I have a 3 miles to the 1 inch Road Atlas of Great Britain Fourth Edition 1957 in a roughly A5 hard back format, pre motorways and pre Beeching cuts. Travelling around now I see remnants of old railways and roads and can instantly see where they went. Fascinating for me, a 50's/60's train enthusiast.
It might be useful to look past Britain as well. In1807 Franz Josef Ritter von Gerstner was tasked to develop a route to link the Moldau River (and thus the Elbe River) over to the Danube River by canal. After extensive research he proposed using a 130 km (80 mi) railway instead. Despite being a quite montanus stretch it did not intend to use inclined plains as it was standard in England at the time (think developments as late as the 1831 Cromford and High Peak Railway). The route opened in 1827 covering >1600 ft in height without any inclined plane or stationary engine. So yes, Teford had approach, but he was neither alone nor the first well reputed engineer to do so. P.S.: great video.
Hi Paul, Very interesting video. What a wonderful time it must have been to be an engineer, draughtsman or surveyor. As an aside Thomas Telford got his break in Portsmouth in 1784 where he was chosen by architect Samuel Wyatt to oversee the construction of buildings in the dockyard. A blue plaque unveiled in 2007 commemorates his involvement there. The story behind the William Smith geological map fascinates me, which links in canals, railways, the debtors prison and the building of the Houses of Parliament. Nice finish to the video👌👌. Always good to see the origins behind TH-cam creators. Mine would be Fort Purbrook which I explored when it was abandoned with my Dad!! All the best!!
Thanks David. I think you are right. I can't imagine a more peaceful existance than an early canal or railway surveyor. Of course there are some rose tinted glasses there but one can imagine.
Thomas Telford designed the road through the village I live in. He had the top of the hill at one end of the village removed to make a less steep climb for the horses.
He built the A5 road from the gates of Buckingham Palace to the Irish Mail Jetty in Holyhead and despite going through the mountains of Snowdonia in Wales he kept the incline below the max permissible for horse drawn carriages (Stagecoaches). The guy was an absolute genius. His life story is fascinating.
Yeh: Thomastown. But its not in Shropshire, it's in the South Wales Valleys. Or maybe Trethomas (which is Welsh for Thomas town) also in the south wales valleys.
Telford Town was first designated on 16 January 1963. Originally called “Dawley New Town” but renamed probably to cover its miserable design (or lack of). The great man would be disappointed.
There was a reprint published about thirty years ago. It's okay but the publisher squeezed the maps down to fit the small book size. Try and see the maps before you buy I think you will be disappointed if you get the squashed version.
@@tremensdelirious They're putting the tracks in a super expensive set of tunnels because a few NIMBY's didn't want to see choo choos going through some fields a few miles from their back garden.
@@tremensdelirious Ah so you're one of the NIMBY's stopping the nation from progressing. Thanks. You got them in a tunnel to avoid having to see them, the north gets nothing.
As a Worcestershire boy I can't let this pass without mentioning Bewdley's bridge over the River Severn, which of course was built by Thomas Telford. The area was a hotbed of transport infrastructure in it's day. The Severn Trows travelled between Bewdley and Bristol with china from Stoke on Trent, unfortunately the journey between Stoke and Bewdley was by mule and this was too slow and resulted in breakages. Along came James Brindley to build a canal, which terminated at the hamlet of Lower Mitton, around which grew the new town of Stourport-on-Severn, then along came the railway which took away the river and canal traffic. The river, canal and railway fell to the rise of the internal combustion engine and road transport. So, if you want to see a potted history of transport in the UK, look no further than Bewdley and Stourport-on-Severn!
Went past that spot by the bridges on the Kennett & Avon a couple of years ago, there's something magical about it. The history of the railways from there up to Marlborough would make an interesting video, took me a little while to get my head round. One of many routes where it's a shame they weren't preserved for active travel. Imagine being able to walk or cycle across the canal and on up to Marlborough.
The bridge you were standing on is a route from Littlecote House to Wolf Hall. Henry XII used to stay at Littlecote and the Seymore family owned the hall. That stretch of the canal was my old trip boat patch.
Another fascinating Sunday with Paul and Rebecca (I saw her in the background)! Your personal library is enviable. Those maps are true works of art. Thank you.
This video also reminded me of Gareth Dennis' #Railnatter from the Railway Museum's archives, with one of their archivists. Maybe you could do a deep dive with either Gareth or the NRM's archivist, or both.
This was soooo interesting and well presented! (It also managed to mention two of my favourite places - Caen Hill and Dunham Massey - into one video.) It feels like this is just the start of the story - please do more deep dives like this!
This video ties into some disused railway questions on my mind. In Medbourne why was a new line built next to a dusused railway (both now abandoned), Head south and why was Rockingham station next to Caldecot. Also who came up with very long name for thr branch line going under the Harringworth viaduct at Seaton? Anyone would think there was no plan or map at the time.
Such an interesting and well produced upload! Thanks in particular for not using that horrible vertical strip format that has ruined TH-cam. Had this been in vertical I would have downvoted, requested no more feeds from the channel and skipped without watching?
Hi Paul. I've spent far more hours of my life than I should have pouring over my copy of Jowett's. I share your love of maps, so this video was right up my street.
Given the rapid pace of canal and the railway development, I wonder just how many fraudulent schemes sprung up, promising all manner of transport goldmines, but never delivering anything, or just selling fake shares in real companies... not to be confused with genuine efforts that went bankrupt... there seem to be a lot of them!
It's a little known fact that the song "She'll be coming round the mountain" is about fraudulent railroad (I am in the US) schemes. Con men would get a town to invest in a railroad that would supposedly serve them and told the poor investors that it would be "coming round the mountain" any time now.
Absolutely! George Hudson, "The Railway King" was a railway promoter and financier who used business sharp-practice and downright criminality to get his way. He did get a lot of railways built, though! If you're not familiar with him, there's a long Wikipedia article on him.
I love the Railway Clearing House diagrams, such works of art. And essential for shared lines. Portsmouth area one is very interesting as we have LSWR metals, LBSCR metals and joint metals all in the same city.
Love both Harry Beck’s brilliant map and those railway clearing house maps of each station and junction - works of art as you say. Could spend a long time just looking at maps!
there were early railways here in Lothian - such as the Edinburgh/Dalkeith Innocent railway, that were horse-drawn - they even used iron rails - as Telford came from not far south of here, it seems unlikey he wasn't inspired by those.
Ignore the doubters and the naysayers Paul, you can walk around wnenever wherever you want and even waffle to your heart's content. I will be here watching, listening and learning and most of all enjoying what you do!
Bicycling from Montréal Caada down to Delaware and then Washington DC a few times forced me to learn a lot about the various areas to find the appropriate routes. And there are interesting similarities with your video. The Delaware and Hudson was a canal company and they had built a canal linking the Delaware river to the Hudson river for carrying coal to cities and goods from cities. In areas where navigation was not possible, hirse drawn "railway" were used nd that really slowed navigation down to bridge that gap. Once you could put a steam powered engine on tracks, all bets were off. Delaware and Hudson started to build railways. Cornelius Vanderbuilt who ran ships decided to start buying into railways and couldl create the New York Central. Baltimore and Ohio railway competed against the Cheseapeake and Ohio canal to get goods/coal to Washington (in fact at Washington, the 2 parralel each other, but the railway is now the Capital Crescent bike path). The prize was to connect to Chicago. New York Central built along the Hudson river to Albany and gong went from Albany was more or less flat. Pennsyvania Railroad wasn't so lucky and had big mountains to cross west of Philadelphia. So the challenges were more in surveying for routes as opposed to mapping them.
Ah! I beg to differ with your confession with regard to maps. I also love maps to an insane degree but do not class myself as an idiot, but more an over-enthusiast. There is nothing wrong with being, not only engaged, but also proficient with your skill!
There are lots of similar posts along the Kennet and Avon canal. They are from when the railway owned the canal and they were used as distance markers. Some are quite short and still have little bits of wooden plank fixed on them to make a notice, but the legend has long since vanished
@@amandachapman4708 I've actually seen posts made of bridge rail that look like the original longitudinal sleeper is still attached albeit it very heavily rotted Fun fact. I live in clevedon and our famous pier is made out of Barlow rail - also used in the broad gauge in the south Wales railway
The first fare paying passenger service operated on the Oystermouth Railway back in 1807. But this was no means the only railway then in existence and predates Mr James by 15 years.
I Love the great central London extension. Paul could you please work out what bits of rebuilding old railway etc have been stopped or abandoned by Labour? The news channels keep saying this but no detail outside of HS2? Please help I need to know.
Labour have been in government 2 weeks. They have abandoned 2 road projects. The Tories wanted to do nothing but build roads and roads and roads. They came up with a "rebuilding railways" brand and yet gave it a budget of 500 million (cost of building a roundabout in Hull). Labour seem to be committed to public transport sp let watch this space.
E roads. The old drovers roads, toll free for drovers to move livestock. Did they follow ancient routes? Could be a tricky one as local councils were reluctant to publish or even give access to them because they are responsible for the upkeep
Eventual rail building was capitalism and commercialism gone riot. I think if it had been planned for people rather than profit, it would’ve taken so long and still not provided the network we have even now.
Hi everybody! What an amazing unroll of Peutinger.s Tabula, but this early map didn’t use any technique of modern mapmaking, that’s why it is so strange!
Paul, sorry, what was the name of the book of railway Maps that you mentioned in the green hardback cover and recommended to us please? Also could you please give us the ISBN number as well because that would make it easier to find?
My fascination is how railways changed over time - how they got from ten stations to twenty and then back to four or disappeared completely; if that makes sense. I'm colourblind, so the colours hold no interest for me, but maps are amazing, showing me places that as a child I could only imagine. In my late fifties now and there are still many places that I have not seen or visited, but maps still hold my fascination. The underdog railways are far more impressive than the big companies, because they had a goal in mind. Customer service over profit, in my opinion, is how railways should be run. Unfortunately, they aren't and customer numbers have suffered because of it. But another fascination is watching how new tracks are laid. I'm sure viewers would love to see the difference between Victorian and modern techniques. Ballasting and track-laying machines are like watchng a ballet and are incredible to watch up close.
It's really simple. The cost (profit) is how much effort to lay the line, the distance, and that cost to maintain the line. Labour will nationalise travel and the Tories will find a way to take every penny from you, not just from travel....
Yet here you are - bitching. If you don't like it - act like an adult and dont watch it, but you just sound like like a frustrated 7 year old who hasnt got their own way.
9:40-10:02 "... there is no scale ..." and "... they didn't want scale ..." but (usually) on Roman maps you got travel time in marching days shown as "saw blade line" so the practical info of how long does it take to get there is given! 🗺😉📏
This is an absolute gem! Definitely deserves more attention. A potted history of the evolution of Railway mapping.
Thank you. Not quite sure why it failed as a video. But all good
I have a 3 miles to the 1 inch Road Atlas of Great Britain Fourth Edition 1957 in a roughly A5 hard back format, pre motorways and pre Beeching cuts.
Travelling around now I see remnants of old railways and roads and can instantly see where they went. Fascinating for me, a 50's/60's train enthusiast.
Paul, your enthusiasm for this is infectious. Absolutely fascinating.
Thanks Tom
It might be useful to look past Britain as well. In1807 Franz Josef Ritter von Gerstner was tasked to develop a route to link the Moldau River (and thus the Elbe River) over to the Danube River by canal. After extensive research he proposed using a 130 km (80 mi) railway instead. Despite being a quite montanus stretch it did not intend to use inclined plains as it was standard in England at the time (think developments as late as the 1831 Cromford and High Peak Railway). The route opened in 1827 covering >1600 ft in height without any inclined plane or stationary engine. So yes, Teford had approach, but he was neither alone nor the first well reputed engineer to do so. P.S.: great video.
Very good point. Project for another day soon!
Hi Paul, Very interesting video. What a wonderful time it must have been to be an engineer, draughtsman or surveyor.
As an aside Thomas Telford got his break in Portsmouth in 1784 where he was chosen by architect Samuel Wyatt to oversee the construction of buildings in the dockyard. A blue plaque unveiled in 2007 commemorates his involvement there.
The story behind the William Smith geological map fascinates me, which links in canals, railways, the debtors prison and the building of the Houses of Parliament.
Nice finish to the video👌👌. Always good to see the origins behind TH-cam creators. Mine would be Fort Purbrook which I explored when it was abandoned with my Dad!!
All the best!!
Thanks David. I think you are right. I can't imagine a more peaceful existance than an early canal or railway surveyor. Of course there are some rose tinted glasses there but one can imagine.
Thomas Telford designed the road through the village I live in. He had the top of the hill at one end of the village removed to make a less steep climb for the horses.
This rings a bell.
He built the A5 road from the gates of Buckingham Palace to the Irish Mail Jetty in Holyhead and despite going through the mountains of Snowdonia in Wales he kept the incline below the max permissible for horse drawn carriages (Stagecoaches). The guy was an absolute genius. His life story is fascinating.
The best thing about Thomas Telford is that he was named after a town in Shropshire.
Go for it, whooshers 😂
Yeh: Thomastown. But its not in Shropshire, it's in the South Wales Valleys. Or maybe Trethomas (which is Welsh for Thomas town) also in the south wales valleys.
@@philldavies7940 Isn’t there also somewhere in Russia?
Telford Town was first designated on 16 January 1963. Originally called “Dawley New Town” but renamed probably to cover its miserable design (or lack of). The great man would be disappointed.
Don't have a copy of the Jowetts Atlas but if I did, would be looking at that for hours! Great interesting video.
Find one Simon!
There was a reprint published about thirty years ago. It's okay but the publisher squeezed the maps down to fit the small book size. Try and see the maps before you buy I think you will be disappointed if you get the squashed version.
I have the one from 30 years ago, it’s my dads but I keep trying to steal it
Love these rambles around parts of England.
The Bruce Tunnel reminds me of the folk in the Chilterns and HS2.
In what respect?
@@tremensdelirious They're putting the tracks in a super expensive set of tunnels because a few NIMBY's didn't want to see choo choos going through some fields a few miles from their back garden.
@@TalesOfWar few? I live there and everyone hates it. It’s right on their doorstep too. Must be another HS2 you’re thinking of.
@@tremensdelirious Ah so you're one of the NIMBY's stopping the nation from progressing. Thanks. You got them in a tunnel to avoid having to see them, the north gets nothing.
Very good and very interesting video. We didn't have a railway one for some time now. Nice to see the return of the choochoos.
I've never been this early for a video. Idk why but I find the London underground map style of mapping train lines so satisfying
Absolutely is.
As a Worcestershire boy I can't let this pass without mentioning Bewdley's bridge over the River Severn, which of course was built by Thomas Telford.
The area was a hotbed of transport infrastructure in it's day. The Severn Trows travelled between Bewdley and Bristol with china from Stoke on Trent, unfortunately the journey between Stoke and Bewdley was by mule and this was too slow and resulted in breakages. Along came James Brindley to build a canal, which terminated at the hamlet of Lower Mitton, around which grew the new town of Stourport-on-Severn, then along came the railway which took away the river and canal traffic.
The river, canal and railway fell to the rise of the internal combustion engine and road transport.
So, if you want to see a potted history of transport in the UK, look no further than Bewdley and Stourport-on-Severn!
Went past that spot by the bridges on the Kennett & Avon a couple of years ago, there's something magical about it. The history of the railways from there up to Marlborough would make an interesting video, took me a little while to get my head round. One of many routes where it's a shame they weren't preserved for active travel. Imagine being able to walk or cycle across the canal and on up to Marlborough.
The bridge you were standing on is a route from Littlecote House to Wolf Hall. Henry XII used to stay at Littlecote and the Seymore family owned the hall. That stretch of the canal was my old trip boat patch.
Ah brilliant. Is that the bridleway that just ends
@@pwhitewick Yes. Ends at the deer park. When I was a teenager we had a contact Tottenham House so had assess to the park.
"Henry XII"??? He didn't arrive via The Doctor's blue box did he?! 🤔🙄
Another fascinating Sunday with Paul and Rebecca (I saw her in the background)! Your personal library is enviable. Those maps are true works of art. Thank you.
Thanks Christina
Whoo another interesting and informative video PLUS lots if your infectious enthusiam!. Thank you as ever and enjoy your holiday .
😊😊😊
Thank you Pauline.
This video also reminded me of Gareth Dennis' #Railnatter from the Railway Museum's archives, with one of their archivists. Maybe you could do a deep dive with either Gareth or the NRM's archivist, or both.
This was soooo interesting and well presented! (It also managed to mention two of my favourite places - Caen Hill and Dunham Massey - into one video.) It feels like this is just the start of the story - please do more deep dives like this!
Thanks Charles. More to follow.
Very interesting and informative video. Thank you.
Thanks Malcolm
Your videos are always fantastic. Thank you for all the details! 🗺️
Thanks Christina.
Love that video. And at last someone has told us about Jowett’s. Very useful indeed Paul.
Love the Jowetts
This video ties into some disused railway questions on my mind.
In Medbourne why was a new line built next to a dusused railway (both now abandoned), Head south and why was Rockingham station next to Caldecot. Also who came up with very long name for thr branch line going under the Harringworth viaduct at Seaton?
Anyone would think there was no plan or map at the time.
Such an interesting and well produced upload! Thanks in particular for not using that horrible vertical strip format that has ruined TH-cam. Had this been in vertical I would have downvoted, requested no more feeds from the channel and skipped without watching?
i really enjoyed the video again , very interesting as always, well done and thank you 😊
Cheers Davie. A fun edit.
Hi Paul. I've spent far more hours of my life than I should have pouring over my copy of Jowett's. I share your love of maps, so this video was right up my street.
Jowetts is just something else.
Given the rapid pace of canal and the railway development, I wonder just how many fraudulent schemes sprung up, promising all manner of transport goldmines, but never delivering anything, or just selling fake shares in real companies... not to be confused with genuine efforts that went bankrupt... there seem to be a lot of them!
Yup agreed. I suspect a lot of cash passed a lit of hands!
It's a little known fact that the song "She'll be coming round the mountain" is about fraudulent railroad (I am in the US) schemes. Con men would get a town to invest in a railroad that would supposedly serve them and told the poor investors that it would be "coming round the mountain" any time now.
Absolutely! George Hudson, "The Railway King" was a railway promoter and financier who used business sharp-practice and downright criminality to get his way. He did get a lot of railways built, though! If you're not familiar with him, there's a long Wikipedia article on him.
Thankyou Paul....Brilliant video! As usual....you fill in the bits missed OUT of the History O' level I did on the Industrial Revolution......😊
Another briliant history lesson. Please dont stop.
Thanks Gillian.
Very interesting. Very clever men. We don’t know the half about the making of all those maps. Thank you for sharing your research.
Absolutely. I often wonder about the life of a surveyor.
Absolutely superb, I really enjoyed that.
Many thanks
Great bit of presenting!
Many thanks!
Great video very interesting.
Cheers LK
I love the Railway Clearing House diagrams, such works of art.
And essential for shared lines.
Portsmouth area one is very interesting as we have LSWR metals, LBSCR metals and joint metals all in the same city.
Another wonderful episode paul, your smashing these m8 🤘
Thanks andy
Love both Harry Beck’s brilliant map and those railway clearing house maps of each station and junction - works of art as you say.
Could spend a long time just looking at maps!
I never realised how many there were until I started researching this.
My favourite history teacher. Cheers Paul
Thanks Peter
Fascinating, as usual . Many thanks. I wonder did that big green railway Atlas cover Ireland as well?
It's first in the book!
There has been a Jowett’s atlas on my parents’ bookshelf for 30 years. It is what piqued my curiosity about railway history in the first place.
They'll never notice its gone.... right???
Great stuff yet again Paul. Many thanks
Thanks Dave
superb thank you
On my doorstep again Paul, so great to see.
I'm always looking forward to your interesting Videos Paul - keep them coming 😊🚂🚂🚂
there were early railways here in Lothian - such as the Edinburgh/Dalkeith Innocent railway, that were horse-drawn - they even used iron rails - as Telford came from not far south of here, it seems unlikey he wasn't inspired by those.
That definitely makes sense.
Ignore the doubters and the naysayers Paul, you can walk around wnenever wherever you want and even waffle to your heart's content. I will be here watching, listening and learning and most of all enjoying what you do!
Bicycling from Montréal Caada down to Delaware and then Washington DC a few times forced me to learn a lot about the various areas to find the appropriate routes. And there are interesting similarities with your video. The Delaware and Hudson was a canal company and they had built a canal linking the Delaware river to the Hudson river for carrying coal to cities and goods from cities. In areas where navigation was not possible, hirse drawn "railway" were used nd that really slowed navigation down to bridge that gap.
Once you could put a steam powered engine on tracks, all bets were off. Delaware and Hudson started to build railways. Cornelius Vanderbuilt who ran ships decided to start buying into railways and couldl create the New York Central.
Baltimore and Ohio railway competed against the Cheseapeake and Ohio canal to get goods/coal to Washington (in fact at Washington, the 2 parralel each other, but the railway is now the Capital Crescent bike path).
The prize was to connect to Chicago. New York Central built along the Hudson river to Albany and gong went from Albany was more or less flat. Pennsyvania Railroad wasn't so lucky and had big mountains to cross west of Philadelphia. So the challenges were more in surveying for routes as opposed to mapping them.
More on old closed railways and infrastructure please
Alas. The view count on this one shows why we don't
Ah! I beg to differ with your confession with regard to maps.
I also love maps to an insane degree but do not class myself as an idiot, but more an over-enthusiast. There is nothing wrong with being, not only engaged, but also proficient with your skill!
Fab! That book by Jowett looks like a lovely piece for the coffee table 😍
Very much so!
Another great video released on the same day they cancelled the two mile tunnel near Stonehenge!
Two great things all on one day 😊
the post at 1: 15, could that be an ancient piece of rail?
Yup. From memory it's likely a bit of old GWR broad gauge.
@@pwhitewickit is indeed bridge rail from the broad gauge era. Very common alongside former GW lines
There are lots of similar posts along the Kennet and Avon canal. They are from when the railway owned the canal and they were used as distance markers. Some are quite short and still have little bits of wooden plank fixed on them to make a notice, but the legend has long since vanished
@@amandachapman4708 I've actually seen posts made of bridge rail that look like the original longitudinal sleeper is still attached albeit it very heavily rotted
Fun fact. I live in clevedon and our famous pier is made out of Barlow rail - also used in the broad gauge in the south Wales railway
Making that underground map with a tool like MS visio would be a fairly simple job. Doing it with pen and paper must have been a hell of a task 😅
Just a thought., before there was a station to leave... Oyster mouth Railway carried passengers in 1807????
Yup... Swansea?
@@pwhitewick yes, latterly the beloved Mumbles Railway
The canals and railroad are thousands of years old, all that Telford did was to have the navies dig them out from the mud flooded land
Brilliant video sir!
Many thanks!
Great video as usual, Paul.
Love your content ❤
Really interesting video..😀👍
Thanks Shaun
light bulb idea
Prat tell
At 1.15 an interesting bit of rail on the left at the crossing point. ?
Yup. Nice bit of GWR broad gauge.
I love a good map! Thanks Paul!
The first fare paying passenger service operated on the Oystermouth Railway back in 1807. But this was no means the only railway then in existence and predates Mr James by 15 years.
Indeed.
Remember my first visit in the 70's when the Caen hill locks were derelict
I think I must have viewed it soon after!
I Love the great central London extension. Paul could you please work out what bits of rebuilding old railway etc have been stopped or abandoned by Labour? The news channels keep saying this but no detail outside of HS2? Please help I need to know.
Labour have been in government 2 weeks. They have abandoned 2 road projects. The Tories wanted to do nothing but build roads and roads and roads. They came up with a "rebuilding railways" brand and yet gave it a budget of 500 million (cost of building a roundabout in Hull). Labour seem to be committed to public transport sp let watch this space.
Please can we take a look at the Roman Map.
Two videos already on this channel alllll about.
08:48 Have you ever been to Potteric Carr? Its not a lovely nature reserve in and aroud the still in operation and disused railway lines.
E roads. The old drovers roads, toll free for drovers to move livestock. Did they follow ancient routes? Could be a tricky one as local councils were reluctant to publish or even give access to them because they are responsible for the upkeep
Eventual rail building was capitalism and commercialism gone riot.
I think if it had been planned for people rather than profit, it would’ve taken so long and still not provided the network we have even now.
Hi everybody! What an amazing unroll of Peutinger.s Tabula, but this early map didn’t use any technique of modern mapmaking, that’s why it is so strange!
The peutinger is just brilliant isn't it. Follows no rules. If anything... a transit!?
Paul, sorry, what was the name of the book of railway Maps that you mentioned in the green hardback cover and recommended to us please? Also could you please give us the ISBN number as well because that would make it easier to find?
Jowetts. "Railway Atlas".
Fascinating stuff, on another note, you need to cut that grass and treat it for dandelions!
Shocking isnt it.
My fascination is how railways changed over time - how they got from ten stations to twenty and then back to four or disappeared completely; if that makes sense. I'm colourblind, so the colours hold no interest for me, but maps are amazing, showing me places that as a child I could only imagine. In my late fifties now and there are still many places that I have not seen or visited, but maps still hold my fascination. The underdog railways are far more impressive than the big companies, because they had a goal in mind. Customer service over profit, in my opinion, is how railways should be run. Unfortunately, they aren't and customer numbers have suffered because of it. But another fascination is watching how new tracks are laid. I'm sure viewers would love to see the difference between Victorian and modern techniques. Ballasting and track-laying machines are like watchng a ballet and are incredible to watch up close.
Gosh that was an odd pronunciation of Trevithick. Tre-Vith-Ick and the the Vith is pronounced Viv.
Ah got to love TH-cam bots commenting on videos 😅
Different isn't it!
What do you mean? These are genuine people, this video gives me luscious and erroneous thoughts I should be ashamed of.
@@madgardener5820Wow they’re so quick to have watched a 12 min video in seconds plus they have an interesting taste in profile picture 😅
@@pwhitewickThose aside, this video was great! Really interesting to watch 😁
I wondered what you were refering to. I think I have spotted them now ...
I am getting old but after several "I'll get back to that later" comments I got completely lost with the story,
You're right... largely because I'm also old. The main point was that they needed the non-scale. I didn't frame the story well enough.
@@pwhitewick It was still very nice to follow you around and pick out what I could.
It's really simple. The cost (profit) is how much effort to lay the line, the distance, and that cost to maintain the line. Labour will nationalise travel and the Tories will find a way to take every penny from you, not just from travel....
Huh
Nope. Didn't understand a word of that.
I would like to know how you got to go on you tube you are so full of it.
Mikey babes, you ok?
you really do make yourself look silly. i used to enjoy the canal videos but all you do now is try to debunk experts. ridiculous
How am I debunking experts? All I'm doing is discussion 5 maps.
Yet here you are - bitching. If you don't like it - act like an adult and dont watch it, but you just sound like like a frustrated 7 year old who hasnt got their own way.
And as everyone knows, experts are always right!
Paul just fills in the previously missing bits...REALLY interesting presentation......AS ALLWAYS
Huh?
🤣🤣🤣
9:40-10:02 "... there is no scale ..." and "... they didn't want scale ..." but (usually) on Roman maps you got travel time in marching days shown as "saw blade line" so the practical info of how long does it take to get there is given! 🗺😉📏