on the whole men hating women-women hating men thing on tiktok, i saw a comment once that accurately said « women’s hate of men comes from a place of thousands of years of oppression and submission while men’s hate of women simply comes from a need to control » and i keep thinking about it.
@@sarahnur7859 it is rare for one perpetrator to have one victim The problem arises when you apply the exact same scenario, but to race. For some reason, it turns into a sensitive topic, yet it’s the same logic. It’s such an easy trap to fall into. Unlimited info across the world and not restricted by time. The best example I can give is fear of flying. People with these fears almost always have no fear of driving or being in a car, yet it’s unbelievably disproportionate in the frequency of deaths and accidents. Thats because they consume lots of media about plane crashes, but not the car crashes, because they’re so standard in comparison, if that makes sense Just try and stop using that quote as it gives a reason for mistreating others. Not accusing you of it. But in my chronic online days I have some abhorrent screenshots from radical women to the point you’d probably assume they were men pretending to be women just to feel better. Women will mistreat men because they are bad people. Men will mistreat women because they are bad people. There is no correlation between virtue of character and gender, only the individual. Men and women are the same species.
It’s not because u we’re raised by 2 women u we’re just raised to be an amazing person and chose to be an amazing good person ur part of the small percentage of decent human beings rn and it needs to increase I hope whenever u have kids u let them grow up to be a good human like u cause we need more people like u
I was sexually assaulted when i was six. I only grasped the whole situation last year and fell into deep depression...i can only empathize w yeram , i know how it feels ..i remember scrubbing my skin off until it bleeded because i felt so dirty. I am in a much better place now.. rip yeram.
i'm so terribly sorry that happened to you. that's such a heinous thing to do to anyone, especially a child. although i'm sure grasping the situation is one of the most painful things you've had to go through (if not, the hardest), a silver lining is that you're processing what happened and i think that's great. i'm not saying that you'll get over it and that anything will "cure" the pain, but i'm positive that that pain will ease some. i'm so glad that you're still here and are in a much better place now. there's bound to be periods of time that are rough, but i hope that you feel some sort of peace most of the time 💚💚💚
i'm so sorry that you're unable to report the monster that did that to you. i'm sure the journey here was long and harder than i can imagine. i know i don't know you, but i'm so proud of you and glad that you're still on this earth. it shows how strong you are and that's soooooooo admirable 💚💚💚
I completely understand that. My assaulted committed su*cide 2 years ago which kinda makes it worse. Can't say anything bad abt the dead. I wish you nothing but the best and hope you're able to heal
I’ve been bullied by my roommates in college for about two years. This happened years ago back in 2014. Literally I was assaulted by my roommates and I filed a report with school police and they only told them to not contact them. When they live in the same apartment. I tried to my RA who was gone all the time so couldn’t reach her. My mom and uncle called the school they ignored my request of a new dorm. I told my professors they ignored me. I asked to move them told me no. I stop showing up to classes for a week. Professors still pay attention. One day of the people who was bullying me filed a complaint and then I get a phone call by the dean telling me I’m suspended for bullying and I have to move out within 10 days. I moved out and I withdrew from the university. Days later the RA calls my mom ask her what happened to me. My mom explained and say why didn’t I come to them. How could I when they were gone. They didn’t answer my phone calls. I was being ignored. It was literally a lesson they some universities only care about the money you give them.
The Korean Pharmacist video (uploaded directly before this one) that was mentioned in passing is also crazy. These types of things happening is so difficult to hear, but I love your Rotten Mango reactions! Your responses and discussions are validating.
49:56 fun fact, this means Koreas justice system uses the same legal system as the oldest in the entire world, the Code of Hammurabi, in which they leave it to God in order to decide Ladies and Gentlemen, Korea is unironically approx. 3700 years behind the rest of the world in regard to legal systems. In fact, Ancient Babylon exceeds modern day Korea in, at the very least, applying “an eye for an eye” for the minimum punishment. Round of applause for these cavemen for trying to
I hate that this happens so much and yes, EVERYWHERE! As a soldier I spoke up and even brought OTHER VICTIMS before the bare minimum was done. I sat by this guy and took orders from him every single day.
I was born from the R word and it still effects my mom he was her friend and was married with kids, im the same age as his child because my mom was assulted while his wife was pregnant...my mom is strong and was the best mom and im her everything...but at times i do things thats similar to him and it freaks her out cause i have his face...its sad but this is a reality for women
It is not his face, you are unique. He inherited the genes from his parents, and their parents, and so on. He is nothing of relevance to you, no more than the humans of the ice age that guaranteed your existence The only people that matter are those who care for you
children born of such situations are nothing like their fathers. if any resemblance exists, it is from the grandparents and ancestors prior. it isn’t crimes of the father that should burden you.
1:12:13 Grief is such a whirlwind, man. I’m the kind of person that goes into fix-it mode when shit gets bad. I don’t feel anything but maybe some anxiety until I can either fix it or there’s nothing else I can do. The second all I can do is wait or there’s nothing more for me to do, all of my emotions hit me all at once.
I feel so sorry the family are so heartbroken i could feel it i couldn't help cry, i know that she suffered and i know how it feels. its not easy you will never forget what happened no matter how many months or years. rest in peace
@@Anna__0528 I think be just thankes Steph for doing a video for his sister, she also mentioned the song he wrote for his sister i don't rlly remember but it's a pinned comment on her video
False accusations are rare, as a man you are literally more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused. Most rapist don’t even get jail time, much less someone who was falsely accused therefore has no evidence against them. It is also illegal to falsely accuse someone of a crime. Clearly the problem is that SA isn’t taken seriously not that some women lie therefore it excuses treating anyone who claims to be sexually assaulted like a liar
I mean I was put in a situation where I wasn’t assaulted but I was uncomfortable with what was happening, when this guy that I met for like 30 minutes ago is just being too clingy , I was obviously distancing myself from him until he tried to “fix my hair”and I was like get your filthy hand from me and literally dislocated his hand ,that’s how he understood not to fork with me . I HATE making physical contact specifically with males I’m not that type who is even going to handshake a male that I just met and be comfortable with it it’s just in my body that I start feeling disgusting. Anyways what I wanted to say is that I’ve been in a much much much less dangerous situation and I couldn’t sleep for like a month , that’s how bad us women feel and I hope men would understand, the tiniest thing that could make us uncomfortable, is a huge trauma that could never be forgotten easily.
@niahfeline guurl I totally relate, guys literally be walking by girls then whistle and say “oh some kitties on the street “ like not even try to hide it , that actually made me never wear any kind of revealing clothes like I’d be in the burning summer wearing jeans and large pants or a long dress like literally, and let me tell you , that didn’t stop them . The problem is theirs and they should get some help . Ofc by that I mean those species of guys , ofc good guys and real men exist but the question to be asked is Where and How do you know what typa guy he is. Honey I really thank you for your concern 🥹💖I’ve already overcome that trauma it’s been like 3 months since that moment and everything is back to normal now and I hope no one will ever be put is any similar situation because if I did overcome it in a month , some people will never be able to live as normal after being in such situation . And girlies over there , please, never drop out your rights and speak for yourself, the next thing I’m gonna say might not be the best , but I am more than ready to do it , if society didn’t provide you your own justice, take it to your own hands and be the judge of your own life, be prepared, treat it without emotions and focus on what you want to do most . Ofc I’m saying this because life made me realize that you can’t be you with everyone, so yeah , people get scared of me when we first meet until I decide if I can trust them or not , I’m not emotionless, I’m just conscious. I know that not everyone is stronger than their feelings, but at least don’t grave your pain to yourself, share it with someone and be sure that in such case , the fault was never yours. 🩷🩷
I already watched the original video, but it was so cathartic to watch this reaction. It's so sad to say, but we need more men like you. Wayyy too many excuse this kind of behavior and systems smh
She was only 23!! She was so dedicated to represent the Air Force and they ruined it by covering up her assault. They literally could have dismissed jang easily but only cared about their senior asses. So sad women are still treated like this and in SK at that. They need to do better. Rip to yeram.
during my time in school when i was 13-16 there was this boy who could never keep his hands off me no matter where we were. one time when i was leaving school, i was walking along this path, and he came beside me, holding my hand and touching my boob, and all why this was happening, his male friends who were walking beside him, kept looking and laughing. i can’t even express how scared i was that day.. i was still 20 minutes away from my home. there were no one around us, and he was still groping and touching me. even though i was so freaking uncomfortable, i was just praying that it wouldn’t go further, which it didn’t, thankfully. he kept doing these things to me up until i was 16, which was not long before i finished school. i was terrified of going to school practically every day just in case this mf would catch me alone and do something worse. yes, i did speak the teachers in my school, and my principal, but it never went anywhere because no one ever believed me despite those years trying my hardest to get people to listen. those experiences really stuck with me and now just walking by men has my heart racing sometimes. any women out there, please try to be safe even though we barely ever are when men are in our presence. rest in heaven, Lee yeram 🤍🙏.
this case pissed me off. Like they really had the balls to say because he was "remorseful" it should be shorter. f that. He SA someone and doesn't care that Lee Yeram took her life because of it. like Fuck that. and honestly how much they got in prison got me so pissed off. They all deserve life or 50 years. like really. and made me so sad that Lee Yeram thought taking her life was the only way out. this is sad and made me angry may Lee Yeram rest in peace.
There are women who lie about assault, yet over and over, in most cases women don't, because of the social stigma and people calling them liars and attention seekers... Besides, why is the assumption is "she's lying" rather than "let's look at what evidence there is"
I’m the daughter of someone falsely accused of SA twice (connected cases), and your statement about how it affects REAL victims of SA are completely true. Not only does false claims absolutely ruin the man, but it ruins real victims from getting the help they need. I remember seeing a poll on TH-cam with over 9k voters. The results (when I saw it) was that about 70% percent voted that they were either a victim of false claims or know someone or multiple people who got proven false claims but didn’t reach the legal system. In the comments, these people have the same story as me: either they were absolutely supporting those claiming they’re a victim or (like me) more neutral but leaning towards those claiming to be a victim before their incidents, then switching to completely neutral with no leaning unlike before (like me) or even critical of those claims after their incidents until evidence surface. Again, it was about 70% of 9k+ people who participated in this poll. This is the damage of false claims, and this needs to be brought up more than I’m seeing so that real victims can be believed without trouble and be helped. However, I think I can speak for these people when I say that THE FUCKING AUTHORITIES SUCH AS MILITARY SHOULD NOT BE SKIMPING ON THE INVESTIGATION. For EVERYONE involved. This is the EXACT thing we been fighting against just with the roles reversed. A proper SA/rpe investigation is something EVERYONE should be fighting for. Let me repeat this again: A PROPER INVESTIGATION SAVES LIVES OF VICTIMS AND THE FALSELY ACCUSED. WE NEED TO FUCKING FIGHT FOR THIS.
Women most of the time aren’t taken seriously when they claim to be SA, why would they commonly falsely claim to be SA (like you claim them to) when they know they’ll probably be mistreated instead of being taken seriously (like most cases including this one)?
@@chesiresaysmaybe 20/50 years ago and maybe in the court of law. But now, especially with social media it is different. And because social media is 80% of our lives there are some deranged women who use it as a tool because you don’t even have to accuse someone to the police now. Posting a post on social media is enough to ruin someone’s life, and if it’s true it should be but people have realised it doesn’t have to be true these days. Women are now believed more then men and the social justice online is crippling. Even in this case, I still think the military was forced to take actions against the perpetrators because of the outrage online, not because the victim came forward. And it’s the sad reality on both sides, we have to expose them publicly to be taken seriously not just by law anymore. It’s to be expected tho, women have always been in the position where we were never taken seriously. It shouldn’t be like that tho. But the law is slacking in that regard.
I hate seeing this over and over again. When I was in the Army, I dealt with this repeatedly and was lucky in not getting too hardly reprimanded when I threw hands at my would-be assailants. The constant 'do what I say, give me what I want and I will promote you. I can make your life hell or great' (Quotes from experiences). I took everything and every time to my husband, who was also in with me, and I said enough is enough. Screw court marshal, I'm laying hands back. Did that, explained myself to one of my friends I called in from Garrison command to plead my case when my whole chain of command blue falcon'd me. I was lucky and helped fellow women and men victimize to come forward with me. Changed unit from the people involved being taken to account (kicked out 'retired', or PCS'd for those of lesser offenses that we couldn't do anything to), classes in place, and enforced and using secret words or actions to alarm people if it happens to get to safety and help (like civilians). It was the only thing I could do before I medically retired years ago and husband soon finished out his contracts. I hope they (the unit) kept up with it and made some small difference. Hang in there my brothers and sisters in arms. Make sure to call your battle buddies, give them a hug and remind them they aren't alone. Make 22 into 0. I 💜 you all!
This is South Korean Military. That is another country, that is not US military. You need to see the Korean culture. You don’t understand it because you are not in Korea. That is not tolerated in US military. If caught, you get punished but this is in another country. That culture is very different. Look at the Middle East. It’s a different culture
this story hits me a bit harder than others being a survivor of SA myself. my story is different I was 13 and it was by my girlfriend at the time who now likes to tell everyone we know that I lied about it, but I understand the feeling of no one trying to help or bring justice to the sick people who did that and just the overall feeling that you are alone as you try to navigate that trauma. Rest in peace lee yeram 🤍🤍
on the whole men hating women-women hating men thing on tiktok, i saw a comment once that accurately said « women’s hate of men comes from a place of thousands of years of oppression and submission while men’s hate of women simply comes from a need to control » and i keep thinking about it.
They also mentioned that when women hate men, it only annoys. But when a man hate women, they killed women as many as they could
and the thing is every single woman has had atleast one bad experience with men..yeah we know its not all men but far too many men..
Why do men hate us so much...
And what they said isn’t wrong
@@sarahnur7859 it is rare for one perpetrator to have one victim
The problem arises when you apply the exact same scenario, but to race. For some reason, it turns into a sensitive topic, yet it’s the same logic. It’s such an easy trap to fall into. Unlimited info across the world and not restricted by time.
The best example I can give is fear of flying. People with these fears almost always have no fear of driving or being in a car, yet it’s unbelievably disproportionate in the frequency of deaths and accidents. Thats because they consume lots of media about plane crashes, but not the car crashes, because they’re so standard in comparison, if that makes sense
Just try and stop using that quote as it gives a reason for mistreating others. Not accusing you of it. But in my chronic online days I have some abhorrent screenshots from radical women to the point you’d probably assume they were men pretending to be women just to feel better.
Women will mistreat men because they are bad people. Men will mistreat women because they are bad people. There is no correlation between virtue of character and gender, only the individual. Men and women are the same species.
It’s not because u we’re raised by 2 women u we’re just raised to be an amazing person and chose to be an amazing good person ur part of the small percentage of decent human beings rn and it needs to increase I hope whenever u have kids u let them grow up to be a good human like u cause we need more people like u
I feel so bad for her. She just wanted justice but people did not care.
I was sexually assaulted when i was six. I only grasped the whole situation last year and fell into deep depression...i can only empathize w yeram , i know how it feels ..i remember scrubbing my skin off until it bleeded because i felt so dirty. I am in a much better place now.. rip yeram.
i'm so terribly sorry that happened to you. that's such a heinous thing to do to anyone, especially a child. although i'm sure grasping the situation is one of the most painful things you've had to go through (if not, the hardest), a silver lining is that you're processing what happened and i think that's great. i'm not saying that you'll get over it and that anything will "cure" the pain, but i'm positive that that pain will ease some. i'm so glad that you're still here and are in a much better place now. there's bound to be periods of time that are rough, but i hope that you feel some sort of peace most of the time 💚💚💚
As a r*pe victim that can't report their assaulter... I just thank you. Thank you so damn much. It hurts but I'm still here.
i hope you get justice one day !!! keep fighting 🤍
i'm so sorry that you're unable to report the monster that did that to you. i'm sure the journey here was long and harder than i can imagine. i know i don't know you, but i'm so proud of you and glad that you're still on this earth. it shows how strong you are and that's soooooooo admirable 💚💚💚
I completely understand that. My assaulted committed su*cide 2 years ago which kinda makes it worse. Can't say anything bad abt the dead. I wish you nothing but the best and hope you're able to heal
The whole case is so infuriating and just disgusting on the military site. Rip Yeram
I’ve been bullied by my roommates in college for about two years. This happened years ago back in 2014. Literally I was assaulted by my roommates and I filed a report with school police and they only told them to not contact them. When they live in the same apartment. I tried to my RA who was gone all the time so couldn’t reach her. My mom and uncle called the school they ignored my request of a new dorm. I told my professors they ignored me. I asked to move them told me no. I stop showing up to classes for a week. Professors still pay attention. One day of the people who was bullying me filed a complaint and then I get a phone call by the dean telling me I’m suspended for bullying and I have to move out within 10 days. I moved out and I withdrew from the university. Days later the RA calls my mom ask her what happened to me. My mom explained and say why didn’t I come to them. How could I when they were gone. They didn’t answer my phone calls. I was being ignored. It was literally a lesson they some universities only care about the money you give them.
That’s disgusting the school only called your family after you withdrew. Smh hopefully you’re well though.
@@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout I’m well now. I learned from that experience
what university did you go to??
@ I went to Johnson & Wales University
The Korean Pharmacist video (uploaded directly before this one) that was mentioned in passing is also crazy. These types of things happening is so difficult to hear, but I love your Rotten Mango reactions! Your responses and discussions are validating.
Thanks for mentioning this..I am gonna look it up
Prove that most of the men (not everyone) still think that women are only objects, not human beings.
49:56 fun fact, this means Koreas justice system uses the same legal system as the oldest in the entire world, the Code of Hammurabi, in which they leave it to God in order to decide
Ladies and Gentlemen, Korea is unironically approx. 3700 years behind the rest of the world in regard to legal systems. In fact, Ancient Babylon exceeds modern day Korea in, at the very least, applying “an eye for an eye” for the minimum punishment. Round of applause for these cavemen for trying to
That’s somehow not shocking given how the Na Young case went
It's always a good day when seb post , I love your rotten mango reactions❤❤
Agreed 👍
Rest in peace Lee Yeram 🕊️
I hate that this happens so much and yes, EVERYWHERE! As a soldier I spoke up and even brought OTHER VICTIMS before the bare minimum was done.
I sat by this guy and took orders from him every single day.
I was born from the R word and it still effects my mom he was her friend and was married with kids, im the same age as his child because my mom was assulted while his wife was pregnant...my mom is strong and was the best mom and im her everything...but at times i do things thats similar to him and it freaks her out cause i have his face...its sad but this is a reality for women
It is not his face, you are unique. He inherited the genes from his parents, and their parents, and so on. He is nothing of relevance to you, no more than the humans of the ice age that guaranteed your existence
The only people that matter are those who care for you
children born of such situations are nothing like their fathers. if any resemblance exists, it is from the grandparents and ancestors prior. it isn’t crimes of the father that should burden you.
1:12:13 Grief is such a whirlwind, man. I’m the kind of person that goes into fix-it mode when shit gets bad. I don’t feel anything but maybe some anxiety until I can either fix it or there’s nothing else I can do. The second all I can do is wait or there’s nothing more for me to do, all of my emotions hit me all at once.
I love when you do the rotten mango videos
I love your rotten mango reactions --- Sebastine & Stephanie together is my FAV!!!
I feel so sorry the family are so heartbroken i could feel it i couldn't help cry, i know that she suffered and i know how it feels. its not easy you will never forget what happened no matter how many months or years. rest in peace
Your mama and gma raised you right. I know they are beaming with pride.
was this the video that the victim's brother wrote a comment on Stephanie's video?
(R.I.P Yeram)
yes it is... rest in peace yeram
What did he say?
@@Anna__0528 I think be just thankes Steph for doing a video for his sister, she also mentioned the song he wrote for his sister i don't rlly remember but it's a pinned comment on her video
@@RachaDance253 ohhhh ok
I'm literally in love with your rotten mango reactions😭
False accusations are rare, as a man you are literally more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused. Most rapist don’t even get jail time, much less someone who was falsely accused therefore has no evidence against them. It is also illegal to falsely accuse someone of a crime. Clearly the problem is that SA isn’t taken seriously not that some women lie therefore it excuses treating anyone who claims to be sexually assaulted like a liar
I mean I was put in a situation where I wasn’t assaulted but I was uncomfortable with what was happening, when this guy that I met for like 30 minutes ago is just being too clingy , I was obviously distancing myself from him until he tried to “fix my hair”and I was like get your filthy hand from me and literally dislocated his hand ,that’s how he understood not to fork with me . I HATE making physical contact specifically with males I’m not that type who is even going to handshake a male that I just met and be comfortable with it it’s just in my body that I start feeling disgusting. Anyways what I wanted to say is that I’ve been in a much much much less dangerous situation and I couldn’t sleep for like a month , that’s how bad us women feel and I hope men would understand, the tiniest thing that could make us uncomfortable, is a huge trauma that could never be forgotten easily.
@niahfeline guurl I totally relate, guys literally be walking by girls then whistle and say “oh some kitties on the street “ like not even try to hide it , that actually made me never wear any kind of revealing clothes like I’d be in the burning summer wearing jeans and large pants or a long dress like literally, and let me tell you , that didn’t stop them . The problem is theirs and they should get some help . Ofc by that I mean those species of guys , ofc good guys and real men exist but the question to be asked is Where and How do you know what typa guy he is.
Honey I really thank you for your concern 🥹💖I’ve already overcome that trauma it’s been like 3 months since that moment and everything is back to normal now and I hope no one will ever be put is any similar situation because if I did overcome it in a month , some people will never be able to live as normal after being in such situation . And girlies over there , please, never drop out your rights and speak for yourself, the next thing I’m gonna say might not be the best , but I am more than ready to do it , if society didn’t provide you your own justice, take it to your own hands and be the judge of your own life, be prepared, treat it without emotions and focus on what you want to do most . Ofc I’m saying this because life made me realize that you can’t be you with everyone, so yeah , people get scared of me when we first meet until I decide if I can trust them or not , I’m not emotionless, I’m just conscious. I know that not everyone is stronger than their feelings, but at least don’t grave your pain to yourself, share it with someone and be sure that in such case , the fault was never yours. 🩷🩷
I already watched the original video, but it was so cathartic to watch this reaction. It's so sad to say, but we need more men like you. Wayyy too many excuse this kind of behavior and systems smh
I appreciate all your reactions 💜
Been waiting for this
I bawled my eyes out for Yeram hearing this story. God bless you, Yeram. Rest in Peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️
She was only 23!! She was so dedicated to represent the Air Force and they ruined it by covering up her assault. They literally could have dismissed jang easily but only cared about their senior asses. So sad women are still treated like this and in SK at that. They need to do better. Rip to yeram.
during my time in school when i was 13-16 there was this boy who could never keep his hands off me no matter where we were. one time when i was leaving school, i was walking along this path, and he came beside me, holding my hand and touching my boob, and all why this was happening, his male friends who were walking beside him, kept looking and laughing. i can’t even express how scared i was that day.. i was still 20 minutes away from my home. there were no one around us, and he was still groping and touching me. even though i was so freaking uncomfortable, i was just praying that it wouldn’t go further, which it didn’t, thankfully. he kept doing these things to me up until i was 16, which was not long before i finished school. i was terrified of going to school practically every day just in case this mf would catch me alone and do something worse. yes, i did speak the teachers in my school, and my principal, but it never went anywhere because no one ever believed me despite those years trying my hardest to get people to listen. those experiences really stuck with me and now just walking by men has my heart racing sometimes. any women out there, please try to be safe even though we barely ever are when men are in our presence. rest in heaven, Lee yeram 🤍🙏.
this case is so infuriating & so sad bro wth :( . Rest In Peace Lee Yeram 🕊
We need more rotten mangooo
this case makes me so sad.
this case pissed me off. Like they really had the balls to say because he was "remorseful" it should be shorter. f that. He SA someone and doesn't care that Lee Yeram took her life because of it. like Fuck that. and honestly how much they got in prison got me so pissed off. They all deserve life or 50 years. like really. and made me so sad that Lee Yeram thought taking her life was the only way out. this is sad and made me angry may Lee Yeram rest in peace.
There are women who lie about assault, yet over and over, in most cases women don't, because of the social stigma and people calling them liars and attention seekers... Besides, why is the assumption is "she's lying" rather than "let's look at what evidence there is"
She shoulda did some kdrama ish and spent 5-10 years plotting her revenge and got ALL of them back in the worst way
life isn’t a kdrama. she wasn’t mentally strong to “take revenge”
This shit is so foul. I don’t know how anyone hears this and isnt feeling mad sad repulsed and whatever other feelings you have. This shouldn’t happen
I’m the daughter of someone falsely accused of SA twice (connected cases), and your statement about how it affects REAL victims of SA are completely true. Not only does false claims absolutely ruin the man, but it ruins real victims from getting the help they need.
I remember seeing a poll on TH-cam with over 9k voters. The results (when I saw it) was that about 70% percent voted that they were either a victim of false claims or know someone or multiple people who got proven false claims but didn’t reach the legal system. In the comments, these people have the same story as me: either they were absolutely supporting those claiming they’re a victim or (like me) more neutral but leaning towards those claiming to be a victim before their incidents, then switching to completely neutral with no leaning unlike before (like me) or even critical of those claims after their incidents until evidence surface. Again, it was about 70% of 9k+ people who participated in this poll. This is the damage of false claims, and this needs to be brought up more than I’m seeing so that real victims can be believed without trouble and be helped.
However, I think I can speak for these people when I say that THE FUCKING AUTHORITIES SUCH AS MILITARY SHOULD NOT BE SKIMPING ON THE INVESTIGATION. For EVERYONE involved. This is the EXACT thing we been fighting against just with the roles reversed. A proper SA/rpe investigation is something EVERYONE should be fighting for. Let me repeat this again: A PROPER INVESTIGATION SAVES LIVES OF VICTIMS AND THE FALSELY ACCUSED. WE NEED TO FUCKING FIGHT FOR THIS.
Women most of the time aren’t taken seriously when they claim to be SA, why would they commonly falsely claim to be SA (like you claim them to) when they know they’ll probably be mistreated instead of being taken seriously (like most cases including this one)?
@@chesiresaysmaybe 20/50 years ago and maybe in the court of law. But now, especially with social media it is different. And because social media is 80% of our lives there are some deranged women who use it as a tool because you don’t even have to accuse someone to the police now.
Posting a post on social media is enough to ruin someone’s life, and if it’s true it should be but people have realised it doesn’t have to be true these days. Women are now believed more then men and the social justice online is crippling. Even in this case, I still think the military was forced to take actions against the perpetrators because of the outrage online, not because the victim came forward. And it’s the sad reality on both sides, we have to expose them publicly to be taken seriously not just by law anymore. It’s to be expected tho, women have always been in the position where we were never taken seriously. It shouldn’t be like that tho. But the law is slacking in that regard.
im crying this is so sad
More rotten mango please
I hate seeing this over and over again. When I was in the Army, I dealt with this repeatedly and was lucky in not getting too hardly reprimanded when I threw hands at my would-be assailants. The constant 'do what I say, give me what I want and I will promote you. I can make your life hell or great' (Quotes from experiences).
I took everything and every time to my husband, who was also in with me, and I said enough is enough. Screw court marshal, I'm laying hands back. Did that, explained myself to one of my friends I called in from Garrison command to plead my case when my whole chain of command blue falcon'd me. I was lucky and helped fellow women and men victimize to come forward with me. Changed unit from the people involved being taken to account (kicked out 'retired', or PCS'd for those of lesser offenses that we couldn't do anything to), classes in place, and enforced and using secret words or actions to alarm people if it happens to get to safety and help (like civilians).
It was the only thing I could do before I medically retired years ago and husband soon finished out his contracts. I hope they (the unit) kept up with it and made some small difference.
Hang in there my brothers and sisters in arms. Make sure to call your battle buddies, give them a hug and remind them they aren't alone. Make 22 into 0. I 💜 you all!
I once thought about joining the military. Good thing that I didn't. Forget the good benefits. 😅 Not ruining myself that way.
i saw about this case in kdrama.. its called killing vote if i'm not mistaken. this is really make me mad 😤
Hong kong tourist neXt plz it's crazy 😶
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damn what happened to your shirt why is it full of holes??? are you good?
thats just how the shirt is designed lol
@@wolfy_moonchild OH LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Literally military isn't the right place for a woman basically like you're putting yourself in a trap without knowing it
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This is South Korean Military. That is another country, that is not US military. You need to see the Korean culture. You don’t understand it because you are not in Korea. That is not tolerated in US military. If caught, you get punished but this is in another country. That culture is very different. Look at the Middle East. It’s a different culture
this story hits me a bit harder than others being a survivor of SA myself. my story is different I was 13 and it was by my girlfriend at the time who now likes to tell everyone we know that I lied about it, but I understand the feeling of no one trying to help or bring justice to the sick people who did that and just the overall feeling that you are alone as you try to navigate that trauma. Rest in peace lee yeram 🤍🤍
They failed, they lost someone special, may she rest in peace🙏