The machine is designed to handle mild steel up to 5/8" round, not the 3/4" cut in the video. The plate thickness is limited to 5/16". Most of what was videod was out of the spec range for the machine. Use a bandsaw or plasma cutter for thicker stuff and save yourself headaches. The machine works great if you stay within specs. I set up my 20 Ton hydraulic press to handle thick stuff like this and got tooling from a company in Ohio.
stephen reamer When this video was shot in 2012 I called Bailey told them what I was looking for and a machine that could handle that This is what was recommended.. Bailey has since lowerd their specs on what this machine can cut.. with that said we now have band saws and plasma cutters; )
Would it handle up to 3/16 sufficiently? I have a plasma cutter and band saw but for repeated jobs of 1/16"-3/16" thickness this could come in very handy if it did those thicknesses well. I plan on getting the punch to do square holes for carriage bolts. I make a lot of assembly tables and other tables for people for their wood working shops.
im so glad i saw this a few months ago i was ready to order one until i saw your video, i ended up saving more money and buying an ironworker from edwards...
Well i like the video, an honest down to earth way of showing the faults, funny aswel the hanging on the bar, who cares about the gum chewing, people seem to wine about anything these days, the demonstration was real and interesting, my opinion from the London UK.
I am set in the in the best position. Prior to purchasing i spoke with a Baileigh representative. I was insured that the SW-22M Manual Five Station Ironworker would work for all my applications This was not true from day one, Brand new out of the box . I called and emailed Bailegh for months. At first i just wanted it fixed. no help than I wanted my cash back. back in 2012 I asked Bailegh to post a video of the SW-22M Manual Five Station Ironworker Shear in action. Nothing still to this day
I suppose that logic would suggest that simple leverage would be impossible to cut through 2" x 1/4" angle or the other thick stuff. That's what hydraulics are for. I always take the Manf specs and multiply by .5 to get a real world working spec. Especially with Stainless
I bought the same unit 3 years ago, sold it six month later. The compagnie is not honest with the capacity... when i was able to cut 1.5 x 1.5 x 1/8" angle iron, it was so torn that i had to use a big hammer to fold it back...
I was going to order one just for cutting angle, thanks for saving me the headache and I see 80 thumbs down, really?.....so it'would be my guess Baileigh's has about 80 people?
That’s a nice shear but like most of them, they’re very optimistic about its limits. They fail to consider the arm and user. For heavier stuff, a cold cut chop saw, or bandsaw is the way to go
The manufacturer's testing lab probably hires a 275 lb defensive lineman to yank the lever. So, yeah, it'll cut the thick stuff - if you are a 275 lb defensive lineman.
Thank you so very kindly because I was getting ready to spend $1,000 on the other one the one with the punch thank you very kindly that means I won't waste my time and money
Obviously it didn't work for your needs...what would you think of using it on thinner stuff.... 0.125 iron angle or 0.250 aluminum flat bar etc? New you can pick one up for less than $500 bucks now. I've got a bunch of saw cut stuff now that I'm thinking this could cut faster and no more deburring.
I was agreeing except where I believe you were putting more like 250lbs of force to move that lever. If you just put all your weight on it, I don't believe it would have gone through. I got a 12"X.25" shear on CL- The same exact thing as the one grainger sells for $250. I think the hole is .75" Maybe I will make a video where I hang weights from it until it shears the rod. anything more than 10 gauge, it flexes and just pushes the metal down instead of cutting it. If it sounds to good to be true
I need a manual angle shear for 20-gauge sheet metal. Do you think this would work for that? Or do you have any suggestions on a tool that would work better?
Good Video , but would anyone be able to tell me, if a 20 inch one , 500mm would it be able to cut, 6mm plate steel. I have no idea, i should have my 20 inch Sedy in a few day's, but would love to hear some anwers, on my question. Cheers Karl in Australia .
See.......what you were supposed to is anchor a big snatch block to your driveway, then pull on the handle with the winch that's mounted to your truck!
Jacob E. At the time i shot the Video years a go the spec for Round bar was .866... I do have a Screen shot of the manufacturer specs at the end of this Video from that time ....
Jacob E I am amused that Baileugh Has droped The specs and Significantly lowered the price of this machine ...When i Bought my machine it was around $1,800....
Jacob E this is the exact same machine and a closer look at there specs comparing them To their original specs have drop all the thickness At-least by half if not More .. not just the one for round bar !
i thought that was a possibility about them changing specs or whatever. sorry you had went through that and paid even more for it. for 500 bucks seems like a decent buy if that is the range you want to work in. maybe your review gave them pause to reconsider.
yes i did after many phone calls and emails the conclusion was to return the machine.. Further investigation i am not the only person that has issues with this unit...
They must have KillerArt. Cos the specs he is claiming in the vid aren't on their page. Not far under, but physics is a rough times four increase when dimension increases. So cutting 6/8 vs 5/8 is like adding 50% the workload. Even though it's only a 20% increase in a single dimension.
Ya I Thought the same thing ... i Have owned and used outher equipment from this company and had no Issues. .. but the First time I did and tryed to contact there tech support thay did want to anything to do with this machine. Thay even accused me of modifing the sheer ( I never did shuch a thing) .. I asked Bailey to post a video of them useing this and or one of there custmers , nothing ever came of that .at the time I ended up buying a cold Saw.
A Thumbs UP FOR YOU ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Surprised,The Bar isnt Bent,,, Baileigh was Allways Priced On There Name,,, What was The Cost????????? WOW,, a Used Iron worker,,is the way To GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks,, You Will Have some Big Arms, SOOOON,,, Beliegh will Give this for freee after seeing This VID!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks,, I Know what co to STAY aaway From,,, Jack,,,
jokers clowns,I called the technical department with question about tonnage generated with their hole punch the expert had no proper answers, although he did know what his name was
Would help if you were trying to shear within the machine's rated capacity … Their website says 3/8 x 4" bar stock and 1/8 x 2 x 2 angle … Just sayin …
When I bought this machine back in 2012 the specs listed on the website were higher then now the company has lowered the tolerances or thickness that rhis machine will cut .. your better off buying a cold saw for the price of this machine..
In My Option, seeing the date,, Balieigh, Has Had to done Some thing,or as Doughllas Allen said, we should All send a Copy Of this to Bailiegh!!!!!!!!!!,,I Know O WILL,we work to Hard To Piss away, 2 K for a Hunk Of Junk!!!!!!,for When after explaining what you Needed1,, Hope You Made Out,, Jack,,,,
there are tonnage charts online for shearing punching and breaking any thickness of steel anyone who is going to buy an iron worker should look at these charts to determine how much tonnage you will need to do your job and not end up with a piece of junk like you did it needs to be hydraulic if you are working with anything but sheet metal
Bailegh employees should be embarrassed of the false advertising with spec’s that are dishonest and bail on the industrial part of there name. Weak sauce
its to heavy I was trying to buy the best of the best This machine is not worth the cash..Its cheaper to buy tables saw cold saw or even a band saw than this machine.
Just a word of advice next time you do a video take the gum out of your mouth. Listening to someone out of breath smacking their gum is worse than nails on a chalkboard.
th-cam.com/video/3sh9ix3XeSI/w-d-xo.html. George sounds like I will Dedicate my next video to You chewing gum while simultaneously scratching a chalkboard with my fingernails.
The machine is designed to handle mild steel up to 5/8" round, not the 3/4" cut in the video. The plate thickness is limited to 5/16". Most of what was videod was out of the spec range for the machine. Use a bandsaw or plasma cutter for thicker stuff and save yourself headaches. The machine works great if you stay within specs. I set up my 20 Ton hydraulic press to handle thick stuff like this and got tooling from a company in Ohio.
stephen reamer When this video was shot in 2012 I called Bailey told them what I was looking for and a machine that could handle that This is what was recommended.. Bailey has since lowerd their specs on what this machine can cut.. with that said we now have band saws and plasma cutters; )
Would it handle up to 3/16 sufficiently? I have a plasma cutter and band saw but for repeated jobs of 1/16"-3/16" thickness this could come in very handy if it did those thicknesses well. I plan on getting the punch to do square holes for carriage bolts. I make a lot of assembly tables and other tables for people for their wood working shops.
Let's go, vote it up and run Baileigh out of town !
im so glad i saw this a few months ago i was ready to order one until i saw your video, i ended up saving more money and buying an ironworker from edwards...
Well i like the video, an honest down to earth way of showing the faults, funny aswel the hanging on the bar, who cares about the gum chewing, people seem to wine about anything these days, the demonstration was real and interesting, my opinion from the London UK.
I am set in the in the best position. Prior to purchasing i spoke with a Baileigh representative. I was insured that the SW-22M Manual Five Station Ironworker would work for all my applications This was not true from day one, Brand new out of the box . I called and emailed Bailegh for months. At first i just wanted it fixed. no help than I wanted my cash back. back in 2012 I asked Bailegh to post a video of the SW-22M Manual Five Station Ironworker Shear in action. Nothing still to this day
Thanks for keeping this up for a warning for the rest of us.
Thanks to people like you and youtube, companies can't get away with this sort of deception. What's more, they get a bad name in no time.
I suppose that logic would suggest that simple leverage would be impossible to cut through 2" x 1/4" angle or the other thick stuff. That's what hydraulics are for. I always take the Manf specs and multiply by .5 to get a real world working spec. Especially with Stainless
If I had them as a sponsor I'd have it all.
Thanks for the time to post this and the WARNING not to buy.
Thank you for this honest review !!
I bought the same unit 3 years ago, sold it six month later. The compagnie is not honest with the capacity... when i was able to cut 1.5 x 1.5 x 1/8" angle iron, it was so torn that i had to use a big hammer to fold it back...
Very good video glad to see somebody's honest to show others
Isn't there a different hole for the pivot point? It makes the machine have more leverage.
Thanks for the review
No Sale
I was going to order one just for cutting angle, thanks for saving me the headache and I see 80 thumbs down, really?.....so it'would be my guess Baileigh's has about 80 people?
They have lowered the specs for this machine since i have posted it years a go ... I ended up going with a cold saw and have never looked back
That’s a nice shear but like most of them, they’re very optimistic about its limits. They fail to consider the arm and user. For heavier stuff, a cold cut chop saw, or bandsaw is the way to go
The manufacturer's testing lab probably hires a 275 lb defensive lineman to yank the lever. So, yeah, it'll cut the thick stuff - if you are a 275 lb defensive lineman.
Thanks for showing this.
Thank you so very kindly because I was getting ready to spend $1,000 on the other one the one with the punch thank you very kindly that means I won't waste my time and money
Heaver metal, and more leverage, for the cuts.I would be sending this thing back.
I hope they will refund your money 💰 For this nonsense
Thanks for review
Obviously it didn't work for your needs...what would you think of using it on thinner stuff.... 0.125 iron angle or 0.250 aluminum flat bar etc? New you can pick one up for less than $500 bucks now. I've got a bunch of saw cut stuff now that I'm thinking this could cut faster and no more deburring.
It's still a heavy duty machine for being manually operated.
Looks good
I was agreeing except where I believe you were putting more like 250lbs of force to move that lever. If you just put all your weight on it, I don't believe it would have gone through. I got a 12"X.25" shear on CL- The same exact thing as the one grainger sells for $250. I think the hole is .75" Maybe I will make a video where I hang weights from it until it shears the rod. anything more than 10 gauge, it flexes and just pushes the metal down instead of cutting it. If it sounds to good to be true
And If you shoot a video send me a link i would like to see it. and sounds like a deal for $250 . unlike the $2000 I spent on the sw-22m Thanks Jim
i saw the video from the company but the guy cut 1/8" thick plate very easy and hole too but 1/4" i will like see it
Thanks dude
Wish I had watched this before buying one. I got the punch combo. The punch really sucks also.
No way that machine will cut that angle, don't need spec's to tell that. Now they say 5/8 max on the round
I need a manual angle shear for 20-gauge sheet metal. Do you think this would work for that? Or do you have any suggestions on a tool that would work better?
Good Video , but would anyone be able to tell me, if a 20 inch one , 500mm would it be able to cut, 6mm plate steel. I have no idea, i should have my 20 inch Sedy in a few day's, but would love to hear some anwers, on my question. Cheers Karl in Australia .
Thank you for the review. It was helpful.
See.......what you were supposed to is anchor a big snatch block to your driveway, then pull on the handle with the winch that's mounted to your truck!
Any way you can attach a hydraulic ram to it? probably better to just sell it and cut your losses. Band Saw might be the better option
i sold it years Ago
Kya price h es ka
thanks for sharing , i can cross that off !
hmmm..... the specs you quote or the machine are not what the website list. only rated for 5/8 bar, and smaller other stuff too....
www.baileigh.com/metalworking/ironworkers-punches/manual-ironworkers-punches
Jacob E. At the time i shot the Video years a go the spec for Round bar was .866... I do have a Screen shot of the manufacturer specs at the end of this Video from that time ....
Jacob E I am amused that Baileugh Has droped The specs and Significantly lowered the price of this machine ...When i Bought my machine it was around $1,800....
Jacob E this is the exact same machine and a closer look at there specs comparing them To their original specs have drop all the thickness At-least by half if not More .. not just the one for round bar !
i thought that was a possibility about them changing specs or whatever. sorry you had went through that and paid even more for it. for 500 bucks seems like a decent buy if that is the range you want to work in. maybe your review gave them pause to reconsider.
Baileigh is a chinese distributor...
If the machine is strong enough, put a tube over the handle
This was so many years ago I honestly don't remember sorry
Buy a band saw insted!
Band saw? Hell a hack saw would be easier than this thing!!
Hi . Have you ever put 4"×.25" flat bar in it ?
I sold this junk Year's ago
180 bouncing is probably more like 250-300. Isn't there a "perfect" position for the concentric to be in so you get the most reduction in speed?
That is really disappointing. Did you follow up with the company?
yes i did after many phone calls and emails the conclusion was to return the machine.. Further investigation i am not the only person that has issues with this unit...
+KillerArt You would think they would have changed the Specs after this.
They must have KillerArt. Cos the specs he is claiming in the vid aren't on their page. Not far under, but physics is a rough times four increase when dimension increases. So cutting 6/8 vs 5/8 is like adding 50% the workload. Even though it's only a 20% increase in a single dimension.
Wow that's disappointing. I thought that was a good company. I was just going to order one.
Ya I Thought the same thing ... i Have owned and used outher equipment from this company and had no Issues. .. but the First time I did and tryed to contact there tech support thay did want to anything to do with this machine. Thay even accused me of modifing the sheer ( I never did shuch a thing) .. I asked Bailey to post a video of them useing this and or one of there custmers , nothing ever came of that .at the time I ended up buying a cold Saw.
I am sorry that you had that problem with them/it. I was seriously going to buy one so thanks so much for posting this video.
A Thumbs UP FOR YOU ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Surprised,The Bar isnt Bent,,, Baileigh was Allways Priced On There Name,,, What was The Cost????????? WOW,, a Used Iron worker,,is the way To GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks,, You Will Have some Big Arms, SOOOON,,, Beliegh will Give this for freee after seeing This VID!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks,, I Know what co to STAY aaway From,,, Jack,,,
this is a very beautiful cutter i want to buy one piece i live in PAKISTAN what is the method of impoting thsi piece
Buy some Mitutoyo verniers!
jokers clowns,I called the technical department with question about tonnage generated with their hole punch
the expert had no proper answers, although he did know what his name was
G H I N A
Chopper jig stand 😂
Would help if you were trying to shear within the machine's rated capacity … Their website says 3/8 x 4" bar stock and 1/8 x 2 x 2 angle … Just sayin …
When I bought this machine back in 2012 the specs listed on the website were higher then now the company has lowered the tolerances or thickness that rhis machine will cut .. your better off buying a cold saw for the price of this machine..
Did you get free hat tho lol
In My Option, seeing the date,, Balieigh, Has Had to done Some thing,or as Doughllas Allen said, we should All send a Copy Of this to Bailiegh!!!!!!!!!!,,I Know O WILL,we work to Hard To Piss away, 2 K for a Hunk Of Junk!!!!!!,for When after explaining what you Needed1,, Hope You Made Out,, Jack,,,,
what he was chewing gum ? thanks for the review. I almost bought one but now I'm glad I didn't.
there are tonnage charts online for shearing punching and breaking any thickness of steel anyone who is going to buy an iron worker should look at these charts to determine how much tonnage you will need to do your job and not end up with a piece of junk like you did it needs to be hydraulic if you are working with anything but sheet metal
Bailegh employees should be embarrassed of the false advertising with spec’s that are dishonest and bail on the industrial part of there name. Weak sauce
Zakaz bersak keladimi
ALMOST SEEMS LIKE ITS SETUP 1 TOOTH OFF MAYBE 2. JUST A THOUGHT
its to heavy I was trying to buy the best of the best This machine is not worth the cash..Its cheaper to buy tables saw cold saw or even a band saw than this machine.
Нафига городить огород если есть болгарка?
Chinese
Yea this machine is for 10 gauge angle and 3/16 flat bar. Your way over working that thing haha
No not at the time of purchase i was within the spec and purchased it direct .They have lowerd the specifications sense this video was shot
I listened the spec's in the vid
So essentially the thing is a piece of crap!!!
Very unsafe
hydraulic
Hasan Kazani this one is manual.. Hydrolic is the way to go.
Stop dude, just stop before you get a hernia. Use an angle grinder. You will hurt yourself if you keep using this machine
get a refund
I did in full
Just a word of advice next time you do a video take the gum out of your mouth. Listening to someone out of breath smacking their gum is worse than nails on a chalkboard.
th-cam.com/video/3sh9ix3XeSI/w-d-xo.html. George sounds like I will Dedicate my next video to You chewing gum while simultaneously scratching a chalkboard with my fingernails.
What qualifies you to give advice in the first place?