A a lot of people who have been dying on Everest recently have only been dying due to a vast lack of technical mountain climbing experience. They’re just rich people who want to say they’ve made it to the top of Everest, so they pay exorbitant amounts of money for people to basically drag their ass up the mountain. often times it doesn’t end well.
i remember reading this article in school back in the day about a young boy who climbed everest. he worked days and years to be fit enough to climb that mountain. he put his body through freezing temperatures so he’d be prepared for those conditions. it takes actual strength and endurance and passion to climb these kinds of mountains. just having money and power, won’t save your life out there.
I work in long term care. It’s scary how bad things are for the elderly. I’m lucky I work at a facility that truly cares, but I have worked in facilities I wouldn’t let my dog stay at. No one talks about how the elderly are left at facilities and then if they don’t have health insurance- but do qualify for Medicare/Medicaid they get to stay & upon their death the government sells their homes or any possessions of monetary value and “recoup” the money they spend on their care. These people pay taxes their whole lives and then receive less than 100 dollars a month AFTER the facility has taken 4,000 PLUS each month to “pay for their care”. They’re in tiny rooms with one roommate and they share a bathroom with their “suite mates”. So 4 individuals share one bathroom. No one talks about this and it’s terrifying to me because none of us are getting out alive. None of us will escape the wrath of time.
People either don't understand what is going on, don't want to hear about it or don't believe they can do anything about it. This applies to most human problems
I've been studying Everest for years . Most of the deaths are from the unpredictable weather . The mountain itself is fairly easy to climb . The unexpected changes in weather are deadly .
My uncle was swept away in front of me by an avalanche and killed. We were on snowcats in backcountry Montana. We found his body the next day but didn’t find his brand new Arctic Cat 440 till the spring thaw. Traumatic for this 14 year old boy. RIP
Into Thin Air really shook me when I read it. It details why if someone is in trouble you can’t help them. It’s them or you. It’s a great book but haunting.
That book scared the bejesus out of me when I read it as a kid. It also started my interest with Everest in general. I’ve never had any desire to climb it, but the history and all the people who have died there was fascinating, for some reason. The idea of stepping over dead bodies or dying people just to stand at the top of a mountain for a few minutes is so strange and macabre to me. Rob Hall’s death is still one of the most tragic, I think.
In a lot of cultures, family is the central unit. They live together, stay together, and they take care of their elderly family members. Most countries dont have nursing homes or have very few. This is a function of American culture. Going back to what Steve O said, most ppl dont want to be reminded of their own mortality or dont want the responsibility, so they send them to a nursing home. I have worked at one for years and have seen countless elderly ppl dropped off at the hospital and abandoned by family. The state then has to pick up the cost of their care. It's actually a bigger issue than most ppl realize.
We are animals after all. We try to go against much of our programming but the fact that the world isnt at peace or has eliminated starving, racism, murder etc is proof that we are after all animals. "Leaving" your elderly fits right in... =/
I work in long term care too. It’s scary how bad things are for the elderly. I’m lucky I work at a facility that truly cares, but I have worked in facilities I wouldn’t let my dog stay at. No one talks about how the elderly are left at facilities and then if they don’t have health insurance- but do qualify for Medicare/Medicaid they get to stay & upon their death the government sells their homes or any possessions of monetary value and “recoup” the money they spend on their care. These people pay taxes their whole lives and then receive less than 100 dollars a month AFTER the facility has taken 4,000 plus each month to “pay for their care”. They’re in tiny rooms with one roommate and they share a bathroom with their “suite mates”. So 4 individuals share one bathroom. No one talks about this and it’s terrifying to me because none of us are getting out alive. None of us will escape the wrath of time.
@_-YoMoMMa-_ this is a very accurate description. Most ppl dont realize that if they don't take care of their parents and you leave them to the state, then the state will take all property, life insurance, and valuables to pay for it. I have seen families get sued bc they abandoned their elderly family member and then went and sold their house and possessions.
I find it a North American phenomenon. Although part of the reason in other countries is because they can’t afford a nursing home either, so they just have to figure something out. There’s no option for that. Although I do believe that, it’s mostly about love and respect for elders. She’s my ex-wife now, but I gained a lot of respect for the Russian culture for a lot of their traditions, and especially how they treat their elders.
@jasonroberts9264 don't lump mexico into that. I've seen the elderly live beautiful lives full of daily hangouts playing dominos in the park with other elderly people. It was incredible that my great grandfather made it to 107 living like that. The elderly in general, get taken care of by their children. You can hate it or love it but it's definitely extending the life quantity and quality to take care of them themselves.
The truly terrifying reason people keep dying on Mount Everest is that they thought it was a good idea to go up there in the first place. I can "sort of" understand wanting to be the first person to the top, but why risk your life just to be nr 6482?
Who are "people" and how "often" do they do this and act on it? If we can believe the results of how many people have died on everest, it's 300 at most. Make that 600, is that many people and often over the past 200 years?
My best friend delivers prescriptions so often he makes drop offs at the old folks home. He says it’s the worst thing you could imagine! He’s like you’ll come one week and see a guy in a chair, staring out the window and you come back the next week and it’s like he hasn’t moved. People just completely broken and lost staring at their feet. I don’t do volunteering. I’d like to get paid. But something just hit me and I think I actually want to volunteer at an old folks home. The loneliness must be unbearable.
I sometimes bring my dog and my guitar to the nearby old folks home. You should see them light up when I walk into the common room or they hear the music and see this huge friendly animal making the rounds. It doesn’t take much.
It can be very rewarding. I do laundry at one and I love it bc I love the folks. Some don't remember but are happy anyway. I like to help calm the wild ones down by just sitting with them, holding their hand, asking about their childhood. When COVID caught our building we lost 12 in 2 wks. It was depressing.
I thought i was gonna die when i ran Pikes Peak in Colorado. I was way lost but i could see the top. Problem was the only way up was by free hand rock climbing. I cannot do that. After a few hours i found the trail again and made it to the top. Later that night i celebrated my bday in Manitou springs.
That's why I love that movie. The goods right at the beginning. The old man is like who the hell would want to go. Climb rock, and my question is. Who the hell would want to die from trying to climb a rock
It's a crime the way the elderly are treated in this country😢. They are the one group that should be listened to, and learned from. Instead they're put in some home, and they get a visitor once or twice a year😢 I could never allow my parents to live in one of those places. The only exception would be if they needed medical help that I couldn't do at home. My dad was dying of lung cancer. He made me promise not to put him in a hospice. So I took care of him at home. They offered to send a nurse in to help me. But honestly, having a stranger come into the house, wasn't much better than putting him in hospice care. So I refused. I was with him until he took his final breath😢
I get it. My Dad had a stroke almost 4 years ago. Pre-stroke, he had friends in a local nursing home and seeing what it was like when he visited them really bothered him. It was recommended after his stroke 'rehab' that he get more therapy before coming home....but it would have been in a nursing home environment, with some therapy. No way. It hasn't been easy, but we brought him straight home, and will do everything possible to keep him here until the end.
I'm old enough to know that once you're"old" it's hard to believe that you're that age. You've got an entire lifetime of memories, and experiences, and it seemingly goes by so fast. The next thing you know you've got young people treating you like you're invisible. You get more respect from strangers your own age, but it's scary to think about life as a fully elderly person. And, now we've got generations of people who don't have kids, or just one kid, I hope their careers and friends are good enough to support them through old age because it could be 20-30 years if they're healthy. For different reasons, our youth and our elderly deserve more from us.
I mean don’t we all do that? Unless we are talking about our topic of expertise most of the time we are discussing things we know a little bit about, some more some less.
@@kdmill7563 Sure, but what is the point of listening to a show that is the same as any random day-to-day conversation? I will listen if he has a knowledgable guest, but not to hear him ramble on subjects I know more about than he does.
This is pretty much the dumbest comment I've ever read on TH-cam.....ever. your telling me you've never talked about something you weren't knowledgeable in? I mean, that is how we gain knowledge right? Somebody says something that catches our attention and then we ask questions...just saying...
No excuses Joe… u don’t abandon ur loved ones.. I’ve seen folks put their ppl in homes then out of sight, out of mind. I’ve known beautiful loving parents who were put in homes and their children only came on holidays-“bc mom doesn’t remember me anyways or it’s too painful”.. U do what u have to do. If u have to put ur loved one in a place like that, don’t forget them. Advocate for them! Don’t allow all their freedoms to be taken away bc of ur discomfort.
Not everybody has the capability to take care of a loved one full time. Like Joe said if you have a full time job how can you take care of somebody with dementia? You can’t. They may accidentally themselves or burn the house down while your at work. I have two small children and my goal is to raise and provide them with what they need to live the best lives possible. I don’t want to be a burden to them in my old age. It’s my job Yi provide for them not for them to provide for me
@@charlesterrizzi8311what a disconnected way to think about it. Some people face hard hips financially and in life in general. Some people don't have the ability or option to "live their life in a way that allows them to take care of the people they care about". Life is a messy garbled up shit show and nothing ever goes to plan. Nobody has all the answers and nothing will always be as you envision it.
@@jackwaters7775That is kinda of a dumb reason tbh. Did you know the cultures that take care of their elders are some of the poorest countries in the world?! Litterly almost all countries that put most elders in homes are usually western countries with most amount of wealth and freetime. I come from one of the poorest countries in the world and my family faced war, famine and I myself had to work since I was 5 years old and had to go without food for weeks at a time when dry season kicked in. Still in our culture abandoning your parents for your own sake is akin to abandoning your own children for that same reason and in some cases worse. Parents raised you and sacrificed their lives to help you in yours and would die for you in a heartbeat and yet when time comes when they are to frail to care for themselves you let them die alone surrounded by strangers?! Just the thought of that disgust me. My grandma has been living with my family for a decade now and before that she lived with my aunt. So whenever one of more suited they take care of her and also you spoke of children. Interesting enough we as kids helped our grandma whenever my parents could not and there was never a question of "can we" Imagine saying the same about a single parent that barely has time to do anything just decided to give up the kid for adoption and tells the kid I can not take care of you and I will visit you sometimes at your new foster parents 🙄 Just like that is out of question for a good parent no matter how "hard" it gets, the same should be implied to the ones that raised you. If you do not feel that way then I guess you just do not respect and love your parents enough to begin with.
@@9529jake you're either extremely privileged or being intentionally dense about the reality that some peoples live are messy and complicated. For example what about a son who's mother has severe dementia and needs 24 hour specialized supervision. And the son who works 60 hours a week in construction to pay for her heart medication and constant back surgeries can't also juggle the responsibility of watching her. That's an extreme example but to pretend that similar situations aren't happening all over the world or possibly far worse or less manageable than you are an idjot
The one that is kinda sitting , is actually a woman , she died on her way down … her first name I’m drawing a blank , but her last name was Schultz … her climbing partner also died . He died of hypothermia overnight . Her husband was also on the expedition but they got split up . That body is no longer there . Also the one on his back , did not die in 96’ , he died in 03 or 06 I believe . He was sitting there , people asked if he was alright he waved them off , he ended up just collapsing and dying . Lack of oxygen
He's RIGHT. I'm a nurse and I see this all the time. Adult children do NOT want to engaged with their elder parents. It's not about nursing home placement. It's about like he said.. putting the blinders on.. even when it's your own parent.. i see this EVERYDAY
One climber who came back from Everest said at interview that often folks who die there were saving money on their expedition. There are apparently multiple "tiers" of what you can pay for and what they bring up over there for you that will increase chances of survival.
So interesting 5:55 Joe unintentionally referred to taking care of a mother or a father as “a person “ My parents took care of me at home full of love they never put me in “babies/kids homes” I’ll never put them in nursing homes The least thing I could do is taking care of them those 10 last years❤
May be harder than we think. Wouldn't judge people. Sometimes I guarantee professional care around the clock is better than inexperienced loved ones with a full plate still. Thank God for everything.
I would say the majority of all climbers who have died on Everest were professional climbers and have built up to this ultimate challenge, this mountain is in the middle of nowhere so nobody who has died has just stumbled across the mountain accidentally and thought oh I will just give it my best shot and try and peak this.
In the past couple of decades, Mt. Everest has been heavily commercialized, with “expedition companies” taking complete amateurs to the summit. The big problem is, it’s quite a lucrative business for the Nepalese government and the Sherpas, as well as these companies who are mostly foreign owned. So amateurs just keep climbing and dying on Everest. Hell… so many people climb, there are literal traffic jams on the summit. I read people equate it to lining up at a Walmart or some shit.
Steve-O is totally right about death. I think that’s why all these male celebrities in particular. Keep having kids when they are way too old. I think in their mind they’re like “I can’t be old if I have a young family.”
Lots of awful Nursing Home stories here! I’m a nurse at a long term care facility for intellectual disability patients. Just Saturday, we had one of my patients “look off”. I was asked to check on him and he was pale. I took vitals and only his BP was concerning. He was noticeably less responsive than normal. Supervisor was called, paperwork was filled out, 911 called and off to the local hospital he went for antibiotics for what we knew was a pneumonia. Now there were three nurses at his side, three direct care staff, two of which were crying for him and then 4 EMT’s attended him before he was transported. Please don’t assume all long term care facilities are like the horrible stories you read in the comments
I can't really take Steve-O serious. "It's like being in a lunatic asylum and having another patient dressed up as a doctor come over and start taking your pulse..." --J.D. Salinger, Franny and Zooey
Man the nursing homes are sad. I've heard stories. It's not even the physical abuse of the the old patients, but purposely leaving them in shit and piss and super uncomfortable all night. It's terrible
My grandmother who worked most of her life in the ICU and in hospice told my dad to put her in a home and that it's too much work for us. Still don't think I would do that to my own father
@@UNCHART3DGAMING I live with my grandpa he can’t walk anymore and can’t really use his hands either he’s cried to me multiple times asking me to kill him and that never gets easier to be begged for
I think being frozen on top of the earth where millions of years from now some new species might find me and be put on display in a museum is pretty frickin cool. I swear I'm not a narcissist lol
I guess those people died how they wanted to? The fact there’s a 29% chance you’ll die is basically suicide in my eyes. But to each their own. Live your life how you want to live it.
Average cost to get to ,equipments, and support is 60-70 K. That's a great deal of Money to risk dying of avalanche, blizzard, oxygen depleted, or freezing to DEATH !
These scenes remind me of old fairytales where young men would attempt to rescue princesses from towers atop mountains that were littered with the bodies of ones who tried and failed…..except the only princesses in these situations are the egotistical and delusional climbers themselves.
It's always funny here in the Isle of Man when people say ban the TT motorcycle races because it's dangerous when more people get killed mountain climbing.
My grandmother on my fathers side didn't want to be sent to an elderly care home. Even as a grandkid living near my parents, who took her in before she was eventually moved to such a facility was incredibly difficult. She had a brain tumor so we had to put her there so she could receive proper care. That was a very difficult decision but the right one.
The Nepalese have been making an effort to remove some of the bodies. Green boots has been a marker for years and has been removed recently. Everest is really just a big hill what is the point we all climb hills
Everest is the tallest hill of them all though. So that makes it special. But at this point summiting Everest is passe. Still an achievement and an accomplishment to make it. Yet still not what it used to be anymore.
I think what Stevo is trying to say is that people will do anything to not deal with their trauma from what I know about psychology if you are trying to climb Mount Everest then you probably didn't have a dad that gave you very much validation I know.. occurs when the mom is poisoned by emotional incest if you have a dad who wasn't supportive and a mom who was all up in your business then you can probably save yourself from climbing Mount interest and go to the therapist with the term
Be careful with the therapist you go with you should definitely test a few out it makes you extremely vulnerable to being manipulated specially financially unless you are a violent person there's two ways people deal with it
There is a company that basically owns the mountain and they are the ones that refuse to remove the bodies. There are many native sherpas who would remove the dead bodies and help save climbers who become debilitated but the company that runs Everest won’t allow them to.
There’s only two people you need to impress in life. The & year old and the 80 year old. Everest is cool but after having kids I don’t know how these guys could just abandon their families to go do this. And die. I fly planes and after having a daughter and anothe don’t he way there were points while flying where I was like “wtf am I have to make it back to my family fuck this”. That’s what always interested me. What drives you to just give up on everything just to say you did something
These kinds of thrill seeker junkies are so self centered, taking unnecessary risks with no regard of the consequences for their loved ones. I also think they may have a spiritual void, and this kind of thrill seeking gives them the experience of (perhaps ironically)feeling alive.
You hit the nail on the head with the word “junkie.” It might not be heroin, but it’s an obsession, all the same. Like Doug Hansen, for instance. He was a mailman who’d tried to summit Everest 2 other times before dying in the 1996 expedition. He worked 2 jobs, spent every dime he had, and talked area schools into fundraising his last trip. Had he turned back when he noticed his health deteriorating and when his guide told him to, he’d still be alive. But, he talked Rob Hall into continuing on to the summit despite it being past the turnaround time, and it got both of them killed. Obsessing and spending all your money on something sure seems like an addiction, to me.
People go to the foothills of Mt. Fuji to commit suicide. The forests are so dense and full of ghosts. Here and there, you will come upon an empty tent with everything left behind.
Joe was missing Steve-O's point completely. He's saying westerners have a weird relationship with how we view death and mortality and aging, and we do.
I remember in high school when learning about Sir Edmond Hillary. My history teacher was like “he was the first white man up there, sherpas are up there herding goats all the time “ lol
Correction, he should have said they leave some of the bodies there because it is too dangerous. They remove quite a few bodies actually. Leave up to a media personality to sensationalize everything.
What's worse is the summit itself is turning into a trash dump. Everyone brings something to leave. A flag, ashes of a loved one, some crap. Yeah well after hundreds of people all have the same lame idea it starts to add up. No one can clean it up either. It's the most inaccessible place on the planet. So it all just sits up there. You risk your life to get there and once you arrive you're greeted by a pile of trash.
Of course you abandon your life for the next 10 years if that person happens to be your parent. It’s a fair trade 10 years for however long life goes. It’s the minimum one could do to repay a debt that big.
These “wild house fires” in Maui and Ca. Nobody talks about the unclaimed properties that the government recoups off of the elderly people who they say are “missing.”
This is mental I'm all for exploring but that sounds like a friggin graveyard and I think the government of that country should ban it once and for all this is just sick.
Think I saw a dead guy in some doc on a ledge frozen into the ice.Everyone who wants to get up just needed to step on/over this person as a footstep. Gruesome shit...
A a lot of people who have been dying on Everest recently have only been dying due to a vast lack of technical mountain climbing experience. They’re just rich people who want to say they’ve made it to the top of Everest, so they pay exorbitant amounts of money for people to basically drag their ass up the mountain. often times it doesn’t end well.
True except George Floyd was not white nor was he rich
No they are not do your research, then open your mouth. They aren't necessarily rich.
Most of them absolutely are. How many of us "common" folk are just able to go to Everest at the drop of a hat? Spare us the bullshit, asshole.
They almost always are at least upper middle class@@hays9008
That's just a cover story for actually being killed by the abominable snowman
i remember reading this article in school back in the day about a young boy who climbed everest. he worked days and years to be fit enough to climb that mountain. he put his body through freezing temperatures so he’d be prepared for those conditions. it takes actual strength and endurance and passion to climb these kinds of mountains. just having money and power, won’t save your life out there.
"Every dead body on Everest was once a highly motivated individual.. so maybe calm down"
😂
I work in long term care. It’s scary how bad things are for the elderly. I’m lucky I work at a facility that truly cares, but I have worked in facilities I wouldn’t let my dog stay at. No one talks about how the elderly are left at facilities and then if they don’t have health insurance- but do qualify for Medicare/Medicaid they get to stay & upon their death the government sells their homes or any possessions of monetary value and “recoup” the money they spend on their care. These people pay taxes their whole lives and then receive less than 100 dollars a month AFTER the facility has taken 4,000 PLUS each month to “pay for their care”. They’re in tiny rooms with one roommate and they share a bathroom with their “suite mates”. So 4 individuals share one bathroom. No one talks about this and it’s terrifying to me because none of us are getting out alive. None of us will escape the wrath of time.
People either don't understand what is going on, don't want to hear about it or don't believe they can do anything about it.
This applies to most human problems
Time and death are the only things in this world that are undefeated. And they always will be. They take everybody out 💯⏳💯
I've been studying Everest for years . Most of the deaths are from the unpredictable weather . The mountain itself is fairly easy to climb . The unexpected changes in weather are deadly .
My uncle was swept away in front of me by an avalanche and killed. We were on snowcats in backcountry Montana. We found his body the next day but didn’t find his brand new Arctic Cat 440 till the spring thaw. Traumatic for this 14 year old boy. RIP
Jeeeeezuz
So sorry for your loss. God bless him
@@georgevavoulis4758 Thank you kind sir. Very nice of you to reply so.
That is traumatic.. I’m sorry u and ur family went through that❤
@@TaShaBeNz85 Thank you for that kind reply. Feels good to know that there are people like you out there.
Steve-O is onto something. And Joe doesn't get it. Norm said the same thing. People are in deep deep denial of their inevitable deaths.
Well that’s also because we are somewhat separated from dealing with death, and cheat it with medicine.
But stevo isn’t the right person to be staying this.😂
I think joe was too hyper focused on the bodies. Steve-o’s comment went right over his head.
@@adhdairsoft8269seems to happen a lot with Joe.
i didnt get steve os comment, how is climbing a dangerous mountain "avoiding thinking about their mortality"?
Into Thin Air really shook me when I read it. It details why if someone is in trouble you can’t help them. It’s them or you. It’s a great book but haunting.
I read that book while I was in jail for a summer 😂
That combination must have been interesting. 😂
@@kdmill7563 I also read Lonesome Dove 😂
That book scared the bejesus out of me when I read it as a kid. It also started my interest with Everest in general. I’ve never had any desire to climb it, but the history and all the people who have died there was fascinating, for some reason. The idea of stepping over dead bodies or dying people just to stand at the top of a mountain for a few minutes is so strange and macabre to me. Rob Hall’s death is still one of the most tragic, I think.
I love that book
In a lot of cultures, family is the central unit. They live together, stay together, and they take care of their elderly family members. Most countries dont have nursing homes or have very few. This is a function of American culture. Going back to what Steve O said, most ppl dont want to be reminded of their own mortality or dont want the responsibility, so they send them to a nursing home. I have worked at one for years and have seen countless elderly ppl dropped off at the hospital and abandoned by family. The state then has to pick up the cost of their care. It's actually a bigger issue than most ppl realize.
We are animals after all. We try to go against much of our programming but the fact that the world isnt at peace or has eliminated starving, racism, murder etc is proof that we are after all animals. "Leaving" your elderly fits right in... =/
I work in long term care too. It’s scary how bad things are for the elderly. I’m lucky I work at a facility that truly cares, but I have worked in facilities I wouldn’t let my dog stay at. No one talks about how the elderly are left at facilities and then if they don’t have health insurance- but do qualify for Medicare/Medicaid they get to stay & upon their death the government sells their homes or any possessions of monetary value and “recoup” the money they spend on their care. These people pay taxes their whole lives and then receive less than 100 dollars a month AFTER the facility has taken 4,000 plus each month to “pay for their care”. They’re in tiny rooms with one roommate and they share a bathroom with their “suite mates”. So 4 individuals share one bathroom. No one talks about this and it’s terrifying to me because none of us are getting out alive. None of us will escape the wrath of time.
@_-YoMoMMa-_ this is a very accurate description. Most ppl dont realize that if they don't take care of their parents and you leave them to the state, then the state will take all property, life insurance, and valuables to pay for it. I have seen families get sued bc they abandoned their elderly family member and then went and sold their house and possessions.
I find it a North American phenomenon. Although part of the reason in other countries is because they can’t afford a nursing home either, so they just have to figure something out. There’s no option for that. Although I do believe that, it’s mostly about love and respect for elders. She’s my ex-wife now, but I gained a lot of respect for the Russian culture for a lot of their traditions, and especially how they treat their elders.
@jasonroberts9264 don't lump mexico into that. I've seen the elderly live beautiful lives full of daily hangouts playing dominos in the park with other elderly people. It was incredible that my great grandfather made it to 107 living like that. The elderly in general, get taken care of by their children. You can hate it or love it but it's definitely extending the life quantity and quality to take care of them themselves.
Joe: he's part of the glacier now
Me: idk how i feel about glacier water anymore
By the time you drink it, it has probably been turned into fish urine a few dozen times anyways.
The truly terrifying reason people keep dying on Mount Everest is that they thought it was a good idea to go up there in the first place. I can "sort of" understand wanting to be the first person to the top, but why risk your life just to be nr 6482?
Just remember kids, every dead body on Everest was once a highly motivated person
Update... David Goggins went for an early run this morning and returned all the bodies to their families.
People often confuse valor and courage with the mind of a mentally unstable suicidal maniac.
Who are "people" and how "often" do they do this and act on it? If we can believe the results of how many people have died on everest, it's 300 at most. Make that 600, is that many people and often over the past 200 years?
My best friend delivers prescriptions so often he makes drop offs at the old folks home. He says it’s the worst thing you could imagine! He’s like you’ll come one week and see a guy in a chair, staring out the window and you come back the next week and it’s like he hasn’t moved. People just completely broken and lost staring at their feet.
I don’t do volunteering. I’d like to get paid. But something just hit me and I think I actually want to volunteer at an old folks home. The loneliness must be unbearable.
It’s so true… the elderly are emotionally neglected in American nursing homes.. it’s terrible
I sometimes bring my dog and my guitar to the nearby old folks home. You should see them light up when I walk into the common room or they hear the music and see this huge friendly animal making the rounds. It doesn’t take much.
It can be very rewarding. I do laundry at one and I love it bc I love the folks. Some don't remember but are happy anyway. I like to help calm the wild ones down by just sitting with them, holding their hand, asking about their childhood. When COVID caught our building we lost 12 in 2 wks. It was depressing.
@@carlamarlene2927 Carla, many blessing from our family to you. You sound delightful.
Bless both of you
You can have all the experience and technical skills possible..but one avalanche or ice/rock slide makes it worthless. Not the way I want to go.
You can survive an avalanche if you have a phd.
Worthless to you
I've watched hundreds of videos on climbing safety and protocols and I do know how to unwrap a PowerBar and pee in a Nalgene bottle...bring on K2!
Just a storm and being cold up in the death zone all you’d want to do is just have a nice little sleep… so sleepy … when I wake up I’ll be rescued 😮😢
This ain’t no bullshit either! I watched that 2008 K2 disaster movie and the sheer size of the serac that broke off was absolutely insane
I thought i was gonna die when i ran Pikes Peak in Colorado. I was way lost but i could see the top. Problem was the only way up was by free hand rock climbing. I cannot do that. After a few hours i found the trail again and made it to the top. Later that night i celebrated my bday in Manitou springs.
Should have taken the road.......🤣🤣
@@mtbasshead
Noice! Good memories, yeah?
Glad you live to remember them!👏😋
Was there any logic to your statement in your tiny brain? Because it sure as hell made no sense. @@abbywinters7751
You got lost on a paved road?
@@Paul-vf2wl That's a joke right?
steve o swam with sharks and says contemplate mortality i love the guy
"She wanted to prove that being a vegan didn't make you weak... She died" 😂😂
Being a vegan doesn’t make you weak, being a woman does 🤣🤣
she shoulda had a couple double cheeseburgers before she tried to summit.
Stevos laugh was what made that part really funny.
That's why I love that movie. The goods right at the beginning. The old man is like who the hell would want to go. Climb rock, and my question is. Who the hell would want to die from trying to climb a rock
It's a crime the way the elderly are treated in this country😢. They are the one group that should be listened to, and learned from. Instead they're put in some home, and they get a visitor once or twice a year😢 I could never allow my parents to live in one of those places. The only exception would be if they needed medical help that I couldn't do at home. My dad was dying of lung cancer. He made me promise not to put him in a hospice. So I took care of him at home. They offered to send a nurse in to help me. But honestly, having a stranger come into the house, wasn't much better than putting him in hospice care. So I refused. I was with him until he took his final breath😢
I get it. My Dad had a stroke almost 4 years ago. Pre-stroke, he had friends in a local nursing home and seeing what it was like when he visited them really bothered him. It was recommended after his stroke 'rehab' that he get more therapy before coming home....but it would have been in a nursing home environment, with some therapy. No way. It hasn't been easy, but we brought him straight home, and will do everything possible to keep him here until the end.
I'm old enough to know that once you're"old" it's hard to believe that you're that age. You've got an entire lifetime of memories, and experiences, and it seemingly goes by so fast. The next thing you know you've got young people treating you like you're invisible. You get more respect from strangers your own age, but it's scary to think about life as a fully elderly person. And, now we've got generations of people who don't have kids, or just one kid, I hope their careers and friends are good enough to support them through old age because it could be 20-30 years if they're healthy. For different reasons, our youth and our elderly deserve more from us.
@@MinaMinksywhen I wake up in the morning I think I’m still 18 and then I look in the mirror!🤙
Listening to Joe Rogan and a guest discuss a subject they know little about is like being a fly on the wall of a college dormitory on a Friday night.
Great description.
I mean don’t we all do that? Unless we are talking about our topic of expertise most of the time we are discussing things we know a little bit about, some more some less.
@@kdmill7563 Sure, but what is the point of listening to a show that is the same as any random day-to-day conversation? I will listen if he has a knowledgable guest, but not to hear him ramble on subjects I know more about than he does.
@kdmill7563 it's like religion, people only speak of it in terms others have told or believe in. A big rumor , make
Me feel all warm inside club.😅
This is pretty much the dumbest comment I've ever read on TH-cam.....ever. your telling me you've never talked about something you weren't knowledgeable in? I mean, that is how we gain knowledge right? Somebody says something that catches our attention and then we ask questions...just saying...
I totally agree with this guy .getting old used to be a privilege!
No excuses Joe… u don’t abandon ur loved ones.. I’ve seen folks put their ppl in homes then out of sight, out of mind. I’ve known beautiful loving parents who were put in homes and their children only came on holidays-“bc mom doesn’t remember me anyways or it’s too painful”..
U do what u have to do. If u have to put ur loved one in a place like that, don’t forget them. Advocate for them! Don’t allow all their freedoms to be taken away bc of ur discomfort.
Not everybody has the capability to take care of a loved one full time. Like Joe said if you have a full time job how can you take care of somebody with dementia? You can’t. They may accidentally themselves or burn the house down while your at work.
I have two small children and my goal is to raise and provide them with what they need to live the best lives possible. I don’t want to be a burden to them in my old age. It’s my job Yi provide for them not for them to provide for me
@@gmfan09that’s a good reason to live your life in a way that makes you able to care for people when they need it.
@@charlesterrizzi8311what a disconnected way to think about it. Some people face hard hips financially and in life in general. Some people don't have the ability or option to "live their life in a way that allows them to take care of the people they care about". Life is a messy garbled up shit show and nothing ever goes to plan. Nobody has all the answers and nothing will always be as you envision it.
@@jackwaters7775That is kinda of a dumb reason tbh. Did you know the cultures that take care of their elders are some of the poorest countries in the world?! Litterly almost all countries that put most elders in homes are usually western countries with most amount of wealth and freetime. I come from one of the poorest countries in the world and my family faced war, famine and I myself had to work since I was 5 years old and had to go without food for weeks at a time when dry season kicked in. Still in our culture abandoning your parents for your own sake is akin to abandoning your own children for that same reason and in some cases worse. Parents raised you and sacrificed their lives to help you in yours and would die for you in a heartbeat and yet when time comes when they are to frail to care for themselves you let them die alone surrounded by strangers?! Just the thought of that disgust me. My grandma has been living with my family for a decade now and before that she lived with my aunt. So whenever one of more suited they take care of her and also you spoke of children. Interesting enough we as kids helped our grandma whenever my parents could not and there was never a question of "can we" Imagine saying the same about a single parent that barely has time to do anything just decided to give up the kid for adoption and tells the kid I can not take care of you and I will visit you sometimes at your new foster parents 🙄 Just like that is out of question for a good parent no matter how "hard" it gets, the same should be implied to the ones that raised you. If you do not feel that way then I guess you just do not respect and love your parents enough to begin with.
@@9529jake you're either extremely privileged or being intentionally dense about the reality that some peoples live are messy and complicated. For example what about a son who's mother has severe dementia and needs 24 hour specialized supervision. And the son who works 60 hours a week in construction to pay for her heart medication and constant back surgeries can't also juggle the responsibility of watching her.
That's an extreme example but to pretend that similar situations aren't happening all over the world or possibly far worse or less manageable than you are an idjot
When weather is good Mount Everest is one of the easiest mountains to climb. But when the weather is bad : Death.
The one that is kinda sitting , is actually a woman , she died on her way down … her first name I’m drawing a blank , but her last name was Schultz … her climbing partner also died . He died of hypothermia overnight . Her husband was also on the expedition but they got split up . That body is no longer there .
Also the one on his back , did not die in 96’ , he died in 03 or 06 I believe . He was sitting there , people asked if he was alright he waved them off , he ended up just collapsing and dying . Lack of oxygen
Was that the German lady? I think her partner or husband may have been looking for her and died himself. But I don't remember. My memory very sketchy.
If I recall right, they both started a summit attempt but had to abort due to batteries dying in headlamps. Causing them to up high longer
He's RIGHT. I'm a nurse and I see this all the time. Adult children do NOT want to engaged with their elder parents. It's not about nursing home placement. It's about like he said.. putting the blinders on.. even when it's your own parent.. i see this EVERYDAY
What's an adult child?
@@PiglipsMaximusThe children of the elderly who are adults.
One climber who came back from Everest said at interview that often folks who die there were saving money on their expedition. There are apparently multiple "tiers" of what you can pay for and what they bring up over there for you that will increase chances of survival.
I wish I could say that I'm surprised or that I don't believe it's true. But Ik that money talks 🤷🏽♀️
I used to climb a lot of mountains. Never had any desire to climb Everest. The Mountain determines your fate.
So interesting 5:55 Joe unintentionally referred to taking care of a mother or a father as “a person “
My parents took care of me at home full of love they never put me in “babies/kids homes” I’ll never put them in nursing homes
The least thing I could do is taking care of them those 10 last years❤
Sometimes those 10 years turn into 30 and counting. Believe me, I know.
@@spicysith9627 only your parents love you unconditionally believe me too
They never cheat on you
May be harder than we think. Wouldn't judge people. Sometimes I guarantee professional care around the clock is better than inexperienced loved ones with a full plate still. Thank God for everything.
Was talking about this at work yesterday. Climbing K2, Annapurna and Kangchenjunga is like playing Russian Roulette with TWO bullets in the chamber.
The bodies are actually now landmarks to know actually where your at on the mountain
Green boots.
"When I grow up I wanna be a landmark on Everest " maybe should rethink career choices . Eighnit?
The Alpinist is an astounding docu. I’ve watched it multiple times. Marc Andre LeClerc was a fascinating dude.
I would say the majority of all climbers who have died on Everest were professional climbers and have built up to this ultimate challenge, this mountain is in the middle of nowhere so nobody who has died has just stumbled across the mountain accidentally and thought oh I will just give it my best shot and try and peak this.
In the past couple of decades, Mt. Everest has been heavily commercialized, with “expedition companies” taking complete amateurs to the summit. The big problem is, it’s quite a lucrative business for the Nepalese government and the Sherpas, as well as these companies who are mostly foreign owned. So amateurs just keep climbing and dying on Everest. Hell… so many people climb, there are literal traffic jams on the summit. I read people equate it to lining up at a Walmart or some shit.
“The problem with Everest is, on a good day any fool can summit”- Beck Weathers
Steve-O is totally right about death. I think that’s why all these male celebrities in particular. Keep having kids when they are way too old. I think in their mind they’re like “I can’t be old if I have a young family.”
Lots of awful Nursing Home stories here!
I’m a nurse at a long term care facility for intellectual disability patients.
Just Saturday, we had one of my patients “look off”. I was asked to check on him and he was pale. I took vitals and only his BP was concerning. He was noticeably less responsive than normal. Supervisor was called, paperwork was filled out, 911 called and off to the local hospital he went for antibiotics for what we knew was a pneumonia.
Now there were three nurses at his side, three direct care staff, two of which were crying for him and then 4 EMT’s attended him before he was transported.
Please don’t assume all long term care facilities are like the horrible stories you read in the comments
I feel the same about some of Steve O’s stunts. 😂
You should interview Ed Viesturs. He's summited all the 8,000 meter peaks multiple times without oxygen,
I can't really take Steve-O serious.
"It's like being in a lunatic asylum and having another patient dressed up as a doctor come over and start taking your pulse..." --J.D. Salinger, Franny and Zooey
Stevo just laughing😂
Fr hahaha
Yeah the "Killer Mountain" K2. Just the view of it is scary
Man the nursing homes are sad. I've heard stories. It's not even the physical abuse of the the old patients, but purposely leaving them in shit and piss and super uncomfortable all night. It's terrible
That’s the end game if you live a long, healthy life.
Talk to any medic or emt and they can tell you countless horror stories about running calls there it’s extremely sad
My grandmother who worked most of her life in the ICU and in hospice told my dad to put her in a home and that it's too much work for us. Still don't think I would do that to my own father
The day I gave to be diapered is the day I tap out!
@@UNCHART3DGAMING I live with my grandpa he can’t walk anymore and can’t really use his hands either he’s cried to me multiple times asking me to kill him and that never gets easier to be begged for
I think being frozen on top of the earth where millions of years from now some new species might find me and be put on display in a museum is pretty frickin cool. I swear I'm not a narcissist lol
I guess those people died how they wanted to? The fact there’s a 29% chance you’ll die is basically suicide in my eyes. But to each their own. Live your life how you want to live it.
Average cost to get to ,equipments, and support is
60-70 K. That's a great deal of
Money to risk dying of avalanche, blizzard, oxygen depleted, or freezing to DEATH !
Even Russian roulette is a 1/6 chance. The difference is one is luck the other is skill.
These scenes remind me of old fairytales where young men would attempt to rescue princesses from towers atop mountains that were littered with the bodies of ones who tried and failed…..except the only princesses in these situations are the egotistical and delusional climbers themselves.
Greeting from Nepal
Everest is now the most dangerous theme park ride in the world.
It's always funny here in the Isle of Man when people say ban the TT motorcycle races because it's dangerous when more people get killed mountain climbing.
5:13 Yes, we all know the true philosopher Steve-o is deep down.
My grandmother on my fathers side didn't want to be sent to an elderly care home. Even as a grandkid living near my parents, who took her in before she was eventually moved to such a facility was incredibly difficult. She had a brain tumor so we had to put her there so she could receive proper care. That was a very difficult decision but the right one.
The Nepalese have been making an effort to remove some of the bodies. Green boots has been a marker for years and has been removed recently. Everest is really just a big hill what is the point we all climb hills
Everest is the tallest hill of them all though. So that makes it special. But at this point summiting Everest is passe. Still an achievement and an accomplishment to make it. Yet still not what it used to be anymore.
Steve-O looking really healthy these days.
The alpinist and solo climb are great documentaries
I think what Stevo is trying to say is that people will do anything to not deal with their trauma from what I know about psychology if you are trying to climb Mount Everest then you probably didn't have a dad that gave you very much validation I know.. occurs when the mom is poisoned by emotional incest if you have a dad who wasn't supportive and a mom who was all up in your business then you can probably save yourself from climbing Mount interest and go to the therapist with the term
Be careful with the therapist you go with you should definitely test a few out it makes you extremely vulnerable to being manipulated specially financially unless you are a violent person there's two ways people deal with it
And only ever use a therapist that is the same sex as you
5:45 Once in a while a switch goes off in Joe Rogan and steers him away from the constant personal blaming.
Like in happy Gilmore when his grandma was being tortured by Ben 😂😂 that’s fckd up
I see this as a good thing. Its not very cool if everyone could climb it without dying.
The bodies aren’t skeletal remains. It’s too cold for decomposition.
The bodies dry out over time
SteevO didn't know that Everest doesn't melt in the summer? Genius.
I'll stick to smaller hills.
There is a company that basically owns the mountain and they are the ones that refuse to remove the bodies. There are many native sherpas who would remove the dead bodies and help save climbers who become debilitated but the company that runs Everest won’t allow them to.
There’s only two people you need to impress in life. The & year old and the 80 year old. Everest is cool but after having kids I don’t know how these guys could just abandon their families to go do this. And die. I fly planes and after having a daughter and anothe don’t he way there were points while flying where I was like “wtf am I have to make it back to my family fuck this”. That’s what always interested me. What drives you to just give up on everything just to say you did something
I guarantee you when I’m lying on my death bed. The LAST thing I’ll be thinking about is, “why didn’t I climb Mount Everest?”.
These kinds of thrill seeker junkies are so self centered, taking unnecessary risks with no regard of the consequences for their loved ones. I also think they may have a spiritual void, and this kind of thrill seeking gives them the experience of (perhaps ironically)feeling alive.
Yeah for sure but I feel like those people can’t live “normal” 9-5 job lives. They would be depressed and probably end up taking their own lives
You hit the nail on the head with the word “junkie.” It might not be heroin, but it’s an obsession, all the same. Like Doug Hansen, for instance. He was a mailman who’d tried to summit Everest 2 other times before dying in the 1996 expedition. He worked 2 jobs, spent every dime he had, and talked area schools into fundraising his last trip. Had he turned back when he noticed his health deteriorating and when his guide told him to, he’d still be alive. But, he talked Rob Hall into continuing on to the summit despite it being past the turnaround time, and it got both of them killed. Obsessing and spending all your money on something sure seems like an addiction, to me.
What's interesting is that more people have died on their way back down after summiting than they have on their way up.
He doesnt give him enough credit. He was climbing the hardest mountains on the planet to summit and died on the way down.
Read Krakauers "Into thin air", it's a fantastic piece
The ironic part is that his book made it even more popular.
The crazy thing is reaching the summit is the goal. But you gotta go back down that shit.
Steve-O reminds me so much of Jim Carrey. I feel like they should be brothers. It’s that smile and those teeth!
People go to the foothills of Mt. Fuji to commit suicide. The forests are so dense and full of ghosts. Here and there, you will come upon an empty tent with everything left behind.
Joe was missing Steve-O's point completely. He's saying westerners have a weird relationship with how we view death and mortality and aging, and we do.
Bert should climb Mt Everest.
Or at least he should start talking about wanting to and how he's going to train for it.
Everest is like Dark Souls IRL
Steveo literally the only one laughing.
Mountains don't kill people . Rappers do. Saw it on a documentary on BBC 2. GLC MOFO
6:25 - reminds me of that japanese move Plan 75
What do you mean he didn't make a mistake. His first mistake was attempting the climb.
I want David goggins to run Mt. Everest. Lol
I remember in high school when learning about Sir Edmond Hillary. My history teacher was like “he was the first white man up there, sherpas are up there herding goats all the time “ lol
2:50 😂😂😂😂😂
If it wasnt for everest they wouldn't die on everest .
It’s not only getting to the top it’s if you took the hardest route possible
Want to do something that is very challenging and borderline deadly? Be a substitute in a big city middle school.
some bodies end up being major land marks on the trail
If i know im gonna end up in a home, im going for one last motorcycle ride. I only need to make it to the first corner.
car accidents are the #1 killer in people under 40 and people drive like complete idiots.
Correction, he should have said they leave some of the bodies there because it is too dangerous. They remove quite a few bodies actually. Leave up to a media personality to sensationalize everything.
Everest turning into a tourist trap
What's worse is the summit itself is turning into a trash dump. Everyone brings something to leave. A flag, ashes of a loved one, some crap. Yeah well after hundreds of people all have the same lame idea it starts to add up. No one can clean it up either. It's the most inaccessible place on the planet. So it all just sits up there. You risk your life to get there and once you arrive you're greeted by a pile of trash.
Of course you abandon your life for the next 10 years if that person happens to be your parent. It’s a fair trade 10 years for however long life goes. It’s the minimum one could do to repay a debt that big.
Time and death are the only things in this world that are undefeated. And they always will be. They take everybody out 💯⏳💯
Joe and Steve-o should climb everest for charity
What happened to Steve-O’s voice?
These “wild house fires” in Maui and Ca. Nobody talks about the unclaimed properties that the government recoups off of the elderly people who they say are “missing.”
Don't mess with old people. Most of them have already taken their lumps and probably see things a lot different than you.
There were more people on the moon than on k2 summit...mindblowing
This is mental I'm all for exploring but that sounds like a friggin graveyard and I think the government of that country should ban it once and for all this is just sick.
Steve O acts like a real Soziopath! Joe Rogan gets emotional and feels sad while Steve O is laughing out loud.
Think I saw a dead guy in some doc on a ledge frozen into the ice.Everyone who wants to get up just needed to step on/over this person as a footstep. Gruesome shit...
Thank y'all for showing love to J.R. Smith