I love using a Trequartista as a lone striker with two wide players moving into the space that he opens up, when he drops back and draws the CB's with him. It is a great way to create a fake strikerless system with him creating a midfield diamond by dropping back. The only thing I find a bit sad is that every player who can really play in that role is basically a CF. Still, Trequartista and Target Forward are by far my favourite roles for strikers.
Great idea for the formation/use of the role. I think my love of the #10 (kinda like what I talked about in the video) means I miss out on trying some other formations that could really be effective. Thanks for the addition, hopefully other people see this and try out it out
Could be interesting to look up Francesco Totti in FM during his prime for the lone forward Trequartista. Think he would fit the role perfectly as well.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I just wanted to say I agree with the folks above. As someone that is sensitive to sounds the chill nature of your videos is amazing. The vaporwave vhs menu is right up my alley as well. Seriously, please keep the vibes regardless of what content you do!
@@CombatJuicebox I'm very introverted by nature so the laid back nature suits me 😆😆 And I'm happy that the chill sounds help out! I know that sometimes sudden, loud sounds can be aggravating for a viewer so that's why I don't do like "pop/chime" noises whenever a marker comes on the screen or something. For the VHS stuff, that's what I grew up with during the 80s/90s so it was right up my alley haha. Glad you're enjoying!
Very usefull, you should explain roles that most people (on the FM world) dont understand yet like raumdeter or wide target man, I think you can do this because every video has examples and very well presented tactics breakdowns, here you have a suscriber. Cheers, keep it up!
My favourite role in FM, was so happy when they allowed it in the AM wide spots. I use in 433 variants, 4231 variants & 442 formations. Just waiting on Mezzalla to be available in the ML & MR spots... Tuck inside when ball on opp side, move into channels when on ball side (each year I wait)
I agree the Trequartista (TQ) excels in the "No. 10" role. Using him as a striker or on the flanks requires more physical skills, but in the No. 10 position, he is supported by both the midfield and strikers. IMHO his main function is to find and exploit space (Anticipation, Decisions, Off the Ball), with creativity being secondary. Given it's almost impossible to find a Messi, I prioritize technique, movement, and balance over pace and acceleration. I use him in a 4-2DM-3-1 formation, behind a Pressing Forward who, along with the wingers, handles the pressing (high Workrate and Stamina). This setup lets the TQ roam and find space when we gain possession. I've found penetrating space is crucial, and even 'mediocre' players overperform due to this ability. Key Player Traits: Move Into Channels, Get Into Opposition Area (if a decent finisher or good in the air), Plays One-Twos, and Dictates Tempo (if a decent creator, helps with refining your team's pace of Counter-attacks if GeggenPressing/ fast paced Vertical Tiki-Taka). I avoid "Gets Forward Whenever Possible" since he connects the defensive midfield with the attack. There are so many parameters and combinations to consider.😃
Another great role explanation thank you Sir! Ah as a football romantic love the trequartista - the heartthrob of the midfield, the elusive artist with a killer touch. Imagine this: The game throbs with energy, a dance between two teams. Your forwards are the dazzling strikers, the ones who steal the spotlight with breathtaking goals. But who sets the stage for their brilliance? Enter the trequartista. Playing in that sweet spot, the three-quarter zone of the pitch, they are the midfield maestro. They see the entire game unfold like a symphony, weaving through defenders with balletic grace. Their passes are like whispered promises, finding their target with pinpoint precision. The trequartista isn't about brute force or thunderous strikes. They are the puppeteer, the one who pulls the strings from the shadows. A delicate touch, a feathery pass that splits the defense like a sigh - that's the trequartista's magic. They are the embodiment of the beautiful game, the architect behind the symphony of goals. They may not always be the ones in the limelight, but their influence is undeniable. Theirs is a love letter written in passes, a silent promise that ignites the fire in the forwards' hearts. So, the next time you witness a game, keep an eye out for the trequartista - the one who conducts the attack, the silent magician weaving his web of creativity. They are the soul of the midfield, the artist whose brushstrokes paint victory on the canvas of the pitch. Legend: -Francesco Totti other Legends: -Riquelme -Ozil -Aimar Current legend: -Dybala th-cam.com/users/shortsOpLd2lpomhY?feature=shared th-cam.com/video/dF0a1x-VmO0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared ❤🧡❤🧡 -Messi - But see him more as a false 9 PS hoping we see a sweeping keeper explanation also in any of the upcoming role explanations 🙏
So, in my recent save in FM23 with Roma, i started using the Trequartista in the left in my 4-3-3 because i had a great young german newgen that i think is perfect for the role and that is evolving at a fast rate and has almost all important stats in 15 or above. The interesting thing is that, he´s doing pretty good at the role but.... I hired Velasco at the start of the season as a free contract from Man City and... he was the sub... untill he started playing like prime Messi in the Trequartista xD the only stat he has higher than 15 is the dribbling and my man stated smashing everyone, mid of the season he has like 15 goals and 10 assists playing serie A and UCL against Top teams and being the best player consistently, he has like 20 Appearences and some more from the bench and hes average rating is like 7,20 all competitions and 7,30 in Serie A, with some higher than 8,00 matches... Hes just a 13-14 attribute average stats in the key attributes and he even has just 12 passing and 15 vision and makes prime Messi passes xD I think the Trequartista role is pretty special, even when you use it with someone that is not Messi level, for sure that level would be insane, and i at some point will make a player in the editor with Prime Messi stats to see what i can get out of the Trequartista role and see if i can reach Prime Real Life Messi stats ahahahhaah but the role is just insanity, i love it so much, and my Velasco is loving it too, just average Serie A player destroying UCL level teams is fun man xD
Love that story!! Thanks for; that's one of the best parts about playing FM. And my favorite part about the Treq is you don't know where he's going to go so the defense sure as heck doesn't know where to go haha. But when he gets the ball you know something amazing could happen
Hey man. Just wanted to drop a line. Loving these position tutorials. I've been playing for a few years now, but these have had me trying different roles in tactics. Thank you.
I remember in real life, Trequartista was popular in Italy in the 2000 to 2010, in Kaka (Milan) and later in Wesley Sneijder (Inter). In 2009/2010, Mourinho unlock Sneijder in league tactic 4-1-2-1-2 (diamond mid), having absolute freedom behind Diego Milito (playing as a DLF-A) and Samuel Etoo (playing as AF), and using a classic 4-2-3-1 in Champions League games, where Sneijder was playing the Trequartista role, but hybrid one, from CM position (simultaneously beeing CM-A, and Trequartista), roaming and going in spaces, that Milito opened playing as a lone striker (DLF-A). Also Don Carlo used Kaka in similar way in his Milan 4-1-2-1-2 (diamond), having a BWM in Gatuso, DLP in Pirlo, and in front of him Shevchenko (AF) and Filippo Inzaghi (Poacher). Today in real life this role sadly is not in use so much, because this role has absolute freedom to roam, which Pep kid of killed it.
Great recount of the role. Here in the states, we didn't have really have any access to watch European football matches (outside maybe the occasional Premier league match) until maybe 10~ years ago. So I missed out on a lot of those classic early 2000's teams and players. Thanks for sharing because I always love to read about classic tactics, teams, and players
Great call on Dybala. Whenever I look for player examples, there's always a player I forget about who I really should've talked about; I think I should've talked about Dybala but we may have to wait for "Trequartista: The Sequel" video for that one hahaha And this role reminds me a lot of the complete forward; like you say generally its the older players that fit best
Hey man this role has often escaped me at times but when you emphasised the fact that the player type in question has to be a Messi Level player which is hard to find😅, thus I realise I have misprofiled the role quite often by playing a player not even close. I wanted to experiment with Havertz at Arsenal in my current save but I'd rather use a different role like CM (a) in midfield or a DLF upfront
It's a tough role to fill, that's for sure! I think we've all tried to make this role work with players who aren't qualified hahaha. I'd try Havertz in the CM(A) role; that's an absolutely brilliant role, especially like you say combined with a DLF.
Great video! I agree the description when it comes to defensive duties is exaggerated. Trequartista do their dirty job on defense, they are just more focused on counter attack. And if you really believe that's an issue, set him on man marking
And work rate adds to that as well; if you have a player with low work rate, they're going to be tougher to have mark their man no matter what role you choose
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker correct: there are lazy people, not lazy roles. Off topic: do you know where you can see a player's favourite role? I know the concept exists, but I cannot find it in the standard skin
I actually don't for the standard skin; I just looked by couldn't find it. There were rumblings on the forums about it being a "column" you can add in the squad view but I couldn't find it.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker exactly, I can only see it sometimes if the player ask it for a new contract or in the pre-match screen, but just sometimes. That's very stupid, a player's favourite role should be a very important part of the game. And maybe it is and we just don't know
I had a winger with lots of creativity, passing, and dribbling, who could shoot and cross but wasn't as good at either as he was at creating with the ball. I used him as a wide treq. The nice thing is that it doesn't require pace, so an older winger with those stats can be used in the role as effectively as a younger faster winger. Essentially, his role allows him to come super deep to receive the ball, and then distribute or progress the ball as he sees fit. Since he got older, I adjusted his roles specifically to have him hold up the ball and cross from deep, and I actually saw an increase in his assists from that. Essentially, he can find a hole between the midfield and the back line, receive and draw out a CB with his progressive carry, and then slot the ball in the path of the striker as soon as the CB jumps. It's especially effective against 4-2-3-1. I consider it a combination between Messi and Grealish- you want him to get the ball and draw as many defenders as you can, so that he can find someone who is free in space.
Great addition to the role, thanks! I also hate using absolutes in my video, like saying only one type of player will work (I think I maybe went too far in this one on that hahaha), because there are so many stories like yours way you're able to craft the role to your player and have success (even if someone like me alludes that you may not have it)
I played a Wolves save a fair few years back and played Diogo Jota as a Trequartista....he was amazing at it, but his attributes were insane in that save.
I learned about something the treq which if you have a creator that has low positioning but has attributes of a creator then you fit him into a treq as the game says about positioning positioning used to describe the defensive positioning of a player and not the actual offensive positioning so a player with low positioning but has great stats at being a creator or potential growth into a creator can be used as a trequart
Never thought of him a anything other than my 10, I have Benjamin Cremaschi in my Watford save and he's developed into quite a good Treq, can play CM, AM, W and ST as well so could fit into all roles, what team instructions would you have for the 442 and 433?
I find that with a 433, slightly shorter passing and slightly higher tempo work. Your team will try to keep possession of the ball so you're not bypassing the treq with long balls, but the higher tempo can still help you be more purposeful in trying to score a goal. A 442, similar instructions would work. I also like a more direct passing style with this formation. If you have your treq as one of the strikers, the direct passing style could get it to him faster and let him do his thing
Can you please share the last formation (4-4-2 Diamond) tactics. It's pretty similar to what I play with, would love to try your version !! Cheers brother. Love the explanations. I would love to play Bellingham as trequartista.
Sure, and thank you for the correction on the formation! Not sure why I called it a 4312, you are totally correct in that it's a diamond. If you pause the video on the shot with the tactics, I included the team instructions as well. But just in case (it may be hard to read), here's what I'm using: Two advanced forwards Treq in the middle Carrilero (s) / Mezzala (a) in the central Halfback in the DM WB(a) on the left / WB (s) on the right 1 BPD 1 CD team instructions: balanced mentality shorter passing play out of defense slightly higher tempo higher line / higher press close down slightly more often No individual player instructions. Hope that helps!
loved the video but i have a question outside of that, can you tell me the difference between the anchor man and the half back? always loved your channel, thanks for the content
Thank you and glad you're enjoying the videos! For your question, an Anchor Man is a traditional DM and sits in the defensive midfield area where he holds his position in front of the backline to provide defensive cover. A half back is usually used with a back four and when you have the ball, he'll drop into the defensive backline to create a back-3 formation. They're pretty similar in that they're both holding defensive midfielders, they don't take a lot of risks, and they're great for providing defensive cover if you have a bunch of aggressive roles up top. I should (hopefully) have some videos on these two in the somewhat near future, but hopefully that helps a little!
And here I am, playing a trequartista with stats well below this in Ekstraklasa. Would you say that this is a role you should not use in weaker leagues?
Hmm it's tricky. To be honest, I would say in this video I probably went a little too far with saying the trequartista can't be played in lower leagues, but I think there actually is a Current Ability floor in the game to where your assistant manager won't recommend the role unless they're a certain skill level. How is the role working out for you? I generally don't use the role if I'm in the lower league, but that's not to say it would never work
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker so far it's good. I started as unemployed with no experience and the lowest licence and I'm clawing my way up jumping clubs, so I'm facing quite different challenges than most channels discuss (weirdly I never coached Premiership club in FM). Point is, I use what I find at the club most of the time. In my current club I play an asymmetric 5-2-2-1, with Libero on support (who works amazing and is way more aggressive than I anticipated). The Trequartista (One of my two transfers, 21 yo) occupies the central AM spot, offset to the left a bit. I tried to give him space to operate in, so he is surrounded by the AF in front and BWM-D behind him. There is an IW/IF/W on the right wing (depending on which player is healthy, I'm looking for a transfer for that position). In possession wingbacks provide width (left one is more attacking), and Segundo Volante and aforementioned Libero move up. He scored 7 goals and 2 assists in 15 games, which places him in top 10 scorers of the league. I could play him as AP, but in FM 24 a lot of teams play with 1-2 DMs and I'm afraid that forcing actions through that area will hurt more than it would help. Maybe I'll try out AM or SS after watching your explanation of the role. Overall, with just 3 offensive players I wanted a mobile role to roam into free spaces and provide a scoring threat as well as distribute ball.
Yea if it's working, than keep at it! I like the shadow striker with the advanced forward, little easier to "predict" what he's going to do compared with the treq. But 7 goals in 15 games is excellent production; sometimes the fact that the treq wanders can be good like you say for those 2DM systems you're facing
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker perhaps it's due to me managing only relatively small clubs (i.e. not super rich and famous initially) but my playstyle is buying good and promising players when I can and tweaking tactics to fit them in, not looking for players for very specific roles, so I'll probably test quite a few things before I jump to a different club.
I am currently playing a 3421with a DLP and DM in the midfield two, and an AM on attack and an AP on support with a DLF on attack. After watching this I am thinking of changing the AP to a Trequartista because I have Samardzic that used to play Regista but had more impact further up the pitch and is by far my standout player at Udinese. On the AP side my wingback is on attack to provide passing outlets. If I were to turn him into a trequartista, should I change the striker role too?
I would change the treq first, and then keep watching on how the treq and the striker interact with each other. It's easier to see the impact of one role on another when only one of them has changed
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Fair enough, I tried it a couple of games and Samardzic looks like the real deal as a trequartista, definitely give him a look as he's one of the only young players that is at a smallish club that has almost all of the attributes required and plenty of room to improve!
@@meesterpitta sounds like a real winner! thanks for the recommendation, I'll check out out.Though it's rare, being able to find a gem like that can transform your team haha. Especially for a young player thanks again! and keep me updated on the tactic and if you're able to get him going
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker A little update now Samardzic has been playing as a trequartista for about half a season: It's working incredibly. He has become a key pass monster, pops up wherever he feels like he wants to and scores some crazy goals. I might make the move to a bigger team and will definitely bring him with me
I'd probably use him as a shadow striker or an attacking midfielder (attack). Some of the mentals are low for a trequartista, but his speed and mixture of technical attributes make him great for a SS or AM
Bellingham fits your category of having nothing less than 14. But I guess you didnt talk about him because he is also realy good in other Roles and kind of looses his qualities in terms of pressing while playing him as a trquartista.
That'd be a great idea to try Bellingham at a treq! I don't think I tried it with him but I'm sure he'd be great at it. Not to spoil my other video, but I talk about Bellingham in the role guide for the Roaming Playmaker if you'd like to see how I use him
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I think I have already seen it. I would say to playing him as you did is probably better, because it uses all strengths of bellingham.
thank you for the correction! I had mispoke/mislabeled when I was making the video. I think I had another formation on the brain when I was working on it haha
great call; I always try to find player examples but I somehow forgot about Mbappe??? anyway thanks for the addition, hopefully people scrolling through the comments can see this to get some more player ideas
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I just found you out (about 2 weeks ago) and if there's something I actually enjoy I this videos is the part where you pick the "best" player to describe how the position works. For this one I thought "that's Messi", but was expecting Bernardo or Foden to be mentioned, but I'm not sure if their stats reflect this position. Nevertheless, let me just say I'm really enjoying this series and, even tho I might not use them, I like to learn how other positions work from you. Cheers mate
@@tiagosacramento4855 I really appreciate the support, thank you! And thank you for the feedback, I'll see about incoporating more player stuff in future videos. For a quick side note on the player examples, I think that's always the most fun but toughest part of making these videos. I try to pick a wide range, or maybe show lower league teams, but inevitably when I show world class players there are so many examples that's it's tough to show the perfect one (except maybe Messi lol.) Anyway, thanks again!
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I love using a Trequartista as a lone striker with two wide players moving into the space that he opens up, when he drops back and draws the CB's with him. It is a great way to create a fake strikerless system with him creating a midfield diamond by dropping back. The only thing I find a bit sad is that every player who can really play in that role is basically a CF. Still, Trequartista and Target Forward are by far my favourite roles for strikers.
Great idea for the formation/use of the role. I think my love of the #10 (kinda like what I talked about in the video) means I miss out on trying some other formations that could really be effective. Thanks for the addition, hopefully other people see this and try out it out
Could be interesting to look up Francesco Totti in FM during his prime for the lone forward Trequartista. Think he would fit the role perfectly as well.
aesthetically this is the best channel on youtube. elite talent
thank you very much, that means a lot!
he's got great info, is concise rather than dragging things out 30+ min, and well spoken while not being boring. it's fantastic.
@@maxwellmeyer6482 seriously thank you, really glad you guys have been enjoying the videos! As for the format, I try to get to the point quickly haha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I just wanted to say I agree with the folks above. As someone that is sensitive to sounds the chill nature of your videos is amazing. The vaporwave vhs menu is right up my alley as well.
Seriously, please keep the vibes regardless of what content you do!
@@CombatJuicebox I'm very introverted by nature so the laid back nature suits me 😆😆
And I'm happy that the chill sounds help out! I know that sometimes sudden, loud sounds can be aggravating for a viewer so that's why I don't do like "pop/chime" noises whenever a marker comes on the screen or something.
For the VHS stuff, that's what I grew up with during the 80s/90s so it was right up my alley haha. Glad you're enjoying!
Very usefull, you should explain roles that most people (on the FM world) dont understand yet like raumdeter or wide target man, I think you can do this because every video has examples and very well presented tactics breakdowns, here you have a suscriber.
Cheers, keep it up!
thank you!
My favourite role in FM, was so happy when they allowed it in the AM wide spots. I use in 433 variants, 4231 variants & 442 formations.
Just waiting on Mezzalla to be available in the ML & MR spots... Tuck inside when ball on opp side, move into channels when on ball side (each year I wait)
Now a mezzala in those midfield spots... that would be awesome haha
I think the IW does that when he doesn't have a CM or DM role forcing a positional rotation (SV, RPM, BBM, AP, CMa, MEZ)
I agree the Trequartista (TQ) excels in the "No. 10" role. Using him as a striker or on the flanks requires more physical skills, but in the No. 10 position, he is supported by both the midfield and strikers. IMHO his main function is to find and exploit space (Anticipation, Decisions, Off the Ball), with creativity being secondary. Given it's almost impossible to find a Messi, I prioritize technique, movement, and balance over pace and acceleration.
I use him in a 4-2DM-3-1 formation, behind a Pressing Forward who, along with the wingers, handles the pressing (high Workrate and Stamina). This setup lets the TQ roam and find space when we gain possession. I've found penetrating space is crucial, and even 'mediocre' players overperform due to this ability.
Key Player Traits: Move Into Channels, Get Into Opposition Area (if a decent finisher or good in the air), Plays One-Twos, and Dictates Tempo (if a decent creator, helps with refining your team's pace of Counter-attacks if GeggenPressing/ fast paced Vertical Tiki-Taka). I avoid "Gets Forward Whenever Possible" since he connects the defensive midfield with the attack. There are so many parameters and combinations to consider.😃
TREQUATISTA FUCK YEAAAAAAA!!!!!! I have been waiting for an explanation for months. Thanks man
not a bad start to the morning I guess!! thanks for the patience while I got it together haha
Trequartista and Compleate Wing Back on attack are easily my favourite roles!
Two great ones for sure
Thank you man I've never used that role but I'll keep an eye out for a Trequartistta newgen
I don't use it a ton, but mostly because my threshold for the role is very high haha
Great video, would love to see you do an fm playthrough.
Another great role explanation thank you Sir!
Ah as a football romantic love the trequartista - the heartthrob of the midfield, the elusive artist with a killer touch. Imagine this:
The game throbs with energy, a dance between two teams. Your forwards are the dazzling strikers, the ones who steal the spotlight with breathtaking goals. But who sets the stage for their brilliance? Enter the trequartista.
Playing in that sweet spot, the three-quarter zone of the pitch, they are the midfield maestro. They see the entire game unfold like a symphony, weaving through defenders with balletic grace. Their passes are like whispered promises, finding their target with pinpoint precision.
The trequartista isn't about brute force or thunderous strikes. They are the puppeteer, the one who pulls the strings from the shadows. A delicate touch, a feathery pass that splits the defense like a sigh - that's the trequartista's magic.
They are the embodiment of the beautiful game, the architect behind the symphony of goals. They may not always be the ones in the limelight, but their influence is undeniable. Theirs is a love letter written in passes, a silent promise that ignites the fire in the forwards' hearts.
So, the next time you witness a game, keep an eye out for the trequartista - the one who conducts the attack, the silent magician weaving his web of creativity. They are the soul of the midfield, the artist whose brushstrokes paint victory on the canvas of the pitch.
Legend:
-Francesco Totti
other Legends:
-Riquelme
-Ozil
-Aimar
Current legend:
-Dybala
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-Messi - But see him more as a false 9
PS hoping we see a sweeping keeper explanation also in any of the upcoming role explanations 🙏
If you can't be romantic about the trequartista, what else is there??
So, in my recent save in FM23 with Roma, i started using the Trequartista in the left in my 4-3-3 because i had a great young german newgen that i think is perfect for the role and that is evolving at a fast rate and has almost all important stats in 15 or above. The interesting thing is that, he´s doing pretty good at the role but.... I hired Velasco at the start of the season as a free contract from Man City and... he was the sub... untill he started playing like prime Messi in the Trequartista xD the only stat he has higher than 15 is the dribbling and my man stated smashing everyone, mid of the season he has like 15 goals and 10 assists playing serie A and UCL against Top teams and being the best player consistently, he has like 20 Appearences and some more from the bench and hes average rating is like 7,20 all competitions and 7,30 in Serie A, with some higher than 8,00 matches... Hes just a 13-14 attribute average stats in the key attributes and he even has just 12 passing and 15 vision and makes prime Messi passes xD
I think the Trequartista role is pretty special, even when you use it with someone that is not Messi level, for sure that level would be insane, and i at some point will make a player in the editor with Prime Messi stats to see what i can get out of the Trequartista role and see if i can reach Prime Real Life Messi stats ahahahhaah but the role is just insanity, i love it so much, and my Velasco is loving it too, just average Serie A player destroying UCL level teams is fun man xD
Love that story!! Thanks for; that's one of the best parts about playing FM. And my favorite part about the Treq is you don't know where he's going to go so the defense sure as heck doesn't know where to go haha. But when he gets the ball you know something amazing could happen
Hey man. Just wanted to drop a line. Loving these position tutorials. I've been playing for a few years now, but these have had me trying different roles in tactics. Thank you.
thank you, glad you've been enjoying them!
I remember in real life, Trequartista was popular in Italy in the 2000 to 2010, in Kaka (Milan) and later in Wesley Sneijder (Inter). In 2009/2010, Mourinho unlock Sneijder in league tactic 4-1-2-1-2 (diamond mid), having absolute freedom behind Diego Milito (playing as a DLF-A) and Samuel Etoo (playing as AF), and using a classic 4-2-3-1 in Champions League games, where Sneijder was playing the Trequartista role, but hybrid one, from CM position (simultaneously beeing CM-A, and Trequartista), roaming and going in spaces, that Milito opened playing as a lone striker (DLF-A). Also Don Carlo used Kaka in similar way in his Milan 4-1-2-1-2 (diamond), having a BWM in Gatuso, DLP in Pirlo, and in front of him Shevchenko (AF) and Filippo Inzaghi (Poacher). Today in real life this role sadly is not in use so much, because this role has absolute freedom to roam, which Pep kid of killed it.
Great recount of the role. Here in the states, we didn't have really have any access to watch European football matches (outside maybe the occasional Premier league match) until maybe 10~ years ago. So I missed out on a lot of those classic early 2000's teams and players. Thanks for sharing because I always love to read about classic tactics, teams, and players
another wonderfully made video, love this kind of analysis.
Argentinian DYBALA was working fine for me. I noticed in that role more experienced or older players are more suitable.
Great call on Dybala. Whenever I look for player examples, there's always a player I forget about who I really should've talked about; I think I should've talked about Dybala but we may have to wait for "Trequartista: The Sequel" video for that one hahaha
And this role reminds me a lot of the complete forward; like you say generally its the older players that fit best
Hey man this role has often escaped me at times but when you emphasised the fact that the player type in question has to be a Messi Level player which is hard to find😅, thus I realise I have misprofiled the role quite often by playing a player not even close. I wanted to experiment with Havertz at Arsenal in my current save but I'd rather use a different role like CM (a) in midfield or a DLF upfront
It's a tough role to fill, that's for sure! I think we've all tried to make this role work with players who aren't qualified hahaha. I'd try Havertz in the CM(A) role; that's an absolutely brilliant role, especially like you say combined with a DLF.
Great video man, really enjoying the series.
thank you!
Oh wow. This has to be the best one yet.
thank you! I wasn't sure if it was a little too ....Messi heavy hahaha
Great video! I agree the description when it comes to defensive duties is exaggerated. Trequartista do their dirty job on defense, they are just more focused on counter attack. And if you really believe that's an issue, set him on man marking
And work rate adds to that as well; if you have a player with low work rate, they're going to be tougher to have mark their man no matter what role you choose
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker correct: there are lazy people, not lazy roles. Off topic: do you know where you can see a player's favourite role? I know the concept exists, but I cannot find it in the standard skin
I actually don't for the standard skin; I just looked by couldn't find it. There were rumblings on the forums about it being a "column" you can add in the squad view but I couldn't find it.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker exactly, I can only see it sometimes if the player ask it for a new contract or in the pre-match screen, but just sometimes. That's very stupid, a player's favourite role should be a very important part of the game. And maybe it is and we just don't know
I had a winger with lots of creativity, passing, and dribbling, who could shoot and cross but wasn't as good at either as he was at creating with the ball. I used him as a wide treq. The nice thing is that it doesn't require pace, so an older winger with those stats can be used in the role as effectively as a younger faster winger. Essentially, his role allows him to come super deep to receive the ball, and then distribute or progress the ball as he sees fit. Since he got older, I adjusted his roles specifically to have him hold up the ball and cross from deep, and I actually saw an increase in his assists from that. Essentially, he can find a hole between the midfield and the back line, receive and draw out a CB with his progressive carry, and then slot the ball in the path of the striker as soon as the CB jumps. It's especially effective against 4-2-3-1. I consider it a combination between Messi and Grealish- you want him to get the ball and draw as many defenders as you can, so that he can find someone who is free in space.
Great addition to the role, thanks! I also hate using absolutes in my video, like saying only one type of player will work (I think I maybe went too far in this one on that hahaha), because there are so many stories like yours way you're able to craft the role to your player and have success (even if someone like me alludes that you may not have it)
Very instrucive as always, thank you :) i'll wait for the perfect offensive midfielder hehe
no problem, glad you liked it and thank you for the support!
I played a Wolves save a fair few years back and played Diogo Jota as a Trequartista....he was amazing at it, but his attributes were insane in that save.
Wolves secretely had some really top rated FM players. Felt like Ruben Neves turned into a world class player in every version
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker He really did. He was one of my favourite players on FM. I always wanted Man Utd to sign him irl!
I learned about something the treq which if you have a creator that has low positioning but has attributes of a creator then you fit him into a treq as the game says about positioning positioning used to describe the defensive positioning of a player and not the actual offensive positioning so a player with low positioning but has great stats at being a creator or potential growth into a creator can be used as a trequart
that's a great tip thanks!! That's a good way to fit other players into a role maybe you don't think about him in
6:28 Thats why hes the GOAT 🐐
Undisputed!
In my FM23 save, I have a creative winger (Yeremy Pino) who I want to give the most creative freedom too, but he can't shoot to save his life
❤❤❤my facourite role in fm
Great video series
Thank you!
Never thought of him a anything other than my 10, I have Benjamin Cremaschi in my Watford save and he's developed into quite a good Treq, can play CM, AM, W and ST as well so could fit into all roles, what team instructions would you have for the 442 and 433?
I find that with a 433, slightly shorter passing and slightly higher tempo work. Your team will try to keep possession of the ball so you're not bypassing the treq with long balls, but the higher tempo can still help you be more purposeful in trying to score a goal.
A 442, similar instructions would work. I also like a more direct passing style with this formation. If you have your treq as one of the strikers, the direct passing style could get it to him faster and let him do his thing
Thanks again
Always welcome
The maverick role, must handle with care! 😂
very true, extreme care haha
Can you please share the last formation (4-4-2 Diamond) tactics. It's pretty similar to what I play with, would love to try your version !! Cheers brother. Love the explanations. I would love to play Bellingham as trequartista.
Sure, and thank you for the correction on the formation! Not sure why I called it a 4312, you are totally correct in that it's a diamond. If you pause the video on the shot with the tactics, I included the team instructions as well. But just in case (it may be hard to read), here's what I'm using:
Two advanced forwards
Treq in the middle
Carrilero (s) / Mezzala (a) in the central
Halfback in the DM
WB(a) on the left / WB (s) on the right
1 BPD
1 CD
team instructions:
balanced mentality
shorter passing
play out of defense
slightly higher tempo
higher line / higher press
close down slightly more often
No individual player instructions.
Hope that helps!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Appreciate it brother. Great aesthetic content for FM. Waiting for future videos. 💪🏻🔥
loved the video but i have a question outside of that, can you tell me the difference between the anchor man and the half back? always loved your channel, thanks for the content
Thank you and glad you're enjoying the videos! For your question, an Anchor Man is a traditional DM and sits in the defensive midfield area where he holds his position in front of the backline to provide defensive cover. A half back is usually used with a back four and when you have the ball, he'll drop into the defensive backline to create a back-3 formation.
They're pretty similar in that they're both holding defensive midfielders, they don't take a lot of risks, and they're great for providing defensive cover if you have a bunch of aggressive roles up top. I should (hopefully) have some videos on these two in the somewhat near future, but hopefully that helps a little!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker thank you!!!
Would this also work in a 5-2-1-2 with complete wingbacks and what striking options would you use in this formation?
2 best player that can play the trequartista
1. Messi
2. Neymar
end of list
I think Neymar and Musiala are good examples of Trequartista
The timeless player role
trequartistas also work in lower leagues
Salah makes a great Trequartista!
Great call! He's an unerrated player to be in that attacking midfield area
what is your team ins. for 4-4-2 diamond? :d
You mentioned kdb, Bruno would be better suited to a different role. What role would that be?
KDB would be a mezzala in a 433, and Bruno probably a shadow striker in a 4231
And here I am, playing a trequartista with stats well below this in Ekstraklasa. Would you say that this is a role you should not use in weaker leagues?
Hmm it's tricky. To be honest, I would say in this video I probably went a little too far with saying the trequartista can't be played in lower leagues, but I think there actually is a Current Ability floor in the game to where your assistant manager won't recommend the role unless they're a certain skill level. How is the role working out for you? I generally don't use the role if I'm in the lower league, but that's not to say it would never work
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker so far it's good. I started as unemployed with no experience and the lowest licence and I'm clawing my way up jumping clubs, so I'm facing quite different challenges than most channels discuss (weirdly I never coached Premiership club in FM). Point is, I use what I find at the club most of the time.
In my current club I play an asymmetric 5-2-2-1, with Libero on support (who works amazing and is way more aggressive than I anticipated). The Trequartista (One of my two transfers, 21 yo) occupies the central AM spot, offset to the left a bit. I tried to give him space to operate in, so he is surrounded by the AF in front and BWM-D behind him. There is an IW/IF/W on the right wing (depending on which player is healthy, I'm looking for a transfer for that position). In possession wingbacks provide width (left one is more attacking), and Segundo Volante and aforementioned Libero move up.
He scored 7 goals and 2 assists in 15 games, which places him in top 10 scorers of the league.
I could play him as AP, but in FM 24 a lot of teams play with 1-2 DMs and I'm afraid that forcing actions through that area will hurt more than it would help. Maybe I'll try out AM or SS after watching your explanation of the role. Overall, with just 3 offensive players I wanted a mobile role to roam into free spaces and provide a scoring threat as well as distribute ball.
Yea if it's working, than keep at it! I like the shadow striker with the advanced forward, little easier to "predict" what he's going to do compared with the treq. But 7 goals in 15 games is excellent production; sometimes the fact that the treq wanders can be good like you say for those 2DM systems you're facing
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker perhaps it's due to me managing only relatively small clubs (i.e. not super rich and famous initially) but my playstyle is buying good and promising players when I can and tweaking tactics to fit them in, not looking for players for very specific roles, so I'll probably test quite a few things before I jump to a different club.
I am currently playing a 3421with a DLP and DM in the midfield two, and an AM on attack and an AP on support with a DLF on attack. After watching this I am thinking of changing the AP to a Trequartista because I have Samardzic that used to play Regista but had more impact further up the pitch and is by far my standout player at Udinese. On the AP side my wingback is on attack to provide passing outlets.
If I were to turn him into a trequartista, should I change the striker role too?
I would change the treq first, and then keep watching on how the treq and the striker interact with each other. It's easier to see the impact of one role on another when only one of them has changed
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Fair enough, I tried it a couple of games and Samardzic looks like the real deal as a trequartista, definitely give him a look as he's one of the only young players that is at a smallish club that has almost all of the attributes required and plenty of room to improve!
@@meesterpitta sounds like a real winner! thanks for the recommendation, I'll check out out.Though it's rare, being able to find a gem like that can transform your team haha. Especially for a young player
thanks again! and keep me updated on the tactic and if you're able to get him going
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker A little update now Samardzic has been playing as a trequartista for about half a season: It's working incredibly. He has become a key pass monster, pops up wherever he feels like he wants to and scores some crazy goals. I might make the move to a bigger team and will definitely bring him with me
Would Rafa Silva be a good trequartista?
I'd probably use him as a shadow striker or an attacking midfielder (attack). Some of the mentals are low for a trequartista, but his speed and mixture of technical attributes make him great for a SS or AM
Can i use it for Kylian mbappe, as a lone no. 9?
Yea, you should see some sucess with him in that position! I probably should've mentioned him in the video lol, but thank you for the question
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker thank you, i appreciate it
Bellingham fits your category of having nothing less than 14. But I guess you didnt talk about him because he is also realy good in other Roles and kind of looses his qualities in terms of pressing while playing him as a trquartista.
That'd be a great idea to try Bellingham at a treq! I don't think I tried it with him but I'm sure he'd be great at it. Not to spoil my other video, but I talk about Bellingham in the role guide for the Roaming Playmaker if you'd like to see how I use him
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I think I have already seen it. I would say to playing him as you did is probably better, because it uses all strengths of bellingham.
Thats a 4-1-2-1-2, 4-3-1-2 would have 3 central mids
thank you for the correction! I had mispoke/mislabeled when I was making the video. I think I had another formation on the brain when I was working on it haha
Mbappe would have made a good example
great call; I always try to find player examples but I somehow forgot about Mbappe??? anyway thanks for the addition, hopefully people scrolling through the comments can see this to get some more player ideas
That's not a 4-3-1-2, that's a 4-2-2 diamond midfield 😂
dang you're totally right hahaha... not sure why I thought that. I think I still had 433 on the brain lol
Spoilers out of context
Messi FM24 Role Guide
As I was making this I was like, is this too much Messi??? Then I continued on for 5 more minutes and I guess we have our answer hahaha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I just found you out (about 2 weeks ago) and if there's something I actually enjoy I this videos is the part where you pick the "best" player to describe how the position works. For this one I thought "that's Messi", but was expecting Bernardo or Foden to be mentioned, but I'm not sure if their stats reflect this position.
Nevertheless, let me just say I'm really enjoying this series and, even tho I might not use them, I like to learn how other positions work from you.
Cheers mate
@@tiagosacramento4855 I really appreciate the support, thank you! And thank you for the feedback, I'll see about incoporating more player stuff in future videos.
For a quick side note on the player examples, I think that's always the most fun but toughest part of making these videos. I try to pick a wide range, or maybe show lower league teams, but inevitably when I show world class players there are so many examples that's it's tough to show the perfect one (except maybe Messi lol.) Anyway, thanks again!
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I have a love affair with Trequartistas.
Any player instructions on that 442 diamond narrow?
Nope, no player instructions! Just those handful of team instructions