Btw, you do get mitigation vs bows even with vigor because the quicker you get rid of bleeds, the less bonus damage they'll get from the finisher perk on you. So it's indirectly like 15% damage mitigation situationally.
I’ve been running this for 3-4 weeks(Djinn,Vigor, Invig,Flail Medium,Desert Rose). In the real world there are so many duration increases that the entire set is negated with very little investment from DOT builds. I thought it would be meta safe, but it just kind of sucks.
This build sounds fun, thanks for pointing it out! Also, just a tip, you pronounce 'amulet' wrong. You can Google it to hear it, but there's a hidden Y, am-you-let, not a-moo-let.
I use splash still and easily cleanse almost everything all the time. No need for a lot of vigor. Maybe 2 pieces with vigor at most. I'm also a big advocate of flail with ls. I use barrage, trip, and smite for a lot of stagger/knockdown cc utility. The new dungeon heavy pieces have enchanted ward and ele aversion so using two of those pieces with featherweight would be most optimal
Barrage, Trip, and Smite is very fun! The new dungeon pieces are insane, but mostly focused towards being war BIS. Vigor is the best damage mitigation perk in OPR/3v3s right now with all of this over-time damage.
I am a major Featherweight enjoyer and was preparing to upgrade that with %HP. Going Vigor now for sure! Thank you for sharing your research and results on this. Unrelated, but can you go into why you opt for Eruption over Smite in your flail setup?
Oh also one more comment - if you want Medium Pants easily there's a drop of Taiyi Pants that drops fairly quikcly with Vigor + Health already on it, but it is Magnify.
I run full vigor on my healer build....... BUT I don't have enchanted ward or health as the other perks. (Ele aversion and refreshing) but the vigor is so nice and stack it with sunrise. I can't imagine how much "tankier" you would be with health and enchanted ward.
I like these builds, but for me I don't really see myself dealing with DoT that much. It's really just getting pegged by divers and debuffs. Every once in a while i will face some annoying bows with lasting and bleed/poison but i cleanse so easily without much effort so it doesn't take me out of the fight that much. Curious what your thoughts on Lifetaker with Life Staff are?
This is really great, going to try to start putting the pieces together. Do you think Healthy Toast is still worth it after the nerfs? or just as case of nothing better to put in the slot?
There's really nothing better. Regenerating is a close second and worth considering in 250 CON builds. But the burst healing from HT is just simply better even in its nerfed state.
I think regen is better for more con builds, because you just get more HP back. And from what I'm understanding, you really just need Refreshing Toast above all. Others are dependant on if you're doing Paladin or full healer.
Great vid once again! Any tips for wars? Am in the dex group/flex and every group has switched to 3 heavy sns with flail/spear/gs with 1 bow and 1 healer. Currently am finding it hard to survive with LS/rapier against 3 sns and spear, then bow hits me while im on floor. I can barely even cast sacred due to the staggers. Any tips? Would flail actually be better? Does it give immunity to cc when swapping to LS? And fight on sacred? Maybe ig and take wind-chill ? Not sure if this is trolling
Flail would not be better. The weapon itself just doesn't have any mobility to survive against that onslaught of CC. The best weapon is still Rapier. Right now the only way to survive against getting dog-downed by melee is to get pocket healed by another healer. Position near the healers in your army as best as you can and hope to get healed when getting full pressured. Talk to the healers that play in the backline to see if you can coordinate something
I dont see the value over just running 4x vigor and featherweight. Arguably this can be nice in OPR when running beacon, but any build with clap and purifying toast/heart can just cleanse all day every day and be fine w/o any vigor at all.
Hi Baboon, really appreciating your videos. Whats your take on 2h Hammer for 3 cc? especially AOE cc? I really struggle on Arena 3on3 and OPR when i get focussed. I'm right now practicing myself into PvP...and still dont know how to survive for long on 3on3 if i get 2-3 locked onto me. maybe you can give me some advice on another videos how to react in such situations. Would you even prefer flail without shield on pvp over shield? 1cc missing though. But you really loose lots on defense-stats if you go for kite shield, thats for sure. Another question here: Would you go for Djinn over Unyielding or Featherweight, because it drags down the Dots as well?
I've found featherweight and orb sacred DE super effective. You can stack like 40 or 50% fortify, and just play on sacred. You only have one cast spell which is super nice. Offhand go ig or flail. You can tank forever
@@TopperHarl3y huh? i was replying to your question as you were struggling with arenas/opr.. build for wars is just ench ward,refreshing, health, some thrust con. rapier secondary. splash or dst or beacon
Hey Topper! Appreciate the support! I don't find Hammer to be useful in CC, it's just too slow and it's easy to dodge the abilities. If you're struggling with getting focused the many thing I would consider is how well are you playing in your sacred and beacon? And what damage source is giving you the most trouble? You should build around your strengths and weaknesses. Also, the Djinn build is situational. It's only good against high DoT teams.
Haha, yeah! Gotta stay up to date on the meta though.. Once you build a vigor set you'll never have to think about it for the entirety of this game! (Until they change perks and do a revamp again)
Still plenty of days until Season 4! I would definitely try out this build. It doesn't even have to be BIS! I think you'd love it with the current OPR/3v3 Meta 👀
I am putting one out in a few days when I do more testing and gather information. Invigorated looks to be pretty decent but it is still too early to tell. I don't want to put out a build guide video that I wouldn't run myself!
@@baboonbanana99 Thank you for the answer ❤ luckily I didnt invest too much in my current build. Cant wait for your build and the grind to get it. You are my Favorite new world player.
How Empress Zhou shoes is 700 gs? checked database and its 625 named item..maybe weird question cz i came back in game after really long break (1+year)
I don't think it's necessary at all for small-scale. It COULD see some use in wars but new patch just came out and from the feedback I've been hearing from my healer friends it seems like it's not even necessary. Definitely preference! New video explaining this coming soon.
Rapier will always be the best side weapon to use for survivability. Ice Gauntlet and other weapons don't have the survivability of Rapier. You'll get dogged down too hard. IG is only good on Defense and if you play top ramparts a lot. It has very good utility to stop enemy pushes
Imvig is wayyyy better and i use flail still in opr and 3v3 but dont use a shield you sacrifice too much armor and you only benefit from it when you have the flail out. Rapier though is best for war though in that backline. Featherweight is always best for survivability
@@baboonbanana99 "Does not seem to be going away" -- according to what source? You know they can nerf it into the ground any time they want for no reason and likely will.
@@fractalmoetvRanged builds with DoT are perfect to introduce newcommers/pve players into the soup. I highly doubt AGS gonna do major changes to those builds soon.
Btw, you do get mitigation vs bows even with vigor because the quicker you get rid of bleeds, the less bonus damage they'll get from the finisher perk on you. So it's indirectly like 15% damage mitigation situationally.
Yup! Vigor is crazy right now. I really underestimated this perk
I’ve been running this for 3-4 weeks(Djinn,Vigor, Invig,Flail Medium,Desert Rose). In the real world there are so many duration increases that the entire set is negated with very little investment from DOT builds. I thought it would be meta safe, but it just kind of sucks.
Watched you build this last night, nice job getting the vid out 😂
Bruh I am tired.. The rush was real.. And thanks!
This build sounds fun, thanks for pointing it out! Also, just a tip, you pronounce 'amulet' wrong. You can Google it to hear it, but there's a hidden Y, am-you-let, not a-moo-let.
I speak very fast so sometimes I pronounce things wrong even though I know it's incorrect 😂
Thankfully I run the Deity Vengy non dot bow build, but I'm definitely sending this to my pocket healer lol. Good shit man.
I use splash still and easily cleanse almost everything all the time. No need for a lot of vigor. Maybe 2 pieces with vigor at most. I'm also a big advocate of flail with ls. I use barrage, trip, and smite for a lot of stagger/knockdown cc utility. The new dungeon heavy pieces have enchanted ward and ele aversion so using two of those pieces with featherweight would be most optimal
Barrage, Trip, and Smite is very fun! The new dungeon pieces are insane, but mostly focused towards being war BIS. Vigor is the best damage mitigation perk in OPR/3v3s right now with all of this over-time damage.
Vigor has been feeling great! Thanks for testing last night and for posting this 👍
Hey man, you've been rocking this build for awhile. Thanks for sharing the input. I am trusting you with everything from now on 😁
@@baboonbanana99 a broken clock is right twice a day 😂
I am a major Featherweight enjoyer and was preparing to upgrade that with %HP. Going Vigor now for sure! Thank you for sharing your research and results on this.
Unrelated, but can you go into why you opt for Eruption over Smite in your flail setup?
It was mostly just testing last night in that video. I still believe Smite is the best option!
@@baboonbanana99 which flail perks do you use?
Oh also one more comment - if you want Medium Pants easily there's a drop of Taiyi Pants that drops fairly quikcly with Vigor + Health already on it, but it is Magnify.
Thanks for suggesting! Definitely a viable option for anyone wanting to run 200 con and not 250.
Love that djinn headwrap
I run full vigor on my healer build....... BUT I don't have enchanted ward or health as the other perks. (Ele aversion and refreshing) but the vigor is so nice and stack it with sunrise. I can't imagine how much "tankier" you would be with health and enchanted ward.
Yep. It feels insane right now!
I might try this bc PvP is hell as healer right now lol. You have to play close to the mob which makes you so vulnerable to divers and DoT from bows
I like these builds, but for me I don't really see myself dealing with DoT that much. It's really just getting pegged by divers and debuffs. Every once in a while i will face some annoying bows with lasting and bleed/poison but i cleanse so easily without much effort so it doesn't take me out of the fight that much. Curious what your thoughts on Lifetaker with Life Staff are?
The new Life Staff artifact is pretty interesting. It doesn't have RDE on it, so it will probably be used in some niche AOE healer + DPS weapon specs
Appreciate the build!
Anytime!
This is really great, going to try to start putting the pieces together. Do you think Healthy Toast is still worth it after the nerfs? or just as case of nothing better to put in the slot?
There's really nothing better. Regenerating is a close second and worth considering in 250 CON builds. But the burst healing from HT is just simply better even in its nerfed state.
I think regen is better for more con builds, because you just get more HP back. And from what I'm understanding, you really just need Refreshing Toast above all. Others are dependant on if you're doing Paladin or full healer.
Great vid once again! Any tips for wars? Am in the dex group/flex and every group has switched to 3 heavy sns with flail/spear/gs with 1 bow and 1 healer. Currently am finding it hard to survive with LS/rapier against 3 sns and spear, then bow hits me while im on floor. I can barely even cast sacred due to the staggers. Any tips?
Would flail actually be better? Does it give immunity to cc when swapping to LS? And fight on sacred? Maybe ig and take wind-chill ? Not sure if this is trolling
Flail would not be better. The weapon itself just doesn't have any mobility to survive against that onslaught of CC. The best weapon is still Rapier. Right now the only way to survive against getting dog-downed by melee is to get pocket healed by another healer. Position near the healers in your army as best as you can and hope to get healed when getting full pressured. Talk to the healers that play in the backline to see if you can coordinate something
@@baboonbanana99 thanks for advice !
I dont see the value over just running 4x vigor and featherweight. Arguably this can be nice in OPR when running beacon, but any build with clap and purifying toast/heart can just cleanse all day every day and be fine w/o any vigor at all.
Hi Baboon, really appreciating your videos. Whats your take on 2h Hammer for 3 cc? especially AOE cc?
I really struggle on Arena 3on3 and OPR when i get focussed.
I'm right now practicing myself into PvP...and still dont know how to survive for long on 3on3 if i get 2-3 locked onto me. maybe you can give me some advice on another videos how to react in such situations.
Would you even prefer flail without shield on pvp over shield? 1cc missing though. But you really loose lots on defense-stats if you go for kite shield, thats for sure.
Another question here: Would you go for Djinn over Unyielding or Featherweight, because it drags down the Dots as well?
I've found featherweight and orb sacred DE super effective. You can stack like 40 or 50% fortify, and just play on sacred. You only have one cast spell which is super nice. Offhand go ig or flail. You can tank forever
@@mrbicboi2540 He says, that this build isnt smth for WARs...What build will be for wars?
@@TopperHarl3y huh? i was replying to your question as you were struggling with arenas/opr.. build for wars is just ench ward,refreshing, health, some thrust con. rapier secondary. splash or dst or beacon
@@mrbicboi2540 sorry that wasnt meant as a complaint. Thanks for your help out there.
Hey Topper! Appreciate the support! I don't find Hammer to be useful in CC, it's just too slow and it's easy to dodge the abilities. If you're struggling with getting focused the many thing I would consider is how well are you playing in your sacred and beacon? And what damage source is giving you the most trouble? You should build around your strengths and weaknesses.
Also, the Djinn build is situational. It's only good against high DoT teams.
None of this matters since AGS nerfs/buffs everything by 200% back and forth every other week.
Haha, yeah! Gotta stay up to date on the meta though.. Once you build a vigor set you'll never have to think about it for the entirety of this game! (Until they change perks and do a revamp again)
Thanks for destroying the most fun build in the game, blood rapier oneshot build
cry more orphan downy
😈 Anything for my healers
you are the best thanks
Not sure on swapping to Djinn because I already know I am using the new ranged damage artifact when the new season goes live.
Still plenty of days until Season 4! I would definitely try out this build. It doesn't even have to be BIS! I think you'd love it with the current OPR/3v3 Meta 👀
This is insane lol. Can you do one with the perk that reduces roots and stuns. It’s like vigor but I forgot what it’s called lol
Freedom but I feel like disease is a bigger issue right now. Might be worth running invigorated
So what build are you running for war? I want to have the BiS build for war (group healer not AOE) with 2 single target heal
I am putting one out in a few days when I do more testing and gather information. Invigorated looks to be pretty decent but it is still too early to tell. I don't want to put out a build guide video that I wouldn't run myself!
@@baboonbanana99 Thank you for the answer ❤ luckily I didnt invest too much in my current build. Cant wait for your build and the grind to get it. You are my Favorite new world player.
Thanks, I appreciate that and especially your support. My viewers are awesome 🤗@@jianfenggao4713
@@baboonbanana99is this video out yet?
How Empress Zhou shoes is 700 gs? checked database and its 625 named item..maybe weird question cz i came back in game after really long break (1+year)
There is new ones you can get. Either in dynasty or crafted at gypsum kiln
@@baboonbanana99 thx for info=)
What about Invigorated? I’ve been prioritizing that with the recent changes to disease to mitigate the anti heal.
I don't think it's necessary at all for small-scale. It COULD see some use in wars but new patch just came out and from the feedback I've been hearing from my healer friends it seems like it's not even necessary. Definitely preference! New video explaining this coming soon.
Plagued has a 0.5sec internal cooldown that refreshes. It’s never going to fall off you.
I was saying vigor before it was cool
What is your opinion on running ice g with intomb in wars?
Rapier will always be the best side weapon to use for survivability. Ice Gauntlet and other weapons don't have the survivability of Rapier. You'll get dogged down too hard. IG is only good on Defense and if you play top ramparts a lot. It has very good utility to stop enemy pushes
I've been running vigor for months in S3 and love it for musket. I love dealing big dick damage while getting not getting hit buy anything
Haha nice, yeah I recently swapped off of it due to the increased burst in the meta but I always have my set ready just in case!
Wheres the updated paladin build my guy?
Just got back from vacation! Looking to get it out within the next few days. I'm off work for 3 days.
Getting my hands on that stupid soul shroud amulet is crazy hard. Any tips?
Keep farming! On all of my characters it took me like 6+ hours of farming. You could always buy one with the same perks or craft it if you have JC up
@@baboonbanana99 I'd give anything for just 6 hours. I've been doing myrk portal runs killing the bosses. Better drop rate in a dungeon maybe?
I just AFK farm the priest at the top of Opulence. Usually like 1-2 people there @@mackhankins
What did they do to the kite shield?
Nothing with kite shield directly, more just a fix to the stagger. They fixed Flail and added some DR
what are your life staff, falil, and
rapier skill tress
Check out my other videos! They have the builds and stuff there
Imvig is wayyyy better and i use flail still in opr and 3v3 but dont use a shield you sacrifice too much armor and you only benefit from it when you have the flail out. Rapier though is best for war though in that backline. Featherweight is always best for survivability
Tried joining your discord but it said invalid invite.
discord.gg/ZDmyK7cEhn -> This should work
Would this be largely viable next season?
Yes, DoT meta does not seem to be going away. Especially with the new artifacts for FS and Bow. People will still be playing these classes
@@baboonbanana99 "Does not seem to be going away" -- according to what source? You know they can nerf it into the ground any time they want for no reason and likely will.
@@fractalmoetvRanged builds with DoT are perfect to introduce newcommers/pve players into the soup. I highly doubt AGS gonna do major changes to those builds soon.
No shirking energy?
Yup! Also viable over Enchanted Ward. That is what I plan to run. Forgot to mention that like I did with the Splash of Light stuff 🤦♂
Why did you have to give out the secrets man 😭
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OMG i dont want to play Rapier its so boring . . .
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Vigor and invigorated
These perks are looking crazy right now 👀 Going to be talking about Invigorated in a few days
Funny that i already was using this build hahahah
It's so good