SPL Flash vs Stork 2010-11-01 @ Benzene

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  • Map: Benzene
    Flash (Terran)
    - Name: 이영호 (Lee Young Ho)
    - Team: KT Rolster
    vs
    Stork (Protoss)
    - Name: 송병구 (Song Byung Goo)
    - Team: Samsung KHAN
    League: 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
    Date: 2010-11-01
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ความคิดเห็น • 95

  • @jbmax2567
    @jbmax2567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    이영호가 0809까지 허영무 송병구한테 거의 압살당하다시피 털렸었는데
    09년 말 msl 예선 단장의능선에서 각성하고 0910 부터 케이티까지 같이 각성했음
    이 시즌부터 허영무나 송병구 도재욱처럼 상대전적 개밀리던 선수상대로 따라잡기 시작하고 갓모드 발동

    • @user-yc5mm3hh4l
      @user-yc5mm3hh4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      그냥 경험치에서밀렸던게 경혐치먹고 다따라잡은거지

    • @user-yc5mm3hh4l
      @user-yc5mm3hh4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      그냥 경험치에서밀렸던게 경혐치먹고 다따라잡은거지

  • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
    @user-sr6pi5lp3q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    8:30 start

  • @Rocket90
    @Rocket90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this in 2020!!!

    • @BYRONSLAM09
      @BYRONSLAM09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      these games are atemporal!

    • @yr2235
      @yr2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      Привет из 2023 🤣

  • @gashbleach
    @gashbleach 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FLASH VS STORK STARTS AT 8:30

  • @yoshtodd
    @yoshtodd 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow what a game. impressed by stork, despite the sloppy macro in early/mid game. flash is just too god mode right now.

  • @dylanseo1995
    @dylanseo1995 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @Ale because it's in effective... it takes a lot of gas (vessle takes 225) and time + great risk in pro matches. And you need to mass produce ghosts inorder to be effective + furtive movement. Just goliaths are way better because it's factory unit,cheap, highest air attack damage in terran, it's just perfect counter unit for carriers.

  • @user-zu6mm8ip5t
    @user-zu6mm8ip5t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    갓 대단하다고 느낀경기 테란이면 안다 저게 알마나힘든지

  • @DariushMJ
    @DariushMJ 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best . Game . Ever

  • @AJashaman
    @AJashaman 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Prometheus4096
    that's debatable. Zergs need to have a consistent muta micro to hold mm armies at bay, continually unburrow and re burrow lurkers, maintaining swarms while trying not to get defilers sniped while sniping vessels with scourges. Also have to be careful not to send everything in single file ad keep everything as spread out as possible.

  • @NeoDaedalusCz
    @NeoDaedalusCz 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @4vvhiplazh7 Movie VS Flash Third Set in that final I don't remember now

  • @KTFlaSh96
    @KTFlaSh96 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    storks main weakness was his economy. he needed just one more base, and he could have won the game. the reason for his transistion into a pure ht army, was the fact that gas is unlimited in sc (not in sc2) and minerals come at a price.

  • @gagamin2
    @gagamin2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6시반말고 테란바로 오른쪽에 멀티 깨자마자 먹었으면 방어하면서 공격가기그래도 괜찮았을텐데

  • @maldito1012
    @maldito1012 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDK if Terra is the best race, Zerg when are expanded can be trully hard. IMO Brood War is very balanced.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    you dont "snipe" interceptors, that implies he is clicking on them. In SC sniping means you are picking out units to click on.

  • @maldito1012
    @maldito1012 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why never Flash do some Ghost or Vessel to Lockdown Carriers or EMP the High Templars, Jaedong always do the same moves vs Flash.

  • @AJashaman
    @AJashaman 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Prometheus4096 i think you'll find a lot of people (including myself) who believe exactly the opposite..... Defilers are imbalanced? so your saying zerg without defilers is balanced to a Terran army in the late game? defilers are just equalizers.. and the fact that they are so high tech means that so many tvz games end before they are even gotten. There's a reason why 4/5 of the most dominant players in history are Terran...

  • @KTFlaSh96
    @KTFlaSh96 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Killerman2k wat is your loose definition of "play zerg"???

  • @LegalizeStimpack
    @LegalizeStimpack 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AJashaman I think he just means that it's much easier to keep your money spent once you start making ultralisks.
    And I agree that 9-pool or lurker drop is usually a bad strat in progames - but they are good strats against D+ players like me. I think his definition of "gosu" is from a foreigner bnet/Iccup perspective rather than progame.

  • @soullohen
    @soullohen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    영상 초반 박지수 김기현 경기 삼칸테란.. 이성은의 부재가 확실히 크긴했구나..

  • @4vvhiplazh7
    @4vvhiplazh7 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is a reason you shouldn't use carriers against Flash: He is no.1!! and in all the games I've watched I have NEVER seen him lose to a Toss player who goes for carriers... If anyone does know of a game let me know...

  • @boazs20
    @boazs20 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @doanvu11 dts are only good in early game , in later game u have to tech to carriers , or arbiters

  • @fehler91
    @fehler91 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh i just love hcbailly, he is so awesome, so funny and everything...hahahaha omg xD

  • @user-sw8jh8dk2x
    @user-sw8jh8dk2x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6시 멀티깨진게 화근이었고 지상병력의 부재도 컷다 이영호가 더잘한느낌

  • @T_QQQ
    @T_QQQ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    송병구 잘한거 같은데 졌네

  • @vasjaforutube1
    @vasjaforutube1 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Rav3n4
    And Heartbreak Ridge as well. Carriers, gas steal, all this kind of stuff. Seems that at this point Stork is in a very bad shape. Still, the game was pretty even for a long. I guess, P slightly > T.

  • @hjinc1984
    @hjinc1984 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't go stargate tech like that cuz you can't counter against mines in early game. Getting observers is a must. Even if you survive to the midgame, you will definitely need multiple corsairs to effectively execute what you say, but that will mean less number of goons to back up.
    I am not trying to bash you, but am simply pointing out that your plan just doesn't work in the pro level. I indeed recall one game where a plan similar to yours was carried out against flash, only to fail miserably

  • @Lancelt666
    @Lancelt666 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dark Archon? Really? What for? To Mind Control one unit and die with it?

  • @theabra10
    @theabra10 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    lo maximo

  • @SorryRush
    @SorryRush 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME GAME

  • @bearlearnpiano
    @bearlearnpiano 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is reason why Flash is a champion!

  • @AJashaman
    @AJashaman 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Prometheus4096 I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree. Otherwise i see this going on forever lol. I'll just say that among top level players, you rarely see lurker drops/ 9 pools that are actually sucessful (not saying it doesnt happen). Im not sure what you mean by not needing to macro once z hits ultras though..

  • @lakermangmx
    @lakermangmx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome game

  • @Rav3n4
    @Rav3n4 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @4vvhiplazh7 he lost to stork a few years ago. Stork made carriers. But back then Flash was not that good. just search for stork vs flash python

  • @txt2064
    @txt2064 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    it looked like a practice for flash... is he invencible???

  • @orionmaxout
    @orionmaxout 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats true, stork lost due to positioning of army hence the losing economy.

  • @chairmobile
    @chairmobile 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    someone tried d-web on flash. It failed pretty damn hard.

  • @gonnersfromlondon
    @gonnersfromlondon 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    match starts at 8:35 due to unknown reason...only kespa knows why -___-

  • @mauriciomontano7261
    @mauriciomontano7261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    brutal stuff

  • @mopbrothers
    @mopbrothers 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why doesn't Flash just build ghosts and lockdown the carriers?

  • @ShaRpTeeN19
    @ShaRpTeeN19 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOD YES! Carrier user goes down WOT! on iccup and in sc generally carriers are such a pain in all mu's the damage they inflict is just imba! well my opinion anyone with me on that fact? ;P

  • @ooker777
    @ooker777 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    this map should be changed its name to C6H6 lol. It's the formular form of Benzene lol

  • @JogglingBean
    @JogglingBean 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good and close game :)

  • @swek2k8
    @swek2k8 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Game starts 06:46

  • @goonzies
    @goonzies 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bullshit... that was anything but a practice for him. Had stork been in a better position to take down some of those top expansions, it could have been a complete different game. And fyi: it's spelled "invincible". Kthx.

  • @doanvu11
    @doanvu11 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some Dark Templers would help Stork protect his expansion better than making these carriers flying around

  • @Lancelt666
    @Lancelt666 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah it's easy response in '1v1 noobs 20 minutes no rush', in normal game your will be owned before researching Disruption Web.

  • @Yusyanya
    @Yusyanya 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To feedback goddamn Vessels lol.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually you can get corsairs very fast. I think reaver drop is the best opener against Terran but full tech isn't that hard if you're not spending all your gas on carriers. I can get full tech in like 16-20 minutes I'm sure pros can do better. Reaver drops/zealot bombs with corsair d-web is very effective against mid game tank lines before you even get a templar archives. Just remember to get the beacon before the archives and go stargate before citadel. Late game you need Arbiter/Dark Archon.

  • @AJashaman
    @AJashaman 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Prometheus4096 weakest race? 0_o

  • @radupopescuu
    @radupopescuu 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flash vs Stork - min 8

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not even paying attention to Stork's terrible build and lack of use of abilities. No Arbiter, no corsair, didn't use shuttles to escort carriers. Carriers alone suck. They need escorts. Scuttle in templar and reaver against mass goliath. Arbiters. Stasis field. Most importantly. CORSAIRS WITH DISRUPTION WEB! if you have the beacon, get it vs terran. You'll always need it!

  • @LuoarV20
    @LuoarV20 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flash 대박!!!

  • @erylin3526
    @erylin3526 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the fuck they never destroy factories, flash always goes for your core weakness... you must stop his production when you are up to, like he was with carriers upon him

  • @Doll-oe3io
    @Doll-oe3io 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    뚜방뚜방

  • @shadowskillz3539
    @shadowskillz3539 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flash looks good bcoz he's playing a noob protoss player! Attack the base with your carriers not the goliaths. Your Dragons and zealots are suppose to delay the seige tanks to your bases. Roam your carriers harassing bases, and fight in the map where your carrir has the advantage like spaces where goliaths can't reach.

  • @dbscksgnl123
    @dbscksgnl123 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow

  • @Terakin
    @Terakin 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Rav3n4 Flash was ALWAYS that good.

  • @orionmaxout
    @orionmaxout 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha u comment nonsense, the pro game don't play like this. Every move and economy is count to every cent and seconds. Stork lost due to poorer control, with little advantage a pro will overrun another easily and make the other one look nub.
    In fact stork lifetime record is like 9-12 of flash.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The easy response to that TRN combo is corsair/arbiter/zealot/templar for hallucinate not storm. Hallucinate arbiters, send in with sairs. Disruption web tank lines/stasis gols and tanks. Send in speedlots. Without the abilities disruption web and stasis field protoss cannot beat terran mech without major losses.

  • @mikumikuiyada
    @mikumikuiyada 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ow. ima protoss, im gonna make supreme unit combination with a mix of everything to counter everything
    *terran* fak that. ima spam tanks and golliaths and tanks and golliaths
    and teran wins

  • @Polacox123
    @Polacox123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flash Sapee

  • @yoshtodd
    @yoshtodd 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    sloppy micro i mean

  • @ZC.Andrew
    @ZC.Andrew 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAHa wow, remember when Carriers were good at retreating?!

  • @murdocklesban6836
    @murdocklesban6836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ese protos es bruto con los cargadores no sabe atacar

  • @Empathic
    @Empathic 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    gg upgrades

  • @orestes618
    @orestes618 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    why these guys dont use ghost? 3 ghost fuck all carries.

    • @smartbee_3498
      @smartbee_3498 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Orestes Fornero Ideality is different with reality.

  • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
    @user-sr6pi5lp3q 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    суший

  • @BlackWall500
    @BlackWall500 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Strand0410 You Tell Him! SC1 Pwns sc2! :)

  • @rogernevez5187
    @rogernevez5187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ARIGATÔ !!!!!

  • @Michael_Jeong
    @Michael_Jeong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TE SA GI

  • @iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053
    @iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:43 TWA. Templars with Attitude! I'm coming straight out of Auir! Psyonic Storm my desire! Turn into an Archon fuck you up with Blue Fire!

  • @user-wg8bi3qf8b
    @user-wg8bi3qf8b 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    36:56 이 장면은 골리앗 진짜 무섭네요 화면밖에서 미사일 날라오는거 지림

  • @BlackWingedSeraphX
    @BlackWingedSeraphX 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate Stork, he cheesed a lot in the past vids I've seen of him

  • @assholus228
    @assholus228 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    stork was in complete fear afterwards

  • @Zenek22334
    @Zenek22334 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    gg prtotos no money

  • @chairmobile
    @chairmobile 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love to see stupid toss players who don't have enough skills to control a regular army and default to pressing C every 4 minutes, and then still get owned by superior micro and multitasking. Stork, lose. Lose everyday.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carriers suck against terran, are these pros are nubs? lol Carriers are better against another protoss.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    carriers suck. Overrated, too expensive. Only good against computers and noobs. The masterful protoss player rarely needs more than a couple carriers, in my opinion.

  • @180DegreeMason
    @180DegreeMason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flash needed science vessels badly. Stork's entire build was horrible, going carriers like a total nub. It's so easy to respond to carriers. Protoss only path to victory vs Terran is disruption web and stasis field unless they are using infantry. Then you use psionic storm like you would vs zerg.

  • @Lancelt666
    @Lancelt666 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha...

  • @wargodEx
    @wargodEx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    watch this game to see an s-class player get owned like he's some scrub

  • @hjinc1984
    @hjinc1984 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Yes what you say will work in your imagination but simply is not feasible. Are you even aware of how tight these games are played in the pro level? You cannot tech up and produce every type of unit you say here. Carriers + web corsairs + arbiter stasis + templar hallucination? Ha, good luck with that. You will get destroyed before having half of those units produced.

  • @user-xv7bk7to7k
    @user-xv7bk7to7k ปีที่แล้ว

    답답하네 캐리어로 커맨더만 파괴하고 수비하고 하면 되잖아;;; 왜 골리앗하고 싸우냐고 ㅡ,ㅡ

  • @user-ro5bh9ks1f
    @user-ro5bh9ks1f 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    엄재경은 헛소리 정말 .. 남말하는거 주워먹기나하고.. 하나도몰라..

  • @orionmaxout
    @orionmaxout 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah jaedong is more skillful than flash, flash just choose the better race.

    • @orbit_22
      @orbit_22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol, what?