Why 2017X Is The Most Unique Sonic.EXE - Subterfuge lyrics Explained

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  • @cool_guy_1.e4071
    @cool_guy_1.e4071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +416

    Sonic the hedgehog: hey you you kinda look like me
    2017 X:"mental breakdown noises"

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      *there can be only one of us*

    • @khenanaqlan6909
      @khenanaqlan6909 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There is only one Sonic...

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@khenanaqlan6909 "this town ain't big enough for 2 of us"

    • @logangoodwin451
      @logangoodwin451 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "WHY ARE YOU ME" 2017 x

    • @owenmyers6710
      @owenmyers6710 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lore wise he killed tails when he was talking about sonic and he x isnt sonic

  • @ariel2179
    @ariel2179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +453

    The fact that 2017x chose the 06 era will never not be funny

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      He got weird game taste
      I feel like he just chose it to replace sonic in the Elise kiss scene

    • @ariel2179
      @ariel2179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@matheuspires2462 LMFAO

    • @toastedprocastinator
      @toastedprocastinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      ​@@matheuspires2462
      2017X a FREAK. 🔥👅🔥

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@toastedprocastinator no wonder he turned into a freaky meme

    • @heitorsant1759
      @heitorsant1759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      ​​@@matheuspires2462"HEY!!! HEY MISS!!!! YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET MISS!!!! GET BACK HERE!!!! IT'S ME SONIC T. HEDGEHOG!!!!"

  • @brandonboswell3625
    @brandonboswell3625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +544

    2017x is low key one of my favorites, like hes just an extreme sonic fanboy while still being a sadistic entity

    • @СемёнЮгов-в7ю
      @СемёнЮгов-в7ю 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      He is a sonic LARPer

    • @VicoX-u9m
      @VicoX-u9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      This description also applies to 2011x and Lord X, btw.

    • @Tokomori56
      @Tokomori56 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      He's not a fanboy, hes delusional kinda. He thinks he's sonic.

    • @Tokomori56
      @Tokomori56 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@VicoX-u9mit mostly applies to X in general

    • @VicoX-u9m
      @VicoX-u9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@Tokomori56 knew it.
      So to make everyone in complete agreement.
      Xenophanes is the one who chose Sonic because he was popular;
      X and Lord X are the fanboys;
      “Sonic” is the delusional maniac that thinks he’s Sonic and will kill you if you tell him otherwise;
      EXE/Faker, Bandado and Sally_ALT are the haters of the fanboys.
      Did I get that right?

  • @thecrimsonwooter
    @thecrimsonwooter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +299

    Oh btw just to let you know 2017X’s Lyrics in the Subterfuge song, Near the end he says
    “Death defying, Redefining, Now i see the SILVER lining.”
    Which is a direct reference to the 2017X story where one of his main victims becomes Silver The Hedgehog.
    Aswell as the rest of the song’s lyrics talk about how 2017X feels on tails Shunning him and refusing that he is sonic. Its a extremely deep sonic the more you look into the lyrics and meaning. Sturm is a GENIUS

    • @dylan85guy
      @dylan85guy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      raven wrote the lyrics

    • @Agent-John
      @Agent-John หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *Raven is a GENIUS.

    • @thecrimsonwooter
      @thecrimsonwooter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Agent-John Oh yeah my bad

  • @FutileStruggleofaBoulder
    @FutileStruggleofaBoulder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Its fun to think that 2017x left the void because EXE and Lord X kept trying to tell him in a therapy like manner that he isnt the real sonic and 2017x just having a mental breakdown before he just decides to leave entirely

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@FutileStruggleofaBoulder imagine the exes make a intervention in a therapy circle to convince him he's not Sonic

    • @FutileStruggleofaBoulder
      @FutileStruggleofaBoulder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@matheuspires2462 And Lord X would try to explain to him that theres a difference in "Liking Sonic" and "deluding yourself into thinking you ARE sonic"

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@FutileStruggleofaBoulder yeah

    • @yeetman2610gaming
      @yeetman2610gaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      2011 is lord x

    • @KelOmorireal-g1j
      @KelOmorireal-g1j หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s the only thing I could make out when I watched this in Russian I watched ten minutes of fucking sonic in russian

  • @sboy2044
    @sboy2044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    2017 X’s owner, Raven, made a thread explaining all of the lyrics in Subterfuge. It’s linked in the trivia section of the wiki page

  • @TheKriegsmen
    @TheKriegsmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I am a huge fan of 2017X for a lot of the reasons you listed. But my favorite parts about him such as his Story and Personality, is his interaction with other Sonic Characters. There is a surprising lot of so no s where he facing more then the main cast.

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Oh yeah! Might do a follow up on the interactions 2017X has with the cast, I’ve heard about the relationship between him and Amy and it’s kinda adorable ngl

    • @TheKriegsmen
      @TheKriegsmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Duncachi Well from only what I know about here on TH-cam, ( really haven’t done much Googling on 2017X’s interactions) there are Two songs that I know of where he deals with characters. The first is called “Petrified” and it’s where poor cream happens to stumble upon ‘Sonic’. The other one is called “Tremor” where it see’s Silver pit up against him. Know I would like to remind these are fan made songs about 2017X that aren’t A part of Legacy, but I think they still fit his character well even if they don’t have much of a story.

    • @TheKriegsmen
      @TheKriegsmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh and I almost forgot, I wanted to leave some recommendations on other sonics. The ones you might get a kick out of are Faker, (If you like Lord X a bunch, he did make this guy) Hog, (Think of this guy a new take on Faker, yet still different) and All Father, (This one apparently claims to be the Father of all EXE’s, I found him interesting.)
      I love watching BF your content man, like a breathe of fresh air to me. Keep doing what you love!

  • @soufianegamerpro
    @soufianegamerpro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    2017X is basically the most delusional exe of all time and it works for him, like if he meets the real sonic he won't just be like: NO I AM THE REAL SONIC, but he'll have a mental breakdown since he knows inside that he is not the real sonic, he is basically like what people think when they hear a sonic fan

  • @gamer-IRIS36
    @gamer-IRIS36 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    2017x is so well done he's making his way as a meme in the normal Sonic fandom

    • @gamer-IRIS36
      @gamer-IRIS36 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      also a future EXE game is going to feature him as a playable killer (Outcome Memories)

    • @TETANUS.
      @TETANUS. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He became the symbol of freakiness in the exe community off of one GIF

  • @serafinjuncamposano3231
    @serafinjuncamposano3231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Why 2017X is the most unique Sonic.EXE
    “Is it because he’s naked?”

    • @Davidsevasti
      @Davidsevasti 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      he Just doesnt Has Shoes. EVERY SONIC IS NAKED-

    • @Glacial_floofs
      @Glacial_floofs 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@Davidsevasti no gloves either

    • @seeicouldneverdothat
      @seeicouldneverdothat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Davidsevasti i feel like having shoes means your feet aren't naked... so you aren't COMPLETELY naked

    • @J.V.Aandothers
      @J.V.Aandothers 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s kinda the reason I don’t really like him, there’s nothing wrong with the character, but if he puts some shoes then there wouldn’t be an issue

  • @I_LoveRetroStuff
    @I_LoveRetroStuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    0:22 dude looks majestic

  • @spider-soniczilla2989
    @spider-soniczilla2989 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Honestly I could see 2017X with some tweaks being introduced as a new Sonic villan.
    Like a new powerful and ancient entity becomes obsessed with Sonic, captures his friends and trys to replace the real Sonic, has a breakdown and trys to kill everyone when Sonic finds them? Yeah that sounds like something Sonic would face.

  • @liammogus6483
    @liammogus6483 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    In my opinion, the line,
    “I’ll make you play along in time with me” sounds like 2017x is telling tails
    That he may hit believe he’s Sonic now, but 2017x will force him to believe he’s Sonic through force.
    He will make tails play along with him in time.

    • @coolioman9073
      @coolioman9073 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Sonic through force"

    • @AlbertsStuffParody
      @AlbertsStuffParody หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@coolioman9073sonic force
      WAIT NO
      NO
      NO

    • @stardan0862
      @stardan0862 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@AlbertsStuffParody*YOURE GOING BACK TO SONIC FORCES LITTLE BOY* 😈

    • @spider-soniczilla2989
      @spider-soniczilla2989 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@stardan0862
      Michael, don't leave me here....MICHAEL!!!!

    • @deviledonions
      @deviledonions 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@coolioman9073”Sonic… this whole 2017x situation is terrible. It’s like HE always has the master plan. Sonic, we’re going to have join forces.”

  • @Ey-1w
    @Ey-1w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    2017x is when there is a character in a game/show that you like so much you base your personality entirely off of it

  • @agentthree82
    @agentthree82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    Surprised you didn’t cover the fact that “Sonic” will brainwash the victims he comes into contact with to play the roles of their respective character.

    • @logangoodwin451
      @logangoodwin451 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where are you getting all this lore

    • @agentthree82
      @agentthree82 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@logangoodwin451 From the wiki of course

    • @logangoodwin451
      @logangoodwin451 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentthree82 ah ok

  • @mariothehedgehoggaming5306
    @mariothehedgehoggaming5306 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Imma be real,I see 2017 X being in an official sonic game,his a rare one without blood,i think his lore is still a wip but we still got enough of him to learn the character,and whats funny,is that he made it outside the exe and sonic fandom, which is funny as hell in my opinion,not even rewrite had that treatment lol

    • @funmuuh
      @funmuuh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Give him shoes and gloves and a different back story and it would prob work

  • @bruh-bm9jr
    @bruh-bm9jr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    5:16 DON'T YOU GET IT!? SONIC'S BEST FRIEND IS TAILS! ME!!!

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@bruh-bm9jr mashed tails fr
      That’s an interesting interaction
      Tails is obsessed with sonic
      Sonic is obsessed with sonic 🤔

    • @bruh-bm9jr
      @bruh-bm9jr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Duncachi wait bro you actually got a point there, we have to see that interaction 😭

    • @addictedperson
      @addictedperson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bruh-bm9jrsomeone drew that interaction and its just “Sonic” saying “This guy is NOT my friend.”

    • @GoDofthegrapes
      @GoDofthegrapes หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got theory
      What if SH/mashed tails is “Sonic’s” tails they have lots of similarities

  • @dakotaelectro180
    @dakotaelectro180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    from what i remember being stated, tails is once again not tails. a lot of these exe universes opt for human souls being trapped in the sonic characters bodies like how tails in 2011x universe is a person named Alan (a lot of this is lost when playing or watching anything with them due to the player tails' not having a unique design to them. this is only told to you when you look them up on the exe wiki & following their twitter (or in alan's case looking at the players name at the hide and seek section of the game)
    but from what i remember was stated, 2017x believes his friends are trapped in the players bodies like badniks and takes the human's soul and forces them into the character.
    It's theorized the human that is trapped in tails' body is named tom due to 2017x making references to certain lines from the original CJ story but nothing is confirmed yet of the player tails' name.
    but why 2017x is mad is because tails who is a human isn't playing their part as the character and is constantly reminding 2017x that he isn't sonic and they aren't tails witch is breaking 2017x's delusions and causes him to see the player as the problem.
    now reminder this is only what i remember, Not all of it is fact and i could be misremembering things from old tweets.

    • @sboy2044
      @sboy2044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The wiki says the current iteration is nearly the same as the original reboot by JC (idk how the cult would work though), and the line “Now I the SILVER lining”, with silver being in a different font in the lyrics video, implies that Tom still becomes Silver in the current version of the story

    • @Switchingfandomsatligthspeed50
      @Switchingfandomsatligthspeed50 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He gets angry at tails for not roleplaying
      Funniest shit ever

  • @LIGHTITUP4EVER
    @LIGHTITUP4EVER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    2017x will literally never get old for me. He is one of my personal favorites, and even though a few come close, I think he is the most goofy and cool.

  • @ToadetteTails6969
    @ToadetteTails6969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Fun fact: There are actually *3* leitmotifs in Subterfuge. There's Silly Billy, which is quite an obvious motif, as it's front and center. Tails, near the end sings "His World." In retaliation, however, 2017 X sings "Fatality" (Fatal Error's song in Sonic.EXE 3.0). Tails singing His World might be him referencing what the REAL Sonic would do to his friends. 2017 X singing Fatality in response to Tails' His World motif is literally X saying Tails made a fatal error in thinking he's not Sonic.

    • @SpectacularStuuu
      @SpectacularStuuu 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      more like silly billy has a subterfuge motif since subterfuge came first

    • @DustedDustSans
      @DustedDustSans 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SpectacularStuuureal

  • @ịaM_G0d-037
    @ịaM_G0d-037 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sonic T. Hedgehog: "hey-"
    2017x: *family guy death pose*

  • @saucequest31
    @saucequest31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    2017X IS MY FAV EXE!!! So glad you talked abt him!

  • @hysterical5408
    @hysterical5408 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've said this on a different video but I'll say it here as well
    I think a cool way of making an EXE unique is to not make the EXE a supernatural entity, but instead from some psychotic kid's imagination. Imagine playing an EXE game where you're a father trying to connect with your son, who likes making sonic romhacks. So you play one of them, only to discover your son's using the romhacks to play out his violent fantasies. Characters are renamed to people you know the Son doesn't like, a school bully, a former friend... and then you. At the end you find out your son is using the romhack to plan out something he wants to do in real life.

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This concept is pretty interesting! I think there’s a lot of freedom and ideas people can utilize, and I hope to see more unique exes in future sonic or not!

  • @thegoldenmario-eq3kl
    @thegoldenmario-eq3kl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Its cool to see how passionated and his enthusiasm in all da video, its very cool, thanks for presenting me Sonic the hedgehog lol

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Expect plenty more to come!
      Glad you enjoyed it, I have a lot of fun with these videos!

  • @rodentOfficial
    @rodentOfficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    2017X was always my favorite his story and lore was always so unique.

  • @FreddFrost_Boy094
    @FreddFrost_Boy094 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Fun Fact: 2017X is so obsessed with Sonic the Hedgehog that it surpasses X's level of obsession.

  • @m3gapixel878
    @m3gapixel878 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    From what I know...
    The Silly Billy part was always meant to be from Silly Billy, and it was such a banger combo of music that Subertufuge borrowed it. However, Subterfuge was finished earlier, and so it also released earlier, but the "Silly Billy" part is from Silly Billy.

    • @Scphotsause
      @Scphotsause 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      no it came from subterfuge sillybilly borrowed it from subterfuge

    • @shrubbzoffical
      @shrubbzoffical 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Subterfuge was made and released before Silly Billy, and sturm made lyrics for it. He liked the lyrics in one part so he added it to silly billy. Then Subterfuge with lyrics came out and silly billy came out a month or 2 later.

    • @PKR_92
      @PKR_92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      uh no

    • @Agent-John
      @Agent-John หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sturm wouldn’t credit Honkish for Subterfuge’s motif if that was the case.

    • @ascrinkleyfellow
      @ascrinkleyfellow หลายเดือนก่อน

      Subterfuge, like the actual fnf song subterfuge was made before the version gurgney created, the beat you recognize as “silly Billy” ‘s originally comes from an fnf mod not actually related to churgney.

  • @GogurtSatoru-u5d
    @GogurtSatoru-u5d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    i think what he meant by "whats the point, in playing make-believe?" is that he thinks tails is making up that he isnt sonic, cause, of course, he directly believes he IS sonic

  • @willatom
    @willatom 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also the fact that he says "SEE, MY BUDDY! ITS ONLY ME!" meanwhile he turns into his "broken" form is horrifying.

  • @stonesteves
    @stonesteves 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    some things I'd like to point out
    1:49, x's power traits are still viewable in him, esspecially his true form. But becaues of his obsession with being sonic, he's limited to only knowing what sonic can do and not what he can do. This is also why he has a true form, it's his proclein skin cracking open what's inside of his shell
    5:44 yes, it was infact Subterfuge then Silly billy then Subterfuge with lyrics
    6:12, he's so delusional in his beliefs that he thinks he's right and anyone who defys him are merely the broken ones and he can fix, which is why tails is being called the Naive one.
    7:49 correct, his only weakness is mental strengh and not physical, he can't be logically killed in a fight due to him still inhebiditing x's powers (unless he's fighting a foe that matches his powers like for example lord x or exe/faker) but even then it's merely hard to break through his mind
    Hopefully this is useful enough to explain

  • @Akai-Mushii
    @Akai-Mushii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    bro is THE subterfuge expert

  • @Alter106
    @Alter106 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Imagine an interaction with 2017x and something about tails…

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Honestly would be really interesting!

    • @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te
      @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Oh boy that would go 1 of 2 ways
      Path 1: tails freaks out and set’s 2017x off, likely causing their deaths
      Path 2: tails amy and knuckles all accept him as an actual sonic version + he joins the team

    • @logangoodwin451
      @logangoodwin451 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te probably path 1 unless he noticed this in advance

    • @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te
      @dubstepsoundwave-yo8te หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@logangoodwin451 yeah probably

    • @lorddumb21
      @lorddumb21 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te Depends if tails is picky of who he considers his best friend, also he might kill knuckles and amy

  • @lavajr
    @lavajr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    why is sonic telling me stuff about "sonic"
    (surprisingly you actually sound like sonic in some parts while talking, i found it funny 😭)

  • @JesterSpace85
    @JesterSpace85 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "SONIC is tails best friend!"
    *MASHED flashbacks*

  • @ScorchingStoleYourToast
    @ScorchingStoleYourToast 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:16 how was that sync so perfect

  • @CarlosDaRyza
    @CarlosDaRyza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As a autistic kid
    2017x is literally breaking my mind. Is that there's other ones like mario or the black and white sonic figure holding the ring and play subterfuge
    The design itself is so simple and the way he smile makes me laugh every time
    Especially in roblox
    And I love this one video
    "YOU DROP YOUR WALLET"

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "HEY MISS YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET"

    • @CarlosDaRyza
      @CarlosDaRyza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@matheuspires2462 GET BACK HERE!!

    • @SpectacularStuuu
      @SpectacularStuuu 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      someone help me!!!!

  • @Thejayone962
    @Thejayone962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:42 just a little correction on this statement.
    Sonic.exe's backstory since his inception by jc has always been that he was a creature born from the void, 2011X, Lord X, "Sonic" etc are all just using that lore as a base for the characters

  • @goldenfoxy1682
    @goldenfoxy1682 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, it was passed down. It used to be called eye to an eye in the original first sonic.EX mod but silly Billy and subterfuge went their separate ways. And yeah, they became their own songs. 5:58

  • @HARDBRISK
    @HARDBRISK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i have finally found my people, im gonna cry

  • @michaellennerman7844
    @michaellennerman7844 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:44: these are my favorite lyrics in the song.

  • @TherealGoku-real
    @TherealGoku-real 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Sonic 2017 or pale hedgehog is in his désillusion of him thinking he’s the actual sonic the hedgehog and everybody that disagree with him is the problem so if you play along in his désillusion he more chill but that doesn’t mean is not violent

  • @RogerVers1
    @RogerVers1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    so 2017x is a entity that think that he is sonic that also will have a breakdown if he sees sonic and is appalled that tails does not recognise him

  • @Indo-raptor
    @Indo-raptor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lowkey, you sound like Sonic, which had me more intrigued in the video

  • @ascrinkleyfellow
    @ascrinkleyfellow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FINALLY
    SUBTERFUGE CONTENT

  • @madnessdarkness5818
    @madnessdarkness5818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Love 2017x. I will say his game isn't necessarily Sonic 06 but has some elements to it 😂. On another note I am pretty sure "tails" isn't even tails to begin with either just someone 2017x saw playing his game and said, "Yes, you are tails, my best friend." Man I can't wait for his and Xenophanes stories to be complete. They are my top 2 favorites personally.

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, just read a bit on the wiki and saw 06 and I’m like “why-“ I mean? I liked the sonic portions in the game! But that game is- an experience to say the least
      Honestly him being that delusional makes sense!
      Can’t wait to hear the rest of it, sonic legacy is gonna be peak too!!

    • @madnessdarkness5818
      @madnessdarkness5818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Duncachi True Legacy is gonna live up to the name.

    • @madnessdarkness5818
      @madnessdarkness5818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Duncachi random suggestion but you should play phantasm encore it's amazing

    • @v0rbxv244
      @v0rbxv244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently I am xenophanes biggest hater after the events of too slow, you cant run, and triple trouble. The fact that he lost bf and even crashed out over it so bad he transformed like a super sayain just for his slaves to be set free and for him to loose pisses me off. So like you I cant wait for his story to complete, and I cant wait to see what sonic legacy does with him.

    • @madnessdarkness5818
      @madnessdarkness5818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @v0rbxv244 Technically, that was not actually Xenophanes. It was stated by Raven that it was more of a representation of Sonic.exe as a whole and a thing of showing how Sonic.exe has changed over the years. She also strictly said that it was more of Rightburst's creation than Shei's. Sadly, he won't have any representation in Legacy due to Shei not wanting to be associated with fnf anymore after all the drama that happened in vs sonic.exe.

  • @v0rbxv244
    @v0rbxv244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How I make it simpler for me is that Allfather is the first exe. 2011x was his first transformation and "child" and so on and so forth with 2017x to scrimbo to omt to xenophanes. For Lord X, I think of him as a separate being from the all father, hence how they made Exe or faker. and for other exes that dont fall in line with allfather (requital, fatal error, etc.) their stories explains how they came to be. I know this isnt canon since allfather isnt canon, but its the simpliest way I can make it for myself

  • @purpleoctoling6929
    @purpleoctoling6929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2017x sees sonic and comedically explodes

  • @turtwigproductions9928
    @turtwigproductions9928 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Original subterfuge by Honkish was made first, then silly billy was made, then Subterfuge with lyrics was made. Hope this helps.

    • @SpookerScaryGhosty
      @SpookerScaryGhosty หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silly Billy was made AFTER Subterfuge, Subterfuge was firy

    • @turtwigproductions9928
      @turtwigproductions9928 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @
      ?
      I said subterfuge was made first,
      Then silly Billy was made
      Then subterfuge with lyrics was made last.
      That’s the order of how they were produced. Silly Billy was publicly released after subterfuge with lyrics was due to production of hit single taking longer.
      I hope was more clear this time.

  • @kmidu4137
    @kmidu4137 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    *song starts* "%*@#&%)(*@" ... "that line is honestly SOO fire" brother what 😭🙏

    • @milo-kz1pi
      @milo-kz1pi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro even said “I don’t know what it is”😭😭😭

    • @wholetthisguyontheinternet
      @wholetthisguyontheinternet 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      blawg how can you NOT hear what he's saying

    • @kmidu4137
      @kmidu4137 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wholetthisguyontheinternet you *are* joking right?

    • @wholetthisguyontheinternet
      @wholetthisguyontheinternet 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @kmidu4137 *YOU'RE* kidding, correct?

    • @kmidu4137
      @kmidu4137 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wholetthisguyontheinternet nah nah nah *YOU* are making a joke, yes?

  • @HotdogBro12
    @HotdogBro12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro is the definition of "bro though hes sonic"😭🙏

  • @cherrypopscile3385
    @cherrypopscile3385 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see some insane version of this guy fighting off a different .exe.
    Like, imagine he somehow winds up in Lord Xs realm, sees him attacking tails for the umptillionth time, and decides "I gotta save him!" And getting into an insane battle.

  • @ParisSmith-sl2ct
    @ParisSmith-sl2ct 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    6:10 I think what 2017x is tryna say is that it would be so pointless to try to trick tails, and why to believe that he is the real sonic.

  • @Mekko4dev
    @Mekko4dev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Cold, So Cold” 🗣️🔥

    • @Cuboid-Menace
      @Cuboid-Menace หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Truth be told” 🗣️ 🔥

  • @t0nyxaka90
    @t0nyxaka90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing you missed that was pointed out to me by a friend of mine is that in the final verse, "silver" in "NOW I SEE THE SILVER LINING" has been marked with a different font. This is most likely in reference to Silver the Hedgehog, one of the characters in 2006, but also possibly one of the victims of 2017X.

  • @tymunhe4524
    @tymunhe4524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean I love 2017x but I love both of the Rewrites there really cool to me but this a really great video .

  • @lochlanbell1266
    @lochlanbell1266 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I made an entity named Trinity, don't think it'd be considered an EXE.

  • @InkyBoiArts
    @InkyBoiArts หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think 2017 is so interesting to a lot of people is because he falls under the idea of ‘the guy who just wants people to see him the way he sees himself’ that a lot of people love, kind of like that PS1 guy from Smiling Friends
    Also unrelated, I like to think that EXE (or Faker) see each other as brothers (coming from the same creator- Lord X- and everything)
    EXE is more mentally put together, he’s just really angry and hates almost everything, but he has a soft spot for his mentally ill older brother (as 2017x canonically came first before EXE)

  • @Maximus2629
    @Maximus2629 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An angel fallen amidst heaven, An god who wanted to play hero, now he will die like one (from delusions of grandeur)

  • @Calebgamble
    @Calebgamble หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Subterfuge mod came out before silly billy but the lyrics from Subterfuge did not the mod did but the lyrics after silly billy

  • @exalpergames90
    @exalpergames90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I do like him, but there is one thing that I kind of have a problem with, and that is that his design is just kind of a nothing burger. Which could’ve been fine, I do like minimalistic designs, but 2017 kinda feels minimalistic in the wrong way. Not sure what it is, but he kinda just looks like a beta design for Werehog Sonic.

  • @CaffeineQuestion
    @CaffeineQuestion หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mashed tails and 2017x would probably be besties

  • @Nightmare-jo3mz
    @Nightmare-jo3mz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Video title : 2017X is the most unique sonic exe (I can't accept that people consider the name of the game and the stories about 2011X to be his name).
    Meanwhile exetior, sonic OMT, all father, lord mortis and other :
    👏🗿🗿🗿🗿

    • @AweAtWork
      @AweAtWork 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OMT and The All Father are literally retakes that don't really change anything
      OMT is like "OooOOOooOOo I'm sonic.exe but with shapeshifting powers and apparently i'm supposed to be the og exe but i'm actually not so that's pretty confusing"
      The all father is more like "I'm sonic.exe and the only thing that's different about me is the fact that i am the """father""" of all the exes, exes that are not even the original ones but retakes on them so the original owners don't get mad at me"
      I don't have any beef with exetior, he's fine
      Actually i don't have beef with any exe but yeahhh i gotta admit they are not that unique

    • @Nightmare-jo3mz
      @Nightmare-jo3mz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AweAtWork Sonic OMT in his canon prevented the birth of 2011Х literally .
      and the allfather is an alternative version of 2011X, which is unique in its own way, given that Lord x is the only one who is an offshoot of the canon, all the other "exe" are imitators of OG X..

    • @QuiteFunnyIsnt1t
      @QuiteFunnyIsnt1t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All father is very unique along side Lord Mortis! but ehh..omt not really, his ok but not spectacular besides the pixel art. and dude dont put EXETIOR WITH THEM HIS GENUINELY A PIECE OF CARDBOARD

    • @windows98alpha35
      @windows98alpha35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's honestly pathetic how OMT is so ignored given how good his games actually are. I get people are sick of 2011 Sonic.exe's story being retold but you can't just sit here and act like OMT doesn't have more to him on his end. Not to mention his game is pretty damn unique compared to the others. But it is what it is.

    • @sboy2044
      @sboy2044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2017 X isn’t the name of any game though?

  • @Billyknights_official
    @Billyknights_official หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it’s been 2 years but sonic eyx is still staying as in the top 3 of best sonic exes

  • @Rickzak2560
    @Rickzak2560 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank god for explaining i was like who is this exe anyways just a weird hedgehog again thanks 👍🌟

  • @tootssebree
    @tootssebree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the you die with me was the line that four from bfb says in his song

  • @OrangeBones489
    @OrangeBones489 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would have died laughing if this video was 20 minutes and 17 seconds long

  • @doomlord0773
    @doomlord0773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For some reason i used to think 2017x's game he possessed was sonic06

  • @SamuelLopez-x1z
    @SamuelLopez-x1z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LORD X: X WHAT IS GOOD MY BROTHERIN
    X: AEEEEE MY BROTHERIN

  • @Leon-wolfren
    @Leon-wolfren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2017 is literally the reboot of the exe by JC back in 2017

  • @bluekzx
    @bluekzx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you forgot to say for mortis that he is a 2011 that was gonna tred the path of the Lord X but got his powers taken away from him and left to grow with the victims that he tortured

    • @bluekzx
      @bluekzx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also Don't know if you know this but Mortis is a Cannon Timeline to Lord X contanuity

    • @bluekzx
      @bluekzx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also Raven on Twitter actually broke the song down with additional info on Twitter

  • @X_Sonic2017
    @X_Sonic2017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey look duncachi is talking about me

  • @copper438
    @copper438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sooo, 2017x has dysmorphia towards sonic the hedgehog, neat

  • @CocoPuff2
    @CocoPuff2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic the hedgehog: HEY WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING FAKER?
    2017 X: Uhhh (FUCKING DIES)

  • @CacaCabra
    @CacaCabra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SO FOLLOW ME INTO THE SEARING HEAT
    BREAK THE SILENCE, UNDERNEATH THE SHEET
    KNOW I'VE SET IN STONE, THE ORDER
    PEPPERED ENVY, PAIN AND HORROR 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️💯💯

  • @infiernocorpse
    @infiernocorpse หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2017x? Come on guys, that just Sonic

  • @josephboyer3130
    @josephboyer3130 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    subterfuge came out in around march, hitsingle came out around april from what ive found.

  • @justsans.
    @justsans. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    personally, i find the fact 2017 is just 2011 if he were even more obsessed with sonic rather funny.
    it means 2011 has two “future” variants. lord x, which seems the most likely, or 2017 if he just descends further into insanity.

    • @decidueyesrandm5526
      @decidueyesrandm5526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There's the third, lord mortis, an alternate lord x classed as canon where x gets usurped by bandado, and thrown into fire, becoming more of an anti-hero
      I assume he was usurped due to lack of guardians
      So it's either
      X forgets himself and falks further into his obsession
      X continues to master his capabilities and makes only a singular mistake in that making life of his own (EXE)
      Or
      No healthcare so womp womp for x

    • @sboy2044
      @sboy2044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2017 X is an entirely separate canon from 2011. He isn’t even called X, just “Sonic”.

  • @SwordFishLuka
    @SwordFishLuka 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cold, so cold..

  • @mathewhurst-e9q
    @mathewhurst-e9q หลายเดือนก่อน

    2017x: I AM SONIC I AM SONIC I AM I AM SONIC

  • @Baconboy_Aa2
    @Baconboy_Aa2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro when I found out about 2017x I was like: HOLY MOLY DIS MAN IS BEAUTIFUL IM GONNA MAKE HIM MY OC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @emanmanasrah1988
    @emanmanasrah1988 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    FINALY SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE SAME opinion!

  • @duo23288
    @duo23288 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basically, If you want to surivive 2017
    Just say he's sonic and don't doubt him at all...

  • @kennydarkust
    @kennydarkust หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Might be late but yes 2017 had the melody first

  • @SSG_GUY211
    @SSG_GUY211 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cold... So Cold...

  • @Swervinstraight
    @Swervinstraight วันที่ผ่านมา

    what if 2017x met tails secret histories? Wouldnt they get along real well since in the og vid he was looking for the real sonic who is tail's best friend.
    edit:If was is

  • @SparklingJam
    @SparklingJam 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope someone makes a 2017X game in the style of 06

  • @namelessking7101
    @namelessking7101 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder who's the other Titans in the void

  • @SamuelLopez-x1z
    @SamuelLopez-x1z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm guessing that Lord x in this version of Sonic and since they're both from the same dimension I'm guessing they're Brothers in some way

  • @AlbertsStuffParody
    @AlbertsStuffParody หลายเดือนก่อน

    cold

  • @FullMetalchainsaw
    @FullMetalchainsaw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MY fav will forever be NMI

  • @vyrox71105
    @vyrox71105 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cold, so cold

  • @V0X6666
    @V0X6666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t mean to brag, but I can strike the 2017 x pose perfectly

  • @retix1892
    @retix1892 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear I meet a kid like back in the day lol

  • @Zimaton_Lano
    @Zimaton_Lano หลายเดือนก่อน

    All 2017x stuff aside, why does this guy sound like sonic?

  • @ash_cats
    @ash_cats 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    god i love sonic

    • @Duncachi
      @Duncachi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too, I think I should be like him…
      I should BE HIM

    • @ash_cats
      @ash_cats 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Duncachi oh..... that's duncachi.exe.........

    • @TheKriegsmen
      @TheKriegsmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Duncachi
      Hey!
      *Squirts Water bottle*
      No!

  • @ronaNiCe
    @ronaNiCe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you talk about allfather?

    • @ronaNiCe
      @ronaNiCe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nevermind...

  • @Osc-o50
    @Osc-o50 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2017x is just tough

  • @thewretchedspawn-q1s
    @thewretchedspawn-q1s หลายเดือนก่อน

    2017x is like mfs when they become attached to a character and develop their entire personality (I’m mfs)

  • @Droughtfew23
    @Droughtfew23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRO, what would happen if 2017x met Secret History Tails?!

  • @ulc-little-god
    @ulc-little-god หลายเดือนก่อน

    It basically just Goku black but insecure