Most reviewers of SAI: “it’s just a stupid pop-album” TOP fans: “so here’s a reference in this song that relates to medieval mythology which within the broader context reveals an analysis of our own capitalist society, which is illustrated in part by the bishops of DEMA and their religion of vialism which has direct ties to Zoroastrianism......”
and bro I just love how top fans are just so concerned and how top is just different from other bands i mean like just look at the attention to detail even a tiny dot 8n top's albums has a meaning and a complete explanation behind it
This is so insane. I love it. Tyler and Josh are geniuses for creating the world and all around it. But the fans are like fucking insane man. I love this so so much.
If it wasn't for you, most of us would never understand the subtext behind tøp's cryptic messages and the origins of their symbols. You bless us with knowledge sir.
He has very much helped me see and even understand a lot of TOP's music, story, and subtext. I suck terribly with coming up with theories and spotting subtle messages and clues, a lot of it goes over my dull head so having a bright mind like Nalbis point those out and give clear thoughts and explanations on it helps me stay up with the Clique lol.
Cool idea - I didn't think about Clancy and Redcrosse being connected! I thought maybe Clancy was named that because he is fighting against red or maybe the bishops want him to be a warrior on their side.
Seeing as The Faerie Queene is a Christian Allegory... In a Christian context this gives "Clancy Is Dead" a whole new meaning. Especially if Clancy isn't /really/ dead, and that's just propaganda. If Clancy is our Redcrosse--our righteous hero on his own Pilgrim's Progress... then death could actually be something different. The Bible talks about how we "die" to our old self and become a new person in Christ. And baptism is a symbolic death--being "buried" under water like Jesus and then raised from the dead by the glory of the Father to "walk in newness of life." And even literal death is something that is only physical as the soul lives on eternally. Or else if not that, which I grant is a bit heavy-handed and oddly specific--maybe saying Clancy/Redcrosse is dead is a way of saying "there is no holiness in DEMA" ...Maybe Clancy tried to get out of DEMA by being holy on his own. In the Christian faith, the only holiness we can have comes from the Holy Spirit, not our own ability to be good. So maybe Clancy managed to escape the vile (vial) clutches of DEMA once, but wouldn't join the banditos... he tried to find his own holiness, but just ended up lost in Trench (or the bishops of DEMA got him again).
@@ohifonlyx33 The Christian allegory also kind of fits with the termination of dmaorg, Clancy's website. The site began "terminating" on good Friday at 3pm EST, the day Jesus died and around the same time (accounts say he died around 3pm) and then the termination ended 3 days later similar to how Jesus rose again 3 days later. You could say that Clancy's website/journal died and then rose again 3 days later, with basically the birth of a new era on 5th April.
About 6 Contributors With an interesting, upbeat instrumental, Tyler delivers his vocals on “Glowing Eyes” in a similarly cheerful manner. The lyrics however tell a much darker story. The song explores topics such as sociology, depression, apathy, and the alluring pull that the idea of death can have on an individual. The “glowing eyes” seem to represent a form of negativity of which the narrator is reluctant to let go of (addiction). This wish for the preservation of those things that cause our sadness may seem strange, but is actually rather common among the depressed. Regardless of the rumors, Josh Dun is not singing the backup vocals on this track. It was confirmed that the credit belongs to James Truslow, an old friend of Tyler’s. From the genuis of the song glowing eyes
I'm holding onto what I know And what I know I must let go But I would rather play a song For the eyes to sing along Maybe Tyler ( Redcross ) has given in to despair ( Nico ) and the propaganda ( Trash )
"what’s twisted is that the moment i can afford any food i want is the moment i start getting it for free. several years ago, broke tyler would have cried with happiness." -Tyler Joseph
On the window of the shop during "Chocker" there is Ned with the text "Have you seen me?", my theory is that the bishops are looking for him, because they now Ned could change things.
Are we ignoring how the dragon at 2:50 looks EXACTLY like the dragon on the album cover??? Not even just the eyes, the way the head and wings are placed, the shape of the fire coming out of its nose, EVERYTHING. No way this is a coincidence.
With Levitate's "Oh, I know how to levitate up off my feet And ever since the seventh grade I learned to fire-breathe" and Tyler trying to get the toy dragon back in the Choker video I thought that Trash was really a metaphor for Tyler's creativity but perhaps it's been corrupted, yet still glowing with the Bandito's yellow hope.
It’s the idea of us destroying Clancy. Clancy I think is both a person and idea. Him being the idea of hope or rebellion against our tormentors. Whoever is controlling the narrative wants these ideas extinguished. It’s why the word destroy plays at the end of shy away, and why we see Clancy is dead/ scaled and icy everywhere. Everyone is talking about the name of the album, repeating it constantly, and those who know what it stands for are forced to relive that message again and again.
The street referenced by the map is named "Clancy Way" Maybe it's not saying "Destroy Clancy", maybe it's saying "Destroy Clancy Way." They don't just want to stop Clancy, they want to destroy what he stands for.
The nursery rhyme the mulberry bush was originally sang by prisoners during their morning exercise where they would walk around an actual mulberry bush, so there could be a chance that the song could be about being trapped or imprisoned in some way
I absolutely love watching and reading new theories, because everytime I do, I go back to listen to all the Twenty One Pilots songs and I swear its like listening to them again for the first time. That new perspective, the different messages that we can get out of just one song is astounding. We constantly reshape this songs to see different perspectives, different stories, different messages. And I love it.
but you ended up being so right about those eerie, piercing yellow eyes, y'know, 'cause of Bishop control. i mean this was already a stellar video too :)
ALL I want is a blog with a PowerPoint or something with a timeline and explanations of the universe and stuff. Is all I need right now,so I can print it and put it in my room's wall. Do that please please please
I was thinking something along these lines, but i hadn't looked into the illustrator, that part is really interesting. Like you said, I don't think tyler is going to outright be like "so uh capitalism bad" he's probably going to keep being metaphorical and vague about it just like almost everything he does.
@@christinaleonard1510 yeah, I think it has a bit to do with my biases and personally, I will admit that. I guess what I meant is even if he was anti-capitalist he probably wouldn't be super up front about it. I also admit that people can criticize capitalism without being completely anti-capitalist. I also know that i don't know enough about economic systems to fully discuss alternatives to capitalism and that whole dealio. So yes, he could very likely just be critiquing greed and consumerism. I just find it fun to explore my own thoughts about things through art that i see, so i'm more likely to have an anti-capitalist reading. I also found the additional connection to the socialist illustrator particularly interesting but even using that added info it's all just discussion and theorizing and I guess more of a way for us to project our own opinions and have discussions and make stuff inspired by top. I do agree that it is important to make the distinction that it is all just theorizing fun and not a serious theory about what views tyler holds personally because that is a bit of a jump.
@@christinaleonard1510 I 100% am thinking along the same lines you are. I'm pretty sure that this album is pushing's DEMA's views... not Clancy's or Tyler's. It is our job to think and figure it out.
@@christinaleonard1510 I'm glad someone said what I was thinking so I didn't have to type something this long 😂. I too thought it was kind of a stretch to assume that Tyler was anti capitalist.
Matthew 13:22 “The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.”
So true I can't wait for there other album of twenty one pilots and there lyrics have scripture in there music I hope one day they drop a gospel album but in there style Next year ☺️ God bless you for spending the good news God bless you and Jesus loves you .
When listening to the album, the lyrics are sad but mellow. It stays upbeat and "happy" which makes it seems well.. yes, happy but it really isn't deep inside. Therefore this deception is being created. The dragon.
Awesome connections there, that makes so much sense of their style! Another thing about the dragon is that its iciness might embody the coldness referred to in the judge (“I know my soul’s freezing”) and in “Oh Ms Believer” (“We get colder as we grow older... your twisted thoughts are like snow on the road”). Given that both songs allude to doubt ("Ms Believer" is like "Missbeliever", and Tyler describes himself as being "best friends with [his] doubt" in the Judge), this iciness seems to be a reference to faith going cold. If so, this may mean the dragon stands for an entity who makes faith go cold (which could be “[Tyler] or the devil” if the Judge is anything to go by) by spreading deception. Thematically it would make sense if this dragon represented some controlling ominous entity behind Dema, and it would fit nicely with the parallels you can get from Christian sources, where Blurryface would parallel the "flesh" (the sinful aspect of our hearts), Dema would parallel the "world" (the systems which try to conform everyone to some false standard), and this Scaled and Icy dragon would parallel the "devil" (who is depicted as "a dragon" and "a serpent" "who deceives the whole world" in the book of Revelation (which alludes to Genesis 3) - this fits nicely with the image of the snake wrapped around the globe). Those are my two cents, hope you all have a lovely day and God bless :)
Really well researched and a great in depth look at the walter crane connection, among other things that might have gone under the radar had you not put a spotlight on them. You clearly put a lot of work into it and it shows! Good job man
You are twenty one pilots right the guy on sending the message now by the way you're my favorite band I just want to know more about you my name is Gabe and I'm 10 years old I'm just using my mom's account
yeah the whole faerie queene is a very biblical story, since i'm not religious i don't feel i have much authority on the topic, but i love seeing those interpretations!
Yes very true. But what I can’t shake is the fact that Tyler said Trench was a world with no God, yet he seems to allude to him in songs like chlorine and leave the city.
@@bigshotz1240 what i think he meant is that it’s a world that needed it and that’s why nico and the niners which have a story if their own are trying to break the cycle and infiltrate
He's talking about satan's kingdom in the spiritual realm! These guys work so hard to make you ask yourselft what is thoses forces we fight. They are in the spiritual realm. Jesus came to give us power over the demons of this surnatural realm. Satan want you to think there is just the natural realm that exist. A majority of your problems are demons living in you. You can't get rid of the problem without getting the demons out. Tyler know about Jesus and everything Go watch Wittaker and tyler joseph music
Dude, now that the new album has been teased, I CANT wait for your video concluding the whole lore!!! I just LOVEEE that we are back in business again✨
Ava (@grapefantava from Twitter) here! This video is a masterpiece... wow, and aside from the faerie queene connections, the way in which you’ve managed to connect absolutely everything and put it together like this, with so much detail and so many connections, dude this is incredible. Despair!! I forgot to talk about that character but that’s one of the reasons I stuck with the faerie queene for so long. But honestly this is amazing, thank you so much for this! :)
@@bigshotz1240 oh for sure, especially Walter crane, it all connects so well. I did a lot of research into the faerie queene (focusing on book 1) and even there, the connections are outstanding :)
i cant wait for u to make a video about everything that happened after this video, all of the rest of the sai music videos, the livestream experience, neds cozy campfire, mtv unplugged, vessel’s 10th anniversary, new dmaorg stuff and of course everything to do with tøp7 once it comes out you have a lot of catching up to do
I’m a little late to seeing this video but by far the greatest explanation video I’ve watched yet for Scaled and Icy!! This is insane! Thank you for all the hard work and research you did! :)
How come no one talks about the fact that the instrumentals of Shy Away and Choker sound like those old video games soundtrack from Sega Genesis or Nintendo?
I GOT LITERAL CHILLS WATCHING THIS I HAD TO STARE AT A WALL FOR 10 MINUTES AFTER IT WAS DONE TO COME BACK TO REALITY. WOW. You're such an amazing video maker and everything u said makes so much sense. Tyler is some genius istg
I'm certain everyone is already familiar with this tidbit, but for anyone who does not know: Hearing Jimmy talk about the album cover reminded me of the video Justin Anderson put out on his channel about 8 months ago? Regarding the digital copy of the Blurryface album. Those two blacker than black hemicircles on the left? side of the front cover. They line up perfectly with Trash's eyes. (And possibly with Clifford's also.) And they are so easy to overlook, or not even notice at all. And once again, Tyler's obsession with negative space as his guiding thematic spirit forever now asserts itself again. Most essentially, the way that negative space design is often totally undetectable until it is seen. The same way I couldn't see the cross in Tyler's tattoo until I saw the cross in Tyler's tattoo. And speaking of Tyler's tattoos..what about those jumpsuits? That the damn backing band wears! Okay. That is all I have at this time. Later, suki
Good quality of video, great lighting, microphone, camera, aesthetic, you go straight to the point. I wish you had a bigger audience, thanks for your videos!
Main protagonist has to be Clancy, remember tyler said in an interview that for their next album (SAI) they would like to tackle a character that hasn't had the proper exposition yet, so my guess is that Clancy is indeed Red Cross
I am truly moved by your work, you've opened undiscovered paths of my mind. And I love this 4:3 format, this is not just a video it is the art. Wish to know you in person... Stay blessed!
at the end of "The Outside" one of the bishops has yellow eyes, the same as trash, and also at the end it shows a dragon with YELLOW EYES, so maybe by killing the bishop they were trying to kill the dragon
the funniest part is it’s either they really did think it thru like we think or they started building things up as the fan’s imagination was going crazy i personally think it’s a bit of everything. Let’s take SAI for an example. At first Tyler said that he wrote the album because of the pandemic, it wasn’t originally the next release but he ended up writing it and that’s it. And the fan started saying, since Level of Concern actually, that there was more to it. Turned out being a propaganda, the Bishops using them to try and distract us from what was really going on. And there’s a critic that is recurrent with the album : sonically, it’s almost perfect but it lacks personality, that thing that makes TOP, TOP. And don’t even get me started on the role Paul Meany plays. Paul Meany, co writer, producer and even co performer on Trench was entirely absent for this record except for the last song, even tho he was a big figure in Trench (which according to some theories is actually the first one since it fits more the Trench theme. The reason why it is last may be that it serves as a transition between the unnatural upbeat tone of SAI to a more darker tone of the next record). Paul was the only producer on Trench, the only co-writer and the only co performer on the entire album (you can hear his voice on Chlorine, Bandito in which he’s referred with the we in « this is the song *we* made, and many other songs, supporting Tyler), he is a huge important figure in the lore. It sounds maybe too crazy but i really don’t think objectively, they would’ve left the person that helped translate their vision so well in Trench. he was basically a bandito too, like Josh Dun (a bandito being like a revolutionary, someone trying to get Tyler out of the influence of the bishops and help him escape Dema) Josh does that by being his friend, part of his support system in addition of many other things. Paul does that by conveying his creativity and helping him create a way to express his feelings. I believe he’s really to be praised for the quality of the album. Bluryface was written without him and is, according to the theories, an album that was actually written under the influence of Nico, one of the bishops also known as Bluryface « My name’s bluryface and i care what you think ». (this lyric make me think the fear nico might represent is the fear of other’s opinion, the fear of criticism/judgement which is, as an artist something that can be really hard to overcome. Bluryface can also represent that and the fear of not being able to succeed, the song Stressed out turning around those themes. But that’s another debate. It is interesting to mention because while Bluryface was really watered down for a more accessible commercial success and talks a lot abt the desire to be on the radio while wanting to music that he wants, Trench was, according to all of us, really not watered down at all. It is what Bluryface may have been if it sounded less pop, Trench is probably the music Tyler really wanted to make, something that went in the complete opposite of what is trending. now objectively, there’s only a few reasons why Paul wouldn’t have been invited on the SAI project, especially since he took a huge part in the making of Trench and actually concreting the concept album. Before Trench no one knew it was a concept album, ppl thought they were just being weird and emo. One of those reasons being that he wasn’t available but that’s really unlikely since he hasn’t been reported sick or anything. and his participation in the last track actually cancel the « he wasn’t available theory ». Leaving us with the theory : he’s way too close to Tyler and too implicated in the revolution to be able to make something that basically praises the bishops. In a certain way, SAI still has some positive themes, but it’s too positive, it sounds for most of it like those affirmations you see on instagram to make people feel better, it doesn’t feel real. It’s like saying to someone that is depressed, if you feel sad then don’t, you can do it, instead of tellin them to seek the professional help they need to heal. you have trauma? well don’t think about the past, live in the present, enjoy the moment. Mental illnesses don’t work like that. So yeah all that to just support the theories that SAI is in fact a propaganda and Paul Meany is also a god. I was actually surprised no one mentioned it before since generally when album come out, people talk a lot about the producers behind. Paul’s absence on this one really surprised me given the chemistry they showed in Trench. Which led me to believe this is actually done on purpose. For those who might think that he would’ve let Josh off this project too if that was true, well Josh is the drummer and i highly doubt Tyler would be able to do anything without his band mate. While Trench was a collaboration with Paul Meany, Top is a band to begin with. Also that can be interpreted as Josh being with him in every phase, whether it’s irl or in his mind (many ppl argue Josh wasn’t actually there in the livestream, it was Tyler’s imagination, so maybe even on tour, it was Josh but in the lore, Josh was only there in Tyler’s imagination) Finally, i’ve noticed on the tour Tyler has the black neck, black hands, something reminiscent of the Bluryface era that he didn’t have during Trench and that overall supports the theory, confirmed in the Jumpsuit mv, that bluryface was written under bluryface influence. The conclusion is that Tyler is probably back under Bluryface’s influence. The album also being a lot more pop and light, as if adjusting itself to what’s currently trending, giving us the most commercially digestible version of the band ever. So yeah definitely don’t trust SAI
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Most reviewers of SAI: “it’s just a stupid pop-album”
TOP fans: “so here’s a reference in this song that relates to medieval mythology which within the broader context reveals an analysis of our own capitalist society, which is illustrated in part by the bishops of DEMA and their religion of vialism which has direct ties to Zoroastrianism......”
underrated comment but totally agree man
and bro I just love how top fans are just so concerned and how top is just different from other bands i mean like just look at the attention to detail even a tiny dot 8n top's albums has a meaning and a complete explanation behind it
This is so insane. I love it. Tyler and Josh are geniuses for creating the world and all around it. But the fans are like fucking insane man. I love this so so much.
This man is a treasure
True that...
And we are pirates
yep
If it wasn't for you, most of us would never understand the subtext behind tøp's cryptic messages and the origins of their symbols. You bless us with knowledge sir.
I agree its awesome to hear people's interpretations of all this sub ideology...
He has very much helped me see and even understand a lot of TOP's music, story, and subtext. I suck terribly with coming up with theories and spotting subtle messages and clues, a lot of it goes over my dull head so having a bright mind like Nalbis point those out and give clear thoughts and explanations on it helps me stay up with the Clique lol.
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These lyrics aren't for everyone only few understand- message man
I just realised Clancy means "red warrior" and Recrosse is the knight in the faerie queene... Maybe Clancy is Redcrosse then
Cool idea - I didn't think about Clancy and Redcrosse being connected! I thought maybe Clancy was named that because he is fighting against red or maybe the bishops want him to be a warrior on their side.
@@JadedAlice ooh maybe. I didn't think about that before. Hopefully we'll find out in time :D
Seeing as The Faerie Queene is a Christian Allegory... In a Christian context this gives "Clancy Is Dead" a whole new meaning. Especially if Clancy isn't /really/ dead, and that's just propaganda. If Clancy is our Redcrosse--our righteous hero on his own Pilgrim's Progress... then death could actually be something different. The Bible talks about how we "die" to our old self and become a new person in Christ. And baptism is a symbolic death--being "buried" under water like Jesus and then raised from the dead by the glory of the Father to "walk in newness of life." And even literal death is something that is only physical as the soul lives on eternally.
Or else if not that, which I grant is a bit heavy-handed and oddly specific--maybe saying Clancy/Redcrosse is dead is a way of saying "there is no holiness in DEMA" ...Maybe Clancy tried to get out of DEMA by being holy on his own. In the Christian faith, the only holiness we can have comes from the Holy Spirit, not our own ability to be good. So maybe Clancy managed to escape the vile (vial) clutches of DEMA once, but wouldn't join the banditos... he tried to find his own holiness, but just ended up lost in Trench (or the bishops of DEMA got him again).
@@ohifonlyx33 very interesting. Tyler did say Trench is a world without God. But I think he may be the secret character yet to be named.
@@ohifonlyx33 The Christian allegory also kind of fits with the termination of dmaorg, Clancy's website. The site began "terminating" on good Friday at 3pm EST, the day Jesus died and around the same time (accounts say he died around 3pm) and then the termination ended 3 days later similar to how Jesus rose again 3 days later. You could say that Clancy's website/journal died and then rose again 3 days later, with basically the birth of a new era on 5th April.
That pattern aligning with the Google maps shape of Clancy Way is some of deepest conspiracy theory I’ve ever heard.
I know right
I'm just wondering how on earth anyone found it and figured it out
On mulberry street in Columbus Ohio you can find the heavydirtysoul car as well
@@thecolon3face can you?
@@31727noormuzaffar It might just be people's speculation but it looks very similar to the car.
i know there's someone at the door
they call for help
of this i'm sure
but do i want to say goodbye
to all the glowing eyes
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With an interesting, upbeat instrumental, Tyler delivers his vocals on “Glowing Eyes” in a similarly cheerful manner. The lyrics however tell a much darker story.
The song explores topics such as sociology, depression, apathy, and the alluring pull that the idea of death can have on an individual. The “glowing eyes” seem to represent a form of negativity of which the narrator is reluctant to let go of (addiction). This wish for the preservation of those things that cause our sadness may seem strange, but is actually rather common among the depressed.
Regardless of the rumors, Josh Dun is not singing the backup vocals on this track. It was confirmed that the credit belongs to James Truslow, an old friend of Tyler’s.
From the genuis of the song glowing eyes
I'm holding onto what I know
And what I know I must let go
But I would rather play a song
For the eyes to sing along
Maybe Tyler ( Redcross ) has given in to despair ( Nico ) and the propaganda ( Trash )
Levitate is about trash the dragon too
"what’s twisted is that the moment i can afford any food i want is the moment i start getting it for free.
several years ago, broke tyler would have cried with happiness." -Tyler Joseph
On the window of the shop during "Chocker" there is Ned with the text "Have you seen me?", my theory is that the bishops are looking for him, because they now Ned could change things.
ned is a proxy for creativity, so i think they're trying to find him so they can control the creative freedom that the band is has
in the jar in choker when tyler is looking at the dragon it says "DEMA" so maybe they are trying to capture him
i am honored to watching this and knowing this guy
same
Are we ignoring how the dragon at 2:50 looks EXACTLY like the dragon on the album cover??? Not even just the eyes, the way the head and wings are placed, the shape of the fire coming out of its nose, EVERYTHING. No way this is a coincidence.
that's exactly what the video is about it is the same design
i just used the eyes comparison to be "poetic" lol
With Levitate's "Oh, I know how to levitate up off my feet
And ever since the seventh grade I learned to fire-breathe" and Tyler trying to get the toy dragon back in the Choker video I thought that Trash was really a metaphor for Tyler's creativity but perhaps it's been corrupted, yet still glowing with the Bandito's yellow hope.
i think maybe clancy isn't dead, but they want us to think that he is, like, if he is actually dead, why would there be the "destroy clancy"? 🤨🤨🤨
It’s the idea of us destroying Clancy. Clancy I think is both a person and idea. Him being the idea of hope or rebellion against our tormentors. Whoever is controlling the narrative wants these ideas extinguished. It’s why the word destroy plays at the end of shy away, and why we see Clancy is dead/ scaled and icy everywhere. Everyone is talking about the name of the album, repeating it constantly, and those who know what it stands for are forced to relive that message again and again.
Interesting. Gives me something to really think about...
The street referenced by the map is named "Clancy Way"
Maybe it's not saying "Destroy Clancy", maybe it's saying "Destroy Clancy Way."
They don't just want to stop Clancy, they want to destroy what he stands for.
@@waynemingin9888 yup. Destroy the idea of escaping.
omg yes, the bishops want to destroy all hope, so they convince us that clancy is dead
The nursery rhyme the mulberry bush was originally sang by prisoners during their morning exercise where they would walk around an actual mulberry bush, so there could be a chance that the song could be about being trapped or imprisoned in some way
The song lyrics say "We're moving sideways," so that could definitely fit!
I just realized josh captures and drags Tyler back just like nico did in jumpsuit
I realised this very recently too... and I wondered if maybe the image goes as far back as the Holding on to You video with the noose?
me changing my wallpaper after learning that trash the dragon is not a good guy:
lol
Watch the new Saturday music video you might be alright
lmaooo same for me
what if it's deceiving you to think it's a bad guy
I absolutely love watching and reading new theories, because everytime I do, I go back to listen to all the Twenty One Pilots songs and I swear its like listening to them again for the first time. That new perspective, the different messages that we can get out of just one song is astounding.
We constantly reshape this songs to see different perspectives, different stories, different messages. And I love it.
you are so talented, i can’t wait to see your name on some big productions
Never stop making these. I wish you had a bigger audience. These videos are so good.
but you ended up being so right about those eerie, piercing yellow eyes, y'know, 'cause of Bishop control. i mean this was already a stellar video too :)
I actually like your style of videos, anticipation and then reveal, it keeps me invested in watching the video.
This album just keeps getting more and more interesting
ALL I want is a blog with a PowerPoint or something with a timeline and explanations of the universe and stuff. Is all I need right now,so I can print it and put it in my room's wall.
Do that please please please
Bradtaste in music made a vid abt it
I once wrote a paper on the Trench era and I am working on a new paper about the new album. indd.adobe.com/view/a452fbd5-6ef8-4be9-bf35-17872d29a9c4
Hey that’s sick
Love the vibe of this; cool aesthetic + quality content. And of course, thanks for the shoutout!
Destroy clancy
What if clancy isn't dead, and the point of this album is to kill him
Lol so saying "Clancy is dead" is a threat
Or to keep him alive from all the lies like stated in one of his songs
What if they’ve been planning this album from the start and Clancy is the protagonist in car radio
I was thinking something along these lines, but i hadn't looked into the illustrator, that part is really interesting. Like you said, I don't think tyler is going to outright be like "so uh capitalism bad" he's probably going to keep being metaphorical and vague about it just like almost everything he does.
@@christinaleonard1510 yeah, I think it has a bit to do with my biases and personally, I will admit that.
I guess what I meant is even if he was anti-capitalist he probably wouldn't be super up front about it. I also admit that people can criticize capitalism without being completely anti-capitalist. I also know that i don't know enough about economic systems to fully discuss alternatives to capitalism and that whole dealio.
So yes, he could very likely just be critiquing greed and consumerism. I just find it fun to explore my own thoughts about things through art that i see, so i'm more likely to have an anti-capitalist reading. I also found the additional connection to the socialist illustrator particularly interesting but even using that added info it's all just discussion and theorizing and I guess more of a way for us to project our own opinions and have discussions and make stuff inspired by top. I do agree that it is important to make the distinction that it is all just theorizing fun and not a serious theory about what views tyler holds personally because that is a bit of a jump.
@@christinaleonard1510 Same goes for you, it was a good discussion! :>
@@christinaleonard1510 I 100% am thinking along the same lines you are. I'm pretty sure that this album is pushing's DEMA's views... not Clancy's or Tyler's. It is our job to think and figure it out.
@@christinaleonard1510 I'm glad someone said what I was thinking so I didn't have to type something this long 😂. I too thought it was kind of a stretch to assume that Tyler was anti capitalist.
GET BACK IN THE GAME SOLDIER THEY RELEASED CLANCY
Matthew 13:22 “The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.”
The dragon is the devil. If Clancy is truth Clancy is Jesus. Jesus dies too
@@wonderouswillow But He rises again. Stay tuned for their next album on His resurrection!
So true I can't wait for there other album of twenty one pilots and there lyrics have scripture in there music I hope one day they drop a gospel album but in there style Next year ☺️ God bless you for spending the good news God bless you and Jesus loves you .
This man is a blessing gift for the clique
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Heard this recently and i think theres something here .
Also the hole to die lyric is a neon gravestone in LOC
They need to make a TOP movie series. One for each album. Those would be so good.
When listening to the album, the lyrics are sad but mellow. It stays upbeat and "happy" which makes it seems well.. yes, happy but it really isn't deep inside. Therefore this deception is being created. The dragon.
Can we commend Tyler's drug dealer for giving him the good stuff?
If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have this awesome stuff.
His imagination is that of a hippie who eats acid for breakfast
@@arsonmusicc clancy is dead = cid
@@jaketucker7575 as Clancy is dead
Awesome connections there, that makes so much sense of their style!
Another thing about the dragon is that its iciness might embody the coldness referred to in the judge (“I know my soul’s freezing”) and in “Oh Ms Believer” (“We get colder as we grow older... your twisted thoughts are like snow on the road”). Given that both songs allude to doubt ("Ms Believer" is like "Missbeliever", and Tyler describes himself as being "best friends with [his] doubt" in the Judge), this iciness seems to be a reference to faith going cold. If so, this may mean the dragon stands for an entity who makes faith go cold (which could be “[Tyler] or the devil” if the Judge is anything to go by) by spreading deception. Thematically it would make sense if this dragon represented some controlling ominous entity behind Dema, and it would fit nicely with the parallels you can get from Christian sources, where Blurryface would parallel the "flesh" (the sinful aspect of our hearts), Dema would parallel the "world" (the systems which try to conform everyone to some false standard), and this Scaled and Icy dragon would parallel the "devil" (who is depicted as "a dragon" and "a serpent" "who deceives the whole world" in the book of Revelation (which alludes to Genesis 3) - this fits nicely with the image of the snake wrapped around the globe).
Those are my two cents, hope you all have a lovely day and God bless :)
I was hoping to find a comment about all this being Christian themed. Super cool observation, let’s be friends haha
Really well researched and a great in depth look at the walter crane connection, among other things that might have gone under the radar had you not put a spotlight on them. You clearly put a lot of work into it and it shows! Good job man
Is it lore time? I think it’s lore time.
You are twenty one pilots right the guy on sending the message now by the way you're my favorite band I just want to know more about you my name is Gabe and I'm 10 years old I'm just using my mom's account
New sub. Tyler is Christian so I can see the biblical stuff. I can't freaking wait for album💙✌l-/
yeah the whole faerie queene is a very biblical story, since i'm not religious i don't feel i have much authority on the topic, but i love seeing those interpretations!
Yes very true. But what I can’t shake is the fact that Tyler said Trench was a world with no God, yet he seems to allude to him in songs like chlorine and leave the city.
@@bigshotz1240 what i think he meant is that it’s a world that needed it and that’s why nico and the niners which have a story if their own are trying to break the cycle and infiltrate
He's talking about satan's kingdom in the spiritual realm!
These guys work so hard to make you ask yourselft what is thoses forces we fight. They are in the spiritual realm. Jesus came to give us power over the demons of this surnatural realm. Satan want you to think there is just the natural realm that exist. A majority of your problems are demons living in you.
You can't get rid of the problem without getting the demons out.
Tyler know about Jesus and everything
Go watch Wittaker and tyler joseph music
Dude, now that the new album has been teased, I CANT wait for your video concluding the whole lore!!! I just LOVEEE that we are back in business again✨
IM SCREAMING
YOU’VE OUTDONE YOURSELF AGAIN YOU AMAZING HUMAN
I want Tyler to scream "EAT THE RICH" at some point during the livestream now
ok i love how this is filmed like a documentary, like you could narrate history docs
That's actually mind-blowing, your channel is incredibly underrated.
I like how a lot of this is confirmed in Never Take It
Man your cinematography and storytelling and just everything about these videos are on point, they truly inspire me to make content
You are an actual legend man!
Keep the content up
again, a stunning dive into this thing we call a band. great job.
I wonder how much influence this man alone has had on the pilotverse
Ava (@grapefantava from Twitter) here! This video is a masterpiece... wow, and aside from the faerie queene connections, the way in which you’ve managed to connect absolutely everything and put it together like this, with so much detail and so many connections, dude this is incredible. Despair!! I forgot to talk about that character but that’s one of the reasons I stuck with the faerie queene for so long. But honestly this is amazing, thank you so much for this! :)
well said :)
It has to have a connection. This and the Bourbaki group
@@bigshotz1240 oh for sure, especially Walter crane, it all connects so well. I did a lot of research into the faerie queene (focusing on book 1) and even there, the connections are outstanding :)
i cant wait for u to make a video about everything that happened after this video, all of the rest of the sai music videos, the livestream experience, neds cozy campfire, mtv unplugged, vessel’s 10th anniversary, new dmaorg stuff
and of course everything to do with tøp7 once it comes out
you have a lot of catching up to do
sir, everything you put out is a masterpiece
NALBIS, NEW LOGO, LETTERS AND LORE JUST DROPPED, WE NEED YOU.
uh ohhh
The Return of the King
I’m a little late to seeing this video but by far the greatest explanation video I’ve watched yet for Scaled and Icy!! This is insane! Thank you for all the hard work and research you did! :)
this is art and i wish there was a way to get it onto artopia were it deserves to be
Your videos are amazing, love everything about them
YOURE BACK!!!!
you my friend, are magic. everything you create is so captivating.
DOWN IN THE FOREST, WE’LL SING A CHORUS -> GLOWING EYES -> THE OUTSIDE MUSIC VIDEO WITH NEDS
OMG THEY MIGHT PLAY THOSE IN ICY TOURRR AND ALSO MABE LOVELY
How come no one talks about the fact that the instrumentals of Shy Away and Choker sound like those old video games soundtrack from Sega Genesis or Nintendo?
Just subbed and about to binge all your videos
I’ve missed diving into the lore of TOP ☺️ it’s been years. Glad to be back 😄
GREAT video! Plus, I LOVE the use of Disasterpeace's HLD track!
The quality on these videos is always through the roof, really nice work. Can’t wait to hear more as the album comes out!
absolutely amazing video nalbis. i loved theorizing with you in the discord server and seeing the result of all that is great. can't wait for more
dude I've been following ur theories since ur trench videos first came out and when i saw scaled and icy come out I knew u would be able to crack it
Awesome man. Thank you for this and all your other videos. Truly amazes me how well you do this.
I GOT LITERAL CHILLS WATCHING THIS I HAD TO STARE AT A WALL FOR 10 MINUTES AFTER IT WAS DONE TO COME BACK TO REALITY. WOW. You're such an amazing video maker and everything u said makes so much sense. Tyler is some genius istg
I genuinely cant believe its been two years already, I remember watching this when it came out, I hope you make similar videos for the next album
ill likely only make one more once everything is wrapped up, covering absolutely everything in one master-video.
thank you nalbis for existing
We need you again, king
really enjoying these videos! have been a bit distant from what's going on and these serve as great explanations. keep it up jimmy!
thanks my guy! never thought i'd be pulled back into it but yeah it's always super intriguing!
love what you're doing too
Can I just say I love your channel
I am continually captivated by your voice and the way you present these videos.
I'm certain everyone is already familiar with this tidbit, but for anyone who does not know:
Hearing Jimmy talk about the album cover reminded me of the video Justin Anderson put out on his channel about 8 months ago?
Regarding the digital copy of the Blurryface album. Those two blacker than black hemicircles on the left? side of the front cover.
They line up perfectly with Trash's eyes. (And possibly with Clifford's also.)
And they are so easy to overlook, or not even notice at all. And once again, Tyler's obsession with negative space as his guiding thematic spirit forever now asserts itself again.
Most essentially, the way that negative space design is often totally undetectable until it is seen. The same way I couldn't see the cross in Tyler's tattoo until I saw the cross in Tyler's tattoo.
And speaking of Tyler's tattoos..what about those jumpsuits?
That the damn backing band wears!
Okay. That is all I have at this time. Later, suki
I'm SO happy you're back. I hope you're doing well and I've missed you! ❤️
The Hyper Light Drifter soundtrack. Thank you.
Good quality of video, great lighting, microphone, camera, aesthetic, you go straight to the point. I wish you had a bigger audience, thanks for your videos!
I hope there will be more videos from you :)
Main protagonist has to be Clancy, remember tyler said in an interview that for their next album (SAI) they would like to tackle a character that hasn't had the proper exposition yet, so my guess is that Clancy is indeed Red Cross
The mug on the choker music video says “keep you’re sunny days” those are lyrics from mulberry street
I just listened to your podcast and I loved it! I can't wait to see more content from you whenever you want to make it.
we need a scaled and icy album analysis man!
your videos give me genuine serotonin
I am truly moved by your work, you've opened undiscovered paths of my mind. And I love this 4:3 format, this is not just a video it is the art. Wish to know you in person... Stay blessed!
at the end of "The Outside" one of the bishops has yellow eyes, the same as trash, and also at the end it shows a dragon with YELLOW EYES, so maybe by killing the bishop they were trying to kill the dragon
Need more of your content plz 😭
Tyler Joseph is a genius.. And your analysis is really good!
Bless you, surely there’ll be a vid for the full album ? ❤️
I find myself getting excited for your videos more than their content itself lol
Nalbis back at it again with another piece of art
Glowing eyes, like the song, one of my favorites:)
thank you, such a good video. btw also love the screen format. very neat
the funniest part is it’s either they really did think it thru like we think or they started building things up as the fan’s imagination was going crazy
i personally think it’s a bit of everything.
Let’s take SAI for an example. At first Tyler said that he wrote the album because of the pandemic, it wasn’t originally the next release but he ended up writing it and that’s it.
And the fan started saying, since Level of Concern actually, that there was more to it. Turned out being a propaganda, the Bishops using them to try and distract us from what was really going on.
And there’s a critic that is recurrent with the album : sonically, it’s almost perfect but it lacks personality, that thing that makes TOP, TOP.
And don’t even get me started on the role Paul Meany plays.
Paul Meany, co writer, producer and even co performer on Trench was entirely absent for this record except for the last song, even tho he was a big figure in Trench (which according to some theories is actually the first one since it fits more the Trench theme. The reason why it is last may be that it serves as a transition between the unnatural upbeat tone of SAI to a more darker tone of the next record). Paul was the only producer on Trench, the only co-writer and the only co performer on the entire album (you can hear his voice on Chlorine, Bandito in which he’s referred with the we in « this is the song *we* made, and many other songs, supporting Tyler), he is a huge important figure in the lore. It sounds maybe too crazy but i really don’t think objectively, they would’ve left the person that helped translate their vision so well in Trench.
he was basically a bandito too, like Josh Dun (a bandito being like a revolutionary, someone trying to get Tyler out of the influence of the bishops and help him escape Dema)
Josh does that by being his friend, part of his support system in addition of many other things. Paul does that by conveying his creativity and helping him create a way to express his feelings.
I believe he’s really to be praised for the quality of the album. Bluryface was written without him and is, according to the theories, an album that was actually written under the influence of Nico, one of the bishops also known as Bluryface « My name’s bluryface and i care what you think ». (this lyric make me think the fear nico might represent is the fear of other’s opinion, the fear of criticism/judgement which is, as an artist something that can be really hard to overcome. Bluryface can also represent that and the fear of not being able to succeed, the song Stressed out turning around those themes. But that’s another debate.
It is interesting to mention because while Bluryface was really watered down for a more accessible commercial success and talks a lot abt the desire to be on the radio while wanting to music that he wants, Trench was, according to all of us, really not watered down at all. It is what Bluryface may have been if it sounded less pop, Trench is probably the music Tyler really wanted to make, something that went in the complete opposite of what is trending.
now objectively, there’s only a few reasons why Paul wouldn’t have been invited on the SAI project, especially since he took a huge part in the making of Trench and actually concreting the concept album. Before Trench no one knew it was a concept album, ppl thought they were just being weird and emo.
One of those reasons being that he wasn’t available but that’s really unlikely since he hasn’t been reported sick or anything.
and his participation in the last track actually cancel the « he wasn’t available theory ». Leaving us with the theory : he’s way too close to Tyler and too implicated in the revolution to be able to make something that basically praises the bishops. In a certain way, SAI still has some positive themes, but it’s too positive, it sounds for most of it like those affirmations you see on instagram to make people feel better, it doesn’t feel real.
It’s like saying to someone that is depressed, if you feel sad then don’t, you can do it, instead of tellin them to seek the professional help they need to heal.
you have trauma? well don’t think about the past, live in the present, enjoy the moment.
Mental illnesses don’t work like that.
So yeah all that to just support the theories that SAI is in fact a propaganda and Paul Meany is also a god. I was actually surprised no one mentioned it before since generally when album come out, people talk a lot about the producers behind. Paul’s absence on this one really surprised me given the chemistry they showed in Trench. Which led me to believe this is actually done on purpose.
For those who might think that he would’ve let Josh off this project too if that was true, well Josh is the drummer and i highly doubt Tyler would be able to do anything without his band mate. While Trench was a collaboration with Paul Meany, Top is a band to begin with. Also that can be interpreted as Josh being with him in every phase, whether it’s irl or in his mind (many ppl argue Josh wasn’t actually there in the livestream, it was Tyler’s imagination, so maybe even on tour, it was Josh but in the lore, Josh was only there in Tyler’s imagination)
Finally, i’ve noticed on the tour Tyler has the black neck, black hands, something reminiscent of the Bluryface era that he didn’t have during Trench and that overall supports the theory, confirmed in the Jumpsuit mv, that bluryface was written under bluryface influence. The conclusion is that Tyler is probably back under Bluryface’s influence. The album also being a lot more pop and light, as if adjusting itself to what’s currently trending, giving us the most commercially digestible version of the band ever.
So yeah definitely don’t trust SAI
very good video !! also i just get so happy hearing u using the soundtrack form my favorite game in such dramatic but good ways
That's more entertaining than any TV show I've seen LMAO
i hope they make a new album soon so he can upload another video
So glad you’re back to help explain this clever bullshit to my galaxy brain
The time has come, dearest @nalbis. We await your response to the new era 2024
Excellent work, I hope to see your findings on the new album soon
Your videos and explanations are the best💠
I actually think you’re my favourite person in the internet
Your stuff makes me so happy thank you