Thing is, in this scenario, Ari's 100% correct. Vince went on to make some hits, some flops, and some pulled-plug projects. E was lucky and got more credit than he deserved for what went right.
a million years later, if Vince had listened to E, Medellin would have been a hit. E got as much credit as any manager or agent deserves that has to deal with the whims of their client, but E's tenacity and devotion to Vince is what got him Smokejumpers and revitalized his career. He went above and beyond because of their friendship when a regular manager would have dropped Vince
Bro what did you even watch the show . Everything good Eric did - madehorn ended up being a flop he told Vince to pass-he told him to take a chance for aqua man and they got it - he wanted to wait and take time to cut and edit Medellin and he was right - he was also the only reason Vince came buck bc he pushed how gus van sant to see his smokejumpers scenes which got him the gatsby Scorsese movie
@@CearesNo, seriously did you even watch the show? Eric watched Medellin and didn't like it. However he never told Vince what he though about it. He went along with Vince and said he liked it. The movie flopped and Eric then said he knew it would and Vince was pissed and that's when he told him that as his manager he needs to start behaving as such and when he doesn't like something he needs to tell him. Eric could have prevented the movie flopping so hard if he actually behaved as his manager and told him it sucked.
I find it hilarious how Ari asked him what he did in the east coast and Eric said "managed an italian restaurant" and Ari followed with "yeah little pizzeria" called him out asap haha
I always figured that in the early episodes where Ari wasn't actual friends with Vince and E and the guys he lied to them about hooking up with gorgeous women to impress them. I assumed he said that stuff to many clients that he was first interacting with.
Ryannnnn10 Definitely, he’s not getting a supermodel like that anyways, he was trying to punk Eric. It makes you wonder about the sake story too. That was also likely a fabrication which led the Eric’s closing line “this sake sucks” as he storms off.
"You read the times, huh? You read the New Republic, well I was reading that, and it's interesting cuz what it says is that, you dont know what the fuck ur talking about" Hahaha I love it!
jordin22rules Do you really think Ari could pull a supermodel like that? He was trying to punk Eric playing up his hot shot agent image. The sake story was the same, he could’ve been lying about that too which makes Eric’s closing line “This sake sucks” so effective.
They changed Ari after the pilot. Gotta remember pilots are to green light a show and certain things can be changed after the show gets into production
I like that they changed Ari after the pilot and made him a loving husband/family man, instead of a womanizer. It makes him a good foil to literally anyone else on the show. And even though he comes off as an asshole, it speaks volumes about his character when he never judges anyone else when they cheat and confide in him. He does judge when they get caught though lol.
Same! I feel like he couldn’t be the way he is AND cheat on his wife people wpuldnt get behind the character like they do it was a smart move! They didn’t need ari to be fucking people the other cast do that enough
@@brickflair8926 Supposedly, the show runners explained this scene as being one of the first interactions between Eric and Ari. Ari's telling a fabricated story to put himself up alongside Vince so that Eric either thinks he's out of his depth and goes back home, or that he should put more trust in Ari so he can better control Vince. So naturally he calls Ari's bluff and rattles him.
Ari said numerous times that he never cheated on his wife AFTER they got married, and the only time we do know that he cheated on her was when they were separated, and Mrs. Ari was dating Bobby Flay and Ari had a fling with Dana Gordon.
@@sterlingarcher74 I do/did respect his character, that is what I was pointing out, and in fact Ari didn't ever cheat until after Mrs. Ari cheated on him first with Bobby Flay (but that doesn't make it right, 2 wrongs don't make a right).
Didn’t he beat the shit out of Billy Wash and Seth Green? Hell, with Seth Green it was three vs five of Seth Green’s crew and Eric and his boys laid them out.
When I first saw this scene I didn’t know who was a main character I just assumed that Ari was just a guy that was going to get fired as the agent little did I know
Watching entourage years later E actually annoys me with how much he try’s to tell Vince what to do and actually side with Ari a lot more. I was the complete opposite when I was younger
Yea at first Ari is very abrasive and the boys are all seen as underdogs trying to live their dream. But none of them actually do real work, in fact Vince is never ever seen actually working. Ari is rough in S1 but over time has an actual storyline and takes real risks while the boys are mostly partying their lives away. It’s a lot easier to respect Ari by the end bc he’s faithful, hardworking, and ambitious compared to everyone else on the show.
William McCormick: Come on, Ari talks shit to Erick every chance he gets and what? Erick stands up for himself and all of a sudden he's some type of wannabe hardened thug? Someone needed to tell Ari to stay in his lane and stop being unnecessarily douchy with people...you can expect to say shit to someone 24/7 and them not to respond at some point.
Ari could kick the living shit out of E, it's unrealistic that he even takes his tough talk seriousy throughout the show. It always bothered me how they present Eric as such a tough guy, when Kevin Connolly is 5'5" in real life. He doesn't look much taller on the show and he has NO muscles whatsoever. Now Ari (/Jeremy Piven) is a bit below 5'8" and ripped or at least in very good shape. It's ridiculous, a guy like him wouldn't worry for a second about getting, much less losing in a fight with E.
Ari literally clowns him the entire show. He would absolutely beat him but he's a businessman. Billy Walsh would beat him too. Everytime Eric fights he has people who back him up or break it up. The kid is 5'5 and 125lb max with no muscle mass. Ari has over 50lb on him and is in peak shape.
I can't tell if Ari is bullshitting about cheating on his wife to mess with Eric/impress him, or if the writers just weren't sure what direction to take with the character yet. Either way I guess it works.
I have a question about that line: I was always under the impression The New Republic was a capitalistic skewing magazine, which had the line make sense as E does not want to just take the money. Now I found out its a liberal magazine and the line no longer makes sense to me. Can you or anyone else explain the line?
Well because politics and society change. The internet made the business model of publications like the new republic seem less and less Noble. Eventually they were forced to adopt the business model of the new media.
Jeremy pivens acting in the scene is honestly fantastic
Love the script, but I gotta run it past my pizza boy lol
Eric's the most overpaid pizza boy in the world.
"its interesting, because it said you don't know what the fuck youre talking about". Haha
Hahahaha shut the fuck up
Thing is, in this scenario, Ari's 100% correct. Vince went on to make some hits, some flops, and some pulled-plug projects. E was lucky and got more credit than he deserved for what went right.
You're wrong and no one cares about your sentiments
a million years later, if Vince had listened to E, Medellin would have been a hit. E got as much credit as any manager or agent deserves that has to deal with the whims of their client, but E's tenacity and devotion to Vince is what got him Smokejumpers and revitalized his career. He went above and beyond because of their friendship when a regular manager would have dropped Vince
Bro what did you even watch the show . Everything good Eric did - madehorn ended up being a flop he told Vince to pass-he told him to take a chance for aqua man and they got it - he wanted to wait and take time to cut and edit Medellin and he was right - he was also the only reason Vince came buck bc he pushed how gus van sant to see his smokejumpers scenes which got him the gatsby Scorsese movie
@@CearesNo, seriously did you even watch the show? Eric watched Medellin and didn't like it. However he never told Vince what he though about it. He went along with Vince and said he liked it. The movie flopped and Eric then said he knew it would and Vince was pissed and that's when he told him that as his manager he needs to start behaving as such and when he doesn't like something he needs to tell him. Eric could have prevented the movie flopping so hard if he actually behaved as his manager and told him it sucked.
@@cloudyns he literally told Vince after they watch the preview at Billy's.
I find it hilarious how Ari asked him what he did in the east coast and Eric said "managed an italian restaurant" and Ari followed with "yeah little pizzeria" called him out asap haha
I always figured that in the early episodes where Ari wasn't actual friends with Vince and E and the guys he lied to them about hooking up with gorgeous women to impress them. I assumed he said that stuff to many clients that he was first interacting with.
Ryannnnn10 Definitely, he’s not getting a supermodel like that anyways, he was trying to punk Eric. It makes you wonder about the sake story too. That was also likely a fabrication which led the Eric’s closing line “this sake sucks” as he storms off.
@@DT-lq1ds Ari was never getting anybody but Mrs. Ari. The guy was always loyal to his wife, it was a total bluff.
Doug said they changed the character to be more wife oriented.
Remember, this was the pilot to get the show green lit.
I think he always like Vince but not E
"You read the times, huh? You read the New Republic, well I was reading that, and it's interesting cuz what it says is that, you dont know what the fuck ur talking about"
Hahaha I love it!
Doug Ellin creator mentions that this was the scene he knew Entourage was going to be huge - like 8 seasons, 1 feature huge
One minute he’s a pizza boy, the next thing ya know he’s a suit!!! 🤣
Walsh was right about E the first time they met: he’s a suit but he just didn’t know it yet.
Some years down the road, that’s exactly what he became.
The origin of "Pizza Boy"
This scene is fucked, cuz for the rest of the series Ari claims to have never cheated on his wife.
jordin22rules Do you really think Ari could pull a supermodel like that? He was trying to punk Eric playing up his hot shot agent image. The sake story was the same, he could’ve been lying about that too which makes Eric’s closing line “This sake sucks” so effective.
@Lure them with Candy damn lol u a pizza boy too. Stfu clown lmao
@Lure them with Candy is there a rule that says you cant reply to comments of a certain age?
They changed Ari after the pilot. Gotta remember pilots are to green light a show and certain things can be changed after the show gets into production
Ari smiling at Eric's bullshit threat is priceless.
I like that they changed Ari after the pilot and made him a loving husband/family man, instead of a womanizer. It makes him a good foil to literally anyone else on the show. And even though he comes off as an asshole, it speaks volumes about his character when he never judges anyone else when they cheat and confide in him. He does judge when they get caught though lol.
Same! I feel like he couldn’t be the way he is AND cheat on his wife people wpuldnt get behind the character like they do it was a smart move! They didn’t need ari to be fucking people the other cast do that enough
@@brickflair8926 Supposedly, the show runners explained this scene as being one of the first interactions between Eric and Ari. Ari's telling a fabricated story to put himself up alongside Vince so that Eric either thinks he's out of his depth and goes back home, or that he should put more trust in Ari so he can better control Vince. So naturally he calls Ari's bluff and rattles him.
Ari said numerous times that he never cheated on his wife AFTER they got married, and the only time we do know that he cheated on her was when they were separated, and Mrs. Ari was dating Bobby Flay and Ari had a fling with Dana Gordon.
@@normancarter5419 Gotta respect it when all of his peers are constantly cheating on their wives and alienating their kids.
@@sterlingarcher74 I do/did respect his character, that is what I was pointing out, and in fact Ari didn't ever cheat until after Mrs. Ari cheated on him first with Bobby Flay (but that doesn't make it right, 2 wrongs don't make a right).
Ari was right and E constantly acting tough instead of learning something. Man I miss this show
It's funny how E always acts tough when in reality he would get the shit kicked out of him by everyone he has ever threatened.
jup lil midget could not even hurt a fly
Didn’t he beat the shit out of Billy Wash and Seth Green? Hell, with Seth Green it was three vs five of Seth Green’s crew and Eric and his boys laid them out.
Haha nope size dont matter in a street fight kiddo.atleast you learn something today
@@ozayrdhoodhat4977 Right. That's why they have weight divisions in all combat sports.
Idiot.
@@ozayrdhoodhat4977 yeah bud I bet everyone underestimates you until you get REALLY ANGRY AND THEN... WATCH OUT... fucking, donkey
When I first saw this scene I didn’t know who was a main character I just assumed that Ari was just a guy that was going to get fired as the agent little did I know
Yeah it was too figured who was the villain 2
Sometimes I wished Eric did jump on Ari,
only to get knocked the F**K OUT!!
Love E in this scene .
"I don't do this!"
Harsh but true
And great acting and delivery
"This sake sucks!" BAM!!!
After these first episodes the changed Ari's character to be faithful. That's why he said here that he cheats on his wife
Manoffriendship the producer said they changed the image of Ari to become more of a family man
Good idea. Looking back on it, Ari seems to be trying to impress Eric more than anything else. It's just talk.
@@SG-jm7np Ellin said he didn't know where the show are character was going. He wrote it because it seemed like the Ari thing to do.
ha both Ari and Brother Mouzone read The New Republic, wonder if Ari reads Harper's
E got a little taste of the Gold's standard.
Ari was right here
Watching entourage years later E actually annoys me with how much he try’s to tell Vince what to do and actually side with Ari a lot more. I was the complete opposite when I was younger
Yea at first Ari is very abrasive and the boys are all seen as underdogs trying to live their dream. But none of them actually do real work, in fact Vince is never ever seen actually working. Ari is rough in S1 but over time has an actual storyline and takes real risks while the boys are mostly partying their lives away. It’s a lot easier to respect Ari by the end bc he’s faithful, hardworking, and ambitious compared to everyone else on the show.
man those continuity gaffes with eric pouring the soya sauce made my head hurt...
Am I the only one who realizes that Ari would crush Eric in a fight?
No you're not. Both verbally and physically, he would crush him, and rightfully so.
William McCormick: Come on, Ari talks shit to Erick every chance he gets and what? Erick stands up for himself and all of a sudden he's some type of wannabe hardened thug?
Someone needed to tell Ari to stay in his lane and stop being unnecessarily douchy with people...you can expect to say shit to someone 24/7 and them not to respond at some point.
he should know his place as the little bitch that he is
E is a scrapper from NY he small but he would go all in
They are both little wimps.
the hooking up with women. he even said he never cheated. but yea there still getting to know each other.
I love the script but I gotta run it past my pizza boy.
Cold but he has a point.
that's a good question: Ari vs Eric; Chicago (moved 2 LA) vs Queens, NY
Ari could kick the living shit out of E, it's unrealistic that he even takes his tough talk seriousy throughout the show. It always bothered me how they present Eric as such a tough guy, when Kevin Connolly is 5'5" in real life. He doesn't look much taller on the show and he has NO muscles whatsoever. Now Ari (/Jeremy Piven) is a bit below 5'8" and ripped or at least in very good shape. It's ridiculous, a guy like him wouldn't worry for a second about getting, much less losing in a fight with E.
just becouse he short don't mean he cant fight, and E is fearless,
E is from the streets , Ari is a business man. I got E
Ari doesn’t take his threats seriously did u watch the show 😂 he always laughs at him or banter back at him
Ari literally clowns him the entire show. He would absolutely beat him but he's a businessman. Billy Walsh would beat him too. Everytime Eric fights he has people who back him up or break it up. The kid is 5'5 and 125lb max with no muscle mass. Ari has over 50lb on him and is in peak shape.
@Nananita971 Domo arigato gozaimasu. Polite form of Japanese for "thank you."
I can't tell if Ari is bullshitting about cheating on his wife to mess with Eric/impress him, or if the writers just weren't sure what direction to take with the character yet. Either way I guess it works.
Definitely bullshitting. he was trying to look cool but when e calls him out on it by saying vince hit that he looks flustered
E is amazing
Chri Chris said no one EVER
E cool, most of vince big moive E got him.
@tjpvc123 he doesn't , he was messin around :)
E dont scare nobody 😂
Do you read the new republic?
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2:36 hahaha epic face
I have a question about that line: I was always under the impression The New Republic was a capitalistic skewing magazine, which had the line make sense as E does not want to just take the money. Now I found out its a liberal magazine and the line no longer makes sense to me. Can you or anyone else explain the line?
Well because politics and society change. The internet made the business model of publications like the new republic seem less and less Noble. Eventually they were forced to adopt the business model of the new media.
It’s just a line to throw shade at E you are reading too far into it.
@Justin8806 Yeah cause E is not half the size of Ari... Oh wait
HAHAHAHA!!! Wow, you win so much, stranger.
@RobDog65 you know this is a show right?
what the hell did ari say at the vary end?
Boom
@mehtes you mean 3:12 epic face
I hate E with a passion.
Tyson McFarland me 2 he has prickly demeanor
And he's kinda boring and linear as a character. He's part of the puzzle though
Woooow. They depicted ari cheating g on his wife in the first episode. Damn bet they wanna forget about that
woooooooooooo ari gold is a fucking legend!!!! he could kick the living shit out of eric!
@jordin22rules ..My thought exactly! WTF??
Ahahha. pizza boy
Thumbs up if you read The New Republic
thought ari doesnt cheat on his wife
E is just a wannabe Joe Pesci
woooooooooooo ari gold is a fucking legend!!!!
E is such a clown
@imfeelinsupersonic94 oh so ur a nationalist gay dude
Jesus did they really have to smack and chew and talk throughout this scene? U can't just have em talking at a restaurant? So cringe!