Thanks! Super helpful video. I just did an Elgin 313 restoration, and everything is running correctly, except that the balance is really slow, similar to what I was seeing at the beginning of your video. I'll try adjusting the beat error, and see if I can't get it to speed up and run accurately.
Hey there! Wouldn't it be better to remove the wheel and hairspring from the balance cock, make the adjustment and then install it again? I see many chances to make very bad mistakes in a regular sized watch or smaller movement. Thoughts? Btw I've going to watchmaking school since march so I'm by no means an expert, just wanted to ask you, thanks for sharing!
That would definitely be the best way to do it! But you have to adjust it many many times, because it is such a precise adjustment. It would just take longer doing it that way. “The proper way”
I have I 1913,0mega pocket watch with beat error of 4.8 and amp of 205! I’m an omega vintage wristwatch person but never serviced pocket watches… what’s an acceptable amp& beat error.. I’m a bit hesitant to play with such an attractive piece? Where are you located..
Ive been taking the HS off the bakance cock trying to regulate and ruining springs due to my inexperiece. I will try your method. I thought sbout doing ot this way but was afraid of bensing the spring. Any tips for giaging how far I can stretch the spring without deformation?
@@TimelyMatter I ended up ordering 10 balances off eBay for $3 each for an NH35. This will make it drop dead easy to practice. I also found and ordered some $2 Raketa movements to play with off Etsy.
Video très instructive! Merci, mais si c'est possible d'avoir une autre encore plus détaillée, merci d'avance, je ne suis pas pro.....tout simplement hobbyist. Pour pouvoir voir clairement comment il procède.Merci
I can get the beat error down to 0.1ms in one position, but as soon as I tilt the movement to another position, the beat error goes off the chart. And the rate as well. I suspect there is something completely off with my movement..
It most likely that the hairspring isn’t perfectly centered. Different positions will affect how the hairspring hangs. Thus moving where the balance will settle. Moving the roller jewel. But that’s just a guess! Thanks for the comment:)
@@TimelyMatter That is most likely the case. There was a screw that got lodged into the hairspring section, and I realized something was wrong because it had stopped ticking. When I took it out the rate was all over the place, and that is why I was trying to regulate it. I believe the hairspring is either bent or off centered.
@TimelyMatter stabbed my thumb with the screwdriver doing just that. Those horotech screwdrivers are damm sharp. Blead all over my 1910 omega goliath. Took ages to get the blood out of the jewels.
Big thanks for the tutorial. Time to try and wish me luck. Greeting from Indonesia.
You’re welcome! Thank you!
Thanks! I'll be doing this shortly for my first time on my first pocket watch service/fix.
That’s awesome! It’s important!
very informative, also love the sherpa jacket!!
Thank you! I appreciate the support!
Awesome quick video and exactly what I was looking for
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Thank you! I’m glad it helped.
Amazing! I have watched a ton of videos and never learned about this! Such a simple thing, relatively speaking.
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thank you.
In russia we play with atomic energy you play wuth old watches...
First class. Greetings from The Netherlands.
Thank you!
Thanks! Super helpful video. I just did an Elgin 313 restoration, and everything is running correctly, except that the balance is really slow, similar to what I was seeing at the beginning of your video. I'll try adjusting the beat error, and see if I can't get it to speed up and run accurately.
I hope you can! Balance work is very tedious. Good luck!
Hey Asa, I didn't realize you have a youtube channel. This video was very helpful, thanks!
Hey Carl! Just made it! Thanks!
Hey there! Wouldn't it be better to remove the wheel and hairspring from the balance cock, make the adjustment and then install it again? I see many chances to make very bad mistakes in a regular sized watch or smaller movement. Thoughts? Btw I've going to watchmaking school since march so I'm by no means an expert, just wanted to ask you, thanks for sharing!
That would definitely be the best way to do it! But you have to adjust it many many times, because it is such a precise adjustment. It would just take longer doing it that way. “The proper way”
I have I 1913,0mega pocket watch with beat error of 4.8 and amp of 205! I’m an omega vintage wristwatch person but never serviced pocket watches… what’s an acceptable amp& beat error.. I’m a bit hesitant to play with such an attractive piece? Where are you located..
I’d be happy to look at it for you! Thank you for the email!
As an additional bonus this video is demonstrating how to absolutely ruin the poisoning of this cut open balance wheel.
Thank you!
@@TimelyMatter Never ever grab it by the sides. Always grab it flat! You squashed it unintentionally.
@@rosomak8244 Thank you for the critique, I appreciate it. I'm Always trying to do better work.
Pretty brave to do this without removing the movement from the case. However, good job.
I have some this a time or 2, also some watches it’s possible, some watches it’s not.
Ive been taking the HS off the bakance cock trying to regulate and ruining springs due to my inexperiece. I will try your method. I thought sbout doing ot this way but was afraid of bensing the spring.
Any tips for giaging how far I can stretch the spring without deformation?
It’s definitely something to do with a lot of care. Please do adjustments with caution!
@@TimelyMatter I ended up ordering 10 balances off eBay for $3 each for an NH35. This will make it drop dead easy to practice. I also found and ordered some $2 Raketa movements to play with off Etsy.
Did you check beat error in other positions as well?
I sure did! Thank you!
@@TimelyMatter How much of a variation did it have ? The beat error.
@@contrast1908 This was a while ago, but I wont accept anything over .01ms. It has to be 0 or .01ms off. Thank you!
Other positions then bottom and top demonstrate only how well the balance wheel sits in its bearings.
Video très instructive! Merci, mais si c'est possible d'avoir une autre encore plus détaillée, merci d'avance, je ne suis pas pro.....tout simplement hobbyist. Pour pouvoir voir clairement comment il procède.Merci
I can get the beat error down to 0.1ms in one position, but as soon as I tilt the movement to another position, the beat error goes off the chart. And the rate as well. I suspect there is something completely off with my movement..
It most likely that the hairspring isn’t perfectly centered. Different positions will affect how the hairspring hangs. Thus moving where the balance will settle. Moving the roller jewel. But that’s just a guess! Thanks for the comment:)
@@TimelyMatter That is most likely the case. There was a screw that got lodged into the hairspring section, and I realized something was wrong because it had stopped ticking. When I took it out the rate was all over the place, and that is why I was trying to regulate it. I believe the hairspring is either bent or off centered.
I wish i vould see what you're doing
Great video! Thanks! I have to do that on an ETA 2472 soon and it was very helpful seeing this! Super interested in the next one too!
You are amazing. Thank you! I cant wait for your videos as well!
loved it, first video I've seen with someone adjust the beat error without taking the balance complete off of the balance cock
Thank you! If you're careful it makes the process a lot easier and quicker!
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Now do it drunk. Its much more fun
Been there. Fun time lol
@TimelyMatter stabbed my thumb with the screwdriver doing just that. Those horotech screwdrivers are damm sharp. Blead all over my 1910 omega goliath. Took ages to get the blood out of the jewels.