and mind closed, that's really a shame for me, only having the chance to share my feelings of the show with the english community, wish they could change too.
@@Kynokefalos mind open to what exactly ? Amazon has been getting sued time and time again. And many of their donors backed out.
@@Kynokefalos we wish they’d honour the source material and Tolkien himself. But they openly hate him. The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please!
Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien.
Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol.
Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien.
It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon.
but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations
Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
@@Makkaru112 Im not reading a comment that starts with "we hate Tolkien". Because the rest is a deep nonsense.
Ant wife! All is forgiven!
Entwife? Should’ve been Celeborn. Who should have been in season 1. But you think Amazon will be faithful when they proven otherwise time and time again aside from berating Tolkien and the readers online and in recorded video format ? Yeah…
@@Makkaru112 boohoo
@@Makkaru112 Amazon has the rights to the appendices, everything else they need to ask for permission from the Tolkien estate. But it seems we get Entwives, Tom Bombadil and either Shelob or one of Ungoliants other offsprings.
@@throfur3489 Amazon did everything that Christopher said not to do before he died. They changed rules of the agreement after he died and rescheduled everything and even delayed filming anything so they could get around all the laws and protections together with Simon Tolkien. Yes. That guy. “Peter Jackson was too faithful to the books” Simon Tolkien. The very same guy who hated his family legacy and his grandfather.
@@elijahbrooks1472 how intelligent and oh so loving of you. Keep on consuming product and then get excited about next new product. We want higher quality art is all. Lost a lot by alienating millions worldwide. A multi generation fan base. Many of which were correspondents by letter to Tolkien. Entire families sharing these relics online. Many of which were added to books containing these letters back and forth between readers and other scholars alike. Wonderful stuff. ❤️
I dare you to interview JustSomeGuy. Very based his entire family have been correspondents via letter to JRR Tolkien himself for decades. The guy knows his stuff. He’s played every game out there to do with LOTR. He’s read all the books and the letters and so forth. 26 books folks. Latest one came out recently.
All 20 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Bro be styling like Robbert Knepper
looks insane
Hello guys. Never watched this show at all. Will try to catch up to where you guys are. Trailer looks good, reaction good. Enjoy your day.
@@bobbyj5375 The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please!
Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien.
Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol.
Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien.
It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon.
but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations
Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
I am so done with the hate 🙄
It looks amazing. I liked the first one and I am happy to be alive where they make series with that kind of scale and budget.
You can't please everyone.
I am excited 🤩
We’re definitely excited to check it out! One of our editors is a BIG FAN! 🙌🏼
For something with a big budget I’ve never seen something look so cheap. I only watched two episodes of the first season and it was some of the worst acting and special effects I’ve ever seen. Literally a disgrace l it’s called Lord of the rings
@Limebradley agree to disagree. Thanks for the comment though! 🤙🏽
@@3rdstreetreactions it’s cool if people love it I love films and tv that people don’t think much of either. Just as a big fan of Lord of the rings I thought it was very weak. Same with a lot of Disney Star Wars tbh.
@@3rdstreetreactions I hope hope hope that you guys will be reacting to the house of the dragon season 2 episode 7 before Wednesday it’s so good and by GOD I’m ready to see your reaction to this remarkable episode 🥰🥰🥰🥰
We look to you brother 😂😂🥰🥰
It’d have been better getting solo Celeborn with the Entwives. Like. Come on guys. This Aerondir shite needs to go. And you know it. Save more time for telling the real story. Any time anyone uses Tolkiens source materials tend to get tons of new fans because it’s just that great. Even people who first watched the extended edition movies through me are flabbergasted and deeply touched. Anytime that happened it was whenever the movies kept super true to the books beyond how much they already were doing that to the best of their ability while turning into a properly working film. ❤
Two good looking men reacting to something I like now this is what mama can tune into 🥰🥰
Yes!!!!
Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien. It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon.
but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations
Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
Tom Bombadill.....finally but i hope we see Goldberry and maybe a song from him!❤
yall should react to the 4th karate kid movie with miyagi, the next karate kid. Its different but same. and its worth a watch
You bringing this up because of covbra kai?
Man, this looks so awesome, I can't wait.
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!!
Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
(Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well!
Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings.
They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups.
I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍
fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
@@Makkaru112 I appreciate the explanations man!
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The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please!
Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien.
Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol.
Remember, Amazon's version of the 2nd age is not Tolkien.
It is a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders and chief writers had stayed true to the original canon.
but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision and canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations
Should be is........how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions and distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
While yes, the timeline for the 3 rings is off, Just to clarify, the 3 rings were NOT made in response to Sauron, nor were they made AFTER the ONE. They were made during the time after Sauron left Eregion and traveled to Mordor. Then he made the ONE and the Elves were aware of his deceit and refused to wear them, and vowed to keep them hidden from him.
I imagine for the show timeline they will not fully be aware of why Sauron wanted rings made or the danger inherit in making them. Down the line when he does make the One, I’m guessing they will have the elves realize his true purpose and not wear them again until he is defeated.
The show has made changes, but I think the essence of the story can still be told
I wouldn’t allow a show to have that much power over me my friend. It’s easy to just not watch and stick to the books. No need to spend this much energy on a show you don’t care for
Looks so good!
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It’s a snoozer 🥱
Yet it got more seasons lmao. Ironic huh
@@elijahbrooks1472nope. They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep. Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of tears later. Their horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt. Huge connection to BlackRock. Bezos bought a dying news paper so he could weasel his way into some form of power to control narratives. Bought his way into involvement with the CIA. Also. They were caught bribing people with their food deliveries etc to watch the show too. Then bragged they had big numbers in the beginning but several people dropped the show. Hundreds more continue to watch for analysis purposes for some of their videos.
@@elijahbrooks1472 Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher.
Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!!
Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong.
Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…)
Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
(Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well!
Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings.
They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is.
Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups.
I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way…
“tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍
fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
@@elijahbrooks1472hundreds of videos from people across the board disliked the show. It’s loathed and made fun of constantly because it deserves it. Retconning Tolkien and trying to steal a brand name for a quick buck with zero research and care never bodes well for anyone who disrespects Tolkien. Pushing that he was “Racist”, saying they’ll write the story Tolkien never told. Who do they think they are man! 😅
@@elijahbrooks1472Brian J Nerd Talks gif a great set of videos and fresh after reading The Silmarillion he was already naturally furious. And what’s worse is he’s what Amazon and others think is their demographic. That person of colour like many other persons of colour hated the show. Best videos was when he does his talks on this bus thing. Then steps out and continues his analysis of the episodes.
Just 37% of US viewers finished the show
Thanks for that fact, I guess?
@@3rdstreetreactions False info from a troll and hater. He has commented this on literally every single neutral/positive reaction channel for ROP on TH-cam. Ignore him.
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@@tjbfox769nah. These aren’t the bastions of geekdom. Yuppies at best. Consume product and get excited about next new product. No hate here. It was just cheap as heck. And talented movie creators and actors analyzed each episode; which this show falls apart at basic questioning. Constantly contradicts itself and drops its own storyline!