SirWasssabii "To do something well is so worthwhile that to die trying to do it better cannot be foolhardy. It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone.” ― Bruce McLaren
SoCalSupercars i think the 12c is so much smoother looking. love the 12c. if i were to buy a 650s, i'd ask them to put the 12c face on it and i'll offer them like a million bucks
Incredible review. Thank you guys for showing us the history of brands and thier cars. By doing it, you give your reviews a perspective that some other youtube channels lack. Also, your language is beautiful as well.
This is why i love this channel; the reviews are pure, concise, and to the point. The larger channels have begun to disappoint and bore me; they try too hard to please the masses with tacky jokes and sesquipedalian loquaciousness - using large and elaborate words to seem smart. The mclaren 650s is my future dream car after i finish my schooling; thank you boys for a proper and stunning review. Last question, what is the music beginning at 9:50 - it is a banger of a track. Cheers boys! - Mike.
Great vid and i love the way you summed it up because im a Mclaren fan and i feel they do have a soul and they are very passionate about their cars and motorsport. I think someone even said that Mclaren is just as much of an engineering company as they are a car company.
m4-12c with the P1 front hood and tail lights along with the 570s rear diffuser and interior bucket seat and dash instruments set up . Now that would be a very good mclaren indeed.
Great review! I think Ferrari is becoming more like GT cars. McLaren on the other hand is listening to its customers and making all kinds of cars...like you said, a bit faster a bit better than the others.
Beautifully put together as always guys. Love your work, but this one felt a teeny bit 'lacking' to me. Can't honestly say why, but it didn't feel as effusive as, say, the video you did on the 458...
I now drive a 650S Spider after having a 12C Coupe, the difference is amazing! Performance wise it's another league! May not look much on paper, but in the seat of your pants, it's massive! Do remember as well, the previous 12C is a VERY quick car! I really don't understand the "You're not getting the most" "It's holding your hand" bit... It's a 1350kg 640BHP 207mph road car, I want all the help it can give me on the public highway. If you track it, the traction systems can be turned off to allow proper yob behaviour! Utterly brilliant!
I hope that someone from carfection reads my comment. I am a long time sub who loves the channel and experience that you boys provide. I have desperately been searching for the song at 9:50 for over a year now. Do any of you boys know the song name? Cheers - Mike
Interesting to see which is better, the 675LT or the up and coming 488... I hope the 675 wins out :) nice review, will there be much of the Mille Miglia, and your burnt sneaker ?
+kerk tp The Turbo S has three problems. You can only get the best out of it while actually driving fast, which you cant do on 90% of the roads. Also the price. Porsche likes making the base car really cheep however charge you lots of money for options which should be as standard. You can end up paying 250K for a car originally priced at 100K. The third is the depreciation. They depreciate worse than McLaren's do.
I am #McLaren fan and to be honest I was not surprised they took a little Porsche-like strategy in building cars with focus on overall quality vs "emotion". Almost like Golf. You cannot say anything really bad not to buy one if you have chance as most of arguments will be against others. What I do like is how McLaren is dinamic in updates and increasing their portfolio. This also has own downfall. Now you cannot even "connect" with manufacturer as every few years they hit market with new model, and you are just waiting for those crown jewels - GT3 and Speciale version as they are ones which bring "emotion" to brand. McLaren just needs to find own version.
All right All Right, still love you XCAR - But this one was a bit quirky in edit. Perhaps some track action would have accomplished this video very well - But that is easy for me to say. Thank You
If it does the thinking then YOU'RE not the one getting the most out of it. It's guiding you and holding your hand. Where's the challenge in that? But it's the same problem with almost all modern cars. Given me an old school car any day
econ1985 lol, watch a review on the S63 AMG... all the major supercar and luxury marques are doing the same. no one wants to make a car anymore that you can "DRIVE", that's why i'll be sadden when they completely stop making manual gear boxes
Two reasons why I love Mclaren. 1: it pisses ferrari off because Mclaren cars are faster (just ignore current F1 form ahem). Ferrari thinks the motor industry ows them. Nope. They act like a spoilt child. 2: I'm an aircraft engineer and I love the fact that function dictates; aerodynamics takes precedence. No aircraft was designed to look pretty, but you'll find in the aerospace world that if it looks good it will fly well. Concorde, Spitfire, SR-71. Even a Mooney. Point proved with the 650S. It's a purist, thinking man's super car, the engineers car. Now I'm off down the pub. Bye.
The public will get their hands on the LT in July of this year. I can not wait for that car. Heck I'd settle for a review of the 650s LeMans in the mean time just because it the best looking Mac that's not an F1 or P1
Nice, but I would say debatable: Ferrari has both, passion as you call it and engineering. It is one of the most innovative supercar companies, just look at each new model and you will always find loads of new pieces of technology, and many times even radical changes and innovations such as with the "4WD" of the FF to give an example. That's why, IMO, Ferrari is that step higher than the others. It manages to combine beauty/art, sport/performance and innovation all at once.
This does not mean I do not like McLaren. It is amazing and getting better and better over the years from all points of view (now just need to get back on their feet in F1)
8 minutes in before he stops listening to himself, trying hard, to wax poetic and finally gives it some beans. Unfortunately, those few seconds were extremely fleeting.
This review was lost at sea from about the 30" mark. It just shows you why Clarkson gets the dosh. I could go on but I'd rather stick needles in my eyes. Or do I mean Needell's.
Let's give 2 points to a car if its miles ahead and 1 point if the difference is marginal. Nissan GTR vs Mc Laren 650s Drag race: McLaren 1 On track, handling and speed: McLaren 1 Brand Image: McLaren 2 Ease of getting into car: GTR 2 (Carbon tub of the 650s makes the human access a horrible experience) Price: GTR 2 Rear and side view visibility: GTR 2 Cockpit comfort feel: GTR 2 (The McLaren has horrible inside storage plus its claustrophobic Outside comfort: GTR 2 (much bigger boot space, plus the cool 650s doors are really bad when it comes to tight parking spaces) As a future investment: McLaren 2 Best car on race days: McLaren 1 Best every day car: GTR 2 Total: 650s 7 points, GTR 12 points Personally I'd buy a GTR to drive and with the spare cash buy a Ferrari 348 for soul, saying good bye to 650s No matter how good the McLaren 650s becomes, it still won't be a Ferrari!
It goes fast so what? People who buy these cars won't be racing them and even if they do not competitively. It still feels emotionless. Look at the new 488 GTB and how pretty it is.
***** Ugly? .... It's better looking than a 458. It sounds much betetr than the McLarens that already had turbos before it. I'm not a Ferrari fanboy either. Just look at it i.imgur.com/kLxG9HM.png you cannot take back your statement.
princeworm ferrari doesn't win on the esthethic matter (at least for me it doesn't), specially since the new rear that has been made for the 675LT. anyway, ferraris are more passionate because of the way they sound and drive and feel overall.. if passion was all about looks, ferrari would probably be in trouble with a rival company like mclaren
princeworm I honestly disagree, the 488 looks like a anorectic 458 (which is an incredibly good looking car). It's like seeing the hot girl you went to school with after three years only to see she's lost what made her so incredibly sexy in the first place.
My only issue is if your already using carbon fiber to build it. Why no front grill made of the stuff? Hell even in the back,the interior? Why? And another reason this car can not hold it's value....sticker in U.S.....$325K......with under 1000 miles.....$245K-$265K......
Capt Flea In todays market it's not expensive as once before. Plus McLaren makes,uses Carbon Fiber in it's F1 campaign. Their issue is their vehicles loss their overall value like crazy.
That famous Bruce quote was the opening to my uni application. Love McLaren.
Did it work?
Ja'crispy Diablo Yeah, it was recieved well.
Dan Which quote?
SirWasssabii
"To do something well is so worthwhile that to die trying to do it better cannot be foolhardy. It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone.”
― Bruce McLaren
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You guys make some of the best reviews on the internet. Big fans!
Carfection Really?
Can't believe you lost that race on Netflix... you never had your car. Fucking shit driver noob.
Am I the only who prefers the 12c front end to the 650S? I think the newer style headlights only look good on the P1.
SoCalSupercars i think the 12c is so much smoother looking. love the 12c. if i were to buy a 650s, i'd ask them to put the 12c face on it and i'll offer them like a million bucks
The 12C is my favorite car ever
Dont agree at all. I liked the 12C but imo with the new front and black rear the 650S looks much better. The 650S is perfect imo
SoCalSupercars Yes that's right
SoCalSupercars I prefer the 650S! Also prefer the 570S over the 12C
Probably one of the best reviews i have watched, thoroughly enjoyed this!
McLaren cars are brilliant in every way. To all the lucky owners I envy you to no end
Incredible review. Thank you guys for showing us the history of brands and thier cars. By doing it, you give your reviews a perspective that some other youtube channels lack.
Also, your language is beautiful as well.
Literally my dream job. You get to drive the coolest cars and review them.
This is why i love this channel; the reviews are pure, concise, and to the point. The larger channels have begun to disappoint and bore me; they try too hard to please the masses with tacky jokes and sesquipedalian loquaciousness - using large and elaborate words to seem smart. The mclaren 650s is my future dream car after i finish my schooling; thank you boys for a proper and stunning review. Last question, what is the music beginning at 9:50 - it is a banger of a track. Cheers boys!
- Mike.
Great vid and i love the way you summed it up because im a Mclaren fan and i feel they do have a soul and they are very passionate about their cars and motorsport. I think someone even said that Mclaren is just as much of an engineering company as they are a car company.
To quote Bruce McLaren at the end put the whole thing in perspective. It is better to have than have not!
m4-12c with the P1 front hood and tail lights along with the 570s rear diffuser and interior bucket seat and dash instruments set up . Now that would be a very good mclaren indeed.
One of your greatest videos to date. Absolutely superb.
Fantastic piece by Alex and the xcar folks. The videography is sublime as always. Thank you
I hope you guys do one the Hurracan, the AMG GTs, and the S63 coupe soon !
Love your videos.. Amazing stuff as always :)
Love Alex goy's writing. Really complimented the 650s. Great car, Great review.
I prefer the old front
Olof L Yeah the 12C was way prettier.
Really I think this one looks much, much better. Much more exciting
imo the 650S looks much better. The 12C front is too round and not aggressive. The 650S looks perfect
***** it feels like they got the front for marketing purposes.. Appearance looks like a Frankenstein monster.
Thought I was the only one
Great review as always.
Love my 650s! Had a 12c loved it but wanted spider and a little update. It’s worlds better as a spider!!!
Feels a tad bit better than the 488 in my opinion...And you guys..great review..absolutely love it
I love the 650s! I'm so glad you did a review on it. Great video!
Great review! I think Ferrari is becoming more like GT cars. McLaren on the other hand is listening to its customers and making all kinds of cars...like you said, a bit faster a bit better than the others.
Great !
Best car show on TH-cam
Beautifully put together as always guys. Love your work, but this one felt a teeny bit 'lacking' to me. Can't honestly say why, but it didn't feel as effusive as, say, the video you did on the 458...
I now drive a 650S Spider after having a 12C Coupe, the difference is amazing! Performance wise it's another league! May not look much on paper, but in the seat of your pants, it's massive! Do remember as well, the previous 12C is a VERY quick car! I really don't understand the "You're not getting the most" "It's holding your hand" bit... It's a 1350kg 640BHP 207mph road car, I want all the help it can give me on the public highway. If you track it, the traction systems can be turned off to allow proper yob behaviour! Utterly brilliant!
Great video. I must say though, I find the 12C to be significantly prettier at the front.
Always love the quality of this video
As a brz owner I love mclaurens. When I make it big that’ll be my upgrade
Nicely done, XCAR.
Great Pictures and great host. very well done!
I had to like this video before i started watching
***** your videos always do :3
One of the best looking cars IMO
I think this young man (name?) does the best auto reviews on youtube. Steve Sutcliffe is a close 2nd.
Sickest quote I have ever heard.
Alex! That's the Kingsman's Ring!
this guy is the best reviewer
I hope that someone from carfection reads my comment. I am a long time sub who loves the channel and experience that you boys provide. I have desperately been searching for the song at 9:50 for over a year now. Do any of you boys know the song name? Cheers
- Mike
props for the quotes!
Alex your so good at this go on top gear!!!!
Interesting to see which is better, the 675LT or the up and coming 488... I hope the 675 wins out :) nice review, will there be much of the Mille Miglia, and your burnt sneaker ?
Nice vid and whathaveyou ..... but still prefer the 458 .... and really looking forward the 488.
very nice review
I love your reviews...No need to say more.
So fine as it is and as usual
That was brilliant.
Nice words at the end 👍
great review
Has anyone told you, you look like Chester from Link in Park!?
Anyway, great video!!
C'mon. It's really awesome hungry tart What's your opinion about !!!
I prefer the front on the 12c. I have no doubt this is a better car...but I'd be very happy with a 12c Spider. : )
What all variants do they have of the same thing. 550, 650, 675. They have become the Samsung of supercar world.
I love this car but the alcantara interiors are horrible. A well stitched leather interior anyday over this.
Jackie Scholl and snakes and crocs too.
please do videos of the p1 la ferrari and 918 spyder
I'd still go for a Turbo S.
kerk tp I'd still go for a 355 hehe.
+kerk tp The Turbo S has three problems. You can only get the best out of it while actually driving fast, which you cant do on 90% of the roads. Also the price. Porsche likes making the base car really cheep however charge you lots of money for options which should be as standard. You can end up paying 250K for a car originally priced at 100K. The third is the depreciation. They depreciate worse than McLaren's do.
+kerk tp Stop destroying the image of Porsche fans.
great vid thank you :)
are you guys ever gonna review the lexus LFA? i know there is a blue press car in the UK
Please review the F12 next!! :D
458 Italia Speciale all the way please.
Its as if the MP4-12 and P1 got in bed together and made this lol
again XCAR has done a great job in making a review :) very happy. Thank you!
I am #McLaren fan and to be honest I was not surprised they took a little Porsche-like strategy in building cars with focus on overall quality vs "emotion". Almost like Golf. You cannot say anything really bad not to buy one if you have chance as most of arguments will be against others. What I do like is how McLaren is dinamic in updates and increasing their portfolio. This also has own downfall. Now you cannot even "connect" with manufacturer as every few years they hit market with new model, and you are just waiting for those crown jewels - GT3 and Speciale version as they are ones which bring "emotion" to brand. McLaren just needs to find own version.
When will you review the P1??
All right All Right, still love you XCAR - But this one was a bit quirky in edit. Perhaps some track action would have accomplished this video very well - But that is easy for me to say. Thank You
It looks like they have 'fiddled' with everything!
Was the air on not working as it seemed a bit steamed up...?
Lovely car but those rims look tacky in a McLaren!
If it does the thinking then YOU'RE not the one getting the most out of it. It's guiding you and holding your hand. Where's the challenge in that? But it's the same problem with almost all modern cars. Given me an old school car any day
econ1985 lol, watch a review on the S63 AMG... all the major supercar and luxury marques are doing the same. no one wants to make a car anymore that you can "DRIVE", that's why i'll be sadden when they completely stop making manual gear boxes
Two reasons why I love Mclaren.
1: it pisses ferrari off because Mclaren cars are faster (just ignore current F1 form ahem). Ferrari thinks the motor industry ows them. Nope. They act like a spoilt child.
2: I'm an aircraft engineer and I love the fact that function dictates; aerodynamics takes precedence. No aircraft was designed to look pretty, but you'll find in the aerospace world that if it looks good it will fly well. Concorde, Spitfire, SR-71. Even a Mooney.
Point proved with the 650S. It's a purist, thinking man's super car, the engineers car.
Now I'm off down the pub. Bye.
would like to watch a review of the 675 LT :)
The public will get their hands on the LT in July of this year. I can not wait for that car. Heck I'd settle for a review of the 650s LeMans in the mean time just because it the best looking Mac that's not an F1 or P1
The 650s is still my favorite non-hypercar McLaren.
What do people mean when they say a car doesn't have "feeling" or "soul"?
A "step closer" doesn't matter if they're still 1000 steps from perfection
This car is already like 2/3 years old right?
can you please review 2016 jaguar f type r coupe 4 wheel drive. thank you
Love the look of there new lower powered car but this one dousing do anything for me
Nice, but I would say debatable: Ferrari has both, passion as you call it and engineering. It is one of the most innovative supercar companies, just look at each new model and you will always find loads of new pieces of technology, and many times even radical changes and innovations such as with the "4WD" of the FF to give an example. That's why, IMO, Ferrari is that step higher than the others. It manages to combine beauty/art, sport/performance and innovation all at once.
This does not mean I do not like McLaren. It is amazing and getting better and better over the years from all points of view (now just need to get back on their feet in F1)
Que the 'HUURRR Ferrari is better' comments.
Dan q the cue on the que
Lamborghini is better.
Michelangelo Hamato crap
+Michelangelo Hamato cough volkswagen cough
+Michelangelo Hamato Better at understeering
❤ Mclaren
The V10 sound in the intro is not loud enough
This is an amazing car :)
***** I like most of them ^^
mclaren > ferrari
I drove a MP4 12 c on a track day rental best 500 bucks ever paid
8 minutes in before he stops listening to himself, trying hard, to wax poetic and finally gives it some beans. Unfortunately, those few seconds were extremely fleeting.
that quote tho
This review was lost at sea from about the 30" mark. It just shows you why Clarkson gets the dosh. I could go on but I'd rather stick needles in my eyes. Or do I mean Needell's.
3:15 awesome
Let's give 2 points to a car if its miles ahead and 1 point if the difference is marginal. Nissan GTR vs Mc Laren 650s
Drag race: McLaren 1
On track, handling and speed: McLaren 1
Brand Image: McLaren 2
Ease of getting into car: GTR 2 (Carbon tub of the 650s makes the human access a horrible experience)
Price: GTR 2
Rear and side view visibility: GTR 2
Cockpit comfort feel: GTR 2 (The McLaren has horrible inside storage plus its claustrophobic
Outside comfort: GTR 2 (much bigger boot space, plus the cool 650s doors are really bad when it comes to tight parking spaces)
As a future investment: McLaren 2
Best car on race days: McLaren 1
Best every day car: GTR 2
Total: 650s 7 points, GTR 12 points
Personally I'd buy a GTR to drive and with the spare cash buy a Ferrari 348 for soul, saying good bye to 650s
No matter how good the McLaren 650s becomes, it still won't be a Ferrari!
nice
6:00 Illuminati confirmed
i think he means dynamics not danamics
For me the interior(screen) and the sopiler of the mclaren is better than the Ferrari
second is steve from autocar,chris harris is third
Hope this is the last McLaren with the 12C rear and the P1 front. Such a great car but such a lazy design.
The guy sounds a lot like Richard Hammond...
About late... This car
Has been out a while
You should of done the new one!
ahh!!! my eyes i cant look at it
i don't care about engine, horses or torque. tell me how will it perform against the Ferrari 488?
+XCARFilms what's the song that you used at the end of the video with the McLaren fading out?
did you find the song name ?
I’d buy one of these before a Ferrari
Step closer to perfection? so step closer to Ferrari 458?
That Nike face only fits P1 and ruined the understated beauty of MP4
It goes fast so what? People who buy these cars won't be racing them and even if they do not competitively. It still feels emotionless. Look at the new 488 GTB and how pretty it is.
The 650S looks and sounds much better than the 488 GTB imo
***** Ugly? .... It's better looking than a 458. It sounds much betetr than the McLarens that already had turbos before it. I'm not a Ferrari fanboy either. Just look at it i.imgur.com/kLxG9HM.png you cannot take back your statement.
princeworm ferrari doesn't win on the esthethic matter (at least for me it doesn't), specially since the new rear that has been made for the 675LT. anyway, ferraris are more passionate because of the way they sound and drive and feel overall.. if passion was all about looks, ferrari would probably be in trouble with a rival company like mclaren
princeworm I honestly disagree, the 488 looks like a anorectic 458 (which is an incredibly good looking car). It's like seeing the hot girl you went to school with after three years only to see she's lost what made her so incredibly sexy in the first place.
Boorn it's the same size give or take. I don't care about what size woman you prefer that has nothing to do with cars.
My only issue is if your already using carbon fiber to build it. Why no front grill made of the stuff? Hell even in the back,the interior? Why? And another reason this car can not hold it's value....sticker in U.S.....$325K......with under 1000 miles.....$245K-$265K......
You can complain about the price, but then want them to add more carbon fiber...which is expensive
Capt Flea In todays market it's not expensive as once before. Plus McLaren makes,uses Carbon Fiber in it's F1 campaign. Their issue is their vehicles loss their overall value like crazy.