To watch this entire thrilling series, only to watch someone sabotage another players chance of winning finals, especially on an alternative account. Is down right saddening, first time watching RISK as a tournament. Loved seeing your entire series on it Pete, look forward to catching many more of your videos in the future. Hopefully, the person who was responsible for that travesty gets removed from the community. Otherwise, fantastic tournament to yourself on a semi-finals finish, and congratulations to Cowboy on 3 consecutive finals!
It's unbelievable isn't it. Upside is that alt accounts are no longer allowed so hopefully it cuts down on had behaviour. And for what it's worth I don't think the alt was the person they suspected because I can't believe he would be that big of a scumbag.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy So nobody knows for sure who it was, too bad. I was hoping to hear that player, their motivation for being such a *#*%. Cowboy handled it well all in all tho.
Never knew about Risk before. TH-cam recommended your round one of this tournament, I discovered the Risk, played a bit and now finished watching your whole FFA 2022 Winter tournament series. My main suggestion would be to refer to players by colors (Orange, White) instead of names, because as a non-pro, it's hard to know who you refer to in 95% of cases. Or alternatively, add (in post-processing) 6 simple static text labels with nicknames on the right part of the screen.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy I meant that you know players, but a lot of viewers don't. Text labels with nicknames would be super helpful:) Great videos otherwise! I rarely watch gameplays, but I found these interesting
I've been watching this from the perspective of someone who plays Diplomacy tournaments, and even by the standards of that game - which is kind of notoriously harsh and emotional - it was a bit shocking to watch someone tank their position just to make sure another player didn't win. Emotions definitely play into these things, and certainly sometimes in the end game a player basically can't win and is forced to become the kingmaker. But in 25 years of board game tournaments I'm not sure I've ever seen anything quite as blatant as in this game. I'm not a good risk player, so maybe I'm missing some nuance, but this didn't seem subtle! 😂 Anyway, great stream. Hope to catch more of this!
It was very upsetting. What a waste of hundreds of people's time. Im glad that alt accounts aren't allowed in this tournament anymore so if someone wanted to throw in the finals the would have to do it publicly at the very least.
Got recommended, and doesnt regret the watch. Quite entertaining. WIll that AlvesOliviera dude get banned for future tournaments? 100% unsportsmanlike conduct
I would hope players play to win. But I am not in control of that nor do I think we could legislate it in the rules. What I do hope to see is the end of allowing alt accounts in the tournaments so that at least there would be public reputation cost to ones actions.
Well that isn’t his main account so he could be a very public figure that no one would expect. Because of that they could ban that alt but most likely would never be able to ban his main
I first played risk in college 39 years ago, was invited by two people sitting in the pit. they proceeded to play as allies against me. I never accepted an invite from them again but did enjoy many games of it. This version seems much more exciting and challenging than our simple board game, still the hands-on approach had its own benefits.
That was an hour well spent. Thanks again Pete! Spud and his team, along with SMG, sure know how to put on a professional FFA tournament. Being new to all this, I think I got in the way about a half dozen times. But I learned a lot, and I had a fun and exciting time. My admiration goes out to all who were lucky enough to be involved. See you all on the field! kegger21
Everyone talking about the standoff at the beginning, what about the really, really bonehead play from Tim at the end? Not only did he give up his bonus (He really decided that moving a couple troops from the middle of nowhere to his big stack, while leaving a 1 guard at the other end of his bonuses was a good move?) he also WAY over extended the next round which meant he had literally nothing to defend with.
I think choosing a zombie game on a terribly designed map for finals between players is a bad move. There's too much randomness involved with Zombie AI here. It should have been a 5 player world map ffa.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Especially the Zombie turn in 44:18, where it could just ravage through all purple territory,but decided not to, completely changed the outcome of the game. It was so random. And there is probably many more random Zombie decisions like that one in this match alone, but we just didn't notice the effects they have later.
What a fun journey from the TH-cam algorithm! Plan on watching more of your content this series was great! :) Honestly feel bad for cowboy, but hopefully hes had go games since then been a long time since this video came out!
The cosmic cowboy and AlvesOlivira showdown was so annoying to watch it just ruined the game for both of them and gave the win to Tim. AlvesOlivira was definitely in the wrong and should have backed off and gone for Sector E giving cowboy Sector D allowing them both a chance to win and slowdown Tim's expansion.
It was upsetting. To know that I tried as hard as I did this season only to lose to a player who is not playing to win makes me frustrated. All I can say to that is that not playing to win is still a viable strategy if you are trying to accomplish other goals.
i am not familiar with who won the last tournament but i suspect olivira just really wanted to play the role of spoiler and make sure we had a different champion this time.
@@andrewwashburn6080 for reference I'm the only player to ever make 3 finals in a row. And i won my first ever tournament. So he didn't want me getting more trophies i guess!
@@CosmicCowboyYT really impressive. i hope you continue to have success in future tournaments,. i am usually kind of sympathetic to spoilers as i dont like anyone person dominating any given competition. but this kind of spoiling is so skill less that it leaves me kind of disgusted instead.
@@andrewwashburn6080 for sure. Personally this is my opinion on how a player should "spoil" the tournament. If they win i lose, correct? So given this. Would it not be more skilled, sportsmanlike AND would feel great to actually just win instead of ruin us both pointlessly. The fact that they did not even attempt to do well is pretty pathetic imo
12:30 it Starts, Ready to finish this tournament! 33:55 That was a sad first 20 minutes, the really not-trying-to-win plays by yellow just hamstrung red. Lead to both of their deaths, so weird. 48:19 the reversal we saw was wild! 1:00:00 the post game talk!
Very entertaining tourney episodes! I do generally agree alts in tourneys feel wrong, and that player specifically griefing another's game instead of playing to win isn't very okay but I enjoyed the comentary. Glad you made it to semi-finals, that was a wild ride! Do you have any tourneys/video series you're particularly proud of/find entertaining that I should watch now that I've finished this one? 👀
Great tournament, I feel for the guy tho, it's like me playing against novices and losing half the time because of such idiots. Very hard to climb rank when ppl do that to you
Just subscribed I don't play this game but I like your videos you can even make Tetris fun bro you have a natural talent to keep people engaged/fun/watching keep it up.
Bad the game ended with one player not knowing the game and another knocked out by an alt (old rivalry). I really like the many "new" maps, I just dont get why they are made so unclear - where to cross etc.
This was an awful display of bad sportsmanship. I can't believe it happened in our community and I would do everything on my power to keep it from happening again
Did you guys ever do the after show breakdown? Can't easily find a link? Did yellow ever give a reasonable explanation?Seems just reading your screen,Pete, at the end of this video, he seems he thought he had a valid excuse for his play ...and now I'm wondering if Cowboy cud have gone down and left and taken that bonus ( the area that purple 💜 took it's second bonus in ..?!?
Whens the mic and Audio interface upgrades? Ik you make that bread now, no shame but my ears the static most likely the AI. Not stopping me from watching fs I love your attitude.
No idea why this got recommended to me. Was interested to watch & learn, but man the vindictive play by Alves made me question the competitive integrity of the game. Add to that, hearing about alts being allowed and the one commentator knowing who they are and not being allowed to disclose it. I lost interest and stopped watching afterwards. Have to agree with Pete's statement on alts, and wish that we had seen all players trying to win.
The existence of alts was a misstep IMO that occurred before I was a part of this community and has now been grandfathered in. I'm doing what I can to encourage players to act with integrity and fairness.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Good luck to you! Obviously it's going to always be a niche competitive scene to some extent, but integrity & fairness can only help it flourish. There's certainly a large number of people who have fond memories of Risk from which to potentially draw interest.
Unfortunate that the game was ruined by one player... Quite the toxic mentality, and if people know who's alt that is, they should absolutely be barred from at least a year of tournaments, if not more. Thanks for the video though!
@@TheKillPeteStrategy but then how did Tim get to finals and you didn't? You had 81 point prior to semis, he had 77 and he got 1 bounty during semis. And if I understand the rules correctly you finished on the same position in semis after green getting to 70%. Is the bounty worth more in semis than in was in previous rounds, 3 points?
@@Max_Griswald There were mistakes - I'm not sure it was sloppy play. It's easy to make mistakes in the moment when you only have 60 seconds to take your turn.
who was the yellow player??? that was so damn lame man... for the players and the viewers, especially in the finals.. He shouldnt be allowed to maliciously block another player like that. Honestly i dont think he should even be able to compete after that lol. Although i did just start watching risk vids about a week ago so I cant really talk hahaha (also just realized there are a billion other comments like this..... sorry Pete hahah)
I agree he shouldn't. It was unbelievably scummy and I used this example to help get alt accounts out of Risk competition forever. Personally I don't believe the rumor of who it was because I can't imagine they would be that shitty.
If you have a problem with players metagaming (e.g. making it their objective to kill another player, rather than to win) then maybe don't let the players know who each other are?
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Ahhh, oh that makes sense. Now I understand the whole conflict better. Thanks for explaining! :) really like watching your videos.
To watch this entire thrilling series, only to watch someone sabotage another players chance of winning finals, especially on an alternative account. Is down right saddening, first time watching RISK as a tournament. Loved seeing your entire series on it Pete, look forward to catching many more of your videos in the future. Hopefully, the person who was responsible for that travesty gets removed from the community. Otherwise, fantastic tournament to yourself on a semi-finals finish, and congratulations to Cowboy on 3 consecutive finals!
It's unbelievable isn't it.
Upside is that alt accounts are no longer allowed so hopefully it cuts down on had behaviour.
And for what it's worth I don't think the alt was the person they suspected because I can't believe he would be that big of a scumbag.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy So nobody knows for sure who it was, too bad. I was hoping to hear that player, their motivation for being such a *#*%. Cowboy handled it well all in all tho.
Spoiler at the top... =(
I LOVED IT!! DIRTY BACKSTABBING SABOTAGE IS EXACTLY THE GAMEPLAY I'M INTERESTED IN
I just finished watching this series and that was disgusting to see the guy just sabotage their chances of winning.
Never knew about Risk before. TH-cam recommended your round one of this tournament, I discovered the Risk, played a bit and now finished watching your whole FFA 2022 Winter tournament series.
My main suggestion would be to refer to players by colors (Orange, White) instead of names, because as a non-pro, it's hard to know who you refer to in 95% of cases.
Or alternatively, add (in post-processing) 6 simple static text labels with nicknames on the right part of the screen.
I do the colours when I'm playing ranked. In tournaments (because I tend to know the players) I do it by name.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy I meant that you know players, but a lot of viewers don't. Text labels with nicknames would be super helpful:)
Great videos otherwise!
I rarely watch gameplays, but I found these interesting
@@nnslife took me some time to figure out, but the names of each player show up when it's their turn
@@Gr33nPhoenix Oh, indeed, but it's so short that I'd still say always having static labels on the right would be much more helpful
I agree with this suggestion, either one or both would be great. I do love these videos as well.
I've been watching this from the perspective of someone who plays Diplomacy tournaments, and even by the standards of that game - which is kind of notoriously harsh and emotional - it was a bit shocking to watch someone tank their position just to make sure another player didn't win.
Emotions definitely play into these things, and certainly sometimes in the end game a player basically can't win and is forced to become the kingmaker. But in 25 years of board game tournaments I'm not sure I've ever seen anything quite as blatant as in this game. I'm not a good risk player, so maybe I'm missing some nuance, but this didn't seem subtle! 😂
Anyway, great stream. Hope to catch more of this!
It was very upsetting. What a waste of hundreds of people's time.
Im glad that alt accounts aren't allowed in this tournament anymore so if someone wanted to throw in the finals the would have to do it publicly at the very least.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy That's such a huge relief, honestly. The contestants should always be held accountable for their actions.
Got recommended, and doesnt regret the watch. Quite entertaining. WIll that AlvesOliviera dude get banned for future tournaments? 100% unsportsmanlike conduct
I would hope players play to win.
But I am not in control of that nor do I think we could legislate it in the rules.
What I do hope to see is the end of allowing alt accounts in the tournaments so that at least there would be public reputation cost to ones actions.
If I have history with someone, I'd do the same thing. The only thing that I disagree with is using an alt account to hide behind.
Well that isn’t his main account so he could be a very public figure that no one would expect. Because of that they could ban that alt but most likely would never be able to ban his main
Loving commentary on this match by two proper experts. Felt like I was watching a football match. Brilliant
I agree. Very good commentary from Pete and Stove
This comment made my day and I read it out to Stove on stream.
Cheers! So glad you enjoyed the show.
I first played risk in college 39 years ago, was invited by two people sitting in the pit. they proceeded to play as allies against me. I never accepted an invite from them again but did enjoy many games of it. This version seems much more exciting and challenging than our simple board game, still the hands-on approach had its own benefits.
That was an hour well spent. Thanks again Pete!
Spud and his team, along with SMG, sure know how to put on a professional FFA tournament. Being new to all this, I think I got in the way about a half dozen times. But I learned a lot, and I had a fun and exciting time. My admiration goes out to all who were lucky enough to be involved.
See you all on the field!
kegger21
Nobody is in the way man!
Welcome to the community. I'm glad you had fun and I hope you're ready for battle next season.
Everyone talking about the standoff at the beginning, what about the really, really bonehead play from Tim at the end? Not only did he give up his bonus (He really decided that moving a couple troops from the middle of nowhere to his big stack, while leaving a 1 guard at the other end of his bonuses was a good move?) he also WAY over extended the next round which meant he had literally nothing to defend with.
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I think choosing a zombie game on a terribly designed map for finals between players is a bad move. There's too much randomness involved with Zombie AI here. It should have been a 5 player world map ffa.
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@@TheKillPeteStrategy Especially the Zombie turn in 44:18, where it could just ravage through all purple territory,but decided not to, completely changed the outcome of the game. It was so random. And there is probably many more random Zombie decisions like that one in this match alone, but we just didn't notice the effects they have later.
agreed! There's also something quite specieal about the original world map :,) just feels more epic
Not guarding the 1 against the zombies was a major mistake, no idea why a 2 on a 30-something was more important to him
What a fun journey from the TH-cam algorithm! Plan on watching more of your content this series was great! :) Honestly feel bad for cowboy, but hopefully hes had go games since then been a long time since this video came out!
I felt bad for him too
Watched this whole Tournament, downloaded the game just now. I will be playing vs you one day :D
Good stuff brotha
Been watching a lot of your videos. Love your thoughtfulness on these games. Thanks for the entertainment.
You're welcome Bryce! Glad you enjoyed the show.
The cosmic cowboy and AlvesOlivira showdown was so annoying to watch it just ruined the game for both of them and gave the win to Tim. AlvesOlivira was definitely in the wrong and should have backed off and gone for Sector E giving cowboy Sector D allowing them both a chance to win and slowdown Tim's expansion.
It was upsetting.
To know that I tried as hard as I did this season only to lose to a player who is not playing to win makes me frustrated. All I can say to that is that not playing to win is still a viable strategy if you are trying to accomplish other goals.
i am not familiar with who won the last tournament but i suspect olivira just really wanted to play the role of spoiler and make sure we had a different champion this time.
@@andrewwashburn6080 for reference I'm the only player to ever make 3 finals in a row. And i won my first ever tournament. So he didn't want me getting more trophies i guess!
@@CosmicCowboyYT really impressive. i hope you continue to have success in future tournaments,.
i am usually kind of sympathetic to spoilers as i dont like anyone person dominating any given competition. but this kind of spoiling is so skill less that it leaves me kind of disgusted instead.
@@andrewwashburn6080 for sure.
Personally this is my opinion on how a player should "spoil" the tournament. If they win i lose, correct?
So given this. Would it not be more skilled, sportsmanlike AND would feel great to actually just win instead of ruin us both pointlessly. The fact that they did not even attempt to do well is pretty pathetic imo
For anyone wanting the game starts at 12:30
Thanks Dragon!
12:30 it Starts, Ready to finish this tournament!
33:55 That was a sad first 20 minutes, the really not-trying-to-win plays by yellow just hamstrung red. Lead to both of their deaths, so weird.
48:19 the reversal we saw was wild!
1:00:00 the post game talk!
Very entertaining tourney episodes! I do generally agree alts in tourneys feel wrong, and that player specifically griefing another's game instead of playing to win isn't very okay but I enjoyed the comentary. Glad you made it to semi-finals, that was a wild ride!
Do you have any tourneys/video series you're particularly proud of/find entertaining that I should watch now that I've finished this one? 👀
Check out season two from this year next
Just found your channel. Loving it. Started playing.
Great tournament, I feel for the guy tho, it's like me playing against novices and losing half the time because of such idiots. Very hard to climb rank when ppl do that to you
Risk esports is a thing. Well done Synn!
We will make it a thing!
Just subscribed I don't play this game but I like your videos you can even make Tetris fun bro you have a natural talent to keep people engaged/fun/watching keep it up.
Haha thanks for the kind words. We'll see what the show evolves into.
Just binged the whole tournament awesome. Just a request it seems only your newest tournament is a playlist so it was a little hard to find some parts
All my tournaments are in playlists!
@@TheKillPeteStrategy found them now on my other device :)
Hey Pete...good volume on the notifications😉🙌
Yay! Thank you for helping.
I don't even want to tell you how long that took to figure out.
Baffled why white didn't move his 3 in the north to guard against the zombie threat at 47:54. Would've been well fortified there against the zombies.
Those don't connect
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Yeah I noticed that and tried to edit to mean the other 3 stack. Oops lol. Love your videos man.
Hi Pete, I absolutely love your shirt! Feeling really sorry for cowboy, he took it like a champ though!
He did. He's a gentleman.
Bad the game ended with one player not knowing the game and another knocked out by an alt (old rivalry).
I really like the many "new" maps, I just dont get why they are made so unclear - where to cross etc.
This was an awful display of bad sportsmanship. I can't believe it happened in our community and I would do everything on my power to keep it from happening again
Awesome game! I don't mind the drama either :P
wasnt as exciting as the ones u were in u make this game interesting honestly
TY
Watched all of em!!! :D
😻 I'm glad you liked it.
Did you guys ever do the after show breakdown? Can't easily find a link? Did yellow ever give a reasonable explanation?Seems just reading your screen,Pete, at the end of this video, he seems he thought he had a valid excuse for his play ...and now I'm wondering if Cowboy cud have gone down and left and taken that bonus ( the area that purple 💜 took it's second bonus in ..?!?
Whens the mic and Audio interface upgrades? Ik you make that bread now, no shame but my ears the static most likely the AI. Not stopping me from watching fs I love your attitude.
XD I just had the pleasure of enjoying your luxious new setup. Well played.
No idea why this got recommended to me. Was interested to watch & learn, but man the vindictive play by Alves made me question the competitive integrity of the game. Add to that, hearing about alts being allowed and the one commentator knowing who they are and not being allowed to disclose it. I lost interest and stopped watching afterwards. Have to agree with Pete's statement on alts, and wish that we had seen all players trying to win.
The existence of alts was a misstep IMO that occurred before I was a part of this community and has now been grandfathered in.
I'm doing what I can to encourage players to act with integrity and fairness.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Good luck to you! Obviously it's going to always be a niche competitive scene to some extent, but integrity & fairness can only help it flourish. There's certainly a large number of people who have fond memories of Risk from which to potentially draw interest.
Unfortunate that the game was ruined by one player... Quite the toxic mentality, and if people know who's alt that is, they should absolutely be barred from at least a year of tournaments, if not more. Thanks for the video though!
Love that you do this
It's a good idea.
And hey, if I can't compete at least I get to be a part of the hype.
Do zombies get -1 to their rolls or something because they seem particularly easy to break?
They lose in ties
i have a original risk board game all the pieces are made out of wood not plastic
why have zombies for a grand finals? kinda a lame way to end it no?
Zombies wouldn't be my top pick either but they've been trying to mix up the settings.
I did not understand why you were not in the final
I got eliminated in the semis
@@TheKillPeteStrategy but then how did Tim get to finals and you didn't? You had 81 point prior to semis, he had 77 and he got 1 bounty during semis. And if I understand the rules correctly you finished on the same position in semis after green getting to 70%. Is the bounty worth more in semis than in was in previous rounds, 3 points?
@@sink57 there was some kind of tiebreaker rule that I don't understand in the semis since it was 70%
Don't like zombies for finals. Should'ave been world map
This man has brrrrains
@@TheKillPeteStrategy This woman* :PP
@@XstrioX *😘
Sucks about what happened to cowboy but it was overall a good game.
Some sloppy play for the final; prior rounds saw much better strategizing.
I didn't see sloppy mistakes I saw a player deliberately throwing the game in a world championship. Poor sportsmanship.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy - You didn't watch the last few minutes of the game, then?
@@Max_Griswald There were mistakes - I'm not sure it was sloppy play. It's easy to make mistakes in the moment when you only have 60 seconds to take your turn.
Good.
Gooooooooooo Pete!
Pete got three 1st places out of four games but didn't make it into the finals? How does that make sense.
This season I lost in the semis to tie breakers because it was a 70% game
This ended me watching ur video.Tim should got 2nd
who was the yellow player??? that was so damn lame man... for the players and the viewers, especially in the finals.. He shouldnt be allowed to maliciously block another player like that. Honestly i dont think he should even be able to compete after that lol.
Although i did just start watching risk vids about a week ago so I cant really talk hahaha
(also just realized there are a billion other comments like this..... sorry Pete hahah)
I agree he shouldn't.
It was unbelievably scummy and I used this example to help get alt accounts out of Risk competition forever.
Personally I don't believe the rumor of who it was because I can't imagine they would be that shitty.
Epic
Yes Sir!
Just here to see if you reply to all comments lol
You thought I was BSing?
@@TheKillPeteStrategy no never said that just giving your video more comments lol
@@KJJTB Eyyyy This guyyyyyy
If you have a problem with players metagaming (e.g. making it their objective to kill another player, rather than to win) then maybe don't let the players know who each other are?
The all anonymous tournament would be cool
What is an "alt"?
It's when a top player makes a new account to play in a tournament in camouflage.
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Ahhh, oh that makes sense. Now I understand the whole conflict better. Thanks for explaining! :) really like watching your videos.
@@Drillbitayler Alt account = alternative account, I think ;)
Mom, I want you to buy civilization 4 for my b-day!!!
Mom: we already have it at home...
Civilization 4 at home: risk
eu sou do brasil e quero participar
você pode usar discórdia
@@TheKillPeteStrategy yes, but i'm very bad at english
, HENRIQUEz#1807
The extra commentary distracted...better with you on your own.
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yellow played extremly poorly. Weak performance from brasil.
Really left a bad taste in my mouth. As fun and nostalgic as Risk is, there are too many unchecked bad actors on this game. Frustrating.
Oh it got checked!
We got alts removed from tournaments after this
@@TheKillPeteStrategy Thanks, Pete! Just found your channel this week - LOVE your content!
Some white girl and coffee lol😂
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First bois!
Nice!