Joel is very strong in the first game of the franchise, and in addition, he is strong even in the fists. As for Ellie, she uses a knife to protect herself as she is not as physically strong as Joel! So Joel would beat her!
It’s a grown as man who has killed people since it started vs a skinny girl who has combat skills but is smaller and younger and not fully developed probably maybe in the second one but still she is still pretty small
Ellie too in Santa Barbara Not only she survived despite bleeding and hanged face down for who knows how long, but she was also able to kill two Rattles with the open wound, survived long enough to close it herself, and even though it reopened she was able to fight hand to hand with Abby (a malnourished and dying Abby, but still was able to fight hand to hand with a wound similar to Joel's, that almost killed him despite being taken care of by Ellie, and that in a few minutes left him unconscious for several days)
@@br0dyj08n9 just before reaching the Rattlers' main base and unintentionally freeing the prisoners, in a cinematic, the camera focuses on her wound, implying that it opened, and later she holds it with pain until the final fight with Abby.
Ellie wasn’t stabbed all the way through her body. That’s why she could barely walk it off but JOEL Took a entire rod through his body at full speed. That’s why Joel was weak and unconscious for weeks.
What happens when a man who's been fighting all his life settles into a calm neighbourhood where he has a family. he's going to become a lot more relaxed. its more realistic that he isn't still how he was in his prime ig
@@pielseassycis8711 that makes no sense cuz he still had to be on edge when he went out for patrols etc right? he only settled in jackson and opened up to a few people, he didnt loose all survival instincts. they dumbed him down in part 2
Well obviously, Joel is a full grown man who had prior combat experience. Ellie is a young female with a pocket knife due to her lack of strength but she can be pretty dangerous when sneaking around
Lemme try Strength= Joel Speed= ellie Durability= Joel Iq= ellie Battle iq= Joel Combat= Joel Skill= Joel Power= Joel Hax= Joel Agility= ellie Combat speed= ellie Travel speed= ellie Stealth= ellie Offense= Joel Defense= ellie can actually dodge Exp= joel Feats= joel Endurance= ellie Ap= Joel Dc= ellie we've seen her fuck some shit up more Winner 11-8Joel wins high to extreme diff It's a close fight. If ellie can sneak up on him then maybe. She has better guns to one shot him. Joel can just bash her brains in as sad as it is to say since I love them both. If it's a 1v1 cqc then Joel would win. Ellie can dodge and has a knife that would mess Joel up. But Joel is more skilled and has weight and height on her. Joel is the better marksman. Even tho ellie has better guns. Joel is more skilled with his
Bro in TLOU 1 when im fighting easy infetecs or militars or bandits ellie gives me a medkid but when im fighting with hard things like with a boss ellie dont even looks at me
@Log-Edits Glad to hear . I'm sure you played the game , Joel is the guy that would mostly know everything, Ellie is the type that is curious about everything. She ain't stupid really , but a dumb smart person if that makes sense 😆 they show you how Joel used to find ways to overcome obstacles whether it was under water or heights , always was the problem solver , not Ellie , she would just curse
IQ and speed, and endurance go to Joel Ellie gets tired very quickly, and Joel doesn't besides that he is faster than Abby and Ellie, at least running.
Ellie killed a lot of men and infected, solved the puzzles in the mall when she was finding med stuff for Joel all of this at the age of 14. Can evade dogs' attack like Flash, used plastic bottles as silencers when there's plenty of it scattered in Part 1, and knows how to use her switchblade like a prodigy
@@Average_Edits_ Joel is much older and wiser and has more experience in battle while Ellie is more young reckless and not nearly as experienced as Joel
Personally, I think Joel is more brutal cuz those fists of his can hit like a truck and he’s colder and not as remorseful as Ellie. Joel’s more battle hardened than her since he’s killed and crossed more people for 20 years, more than Ellie and Abby have killed combined
Ellie is a little monster. Her rampages are terrifying. Also for some reason taking on clickers as Joel in part 1 is so much more stressful that dealing with them in part 2 as Ellie.
Combat does go to both i would say, i mean joel took down a bloater with just a machete and ellie managed to stay alive without getting her jaw ripped off
Joel would win I think, unless Ellie used am ambush attack or somehow managed to quickly dodge his hits. I like both these characters. Tbh Joel dying ruined the experience of the game for me. He was my favorite character. I know that Ellie is the main protagonist bc she's the only "immune" person in the apocalypse, but she wouldn't have survived without Joel and been where she is now. The game is still awesome and I can't wait to watch the show and also a third game play if it'll ever happen but yeah, RIP Joel you'll never be forgotten
Joel has more strength and experience. He has great battle in and has more iq than Abby. Abby may be trained in combat but Joel over the years of surviving probably have seen enemy’s fighting moves. He easily beats Abby.
@@Average_Edits_ Well you can also argue her stealth skills come from joel. as He taught her the majority of what she knows. And i guess depending on the situation it can be more difficult Obviously if she spots him first and hunts him it will be difficult for joel but if its an even playing field and they stumble across eachother its not even a question. ellie whould need to strategize and have preptime.
Shoutout to pinkyyyyoo
Cool detail that Ellie uses a knife because she isn’t physically strong while big man Joel and Abby use their fists
Yea
@@Average_Edits_ Nahh In my Opinion Abby Is a Walking Transgender 😂
@@Humanbeing30045 she’s trans and she doesn’t know it
No she uses a knife for efficiency, less risk of being bitten cuz it’s a quicker kill
@@sharky710_ yep
Facts
joel can also sense through walls in the game
So can Ellie but Joel wins
Ellie and Abby too
@@Average_Edits_ Ellie can do it but we can’t sense through walls that good with Ellie, with Joel is better
That’s called listen mode it’s available for every character
@@taskforce141gjoel has been in the outbreak longer than ellie has been alive
Joel faces 💀
Ellies face tho 💀
Joel gets IQ
Yes I have changed that in my remake of this video.
@DreadCrystal S fr Ellie learned from his mistakes
And speed. Hes a man and men are faster than women even with his extra size. He especially gets combat speed.
Fr bro naughty dog made Joel faster than Ellie in tlou2 and 1
Joel>>
Joel is very strong in the first game of the franchise, and in addition, he is strong even in the fists. As for Ellie, she uses a knife to protect herself as she is not as physically strong as Joel! So Joel would beat her!
I mean it’s like a experienced 200 lb man vs a 14-19 year old girl (depending on timeframe) it’s not much of a competition lmfao
It’s a grown as man who has killed people since it started vs a skinny girl who has combat skills but is smaller and younger and not fully developed probably maybe in the second one but still she is still pretty small
Endurance goes to Joel, took a rod through is stomach and walked it off
Ellie too in Santa Barbara
Not only she survived despite bleeding and hanged face down for who knows how long, but she was also able to kill two Rattles with the open wound, survived long enough to close it herself, and even though it reopened she was able to fight hand to hand with Abby (a malnourished and dying Abby, but still was able to fight hand to hand with a wound similar to Joel's, that almost killed him despite being taken care of by Ellie, and that in a few minutes left him unconscious for several days)
He certainly did not just walk it off he was literally unable to do anything for weeks
@@nekolarewhen did her wound reopen?
@@br0dyj08n9 just before reaching the Rattlers' main base and unintentionally freeing the prisoners, in a cinematic, the camera focuses on her wound, implying that it opened, and later she holds it with pain until the final fight with Abby.
Ellie wasn’t stabbed all the way through her body. That’s why she could barely walk it off but JOEL Took a entire rod through his body at full speed. That’s why Joel was weak and unconscious for weeks.
IQ Joel, sabe más que Ellie y se demuestra en el primer jeugo
Honestly, I wouldn't say either of them particularly stand out when it comes to IQ
IQ это не знания братан, IQ это показатель интеллекта
tu sabes lo q significa IQ?
JOEL WINS SEMPRE
Ellie 🥰☺️
Let's go to placar.
Strength: Joel.
Durability: Joel.
Combat: Joel.
Battle IQ: Joel.
Experience: Joel.
Knowledge: Joel.
Endurance: =.
IQ: Ellie.
Speed: Ellie.
Agility: Ellie.
Utility: =.
Stealth: Ellie.
Joel Wins!
Mid Diff.
Nice!
I remember joel told ellie to not to let her guard down in pt 1 , then he let his guard down in pt 2 , ironic
What happens when a man who's been fighting all his life settles into a calm neighbourhood where he has a family. he's going to become a lot more relaxed. its more realistic that he isn't still how he was in his prime ig
No shit writing killed Joel
Bad writing killed Joel that’s what happens when you let a guy named Neil Cuckman write a video game
@@pielseassycis8711 Not a good excuse you don’t just lose your survival instincts that fast bad writing killed Joel plain and simple
@@pielseassycis8711 that makes no sense cuz he still had to be on edge when he went out for patrols etc right? he only settled in jackson and opened up to a few people, he didnt loose all survival instincts. they dumbed him down in part 2
Joel's face is from the part where he talks to Marlin
Daddy is always daddy👿
Ofc
Well obviously, Joel is a full grown man who had prior combat experience. Ellie is a young female with a pocket knife due to her lack of strength but she can be pretty dangerous when sneaking around
Lemme try
Strength= Joel
Speed= ellie
Durability= Joel
Iq= ellie
Battle iq= Joel
Combat= Joel
Skill= Joel
Power= Joel
Hax= Joel
Agility= ellie
Combat speed= ellie
Travel speed= ellie
Stealth= ellie
Offense= Joel
Defense= ellie can actually dodge
Exp= joel
Feats= joel
Endurance= ellie
Ap= Joel
Dc= ellie we've seen her fuck some shit up more
Winner 11-8Joel wins high to extreme diff
It's a close fight. If ellie can sneak up on him then maybe. She has better guns to one shot him. Joel can just bash her brains in as sad as it is to say since I love them both. If it's a 1v1 cqc then Joel would win. Ellie can dodge and has a knife that would mess Joel up. But Joel is more skilled and has weight and height on her. Joel is the better marksman. Even tho ellie has better guns. Joel is more skilled with his
Whats ap and dc
@@ronnygaming25 Ap is attack potency and DC is destructive capability
Can you do Tommy VS Joel please
Yessir
@@Average_Edits_ AWESOME thank you
@@cinderfall1396 It’s ready!
@@Average_Edits_ Just watched it , great work 👍
I still can’t believe they killed Joel
“I taught you everything you know. I didn’t teach you everything I KNOW.”
Joel Beyond Neg Diff Anyone in any game franchise can beat Ellie
I don't like or want to see them fight,they could never hurt each other and are like father and daughter,they are family,nice edit though
Yesss
Yea true
True
Honestly don’t compare them they need each other
Joel and Ellie are an unstoppable, inseparable duo.💪
Abby has joined the chat 😂
Joel 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Bro in TLOU 1 when im fighting easy infetecs or militars or bandits ellie gives me a medkid but when im fighting with hard things like with a boss ellie dont even looks at me
Joel 😊❤
This is how you gonna repay me huh? all those goddamn times I took care of us. YOU SURVIVE BECAUSE OF ME!
battle between nature vs nurture
Ig stealth goes to joel. He literally sneaks up from behind on humans and infected and chokes them both to death meanwhile ellie uses a knife
Ellie is so strong tho, killed manu rattlers while being injured, she has the ability to dodge, she is also very smart.
They did my boy dirty giving him a Walmart dollar store 711 Glenn death from some roided out chick with a golf club 😭
You could’ve changed the title to: Teenage girl with plot armor vs weirdly op old man
Ellies face tho 💀
Ellie is op for her age
If she stood alive she could be as strong as joel
Facts although I’d probable say mid-high diff
The cool detail in tlou 2 is ellie that cant use the knife in the final
Joel
Joel wins low diff
The only points Ellie gets is speed and agility
No he cannot win, because joel love ellie as much as sarah
@@kanokiwashitori452 That doesn’t mean he loses and Ellie loves Joel too.
IQ is definitely Joel 🤦🏻♂️ Ellie was shown a lot of times as stupid in the game , and everything that was smart came from those who taught her
There is a remake
@Log-Edits Glad to hear . I'm sure you played the game , Joel is the guy that would mostly know everything, Ellie is the type that is curious about everything. She ain't stupid really , but a dumb smart person if that makes sense 😆 they show you how Joel used to find ways to overcome obstacles whether it was under water or heights , always was the problem solver , not Ellie , she would just curse
SI JOEL SE ENFRENTARA A TODO THE LASFT 1 I 2 EL GANARIA CON DIFICULTAD EXTREMA PERO SI ES CUERPO A CUERPO
Joel wins in durability?
I mean, he just resisted one fight with Abby and Ellie resisted two... And somehow make it out alive
*It's a joke*
Joel is a beast💀
IQ and speed, and endurance go to Joel Ellie gets tired very quickly, and Joel doesn't besides that he is faster than Abby and Ellie, at least running.
Friends don't fighting...
Ellie should've had also won the battle iq because she can disarm and evade enemies' complicated melee attacks.
Joel can counter attack enemies hold them hostage and was always coming up with the battle plans in part 1
Ellie killed a lot of men and infected, solved the puzzles in the mall when she was finding med stuff for Joel all of this at the age of 14.
Can evade dogs' attack like Flash, used plastic bottles as silencers when there's plenty of it scattered in Part 1, and knows how to use her switchblade like a prodigy
@@Average_Edits_ Joel is much older and wiser and has more experience in battle while Ellie is more young reckless and not nearly as experienced as Joel
@@asra6886 if the roles were swapped joel would probably be better at finding the medicine and taking care of ellie
@@asra6886 those are basically all gameplay elements from part 2 lol you can't compare it
Ellie has more intense altercations though more brutal and fast cause she’s smaller.
Personally, I think Joel is more brutal cuz those fists of his can hit like a truck and he’s colder and not as remorseful as Ellie. Joel’s more battle hardened than her since he’s killed and crossed more people for 20 years, more than Ellie and Abby have killed combined
At start I knew Joel was going to win 🏆 🤣
Nah bro, IQ goes to Joel
Ellie is a little monster. Her rampages are terrifying. Also for some reason taking on clickers as Joel in part 1 is so much more stressful that dealing with them in part 2 as Ellie.
I Mean you give durability to Joel yet Ellie's the only one still standing
I'd say they're equal in terms of intelligence
Should have added still alive
(Prime) Joel vs Abby (not tin and injured)
İq and endurance, joel… Low-mid diff
Y love The Last of us
Bloater vs tank!?
The student cannot beat the master
Combat does go to both i would say, i mean joel took down a bloater with just a machete and ellie managed to stay alive without getting her jaw ripped off
IQ go to Joel and agility
Depende que Joel y depende que Ellie porque se ven dos personalidades muy diferentes de los dos
Joel would win I think, unless Ellie used am ambush attack or somehow managed to quickly dodge his hits. I like both these characters. Tbh Joel dying ruined the experience of the game for me. He was my favorite character. I know that Ellie is the main protagonist bc she's the only "immune" person in the apocalypse, but she wouldn't have survived without Joel and been where she is now. The game is still awesome and I can't wait to watch the show and also a third game play if it'll ever happen but yeah, RIP Joel you'll never be forgotten
Hermano,yo me encariñe con Joel por que yo tambien perdi a mi hija,me dolio su muerte
Ellie learnt everything from joel
ima give durability to the alive one
Song?
Nice
Its like joel joel joel joel ellie ellie ellie ellie better make it joel joel ellie joel ellie ellie ellie joel its better to mix it up a bit
JOEL IS THE BEST
IQ -Joel.
pls can you do Ellie vs Dina?
Yes!
Bro is a construction worker and I have fought some. They could end the apocalypse with fists.
And btw Joel is not going to hurt Ellie anyway.
Ellie gets combat
A meu ver ,Ellie e o ponto fraco de Joel,poderia viver muito mais tempo se não precisa-se protegê-la.
Alive: ellie
It will always be Joel when it comes to Ellie btw what’s the song name?
(Suffer with me)
@AlloEdits ok tysm
@@zemiae np!
IQ-JOEL😊
Timing is off
No shit Sherlock.
Durability let's test this out Where's Abby I'll get the golf clubs
I think Joel and Abby are equally strong i might be wrong
Joel has more strength and experience. He has great battle in and has more iq than Abby. Abby may be trained in combat but Joel over the years of surviving probably have seen enemy’s fighting moves. He easily beats Abby.
Is that why abby needed 20 ppl to hold down joel at 60 years old, a shotgun, and golf club? Lol
Nah, Joel is far more stronger and more experienced
Joel would dystroy ellie
IQ Joel
Ellie iq ☠️
iq joel
Why would they fight?
IQ=Joel
IQ goes to Joel
Joel >>ellie
HELL NA mid diff? Tlou1 Joel claps ez low-no diff
Ellie can be a challenge with her stealth and utility. She is basically Joel but weaker in strength.
@@Average_Edits_ Well you can also argue her stealth skills come from joel. as He taught her the majority of what she knows. And i guess depending on the situation it can be more difficult Obviously if she spots him first and hunts him it will be difficult for joel but if its an even playing field and they stumble across eachother its not even a question. ellie whould need to strategize and have preptime.
@@SFTCEdits oh ok
Yea but retard Last of Us 2 Joel evens that shit out.
bias, definitely mid diff, have you seen someone play tlou 2 without just hiding behind walls? The gameplay is wild
IQ go Joel
Father and Daughter
А зачем их сравнивать?
It Ain’t fair at all bro
IQ JOEL
Low diff, Joel is a former bootlegger
what's going on dude
Лучших не сравнивают
Not joel not ellie
why though?
But there is no Joel in the last of us two so I’m more powerful
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