@@kingtut7366 you’re right. I’ve been watching football for many years. But the last few years have had me appreciating the athleticism of these monsters!……and me calling them monsters means a lot because I’m 6’6” and 260lbs!
@@JakeSimmons-r2uthey don’t. Because if your line is really bad, it pretty much almost always will not matter how good your qb or rb is. There’s only so much a rb can do if he’s met at the line every play. Or if a qb is under pressure after a 2 step drop. That’s why the 90s cowboys were so dominant, best o line ever, not to knock Emmitt, but that’s the only reason he’s the rushing leader. By a WIDE margin. He’s nowhere near guys like sanders or brown but his line put him way ahead
Joey Harrington couldn't get sacked for two year in Detroit from 02-03 but he was also trash. Dan Marino in 88 was practically as impossible as a QB to sack as theirs been in 40 years
I used to get to the Dolphin’s games early enough to watch him warm up. He had some precision and timing drills that nobody else could replicate. Three balls in the air at a time and each one hit the receiver in stride at perfectly spaced intervals. At the end of his tenure Don Shula was just a figurehead. Marino was rallying the team and managing the game strategy. Unfortunately by that time his Achilles tendon was hobbling him and he had to carry the team by himself. He gave it everything he had but he didn’t have enough help where he needed it. A real warrior and incredible competitor
No, it does remain to be fact checked, I haven’t found anything to the contrary either. But I heard that guys from that area growing up like Marino and Kelly have had the privilege of being tutored by Namath as they were growing up as they are all from the same area. It’s plausible, but a real fact check is missing.
@ my comment…. I was stating that my input was not completely fact checked. Relating to anecdotes I’ve heard over the years as Marino and Kelly are both from the same area as Joe Namath, and that he may very well have taught them a trick or two about the position. I certainly was not arguing with one of, if not, absolute best DE that played the game.
You know that one throw he made against the Raiders where it passed through like four sets of arms before it dropped in on the receiver for a TD? The high angle of it doesn’t even do it justice. Edit: th-cam.com/video/Nt-rW5QOZzg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iF0c8eSn6cN_xJkl&t=70
Just like Barry Sanders you had to see them play full seasons to know how great they truly were. People need to realize winning rings is a team thing. Tons of players with a quarter of their talent won rings. The coaches have more to do with winning rings than the players. Barry Dan and some others were must watch TV.
Barry wanted to go to Miami, Detroit was willing to let him in trade for Dan. The deal quickly was dead when Detroit management made that demand. Barry then retired
@@brettkowalskias a lions fan that had season tickets with my dad since drafting Barry I would have love it! Marino and Barry were my favorite! Replace Troy and emmit with Dan and Barry omg that would be something to see
@ScottK-wv4om walking out of the silver dome was something else. First professional game I watched there was bird vs. Thomas. Billy Simms, and not to mention the first usfl championship team panthers
It wasn't just his quick release that prevented him from getting sack his ability to move in the pocket without taking his eyes off what was going on down field was 2nd to none. IE pocket presence
Marino’s mobility within the pocket, at least before his Achilles injury, is criminally underrated. He’ll never be mistaken for Steve Young or Fran Tarkenton, but within the pocket Marino was a freakin’ ballerina.
@@cassidy109 Even after the injury, he was a master of taking a little half step to make guys go flying by him without losing vision down the field. Really a lost skill in modern football
That 3 step drop and ultra-quick release is what allowed them to beat the ‘85 Bears. He got the ball off before the tidal wave rush got to him. Only team in football to beat us that year. Plus the fates were on his side. One of his passed got deflected right off a guys helmet. It kept flying and Miami snagged it and ran for a TD. Hard to defend against that!
@@ShaolinDoluhmiteyeah cuz that NFC Championship game victory over the Rams and the immortal Dieter Brock was such a monumental achievement. Not to mention the Super Bowl against actually-pooping-his-pants-in-terror Tony Eason. Real murderers row they went thru there...
@@TheeRealJesusnot sure what you’re saying; they could only play the teams in front of them. They beat the pants off the Giants who would go on to win the Super Bowl the next year. The Rams were all about Eric Dickerson and earned their way into that spot. The Patriots beat the Raiders, Jets and Dolphins all on the road from the wildcard to get there, a perfectly valid squad. The Bears also beat the 49ers, Cowboys, the Redskins with Theisman pre-injury. Not sure what else you’d expect.
Not a fins fan but I was born in 92 so by the time I got to watch him play at 5-6 he way past his prime and stinkin it up. That last game against the Jags was atrocious but hey least I got to see him play too ig
@@justforlaughs9018it’s not cap. Put him in Kansas City’s offense today, or give him the receivers. The question was how good would he be, not him and his receivers.
@@MarcusKineryou did not say “Kansas City’s offense”. Pat Mahomes is twice the QB Marino ever was. Lost in all this, Dan wasn’t clutch, he had a weak arm (could barely throw it 50 yards), and he has zero mobility. The Chiefs have horrible tackles, average receivers and RBs and an aging TE. Maybe if you said, “The Eagles offense” or even “The pre injury 49ers offense”.
I was fortunate to see Marino play at Sun Devil stadium, being an AFC team I knew it was my best shot of ever seeing him and so glad I didnt pass it up. I was seated about 20 rows up in the end zone and the Dolphins had one drive that started inside the 10 yd line. So it gave me a great chance to see how he moved and threw from behind and in comparisons to other QBs in the past, (that game it might have been Boomer Esiason on the Cards, who is no slouch either), it was easily discernible. TV broadcast doesnt do it justice when watching the great ones and this was the case with Marino too. He has admitted when he lost to the 49ers in the SB, he felt quite confident he would get back to the SB one , shocking it never came together after all those years in the league. gives a lot of perspective on how hard it truly is to even just get there
Parents took me to the RCA Dome in Indianapolis in ‘96 to see him. Marino led the Dolphins to a FG on the first drive and injured his ankle walking off the field. Bernie Kosar came in and scored three points the rest of the game. So got to see him play for one drive in person lol.
That draft class was awesome. Marino was the best pure passer to ever play the game, IMO... He's not my favorite QB ever, but my favorite passer. Man was his release quick. I was an Elway fan at the time. You just couldn't deny Marino's talent... the entire league feared his arm.
I can see the naysayers, but….the guy was built for today’s game. Quick release, accuracy, big arm talent, leadership. Was given absolutely nothing to work with at the skill position after the Mark’s time passed.
I remember they had some kind of all-star drill contest with QB's. I thought he would do terrible on the obstacle course with his bad knees. At the end of the course was a 20x20 box marked on the ground. Once in the box they could throw to a target. Dan won because as soon as he was in the box he fired a bullet at the target. Everyone else ran across the box before making an easy toss at the target.
Howie is right. Even when Elway was great and eventually got two rings, Dan was HIM. An absolute rocket and deadly accurate, especially on the long pass
He’s not wrong Marino hold numerous “lack of sack” records including lowest sack percentage, number of years leading the lack in sack percentage, and consecutive seasons leading the league in said category. Marino actually had something like 12 sacks against him in a full season. Just never got hit.
Never got hit? That is false sir, he rarely got sacked in some seasons but he constantly got smashed after he released it. Went to the ground a lot, even when he didn't get sacked
Mahomes ahead of Favre and Josh Allen is laughable. Mahomes has arguably the 4th best arm strength Andy Reid has ever coached behind Favre, McNabb, and Vick.
Marino played when the rules favored the defensive backs. For example, the DB could make contact with the receiver till the ball was thrown. In today's NFL, Marino would throw for 7000 yards and 70 TDs.
This warped me as a young football fan. I grew up thinking it was completely normal for the quarterback on your favorite football team to just casually throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs just because it’s Sunday.
He forgot to add the pocket presence. For a guy that couldn't run, he was so good at not getting sack within the pocket by just moving a bit and never taking his eyes off the targets.
I agree with Howie. Saw him play from my seat in the upper end zone, between the goal posts at Lambeau Field December 8, 1985. Quick release and accurate. Effortless. I vividly remember that game. Was in awe of his deep balls to the “Marks Brothers” (Duper and Clayton). One other thing I completely recall: the theme song from the series Miami Vice played during a timeout. I felt like Miami was taking over. 😂
Dan Marino's dad taught him how to thrown and when Dan first went to college his coach asked him who taught him to throw, and Dan said his dad. Why was it bad, and his coach said dont let anyone (NFL) change your throwing motion. It was up and out, quickest release ive seen.
Favorite football player of all time. The Pittsburgh attitude inside a talent that could soundly back it up! Worst part of Marino’s career was that it was in Miami with a supporting cast of virtual no-names
@@chrissandell3283 No, I see what he's saying. Rogers and dropping handoffs 50 yards downfield...none better. But quick read, quick release, consistent accuracy. Yeah, none better than Marino. Unless you want to take "So good at reading defenses he was unbeatable, even with a sloppy arm" into acount. Then you have to consider Manning. Brady's no where on there, unless you want to consider WINNING.
@Trollificusv2 Marino in all categories of throwing a football is better than Rodgers...no debate at all, if you actually watched both play the game. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
@@chrissandell3283Aaron has more yards, TDs, less INTs, higher completion percentage, higher QB rating, more rush TDs, more MVPs, more championships. Did you even compare stats or just talk out your ass like most fans?
Dude was putting up 5k+ passing yards back in the 80s… when it wasn’t just nonstop throwing. It was a running league. Absolutely unreal stats, he’s pretty underrated now. If he had a ring, he’d be top 3-4.
For me he was the best pure thrower ever. Like Howie said. To say “best quarterback” you need alot of other things to go right that are out of your control. As much as I loved Joe Montana , if you put Marino on those ultra talented 49ers teams he would have won multiple championships also. Same with Brady , etc. Marino was incredible.
I'm still in awe that receivers could catch some of his throws. He fired them in there just as hard for a 5 yard "toss" as for his 40 yard frozen ropes. Amazing arm.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, Jim Plunkett (2), and Brad Johnson all have Super Bowl wins. Football is a team sport and it wasn’t always such a QB and passing friendly league.
I grew up in Atlanta.. steve bartkowski was are guy, and pretty underrated.. but joe Montana did some special things on the football field. He may not have had the arm of Marino, but he ruled the late eightys.. after the bears in 85, it truly seemd like Montanas world
I was lucky enough to sign with Miami during the Duper/Clayton era. My first practice the receiver coach taught me speed cuts and your head better get around before the cuts. Coach said you will get knocked out by Marino’s passes. OMG those passes were like silent missles. Marino was the best!
The fumny thing is at first blush it looks like Dan is pushing the ball out of his hand. When you realize he's still got his hand around it, it's stunning to see knowing that
If Marino, Moon, Cunningham (especially if he had a line) Montana, Trent Green, would play now. Spread out like it is, 5k yards 40 TDS would be the bottom of the good QB list. Jeff George would light it up too. Marino didnt even like running. Hed pass 80 times a game if he could.
As much as I liked Marino, he reminds me of the horse that has a huge lead on the outside by the quarter pole in the Kentucky Derby but loses it in the stretch run year after year! Incredible speed, incredible skill but in the end doesn't do enough to change any key outcome.
In my mind there's never been a greater quarterback than Dan Marino unfortunately he was never given the total team around him. He truly was a field General.
As a kid I think Marino had the smoothest touch pass I ever seen it was like a long bomb spiral that laid across your chest in your arms while you were full speed
Love Howie recognizing the Center and how important he is to the success of the Quarterback.
100%. The guys on the line don’t get enough recognition
O line is a huge part of the game they all get their credit it’s just the average joes like us who don’t really pay attention to O line/D line etc
@@kingtut7366 you’re right. I’ve been watching football for many years. But the last few years have had me appreciating the athleticism of these monsters!……and me calling them monsters means a lot because I’m 6’6” and 260lbs!
@@JakeSimmons-r2uthey don’t. Because if your line is really bad, it pretty much almost always will not matter how good your qb or rb is. There’s only so much a rb can do if he’s met at the line every play. Or if a qb is under pressure after a 2 step drop. That’s why the 90s cowboys were so dominant, best o line ever, not to knock Emmitt, but that’s the only reason he’s the rushing leader. By a WIDE margin. He’s nowhere near guys like sanders or brown but his line put him way ahead
@@LegendOfKhaos12 you’re right. I used to feel bad for Barry. He had to look for holes.
Notice how he didn’t say “quarterback”, but best thrower of the football is a GOAT title. A shame he never got the ring, LACES OUT!!
They never built anything around him
RAY FINKEL
@@EEC-p6orevisionist bs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL RIGHTY THEN!
@@MrDa7777FINKLE IS EINHORN
My Dad's favorite quarterback Rip to my Dad 🙏🏿
Your old man had good taste
Jules: "What was it like to sack him?"
Howie: 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Joey Harrington couldn't get sacked for two year in Detroit from 02-03 but he was also trash. Dan Marino in 88 was practically as impossible as a QB to sack as theirs been in 40 years
@@erics8018Theirs
Howie: "Iunno."
@@Trollificusv2😂😂😂
@@erics8018we deal with winters and shit quarterbacks in Michigan.
People underestimate how great Marino really was because he never won a Superbowl. But man....he's the best I have ever seen.
That's why I don't believe team accomplishments should be a determining factor of one's greatness.
You're talking about a dude that threw 48 TDs in 1984. That's insane in the 80s with the way the rules allowed WRs to be pushed around still!
And most offenses were run oriented back then
My favorite QB of all time
I used to get to the Dolphin’s games early enough to watch him warm up. He had some precision and timing drills that nobody else could replicate. Three balls in the air at a time and each one hit the receiver in stride at perfectly spaced intervals. At the end of his tenure Don Shula was just a figurehead. Marino was rallying the team and managing the game strategy. Unfortunately by that time his Achilles tendon was hobbling him and he had to carry the team by himself. He gave it everything he had but he didn’t have enough help where he needed it. A real warrior and incredible competitor
He was my favorite player on my favorite team growing up!
No, it does remain to be fact checked, I haven’t found anything to the contrary either. But I heard that guys from that area growing up like Marino and Kelly have had the privilege of being tutored by Namath as they were growing up as they are all from the same area. It’s plausible, but a real fact check is missing.
@@ABMedic68What needs to be fact checked? Everything he said was opinion. How do you fact check an opinion?
@ my comment…. I was stating that my input was not completely fact checked. Relating to anecdotes I’ve heard over the years as Marino and Kelly are both from the same area as Joe Namath, and that he may very well have taught them a trick or two about the position. I certainly was not arguing with one of, if not, absolute best DE that played the game.
There's a YT highlight video of all his impressive throws. It's almost 50 minutes long. He was insanely good
You know that one throw he made against the Raiders where it passed through like four sets of arms before it dropped in on the receiver for a TD? The high angle of it doesn’t even do it justice.
Edit: th-cam.com/video/Nt-rW5QOZzg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iF0c8eSn6cN_xJkl&t=70
@@ShaolinDoluhmiteGoose pimples just thinkin about it
Just like Barry Sanders you had to see them play full seasons to know how great they truly were. People need to realize winning rings is a team thing. Tons of players with a quarter of their talent won rings. The coaches have more to do with winning rings than the players. Barry Dan and some others were must watch TV.
Barry wanted to go to Miami, Detroit was willing to let him in trade for Dan. The deal quickly was dead when Detroit management made that demand. Barry then retired
@@brettkowalskias a lions fan that had season tickets with my dad since drafting Barry I would have love it! Marino and Barry were my favorite! Replace Troy and emmit with Dan and Barry omg that would be something to see
@ScottK-wv4om walking out of the silver dome was something else. First professional game I watched there was bird vs. Thomas. Billy Simms, and not to mention the first usfl championship team panthers
Well said
Born with the golden arm..
Damn, wish I saw that in real life😢😅😊
Marino was amazing
Air Marino 💪 🏈
It wasn't just his quick release that prevented him from getting sack his ability to move in the pocket without taking his eyes off what was going on down field was 2nd to none. IE pocket presence
Marino’s mobility within the pocket, at least before his Achilles injury, is criminally underrated. He’ll never be mistaken for Steve Young or Fran Tarkenton, but within the pocket Marino was a freakin’ ballerina.
@@cassidy109 Even after the injury, he was a master of taking a little half step to make guys go flying by him without losing vision down the field. Really a lost skill in modern football
Best footwork and pocket presence all time, no doubt
His form was also great Learned it from his dad and never had to change it
Marino made quick reads. The ball was 'up and out' as his dad taught him.
That 3 step drop and ultra-quick release is what allowed them to beat the ‘85 Bears. He got the ball off before the tidal wave rush got to him. Only team in football to beat us that year. Plus the fates were on his side. One of his passed got deflected right off a guys helmet. It kept flying and Miami snagged it and ran for a TD.
Hard to defend against that!
Having to start Steve Fuller at QB didn’t help. Not to say McMahon guaranteed a dub but he had the dawg in him to fight for it.
@@ShaolinDoluhmiteyeah cuz that NFC Championship game victory over the Rams and the immortal Dieter Brock was such a monumental achievement. Not to mention the Super Bowl against actually-pooping-his-pants-in-terror Tony Eason.
Real murderers row they went thru there...
You were on the team?
@@TheeRealJesusnot sure what you’re saying; they could only play the teams in front of them. They beat the pants off the Giants who would go on to win the Super Bowl the next year. The Rams were all about Eric Dickerson and earned their way into that spot. The Patriots beat the Raiders, Jets and Dolphins all on the road from the wildcard to get there, a perfectly valid squad. The Bears also beat the 49ers, Cowboys, the Redskins with Theisman pre-injury. Not sure what else you’d expect.
@@ShaolinDoluhmite right
He would destroy Brady's numbers in today's NFL!!!
As a dolphins fan I'm glad I got too see him play
As a football fan he was a delight for the rest of us as well. He is throwing the ball.. the goat.
Not a fins fan but I was born in 92 so by the time I got to watch him play at 5-6 he way past his prime and stinkin it up. That last game against the Jags was atrocious but hey least I got to see him play too ig
Commanders fan...Marino one of the GOATs!
In today’s game Dan would throw for 6,000 yards. He’s the perfect example that this is a team sport.
That’s cap. Just because he was a good thrower, doesn’t mean his receivers were up to par for today’s game.
@@justforlaughs9018it’s not cap. Put him in Kansas City’s offense today, or give him the receivers. The question was how good would he be, not him and his receivers.
@@justforlaughs9018 The fact that they can run on the middle of the field without fearing for their lives for sure helps no?
@@MarcusKineryou did not say “Kansas City’s offense”. Pat Mahomes is twice the QB Marino ever was. Lost in all this, Dan wasn’t clutch, he had a weak arm (could barely throw it 50 yards), and he has zero mobility. The Chiefs have horrible tackles, average receivers and RBs and an aging TE. Maybe if you said, “The Eagles offense” or even “The pre injury 49ers offense”.
Dan would get stomped by today's edge rushers. Players are just more athletic now.
Absolutely agree. If you were to build a prototype quarterback in a lab he’d look like Dan Marino. Unbelievable talent.
Wrong. He would look like Elway.
Ngl If I was going to build a prototype in a lab, it'd be Cam. He had every single physical tool.
@@CreamyPesto505 everything except ❤️
@@208flatheads3 Fair. Dan would've dove on that ball fs.
@@CreamyPesto505or touch
Josh Allen or 2005 culpepper
I was fortunate to see Marino play at Sun Devil stadium, being an AFC team I knew it was my best shot of ever seeing him and so glad I didnt pass it up. I was seated about 20 rows up in the end zone and the Dolphins had one drive that started inside the 10 yd line. So it gave me a great chance to see how he moved and threw from behind and in comparisons to other QBs in the past, (that game it might have been Boomer Esiason on the Cards, who is no slouch either), it was easily discernible. TV broadcast doesnt do it justice when watching the great ones and this was the case with Marino too. He has admitted when he lost to the 49ers in the SB, he felt quite confident he would get back to the SB one , shocking it never came together after all those years in the league. gives a lot of perspective on how hard it truly is to even just get there
Parents took me to the RCA Dome in Indianapolis in ‘96 to see him. Marino led the Dolphins to a FG on the first drive and injured his ankle walking off the field. Bernie Kosar came in and scored three points the rest of the game. So got to see him play for one drive in person lol.
No truer words have ever been spoken. 🙌🙌🙌
Just because his team didn’t win a Super Bowl, he has largely been ignored as the greatest
Dwight Stephenson was really the best center of all time 💥... great player 💥
And the league wasn’t as pass oriented as it is today, he would definitely be a force nowadays
The 49ers were
He threw the football like a dart. I can't believe that more QBs haven't replicated his style
That draft class was awesome. Marino was the best pure passer to ever play the game, IMO... He's not my favorite QB ever, but my favorite passer. Man was his release quick. I was an Elway fan at the time. You just couldn't deny Marino's talent... the entire league feared his arm.
I still remember when I was 7 years old the Isotoner glove commercial with Marino lol.
"...way to go Dan..."
That was a good glove. I bought a few pairs.
Danny would own today’s game. The Man was my favorite as a kid.
I can see the naysayers, but….the guy was built for today’s game. Quick release, accuracy, big arm talent, leadership. Was given absolutely nothing to work with at the skill position after the Mark’s time passed.
70’s & 80’s were the best for sports…
I remember they had some kind of all-star drill contest with QB's. I thought he would do terrible on the obstacle course with his bad knees. At the end of the course was a 20x20 box marked on the ground. Once in the box they could throw to a target. Dan won because as soon as he was in the box he fired a bullet at the target. Everyone else ran across the box before making an easy toss at the target.
The real goat.
Knock it off. Brady GOAT. You didn't watch football for those 20 years?
Howie is right. Even when Elway was great and eventually got two rings, Dan was HIM. An absolute rocket and deadly accurate, especially on the long pass
We played against in high school and you could tell he was the real deal back then.
I once saw Marino throw the ball. He was good. The ball went where it was suppose to go.
Wow, what a dumb comment
John Elway and Dan Marino would dominate todays game like men among boys.
His footwork was also top notch
He’s not wrong Marino hold numerous “lack of sack” records including lowest sack percentage, number of years leading the lack in sack percentage, and consecutive seasons leading the league in said category. Marino actually had something like 12 sacks against him in a full season. Just never got hit.
Never got hit? That is false sir, he rarely got sacked in some seasons but he constantly got smashed after he released it. Went to the ground a lot, even when he didn't get sacked
Marino was the reason I wanted to play football
Best arm talent of all time.
1. Dan Marino
2. Aaron Rogers
3. Sonny Jorgensen
4. Patrick Mahomes
5. John Elway
Mahomes ahead of Favre and Josh Allen is laughable. Mahomes has arguably the 4th best arm strength Andy Reid has ever coached behind Favre, McNabb, and Vick.
Marino played when the rules favored the defensive backs. For example, the DB could make contact with the receiver till the ball was thrown. In today's NFL, Marino would throw for 7000 yards and 70 TDs.
Not many QBs could translate from that day and age to today, but I feel Dan is one of those guys. He could play in any era.
This warped me as a young football fan. I grew up thinking it was completely normal for the quarterback on your favorite football team to just casually throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs just because it’s Sunday.
I found out when I was 5 I am related to Dan Marino by marriage. My mind was blown!
Callin' BS on that. You never married Dan Marino.
He forgot to add the pocket presence. For a guy that couldn't run, he was so good at not getting sack within the pocket by just moving a bit and never taking his eyes off the targets.
Love Danny Boy ❤🥃
I had the pleasure to see Marino play back in the day, he was AMAZING
Marino used to compete in those qb competitions and he wiped up the floor with the other competitors
I agree with Howie. Saw him play from my seat in the upper end zone, between the goal posts at Lambeau Field December 8, 1985. Quick release and accurate. Effortless. I vividly remember that game. Was in awe of his deep balls to the “Marks Brothers” (Duper and Clayton).
One other thing I completely recall: the theme song from the series Miami Vice played during a timeout. I felt like Miami was taking over. 😂
Dan was that dude. Watched him live several times and he didn't disappoint.
Doug Williams always impressed me. Especially after he left Tampa and went to
The redskins. What a beautiful he threw.
Howie has found the fountain of youth. Dude hasn't aged in the last 20 years!!
Dan Marino's dad taught him how to thrown and when Dan first went to college his coach asked him who taught him to throw, and Dan said his dad. Why was it bad, and his coach said dont let anyone (NFL) change your throwing motion. It was up and out, quickest release ive seen.
Greatest qb ever… but it’s a team sport
Favorite football player of all time. The Pittsburgh attitude inside a talent that could soundly back it up! Worst part of Marino’s career was that it was in Miami with a supporting cast of virtual no-names
Absolutely true! Rodgers is a distant second!
Rodgers had a better arm
@glosteppin726 nope...you must be too young to know!
@@chrissandell3283 No, I see what he's saying. Rogers and dropping handoffs 50 yards downfield...none better. But quick read, quick release, consistent accuracy. Yeah, none better than Marino.
Unless you want to take "So good at reading defenses he was unbeatable, even with a sloppy arm" into acount. Then you have to consider Manning.
Brady's no where on there, unless you want to consider WINNING.
@Trollificusv2 Marino in all categories of throwing a football is better than Rodgers...no debate at all, if you actually watched both play the game. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
@@chrissandell3283Aaron has more yards, TDs, less INTs, higher completion percentage, higher QB rating, more rush TDs, more MVPs, more championships. Did you even compare stats or just talk out your ass like most fans?
5000 yards passing all the way back in 1984 which was a running era and only about 6 guys done that since.
Marino was simply phenomenal
Love to see the two interviewers sit back with respect and admiration of Howie’s take. A rarity in today’s world.
Time to get Dan the man on the show!!!!!!
its crazy to think but from being a fan as a kid to now hes probably seen every notable football thrower
I agree with Howie, that is huge statement... !!
Best quarterback ever no more questions to be asked
Dude was putting up 5k+ passing yards back in the 80s… when it wasn’t just nonstop throwing. It was a running league. Absolutely unreal stats, he’s pretty underrated now. If he had a ring, he’d be top 3-4.
Absolutely the best passer ever
I'd put Manning with him, and maybe Favre, as QBs who were just great passers and a joy to watch---among those who had a lot of NFL success.
For me he was the best pure thrower ever.
Like Howie said. To say “best quarterback” you need alot of other things to go right that are out of your control. As much as I loved Joe Montana , if you put Marino on those ultra talented 49ers teams he would have won multiple championships also.
Same with Brady , etc.
Marino was incredible.
I'm still in awe that receivers could catch some of his throws. He fired them in there just as hard for a 5 yard "toss" as for his 40 yard frozen ropes. Amazing arm.
Dan Marino is the greatest quarterback ever hands down! Sorry to the other greats like Brady Manning etc. Dan Marino was one of a kind!
Great QB’s win
No need to apologize for being 🤤
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733🤦♂️
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, Jim Plunkett (2), and Brad Johnson all have Super Bowl wins. Football is a team sport and it wasn’t always such a QB and passing friendly league.
@@Thergood You named the exceptions, not the rule. Brady is the GOAT
the ultimate gunslinger
My favorite quarterback til this day
Pure Thrower. Beauty To Watch
I grew up in Atlanta.. steve bartkowski was are guy, and pretty underrated.. but joe Montana did some special things on the football field. He may not have had the arm of Marino, but he ruled the late eightys.. after the bears in 85, it truly seemd like Montanas world
I was lucky enough to sign with Miami during the Duper/Clayton era. My first practice the receiver coach taught me speed cuts and your head better get around before the cuts. Coach said you will get knocked out by Marino’s passes. OMG those passes were like silent missles. Marino was the best!
I agree,unbelievable release
Been saying this for years…dude was a beast
The most accurate never sacked knew every play❤
The fumny thing is at first blush it looks like Dan is pushing the ball out of his hand. When you realize he's still got his hand around it, it's stunning to see knowing that
He’d throw for 6000 yards now
What a stupid comment
@SamS-rj8sb you need a hug bud
and didnt win anything.
@@SamS-rj8sbwhy is that? Born in the 90’s?
@@TheSouthernDemocratparty no people born in the late 70s and 80s seem to think players from their era would dominate today and that’s just wrong
I agree he was to Joe Montana what Peyton was to Brady
Montana and Brady just had Better teams … that’s it
To NOT say Duper and Clayton is a disservice.
Agreed. Both have better numbers than some Hall of Fame receivers.
Greatest lesson for any kid throwing. Ball goes up and out, hence the beat release ever seen was formed
Props for recognizing Stevens the center, as a big part of the Marino show.
My favorite player of all time.
NFL films had a little segment on him where they said the camera was always a blur on his arm due to how fast his release was. Def one of the best
If Marino, Moon, Cunningham (especially if he had a line) Montana, Trent Green, would play now. Spread out like it is, 5k yards 40 TDS would be the bottom of the good QB list.
Jeff George would light it up too.
Marino didnt even like running. Hed pass 80 times a game if he could.
I agree with Howie. Marino was incredible. Josh Allen's cannon reminds me of how hard he threw, but Marino had a super quick release.
As much as I liked Marino, he reminds me of the horse that has a huge lead on the outside by the quarter pole in the Kentucky Derby but loses it in the stretch run year after year! Incredible speed, incredible skill but in the end doesn't do enough to change any key outcome.
Revolutionized the QB Position best ever.
Period!
One of my favorite shows,Howie is OG Charlestown😎
Very under rated
On pure QB terms (neverminding the ridiculous critique of no SB wins) the best pocket QB ever.
In my mind there's never been a greater quarterback than Dan Marino unfortunately he was never given the total team around him. He truly was a field General.
Dan was once in a generation . If you ever seen him live in a game. That's when you seen it
That’s was back when qb’s would get demolished. Not like the divas of todays with all the rtp flags
The Dwight Stephenson shoutout was tough💯
Best QB worst owner Wayne highsanga or what ever built his own stadium and not a team .Just dan.
People just don’t get it. That generation of quarterbacks were fucking amazing. They would crush it in the league right now.
Marino ushered in the passing era, dudes weren’t spinning it like him back then. He’s like the Rakim
of football.
Julian askin that Dan Marino question with the Ace Ventura neck whip. Poetry. 😂😂😂
My favorite qb of all time.
Elway was my 2nd best, Jim Kelly. Vick was a lot of fun to watch. Warren Moon was incredible.
When Howie Long speaks EVERYONE should listen.
Dan Marino, Johnny Unitas, Fran Tarkenton stick out to me as the most ahead of their time. I’d love to watch any of them play
As a kid I think Marino had the smoothest touch pass I ever seen it was like a long bomb spiral that laid across your chest in your arms while you were full speed
Not often you hear praise for the Center…so you know Dwight was bad ass 😎