At least Southwick is coming back this year. I'm sick of the focus on SX here. The Carmichael and James Stewart era was the last time outdoors felt as important to people as SX.
the simple truth is the gps are less exhausting on the riders, they get a lot more time off and supercross pays a lot more than motocross. By the time the riders get to outdoors theyre probably tired of it
I’m glad The Wick is back also 🤘 I’m from Massachusetts and I’m more excited bout the Nationals than SX , I loose more interest in SX every year as I get older but outdoors to me is what it’s all about 👍 NESC 🤘
@@GYPSYTALES I have to say your content is awesome! I grew up riding but got out of it due to a bad crash/injury. 12 years later, I have a new bike on order and more excited than ever to ride and about the sport in general. Thanks for always keeping it real and interesting as hell!!
@@fizzlefox1829 that’s not Europe is it lol it’s Asia, super cross Man made shit track, what happened when he went to a real track 😂 in the back of an ambulance
Man, Ryan Hughes is spot on on everything he says, he been there, he's done it, people need to listen to this guy, he can back up everything that comes out of his mouth.
The throttle control and riding style for the GP riders is so true. Ricky & James always had that smooth throttle control you can hear it back in the mid 00’s battles compared to now
I'm in my 80's now but I still remember the surprise in Pierre Karsmaker's voice as he was walking out of the St Charles, Missouri 125 GP after Edison Dye cancelled the race due to rain and a poor spectator turn-out.
Motocross should be wide open. Technical for me is more the trails enduro side. Fitting an indoor track into a stadium and trying to ride factory 450’s is ridiculous now.
@@nathancrittenden8525 yes I know the history. But motocross isn’t totally wide open. The skill level of the riders now is insane from as back as you remember the bikes are faster more suitable agile, the riders training is just not human. To Tom and dick who ride once a week motocross is definitely technical. But the pro’s are pro’s for a reason they make it look easy to go fast it’s what they train for. For me the US outdoor tracks are the fast but the uk and Europe ones are fast but definitely more technical with the rough and rutted tracks
@@deanoramouski5235 You’re clueless! Ya musta never seen Wardy jumping on a turn with his leg out (extended). That is fucking technical, pal. You want wide open? Go watch flat-track races…
First of all most the track on the calendar are the same tracks from the 90s and 2000s. Red Bud, Buds Creek, Washougal, High Point, Hangtown, Glen Helen needs to come back tho. But they are any different than back then, maybe the way the till the track, I don't know that information. Ryno wasn't correct about when you don't till it and just throw water on it, it becomes rock hard like clay usually depending on the dirt, but if you till it deep then it will get really rough, especially when the pros race it after that. Just from how hard they are on the gas and brakes cause bigger and rougher braking bumps and acceleration rollers as well. I'd they don't till the clay formed dirt turns into concrete and you can't break into that shit with nobbies and you will see the rubber skid marks in the track, at that point you might as well put on some dirt track tires or some slicks 🤣. Of they till the outdoors as deep as they can me there is prolly a liquid they can add to the water to keep it where the dirt doesn't clump up together so much and it could make for some really badass racing. I don't know what chems would help that but there always a way do manipulate the ground and dirt. I just thought that was a little far fetched for Hughes to say that much, I mean steel city would be cool to bring back. I think Hangtown or highpoint is where he lost his chain and had to push his bike up the last hill and I think he lost the championship that year. He almost won it if I remember correctly. That was the 90s big time. Crazy how fast time flys and how old I am.
Props to you Jase for putting his podcast out there, you risk your popularity but people need to hear the subject matter in this one. Well done, keep it up.
What he said about rain is very true. I am from Germany and I marshal at our local track. The last 5 years, we had downpoor rain, all weekend. And the dirt there is the worst you have ever seen, it's heavy it's sticky it's slippery. We have the Sidecar Cross world championship. The only time I saw a red flag was because they couldn't get around the track anymore, as two of the sidecars were stuck in a corner. Because their rear wheels were so packed with dirt, they didn't spin anymore.... they have 700cc twostroke engines! We had to call a literal caterpillar to get them out. But on the same day, the local regional cup, which is so small, they don't even have bike classes, so 125 kids race 450s in there. All of them are pure amateurs, none of the dudes could even qualify for a German championship race, they still raced and the race didn't get aborted. Though half of them didn't make it to the finish line. And btw even the 65s are on track in those conditions.
Dam right am from UK it is the same there iv rode in snow rain mud baths 😂 only amature but we raced in all weather's and never been cancled only time it got red flagged was when some one really hurt themselves and we had to get them air lifted out.
I totally understand what you're talking about. I miss your writing days from Houston Texas and the Astrodome and I remember you very well you are one of my favorite riders Ryan H. Love hearing your talk👍
Determination and sheer will. 1995 I watched this guy in the last moto of the year after a full 30 minutes plus two on an always rough steel city break his chain and push the bike around the rest of the off camber turn and up the steep off camber hill to the finish line and collapse. I think he still took 3rd in the moto.
I remember going to watch races and dudes racing both classes al 4 races and then final open race that was almost 4 hours of racing in one day for the same rider.
I'm a Euro who loves all racing anywhere in the world. I loved Ryno as a 125 rider and I love his honesty and straight talking throughout this whole podcast.
Spent alot of time at most of the MXGP tracks .(Working in the pits not as a rider) and I so agree. Seen it first hand. America needs to stop grooming the tracks after every moto. There tracks are like a golf course with jumps, any good guy can be fast. Bring back big ruts an braking bumps. That's why we DON'T dominant MXON how we used to !!
Yes the outdoors are different today some where real rough in the 90s one stop in mind was Ohio we did at Kenworth motocross park in Troy OH one of my last races.
I remember looking over the hay on the Unidilla track. Watching Magoo fly by. Seeing European moto-crossers. Kees Van der Den. Thinking about how far they had to travel. Great interview.
I remember MXOn 2018 American riders saying something about the changes on track....why its hard for them to accept their asses spank by GP riders.....thanks Ryan for making this clear..great to watch and heard from you guys
I agree with Ryno. In 1982 Brad Lackey became the only American 500 world champion after spending his entire career chasing that title! There wont be another...
Just doing the rounds on the youtube as u do and seeing a typical California motocross video and this what ryan is saying is so on point just springs to mind stright away. Cheers Ryan and gypsy tales 👍🏻👍🏻
Ryan Hughes - you need to go up to the PNW in January when Carson Brown is training at riverdale. My 11yo daughter raced at near 0 degrees, raining, snowing - we woke up and the puddles were iced over the morning of our last race there.
Agree with 99.5% of RH here! best thing he said was they ruined Unadilla, been saying that for years as well. But one thing, remind me what was Redbud 2018 USA MXDN like. was it a muddier? What was that excuse!
I can rail thunder valley here in Co but I struggle with some of the smaller more technical tracks. I get what he's saying. Fast is fast & practicing to be fast everywhere is so much fun to me!
I remember watching races at unidilla back in the day, it was so cool watching talent come to life on that rough a** track, Some guys could make it look smooth as glass
@@Mr1237 the reality is that it’s American riders against the rest of the world. If USA doesn’t win MXdN the everyone celebrates. The fact that one country is basically put up against everyone else says everything I need hear.
@@pabloyescobar334except America has a population the size of the entirety of western Europe going against countries like Belgium that has a population the size of one town in America so you have a much bigger pool to take from. Europe Vs America would be much more fair
I agree for 100% with Ryan. The comparisons are stupid and people need to stop comparing. His thoughts on this are very interesting to hear. Cheers mate
Their bikes suspension looks like it's much different than US mx bikes. You can see it just watching on tv. The way they have it setup for those rough tracks.
All the reasons he listed are exactly why MX riders from New England or other cold states in the US are able to go so far in the sport even though they rode half the year. We ride in shitty gravel & sand pits while it’s still snowing out, most of the time muddy, and there’s always sketchy rocks everywhere. Then you look at tracks like Southwick that beat the living shit out of you. We just have a lot of grit living up here and training the way we do, very similar to Europe.
The Mxgp is more grueling all outdoors for 17 rounds even for their 250 class. Plus the many different countries, tracks, and conditions. It would be a great story seeing one of our American Amateurs head to Europe and take their American Talent and turn it into European. We might have the send it attitude while Europeans just want to ride wherever they are at. Thomas Covington is the last American who ever won a GP though it was the 250 class it goes to show how tough it is out there.
I'll never say never, but Ryno has a point about how much rougher GPs are vs. how "smooth" US tracks are. I remember racing Unadilla the first year they let amateurs run it the day before the pros. wow. what a crazy rough track. amazing. ofc, that was also the beginning of the end for Unadilla. 😄
Just listening to this guy has made me hit the subscribe button.. His statement about not giving a shit about anything else, just riding dirt bikes.. New generation are more fussed about how trick their kit looks.. Brilliant interview! 👌🤜🤛
Totally agree, the uk tracks these days are pampered so much that you can’t use interesting lines anymore. it’s all long deep ruts that you can’t steer out of because of over rotavated soil
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 lol supercross? I’m talking about motocross mate. There’s no denying supercross is the priority in the USA right now which is what I thinks affecting their mx results too they dedicate so much time to sx that come motocross season and des nations they’re just way behind
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 if you look at the results of the world junior mx titles, all the kids are Europeans and Australians, there’s hardly any up and coming USA motocross riders right now it’s actually disturbing
I raced Unadilla a few times from 1994 to 2003 and that track got so ruff by second moto that the track was basically a choppy whoop section. Place was no joke and had a reputation for being rough as hell. Only the strong survived the second moto in 85cc and super mini class. Stick to the extremities of the track and hold it wide open and burn that clutch around the turns
If you recall there was an attempt at letting the tracks get a little rougher a few years ago. That was the year that Eli won a moto by over a minute. He also didn't make it through 6 motos that year. But in the 5 motos he won that year, and the one he crashed in while leading, he was without a doubt the fastest man to ever get on a dirt bike. It was incredibly awesome to watch but there was no way it was going to last.
Have to agree 100% with Ryno on that. There will never be another American world champion in the big class. Brad Lackey spent an entire career over in Europe to make it happen...
My nephew Carson Wood went to Finland to race for team USA at the Junior Motocross World Championship. All the kids on the team said the track was the roughest track they ever rode.
I've always loved Rynos attitude and approach, seems like such a straight talking, takes no bull shit kind of guy I remember my first Motocross video I bought back in 99 GP review. His corner speed at Talavera Spain was ridiculous his CR 250 was fucking pinned. I miss the old 2 Stroke style racers.
@@Savciuc_Serghei in dave Thorpe and Eric goboers and so ons day they had 3 45 min motos on works 500 2 strokes on tracks rougher than you could ever believe with suspension no where near where its at now
vary true.... 02-05 (give and take some years) lake elsinore pro track was fucking insane pro tracks nowadays wouldn't come close to how gnarly and crazy that track was.
Makes absolute sense. American riders have become prima donnas of sorts. When I campaigned 250's In the mid 80's I would train during sleeting/drizzling days on, you guessed it, an empty track. Today I ride/race off-road and ride through the winter (southwest) in sub 40 degree days. Everyone else is on their sofa. Ryan's got a point.
People keeeeeeep forgetting that Rv literally did this shit, he proved that the Europeans ride moto so much more than us and they ride the same tracks every year
I’ve ridden lommel a few times and that track is brutal! It gets graded once a week! And ridden all week! Every track we rode in holland/belgium was the same you then realise why euro riders are better in tougher conditions as that’s what they always train in
Hey boss I love your podcast but I just came upon something if you want to check it out it's like a crazy on point with this segment of rhino talking about Unadilla raceway and 450 bikes being to big. I'm watching a two part interview with Bob Hannah and they both say the same exact shit about the 450's and Unadilla. If you do check it out is a two part interview with him. Unless you already seen it. They sat samething about both wood for word. Check it out if you haven't seen it.
Thats so true though, people here complain if track isnt watered, if its too rough they wont even ride, if the whoops are too big they go around them etc etc..
well just look at what happened to Vohland last year when he went over. Redbull KTM americas new hot boy goes over and gets fucking waxed by Liam Everts. Max didnt even make the top 10 in either moto at Matterly. Then went home with his tail between his legs and the americans kept it hush hush and everyones forgotten about it. DIDNT STAND A CHANCE.
Saw him ride at Matterley in person, dude looked poor. I thought to myself this kid on a the red bull ktm, has come over from American, been a big name in his amateur racing, his dad a ex pro. Gotta At least podium & he got done by guys who’ll probably never get a factory ride in their whole career. But give him his credit, his dad brought him over to Europe to learn & you can see it in his style, he has a lot more technique than a lot of riders around him
Could listen to this guy talk moto all day - reminds me of growing up racing with my dad. Always gave it to me raw and uncut
At least Southwick is coming back this year. I'm sick of the focus on SX here. The Carmichael and James Stewart era was the last time outdoors felt as important to people as SX.
the simple truth is the gps are less exhausting on the riders, they get a lot more time off and supercross pays a lot more than motocross. By the time the riders get to outdoors theyre probably tired of it
100%
I’m glad The Wick is back also 🤘 I’m from Massachusetts and I’m more excited bout the Nationals than SX , I loose more interest in SX every year as I get older but outdoors to me is what it’s all about 👍 NESC 🤘
@@ronaldtravis970 yuuup. Imo, outdoors requires more skill and obviously more conditioning.
I 💯 love outdoors more. I get pumped for races. SX is just a filler for me, and the SX only contract guys, for me I don’t even give a second glance.
Ryno 's genuine answers to your questions maskes this episode especially strong. Great work as always.
Everyone needs to listen to the whole podcast with Ryan he's the real deal very interesting guy. 👍
Thanks so much mate!
@@GYPSYTALES Thanks for what you do all us moto fan's appreciate it.
Appreciate you listening
@@GYPSYTALES I have to say your content is awesome! I grew up riding but got out of it due to a bad crash/injury. 12 years later, I have a new bike on order and more excited than ever to ride and about the sport in general. Thanks for always keeping it real and interesting as hell!!
Is that found on TH-cam or another format?
Remember when HERLINGS came over here for one National and went 1-1. Their tracks are so much harder - they travel to different countries.
Florida MXGP?...NOOOO....Tomac won the first round with good start......Herlings sucks ass, that puke is a complete scab
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 where were the yanks at the nations ? They couldn't even win on there home soil, they weren't even close to herlings.
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 no Ironman national, 3 digit number rocked up and smoked the lot crashed and still won on a track he’d never been too before
Remember when Villipoto won MXGP Thailand back in 2015. To say a top US rider couldn't go over there and win is dumb.
@@fizzlefox1829 that’s not Europe is it lol it’s Asia, super cross Man made shit track, what happened when he went to a real track 😂 in the back of an ambulance
Man, Ryan Hughes is spot on on everything he says, he been there, he's done it, people need to listen to this guy, he can back up everything that comes out of his mouth.
King of “back in my day”
He’s right though
Man this has to be my favorite podcast so far, Ryno has so much to say thats so interesting
The throttle control and riding style for the GP riders is so true. Ricky & James always had that smooth throttle control you can hear it back in the mid 00’s battles compared to now
Villopoto as well, he had amazing control of the bike, he was always a gear high than every other rider, keeping the revs low and the bike tamed
Ryan is the real deal. Do more interviews with him! We need more like this
Remember when Herlings visited the states… he was from another planet 🚀
8 hour car ride on Sunday, can’t wait to drive and listen to this entire podcast, this guys hits the mark in so many different areas
I'm in my 80's now but I still remember the surprise in Pierre Karsmaker's voice as he was walking out of the St Charles, Missouri 125 GP after Edison Dye cancelled
the race due to rain and a poor spectator turn-out.
Pierre was the first AMA champ , he is Dutch
He’s is so incredibly correct. Every outdoor is just wide open and not as technical. I used to love the 90’s/2000’s tracks. Tight at points
Motocross should be wide open. Technical for me is more the trails enduro side. Fitting an indoor track into a stadium and trying to ride factory 450’s is ridiculous now.
You don't know the history of the sport if u think motocross has to be wide open
@@nathancrittenden8525 yes I know the history. But motocross isn’t totally wide open. The skill level of the riders now is insane from as back as you remember the bikes are faster more suitable agile, the riders training is just not human. To Tom and dick who ride once a week motocross is definitely technical. But the pro’s are pro’s for a reason they make it look easy to go fast it’s what they train for. For me the US outdoor tracks are the fast but the uk and Europe ones are fast but definitely more technical with the rough and rutted tracks
@@deanoramouski5235 You’re clueless! Ya musta never seen Wardy jumping on a turn with his leg out (extended). That is fucking technical, pal. You want wide open? Go watch flat-track races…
First of all most the track on the calendar are the same tracks from the 90s and 2000s. Red Bud, Buds Creek, Washougal, High Point, Hangtown, Glen Helen needs to come back tho. But they are any different than back then, maybe the way the till the track, I don't know that information. Ryno wasn't correct about when you don't till it and just throw water on it, it becomes rock hard like clay usually depending on the dirt, but if you till it deep then it will get really rough, especially when the pros race it after that. Just from how hard they are on the gas and brakes cause bigger and rougher braking bumps and acceleration rollers as well. I'd they don't till the clay formed dirt turns into concrete and you can't break into that shit with nobbies and you will see the rubber skid marks in the track, at that point you might as well put on some dirt track tires or some slicks 🤣. Of they till the outdoors as deep as they can me there is prolly a liquid they can add to the water to keep it where the dirt doesn't clump up together so much and it could make for some really badass racing. I don't know what chems would help that but there always a way do manipulate the ground and dirt. I just thought that was a little far fetched for Hughes to say that much, I mean steel city would be cool to bring back. I think Hangtown or highpoint is where he lost his chain and had to push his bike up the last hill and I think he lost the championship that year. He almost won it if I remember correctly. That was the 90s big time. Crazy how fast time flys and how old I am.
Classic Rhyno, always loved his brutal honesty. Great guy, very dedicated.🙏🏻👍🏁
Was just watching some GP footage last night....the tracks are absolutely cratered. Can’t disagree one bit.
He is spot on greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
Say hi to herlings for me
Props to you Jase for putting his podcast out there, you risk your popularity but people need to hear the subject matter in this one.
Well done, keep it up.
Ryno is a legend! When he speaks, you listen.
The amount of respect i have for Ryano grows each time i hear him speak ...
What he said about rain is very true. I am from Germany and I marshal at our local track. The last 5 years, we had downpoor rain, all weekend. And the dirt there is the worst you have ever seen, it's heavy it's sticky it's slippery. We have the Sidecar Cross world championship. The only time I saw a red flag was because they couldn't get around the track anymore, as two of the sidecars were stuck in a corner. Because their rear wheels were so packed with dirt, they didn't spin anymore.... they have 700cc twostroke engines! We had to call a literal caterpillar to get them out.
But on the same day, the local regional cup, which is so small, they don't even have bike classes, so 125 kids race 450s in there. All of them are pure amateurs, none of the dudes could even qualify for a German championship race, they still raced and the race didn't get aborted.
Though half of them didn't make it to the finish line. And btw even the 65s are on track in those conditions.
Dam right am from UK it is the same there iv rode in snow rain mud baths 😂 only amature but we raced in all weather's and never been cancled only time it got red flagged was when some one really hurt themselves and we had to get them air lifted out.
I totally understand what you're talking about. I miss your writing days from Houston Texas and the Astrodome and I remember you very well you are one of my favorite riders Ryan H. Love hearing your talk👍
Ryno is the Man .. Nothing like old school.. Appreciate ya GYPSY..
Determination and sheer will. 1995 I watched this guy in the last moto of the year after a full 30 minutes plus two on an always rough steel city break his chain and push the bike around the rest of the off camber turn and up the steep off camber hill to the finish line and collapse. I think he still took 3rd in the moto.
I remember going to watch races and dudes racing both classes al 4 races and then final open race that was almost 4 hours of racing in one day for the same rider.
I wonder if he's in on the podcast
I'm a Euro who loves all racing anywhere in the world. I loved Ryno as a 125 rider and I love his honesty and straight talking throughout this whole podcast.
Really wish we could watch the video on the full podcasts instead of only in the clips
Spent alot of time at most of the MXGP tracks .(Working in the pits not as a rider) and I so agree. Seen it first hand. America needs to stop grooming the tracks after every moto. There tracks are like a golf course with jumps, any good guy can be fast. Bring back big ruts an braking bumps. That's why we DON'T dominant MXON how we used to !!
Love the way that was said. Love the content. First time watcher. Keep up the hard work
Yes the outdoors are different today some where real rough in the 90s one stop in mind was Ohio we did at Kenworth motocross park in Troy OH one of my last races.
Kenworthy's in Troy, Ohio was an outdoor SX track. Great promoter but that wasn't a true MX circuit like Washougal or Hangtown.
Americans vs Europeans on the GP circuit was something fans like me really miss. Carlsbad GP was dope.
I remember looking over the hay on the Unidilla track. Watching Magoo fly by. Seeing European moto-crossers. Kees Van der Den. Thinking about how far they had to travel. Great interview.
I legit paused my regular tv programs to watch the whole podcast. Raw/real🙌🏾
I’m a simple man. I see Gypsy Tales podcast and I click like. Always great content!
Spot On Ryan.
Agreed 👍
Great content, i was literally just looking at a pic of a unadilla race where they had left it grassy and wishing they would go back to those days
I remember MXOn 2018 American riders saying something about the changes on track....why its hard for them to accept their asses spank by GP riders.....thanks Ryan for making this clear..great to watch and heard from you guys
Ryno is truly the greatest I love listening to him he’s so wise and has made me view racing and riding differently, from a more logical perspective.
I agree with Ryno. In 1982 Brad Lackey became the only American 500 world champion after spending his entire career chasing that title! There wont be another...
Just doing the rounds on the youtube as u do and seeing a typical California motocross video and this what ryan is saying is so on point just springs to mind stright away. Cheers Ryan and gypsy tales 👍🏻👍🏻
Ryan Hughes - you need to go up to the PNW in January when Carson Brown is training at riverdale. My 11yo daughter raced at near 0 degrees, raining, snowing - we woke up and the puddles were iced over the morning of our last race there.
Agree with 99.5% of RH here! best thing he said was they ruined Unadilla, been saying that for years as well.
But one thing, remind me what was Redbud 2018 USA MXDN like. was it a muddier?
What was that excuse!
I can rail thunder valley here in Co but I struggle with some of the smaller more technical tracks. I get what he's saying. Fast is fast & practicing to be fast everywhere is so much fun to me!
I remember watching races at unidilla back in the day, it was so cool watching talent come to life on that rough a** track, Some guys could make it look smooth as glass
There will never be an American who wants earn less money to ride a more challenging series again. You are totally right.
Win all the money you want, it wont hide the reality
@@Mr1237 the reality is that it’s American riders against the rest of the world. If USA doesn’t win MXdN the everyone celebrates. The fact that one country is basically put up against everyone else says everything I need hear.
@@pabloyescobar334 because americans think they're the centre of the world and the best in everything but you're not so sit down
@@pabloyescobar334 except no one else see's it that way, you have an extremely skewed perception.
@@pabloyescobar334except America has a population the size of the entirety of western Europe going against countries like Belgium that has a population the size of one town in America so you have a much bigger pool to take from. Europe Vs America would be much more fair
You hit the nail right on the head Ryan!
Very interesting to listen to Rayan Hughes has to say! He is an icon and everything he says in this interview is complete right! Tanks Ryno!👍😊
Dope Podcast!
What bike do you ride. I agree. 450s for the weekend warrior it a bit of a handful
I got a KTM 350
I agree for 100% with Ryan. The comparisons are stupid and people need to stop comparing. His thoughts on this are very interesting to hear. Cheers mate
Their bikes suspension looks like it's much different than US mx bikes. You can see it just watching on tv. The way they have it setup for those rough tracks.
They actually are the GP has works bikes while the US has Factory Bikes.
Nice shout out for the Zimbabwean riders Ryno.
All the reasons he listed are exactly why MX riders from New England or other cold states in the US are able to go so far in the sport even though they rode half the year. We ride in shitty gravel & sand pits while it’s still snowing out, most of the time muddy, and there’s always sketchy rocks everywhere. Then you look at tracks like Southwick that beat the living shit out of you. We just have a lot of grit living up here and training the way we do, very similar to Europe.
The Mxgp is more grueling all outdoors for 17 rounds even for their 250 class. Plus the many different countries, tracks, and conditions. It would be a great story seeing one of our American Amateurs head to Europe and take their American Talent and turn it into European.
We might have the send it attitude while Europeans just want to ride wherever they are at.
Thomas Covington is the last American who ever won a GP though it was the 250 class it goes to show how tough it is out there.
I'll never say never, but Ryno has a point about how much rougher GPs are vs. how "smooth" US tracks are. I remember racing Unadilla the first year they let amateurs run it the day before the pros. wow. what a crazy rough track. amazing. ofc, that was also the beginning of the end for Unadilla. 😄
this is the same as having a pretty commercial gym vs a dungeon gym lol everyone is jacked at my local gym as were trying our hardest.
Pampered in every way including the track.
Not only a question of tracks design. Also how europeans have managed to catch up the us in terms of resources/sponsoring/scouting/training
I can listen to this all the time someone who tells it how it is
This applies to mountain bike World Cup DH racing as well.
Just listening to this guy has made me hit the subscribe button.. His statement about not giving a shit about anything else, just riding dirt bikes.. New generation are more fussed about how trick their kit looks.. Brilliant interview! 👌🤜🤛
Totally agree, the uk tracks these days are pampered so much that you can’t use interesting lines anymore. it’s all long deep ruts that you can’t steer out of because of over rotavated soil
I said this Years ago, was at a National and the track was prepped between every heat. I miss the days of Ward and Johnson, those guys were tough.
Hughes was always one of my favorites when I was a kid.
Ryan Hughes is absolutely 100% on the money.
I love and respect this man there’s none like him
He’s right, I think even Australia’s got the upper hand over the USA in motocross these days Australia’s producing so much motocross talent right now
Check Jett choking on his virgin ride.......crying like a little girl on the golf cart as they took him off the track....
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 lol supercross? I’m talking about motocross mate. There’s no denying supercross is the priority in the USA right now which is what I thinks affecting their mx results too they dedicate so much time to sx that come motocross season and des nations they’re just way behind
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 if you look at the results of the world junior mx titles, all the kids are Europeans and Australians, there’s hardly any up and coming USA motocross riders right now it’s actually disturbing
@@JamesyMusial14 there never has been any Americans in the world junior mx titles they all stay in America and race Lorettas etc
Fmx as well
Where the best place to listen to the podcast? Preferably not Spotify.
Dude between Ryno and Sleeter I could listen to them every evening 😎
I raced Unadilla a few times from 1994 to 2003 and that track got so ruff by second moto that the track was basically a choppy whoop section. Place was no joke and had a reputation for being rough as hell. Only the strong survived the second moto in 85cc and super mini class. Stick to the extremities of the track and hold it wide open and burn that clutch around the turns
If you recall there was an attempt at letting the tracks get a little rougher a few years ago. That was the year that Eli won a moto by over a minute.
He also didn't make it through 6 motos that year. But in the 5 motos he won that year, and the one he crashed in while leading, he was without a doubt
the fastest man to ever get on a dirt bike. It was incredibly awesome to watch but there was no way it was going to last.
I’m excited to listen to this ryan has always interested me with his philosophies
Amen Ryan, so true.
Have to agree 100% with Ryno on that. There will never be another American world champion in the big class. Brad Lackey spent an entire career over in Europe to make it happen...
Man i have a picture with kroc when i was 8 and roczen was like 14 on a local race. He is so Amerika now its so weird
Jason Anderson and Osbourne, Cooper, MXON give it all. Great Guys.!! Hope they will come back to europe.
When Ryno speaks anything about motocross, you listen
This guy reminds me of my Geedo telling me ‘when I was a kid I delivered papers from here to the international airport at -45 degrees and no gloves ‘
Please start posting the whole podcasts on TH-cam. Something definetely about watching makes it easier to really get. Keep it up mate 👍
Yea...a legend....pfffffft, good luck with your Pantene Sponsorship Ryno
My nephew Carson Wood went to Finland to race for team USA at the Junior Motocross World Championship. All the kids on the team said the track was the roughest track they ever rode.
I've always loved Rynos attitude and approach, seems like such a straight talking, takes no bull shit kind of guy I remember my first Motocross video I bought back in 99 GP review. His corner speed at Talavera Spain was ridiculous his CR 250 was fucking pinned. I miss the old 2 Stroke style racers.
Ahhh the classic "back in my day it wS so much harder"
Classic
Usually a true statement. Times have gotten so easy that people CREATE their own problems.
Roger DeCoster can prove it. 45 min+2 laps moto. In 1 hour!!! another start and again 45 min+2 laps. Who can stand it now?
@@Savciuc_Serghei in dave Thorpe and Eric goboers and so ons day they had 3 45 min motos on works 500 2 strokes on tracks rougher than you could ever believe with suspension no where near where its at now
@@nathancrittenden8525 Year. Agree. And track like Namur
Its true though. Not even a debate
Hey you remover when cooper webb spanked hearlings at the mxgp in charlotte
Post the full podcast on TH-cam
vary true.... 02-05 (give and take some years) lake elsinore pro track was fucking insane pro tracks nowadays wouldn't come close to how gnarly and crazy that track was.
Makes absolute sense. American riders have become prima donnas of sorts. When I campaigned 250's In the mid 80's I would train during sleeting/drizzling days on, you guessed it, an empty track. Today I ride/race off-road and ride through the winter (southwest) in sub 40 degree days. Everyone else is on their sofa. Ryan's got a point.
That is why the pros need to practice on the east coast. Where are the tough tracks at?
People keeeeeeep forgetting that Rv literally did this shit, he proved that the Europeans ride moto so much more than us and they ride the same tracks every year
I’ve ridden lommel a few times and that track is brutal! It gets graded once a week! And ridden all week!
Every track we rode in holland/belgium was the same you then realise why euro riders are better in tougher conditions as that’s what they always train in
Hey boss I love your podcast but I just came upon something if you want to check it out it's like a crazy on point with this segment of rhino talking about Unadilla raceway and 450 bikes being to big. I'm watching a two part interview with Bob Hannah and they both say the same exact shit about the 450's and Unadilla. If you do check it out is a two part interview with him. Unless you already seen it. They sat samething about both wood for word. Check it out if you haven't seen it.
Another addition of Ryan knows everything
I grew up in the 70's , 80's and the Gp was the pinnacle. Now kids are only focused on racing in America.
These tracks are like paved highways
It's true.. we have guys bitching about wood Chips and nobody discing the track between practice and mains.
Thats so true though, people here complain if track isnt watered, if its too rough they wont even ride, if the whoops are too big they go around them etc etc..
Spot on !! Tho wrong about Euros, they are way quicker than the US riders !
well just look at what happened to Vohland last year when he went over. Redbull KTM americas new hot boy goes over and gets fucking waxed by Liam Everts. Max didnt even make the top 10 in either moto at Matterly. Then went home with his tail between his legs and the americans kept it hush hush and everyones forgotten about it. DIDNT STAND A CHANCE.
Didn't even know that 😂
Haha Jett Reynolds fuck them up
Saw him ride at Matterley in person, dude looked poor. I thought to myself this kid on a the red bull ktm, has come over from American, been a big name in his amateur racing, his dad a ex pro. Gotta At least podium & he got done by guys who’ll probably never get a factory ride in their whole career.
But give him his credit, his dad brought him over to Europe to learn & you can see it in his style, he has a lot more technique than a lot of riders around him
@@phoebe670 Reynolds ain't shit
@@gildo101rossi his form and technique is A1 for sure
The US rider should come to Europe and practice at Lommel and some other difficult tracks! Nice to see them over there!👍
Plus our amateur scene needs work. 6 min sprints to 30 plus twos
You need to come to Michigan my friend
Ryan is the man!! He tell it like is is!! "Respect" "Unadilla Sucks Now"
“ zero Degrees outside with 2 ft of water in the corners “ something sounds like bs lol 😂