Why Loading 30,000 Tons of Grain on a Ship Is Very Risky
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Loading massive amounts of grain onto a cargo ship the size of Algoma Equinox is a dangerous balancing act. Taking on too little means loss of revenue, while too much can put the vessel at serious risk of capsizing.
From: MIGHTY SHIPS: Algoma Equinox
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Yep, again a very over dramatized simple process of loading a ship. Everybody knows way before hand how low the ship can set in the water, this didn't come through the newspaper to them today as a surprise. every one knows they have to load evenly, they knew this 14 years ago when they started. Embarrassing to try to even get the guy to talk on camera as IF he is frightened by the entire scenario. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
Harold Reardon stows factors test weights draft restrictions tpc summerdraft...i loaded hundreds of vessels as big as 80000 mts of sorghum and soybeans. the thing i hate most are small bleeders and a high coleman. lol
Harold Reardon stows factors test weights draft restrictions tpc summerdraft...i loaded hundreds of vessels as big as 80000 mts of sorghum and soybeans. the thing i hate most are small bleeders and a high coleman. lol
The USS Cyclops is proof of what happens when a ship aint loaded properly!
You’re a miserable person lighten up Man😮
I just want documentaries without all this added fake drama bullshit.
They think we will lose interest if they tell us the details. Just the opposite it true at least for me.
Michael Tovar omg! I was just going to write that! its an interesting video on its own. im sure they know what their doing. you dont have to scare us into thinking doom is right around the corner.
Michael Tovar it's not fake drama. get a job in the industry before speaking shit.
kid watches video. kid become expert in job he knows knows nothing about. thx TH-cam for breeding dumb fucks
Michael Tovar.
I just tried to brush that hair off my screen, ya got me!
Loading ships this size causes a lot of bending stress to the hull. That's why the C/O has to be very carefull when drawing up his loading sequence plan. Obviously the ship should not be overloaded, but in principle most of the holds will be full so shifting of the cargo (the main risk with grain-Solas 74) will not occur or to a limited extent. The vessel's stability will be ok. The actual loading operations of this ship will be an issue as I noticed the cargo cannot be properly trimmed due to the fact that there's no loading spout, only a vertical pipe.
Loader has in-grained knowledge on how to load.
Isn't grain dust explosive as well? (No smoking in the vicinity?)
When confined in an elevator. Not so much in the open.
Samuel Mason Not as much as you might think! The big explosions you hear about are at Flour mills. The flour, suspended in the air is quite explosive. Most of the dust associated with grain handling is dirt. Now the red/ white corn hulls ,what we call bee wings around here,might cause a flash fire,but you really gotta try to get that.
@@squach6239 way way late on this comment but your absolutely correct, mainly flour mills. General mills in buffalo ny has no elevators for this very reason, they have these large conveyor belts with metal plates to stand on that you ride up through an opening in the floor. I go there on service calls often, theres a memorial by the front entrance for several workers killed in an explosion in the late 70's. Pretty crazy to think that fine flour particles can do that
We've chartered a ship that can carry 20k tons. "Oh yeah but we want to load 30k tons, guess that'll add up to massive losses"
Equinox can carry 39k tons
My handymax ship 5 hatches loading grain bounch for Djibouti for WPF ( world food program )
get a good map of Michigan..find Barbeau..go to the right a inch and you can see an exact straight water channel....that's the rock cut
that is absolutely amazing that load is 60,000,000 pounds.... the engineering I really cool..
wtf, no death? that's a down vote.
But how do they get it back out? O.O Giant vaccums?
Yea like my girlfriend
Very Original.
Mr. Tako Gaming Channel Elephants...
It's probably a self-unloading ship. Cargo hold shaped like a hopper with a conveyor running underneath.
It Isn't..
No unloading boom, right?
So basically like building a double scope ice cream cone only easier.
It seems to me to be a math problem. Why wouldn't they have a program to map out the load and direct the loading pattern? Eyeballing the draft seems completely antiquated.
It's draught, and grain can change weight depending on how much it has dried out, atmospheric conditions etc. The buoyancy of the water changes with temperature as well.
They have time to kill whilst loading and shipping is not a forgiving industry. Far better to be antiquated and KNOW, than have a program make a mistake and rip your hull open.
It's ALSO "draft".
Draft or draught is both correct. You have different loadlines: Summer, tropical, winter and winter north atlantic... So you can go to that loadline... covering the temperatures...
+Wimlex Wille ...and whether it's fresh or salt water.
But aren't all those things merely algorithms? Considering aircraft can land by themselves, it doesn't seem far fetched to have some laptop deal with this.
it gets good and then the video ends... why are these so short. at least link the damn documentaries.
It's linked in the description.
FYI, this is the show Mighty Ships - Season 8 Episode 4 - Algoma Equinox
sethmonton good eye thanks
Wow he's only 36 he looks a lot older
they unload by tipping it out
Bird shits in there then it all has to be binned
0:49 he says weed lol
That's a lotta Poptarts.
Question : Does UNLOADING have to be done in a particular order as well ? (for listing or capsizing)
Of course it must be discharge accordingly.
Just stop acting like they are carrying highly unstable overheating nuclear reactors and just make a real documentary without the overdrammatized realityshow this almost like saying driving a forklift takes 40 years to master in reality 2 hours and your good to go
Not saying you will be as quick as the guy whos driving 40 years on a forklift
Interesting that you mention fork lifts. Like you said, I worked in a warehouse when I was in school and it only took a couple of hours to learn to drive the fork lift, but if we wanted something tricky done quickly we would go get the guy who had worked there for many years to do the job.
Um...duh?
But how the fuck do they unload it?
does anyone know how exactly they know how much grain, in this case 30000 tonnes, has been loaded on to the ship? do they weigh it before they load??? Or do a draft survey?
Last one is correct, draft survey. Chief officer will know if 30000 tonnes was loaded after draft survey together with the surveyor base on the initial draft before loading.
@@danteawat2943 I am grateful for that information
how literally useless of a promo...
lol this is crap. they usually load 60k ++ on a panamax.
Rubbish. Video, the chief has eaten most of the grain, where he walks the ship will list.., thats physics.
They didn't even mention the greatest danger in loading grain, grain dust is EXPLOSIVE!
Whoa he almost died there...
Lol
The real hero here is the guy who has to inventory and count the number of grains loaded.
Absolutely! Every single grain nugget needs to be accounted for. It’s a thankless job
I wanted an explosion from the dust and an ignition source
What I expected too
Me to, I saw that happen at a silo complex once and it was insane.
I wonder how long will it be until 1st Mate Kirk is promoted to Captain.
DemonLincoln666 *Star Trek Theme Starts*
Except Kirk is his first name, Lake his last. At least he's the Ship's #1.
i thought it was gonna be about a fire hazard with all those fine grains.... i was wrong
Same ... I was expecting something about it's explosive properties in an exposed place ... But 😅
Grain silo fires/explosions are quite common
Has this channel been hacked? A click-bait title with unsubstantiated content wouldn't keep viewers watching in the old days of high quality media. Almost wish I still had a TV.
Are you dom or a troll
No you don't, I am ready to huck mine out the fucking window. Commercials at a rate that is insane. So you remember the days of a movie that was 120-130mins now takes 3 fucking hours. A two hour movie has 1 hour of commercials. If it wasn't a crime, I would remove Comcast from the planet.
Take the time you spend watching ads, go to your local public library, and see how many thousands of movies you can watch ad-free at no charge. If you still have thousands of hours of your life to throw away on TV ads you have my condolences.
dav snow THIS IS FROM TV U DU,BY
ArkaelDren it's funny you say that. Thats how I determine if I'm gonna watch a movie on TV. I compare the length of the movie to the ratio of commercial time. 5:1 is not bad. When it drops to 3:1 it's fucking annoying.
Why the fuck is this in my recommendations
'cause TH-cam doesn't have a fucking clue. It was probably recommended on the basis of some random crap in your history that has nothing to do with over dramatized documentaries on boring shit.
did you expected it to explode to?
because your a fucking moron, once a dumb shit searchers dumb shit then dumb shit gets recommended you dumb shit
I had the privilege to sail great lakes one entire summer on MV Burns Harbor.(now named American Spirit)...anyway...in a little town in upper Michigan is a channel cut thru rock..called the rock cut.,(barbeau Michigan). all downbound ships must pass thru here. ALL ships load according to the daily depth of the rock cut.....they call coastgaurd while loading as a matter of fact...mvburns harbour has great lakes record for total weight thru passage.....we went thru with bottom clearance of...00.25 inch..
no lie...no bullshit...a freaking quarter of inch...that's why in late fall , early winter if you see ship covered in ice going down bound and crew trying to sledge hammer ice off...there getting ready to go thru the rock cut..if you enjoy ship watching..go to barbeau Michigan...ask for directions to rock cut...or better yet , drive half mile passed neebish island ferry dock...park in church lot..walk across Street , thru 100yards of woods ....Walla........water and the rock cut...
sturgeon bay Wisconsin has a channel similar...fyi
jesus more click bait !!
I wonder how much that amount of grain costs.
1 Small lion of a million tony the tigers
I can't believe I looked this up... about 3 to 30 million bucks depending on the grain according to cereals.ahdb.org.uk/markets.aspx
probably between $125-$150 per tonne.depends what it is..milling wheat,feed wheat.?? price goes up and down like any other commodity
I work in a grain elevator this is nothing.. We load barges ,ships ,100 car trains , trucks all day long .. Don't get me wrong what we do is very dangerous and this place is like working on a giant mound of dynamite.. But common sense goes a long way you have to evenly distribute the grain
in medieval times how much could 30,000 tons of grain feed in the event of a siege anyone know how long could they last out?
By my calculation 30,000 tons of grain is around 95,250,000,000 calories. A human needs about 500,000 a year to survive, so around 190,000 people could survive for a year without food!
How in the fuck is this job difficult lol wtf?
Did they answer the question in the title? Or was it just me that missed it
Useless video/title....
I think the answer is in the title.
The narrator is blowing his lid while the first mate is simply "meh".... casually strolling around, whistling, thinking about life and all of it's complexities...
He is more stressed about ANYTHING other than the grain loading.
Almost certainly this was the grain seized from Ukraine and some of it may be not fit for consumption at this point.
I am surprised their isen't a display sensor in the cockpit that shows how sunk the ship is in the water. That's strange that he has to get off the ship to find out.
Re yeah, there is, but what if the sensor is malfunctioning? Those draft marks on the hull can't malfunction. Double checking every so often to be sure is best policy.
can't sit "more deeply," not "deeper." Sheesh.
never go insdie these tanks filled with grains or anything else without gas mask.
yall made the most boring thing in the world, just short of digging a hole even more boring
"I watch the big floaty number very risky"
I did not know that the Grain Dust can explode
maybe cause its 30 thousand fucking tons
That lad's a Newfie. I can tell by the accent.
I work in a 7 million bushel grain elevator this is nothing.. We load barges ,ships ,100 car trains , trucks all day long .. Don't get me wrong what we do is very dangerous and this place is like working on a giant mound of dynamite.. But common sense goes a long way you have to evenly distribute the grain
VERY RISKY!!
Sure, I could fart and my head would explode... Only an idiot would load all the cargo on one side. Click-bait.
Potentially explosive cargo
Trim and Stability of Ship including the Loading of Grain as per National Cargo Bureau is Risky
I had the privilege to sail great lakes one entire summer on MV Burns Harbor.(now named American Spirit)...anyway...in a little town in upper Michigan is a channel cut thru rock..called the rock cut.,(barbeau Michigan). all downbound ships must pass thru here. ALL ships load according to the daily depth of the rock cut.....they call coastgaurd while loading as a matter of fact...mvburns harbour has great lakes record for total weight thru passage.....we went thru with bottom clearance of...00.25 inch..
no lie...no bullshit...a freaking quarter of inch...that's why in late fall , early winter if you see ship covered in ice going down bound and crew trying to sledge hammer ice off...there getting ready to go thru the rock cut..if you enjoy ship watching..go to barbeau Michigan...ask for directions to rock cut...or better yet , drive half mile passed neebish island ferry dock...park in church lot..walk across Street , thru 100yards of woods ....Walla........water and the rock cut...
sturgeon bay Wisconsin has a channel similar...fyi
HappyTrimming calculates the final trimming pours in two holds of a bulk carrier.
Download here:
www.sailors-club.net/maritime-files/file/3372-happytrimming
That this be 30.000 or 100.000 tons I think the total mass does not make this grain more dangerous as far as fire goes once it is sitting still in the ship I do no think it emits much fumes when it is still unlike crude oil grain dust is the dangerous think created when you move and handle grain
Sometimes it sounds that the narrator is saying weed
I have to agree with Lord Jock here when you have to things as fast as possible yes that can lead to accidents like that in many fields of work I myself worked in the construction industry a potentially dangerous field of work as a electrician
Funny how the biggest risk -by far- is not even mentionned here. Proof this type of documentary only sums up to spectacular wanabe approximative data.
Don't see why so much drama. It's just using a mathematical model to make sense of how the ship will behave when loaded. The ship's crew have probably been through this process thousands of times before.
American drama....lol
Fucking click bait. Pffft.
The bullet does not have the Chief's name on it, and it is not still in the case. You're looking at the head stamp on the case head (the back of the case). I'm pretty sure it's not the Chief's name, either, but "GRIEF EG-X".
Ah yes. Now I remember why I tossed the TV years ago. Scripted drama on every channel.
You didnt mention the biggest risk.. Wheat dust is extremely flammable. Boom!!
That's another 2mins of my life wasted watching kids tv... I'm off to kaotic now for some gore
Stupid f ing title
so wouldnt he intuitively know how much draft he will have based on how much total cargo he is taking in?i mean wouldnt experience of loading 30k tons of grain or any other substance in the past prepare him?
that was too short... 1. with no exposure to this field, that was very interesting 2. Title was a bit misleading, but still fun 3. re-release with the long version that your dedicated staff assembled before someone above them rejected to cater to the attention span of church mice that humanity has devolved into (I'm watching this and NOT sitting on a toilet)... I can take 10 minutes of video on a novel subject that is interesting.. but I can take a lot more time too...
Look up Mighty Ships! There is also one on the Paul R. Tregurtha another 1,000 footer!
cool video
Ff
I work for the port of Longview and have loaded this boat with grain B4 lol
someone left the cargo hold lights on for the entire journey so it blew the hatches off and spewed 30000 tons of popcorn into da sea
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Why must everything be dramaticalized to the Nth degree? :(
Kirk Lake is definitely a Newfie I recognize the accent because I grew up there.
Wtf I was expecting at least ship buoyancy being unbalance.
Is this a documentary channel or drama channel..?
with a load of whole grain they set sail in the rain, making time in the Saint Lawrence Seaway...
or they could just... load some metal containers and use a crane...
There is a video on YT of a grain container falling and it explodes. Pretty neat.
lets not pretend this is not an easy job
so if we remove the double negative you're saying let's pretend it's easy
old guy that parks backwards it's not a double negative if it's not describing the same thing idiot
***** facepalm, how can I attract 2 stupid people in a row. how the fuck do you not see that my 2 not's don't cancel eachother out
I have to agree with oldguy & austi.
basically you forgot a comma
'lets not pretend, this is not an easy job'
no double negative anymore :)
What would the ‘company’ rather: couple thousand in revenue loss or risking a safety hazard by overloading a ship.
boaz appelbaum what I’m saying is this, the little but they’re trying to overload to the ship is worth thousands and it’s not worth it in the grand scheme of things.
This loading process can potentially lead to explosion mostly I thinkthat once the grain is loaded and still it is relatively safe but when it is moved one must considere that grain dust that in the right concentration in the air is explosive grain elevators here in the Prairies have exploded and burned because of that dust of course a metal ship may not burn quite as easely normally but that grain dust in the right concentration can be explosive
bernard240vdc Why so many spaces?
A fine, in-depth look at the blindingly obvious.
Today in random trends:
i thought it was all going to catch on fire. also how the hell do they get away with not packaging that? food health and safety? whats that?
Twig 46 ...Good question. .
Attended a vessel on the Columbian river at the port of Portland, I was held up for 3 days as the Coast Guard found rust particles in the hold had to be water pressure cleaned ...
With food-grade compartments you don't have to package it. They don't package it for rail transport either.
boaz appelbaum not always. Recently there have been many recalls of lettuce in the United States, guess why? Because the illegal Mexicans picking said lettuce just shit whereever they want in the fields while working. They're doing it so much they're actually making a lot of people sick... Robots when?
Hey I'm from Thunder Bay cool
I expected the risk would be dust explosion
I saw this movie. The fugitive part 2
Oy M8!
30,000 MT's is actually quite a small quantity
I was expecting a grain dust explosion.
Looks like that 1st mate gets his "fair share" of that grain!
I got here from pigeons dying
I did the same work and there is nothing dangerous about it.
yeah but at the end of the day its the first mates ass if theyre are any fuck up. were you a first mate?