I enjoyed the humor in this vid. Nice cut to Dawid. The thorough review is great as always, but you really nailed the pacing and delivery, IMO. Well done!
Beelink are throwing these at a lot of TH-camrs at the moment. Nice to see you getting noticed by companies for freebies, makes getting more content made easier.
Thanks 😁 At the moment, it's mainly mini PC manufacturers -which is great for me, as I love mini PCs. Some of my regular audience don't feel the same way, though!
This is really cool as a solution to a problem with mini PC’s and using external GPU’s! But if you’re willing to put up with this much faff and rigmarole you might as well just build a SFF system and have a system with a similar footprint and more powerful desktop hardware! (I might be bias though because I’m a SFF PC user myself)
I have this with a 4080 super. Performs on par with desktop. I love it because I can take it apart and travel with it, which is not possible to do comfortably with even the smallest desktop. I take this apart and put all the components in a small handheld pelican case. Super convenient.
Honestly eGPUs just need Thunderbolt 5. Would be cool to see a mini PC with a Core Ultra 9 285HX, and 6400 MT/s memory due to that being the new out of the box standard with TB5, connect it to a TB5 eGPU enclosure and you basically removed the bottleneck.
The motherboard has to be cerifited for S.L.I. you should be find with all AMD RDNA type GPU, they all support mGPU. No need for certifited boards on AMD side. Cherynoblyite can use two rtx 4090 in mGPU with driver 566.
I hope this trend of pci express on a mini pc continues to evolve and get more accessible and widespread. I think having a hybrid pc like this could be very useful in some niche case I can't think of right now, I'm not joking, I really like the idea.
GTi 12 + EX dock is £550. Get a 3080Ti Founders out of CEX for £500 and you have an incredibly capable and very compact PC capable of 4K gaming. I have a 12900K + 3080Ti desktop and it is brilliant but massive as in a 680x case. This solution from Beelink is very tempting.
Very curious that as designer of both PC and Dock there is no elegant solution offered for AC passthrough from Dock to PC. Perhaps we'll get a "V2" some day with that plus support for 450W(3x150W)+75W(slot) GPU power. AND puts the PC on the backplate side of the GPU.
Don't get me wrong, I do find this method very intuitive. However, the initial appeal of a mini PC, to me, is the form factor. I feel like if someone were to go all the way to buy a dedicated graphics card, then they might as well just go ahead and buy a full-fledged PC. If desk space were the main point of consideration, then I don't see any difference if you decided to go with this min PC + EGPU dock + GPU combo since it would most likely take the same amount of space as a regular PC while being even less secure.
i have seen a benchmark in games and im impressed by this little package. . It has a 12 core cpu and a GPU with GTX 1660 / GTX 980ti performance in such a small package. if u told that people 10 years ago, nobody would have believed u alone the thermal restrictions seem to be impossible to overcome in such a tiny case. the price is hefty, but still ok when u see what this little powerhouse offers. its honestly nothing for me, but i love the engeneering behind it. its defenitely nice for traveling.
My concern with this would be that GPU power and PCIE connectors are only rated for a fairly low number of disconnect/reconnect cycles, but this setup implies a use case where you might be disconnecting/reconnecting the GPU fairly often. I suppose if you had an old GPU sitting in a drawer then maybe it'd make sense to put it to use in this kind if setup. It's a bit of a cludgey solution though.
First 20 seconds: “And all of them have their flaws, until possibly, now”. Proceeds to pan around a mini PC starving half of the GPUs fans because of absurdly dumb positioning. HOW COULD THEY OVERLOOK THIS
Hello Mr Iceberg, I have some feedback for the video's thumbnail: 1. I don't think that the purple background suits the "device preview" 2. It doesn't have any eye-catching things like gen alpha slan. /j I LOVED the humour in this video though Mr Iceberg :)
wow beelink has an external PCI-E 4 outside the case. 8 line of PCI-E 4 is fine. I not intrerested in the dock as I could build better DIY style for a lot less, but having an exturnal x8 PCI-E 4 is a winner for the mini boxes as point of these boxes is mobility and then at home I could lug up a dGPU and game.
Would you try installing a high speed, like 6400MT/s, Kingston HyperX Impact kit to see whether it'd work or how it'd affect the 1% lows on the Meteor Lake?
Bro, what is the point of this thing? If you're just going to add on all the stuff why not just buy an actual PC? Who is this targeted at? Whats the purpose?
For people that always travel but not interested in laptops. This mini pc + small-slim 14" monitor + slim keyboard & mouse, can fit nicely in ur backpack. They can bring this mini pc to the office for work and attach it to the beelink with gpu at home for gaming. A niche product though
I want a mini ryzen with a 780m apu with pcie 4.0 x8 and a dock like this one. Reason, as to why removable: I want to turn the mini pc into a handheld, ala rog ally, but also be able to use it as a full desktop pc, by just docking it. I don't have that kind of money, but that is my dream project.
Totally unrelated but it seems to me you are the right techie to ask... Whats the strongest GPU would you pair with 4770k ? I would like to play Resident evil 4 remake and my 780ti dont cut the mustard anymore
@@chico_fiesta no problem bro, buy used to save money for a better cooler if you wanna oc a little bit with the i7, and make sure you have dual channel ram and an ssd if you don't already
@@PelonixYT i have corsair dd3 limited oc edition 16 gb dual channel RAM. Decent thermaltake (frio i think)air cooler but not so sure it could handle the OC. Is rx 6600 near the 5700xt performance cause i can get that new cheap in Croatia?
I thought years ago with the obsession with maximum glass, such as computer cases with not just one but two glass panels, that very shortly this obsession would look as outdated as bell bottomed pants became in the 1970s. Why is most of the desktop computer case there, especially if the cases aren't really doing that great a job funneling air from inside / outside to cool? This is just the continuing process of the rationalization of computer cases? Less is more.
I don't get why people are buying mini PC's and then putting a dedicated gpu with them in a dock. At that point it uses as much space on your desk as a desktop.
Honestly, Ai generated stuff is a immediate red flag for content farms or low effort content for me. Despite the quality of the video, I hate the intro with a passion as well and nearly made me click away
I would be so worried about breaking this, you don’t really want to plug and unplug pcie over and over. Just bump it the wrong way and you could bork it probably.
I still think the most possible solutions for eGPU is for Laptop but with raw PCIe X16 Lanes slot. Not USB-C or USB4 connection. The best candidate for this, is Framework Laptop. They already have patented design for swappable Laptop GPU, so why not include an empty PCIe X16 slot instead? So user can use full sized GPU whenever possible. Of course user have to provide its own Power Supply.
Literally zero laptop/mobile CPUs have 16 available PCIe lanes. They're a *all* x8 with 8 dedicated for the interface between CPU and iGPU; Intel and AMD. Even AMD's (desktop) APUs 3000, 4000, and 5000 series APUs are 8x, 3.0. (8000 are x16 but are still 4.0 vs 5.0 of 7/9000 series CPUs.)
Also yeah. I personally don't see the point of docked Mini PC's e-GPU's are ideal on Laptops, not really this. Build a full PC will be cheaper anyways.
Who is this actually for though? In almost every instance, just build a PC or buy a prebuilt. Or build a cheap PC and buy a Steam Deck. Or just use a Steam Deck.
i mean at this point why not just build a small PC like those 5-6L ones everybody is so caught up about? or hell even just a capable laptop, makes little to no sense after these big docks whatever new minipc video just drop honey get the popcorn
@@notreal5311if your traveling a laptop will be 1000x better. If you take mini pc you need to bring monitor with a bunch of cables and mouse and keyboard. Also you can’t even use it on a plane. Literally useless
@user-pb2zf8xx3u depends what you want out of your system. Laptops are $$$ and fry your balls, have gimped mobile GPUs, etc. I personally wouldn't buy one but having done SFF gaming PCs in the past I can see how it might appeal to some.
My guess is marketing had something to do with it. If they put the pc on the other side, pictures of it assembled would either only be showing the gpu only or the bottom of the Mini PC and you wouldn't be able to see their logo. Edit:typo
The GPU has more than enough "breathing" space. You can look at the clock speeds of people who put vertical mount GPUs right against glass. Spoiler: it's perfectly fine.
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I enjoyed the humor in this vid. Nice cut to Dawid. The thorough review is great as always, but you really nailed the pacing and delivery, IMO. Well done!
Beelink are throwing these at a lot of TH-camrs at the moment. Nice to see you getting noticed by companies for freebies, makes getting more content made easier.
Thanks 😁 At the moment, it's mainly mini PC manufacturers -which is great for me, as I love mini PCs. Some of my regular audience don't feel the same way, though!
@@IcebergTech Great for us as well because more videos.
You can't please everyone, so just keep up the good work.
This is really cool as a solution to a problem with mini PC’s and using external GPU’s! But if you’re willing to put up with this much faff and rigmarole you might as well just build a SFF system and have a system with a similar footprint and more powerful desktop hardware! (I might be bias though because I’m a SFF PC user myself)
Might be worth it on the power efficiency side. About 20w is consumed by the GPU when not using it.
I have this with a 4080 super. Performs on par with desktop. I love it because I can take it apart and travel with it, which is not possible to do comfortably with even the smallest desktop. I take this apart and put all the components in a small handheld pelican case. Super convenient.
Honestly eGPUs just need Thunderbolt 5. Would be cool to see a mini PC with a Core Ultra 9 285HX, and 6400 MT/s memory due to that being the new out of the box standard with TB5, connect it to a TB5 eGPU enclosure and you basically removed the bottleneck.
"Or the graphics card, your choice really." 😂
I wasn't expecting that
@@MisterKrakens me neither
Got me smiling too.
Timestamp pls
@@sarthakbalodhi14973:18
6:19 lmao, love Dawids humor.
I gotta ask, can you SLI two cards with the dock and the thunderbolt port? 🙃
You know, I never tried…
The motherboard has to be cerifited for S.L.I. you should be find with all AMD RDNA type GPU, they all support mGPU. No need for certifited boards on AMD side.
Cherynoblyite can use two rtx 4090 in mGPU with driver 566.
This kinda breaks the purpose of a miniPC. But it's interesting as a novelty.
Depends what your purpose for it actually is. If you want a "computer module" a minipc works great.
I hope this trend of pci express on a mini pc continues to evolve and get more accessible and widespread. I think having a hybrid pc like this could be very useful in some niche case I can't think of right now, I'm not joking, I really like the idea.
GTi 12 + EX dock is £550. Get a 3080Ti Founders out of CEX for £500 and you have an incredibly capable and very compact PC capable of 4K gaming. I have a 12900K + 3080Ti desktop and it is brilliant but massive as in a 680x case. This solution from Beelink is very tempting.
Very curious that as designer of both PC and Dock there is no elegant solution offered for AC passthrough from Dock to PC.
Perhaps we'll get a "V2" some day with that plus support for 450W(3x150W)+75W(slot) GPU power. AND puts the PC on the backplate side of the GPU.
I always Thought That I could maybe Hook up a GPU to a NUC
Neat idea but I don't really know what the market there is for this.
Egpus are needed for laptops, really
I’ve never liked mini pcs but this looks like a good solution for the lack of gpu power. I might get one for a work and gaming small computer setup.
Don't get me wrong, I do find this method very intuitive. However, the initial appeal of a mini PC, to me, is the form factor. I feel like if someone were to go all the way to buy a dedicated graphics card, then they might as well just go ahead and buy a full-fledged PC. If desk space were the main point of consideration, then I don't see any difference if you decided to go with this min PC + EGPU dock + GPU combo since it would most likely take the same amount of space as a regular PC while being even less secure.
i have seen a benchmark in games and im impressed by this little package.
. It has a 12 core cpu and a GPU with GTX 1660 / GTX 980ti performance in such a small package.
if u told that people 10 years ago, nobody would have believed u
alone the thermal restrictions seem to be impossible to overcome in such a tiny case.
the price is hefty, but still ok when u see what this little powerhouse offers.
its honestly nothing for me, but i love the engeneering behind it.
its defenitely nice for traveling.
Love the new intro! your footage is always so well shot! you deserve way more subs sir!
My concern with this would be that GPU power and PCIE connectors are only rated for a fairly low number of disconnect/reconnect cycles, but this setup implies a use case where you might be disconnecting/reconnecting the GPU fairly often.
I suppose if you had an old GPU sitting in a drawer then maybe it'd make sense to put it to use in this kind if setup. It's a bit of a cludgey solution though.
Its perfect. Just needs larger power supply for future proofability and needs to be able to used by other companies with the mini pc
I ordered the minisforum egpu dock, seems more versatile for handhelds
First 20 seconds: “And all of them have their flaws, until possibly, now”. Proceeds to pan around a mini PC starving half of the GPUs fans because of absurdly dumb positioning. HOW COULD THEY OVERLOOK THIS
Good, honest review of the products. Thanks!
need this for laptops more than mini pcs
if only they had a psu connection,id love to see beelink make the same dock with a psu connection would be really good
Hello Mr Iceberg, I have some feedback for the video's thumbnail:
1. I don't think that the purple background suits the "device preview"
2. It doesn't have any eye-catching things like gen alpha slan. /j
I LOVED the humour in this video though Mr Iceberg :)
wow finally a solution that doesnt sound and look like a rip off / scam
wow beelink has an external PCI-E 4 outside the case. 8 line of PCI-E 4 is fine. I not intrerested in the dock as I could build better DIY style for a lot less, but having an exturnal x8 PCI-E 4 is a winner for the mini boxes as point of these boxes is mobility and then at home I could lug up a dGPU and game.
The choppyness you are getting at 8:44 are from the graphics card. Starfield hates AMD cards
at this point just build ITX, it's much better
lesgoo early to a iceberg tech vid
keep up the solid vids dude
Would you try installing a high speed, like 6400MT/s, Kingston HyperX Impact kit to see whether it'd work or how it'd affect the 1% lows on the Meteor Lake?
wouldnt oculink 8i be better in every way?
Bro, what is the point of this thing? If you're just going to add on all the stuff why not just buy an actual PC? Who is this targeted at? Whats the purpose?
For people that always travel but not interested in laptops. This mini pc + small-slim 14" monitor + slim keyboard & mouse, can fit nicely in ur backpack. They can bring this mini pc to the office for work and attach it to the beelink with gpu at home for gaming. A niche product though
12:11 CS2 performance is getting worse and worse by the day, what a wonderful game.
So. They remade the Minisforum Elitemini B550 in worse, less upgradable and more expensive? Cool!
No, this is better than that piece of garbage.
As much as I know my current set up is a better fit for me, and this is not particularly great value as a desktop, I still want one...
External cooling, external GPU, external power supply. What else can we put outside the case? External VRM?
This is a problem looking for a solution, while alternatives have been out there for over a decade
Humm, i wanted to ask you about the rtx 2080 ti 22GB version. Is it good, or should I just buy the rtx 3080 12gb ?
One use case if beelink keeps making these with each new gen of chip: review testbed to max out gpu to test real cpu limits in gaming.
I want a mini ryzen with a 780m apu with pcie 4.0 x8 and a dock like this one.
Reason, as to why removable:
I want to turn the mini pc into a handheld, ala rog ally, but also be able to use it as a full desktop pc, by just docking it.
I don't have that kind of money, but that is my dream project.
wonder how this compares to the B550 mini pc from minisforum?
I'd be less skeptical if there was a real, practical reason for slapping an eGPU on a stationary device.
one day very soon, gpu's will have a built in pc
Totally unrelated but it seems to me you are the right techie to ask... Whats the strongest GPU would you pair with 4770k ? I would like to play Resident evil 4 remake and my 780ti dont cut the mustard anymore
Radeon driver overhead would be great for that quadcore, get a 5700xt or equivalent, wont need more than that
Thank you
@@chico_fiesta no problem bro, buy used to save money for a better cooler if you wanna oc a little bit with the i7, and make sure you have dual channel ram and an ssd if you don't already
@@PelonixYT i have corsair dd3 limited oc edition 16 gb dual channel RAM. Decent thermaltake (frio i think)air cooler but not so sure it could handle the OC. Is rx 6600 near the 5700xt performance cause i can get that new cheap in Croatia?
@@chico_fiesta for the most part it is, and new features with less power draw
There's nothing more glorious than a Dawid glory hole.
Can you change the power supply?
Is that a jayz2cents logo down in the right hand corner of the screen LMAO?
I thought years ago with the obsession with maximum glass, such as computer cases with not just one but two glass panels, that very shortly this obsession would look as outdated as bell bottomed pants became in the 1970s. Why is most of the desktop computer case there, especially if the cases aren't really doing that great a job funneling air from inside / outside to cool? This is just the continuing process of the rationalization of computer cases? Less is more.
Make CPUs slot in like GPU too so much easier
I don't get why people are buying mini PC's and then putting a dedicated gpu with them in a dock. At that point it uses as much space on your desk as a desktop.
We need two steps forward before this is an enticing concept
No power passthrough is a dealbreaker tbh
No, you were right, we own small children.
i hate this intro start with passion looks like AI slop
Honestly, Ai generated stuff is a immediate red flag for content farms or low effort content for me. Despite the quality of the video, I hate the intro with a passion as well and nearly made me click away
"average cs2 enjoyer" vs "average benchmarking fan"
I would be so worried about breaking this, you don’t really want to plug and unplug pcie over and over. Just bump it the wrong way and you could bork it probably.
If you use a 4K monitor, all the cpu limitations go away.
It's a shame, no AMD Strix point, a missed opportunity.
So... My Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX is out of the question for this thing then
Algorithm Appeasing Alliteration!
I still think the most possible solutions for eGPU is for Laptop but with raw PCIe X16 Lanes slot. Not USB-C or USB4 connection.
The best candidate for this, is Framework Laptop. They already have patented design for swappable Laptop GPU, so why not include an empty PCIe X16 slot instead?
So user can use full sized GPU whenever possible. Of course user have to provide its own Power Supply.
Literally zero laptop/mobile CPUs have 16 available PCIe lanes.
They're a *all* x8 with 8 dedicated for the interface between CPU and iGPU; Intel and AMD.
Even AMD's (desktop) APUs 3000, 4000, and 5000 series APUs are 8x, 3.0.
(8000 are x16 but are still 4.0 vs 5.0 of 7/9000 series CPUs.)
@@tim3172 All AMD Ryzen HX Laptop CPUs are beyond 16 Lanes, so it can be divided for SSD and GPU
48 seconds ago is... 😳😳
I just want an X8 PCIe adapter for the framework 16
Also yeah. I personally don't see the point of docked Mini PC's
e-GPU's are ideal on Laptops, not really this.
Build a full PC will be cheaper anyways.
Mini PC + dock is almost 1k€ btw
If it came with CPUs supporting full x16 and the dock was somehow horizontal it could make sense as a console replacement
Who is this actually for though? In almost every instance, just build a PC or buy a prebuilt. Or build a cheap PC and buy a Steam Deck. Or just use a Steam Deck.
i mean at this point why not just build a small PC like those 5-6L ones everybody is so caught up about? or hell even just a capable laptop, makes little to no sense after these big docks
whatever new minipc video just drop honey get the popcorn
'Dawid' is famoes, like 'Iceberg tech' the view who not just post mainstream crap !
Rename the video to "The OBVIOUS Ultimate EGPU Solution | Beelink EX Dock"
Can I plug 5090 in this thing?
The 5090 doesn't exist yet, so no.
this is a really well built mini pc, too bad it has intel inside.
minisforum did it first minus the integral psu
the whole egpu thing is valid for laptops not mini pc's...
mini computer very cutes
Hello, can I work for you
wait what's the point of a desktop pc with an e-gpu
If you travel you can take your minipc with you and leave the GPU at home.
@@notreal5311if your traveling a laptop will be 1000x better. If you take mini pc you need to bring monitor with a bunch of cables and mouse and keyboard. Also you can’t even use it on a plane. Literally useless
@user-pb2zf8xx3u depends what you want out of your system. Laptops are $$$ and fry your balls, have gimped mobile GPUs, etc. I personally wouldn't buy one but having done SFF gaming PCs in the past I can see how it might appeal to some.
@@notreal5311 I think the additional costs of an e-gpu would make the mini pc the less practical option
@@buff9267 Somebody's never worked for an SMB or enterprise that considers such a device a business expense.
Knice stough🎉
Why not just habe a normal atx?
I hate SD card slots.
yeah
it was kinda obvious
"Starfield is a great experience" :D :D :D Starfield wouldn't even be a great experience at 1000fps, but nice try ;)
Someones late to the party 👀👀
Before I found the fix for the CPU throttling, this was going to be a very different review. Sometimes it's good to take your time!
@@IcebergTech hei, you'd have uploaded this a month from now n I would still have watched it,I love ur content
thats so stupid. why isnt the PC on the ither side of the GPU, so that it can breath freely?
My guess is marketing had something to do with it. If they put the pc on the other side, pictures of it assembled would either only be showing the gpu only or the bottom of the Mini PC and you wouldn't be able to see their logo.
Edit:typo
@@slimjim2321 I mean the minisforum B550 did it correctly years ago
The GPU has more than enough "breathing" space.
You can look at the clock speeds of people who put vertical mount GPUs right against glass.
Spoiler: it's perfectly fine.
This solution is not portable....
fire
Dawid loves his gloryholes😂!
After all those years of overpriced dGPU docks and failures. an actual one that works? And guides you to properitary hardware thats good?
Just SAD it is working an a CRAP Intel CPU ! They should do much better, with an AMD CPU !
:)
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I'm so early
First?
yes
Randomgaminghd did it first
damn iSperg your hands shake almost as much as mine
First?