@@Tokomori56 knew it. So to make everyone in complete agreement. Xenophanes is the one who chose Sonic because he was popular; X and Lord X are the fanboys; “Sonic” is the delusional maniac that thinks he’s Sonic and will kill you if you tell him otherwise; EXE/Faker, Bandado and Sally_ALT are the haters of the fanboys. Did I get that right?
Oh btw just to let you know 2017X’s Lyrics in the Subterfuge song, Near the end he says “Death defying, Redefining, Now i see the SILVER lining.” Which is a direct reference to the 2017X story where one of his main victims becomes Silver The Hedgehog. Aswell as the rest of the song’s lyrics talk about how 2017X feels on tails Shunning him and refusing that he is sonic. Its a extremely deep sonic the more you look into the lyrics and meaning. Sturm is a GENIUS
Its fun to think that 2017x left the void because EXE and Lord X kept trying to tell him in a therapy like manner that he isnt the real sonic and 2017x just having a mental breakdown before he just decides to leave entirely
@@matheuspires2462 And Lord X would try to explain to him that theres a difference in "Liking Sonic" and "deluding yourself into thinking you ARE sonic"
I am a huge fan of 2017X for a lot of the reasons you listed. But my favorite parts about him such as his Story and Personality, is his interaction with other Sonic Characters. There is a surprising lot of so no s where he facing more then the main cast.
Oh yeah! Might do a follow up on the interactions 2017X has with the cast, I’ve heard about the relationship between him and Amy and it’s kinda adorable ngl
@@Duncachi Well from only what I know about here on TH-cam, ( really haven’t done much Googling on 2017X’s interactions) there are Two songs that I know of where he deals with characters. The first is called “Petrified” and it’s where poor cream happens to stumble upon ‘Sonic’. The other one is called “Tremor” where it see’s Silver pit up against him. Know I would like to remind these are fan made songs about 2017X that aren’t A part of Legacy, but I think they still fit his character well even if they don’t have much of a story.
Oh and I almost forgot, I wanted to leave some recommendations on other sonics. The ones you might get a kick out of are Faker, (If you like Lord X a bunch, he did make this guy) Hog, (Think of this guy a new take on Faker, yet still different) and All Father, (This one apparently claims to be the Father of all EXE’s, I found him interesting.) I love watching BF your content man, like a breathe of fresh air to me. Keep doing what you love!
2017X is basically the most delusional exe of all time and it works for him, like if he meets the real sonic he won't just be like: NO I AM THE REAL SONIC, but he'll have a mental breakdown since he knows inside that he is not the real sonic, he is basically like what people think when they hear a sonic fan
Honestly I could see 2017X with some tweaks being introduced as a new Sonic villan. Like a new powerful and ancient entity becomes obsessed with Sonic, captures his friends and trys to replace the real Sonic, has a breakdown and trys to kill everyone when Sonic finds them? Yeah that sounds like something Sonic would face.
In my opinion, the line, “I’ll make you play along in time with me” sounds like 2017x is telling tails That he may hit believe he’s Sonic now, but 2017x will force him to believe he’s Sonic through force. He will make tails play along with him in time.
Surprised you didn’t cover the fact that “Sonic” will brainwash the victims he comes into contact with to play the roles of their respective character.
Imma be real,I see 2017 X being in an official sonic game,his a rare one without blood,i think his lore is still a wip but we still got enough of him to learn the character,and whats funny,is that he made it outside the exe and sonic fandom, which is funny as hell in my opinion,not even rewrite had that treatment lol
from what i remember being stated, tails is once again not tails. a lot of these exe universes opt for human souls being trapped in the sonic characters bodies like how tails in 2011x universe is a person named Alan (a lot of this is lost when playing or watching anything with them due to the player tails' not having a unique design to them. this is only told to you when you look them up on the exe wiki & following their twitter (or in alan's case looking at the players name at the hide and seek section of the game) but from what i remember was stated, 2017x believes his friends are trapped in the players bodies like badniks and takes the human's soul and forces them into the character. It's theorized the human that is trapped in tails' body is named tom due to 2017x making references to certain lines from the original CJ story but nothing is confirmed yet of the player tails' name. but why 2017x is mad is because tails who is a human isn't playing their part as the character and is constantly reminding 2017x that he isn't sonic and they aren't tails witch is breaking 2017x's delusions and causes him to see the player as the problem. now reminder this is only what i remember, Not all of it is fact and i could be misremembering things from old tweets.
The wiki says the current iteration is nearly the same as the original reboot by JC (idk how the cult would work though), and the line “Now I the SILVER lining”, with silver being in a different font in the lyrics video, implies that Tom still becomes Silver in the current version of the story
2017x will literally never get old for me. He is one of my personal favorites, and even though a few come close, I think he is the most goofy and cool.
Fun fact: There are actually *3* leitmotifs in Subterfuge. There's Silly Billy, which is quite an obvious motif, as it's front and center. Tails, near the end sings "His World." In retaliation, however, 2017 X sings "Fatality" (Fatal Error's song in Sonic.EXE 3.0). Tails singing His World might be him referencing what the REAL Sonic would do to his friends. 2017 X singing Fatality in response to Tails' His World motif is literally X saying Tails made a fatal error in thinking he's not Sonic.
I've said this on a different video but I'll say it here as well I think a cool way of making an EXE unique is to not make the EXE a supernatural entity, but instead from some psychotic kid's imagination. Imagine playing an EXE game where you're a father trying to connect with your son, who likes making sonic romhacks. So you play one of them, only to discover your son's using the romhacks to play out his violent fantasies. Characters are renamed to people you know the Son doesn't like, a school bully, a former friend... and then you. At the end you find out your son is using the romhack to plan out something he wants to do in real life.
This concept is pretty interesting! I think there’s a lot of freedom and ideas people can utilize, and I hope to see more unique exes in future sonic or not!
From what I know... The Silly Billy part was always meant to be from Silly Billy, and it was such a banger combo of music that Subertufuge borrowed it. However, Subterfuge was finished earlier, and so it also released earlier, but the "Silly Billy" part is from Silly Billy.
Subterfuge was made and released before Silly Billy, and sturm made lyrics for it. He liked the lyrics in one part so he added it to silly billy. Then Subterfuge with lyrics came out and silly billy came out a month or 2 later.
Subterfuge, like the actual fnf song subterfuge was made before the version gurgney created, the beat you recognize as “silly Billy” ‘s originally comes from an fnf mod not actually related to churgney.
i think what he meant by "whats the point, in playing make-believe?" is that he thinks tails is making up that he isnt sonic, cause, of course, he directly believes he IS sonic
some things I'd like to point out 1:49, x's power traits are still viewable in him, esspecially his true form. But becaues of his obsession with being sonic, he's limited to only knowing what sonic can do and not what he can do. This is also why he has a true form, it's his proclein skin cracking open what's inside of his shell 5:44 yes, it was infact Subterfuge then Silly billy then Subterfuge with lyrics 6:12, he's so delusional in his beliefs that he thinks he's right and anyone who defys him are merely the broken ones and he can fix, which is why tails is being called the Naive one. 7:49 correct, his only weakness is mental strengh and not physical, he can't be logically killed in a fight due to him still inhebiditing x's powers (unless he's fighting a foe that matches his powers like for example lord x or exe/faker) but even then it's merely hard to break through his mind Hopefully this is useful enough to explain
Oh boy that would go 1 of 2 ways Path 1: tails freaks out and set’s 2017x off, likely causing their deaths Path 2: tails amy and knuckles all accept him as an actual sonic version + he joins the team
As a autistic kid 2017x is literally breaking my mind. Is that there's other ones like mario or the black and white sonic figure holding the ring and play subterfuge The design itself is so simple and the way he smile makes me laugh every time Especially in roblox And I love this one video "YOU DROP YOUR WALLET"
1:42 just a little correction on this statement. Sonic.exe's backstory since his inception by jc has always been that he was a creature born from the void, 2011X, Lord X, "Sonic" etc are all just using that lore as a base for the characters
Yes, it was passed down. It used to be called eye to an eye in the original first sonic.EX mod but silly Billy and subterfuge went their separate ways. And yeah, they became their own songs. 5:58
Sonic 2017 or pale hedgehog is in his désillusion of him thinking he’s the actual sonic the hedgehog and everybody that disagree with him is the problem so if you play along in his désillusion he more chill but that doesn’t mean is not violent
Love 2017x. I will say his game isn't necessarily Sonic 06 but has some elements to it 😂. On another note I am pretty sure "tails" isn't even tails to begin with either just someone 2017x saw playing his game and said, "Yes, you are tails, my best friend." Man I can't wait for his and Xenophanes stories to be complete. They are my top 2 favorites personally.
Yeah, just read a bit on the wiki and saw 06 and I’m like “why-“ I mean? I liked the sonic portions in the game! But that game is- an experience to say the least Honestly him being that delusional makes sense! Can’t wait to hear the rest of it, sonic legacy is gonna be peak too!!
Currently I am xenophanes biggest hater after the events of too slow, you cant run, and triple trouble. The fact that he lost bf and even crashed out over it so bad he transformed like a super sayain just for his slaves to be set free and for him to loose pisses me off. So like you I cant wait for his story to complete, and I cant wait to see what sonic legacy does with him.
@v0rbxv244 Technically, that was not actually Xenophanes. It was stated by Raven that it was more of a representation of Sonic.exe as a whole and a thing of showing how Sonic.exe has changed over the years. She also strictly said that it was more of Rightburst's creation than Shei's. Sadly, he won't have any representation in Legacy due to Shei not wanting to be associated with fnf anymore after all the drama that happened in vs sonic.exe.
How I make it simpler for me is that Allfather is the first exe. 2011x was his first transformation and "child" and so on and so forth with 2017x to scrimbo to omt to xenophanes. For Lord X, I think of him as a separate being from the all father, hence how they made Exe or faker. and for other exes that dont fall in line with allfather (requital, fatal error, etc.) their stories explains how they came to be. I know this isnt canon since allfather isnt canon, but its the simpliest way I can make it for myself
@ ? I said subterfuge was made first, Then silly Billy was made Then subterfuge with lyrics was made last. That’s the order of how they were produced. Silly Billy was publicly released after subterfuge with lyrics was due to production of hit single taking longer. I hope was more clear this time.
I would love to see some insane version of this guy fighting off a different .exe. Like, imagine he somehow winds up in Lord Xs realm, sees him attacking tails for the umptillionth time, and decides "I gotta save him!" And getting into an insane battle.
One thing you missed that was pointed out to me by a friend of mine is that in the final verse, "silver" in "NOW I SEE THE SILVER LINING" has been marked with a different font. This is most likely in reference to Silver the Hedgehog, one of the characters in 2006, but also possibly one of the victims of 2017X.
I think 2017 is so interesting to a lot of people is because he falls under the idea of ‘the guy who just wants people to see him the way he sees himself’ that a lot of people love, kind of like that PS1 guy from Smiling Friends Also unrelated, I like to think that EXE (or Faker) see each other as brothers (coming from the same creator- Lord X- and everything) EXE is more mentally put together, he’s just really angry and hates almost everything, but he has a soft spot for his mentally ill older brother (as 2017x canonically came first before EXE)
I do like him, but there is one thing that I kind of have a problem with, and that is that his design is just kind of a nothing burger. Which could’ve been fine, I do like minimalistic designs, but 2017 kinda feels minimalistic in the wrong way. Not sure what it is, but he kinda just looks like a beta design for Werehog Sonic.
Video title : 2017X is the most unique sonic exe (I can't accept that people consider the name of the game and the stories about 2011X to be his name). Meanwhile exetior, sonic OMT, all father, lord mortis and other : 👏🗿🗿🗿🗿
OMT and The All Father are literally retakes that don't really change anything OMT is like "OooOOOooOOo I'm sonic.exe but with shapeshifting powers and apparently i'm supposed to be the og exe but i'm actually not so that's pretty confusing" The all father is more like "I'm sonic.exe and the only thing that's different about me is the fact that i am the """father""" of all the exes, exes that are not even the original ones but retakes on them so the original owners don't get mad at me" I don't have any beef with exetior, he's fine Actually i don't have beef with any exe but yeahhh i gotta admit they are not that unique
@@AweAtWork Sonic OMT in his canon prevented the birth of 2011Х literally . and the allfather is an alternative version of 2011X, which is unique in its own way, given that Lord x is the only one who is an offshoot of the canon, all the other "exe" are imitators of OG X..
All father is very unique along side Lord Mortis! but ehh..omt not really, his ok but not spectacular besides the pixel art. and dude dont put EXETIOR WITH THEM HIS GENUINELY A PIECE OF CARDBOARD
It's honestly pathetic how OMT is so ignored given how good his games actually are. I get people are sick of 2011 Sonic.exe's story being retold but you can't just sit here and act like OMT doesn't have more to him on his end. Not to mention his game is pretty damn unique compared to the others. But it is what it is.
you forgot to say for mortis that he is a 2011 that was gonna tred the path of the Lord X but got his powers taken away from him and left to grow with the victims that he tortured
personally, i find the fact 2017 is just 2011 if he were even more obsessed with sonic rather funny. it means 2011 has two “future” variants. lord x, which seems the most likely, or 2017 if he just descends further into insanity.
There's the third, lord mortis, an alternate lord x classed as canon where x gets usurped by bandado, and thrown into fire, becoming more of an anti-hero I assume he was usurped due to lack of guardians So it's either X forgets himself and falks further into his obsession X continues to master his capabilities and makes only a singular mistake in that making life of his own (EXE) Or No healthcare so womp womp for x
what if 2017x met tails secret histories? Wouldnt they get along real well since in the og vid he was looking for the real sonic who is tail's best friend. edit:If was is
Sonic the hedgehog: hey you you kinda look like me
2017 X:"mental breakdown noises"
*there can be only one of us*
There is only one Sonic...
@@khenanaqlan6909 "this town ain't big enough for 2 of us"
"WHY ARE YOU ME" 2017 x
lore wise he killed tails when he was talking about sonic and he x isnt sonic
The fact that 2017x chose the 06 era will never not be funny
He got weird game taste
I feel like he just chose it to replace sonic in the Elise kiss scene
@@matheuspires2462 LMFAO
@@matheuspires2462
2017X a FREAK. 🔥👅🔥
@@toastedprocastinator no wonder he turned into a freaky meme
@@matheuspires2462"HEY!!! HEY MISS!!!! YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET MISS!!!! GET BACK HERE!!!! IT'S ME SONIC T. HEDGEHOG!!!!"
2017x is low key one of my favorites, like hes just an extreme sonic fanboy while still being a sadistic entity
He is a sonic LARPer
This description also applies to 2011x and Lord X, btw.
He's not a fanboy, hes delusional kinda. He thinks he's sonic.
@@VicoX-u9mit mostly applies to X in general
@@Tokomori56 knew it.
So to make everyone in complete agreement.
Xenophanes is the one who chose Sonic because he was popular;
X and Lord X are the fanboys;
“Sonic” is the delusional maniac that thinks he’s Sonic and will kill you if you tell him otherwise;
EXE/Faker, Bandado and Sally_ALT are the haters of the fanboys.
Did I get that right?
Oh btw just to let you know 2017X’s Lyrics in the Subterfuge song, Near the end he says
“Death defying, Redefining, Now i see the SILVER lining.”
Which is a direct reference to the 2017X story where one of his main victims becomes Silver The Hedgehog.
Aswell as the rest of the song’s lyrics talk about how 2017X feels on tails Shunning him and refusing that he is sonic. Its a extremely deep sonic the more you look into the lyrics and meaning. Sturm is a GENIUS
raven wrote the lyrics
*Raven is a GENIUS.
@@Agent-John Oh yeah my bad
Its fun to think that 2017x left the void because EXE and Lord X kept trying to tell him in a therapy like manner that he isnt the real sonic and 2017x just having a mental breakdown before he just decides to leave entirely
@@FutileStruggleofaBoulder imagine the exes make a intervention in a therapy circle to convince him he's not Sonic
@@matheuspires2462 And Lord X would try to explain to him that theres a difference in "Liking Sonic" and "deluding yourself into thinking you ARE sonic"
@@FutileStruggleofaBoulder yeah
2011 is lord x
That’s the only thing I could make out when I watched this in Russian I watched ten minutes of fucking sonic in russian
2017 X’s owner, Raven, made a thread explaining all of the lyrics in Subterfuge. It’s linked in the trivia section of the wiki page
I am a huge fan of 2017X for a lot of the reasons you listed. But my favorite parts about him such as his Story and Personality, is his interaction with other Sonic Characters. There is a surprising lot of so no s where he facing more then the main cast.
Oh yeah! Might do a follow up on the interactions 2017X has with the cast, I’ve heard about the relationship between him and Amy and it’s kinda adorable ngl
@@Duncachi Well from only what I know about here on TH-cam, ( really haven’t done much Googling on 2017X’s interactions) there are Two songs that I know of where he deals with characters. The first is called “Petrified” and it’s where poor cream happens to stumble upon ‘Sonic’. The other one is called “Tremor” where it see’s Silver pit up against him. Know I would like to remind these are fan made songs about 2017X that aren’t A part of Legacy, but I think they still fit his character well even if they don’t have much of a story.
Oh and I almost forgot, I wanted to leave some recommendations on other sonics. The ones you might get a kick out of are Faker, (If you like Lord X a bunch, he did make this guy) Hog, (Think of this guy a new take on Faker, yet still different) and All Father, (This one apparently claims to be the Father of all EXE’s, I found him interesting.)
I love watching BF your content man, like a breathe of fresh air to me. Keep doing what you love!
2017X is basically the most delusional exe of all time and it works for him, like if he meets the real sonic he won't just be like: NO I AM THE REAL SONIC, but he'll have a mental breakdown since he knows inside that he is not the real sonic, he is basically like what people think when they hear a sonic fan
2017x is so well done he's making his way as a meme in the normal Sonic fandom
also a future EXE game is going to feature him as a playable killer (Outcome Memories)
He became the symbol of freakiness in the exe community off of one GIF
Why 2017X is the most unique Sonic.EXE
“Is it because he’s naked?”
he Just doesnt Has Shoes. EVERY SONIC IS NAKED-
@@Davidsevasti no gloves either
@@Davidsevasti i feel like having shoes means your feet aren't naked... so you aren't COMPLETELY naked
That’s kinda the reason I don’t really like him, there’s nothing wrong with the character, but if he puts some shoes then there wouldn’t be an issue
0:22 dude looks majestic
Honestly I could see 2017X with some tweaks being introduced as a new Sonic villan.
Like a new powerful and ancient entity becomes obsessed with Sonic, captures his friends and trys to replace the real Sonic, has a breakdown and trys to kill everyone when Sonic finds them? Yeah that sounds like something Sonic would face.
In my opinion, the line,
“I’ll make you play along in time with me” sounds like 2017x is telling tails
That he may hit believe he’s Sonic now, but 2017x will force him to believe he’s Sonic through force.
He will make tails play along with him in time.
"Sonic through force"
@@coolioman9073sonic force
WAIT NO
NO
NO
@@AlbertsStuffParody*YOURE GOING BACK TO SONIC FORCES LITTLE BOY* 😈
@@stardan0862
Michael, don't leave me here....MICHAEL!!!!
@@coolioman9073”Sonic… this whole 2017x situation is terrible. It’s like HE always has the master plan. Sonic, we’re going to have join forces.”
2017x is when there is a character in a game/show that you like so much you base your personality entirely off of it
Surprised you didn’t cover the fact that “Sonic” will brainwash the victims he comes into contact with to play the roles of their respective character.
where are you getting all this lore
@@logangoodwin451 From the wiki of course
@@agentthree82 ah ok
Imma be real,I see 2017 X being in an official sonic game,his a rare one without blood,i think his lore is still a wip but we still got enough of him to learn the character,and whats funny,is that he made it outside the exe and sonic fandom, which is funny as hell in my opinion,not even rewrite had that treatment lol
Give him shoes and gloves and a different back story and it would prob work
5:16 DON'T YOU GET IT!? SONIC'S BEST FRIEND IS TAILS! ME!!!
@@bruh-bm9jr mashed tails fr
That’s an interesting interaction
Tails is obsessed with sonic
Sonic is obsessed with sonic 🤔
@@Duncachi wait bro you actually got a point there, we have to see that interaction 😭
@@bruh-bm9jrsomeone drew that interaction and its just “Sonic” saying “This guy is NOT my friend.”
I got theory
What if SH/mashed tails is “Sonic’s” tails they have lots of similarities
from what i remember being stated, tails is once again not tails. a lot of these exe universes opt for human souls being trapped in the sonic characters bodies like how tails in 2011x universe is a person named Alan (a lot of this is lost when playing or watching anything with them due to the player tails' not having a unique design to them. this is only told to you when you look them up on the exe wiki & following their twitter (or in alan's case looking at the players name at the hide and seek section of the game)
but from what i remember was stated, 2017x believes his friends are trapped in the players bodies like badniks and takes the human's soul and forces them into the character.
It's theorized the human that is trapped in tails' body is named tom due to 2017x making references to certain lines from the original CJ story but nothing is confirmed yet of the player tails' name.
but why 2017x is mad is because tails who is a human isn't playing their part as the character and is constantly reminding 2017x that he isn't sonic and they aren't tails witch is breaking 2017x's delusions and causes him to see the player as the problem.
now reminder this is only what i remember, Not all of it is fact and i could be misremembering things from old tweets.
The wiki says the current iteration is nearly the same as the original reboot by JC (idk how the cult would work though), and the line “Now I the SILVER lining”, with silver being in a different font in the lyrics video, implies that Tom still becomes Silver in the current version of the story
He gets angry at tails for not roleplaying
Funniest shit ever
2017x will literally never get old for me. He is one of my personal favorites, and even though a few come close, I think he is the most goofy and cool.
Fun fact: There are actually *3* leitmotifs in Subterfuge. There's Silly Billy, which is quite an obvious motif, as it's front and center. Tails, near the end sings "His World." In retaliation, however, 2017 X sings "Fatality" (Fatal Error's song in Sonic.EXE 3.0). Tails singing His World might be him referencing what the REAL Sonic would do to his friends. 2017 X singing Fatality in response to Tails' His World motif is literally X saying Tails made a fatal error in thinking he's not Sonic.
more like silly billy has a subterfuge motif since subterfuge came first
@@SpectacularStuuureal
Sonic T. Hedgehog: "hey-"
2017x: *family guy death pose*
2017X IS MY FAV EXE!!! So glad you talked abt him!
Same
I've said this on a different video but I'll say it here as well
I think a cool way of making an EXE unique is to not make the EXE a supernatural entity, but instead from some psychotic kid's imagination. Imagine playing an EXE game where you're a father trying to connect with your son, who likes making sonic romhacks. So you play one of them, only to discover your son's using the romhacks to play out his violent fantasies. Characters are renamed to people you know the Son doesn't like, a school bully, a former friend... and then you. At the end you find out your son is using the romhack to plan out something he wants to do in real life.
This concept is pretty interesting! I think there’s a lot of freedom and ideas people can utilize, and I hope to see more unique exes in future sonic or not!
Its cool to see how passionated and his enthusiasm in all da video, its very cool, thanks for presenting me Sonic the hedgehog lol
Expect plenty more to come!
Glad you enjoyed it, I have a lot of fun with these videos!
2017X was always my favorite his story and lore was always so unique.
Fun Fact: 2017X is so obsessed with Sonic the Hedgehog that it surpasses X's level of obsession.
From what I know...
The Silly Billy part was always meant to be from Silly Billy, and it was such a banger combo of music that Subertufuge borrowed it. However, Subterfuge was finished earlier, and so it also released earlier, but the "Silly Billy" part is from Silly Billy.
no it came from subterfuge sillybilly borrowed it from subterfuge
Subterfuge was made and released before Silly Billy, and sturm made lyrics for it. He liked the lyrics in one part so he added it to silly billy. Then Subterfuge with lyrics came out and silly billy came out a month or 2 later.
uh no
Sturm wouldn’t credit Honkish for Subterfuge’s motif if that was the case.
Subterfuge, like the actual fnf song subterfuge was made before the version gurgney created, the beat you recognize as “silly Billy” ‘s originally comes from an fnf mod not actually related to churgney.
i think what he meant by "whats the point, in playing make-believe?" is that he thinks tails is making up that he isnt sonic, cause, of course, he directly believes he IS sonic
Also the fact that he says "SEE, MY BUDDY! ITS ONLY ME!" meanwhile he turns into his "broken" form is horrifying.
some things I'd like to point out
1:49, x's power traits are still viewable in him, esspecially his true form. But becaues of his obsession with being sonic, he's limited to only knowing what sonic can do and not what he can do. This is also why he has a true form, it's his proclein skin cracking open what's inside of his shell
5:44 yes, it was infact Subterfuge then Silly billy then Subterfuge with lyrics
6:12, he's so delusional in his beliefs that he thinks he's right and anyone who defys him are merely the broken ones and he can fix, which is why tails is being called the Naive one.
7:49 correct, his only weakness is mental strengh and not physical, he can't be logically killed in a fight due to him still inhebiditing x's powers (unless he's fighting a foe that matches his powers like for example lord x or exe/faker) but even then it's merely hard to break through his mind
Hopefully this is useful enough to explain
bro is THE subterfuge expert
Imagine an interaction with 2017x and something about tails…
Honestly would be really interesting!
Oh boy that would go 1 of 2 ways
Path 1: tails freaks out and set’s 2017x off, likely causing their deaths
Path 2: tails amy and knuckles all accept him as an actual sonic version + he joins the team
@@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te probably path 1 unless he noticed this in advance
@@logangoodwin451 yeah probably
@@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te Depends if tails is picky of who he considers his best friend, also he might kill knuckles and amy
why is sonic telling me stuff about "sonic"
(surprisingly you actually sound like sonic in some parts while talking, i found it funny 😭)
"SONIC is tails best friend!"
*MASHED flashbacks*
5:16 how was that sync so perfect
As a autistic kid
2017x is literally breaking my mind. Is that there's other ones like mario or the black and white sonic figure holding the ring and play subterfuge
The design itself is so simple and the way he smile makes me laugh every time
Especially in roblox
And I love this one video
"YOU DROP YOUR WALLET"
"HEY MISS YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET"
@@matheuspires2462 GET BACK HERE!!
someone help me!!!!
1:42 just a little correction on this statement.
Sonic.exe's backstory since his inception by jc has always been that he was a creature born from the void, 2011X, Lord X, "Sonic" etc are all just using that lore as a base for the characters
Yes, it was passed down. It used to be called eye to an eye in the original first sonic.EX mod but silly Billy and subterfuge went their separate ways. And yeah, they became their own songs. 5:58
i have finally found my people, im gonna cry
4:44: these are my favorite lyrics in the song.
Sonic 2017 or pale hedgehog is in his désillusion of him thinking he’s the actual sonic the hedgehog and everybody that disagree with him is the problem so if you play along in his désillusion he more chill but that doesn’t mean is not violent
so 2017x is a entity that think that he is sonic that also will have a breakdown if he sees sonic and is appalled that tails does not recognise him
Lowkey, you sound like Sonic, which had me more intrigued in the video
FINALLY
SUBTERFUGE CONTENT
Love 2017x. I will say his game isn't necessarily Sonic 06 but has some elements to it 😂. On another note I am pretty sure "tails" isn't even tails to begin with either just someone 2017x saw playing his game and said, "Yes, you are tails, my best friend." Man I can't wait for his and Xenophanes stories to be complete. They are my top 2 favorites personally.
Yeah, just read a bit on the wiki and saw 06 and I’m like “why-“ I mean? I liked the sonic portions in the game! But that game is- an experience to say the least
Honestly him being that delusional makes sense!
Can’t wait to hear the rest of it, sonic legacy is gonna be peak too!!
@@Duncachi True Legacy is gonna live up to the name.
@Duncachi random suggestion but you should play phantasm encore it's amazing
Currently I am xenophanes biggest hater after the events of too slow, you cant run, and triple trouble. The fact that he lost bf and even crashed out over it so bad he transformed like a super sayain just for his slaves to be set free and for him to loose pisses me off. So like you I cant wait for his story to complete, and I cant wait to see what sonic legacy does with him.
@v0rbxv244 Technically, that was not actually Xenophanes. It was stated by Raven that it was more of a representation of Sonic.exe as a whole and a thing of showing how Sonic.exe has changed over the years. She also strictly said that it was more of Rightburst's creation than Shei's. Sadly, he won't have any representation in Legacy due to Shei not wanting to be associated with fnf anymore after all the drama that happened in vs sonic.exe.
How I make it simpler for me is that Allfather is the first exe. 2011x was his first transformation and "child" and so on and so forth with 2017x to scrimbo to omt to xenophanes. For Lord X, I think of him as a separate being from the all father, hence how they made Exe or faker. and for other exes that dont fall in line with allfather (requital, fatal error, etc.) their stories explains how they came to be. I know this isnt canon since allfather isnt canon, but its the simpliest way I can make it for myself
2017x sees sonic and comedically explodes
Original subterfuge by Honkish was made first, then silly billy was made, then Subterfuge with lyrics was made. Hope this helps.
Silly Billy was made AFTER Subterfuge, Subterfuge was firy
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I said subterfuge was made first,
Then silly Billy was made
Then subterfuge with lyrics was made last.
That’s the order of how they were produced. Silly Billy was publicly released after subterfuge with lyrics was due to production of hit single taking longer.
I hope was more clear this time.
*song starts* "%*@#&%)(*@" ... "that line is honestly SOO fire" brother what 😭🙏
Bro even said “I don’t know what it is”😭😭😭
blawg how can you NOT hear what he's saying
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet you *are* joking right?
@kmidu4137 *YOU'RE* kidding, correct?
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet nah nah nah *YOU* are making a joke, yes?
Bro is the definition of "bro though hes sonic"😭🙏
I would love to see some insane version of this guy fighting off a different .exe.
Like, imagine he somehow winds up in Lord Xs realm, sees him attacking tails for the umptillionth time, and decides "I gotta save him!" And getting into an insane battle.
6:10 I think what 2017x is tryna say is that it would be so pointless to try to trick tails, and why to believe that he is the real sonic.
“Cold, So Cold” 🗣️🔥
“Truth be told” 🗣️ 🔥
One thing you missed that was pointed out to me by a friend of mine is that in the final verse, "silver" in "NOW I SEE THE SILVER LINING" has been marked with a different font. This is most likely in reference to Silver the Hedgehog, one of the characters in 2006, but also possibly one of the victims of 2017X.
I mean I love 2017x but I love both of the Rewrites there really cool to me but this a really great video .
I made an entity named Trinity, don't think it'd be considered an EXE.
I think 2017 is so interesting to a lot of people is because he falls under the idea of ‘the guy who just wants people to see him the way he sees himself’ that a lot of people love, kind of like that PS1 guy from Smiling Friends
Also unrelated, I like to think that EXE (or Faker) see each other as brothers (coming from the same creator- Lord X- and everything)
EXE is more mentally put together, he’s just really angry and hates almost everything, but he has a soft spot for his mentally ill older brother (as 2017x canonically came first before EXE)
An angel fallen amidst heaven, An god who wanted to play hero, now he will die like one (from delusions of grandeur)
Subterfuge mod came out before silly billy but the lyrics from Subterfuge did not the mod did but the lyrics after silly billy
I do like him, but there is one thing that I kind of have a problem with, and that is that his design is just kind of a nothing burger. Which could’ve been fine, I do like minimalistic designs, but 2017 kinda feels minimalistic in the wrong way. Not sure what it is, but he kinda just looks like a beta design for Werehog Sonic.
Mashed tails and 2017x would probably be besties
Video title : 2017X is the most unique sonic exe (I can't accept that people consider the name of the game and the stories about 2011X to be his name).
Meanwhile exetior, sonic OMT, all father, lord mortis and other :
👏🗿🗿🗿🗿
OMT and The All Father are literally retakes that don't really change anything
OMT is like "OooOOOooOOo I'm sonic.exe but with shapeshifting powers and apparently i'm supposed to be the og exe but i'm actually not so that's pretty confusing"
The all father is more like "I'm sonic.exe and the only thing that's different about me is the fact that i am the """father""" of all the exes, exes that are not even the original ones but retakes on them so the original owners don't get mad at me"
I don't have any beef with exetior, he's fine
Actually i don't have beef with any exe but yeahhh i gotta admit they are not that unique
@@AweAtWork Sonic OMT in his canon prevented the birth of 2011Х literally .
and the allfather is an alternative version of 2011X, which is unique in its own way, given that Lord x is the only one who is an offshoot of the canon, all the other "exe" are imitators of OG X..
All father is very unique along side Lord Mortis! but ehh..omt not really, his ok but not spectacular besides the pixel art. and dude dont put EXETIOR WITH THEM HIS GENUINELY A PIECE OF CARDBOARD
It's honestly pathetic how OMT is so ignored given how good his games actually are. I get people are sick of 2011 Sonic.exe's story being retold but you can't just sit here and act like OMT doesn't have more to him on his end. Not to mention his game is pretty damn unique compared to the others. But it is what it is.
2017 X isn’t the name of any game though?
I know it’s been 2 years but sonic eyx is still staying as in the top 3 of best sonic exes
Thank god for explaining i was like who is this exe anyways just a weird hedgehog again thanks 👍🌟
I think the you die with me was the line that four from bfb says in his song
I would have died laughing if this video was 20 minutes and 17 seconds long
For some reason i used to think 2017x's game he possessed was sonic06
LORD X: X WHAT IS GOOD MY BROTHERIN
X: AEEEEE MY BROTHERIN
2017 is literally the reboot of the exe by JC back in 2017
you forgot to say for mortis that he is a 2011 that was gonna tred the path of the Lord X but got his powers taken away from him and left to grow with the victims that he tortured
also Don't know if you know this but Mortis is a Cannon Timeline to Lord X contanuity
Also Raven on Twitter actually broke the song down with additional info on Twitter
Hey look duncachi is talking about me
Sooo, 2017x has dysmorphia towards sonic the hedgehog, neat
Sonic the hedgehog: HEY WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING FAKER?
2017 X: Uhhh (FUCKING DIES)
SO FOLLOW ME INTO THE SEARING HEAT
BREAK THE SILENCE, UNDERNEATH THE SHEET
KNOW I'VE SET IN STONE, THE ORDER
PEPPERED ENVY, PAIN AND HORROR 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️💯💯
2017x? Come on guys, that just Sonic
subterfuge came out in around march, hitsingle came out around april from what ive found.
personally, i find the fact 2017 is just 2011 if he were even more obsessed with sonic rather funny.
it means 2011 has two “future” variants. lord x, which seems the most likely, or 2017 if he just descends further into insanity.
There's the third, lord mortis, an alternate lord x classed as canon where x gets usurped by bandado, and thrown into fire, becoming more of an anti-hero
I assume he was usurped due to lack of guardians
So it's either
X forgets himself and falks further into his obsession
X continues to master his capabilities and makes only a singular mistake in that making life of his own (EXE)
Or
No healthcare so womp womp for x
2017 X is an entirely separate canon from 2011. He isn’t even called X, just “Sonic”.
Cold, so cold..
2017x: I AM SONIC I AM SONIC I AM I AM SONIC
bro when I found out about 2017x I was like: HOLY MOLY DIS MAN IS BEAUTIFUL IM GONNA MAKE HIM MY OC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINALY SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE SAME opinion!
Basically, If you want to surivive 2017
Just say he's sonic and don't doubt him at all...
Might be late but yes 2017 had the melody first
Cold... So Cold...
what if 2017x met tails secret histories? Wouldnt they get along real well since in the og vid he was looking for the real sonic who is tail's best friend.
edit:If was is
I hope someone makes a 2017X game in the style of 06
I wonder who's the other Titans in the void
I'm guessing that Lord x in this version of Sonic and since they're both from the same dimension I'm guessing they're Brothers in some way
cold
MY fav will forever be NMI
Cold, so cold
I don’t mean to brag, but I can strike the 2017 x pose perfectly
I swear I meet a kid like back in the day lol
All 2017x stuff aside, why does this guy sound like sonic?
god i love sonic
Me too, I think I should be like him…
I should BE HIM
@@Duncachi oh..... that's duncachi.exe.........
@@Duncachi
Hey!
*Squirts Water bottle*
No!
Could you talk about allfather?
Nevermind...
2017x is just tough
2017x is like mfs when they become attached to a character and develop their entire personality (I’m mfs)
BRO, what would happen if 2017x met Secret History Tails?!
It basically just Goku black but insecure