I bought a NEW $70,000 fisker ocean for 85% off because they couldn't fix it

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  • @augustus5151
    @augustus5151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4091

    to be fair, youtube hasnt been recommending your stuff, this is the first video recommended to me in weeks

    • @millerbeer01
      @millerbeer01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      This.

    • @728GT
      @728GT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

      Too many blacks in the thumbnails

    • @danielhammer7148
      @danielhammer7148 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Same

    • @martinussen34
      @martinussen34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Same here.

    • @michaelreynolds1904
      @michaelreynolds1904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      Most of my notifications for subscribed channels have stopped showing up.

  • @Gersberms
    @Gersberms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2144

    That hood hinge is the absolute pinnacle of nobody knew what they were doing.

    • @ZachGrabill
      @ZachGrabill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      That was my thought. Could they find no engineers with actual experience??

    • @ChristianPareATLAS
      @ChristianPareATLAS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      How to build things and make sure they will broke. Imagine people went to universities and that's the result. Lots of people have rich parents. University diplomas are overrated 🙄

    • @xsleep1
      @xsleep1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Along with the front motor parking pall.

    • @DeadBaron
      @DeadBaron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Those types of hinges used to be common in the 70s (and 80s I think?) but they had a lot more material in the hood so that warping wouldn't happen *as* often, but there's a reason they died out.

    • @trappedinkalifornee
      @trappedinkalifornee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Reminds me of my old Porsche 356….😜

  • @Samcrac
    @Samcrac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +907

    Great purchase; now push it into your garage and never talk about it again

    • @SuperLowtones
      @SuperLowtones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

      😂....dude, you have more cars scattered around your farm than animals...maybe you can add this to your collection...😂

    • @ChrisM777
      @ChrisM777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Sam, you must have mistaken this channel for yours. Thats what you are known for.

    • @organiccold
      @organiccold 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The Master has spoken 😅

    • @williamprentice9539
      @williamprentice9539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂😂

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      my buddy has 8 cars in his backyard that he got "great deals" on and only needs _____ to get it going and then "sell for twice what he paid..." yadda ya ya... I don't know how his wife puts up with it

  • @D17SCR
    @D17SCR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +742

    Ex Fisker tech here, happy to help if and where I can 👍🏼

    • @JohnDoe-en9ch
      @JohnDoe-en9ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Great, any ideas why the last tech had no luck?

    • @D17SCR
      @D17SCR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@JohnDoe-en9ch No luck doing what exactly?

    • @JohnDoe-en9ch
      @JohnDoe-en9ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@D17SCR Getting it to operate.

    • @D17SCR
      @D17SCR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

      @@JohnDoe-en9ch Should be relatively straight forward. Put a new 12v battery in, then hook the car up to a good 12v support (this is crucial, it needs to be a good support. Or a set of jump leads to another vehicle running and outputting 14v.) All of this needs to be done near access to a charger for the HV, leave the car being supported and plug the HV charger in and simply leave it, it won’t start charging right away but once the 12v is about where it needs to be it’ll start to charge the HV. At that point you can turn off the 12v support and let the car charge. Circa 5% SOC will then let the vehicle support the 12v itself and should be smooth sailing from there on out.

    • @JohnDoe-en9ch
      @JohnDoe-en9ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@D17SCR Sounds pretty straight forward. How come the other techs couldn't figure that out?

  • @Azzysdesignworks
    @Azzysdesignworks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Ive said again and again.. if your company that makes electronics goes out of business, your software should be disqualified from the DCMA. Make it all open source, and allow people to modify and get other parts working with these giant cell phones.

    • @razoraz
      @razoraz หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES! THEY FUCK YOU ON THE SALE AND YOU CAN NEVER MAINTAIN OR RETAIL! Your point makes so much sense but the fact is that customers of out of business business can never afford to lobby for this. F DMCA

  • @bikrboy128
    @bikrboy128 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +678

    10k for a fisker ocean is crazy. Hopefully this helps other ocean owners diagnose/fix their cars in the future

    • @icemanleo
      @icemanleo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      History in the making

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      what other owners?

    • @paceauto5382
      @paceauto5382 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hopefully Rich can purchase more an the company would want to partner with him for technical support! 💯🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂

    • @bill4639
      @bill4639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Honestly, are the batteries even worth that much?

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      There is no future for Fisker cars

  • @CarWizard
    @CarWizard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +507

    I just bought a Fiat 500e that needs batteries. It needs a brutha’s luv on it.

    • @zxggwrt
      @zxggwrt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      You must first find a “brutha” in Kansas, homie.

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Wiiiiiiiiiiizard

    • @roborovsky6950
      @roborovsky6950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      That thing probably takes a couple double A's.

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What would be awesome if somebody cooked up some electronics that can lie to various EVs about the pack, so Jehu Garcia can build you a pack.

    • @craigt8432
      @craigt8432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Hi Wizard, great to see u lurkin the tube off hours 😂

  • @andrelascasas3156
    @andrelascasas3156 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +727

    The hood buckling on it's own weight is insane

    • @johna1160
      @johna1160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      Looks like Fisker design engineers may have resurrected a 90 y.o. hinge design where hood locks into upright position. Back then, it was accomplished with a pawl that dropped into a ratcheting sprocket. To lower hood, you have to LIFT IT FIRST to disengage lock and then it will drop. Trouble is, only geezers like me, and younger folks into old cars have a clue how to operate them. Obviously, some clueless schmo who's used to gas struts tried to force locked hood into closed position.

    • @Drew_Snydermann
      @Drew_Snydermann 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@johna1160 I think some older Mercedes had a locking hinge that used mechanical release levers needed to close.

    • @bzmotoninja83
      @bzmotoninja83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      From the looks of it, Fisker made a locking hinge and whoever went to shut it after it locked didnt unlock it.

    • @crisnmaryfam7344
      @crisnmaryfam7344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Drew_Snydermann Some older muscle cars had this issue too. Most of them have heavy steel hoods and its not an issue but some have a thin aluminum light weight hood, and the manufacture FAILED to change the mechanism for a lighter hood, so when you pull it down, if you dont put your hand on the underside of the hood and coax it shut, youll end up with a crease dent across the entire hood.

    • @BremboT
      @BremboT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well, it wasn't designed to be opened by DIYers. It's a service port.

  • @mnaeseth24
    @mnaeseth24 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    As a former fisker employee I hope you figure it out and help other owners that are in the limbo right now

    • @razoraz
      @razoraz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So I'm curious what you're doing now. I'm so sad not only for Fisker customers but their employees. Seems Owner screwed everyone !

  • @everettebinger5956
    @everettebinger5956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I am so damn happy Rich grabbed one of these!! Having him take a look is exactly what the Fisker community needed!

  • @jamdoodles
    @jamdoodles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +224

    Very fun to sit here and watch John cause problems for 20 minutes 😆

    • @TrekZero
      @TrekZero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I only watched the Video and wan't to give John an Gibs Memerial Slap... or a Bud Spencer Greeting...

    • @Poyser1911
      @Poyser1911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ikr first time watcher and I started side eyeing john when the pressed the breaks the very FRIST time, wtf we diagnosing a battery issue and and he in the driving seat doing things on his own harzards, window wiper

    • @jaredrichardson2944
      @jaredrichardson2944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That dude…….

  • @kraignadjkovic5494
    @kraignadjkovic5494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    ‘Why is this so hard?’ John. The answer in this case is John.

    • @TheJohn8765
      @TheJohn8765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      No offense to John, but he needs to go work on something he understands. Trying to diagnose a half-baked software system is not his forte.

    • @Jonny2by4
      @Jonny2by4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      he just had to pull the negative terminal off the battery. i dont know why he didn't understand that lmao

    • @Billy-l2h
      @Billy-l2h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂​@@Jonny2by4

    • @breakupgoogle
      @breakupgoogle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY he is an idiot that only seems to make it all worse.

    • @FlorinAntonoaei
      @FlorinAntonoaei 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      My blood was boiling, it was such a simple task

  • @oldcarnutzs2886
    @oldcarnutzs2886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    You can disengage an electronic brake by providing 12 V directly to the plug. Usa a powerprobe on the harness for the E brake.

    • @diesel701ful
      @diesel701ful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      At the end of the video Rich says there is even another emergency block in the front motor with a pin.

    • @OwO---Drunk_Seulgi---OwO
      @OwO---Drunk_Seulgi---OwO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      There's something so satisfying and so American about crudely bypassing new technology just to get sh!t done.

    • @failranch9542
      @failranch9542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Be super careful with a power probe. I heard about a tech who managed to deploy every single airbag simultaneously poking around under the dash with one 😂

    • @Dingleberry1856
      @Dingleberry1856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OwO---Drunk_Seulgi---OwOgeterdun

    • @cdbennett2332
      @cdbennett2332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@failranch9542 you have to be really stupid to do that. Air bag stuff is all yellow

  • @ColoradoMoe
    @ColoradoMoe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    John is that friend that helps 2% of the time and makes life 400x more difficult the other 98%. But you still need him around 😂

    • @mike12585
      @mike12585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Just pushing buttons for no reason 😂

    • @Thereminator101
      @Thereminator101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      John has the type of brain wiring that would be dangerous on a commercial construction site.
      The inability to understand and coordinate with others = injuries or death. He wouldn't last long when safety is on the linel

    • @freestyleskyline
      @freestyleskyline หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly 😅😂

  • @Justthemow
    @Justthemow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    1:25 they are all brothers 👉🏻✊🏿✊🏿

  • @TheSeanUhTron
    @TheSeanUhTron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    Hearing that those cars were going for super cheap had me almost interested... I'm glad I never pulled the trigger on one, this is exactly what I was afraid of!

    • @shangsty
      @shangsty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      yeah good that the lady that bought this one traded it before it died

    • @roborovsky6950
      @roborovsky6950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@shangsty Well, it died because she traded it and the car was left untouched for too long.

    • @TheJohn8765
      @TheJohn8765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Yep. No warranty support. No software updates. No parts availability. All from a company known for half-baked software on release. That thing will brick itself doing 75 on the highway and kill you. I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot pole except to part it out and let others beta-test their potential demise.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are a number of cheap 10 year old evs out there that are selling dirt cheap. Yet with out knowing how much battery replacement cost they are not worth it. Even the I3 would be a super commuter car and one has the range extender.

    • @TheSeanUhTron
      @TheSeanUhTron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@kameljoe21 I wouldn't be worried at all about the battery. Those can be replaced with any sort of battery as long as they have the same characteristics (Chemistry, voltage, etc.)-- And they're usually pretty reliable anyways. It's the proprietary software and diagnostics tools that I'd be worried about. So if something goes wrong, there's little-to-no support from the manufacturer on how to fix it. The only thing going for the Fisker Ocean is that it was manufactured by Magna, so they may share some parts and design elements with other EV's manufactured by them.

  • @kylec.5462
    @kylec.5462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    I love the Honda beat build, not necessarily because it’s “cheap” just because it’s unique

    • @ivanjovanovic362
      @ivanjovanovic362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah but he just records some non important crap and uploads it. Im not watching them talk to eachother for 30 minutes

    • @kylec.5462
      @kylec.5462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ivanjovanovic362 Good thing no one is forcing you to watch it.

    • @kylec.5462
      @kylec.5462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivanjovanovic362 Also if you are complaining about a 30 minute video that you didn’t like, but watched, even after deeming it “unimportant crap”, you have a tough life ahead of you….

  • @donaldlibbey6700
    @donaldlibbey6700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    Former FOO owner. E brake is automatic when in park. Also, you need to buckle drivers seat belt, foot on brake and put into drive/neutral.

    • @danielelson7141
      @danielelson7141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you can press the brake release button to put the car in drive without the seatbelt

    • @javiersilva1577
      @javiersilva1577 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How much were you able to sell yours for?

    • @zoneone2259
      @zoneone2259 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know if anyone mentioned this but lots of cars with a auto E-brake engage if you have a door open. Every time you open the driver door, the E-brake will try to engage.

  • @AutoAuctionRebuilds
    @AutoAuctionRebuilds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Every TH-camr I talk to says views are down right now, myself included. I think this build it epic! Also TH-cam hasn’t recommended a video to me from your channel or any other channel I follow for months.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are too many channels with good content for me to catch every video I want to, even from favorite creators. I watch channels like Rich and Sampson Boat Co because they have great content, not because they post a lot. When creators start to make lots of content just to get a video out every day, quality invariably suffers. They are putting 10 minutes of content into a 23 minute video. Editing the video to keep attention without resorting to (too many) cheap tricks means you have to start with a lot of footage and events.

    • @dewdew34
      @dewdew34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I get odd ball videos promoted over and over... i have to hit subscriptions to see about 80% of subbed chans. Been weird for 3-4 months.

  • @MrTommymxr
    @MrTommymxr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Fisker's onboard entertainment system is so slow that they keep it running even while the car is off. You get about 1-2 weeks on the 12V battery. They stopped that with software V2

  • @reedjacksonmaccom
    @reedjacksonmaccom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    jeezus John. pay attention

    • @drinkmorecocacola
      @drinkmorecocacola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      John absolutely sucked

    • @robe4314
      @robe4314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh my god so frustrating!

    • @kitmarshall4084
      @kitmarshall4084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i dont know how rich stay so calm.. i would told john go take a smoke break and come back next week.

    • @calmccullen3539
      @calmccullen3539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eject john, fast.

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Rich, I know it's a bit late but you could have just jacked up the rear, removed the wheels, remove the wires going to the parking brake, apply 12 volts to the calliper and bypassed the e brake.
    Oce the wheels are back on use the dollies on the front and that would have saved a few hours....
    It's what Freddy did with his P1 when he needed to get it on the trailer. 😆

  • @Adones09
    @Adones09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should "... As a Technician, what I KNEW what was going to be a real PAIN when I 1st saw it? 1) Screen that does everything, so when it breaks, you can't control anything, like the A/C, radio, etc.. 2) Electronic "E" Parking Brakes.

  • @jauwn
    @jauwn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How am I just getting recommended your channel for the first time, after watching this sort of content for years? This is some of the funniest car rebuilding content I've seen in months

  • @Reseiver
    @Reseiver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You would want all 4 wheels to lock during the winter. Especially if you park on the inclined parking spot after a longer trip. If the ground is icy it's very common for car to glide off, which is quite dangerous.

  • @starfan6299
    @starfan6299 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    The parking brake locking while it rolled is probably part of a hill lock system. So you don't accidentally go rolling down a hill.

    • @siddharthkapadia7674
      @siddharthkapadia7674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of the complain in his review a month ago that the car rolls back. LOL!

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siddharthkapadia7674 it cannot roll back lolll, it has a physical locking key on the front motor.

    • @solty3928
      @solty3928 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alanmay7929 it doesn't have hill lock, even mkbhd mentioned in his review that its such a flaw to not have it after being so expensive

    • @danielelson7141
      @danielelson7141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@solty3928 It does when it gets to 2.0

  • @spazzman90
    @spazzman90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    One of these was for sale near me with the flat blue paint job for $20k. Went down to buy it, drove it, and didn't end up having the guts. Good luck to all out there with these vehicles...

    • @judep4372
      @judep4372 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You did the right thing by walking away. 👍🏾

  • @JOfAllT
    @JOfAllT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Hood damage was user error. Someone attempted to close the hood without disengaging the lock, which damaged it permanently. It could have been better designed, though. Struts are cheap.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      There are cars 30 or even 40 years old that has spring assisted hinges that hold a comparatively heavy steel hood up without having any latches or anything. No struts just open the hood and leave it. Just pull it down when it's time to close it. No gas springa, no latches and no struts. My parents drove Volvo for something like fifty years before my father got a Skoda instead. I never saw a strut or anything like that when I was a kid. I thought they were joking when I saw someone use a strut when working on a Toyota. Even more stupid I thought were cars with hoods that opened forward. I never understood the idea there.
      But yea, a strut is cheap and simple. Hinges that lock and you have to disengage them before closing is just asking for someone to damage them by doing their 500 pound Gorilla impression when closing the hood.
      I never liked Fisker products. For years they presented interesting things and promised the sky but delivered nothing like that. Designing a weak hood hinge like that was just asking for it to be damaged. Wouldn't surprise me if their warranty would claim it was user damage and make sure their customers payed dearly for any repairs. Not that it matters as there doesn't look like there will be any company to handle warranties on these cars.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My mower has a hood catch system like that. Locks it open and push up to unlock. They are super simple. Struts might be cheap yet my truck's hood struts are bad and I have not replaced them. This hood latch will last a very long time and is super simple to make and long lasting. Struts have a short life, this does not.

    • @kylecordes
      @kylecordes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wonder how hard someone had to abuse the car (push the hood down) to do that damage.

    • @JOfAllT
      @JOfAllT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kameljoe21 Struts are super cheap to replace too. The problem here is the design. Unless you looked at the mechanism up close, you would not understand.

    • @JOfAllT
      @JOfAllT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kylecordes Not very hard. Fiskers short-sighted original intention was to only have trained service techs open the hood. But reality turned out to be different.

  • @howardbowen-RC-Pilot
    @howardbowen-RC-Pilot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Having a rear ebrake and a transmission parking pawl, locking up the front wheels is super common. My Stellantis EVs have those.
    Regarding the Fisker, Your strategy of fitting a charged 12v to enable the Traction battery to be charged is sound. Ought to be pretty straightforward.

  • @egold33311
    @egold33311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for helping the community giving John work experience!

  • @willtay3016
    @willtay3016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Holy fuck watching John unable to remove a battery cable properly was absolutely insane.

    • @hayden-yz5xv
      @hayden-yz5xv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      John just needs to go play with a toy somewhere and move away from the car. He looks like he's a sabatier more than a friend who helps.

    • @BoominGame
      @BoominGame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hayden-yz5xv saboteur

  • @ron4274
    @ron4274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    8:54 FYI...I watched a recent TH-cam video that mentioned the Ocean will be bricked if it is updated from software version 1 to version 2 (which I assume is still possible). Might be worth doing some research before performing any software upgrades. .

  • @Tax_Mny
    @Tax_Mny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I work for an EV manufacturer and I will say that when the 12v battery dies on one of our vehicles (not a Fisker) even when jumped the vehicle sometimes does not even respond and/or acts weird.
    You should look into replacing the 12v with a new one and see what happens.
    I'd also recommend only using what the manufacturer suggests because the vehicle can also be programmed to look for specific amounts of voltage/amps

    • @rossr6616
      @rossr6616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I Second this, and Third this; Critical step and will save hours
      , or in youse guys case. DAYS! 😂😂

    • @Tax_Mny
      @Tax_Mny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rossr6616 Exactly, it's very critical

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More and more I think these thing should have a hard reset switch.

    • @Tax_Mny
      @Tax_Mny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hermitgreenn Usually how we would "hard reset" our electric vehicles is by pulling the 12v for about 15 minutes.

    • @TBasianeyes
      @TBasianeyes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i'd do this if ya'll would stop putting in proprietary batteries which cost an arm and a leg. oh and companies like tesla never have them in stock

  • @insevanhouts
    @insevanhouts หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who's dealt with dead 12v batteries in EVs. Jumpstart it WHILE the AC charger is plugged in. This should activate the 12v support quickly. Done this many times with my Hyundai

  • @magnuslarsson337
    @magnuslarsson337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Fisker Ocean probably has a PM (Permanent Magnet 🧲) motor both in the the rear and front drive unit.
    If it had been an induction motor, it would have been “free spinning” without the cogging torque or Back EMF of the PM motor.
    Remember that you have a reduction gear and the force from the cogging torque and Back EMF gets multiplied by the ratio of the reduction gear.

  • @sirseriously
    @sirseriously 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    If it was previously stuck in neutral, it probably wouldn't hv charge due to that. Throw it back on 60a, put it in park and plug in the hv charger and bobs your uncle.

    • @rossr6616
      @rossr6616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ted is actually your uncle but Bob doesn't know

    • @menzimabuza1746
      @menzimabuza1746 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@rossr6616 ☝️no no no..Phil is actually your Uncle, it's Ted who doesn't know

    • @AlexR_44
      @AlexR_44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@menzimabuza1746 wait, I thought Scotty doesn't know. . .

  • @arls417
    @arls417 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I love his petrol and ev powered videos. Both are usually very entertaining.

  • @BarryRuffnerXD
    @BarryRuffnerXD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    When mine did this I put a jump box on it while it was charging and left it on / charged for about 20 minutes and the battery came back and everything started working. DO NOT use california mode though, the doggie windows need to be calibrated if the 12v goes away and they will be rolled halfway down.

    • @rossr6616
      @rossr6616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Doggie Mode OMG ! 😂

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The hood problem reminds me of the square body Chevy trucks that came out during the mid 70s. The hoods were flimsy and the hinges would tend to bind up over time if the owners did keep them greased and or oiled so when going to close the hood the hoods would get a crease in them from the hinges.. One had to keep the hinges well lubed or you would get the classic Chevy creased hood.

  • @DaveDarin
    @DaveDarin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have seen interviews with American Leasing, that has purchased the remaining 3000+ Oceans and will be using them as New York City taxis, and private Ocean owners are leaning more positive as American Leasing is suggesting parts to be available through them. BUT, I see it differently. Google how many miles a New York City taxi makes per year, 45,000+. That is a huge demand as it's more than 3 times the average 12,000-14,000 miles a private owner runs a personal car per year. As generous as American Leasing seems, I can not see them allowing a taxi to sit idle, generating zero income, and letting a part be sent to a private owner when they need it. And it's a New York City company. Do NYC companies play nice???? I don't think so, it's all bottom line.

  • @stevenfaber3896
    @stevenfaber3896 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Auto hold for whatever gear 0mph will force the parking brake on when at low-zero, should be in driver/driving settings. Turn that feature off and it should freewheel.
    I know you all said it was the brake pedal press that did it, but it likely uses that to say "Braking scenario" and then the PB System checks for movement.

  • @kylec.5462
    @kylec.5462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    1:20 They all have black shirts on

    • @dlewis9760
      @dlewis9760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was obvious that was the similarity.

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They all are missing a Stevon in their life

    • @JohnDoe-en9ch
      @JohnDoe-en9ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...and banged Leenda.

  • @yass123
    @yass123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Uncle Rich is back baby

  • @CoachTP80
    @CoachTP80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Appreciate you picking up that battery that got tossed. I had a visceral reaction to seeing it get thrown - i grew up in neighborhoods covered in litter.

  • @foxlake6750
    @foxlake6750 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A neighbour bought an Ocean, beautiful interior and fantastic building quality.

    • @victormdp
      @victormdp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably a nice (and expensive) decoration element right now

  • @kevinobrien795
    @kevinobrien795 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rich, my Chevy Volt has what is called "hill start assist" which sets the brakes when stopped on a hill. Because you were rolling the car backwards, if the Fisker has the same brake assist system, it's possible that was what kept engaging

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    17:52 It looks like this is set up like my CRZ where when in park there is some sort of locking pin on the front axel(making the wheels counter rotate), and the e brake locks the rear wheels.
    Just a guess, because it looked like the passenger wheel caught, spun forward which sent the driver side wheel spinning backward and fired out the wheel lift.

  • @KentBuchla
    @KentBuchla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I finished your audiobook on one of my epic roadtrips, Rich. In a Model X, no less. Great stuff and I am VERY appreciative that you read it yourself. It needed your voice.

  • @oodragondrew
    @oodragondrew 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lol when the founder came on the center screen shifting through the settings, I had one of those laugh so hard you fart moments 😂😂😂

  • @SpaceTech54
    @SpaceTech54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I TRY - I watch EVERYTHING you push - Love the Humor and the Information! Folks - Watch the EV.....

  • @mhjl0
    @mhjl0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Is John acoustic? I think I would explode working on a car with that guy.

    • @breakupgoogle
      @breakupgoogle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣

    • @joeterra.t
      @joeterra.t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      John is that kid from elementary school that eats his buggers and lets everyone know how it tastes.

    • @mhjl0
      @mhjl0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeterra.t Too right

    • @Robsav-yx6vi
      @Robsav-yx6vi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes . I couldn’t agree more . Turn this on , turns that on or off , 11 year old

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Na he's a Capella

  • @leodalkey651
    @leodalkey651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I've worked with computers for decades. The modern concept of having every function on a car run through a computer is the worst idea ever. Beats riding a motorcycle in a t shirt without a helmet. What's scary is it isn't just electrics. Most all the ice cars are doing this too and its 99% crap nobody needed that costs you a grip, and leaves you grounded everytime it breaks.

    • @JD-yx7be
      @JD-yx7be 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem is also interdependence between so many systems. Ive had my diesel truck on the side of the road because a $30 cps sensor failed

  • @notsecure
    @notsecure 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Like this EV troubleshooting videos! Rich back to rebuild.

  • @benjamintucker9829
    @benjamintucker9829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4 wheel e-brake, I could have that one time when I tried parking on a steep icy driveway with a 1973 Buick Estate Wagon. I took my foot off the regular brakes and the tank of a car started sliding down the driveway.

  • @OcelotTheGreat
    @OcelotTheGreat หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely adore your attitude to fixing things and figuring out what is wrong! I share this with you!❤❤❤

  • @adot9186
    @adot9186 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I was going to say the three men save money using shipstation?

  • @C.I...
    @C.I... 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The fact a handbrake, i.e. a wire connected to a brake caliper, could be turned into something that becomes this much of a nightmare to just disengage is insane.

    • @schwuzi
      @schwuzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think it would have worked had they just replaced the 12V battery. No point in trying to charge it even at 60 Amps. You don't know how much current this car draws on startup with all the electronics running.

    • @redsquirrelftw
      @redsquirrelftw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really hate how EVs try to over complicate everything. In theory EVs should be simpler than gas cars but then they pull off stuff like this.

    • @JD-yx7be
      @JD-yx7be 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@redsquirrelftw Even gas cars have had e brakes for a while. My sisters 2019 mazda 6 had it and that is a economy car under $20k

  • @tony_25or6to4
    @tony_25or6to4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The battery pack is worth more than $10k. How much are the motors? $3-5k?

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Batteries are fragile. The chemistry used determines how fragile they are to being entirely discharged. That can be a problem with a car like this that was left unattended until the 12V battery failed. Lets hope the big battery pack can be recharged and the cells balanced.

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not worth 10k if it's sitting at around 0V right now. Who knows how much is salvageable.

  • @xt1200z1
    @xt1200z1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 2001 S500 has the locks for hood, takes two people to unlock the hood.
    The parasitic drain on the 12v with software 1.1 is a pita. The real hurdle is how to get upgraded to 2.0 which will free up the 12v.
    P.S. My S500 developed a drain, never could find it so put a battery switch on the 12v.

  • @theodorgiosan2570
    @theodorgiosan2570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never seen a car that locks all four wheels like that but my 1979 Subaru has the E brake on the front wheels instead of the rear. It's helpful if you have a brake failure because on such a light car you can stop the car nearly as fast with the E brake as with the hydraulic brakes.

  • @nsane14
    @nsane14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I thought Rich was joking about a video of the CEO thanking you for buying the car that plays on the infotainment screen. 20:50 had me rolling.🤣

  • @Colbybartley
    @Colbybartley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That video of Henrik popping up is FOUL!!

  • @SALESPRODUCTIONS
    @SALESPRODUCTIONS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I wonder about some basic "goodwill" of the company and the courts in letting the software out into the "open source" community - or even selling it to some software company that then could re-sell affordable updates to this particular vehicle line. What I really basically mean is that there IS a market for the owners that have the cars in trying to at least keep them running etc . . and it seems a shame ( AND INCREDIBLY wasteful ) to basically "brick" an entire car line because of lawyers / creditors etc . . . AND there IS value in the software and the existing cars - so it is better than NO MONEY at all going to the investors / creditors.

    • @BlackheathTownhouse
      @BlackheathTownhouse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't worry, a Chinese company will buy the assets, including the software.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue is that Fisker very likely outsourced (third party) a lot of that software - they don't own it to be able to open source it.

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Someone will probably buy the software along with a bunch of other stuff and it will never see the light of day or any support. It is a shame that open source is not a thing in automotive or equipment. They only see the software as a tool to keep you under their thumb. Want to program that key? Just go to the dealer and give them $200 for 1 minute worth of work.

  • @SmilingDevil
    @SmilingDevil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I picked up you guys were having issues to not overshoot a certain current at some point or the car would shut off when you didn’t not want it to. Been in countless dead battery scenarios where pushing the breaks would cause the Motor to die cause of the sudden power surge of the break light coming on. First thing to do was killing all unnecessary power drains, and that means Radio, Exterior lights and Interior lights, maybe that is all computer controlled now, so blocking the door opening switches would have been my go to in order to stop that car to drain its own 12 V battery. Plus, if the car engages parking breaks when it detects rolling, put blocks behind and in front of one tire…

  • @davidturk6170
    @davidturk6170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:22 - absolutely correct. Always charge a significantly drained battery outside of the vehicle system. You don’t necessarily have to physically remove the battery, but disconnect the cables to the vehicle.

  • @jenkinsmanly-spain1252
    @jenkinsmanly-spain1252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    In 2011 my classmate told me Fisker would beat out Tesla. I'm looking for that guy. 😂

    • @jtsholtod.79
      @jtsholtod.79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Hence the expression that opinions are like a$$holes...you know the rest. He's probably still doing Vines on his BlackBerry.

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He was wrong from day 1.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blackterminal And wrong more than once, given that timeframe

  • @bilboswaggens2975
    @bilboswaggens2975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I've seen multiple of these under 30k. Actually crazy

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He literally scrolled through a dozen listed at like 20-25k$ at the beginning. 😂

  • @jpslaym0936
    @jpslaym0936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Best automotive site on youtube hands down. Rich FYI - youtube hasnt been recommending your stuff, this is the first recommend since you fixed your McLaren for me

  • @dbaider9467
    @dbaider9467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks like a great build quality vehicle. Seriously, nice looking car. The belt line is too high like all other EV's, but nice all the same. I'm in Ireland and never heard of the brand before. In the early 1900's there were dozens and dozens of car makers also before natural selection distilled the Big Three. Fun times we live in.

  • @imurhuckleberry1762
    @imurhuckleberry1762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The e brake on back hub has a positive negative connection, you can put power to them to unlock them

  • @shawnanderson9886
    @shawnanderson9886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Me watching the video screaming pull the ebrake fuse lol

  • @mattsinger8226
    @mattsinger8226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    17:00 was comedic gold 😂"can't imagine why they went out of business"

  • @digitalgulby
    @digitalgulby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love “power” written on the door sill, that seems like something GM would have done in the 80s

    • @JohnDoe-en9ch
      @JohnDoe-en9ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, and many of those cars still run today.

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice to see Rich having our shade tree mechanic problems.

  • @runechristiansen7372
    @runechristiansen7372 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "They are not the same person" 🤣 you are so damn funny and your videos are both fun and interesting 👌

  • @AvocadoAtrocity
    @AvocadoAtrocity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    That's not carbon fiber on the rims. It's recycled OCEAN plastic. Hence the name 😅😅😅😅

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plastic is made out of hydrocarbon: so both can be true.

  • @ettcha
    @ettcha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Man, something might be up with me, but I love the looks of this and the vinfast vf8

    • @xbuggativeyron
      @xbuggativeyron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah something is wrong with you

    • @zzaaaaap
      @zzaaaaap 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree the Ocean looks slick, looks like an Evoque EV

    • @TheJohn8765
      @TheJohn8765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I liked the looks when MKBHD reviewed it even tho it's seriously flawed (mostly self-inflicted by its shoddy software).

  • @VigenDuran
    @VigenDuran 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was a fisker technician, I know alllllll about these

  • @bradburnett7576
    @bradburnett7576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    haha my uncle is looking at getting one so I wanted to watch this. I didnt realize the whole series isnt out yet haha he has a lonnng road ahead before the problems are solved and it becomes a viable option instead of a money pit brick but youll get there!

  • @onechain13
    @onechain13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude this is exactly what having time and money and a platform to share is for! GOOD STUFF!

  • @DonnieDarko727
    @DonnieDarko727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    John be careful around stairs, concrete trucks, and bodies of water 😂

  • @macb00kemdanno
    @macb00kemdanno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    What do these three men have in common? They love Popeye’s Chicken! 🐓 😂

    • @TrojanLube69
      @TrojanLube69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That’s foul 💀

    • @willdogsdroid
      @willdogsdroid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      None of them have ever purchased Sun Block!

    • @michaelreynolds1904
      @michaelreynolds1904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      If you are local to Rich, try Yas Chicken in Lynn. It's phenomenal!

    • @Koolicyde
      @Koolicyde 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@TrojanLube69 "Fowl"

    • @jam3112
      @jam3112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or is it fowl? ​@@TrojanLube69

  • @Molecan
    @Molecan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Video starts at 3:50

  • @AlvaroChavez-t8c
    @AlvaroChavez-t8c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Check the sensor in your drivers seat. There is an issue with them that not all models got resolved. That's why you're having issues with it sensing someone is in the seat. Just trash the 12 volt. those things are garbage and buy a lot of batteries for the remote. Even if you get to update to 2.1 they drain

  • @otakudjr
    @otakudjr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having worked VERY closely with these cars.. I understand your pain. Lets just say you should wire in a 12V disconnect switch and run it to somewhere you can access while you work on it

  • @DetroitMicroSound
    @DetroitMicroSound 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do something crazy now, Rich. Start an amateur rally team, using a 2017 Ford Fiesta. 😁

  • @RandyOrtonsfather
    @RandyOrtonsfather 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They really designed this thing with construction paper and crayons. Then they put it together with ductape and the cheapest metal they could find.

  • @thereplacementfordisplacement
    @thereplacementfordisplacement 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You should have cut a 2x4 to hold the hood up.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They definitely had a 2x4 and a saw available.....really?

  • @beatsteak17
    @beatsteak17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try to push Park Button on the shift lever and foot brake at the same time during start-up. That can re-teach the parking lock pin position. You can also remove the pin with its actuator mechanically.

  • @mattipeltola4394
    @mattipeltola4394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving the frequent uploads. An interesting project to say the least!
    👍

  • @MJ-fh8fw
    @MJ-fh8fw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Sears called from 1986 they want their battery charger back.

    • @flowerpt
      @flowerpt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's why it still works.

  • @abedekok322
    @abedekok322 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In this episode of "Everyone Yells at John" the boys find out how to operate a parking brake

  • @bioniccrouton
    @bioniccrouton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If only Rich knew of some Electrified Garage who specializes in the repair of Electric cars . 🤔

    • @christ510
      @christ510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rich is an electrical engineer

  • @Tripp55
    @Tripp55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rich, you are crazy for trying this and I love it!

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like this Fisker series and the intro month ago when you said "below 20 k I will buy, below 15 k I will buy even 2".
    Great one - regardless which way a swap will go or a rebuild as EV.

  • @TheJuggernoob1
    @TheJuggernoob1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    20:50 Corporate jump-scare

  • @kingmanmarcus
    @kingmanmarcus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think I saw a huge pile of these oceans last week next to some rivians north of Sacramento at a dismantler 5:08

  • @okra3000
    @okra3000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Rich should buy another fisker, strip it down, create a new custom body and rebuild it as a sports car.

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Body is only that works on this car

    • @okra3000
      @okra3000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dzonikg lol knowing Rich he'll figure the rest out.

  • @SBanderaB
    @SBanderaB หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @6:14 with 2 locks you wont be able to close it on yr own...... think! This is going to be a great project and I wish you guys luck.

  • @WCarey-nz7lx
    @WCarey-nz7lx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm like, "Dude, Where did you go!" Glad TH-cam is recommending your videos again. This was especially interesting. I can't wait for when you guys get this running. And tell John, it's ok we understand Mistakes were made😂