I didn't include the system cost in this video as it is very variable from one country to another, and Lenovo frequently have sales on. Last month, this specification was £5,600 (inc. UK VAT), and currently it's priced at £8,030. The USA pricing seems much higher for some of the components, but there are deals on the US site at the moment, so this configuration is $8,780 (apparently discounted from $15,139).
Now that reality has tempered the initial enthusiasm for the new Macs, it's time to look again at what AMD/Nvidia is offering (aside from Geological Timescale wait times). As an amateur video editor, I was looking seriously at the 5950X/RTX3080 combination. The Threadrippers are indeed mighty, but to do that horsepower justice it needs to be paired with the RTX3090, and pricing that combo tips it into second mortgage territory. Also there are rumours that the Threadrippers are soon to be re-engineered with Zen3 architecture. However, I'm impressed with the professionalism that Lenovo has shown to put this package together, and those in the market for this sort of power should certainly give this a serious look. Also, I think your presentation is first class. No pretentious stupid music, no mindless egotism, no daft opinions borne out of zero experience or any real knowledge. Maybe a different shirt though. ... ;-)
@@TheAppleLab apple wouldn’t be going down this route if they couldn’t beat the x86. They just invested a huge amount in the niche Mac Pro. I’ll be amazed if that’s thrown away
I was looking at P500 for some time, as a used option, has a lot of features and decent power supply, my only concern is GPU support as some server towers are finicky!
I'd rather spend money on this type of system, than other builds. As long as it supports Gaming video cards too, not just cad cards lol. Great Video. Love this stuff.
I'd love to see you run macOS via OpenCore on this puppy. It's short on Thunderbolt, but at least 10G ethernet is already included and the UBS ports should be sufficient for most things. You'll have to shove your 5700XT in there, of course...
Great machine but our newly purchased ThinkStation P620 suffers from a sudden power loss type shutdown, usually when not under any load. This happens around every 2 weeks. Lenovo repair was unable to resolve the issue.
That sucks. I had a noisy PSU on mine. Lenovo sent me 5 replacements before I got a good one 🙄 It’s a brilliant computer, but their quality control is lacking.
The motherboard diagram on page 65 of the P620 Hardware Maintenance Manual shows a Thunderbolt control connector. Is that connector present on the P620 you have? If so, I wonder if a Gigabyte Titan Ridge Thunderbolt host card would work in the P620.
Yes, it is present. I had wondered the same thing. Lenovo do make a couple of Thunderbolt options (front and rear facing), but there's no indication on whether they are compatible with the P620.
Unfortunately 3 months ago we bought the Lenovo ThinkStation P620 for over 90 thousand SEK and it seems there was a problem with the motherboard as it freezes and stops working several times during the day which resulted in losing several hours of work. Since then we've been calling and emailing Lenovo technical support trying to get the problem fixed without success. We are told that the technicians called us but we didn't respond, which is a total lie and if this was true then they have our email address and even our office address, it's not like it's impossible to reach anybody in the 21st century. We've been loyal customers of Lenovo for over 7 years and we're very upset and frustrated by the way we were treated. /Teeh Pictures
@@ConstantGeekery It really is very bad and the issue still hasn't been fixed because apparently they've misplaced the motherboard (which was custom built for my order) that was sent to Lenovo Sweden when I registered the issue since late november. I don't know what will happen now, hope I don't have to wait more because the issue is very unbearable 😥
@@recklessthor4 It was fixed after sending it back to Lenovo's repair center in Poland. But the experience was horrible and it cost me a lot of time and effort to get it looked at and eventually fixed.
Hi I have a question about this systems motherboard, if I were to purchase it standalone could I use it like any other wrx8 socket motherboard like the Asus one or gigabyte I ask because I have found one at a much cheaper price than the branded alternatives but am unsure if it will work like a normal board due to the weird way the power is delivered.
It has a proprietary power supply connection - the PSU interfaces directly with the board. Very convenient if you have the full system as it means you can swap out the power supply in seconds… but not so great for DIY builds. It may be cheaper, but without the matching case and PSU, it will end up costing you a lot in time and modifications.
I didn't include the system cost in this video as it is very variable from one country to another, and Lenovo frequently have sales on. Last month, this specification was £5,600 (inc. UK VAT), and currently it's priced at £8,030. The USA pricing seems much higher for some of the components, but there are deals on the US site at the moment, so this configuration is $8,780 (apparently discounted from $15,139).
Now that reality has tempered the initial enthusiasm for the new Macs, it's time to look again at what AMD/Nvidia is offering (aside from Geological Timescale wait times). As an amateur video editor, I was looking seriously at the 5950X/RTX3080 combination. The Threadrippers are indeed mighty, but to do that horsepower justice it needs to be paired with the RTX3090, and pricing that combo tips it into second mortgage territory. Also there are rumours that the Threadrippers are soon to be re-engineered with Zen3 architecture. However, I'm impressed with the professionalism that Lenovo has shown to put this package together, and those in the market for this sort of power should certainly give this a serious look. Also, I think your presentation is first class. No pretentious stupid music, no mindless egotism, no daft opinions borne out of zero experience or any real knowledge. Maybe a different shirt though. ... ;-)
thats indeed a beast of a cpu... M1 is not the end of the world...long live x86! ;)
You're comparing entry-level mobile Apple Silicon with high-end hot workstation x86? ok...
as long as the X version is not released, of course...but i doubt, that even the second generation would beat a high end x86.
@@TheAppleLab apple wouldn’t be going down this route if they couldn’t beat the x86. They just invested a huge amount in the niche Mac Pro. I’ll be amazed if that’s thrown away
M1 over hype it’s nothing new and x86/64 won’t go any where
Great Constant Geekery fan and fascinating video, but a bit beyond me, like a snail looking at a microwave. Thank you. I really admire your expertise.
I was looking at P500 for some time, as a used option, has a lot of features and decent power supply, my only concern is GPU support as some server towers are finicky!
I'd rather spend money on this type of system, than other builds. As long as it supports Gaming video cards too, not just cad cards lol.
Great Video. Love this stuff.
You can put any video card in. The RTX 5000 gives similar performance to the RTX 2080 for gaming, so you can use this machine for everything!
with these specs, this machine will just give you the efficiency for years to come.
I hope so. I’ll be paying for it for years to come… 😁
Ahhhhh technology....you gotta love it! Tanks for sharing...
Almost mandatory to try OpenCore on it 😄 (though the Nvidia card throws a spanner in the works I think)
I'd love to see you run macOS via OpenCore on this puppy. It's short on Thunderbolt, but at least 10G ethernet is already included and the UBS ports should be sufficient for most things. You'll have to shove your 5700XT in there, of course...
Great machine but our newly purchased ThinkStation P620 suffers from a sudden power loss type shutdown, usually when not under any load. This happens around every 2 weeks. Lenovo repair was unable to resolve the issue.
That sucks. I had a noisy PSU on mine. Lenovo sent me 5 replacements before I got a good one 🙄 It’s a brilliant computer, but their quality control is lacking.
The motherboard diagram on page 65 of the P620 Hardware Maintenance Manual shows a Thunderbolt control connector. Is that connector present on the P620 you have? If so, I wonder if a Gigabyte Titan Ridge Thunderbolt host card would work in the P620.
Yes, it is present. I had wondered the same thing. Lenovo do make a couple of Thunderbolt options (front and rear facing), but there's no indication on whether they are compatible with the P620.
Unfortunately 3 months ago we bought the Lenovo ThinkStation P620 for over 90 thousand SEK and it seems there was a problem with the motherboard as it freezes and stops working several times during the day which resulted in losing several hours of work. Since then we've been calling and emailing Lenovo technical support trying to get the problem fixed without success. We are told that the technicians called us but we didn't respond, which is a total lie and if this was true then they have our email address and even our office address, it's not like it's impossible to reach anybody in the 21st century.
We've been loyal customers of Lenovo for over 7 years and we're very upset and frustrated by the way we were treated.
/Teeh Pictures
That’s a pretty rubbish experience. 🙁 I thought these machines came with next day on-site support...
@@ConstantGeekery It really is very bad and the issue still hasn't been fixed because apparently they've misplaced the motherboard (which was custom built for my order) that was sent to Lenovo Sweden when I registered the issue since late november. I don't know what will happen now, hope I don't have to wait more because the issue is very unbearable 😥
@@teehpictures Was the issue ever fixed?
@@recklessthor4 It was fixed after sending it back to Lenovo's repair center in Poland. But the experience was horrible and it cost me a lot of time and effort to get it looked at and eventually fixed.
Hi I have a question about this systems motherboard, if I were to purchase it standalone could I use it like any other wrx8 socket motherboard like the Asus one or gigabyte I ask because I have found one at a much cheaper price than the branded alternatives but am unsure if it will work like a normal board due to the weird way the power is delivered.
It has a proprietary power supply connection - the PSU interfaces directly with the board. Very convenient if you have the full system as it means you can swap out the power supply in seconds… but not so great for DIY builds. It may be cheaper, but without the matching case and PSU, it will end up costing you a lot in time and modifications.
Hope you can test the noise level in normal working condition.
It’s pretty quiet. I’ll try and remember to a DB test.
Lenovo 👍😍👍😍
We don't really know if it actually outperforms Intel
We wait update 2023
Except this has been out for over two years already…
Configuration price?
Depends on what offers Lenovo are running. Standard retail for this configuration would be £8030, but that can reduce to £5600 during sale periods.
cost?
I've pinned a comment with the details.
Bad single thread performance...
Nobody buys a workstation like this for single-threaded tasks!