A story that really hits me, in addition to the children, was of a woman. She was in the mall, in the basement level, at a bakery. She went to pay, and realized her cards were missing. She freaked out, thinking they had been stolen. She ran out of the mall, and looked in her wallet. The cards were all there. Then the mall collapsed.
To the first question: Kids don’t always just say anything. You’re able to differentiate a story versus a real life event that happened to you. While kids say imaginations, they don’t just sprout up from nowhere. I would totally be walking away if my kid told me we need to leave in a worried voice because there’s no reason my kid would be telling us to leave unless something was happening. If they were smiling and telling me to leave or trying to be sneaky sounding definitely i’d be thinking otherwise. If my kid is seeing things we’re definitely getting tf out because spirits are real. The younger you are the more bad spirits prey on you.. once again we’re definitely getting out because there’s no reason my kid should be telling me to leave with that with a worried tone.
Yes exactly, its usually influenced by something that happened in their real life. People need to stop thinking kids are just dumb, if my kid was that urgent I would've left in a heartbeat.
You sound kinda crazy at the end there but the first half I agree with. The second half, if my kid told me it sees a "ghost" I'd also be getting tf out too, not bc I believe see-through ppl are real but bc we need a therapist asap. Or a medical doctor.
@@Abii140I think making your child believe there’s something wrong with them for using their intuition/ imagination is arguably worse. Kids have amazing imaginations and it would be a shame to make them believe their imaginary friends or things they “see” aren’t normal, and they should hide it from you. Kids see shit, wether you want to believe it’s ghosts or an active imagination is up to you
I'm a Pacific islander. We believe our ancestors still roam the land. If a kid said they saw a person, I would automatically believe the child, especially if it's a relative. All of my immediate family and their children have experienced something of the supernatural one way or another.
Just quickly as a Psych student, yes you are right about malls with cold temps for two reasons, 1: you see it as a place specifically during hot seasons to go to as a place for cool temps, and 2: you won't register it but your body will naturally want to move more when you are cold to keep internally warm and hence seeing more of the mall (while also wanting stay there during warm days.) Hope this was a fun fact for anyone reading :)
My dad actually went to Sampoong department store the day it collapsed. He went there to get something, made the purchase, and went back to his workplace. When he arrived, everyone was clapping and rejoicing. He was confused, and then someone told him that the department store collapsed soon after he left. I almost lost my dad back then.
I was truly invested into the story. I watched this before, honestly never heard of it until i saw stephanie's video. It was truly amazing how stephanie creates her opening on this case and the way she does her story telling, felt like a movie in which i wished it was but unfortunately its a real life tragedy with real life people died in it. Truly heartwrenching, im happy you reacted on the case like this one. You made the storytelling 10 times even more better by your reaction.
I was in my 20s when this happened. behind that mall is a set of apartment buildings. I was in one of those buildings visiting my uncle when that happened. knowing what happened and the fact that I went to that shopping centre many times still gives me shivers. around that same time was also the songsu bridge collapse. you should look that one up also. very sad.
My older sister was unfortunately one of those people that died in collapse and I remember seeing her face on the news and just crying my ass off. It hunts me all the time because I was abt 3 maybe 4 or 5 and it like a couple of days I remember waiting for her to come home and wonder why my mom would always cry and stare at the TV all day just for my mom to sit there and explain why my sister never came back to play with me. It really and I mean REALLY broke my heart to know that and especially at such a young age too. I probably been there twice.
@@Sebastine I don't agree with what he did. Some people want the convenience of everything in an single place often due to space or travel restrictions, zoning, and etc. Not to mention the area was a rich zone. A lot of other countries don't have as much space. I think he should've followed regulation. It's also why air travel one of the reasons why is also one of the safer methods of travel; safety = money.
I don't have a traumatic survivor guilt story but my mom did and she blamed me for her surviving. She worked at a family owned bar and the night i got to the town she lived in 3 of our family members were murdered. She was scheduled to work that night but since I came in she got off. It took her a long time to get over it and forgive me. Thankfully she did before she passed away this year.
@@personafanatic4597 I didn't know them well so the only traumatic part for me was my mom's anger and cleaning up the stuff that was at the scene at the time. I doubt I'll ever be able to handle raw or dried chicken again, especially if it's shredded, because it brings me back to that scene. We're all slowly healing from my mom's death. I'm a lot slower than others because I was POA so I had to make the call, all my medical knowledge and experience went out the window watching the end come for her.
@@chesiresays my mom was convinced that if she was there she could've saved everyone but she would've died with them. It was a hire for murder against 2 of them and the 3rd was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The murderer "unalived himself" in jail and we know who hired him but have no evidence so I'm letting the Lord deal with him and simply have nothing to do with him. In some ways I blame myself as well because something told me that no one should be at the bar that night but I didn't listen to it.
17:20 I think there’s a cultural thing attached to this like I think it’s stereotypical expectation that when you turn 30 or 31 in Korean age, that’s when you (maybe specifically women?) are anticipated to get married
It's always the fault of greedy people! In my country there is a similar case, the only difference is that it was a fire in a supermarket in the middle of Sunday, aprox 600 people inside. 360+ died, several missing, almost 200 injured and all because the owner of the place ordered the DOORS TO BE CLOSED to prevent people from leaving without paying, can you believe?
I found the incident incase anyone wants to read. It's called Ycuá Bolaños supermarket fire. "The doors within the complex were deliberately closed under the direction of the owners, Juan Pío Paiva and his son, Víctor Daniel, trapping people inside, in order to prevent people from fleeing with merchandise without paying for it." - Wikipedia And for extra background: "According to the defense attorney of the building's owner, the bakery and food court kitchen were not properly ventilated, which would cause smoke and gas to accumulate in the building. The structure also lacked a fire sprinkler system and the smoke detectors did not work." - Wikipedia
@@mistyrain8079 Yes, it was devastating, many people could have escaped if they had left the doors open. It took almost two hours to break the glass and some parts of the wall.
@@Oklahoma_is_me nah, nobody was there to check, they literally block the doors from the outside, the main entrance and the parking... and left the place
kids make up things yes, but if you notice your kid having a panic attack warning you to leave then listen to them...ive had my fair share of ghost moments, so if my kid tells me that he saw something THEN WE ARE LEAVING NOW
I love Stephanie for sharing the humanity in this story, I have now watched this video twice and I still bawl my eyes out, and I always will, she truly is someone who won't let history be forgotten or forgiven to those who watch her.
I'd heard a different story that the AC was working, but it had been turned off because these shed-size AC units were causing vibrations that were making the support columns crack because this building hadn't been built with 5 floors in mind, but 4. The 5th floor being added by a separate contractor and the AC units adding weight that the whole building wasn't rated for.
This made me mad.. HOW DO YOU NOT WANT 16 RODS BECAUSE OF ITS WIEGHT💀 you see how much stuff he had in that one building? y’all🤦🏾♀️ he not thinking about nobody else but himself smh🤦🏾♀️ I don’t even see why he even thought about building a store if you know you won’t have that much money😒🤦🏾♀️
I really hate it, There is NO WAY for the people who make that much money to make it in a way that doesn't hurt people. It's so upsetting cuz how much more they could have made if they just built it to the best of their abilities, they'd still be making 400k a day in a mall that is still standing. I'm so bitter when I hear these stories. And stuff like this happens in America as well, it happens everywhere that greed runs rampant. I really get so angry. How many people were helped so much in the pandemic with only a little under $2k, greedy people are rich out of their mind, they could give away 2k to people every year and still live in luxury but they won't. They actively lobby our politicians to screw over the people so they can make a few more bucks. I hate it.
I was once told by my step-father, after I lost my baby, that children 7 and under can see the unseen and are angels in the eyes of the Lord. I'm not religious but I believed him and still do. So, with that being said, if my young child told me that, I would have picked my child up and walked hastily out of the building without looking back. (I got chills when I heard that part. ugh)
I'm scared of going to the dentist due to childhood trauma. Because of Final Destination, I now lie on the dentist chair and try not to think of a fish miraculously appearing in the air above me and falling into my opened mouth.
This really breaks my heart because of what has been happening in Gaza, Palestine. Whole families under the rubble, +5000 children dying because of the occupation... It really breaks my heart 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Should of thought of that before they supported terrorists that have blatantly said they want to 'finish Hitler's job'. Whether you like it or not, history books will tell you that Jews have as much claim on the land as Palestinians. Perhaps even more so since they precede the Palestinians by a few mentions. Even documents and testimonies of the Roman Empire acknowledge the Kingdom of Judea but not Palestine. Palestine became a thing during the time of the Ottoman Empire which came afterwards. Maybe if Palestinians didn't support terrorists who again, want to kill off the Jews, maybe people would take their plight a bit more serious. You don't get to attack towns and murder thousands of women and children. Displaying their naked, mutilated bodies in a sick parade with men cheering and saying 'they want more'. Then cry victim when the IDF comes in wanting revenge and justice. Have they gotten careless regarding Palestinian civilians? Yeah they have but they ultimately started this. Every time Israel has these massive responses against Gaza, it's never unprovoked. It's always after Hamas pulls off a terrorist attack that kills innocent Israelis.
As a part of rescue team in my country, this just makes me so furious, to the point my chest felt so heavy and its hard to breathe. How can someone just so cassualy did those... disgusting things just to save some money.? And they didnt even try to fix it when they found what the problem was.? So easily endangered people's lives just for saving some money you wouldn't even use.? I hope that batsht old man is rooting in the deepest part of hell today.
The guilt and sorrow we felt every time we found another and another body from every disaster (either natural or human-made)... All those feelings, it's like they're physically chained and dragging you down, on top of the physical exhaustion. None of my teammates ever not shed tears when we were on the field. And seeing the family crying and screaming over their lost loved ones... There's nothing we can do but say I'm sorry, again, and again. In the past 7 years, I don't know how many times I felt so hopeless like all the things I've done all this time were just useless, and maybe I should just give up.
Sebastine: Why are you saving so much money? What are you doing with all this money? You're not building another mall. Me: The guy is literally Mr. Krabbs.
This is one of the biggist tradgerdy in Korea. While I can't forget the news of Sewol ferry, My parents says they can't forget the news of that Sampoong Mall.
hey, seb! stephanie just released a rotten mango video about the burning sun scandal that seungri from bigbang and other korean celebs were involved in. since it's related to kpop and one of the biggest scandals in kpop history, i think it'd be really interesting for you to watch!
I knew about this incident because of Reply 1994, and that always gave me so much goosebumps. then i had read up a bit on it, and when finally i saw this video and got the whole story i still cant believe like how can people do such things and he wanted to save money he had so much money like whaaat. I feel so bad for all the people affected by this. This is so sad :'(
I think the idea of the mall was good. Having a one stop shop is amazing and I don't see why anyone would be against having one. The thing that makes it bad in this case, was the fact that it wasn't made properly. Had this person been more focused on making it safe instead of trying to cut costs, everyone would love it. This guy deserves everything bad that comes to him. Also that part about rich people needing to spend their money to help other people, everyone should be able to spend their money the way that they want to. The world shouldnt be relying on rich people to help them but the government should be doing it. Instead of the government spending money on useless things that dont help anyone, they should think about the people in their country and better ways to help them.
Alot of mall in Asia is like that, one stop shop is really popular, the whole family can enjoy their time, mom/dad went grocery shopping while kids do tutoring, barber, eye check, cake/ice cream shop, pick new furniture/home decor, eat together when done in food court or many restaurants provided also car being wash in parking structure in car service area. Its a great idea. However like you said, the owner cut cost and prefer profit over the safety of people, very disgusting.
Also agree, why wait for hand out from rich people, you can choose to study diligently, get good job, do smart investing, self-made should be the way for anyone. Once you are successful then you can CHOOSE to help out not force to give out. You want to be rich, work for it.
I'm only 20 mins in and the first time I watched this case I remember thinking that from the title it was going to be about a mass shooting. I had absolutely NO IDEA what it was gonna entail. This tragedy is one of the cases that's stood out to me because of how such a mundane environment like a mall could end up crushing, trapping, and cause so many senseless PREVENTABLE deaths 😭😭😭 It's a different kind of terror and horror with the cases about an insane amount of people losing their lives all because the freaking structure and foundation of the building, or even the boat / ferry they're in, isn't remotely safe. Hearing the accounts of the survivors was so heartbreaking.
4:22 I would hope I would leave and take them away from this please. Like this is so gross this man wanted to save money other then making a safe place for family and other people. He seems like he didn’t care at all. Like wtf. I was so saddened by the deaths. It is so sad of many people died and just so sad and awful.
That collapse reminds me of the Rana Plaza building that collapsed burying numerous workers for the fashion industry. That building had also another storey added on too, abd all the heavy sewing machines and bulks of fabric made it more unstable.
Help me again, i just........im baffled that this is just wild.... To ignore LITERAL signs the building is awful, to cheap out on construction, to not give a damn..... Rich people are a blemish to the world
Right, but only the arrogant, greedy, and snobbish rich people are the blemish to the world, i dont like when the majority like the good or humble beginnings type of rich people are suffering by being associated to to the bad ones.
literally Lee is actually so dumb for not listening to the ACTUAL people building the building and just continuing to make obviously bad decisions that affected a bunch of people. it was all his fault.
i was visiting Korea when this happened . ( Before Nobody Cared about Korea ) Was All over the News and showed all the views from the chopper . it was horrendous
If my kid says "we need to leave because there's a bleeding man that you can't see telling us to go away" I'm already halfway out the door nope to that.
what I don’t understand is how he thought having an unsafe building, that could collapse any second would make him more money/ save him more money, then if he spent a couple thousand more to make it safe so it wouldn’t collapse. If it collapsed he’d lose crazy amounts of money 💀 he he made it safe he could of had it for years and years and made 100x time more money then he made
I always believe kids, my family is very religious and we fully believe in those gifts, and in so many occasions my siblings and I, mostly me, were able to do things that are unexplainable, like, there was this time where I saw "someone" besides my mom's car trunk, left side to be more specific, and after that I started to get so anxious about her going to work that night, I managed to tell her to be careful with the trunk door, a few hours after she went to work, she called home and asked if someone could go and get her because the trunk door fell on her head and gave her a concussion and 10 stitches, what happened was, the hydraulic suspension that kept the door open, the left one, broke. Thankfully, she heard me, she usually don't pay attention to that door, but she had her hand ready to catch the door, if she hadn't her hand like that, the door could had hit the back of her neck. She fixed that thing and, seven years later, it never happened again, she still have that car, but she is very careful with that door, she doesn't use the trunk if she is alone and when she's with someone, she ask them to hold the door for her. Sorry for those who think this story is lame, but is because the others I have are much more personal and I don't think my family would want this on the internet.
As an African I swear I'd listen. Other African who have lived in Africa should know this... about black magic and children seeing things especially in the rural areas
37:12 you are so right in the money right there LMAOOOO youre so getting good at figuring out the plot already and it happened in so many videos already 🤣
Hey thank you for listening (reading… 🤔) the other comments asking for reacting to the mall rotten mango video! I’ve watched it a couple of times by now.
I feel the same way with hearing anything from a child. I might listen to it. I literally hate going to the mall now unless it’s to go to the Barnes and noble and the movies. I feel like stores now don’t have anything for plus size. It’s made for standard sizes. Even if you go to some stores they have a corner that’s very unorganized. I learned about the temperature settings in fashion school
I don't have that kind of survival guilt but I did have survival guilt for surviving domestic violence when most women in that same situation have lost their lives. I almost died 3 times by hands of a man that said he loved me earlier that day....I don't know how I survived but not only did I survive I still see good in people and have love in my heart for others
Just started the video and I wanted to answer the questions real quick. I watched the mall one a while back and was also sort of confused at the beginning hearing about only the kids seeing the bloody people. I personally do believe in spirits and it's said that with kids the younger they are the more naturally tuned in they'll be to the spirit world and to things that adults don't believe in. This is because children still have their innocence and unwavering belief whereas adults become skeptical about the unknown as they get older. Kids oftentimes won't really question what they're seeing so that's why I think it was mostly kids that had seen those people because I'm guessing they'd already passed away. This is also why I think many adults believe their kids just have a vivid imagination when they're told about "imaginary friends." I think a lot of the time those friends may be spirits that they're interacting with. Also not all spirits are bad or negative. They can range from neutral, good, or malicious and a lot of them don't even realize that they've passed away which is quite sad. So if I ever heard a kid tell me we need to leave and it's because they're describing and trying to warn me about something horrific that I'm not able to see I would definitely get out!
Pause i just found out your from the DMV too. S/O the DMV🤗 Liked you before but we from the same place now you get extra points😂😂 I absolutely loathe being in malls now after being in them every weekend, day off from school, or holidays off. You will not catch me at Dulles, Tysons, Pentagon City etc. Keep up the good work though! Found you from watching Stephanie over the years and I love the commentary. Its all the same things i say to myself while watching lol
24:50 I think civilians would for sure still try to help, as the civilians tried to help with the ferry incident too but were stopped by the government. I’m iffy on the government because in the other incident that we looked out where the government were really slow, it was because the government were involved in the incident happening in the first place, so not helping was either to cover their own backs or not acknowledge their part in the problem. Like I think I remember that the gov had some stake in the ferry overloading, and for the incident where everyone was stuck in an alley during Halloween, all the policemen and other forces that should have been there were at like the presidents house cuz the prez chose to stay at home. Maybe since they didn’t have a part in this they might have still helped.
I hope someday you and Stephanie make a collab, do a mukbang as she tells a story, then you and Mr. Mangobutt reacts to it. I seriously enjoy your reaction because you seem so genuine that i am willing to watch a two hour long video of you reacting even though I’ve seen this story from Stephanie’s channel.
I saw a 2 story house get done from pouring the concrete to the the external being done in less than 24 hrs. No thank you, I'll supervise my house being built on my own lol.
24:45 In reguards to ordinary citizens, since a lot of them were running away BECAUSE they thought it was a terrorist attack, I like to think that more of them would’ve helped if they didn’t think it was.
I've watched final destination too. Seb same! Capitalism always likes more money. There's never enough 🙄 2:05:19 exactly I love the way seb said idiot 😂😂
I've hallucinated once before when i had a fever. I was in so much pain, i felt my whole body was burning and i couldn't tell what was real or not. I was disoriented, i thought i was in ancient china with a fire demon in me and i was getting exorcised. My inner thoughts even had me thinking in old mannerisms. Like a poet. It was not fun. I think hallucinations is less for to lessen the pain. And more that the body lacks the means to understand what is happening. Lack of oxygen or water deprives your body of their basic needs, especially the brain. I can't imagine what it was like trapped in there hallucinating. Scared, confused, and not being fully aware of your own upcoming demise. There were probably people hallucinating, too far gone to register rescuers nearby, too far gone to hear them or even think they were real that you don't answer to not waste energy and oxygen. Hallucinating is like a nightmare you can't get out of. Because even if you're a bit lucid, you can't do anything. If you try to move, you may think you are, or even see you are but in reality you haven't moved an inch. Fucking terrifying
My thing is that if my kids (or a kid I'm in charge of) shows fear and tells me we need to get leave, I'm leaving for the sole reason that they feel unsafe. I'll say okay and ask questions later, in a safe environment. Children just need to feel safe.
Why businessman like the one that build that mf mall don't understand one basic business rule "alive customers, are the best customers" (I know that ther's big moral point here too but guys like that businessman have no morals)
For the question about "If they knew it is bcoz of a terrorist attack, would they help the victims?" I think its possible coz I have seen so many real time videos covering the issues in p4l3st!ne they immediately trying to rescue and recover the bodies under the rubbles. The saddest part was they are now lacking of machines to remove the big parts of concretes. It was very devastating to see these situations.
47:14 FINALLY SOMEONE SIMILAR TO ME!!! I don’t know exactly what caused this fear but it was either finale destination or this video my uncle showed me of a women who caught stuck in one and died. People give me so much shit for my fear, I refuse to even go inside smalls because I don’t ever want to use one, I worked in a giant office building and for some reason they had escalators, elevators and the stairs and one day the elevator broke and all my coworkers who were coming in to ended up finding out my fear because my friend almost missed himself laughing that my fear was so bad I rather walk up 4 flights of stairs then use the escalator. People started asking me about it even people I didn’t know because it was a hilarious story that spread more quickly than any other office gossip. It’s been about 6 years since I used one and I’ve tried to but I chicken out and it makes me shake like a fucking chihuahua and I use both hands on one rail while in a sorta bent over position with my eyes closed tightly and o admit it’s so ridiculous looking it’s hilarious to even me. When my sister recorded me I saw how stupid and crazy I looked.
The only thing I never understood from the beginning of the story was, were the child and other people seeing ghosts of the future? Because it says that a bit after the ghosts tried to warn them the building collapsed, is that a thing?
The way I understand it is that it's like those movie scenes where the adults are there to shop and concentrated on the items. The kids are bored, so they're looking around and that's why they see what the adults don't.
I’m not a parent but I can only imagine that you know what genuine fear looks like on your own kids face. So based on that opinion I’d say that I would listen and believe them, kids are a bit more empathic then adults
What a tragic story. Found your channel through RottenMango. RIP to all the victims of that horribe tragedy. Also, why would you stack the shops on top of each other that high up? He was playing with the construction like Legos. Crazy....
38:57 each state has different construction requirements due to their location and weather. In California, brick houses aren’t allowed to be built anymore because of frequent earthquakes. The houses are built that can somehow withstand earthquakes. Yes, it’s more flammable, but it’s easier to get out of the house when fire starts, than brick houses falling from earthquakes. We don’t have a lot of rain and storms aren’t very rare. The reason why brick houses aren’t done in the tornado alley (states with a lot of tornadoes), is due to heavier debris when tornadoes know them down. Sorry, off topic from the video. 😅
I live in a country where supernatural folklore is a big part of out culture. If someone were to tell me something about a jumbie on their doorstep last night, I wouldn't really pay mind to it. But if my kid said something about an imaginary bloody man telling him to get out and when I tell him to stop joking around he's being deadass, best believe me and my kid fleeing the scene.
I shouldn't laugh but Seb going "it's too much" at a 4-5 story high mall makes me giggle cause I live by one in this small ass city... And this bitch is 7 stories high with 3 other basement levels opened to the public and two parking levels lower. So we talking 7 up and 5 down. Basically, the mall right next to me is the size this one originally had to be without adding the 5th floor was but with normal height ceilings. This bad boy has being up since the 80s and never had a incident. Is a sturdy little monster of a building. What I'm trying to say is that I'm laughing but I shouldn't because this shows how a good job looks like when the same type of building exist somewhere else, build right without cutting expenses, and is still up.
You talk a lot about "why tf is all this shit in one place, just build another mall". That's kind of the "appeal" for malls in asia, especially since cities are crowded, SO it becomes the urban equivalent of going to the park with the kids. That's why they have to be spaceous, aesthetic, and NOT just utilitarian. This ain't some small town in the USA, the space is super limited in the city. "No ones gonna spend that much time in a mall" Think of how much you can get done in 7-10 hrs, and how convenient it is to get ALL errands done in just ONE trip. Less walking, less driving, and you don't have to deal with the weather outside. You don't even need to leave the building for food! Each family member can go do their own thing and meet up for dinner and movies. Errands AND leisure, all in one place. It just makes sense!
58:51 Lesser pillars, lesser steel rods in pillars, pillars aren't safe with a sheet to spread the weight and can be punched through, extra floors, and the extra floor is at the toppest and is fucking restaurant floors and no balance, heavy ass air conditioner of 2 houses, heating floor on the toppest floor that is already heavier.
Bro I’ve got a shopping mall near my home, it’s the biggest mall in my country, it has 300 stores and I absolutely hate going to that mall, I always get lost, I want to grab one thing and I have to walk 10 minutes through the whole mall, I purchase 7 unnecessary things on the way, it’s crowded, the people are slow and annoying. If I drive somewhere I have to drive around that entire massive building which not only takes so much time, I also have to pay for that petrol. Big malls suck!
1:42:27 Easy answer: People in power are not stupid but greedy and reckless, when it comes to other people's safety and livelihood. They just don't care because all they see is numbers and profits, not the person behind that number.
To your comment about the mall having too much shops and just overkill... The overall layout of the mall is typical to Asian malls. We're all about efficiency and finding everything we need in one place. If the mall lacks what we need or does not have the things we want to see, then we're not gonna visit it no matter how close it is to where we live, go to work or school. Typically, malls in Asia, especially in the Philippines, have all the shops you can think of-attractions (kids' play space, a mini theme park, some even have a wholeass Kart track), shops, cinemas, bookstores, appliance centres, restaurants, parlor, etc. So, no. That was not too much. Malls are basically an attraction in Asia. And, yes, many customers basically spend most of their days inside a mall, especially on the weekends. However, most mall owners are not as idiotic, although as money loving, as the owner Sampoong.
I waited for your reaction to come out after seeing this one, then completely forgot Like twice Soo here I am without finishing the Rice Cooker 29:42 Four is unlucky but man but what about when you were _planning_ 29:50 they thought this was more convenient and I mean Oh you mean practical, not convenient 44:16 they explained why there's so much (I think you're asking bc you're pissed at the stupidity and not actually wondering Like having too/so much is the point) 47:23 idk about child saving mom, but I remember mom saving child Like shoving him towards a worker bc when they got to the top it started to collapse. They were going up bc her kid liked the escalator, so they were just going up and down for a bit 48:21 agreed on this though 1:08:30 Ten days? What kind of power saving mode 1:26:50 they If-- you went into that type of mode but that doesn't seem equal/similar situation With the few miracles mentioned here, they probably didn’t see anyone So unless it's figurative like theyre imagining it, it's hard to picture 2:04:32 well, no? 2:04:51 Sorry, it makes sense to me Not caring about their feelings. Caring about how their feelings affect business.
4:08 I don’t have a kid, but I have baby brothers and cousins. If any of them were to go “Hey I saw a bloody man and he said we have to leave” I’d dip out so fast and never come back.
Those sentences are insane. Seven years ONLY for all those innocent lives bruh like wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Update: It's crazy to think that if some of the victims hadn't been upper class important people then the Lee family might not have gotten any time in jail at all. Sickening bruh.
As for the question about kids, I feel like they see things (such as ghosts) because their soul(?) is new to the human realm, more sensitive which is why they can see things that adults cant. Plus kids don usually make up such stories without a reason, and faking being terrified at such a young age is hard too so why wouldn't I believe them. I dont really believe it but its fun to theorise since it seems to be a worldwide occurrence.
A story that really hits me, in addition to the children, was of a woman. She was in the mall, in the basement level, at a bakery. She went to pay, and realized her cards were missing. She freaked out, thinking they had been stolen. She ran out of the mall, and looked in her wallet. The cards were all there. Then the mall collapsed.
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Did she survive?
@@SP2C3_N3RDIt sounds like she was outside the mall when it collapsed so she got lucky
Divine intervention type shit right there
To the first question: Kids don’t always just say anything. You’re able to differentiate a story versus a real life event that happened to you. While kids say imaginations, they don’t just sprout up from nowhere. I would totally be walking away if my kid told me we need to leave in a worried voice because there’s no reason my kid would be telling us to leave unless something was happening. If they were smiling and telling me to leave or trying to be sneaky sounding definitely i’d be thinking otherwise. If my kid is seeing things we’re definitely getting tf out because spirits are real. The younger you are the more bad spirits prey on you.. once again we’re definitely getting out because there’s no reason my kid should be telling me to leave with that with a worried tone.
Yes exactly, its usually influenced by something that happened in their real life. People need to stop thinking kids are just dumb, if my kid was that urgent I would've left in a heartbeat.
Yep, I remember what I was like as a kid and this is 100% true
You sound kinda crazy at the end there but the first half I agree with. The second half, if my kid told me it sees a "ghost" I'd also be getting tf out too, not bc I believe see-through ppl are real but bc we need a therapist asap. Or a medical doctor.
@@Abii140I think making your child believe there’s something wrong with them for using their intuition/ imagination is arguably worse. Kids have amazing imaginations and it would be a shame to make them believe their imaginary friends or things they “see” aren’t normal, and they should hide it from you. Kids see shit, wether you want to believe it’s ghosts or an active imagination is up to you
Not even bad spirits... just spirits in general go to who can see them because they want to be seen
The Irony of it all, no matter the amount of lives lost from these - whether its sampoong, sewol of itaewon, they have not learn anything.
you're right. Not judging Korea but it is the fact.
they have way more money than sense
Mayhap
The rich never do.
Mall - Greed, Pride
Alley - Pride, Sloth, Wrath?
Ferry - Greed, Pride, Sloth
I'm a Pacific islander. We believe our ancestors still roam the land. If a kid said they saw a person, I would automatically believe the child, especially if it's a relative. All of my immediate family and their children have experienced something of the supernatural one way or another.
Sure Jan
Just quickly as a Psych student, yes you are right about malls with cold temps for two reasons, 1: you see it as a place specifically during hot seasons to go to as a place for cool temps, and 2: you won't register it but your body will naturally want to move more when you are cold to keep internally warm and hence seeing more of the mall (while also wanting stay there during warm days.) Hope this was a fun fact for anyone reading :)
children can see and sense things that adults are no longer open to. if my kid said that, id be getting the heck out!
Sure Jan
My dad actually went to Sampoong department store the day it collapsed. He went there to get something, made the purchase, and went back to his workplace. When he arrived, everyone was clapping and rejoicing. He was confused, and then someone told him that the department store collapsed soon after he left. I almost lost my dad back then.
He must have been really liked if everyone was that worried about him.
I was truly invested into the story. I watched this before, honestly never heard of it until i saw stephanie's video. It was truly amazing how stephanie creates her opening on this case and the way she does her story telling, felt like a movie in which i wished it was but unfortunately its a real life tragedy with real life people died in it. Truly heartwrenching, im happy you reacted on the case like this one. You made the storytelling 10 times even more better by your reaction.
I knew about this tragedy because there's a movie about it. It's a Korean movie. "Traces of Love" (Sampoong Mall Collapse).
You know your day Isn’t going to suck when Sebastine posts a rotten mango video
I was in my 20s when this happened. behind that mall is a set of apartment buildings. I was in one of those buildings visiting my uncle when that happened. knowing what happened and the fact that I went to that shopping centre many times still gives me shivers. around that same time was also the songsu bridge collapse. you should look that one up also. very sad.
My older sister was unfortunately one of those people that died in collapse and I remember seeing her face on the news and just crying my ass off. It hunts me all the time because I was abt 3 maybe 4 or 5 and it like a couple of days I remember waiting for her to come home and wonder why my mom would always cry and stare at the TV all day just for my mom to sit there and explain why my sister never came back to play with me. It really and I mean REALLY broke my heart to know that and especially at such a young age too. I probably been there twice.
@@riceyummy12 I’m sorry :(
@@riceyummy12I'm sorry for your loss:-(
He did make sacrifices to make the smaller columns! He sacrificed all those people...for money and aesthetics.
FOR FUCKING AESTHETICS YO WTF
@@Sebastine I don't agree with what he did. Some people want the convenience of everything in an single place often due to space or travel restrictions, zoning, and etc. Not to mention the area was a rich zone. A lot of other countries don't have as much space. I think he should've followed regulation. It's also why air travel one of the reasons why is also one of the safer methods of travel; safety = money.
And the department store still looked like sh!t though, then turned to sh!t...
I would leave if my child said something like that. It's not worth staying for me.
The story of the dad with his 3 daughters killed me.. my god
since i watched this episode before, I thought I would be tear free.... BUT HERE I AM IN TEARS AND ANGER!!!!!
35:51 this aged like milk ngl
I don't have a traumatic survivor guilt story but my mom did and she blamed me for her surviving. She worked at a family owned bar and the night i got to the town she lived in 3 of our family members were murdered. She was scheduled to work that night but since I came in she got off. It took her a long time to get over it and forgive me. Thankfully she did before she passed away this year.
that's so terrible i'm so sorry. i can't imagine what the weight of that grief is like and hope you're doing well ❤
@@personafanatic4597 I didn't know them well so the only traumatic part for me was my mom's anger and cleaning up the stuff that was at the scene at the time. I doubt I'll ever be able to handle raw or dried chicken again, especially if it's shredded, because it brings me back to that scene. We're all slowly healing from my mom's death. I'm a lot slower than others because I was POA so I had to make the call, all my medical knowledge and experience went out the window watching the end come for her.
Forgive you?!? I’m sorry what
@@chesiresays my mom was convinced that if she was there she could've saved everyone but she would've died with them. It was a hire for murder against 2 of them and the 3rd was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The murderer "unalived himself" in jail and we know who hired him but have no evidence so I'm letting the Lord deal with him and simply have nothing to do with him. In some ways I blame myself as well because something told me that no one should be at the bar that night but I didn't listen to it.
17:20 I think there’s a cultural thing attached to this like I think it’s stereotypical expectation that when you turn 30 or 31 in Korean age, that’s when you (maybe specifically women?) are anticipated to get married
It's always the fault of greedy people! In my country there is a similar case, the only difference is that it was a fire in a supermarket in the middle of Sunday, aprox 600 people inside. 360+ died, several missing, almost 200 injured and all because the owner of the place ordered the DOORS TO BE CLOSED to prevent people from leaving without paying, can you believe?
Wait… what do you mean? You’re going to have to expand because that doesn’t sound serious enough.
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 I think it meant the doors wouldn’t open unless someone went through your bag or something
I found the incident incase anyone wants to read. It's called Ycuá Bolaños supermarket fire.
"The doors within the complex were deliberately closed under the direction of the owners, Juan Pío Paiva and his son, Víctor Daniel, trapping people inside, in order to prevent people from fleeing with merchandise without paying for it." - Wikipedia
And for extra background:
"According to the defense attorney of the building's owner, the bakery and food court kitchen were not properly ventilated, which would cause smoke and gas to accumulate in the building. The structure also lacked a fire sprinkler system and the smoke detectors did not work." - Wikipedia
@@mistyrain8079 Yes, it was devastating, many people could have escaped if they had left the doors open. It took almost two hours to break the glass and some parts of the wall.
@@Oklahoma_is_me nah, nobody was there to check, they literally block the doors from the outside, the main entrance and the parking... and left the place
kids make up things yes, but if you notice your kid having a panic attack warning you to leave then listen to them...ive had my fair share of ghost moments, so if my kid tells me that he saw something THEN WE ARE LEAVING NOW
I love Stephanie for sharing the humanity in this story, I have now watched this video twice and I still bawl my eyes out, and I always will, she truly is someone who won't let history be forgotten or forgiven to those who watch her.
I'd heard a different story that the AC was working, but it had been turned off because these shed-size AC units were causing vibrations that were making the support columns crack because this building hadn't been built with 5 floors in mind, but 4. The 5th floor being added by a separate contractor and the AC units adding weight that the whole building wasn't rated for.
yes Stephanie did say that the AC was turned off that day
Isn't that what Stephanie said tho? Sorry I'm just confused😅
This made me mad.. HOW DO YOU NOT WANT 16 RODS BECAUSE OF ITS WIEGHT💀 you see how much stuff he had in that one building? y’all🤦🏾♀️ he not thinking about nobody else but himself smh🤦🏾♀️ I don’t even see why he even thought about building a store if you know you won’t have that much money😒🤦🏾♀️
“Mr beast please don’t be the antichrist” smh bro had one job
IKR? That hits different now lol.
If my child said something like that you best believe I'm dropping everything and getting out
That's what I'm saying, you get out
especially when he describes someone bleeding on the floor grabbing people?? even if that is imaginary im grabbing my kid and getting OUT
I really hate it, There is NO WAY for the people who make that much money to make it in a way that doesn't hurt people. It's so upsetting cuz how much more they could have made if they just built it to the best of their abilities, they'd still be making 400k a day in a mall that is still standing. I'm so bitter when I hear these stories. And stuff like this happens in America as well, it happens everywhere that greed runs rampant. I really get so angry. How many people were helped so much in the pandemic with only a little under $2k, greedy people are rich out of their mind, they could give away 2k to people every year and still live in luxury but they won't. They actively lobby our politicians to screw over the people so they can make a few more bucks. I hate it.
As a kid all I needed In mall was a music store, Spencer's, arcade, food court and movie theater.
I was once told by my step-father, after I lost my baby, that children 7 and under can see the unseen and are angels in the eyes of the Lord. I'm not religious but I believed him and still do. So, with that being said, if my young child told me that, I would have picked my child up and walked hastily out of the building without looking back. (I got chills when I heard that part. ugh)
I'm scared of going to the dentist due to childhood trauma. Because of Final Destination, I now lie on the dentist chair and try not to think of a fish miraculously appearing in the air above me and falling into my opened mouth.
47:00 my mom is the same way ! she has the fear of escalators now because of that movie.
This really breaks my heart because of what has been happening in Gaza, Palestine. Whole families under the rubble, +5000 children dying because of the occupation... It really breaks my heart 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Should of thought of that before they supported terrorists that have blatantly said they want to 'finish Hitler's job'. Whether you like it or not, history books will tell you that Jews have as much claim on the land as Palestinians. Perhaps even more so since they precede the Palestinians by a few mentions. Even documents and testimonies of the Roman Empire acknowledge the Kingdom of Judea but not Palestine. Palestine became a thing during the time of the Ottoman Empire which came afterwards.
Maybe if Palestinians didn't support terrorists who again, want to kill off the Jews, maybe people would take their plight a bit more serious. You don't get to attack towns and murder thousands of women and children. Displaying their naked, mutilated bodies in a sick parade with men cheering and saying 'they want more'. Then cry victim when the IDF comes in wanting revenge and justice. Have they gotten careless regarding Palestinian civilians? Yeah they have but they ultimately started this. Every time Israel has these massive responses against Gaza, it's never unprovoked. It's always after Hamas pulls off a terrorist attack that kills innocent Israelis.
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As a part of rescue team in my country, this just makes me so furious, to the point my chest felt so heavy and its hard to breathe. How can someone just so cassualy did those... disgusting things just to save some money.? And they didnt even try to fix it when they found what the problem was.? So easily endangered people's lives just for saving some money you wouldn't even use.? I hope that batsht old man is rooting in the deepest part of hell today.
The guilt and sorrow we felt every time we found another and another body from every disaster (either natural or human-made)... All those feelings, it's like they're physically chained and dragging you down, on top of the physical exhaustion. None of my teammates ever not shed tears when we were on the field. And seeing the family crying and screaming over their lost loved ones... There's nothing we can do but say I'm sorry, again, and again. In the past 7 years, I don't know how many times I felt so hopeless like all the things I've done all this time were just useless, and maybe I should just give up.
Sebastine: Why are you saving so much money? What are you doing with all this money? You're not building another mall.
Me: The guy is literally Mr. Krabbs.
This is one of the biggist tradgerdy in Korea. While I can't forget the news of Sewol ferry, My parents says they can't forget the news of that Sampoong Mall.
After videos like that "eat the rich" really sounds sooooo good lmao
hey, seb!
stephanie just released a rotten mango video about the burning sun scandal that seungri from bigbang and other korean celebs were involved in. since it's related to kpop and one of the biggest scandals in kpop history, i think it'd be really interesting for you to watch!
I knew about this incident because of Reply 1994, and that always gave me so much goosebumps. then i had read up a bit on it, and when finally i saw this video and got the whole story i still cant believe like how can people do such things and he wanted to save money he had so much money like whaaat. I feel so bad for all the people affected by this. This is so sad :'(
I think the idea of the mall was good. Having a one stop shop is amazing and I don't see why anyone would be against having one. The thing that makes it bad in this case, was the fact that it wasn't made properly. Had this person been more focused on making it safe instead of trying to cut costs, everyone would love it. This guy deserves everything bad that comes to him. Also that part about rich people needing to spend their money to help other people, everyone should be able to spend their money the way that they want to. The world shouldnt be relying on rich people to help them but the government should be doing it. Instead of the government spending money on useless things that dont help anyone, they should think about the people in their country and better ways to help them.
Alot of mall in Asia is like that, one stop shop is really popular, the whole family can enjoy their time, mom/dad went grocery shopping while kids do tutoring, barber, eye check, cake/ice cream shop, pick new furniture/home decor, eat together when done in food court or many restaurants provided also car being wash in parking structure in car service area. Its a great idea. However like you said, the owner cut cost and prefer profit over the safety of people, very disgusting.
Also agree, why wait for hand out from rich people, you can choose to study diligently, get good job, do smart investing, self-made should be the way for anyone. Once you are successful then you can CHOOSE to help out not force to give out. You want to be rich, work for it.
I'm only 20 mins in and the first time I watched this case I remember thinking that from the title it was going to be about a mass shooting. I had absolutely NO IDEA what it was gonna entail. This tragedy is one of the cases that's stood out to me because of how such a mundane environment like a mall could end up crushing, trapping, and cause so many senseless PREVENTABLE deaths 😭😭😭 It's a different kind of terror and horror with the cases about an insane amount of people losing their lives all because the freaking structure and foundation of the building, or even the boat / ferry they're in, isn't remotely safe. Hearing the accounts of the survivors was so heartbreaking.
4:22 I would hope I would leave and take them away from this please.
Like this is so gross this man wanted to save money other then making a safe place for family and other people. He seems like he didn’t care at all. Like wtf. I was so saddened by the deaths. It is so sad of many people died and just so sad and awful.
I have another villain to the story. The first construction team that was fired and didnt report the building when it added a fifth floor
You think it's that simple? They probably tried but were either ignored or threatened by Lee.
That collapse reminds me of the Rana Plaza building that collapsed burying numerous workers for the fashion industry.
That building had also another storey added on too, abd all the heavy sewing machines and bulks of fabric made it more unstable.
Help me again, i just........im baffled that this is just wild.... To ignore LITERAL signs the building is awful, to cheap out on construction, to not give a damn..... Rich people are a blemish to the world
Right, but only the arrogant, greedy, and snobbish rich people are the blemish to the world, i dont like when the majority like the good or humble beginnings type of rich people are suffering by being associated to to the bad ones.
literally Lee is actually so dumb for not listening to the ACTUAL people building the building and just continuing to make obviously bad decisions that affected a bunch of people. it was all his fault.
i was visiting Korea when this happened . ( Before Nobody Cared about Korea ) Was All over the News and showed all the views from the chopper . it was horrendous
46:00 that is also almost every mall in Indonesia 😂😂 but only the half of the building. The office part is usually separated.
If my kid says "we need to leave because there's a bleeding man that you can't see telling us to go away" I'm already halfway out the door nope to that.
what I don’t understand is how he thought having an unsafe building, that could collapse any second would make him more money/ save him more money, then if he spent a couple thousand more to make it safe so it wouldn’t collapse. If it collapsed he’d lose crazy amounts of money 💀 he he made it safe he could of had it for years and years and made 100x time more money then he made
I always believe kids, my family is very religious and we fully believe in those gifts, and in so many occasions my siblings and I, mostly me, were able to do things that are unexplainable, like, there was this time where I saw "someone" besides my mom's car trunk, left side to be more specific, and after that I started to get so anxious about her going to work that night, I managed to tell her to be careful with the trunk door, a few hours after she went to work, she called home and asked if someone could go and get her because the trunk door fell on her head and gave her a concussion and 10 stitches, what happened was, the hydraulic suspension that kept the door open, the left one, broke. Thankfully, she heard me, she usually don't pay attention to that door, but she had her hand ready to catch the door, if she hadn't her hand like that, the door could had hit the back of her neck. She fixed that thing and, seven years later, it never happened again, she still have that car, but she is very careful with that door, she doesn't use the trunk if she is alone and when she's with someone, she ask them to hold the door for her.
Sorry for those who think this story is lame, but is because the others I have are much more personal and I don't think my family would want this on the internet.
As an African I swear I'd listen. Other African who have lived in Africa should know this... about black magic and children seeing things especially in the rural areas
I first heard about this from Move to Heaven. 😢😢 this is such a sad sad historical event. I hope those souls can somehow rest in peace. 😢😢
never thought I would hear “mr beast please don’t be the anti christ” in a seb video
37:12 you are so right in the money right there LMAOOOO youre so getting good at figuring out the plot already and it happened in so many videos already 🤣
Seb, the bottom 2 cases that popped up after Stephanie's video ended with will make you boil in rage
Hey thank you for listening (reading… 🤔) the other comments asking for reacting to the mall rotten mango video! I’ve watched it a couple of times by now.
What a great start to my day !!
I'll be watching this on my breaks and lunch of the day 🎉
I feel the same way with hearing anything from a child. I might listen to it. I literally hate going to the mall now unless it’s to go to the Barnes and noble and the movies. I feel like stores now don’t have anything for plus size. It’s made for standard sizes. Even if you go to some stores they have a corner that’s very unorganized. I learned about the temperature settings in fashion school
I don't have that kind of survival guilt but I did have survival guilt for surviving domestic violence when most women in that same situation have lost their lives. I almost died 3 times by hands of a man that said he loved me earlier that day....I don't know how I survived but not only did I survive I still see good in people and have love in my heart for others
Just started the video and I wanted to answer the questions real quick. I watched the mall one a while back and was also sort of confused at the beginning hearing about only the kids seeing the bloody people. I personally do believe in spirits and it's said that with kids the younger they are the more naturally tuned in they'll be to the spirit world and to things that adults don't believe in. This is because children still have their innocence and unwavering belief whereas adults become skeptical about the unknown as they get older. Kids oftentimes won't really question what they're seeing so that's why I think it was mostly kids that had seen those people because I'm guessing they'd already passed away. This is also why I think many adults believe their kids just have a vivid imagination when they're told about "imaginary friends." I think a lot of the time those friends may be spirits that they're interacting with. Also not all spirits are bad or negative. They can range from neutral, good, or malicious and a lot of them don't even realize that they've passed away which is quite sad. So if I ever heard a kid tell me we need to leave and it's because they're describing and trying to warn me about something horrific that I'm not able to see I would definitely get out!
"shoutout to him tho, if he aint do nothin bad"
OHH SEB JUST YOU WAITT
10:11 as a european this shit is absolutely wild to me
Same as American houses made out of paper 💀
i remember watching a kdrama about this i was so invested plus in move to heaven (kdrama) the ml father was involved with this accident
this story is actually insane i feel so bad for everyone that was involved and what happened. ❤rip to everyone that didn't make it..
Pause i just found out your from the DMV too. S/O the DMV🤗
Liked you before but we from the same place now you get extra points😂😂
I absolutely loathe being in malls now after being in them every weekend, day off from school, or holidays off. You will not catch me at Dulles, Tysons, Pentagon City etc.
Keep up the good work though! Found you from watching Stephanie over the years and I love the commentary. Its all the same things i say to myself while watching lol
24:50 I think civilians would for sure still try to help, as the civilians tried to help with the ferry incident too but were stopped by the government.
I’m iffy on the government because in the other incident that we looked out where the government were really slow, it was because the government were involved in the incident happening in the first place, so not helping was either to cover their own backs or not acknowledge their part in the problem. Like I think I remember that the gov had some stake in the ferry overloading, and for the incident where everyone was stuck in an alley during Halloween, all the policemen and other forces that should have been there were at like the presidents house cuz the prez chose to stay at home. Maybe since they didn’t have a part in this they might have still helped.
I hope someday you and Stephanie make a collab, do a mukbang as she tells a story, then you and Mr. Mangobutt reacts to it. I seriously enjoy your reaction because you seem so genuine that i am willing to watch a two hour long video of you reacting even though I’ve seen this story from Stephanie’s channel.
I saw a 2 story house get done from pouring the concrete to the the external being done in less than 24 hrs. No thank you, I'll supervise my house being built on my own lol.
Based on personal experience if my daughter said something like this to me I'd definitely listen.. rip to everyone who lost their lives
24:45 In reguards to ordinary citizens, since a lot of them were running away BECAUSE they thought it was a terrorist attack, I like to think that more of them would’ve helped if they didn’t think it was.
54:30 and the customer is God in Japan and Korea. North and South
I've watched final destination too. Seb same!
Capitalism always likes more money. There's never enough 🙄
2:05:19 exactly
I love the way seb said idiot 😂😂
I've hallucinated once before when i had a fever. I was in so much pain, i felt my whole body was burning and i couldn't tell what was real or not.
I was disoriented, i thought i was in ancient china with a fire demon in me and i was getting exorcised. My inner thoughts even had me thinking in old mannerisms. Like a poet.
It was not fun.
I think hallucinations is less for to lessen the pain. And more that the body lacks the means to understand what is happening. Lack of oxygen or water deprives your body of their basic needs, especially the brain.
I can't imagine what it was like trapped in there hallucinating. Scared, confused, and not being fully aware of your own upcoming demise.
There were probably people hallucinating, too far gone to register rescuers nearby, too far gone to hear them or even think they were real that you don't answer to not waste energy and oxygen.
Hallucinating is like a nightmare you can't get out of. Because even if you're a bit lucid, you can't do anything. If you try to move, you may think you are, or even see you are but in reality you haven't moved an inch.
Fucking terrifying
My thing is that if my kids (or a kid I'm in charge of) shows fear and tells me we need to get leave, I'm leaving for the sole reason that they feel unsafe. I'll say okay and ask questions later, in a safe environment. Children just need to feel safe.
I love malls because of the toy/book stores and the food court even as a nearly 18yr old
Why businessman like the one that build that mf mall don't understand one basic business rule "alive customers, are the best customers"
(I know that ther's big moral point here too but guys like that businessman have no morals)
They don't care about customers but what worries me too are the staff working there.
35:54 aged like milk
For the question about "If they knew it is bcoz of a terrorist attack, would they help the victims?" I think its possible coz I have seen so many real time videos covering the issues in p4l3st!ne they immediately trying to rescue and recover the bodies under the rubbles. The saddest part was they are now lacking of machines to remove the big parts of concretes. It was very devastating to see these situations.
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FINALLY SOMEONE SIMILAR TO ME!!!
I don’t know exactly what caused this fear but it was either finale destination or this video my uncle showed me of a women who caught stuck in one and died.
People give me so much shit for my fear, I refuse to even go inside smalls because I don’t ever want to use one, I worked in a giant office building and for some reason they had escalators, elevators and the stairs and one day the elevator broke and all my coworkers who were coming in to ended up finding out my fear because my friend almost missed himself laughing that my fear was so bad I rather walk up 4 flights of stairs then use the escalator. People started asking me about it even people I didn’t know because it was a hilarious story that spread more quickly than any other office gossip.
It’s been about 6 years since I used one and I’ve tried to but I chicken out and it makes me shake like a fucking chihuahua and I use both hands on one rail while in a sorta bent over position with my eyes closed tightly and o admit it’s so ridiculous looking it’s hilarious to even me. When my sister recorded me I saw how stupid and crazy I looked.
2:07:00 bro you paused it when it was already done like what? 😂🤣
The only thing I never understood from the beginning of the story was, were the child and other people seeing ghosts of the future? Because it says that a bit after the ghosts tried to warn them the building collapsed, is that a thing?
The way I understand it is that it's like those movie scenes where the adults are there to shop and concentrated on the items. The kids are bored, so they're looking around and that's why they see what the adults don't.
I’m not a parent but I can only imagine that you know what genuine fear looks like on your own kids face. So based on that opinion I’d say that I would listen and believe them, kids are a bit more empathic then adults
What a tragic story. Found your channel through RottenMango. RIP to all the victims of that horribe tragedy. Also, why would you stack the shops on top of each other that high up? He was playing with the construction like Legos. Crazy....
as a civil engineering student, this case is crazy to me
53:59 Grabbed my last can of cider from the fridge so I can join you.
38:57 each state has different construction requirements due to their location and weather. In California, brick houses aren’t allowed to be built anymore because of frequent earthquakes. The houses are built that can somehow withstand earthquakes. Yes, it’s more flammable, but it’s easier to get out of the house when fire starts, than brick houses falling from earthquakes. We don’t have a lot of rain and storms aren’t very rare. The reason why brick houses aren’t done in the tornado alley (states with a lot of tornadoes), is due to heavier debris when tornadoes know them down. Sorry, off topic from the video. 😅
I live in a country where supernatural folklore is a big part of out culture. If someone were to tell me something about a jumbie on their doorstep last night, I wouldn't really pay mind to it. But if my kid said something about an imaginary bloody man telling him to get out and when I tell him to stop joking around he's being deadass, best believe me and my kid fleeing the scene.
I shouldn't laugh but Seb going "it's too much" at a 4-5 story high mall makes me giggle cause I live by one in this small ass city... And this bitch is 7 stories high with 3 other basement levels opened to the public and two parking levels lower. So we talking 7 up and 5 down.
Basically, the mall right next to me is the size this one originally had to be without adding the 5th floor was but with normal height ceilings. This bad boy has being up since the 80s and never had a incident. Is a sturdy little monster of a building.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm laughing but I shouldn't because this shows how a good job looks like when the same type of building exist somewhere else, build right without cutting expenses, and is still up.
You talk a lot about "why tf is all this shit in one place, just build another mall". That's kind of the "appeal" for malls in asia, especially since cities are crowded, SO it becomes the urban equivalent of going to the park with the kids. That's why they have to be spaceous, aesthetic, and NOT just utilitarian. This ain't some small town in the USA, the space is super limited in the city.
"No ones gonna spend that much time in a mall"
Think of how much you can get done in 7-10 hrs, and how convenient it is to get ALL errands done in just ONE trip. Less walking, less driving, and you don't have to deal with the weather outside. You don't even need to leave the building for food! Each family member can go do their own thing and meet up for dinner and movies. Errands AND leisure, all in one place. It just makes sense!
58:51 Lesser pillars, lesser steel rods in pillars, pillars aren't safe with a sheet to spread the weight and can be punched through, extra floors, and the extra floor is at the toppest and is fucking restaurant floors and no balance, heavy ass air conditioner of 2 houses, heating floor on the toppest floor that is already heavier.
I was so shocked that supermarkets in malls aren’t common to yall
1:44 there is no music
Bro I’ve got a shopping mall near my home, it’s the biggest mall in my country, it has 300 stores and I absolutely hate going to that mall, I always get lost, I want to grab one thing and I have to walk 10 minutes through the whole mall, I purchase 7 unnecessary things on the way, it’s crowded, the people are slow and annoying. If I drive somewhere I have to drive around that entire massive building which not only takes so much time, I also have to pay for that petrol. Big malls suck!
1:42:27 Easy answer: People in power are not stupid but greedy and reckless, when it comes to other people's safety and livelihood.
They just don't care because all they see is numbers and profits, not the person behind that number.
Bro my boss will stressed out if he have this type of client😂 45:29
To your comment about the mall having too much shops and just overkill... The overall layout of the mall is typical to Asian malls. We're all about efficiency and finding everything we need in one place. If the mall lacks what we need or does not have the things we want to see, then we're not gonna visit it no matter how close it is to where we live, go to work or school. Typically, malls in Asia, especially in the Philippines, have all the shops you can think of-attractions (kids' play space, a mini theme park, some even have a wholeass Kart track), shops, cinemas, bookstores, appliance centres, restaurants, parlor, etc. So, no. That was not too much. Malls are basically an attraction in Asia. And, yes, many customers basically spend most of their days inside a mall, especially on the weekends. However, most mall owners are not as idiotic, although as money loving, as the owner Sampoong.
안녕. Thank yoy for covering this.
I waited for your reaction to come out after seeing this one, then completely forgot
Like twice
Soo here I am without finishing the Rice Cooker
29:42 Four is unlucky but man but what about when you were _planning_
29:50 they thought this was more convenient and I mean
Oh you mean practical, not convenient
44:16 they explained why there's so much
(I think you're asking bc you're pissed at the stupidity and not actually wondering
Like having too/so much is the point)
47:23 idk about child saving mom, but I remember mom saving child
Like shoving him towards a worker bc when they got to the top it started to collapse.
They were going up bc her kid liked the escalator, so they were just going up and down for a bit
48:21 agreed on this though
1:08:30 Ten days? What kind of power saving mode
1:26:50 they
If-- you went into that type of mode but that doesn't seem equal/similar situation
With the few miracles mentioned here, they probably didn’t see anyone
So unless it's figurative like theyre imagining it, it's hard to picture
2:04:32 well, no?
2:04:51 Sorry, it makes sense to me
Not caring about their feelings. Caring about how their feelings affect business.
10 days? I thought the same. I can't believe nobody tried calling their beloved ones earlier.
4:08
I don’t have a kid, but I have baby brothers and cousins. If any of them were to go “Hey I saw a bloody man and he said we have to leave” I’d dip out so fast and never come back.
Those sentences are insane. Seven years ONLY for all those innocent lives bruh like wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Update: It's crazy to think that if some of the victims hadn't been upper class important people then the Lee family might not have gotten any time in jail at all. Sickening bruh.
As for the question about kids, I feel like they see things (such as ghosts) because their soul(?) is new to the human realm, more sensitive which is why they can see things that adults cant. Plus kids don usually make up such stories without a reason, and faking being terrified at such a young age is hard too so why wouldn't I believe them.
I dont really believe it but its fun to theorise since it seems to be a worldwide occurrence.
Sure Jan 4:50
I watched this and have been waitingf, but frfr. when a kid tells you something, they ain't kidding. ya gotta go.