Regarding the "Full API Key:" Many people think that just because it's a game, it's okay to share their Full API Data. Consider this real - life -scenario: You apply for a job. The company want access to all your email accounts. They wish to read it. They wish to review and read all of your WhatsApp messages, they wanna know the names of all your friends, they go and inspect your bank accounts and financial situation, along with everything else that is private and worth protecting to you. And this is what they require from every applicant - with no guarantee of being accepted. Of course, there's no privacy protection either. What applies to us in real life should also apply in a game. Therefore, I would never share my full API key. I prioritize my security and principles over joining a corp that requires full API. If corporations, in addition to the API key, also ask for personal information, then that is for me acrosses a deep red line and has nothing to do with the game itself: Just my own personal opinion What's your idea of the perfect corp? Feel free to share in the comments !
A friend of mine gave his full API to a scammer from CODE before they held Sov fora bit. Got his account hacked all assets taken and he had to fight for about a year to get it back. Meanwhile me and some buddy's harassed codes gank fleets and made me move bk to HS
@@gingerbong API key does not open any avenues to have your account hacked. Your buddy may have had poor account security practices, but him giving his API info is not part of it.
@@gingerbong Giving full API does not compromise your account security in anyway. The dude probably didn't have two step auth and probably gave information outside of game. Nothing in the API gives anything related to passwords or account security it's all in game data that corps use to screen and vet people any high end group will demand full API or you have no shot of getting in.
Thanks for that. It's important for beginners to watch videos on how to find good corporations because as a newcomer, the complex world of the game can be very challenging. Identifying and joining corporations that align with a player's interests and play style is nearly not possible for new players.
When I first joined EVE I did the random cold call to the first corp. in the corp. listings and received exactly what you did. A very creepy full API corp. that the leader always wanted to private chat and then ask your name and job along with everything else. Needless to say, I left that corp after private chat quiz (of which I did not answer any personal questions) and promptly cut the api and changed my password then moved main to alt account. Anyone that I have never met does not need access to my holdings and wallet. The result is that all corporations are scary to me and I can never feel any trust even with corps. I have been with for years. So, I share your opinion, totally.
It's just that they don't have access and can only read the information, but even that is a lot for a game. Private questions should have no place in a game, especially in the early phase of the application. Private should remain private. It's sometimes strange that we pay more attention to our privacy in real life than in a game. We would never work for a company that asks to read all your emails and WhatsApp messages and also wants to first check your financial situation via bank account
i agree with most of this, but i live in WH space. For us sharing full API keys is standard, but unless you're in WH space then it is something you want to keep to yourself. great video though, enjoy them a lot.
None of the WH corps I was in asked for mail API, though TBH if they did I would just nuke mail because I' m not a dick and don't want them to have free intel on my old corp(s) without asking me. I've left almost all of them on good terms, after all.
A long, time ago I was tempted to join Goons to see if I could sabotage them from within. But I ended up staying in HiSec. When I returned to playing recently, I was going to join Pandemic Horde, until some chat in EvE Uni revealed the CEO went semi-sociopath on a member corp that was leaving. Way too much drama for my tastes. Stuck with HiSec again. I basically just chatted with some random people in the various channels I was a part of, helped some people out and ended up receiving an open invite. My main is solo, but I have a 2nd account and those characters are in the other corp which does HiSec/LowSec stuff.
Thank you for the detailed feedback. The larger Corps/Alliances in 'EVE Online' often face the issue of having numerous "mandatory todo" which can limit my freedom of gameplay. This starts with requirements like achieving a certain number of kills each month, joining fleets, directives on which ships to purchase, and, in extreme cases, they asking for your online time means how often you must be online. Despite these constraints, countless players accept and enjoy this gameplay style. Horde offers a significant freedom, they dont have super strict regulations. Players can still enjoy a relatively unrestricted gaming experience without heavy big regulations from the Horde management. Furthermore, when Horde engages in war and moves to Delve, each player can freely choose whether to stay in the north or not. I once joined a corp that was part of the Goons and was kicked out after my three months travel due to inactivity. 'EVE Online' is a game where many players take breaks. Ultimately, there's only one thing that truly matters: I'm investing my time into this game, so it needs to be enjoyable for me
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Could not agree more with this message. I'm personally a member of INIT. The people and environment are great, but the resources we need to mobilize to maintain sov are pretty overwhelming. The system works, but it requires a lot of dedication from individual players, particularly corp leadership. In the long run, I may end up running with an alt in a non-sov PvP corp to get easy access to small gang PvP.
Good info. I go the opposite way though. I start with zkill and find the most active corps. Then I start looking into if they are recruiting and what alliances they are in, or that they work with.
As some one deep in a null sec block, my best recommendation is to find a niche and pitch it. You might not know what that is yet, or you may change it half way through, but corps love hunters, sabers, logi, ewar pilots, and GOOD small gang warfare pilots. I'm a hunter i spend my days catching things for my mates to kill, and even in horde they always need more hunters. If you at least say you want to learn one of these things and put some effort in, most corp will be MORE than happy to have you! The only thing I would warn you about is almost anyone can be an F1 monkey, so if that is all you want to do that is fine but don't expect to be able to get into some of the more "elite" pvp corps. its still fine to be an F1 monkey just not really sought after.
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Your free to come join the roams we accept all who want kill people in small gangs. I occasionally run with npsi groups though I mainly hit goons in delve in ustz, though we all are a bunch of salty AT pilots for the most part!
Very good vid with information you never see. I joined Brave Empire. They are professional, no Api, you can do what you want and the are part of Brave so I can go to their, rather, safe null sec space. Kind regards Marith of Kazarith
API is the login thing you do on the website when you apply, we do use it. It's not a full ESI but it does allow us to see your mails and isk transactions among other things. It's just how we can see if you're a spy or not
Bin durch meinen Vater in meine jetzige Corp gekommen.. Der spielt eve schon seit 2005... Als ich klein war hat er mir immer von seinen Pvp stories erzählt.. Heute roaming wir zusammen durchs 0. Vielleicht kannst du ja mal was von deiner Eve story erzählen
Moin, Danke für das Video. Ich glaube es ist für neue Spieler gar nicht so einfach eine neue Corp zu finden. Ich muss gestehen, über das offizielle Menü habe ich noch keine Corp gejoint. Bei mir waren es: 1. angesprochen im Local (jaja, die Newbie-Falle - die Corp war nicht so der Bringer...) 2. Eigengründung mit Ex-Corpmates von 1., 3. über Zkill, dann angesprochen, 4. Corp von 3. hat sich aufgelöst, und ist fast geschlossen zu einer neuen Corp gewechselt. 5. Eigengründung mit Ex-Corpmates von 4. ... also es gibt sicher fast unzählige Möglichkeiten Leute zu finden, mit denen man fliegen kann und möchte und wenn man nur lange genug sucht, dann findet man auch die Richtigen. Zu deiner Empfehlung, mit deren Allianz kann man gut Spaß haben und sind nette Leute, die einem auch etwas beibringen, wenn man nicht so die Erfahrung hat. 👍
Super - vielen Dank für dein gutes und ausführliches Feedback, das auch neuen Spielern die das hier lesen sicherlich weiterhelfen wird. Bist Du in einer deutschen Corp gelandet?
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Seit meiner 3. Corp sind es nur noch englischsprachige, aber wenn einen das Englisch nicht abschreckt lohnt es sich über den Tellerrand zu schauen.
Deutsche Stimme gibts noch, die Einstellung ist nur verbuggt. Du musst den Haken bei "immer englische Stimme verwenden" setzen, dann hast die deutsche Stimme wieder :D
As a german I don't like germans ingame 😅 I would never join a german group. Imagine escaping to another galaxy just to eat Bratkartoffeln x) I want to taste that Matigu Sushi 🤣
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb yes .. doing some system maintenance. I skilled up propoise and orca for mining. Still sub module skilling is on going. Also grinding isk for it 💵
No corp will be perfect if it has members. Humans are bad at perfection. My best corp recruitment memory was being called out as a spy because I found their recruitment channel.
The issue with 'EVE Online' is that there's no real democracy within the game. Essentially, every Corp Leader is a War Lord, having the full authority to make decisions about the corporation as they see fit. For the members, this always ends in 'take it or leave it' situation.
Many people think that just because it's a game, it's okay to share their data. Imagine if a real-life company demanded from you, as a job applicant, access to all your private emails, the ability to read your WhatsApp messages, know your friends, and your bank account balance - essentially, everything. What applies to us in real life should also apply in a game. Therefore, I would never share my full API key. I prioritize my security and principles over joining a corp that requires full API.
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I agree that you shouldn't share full API with most groups but there are a hand full of very reputable groups that want full API for security reasons to keep spies and thieves out of their group. And with real life I can also agree that I wouldn't want anyone reading my emails and knowing my contacts but in EVE I couldn't really care if anyone sees my evemail. I wouldn't say never give out your full API but I would say research what group is asking for it before you do because any high end group that takes their screening seriously will ask for full API before they even interview you It is a very vital part of keeping spies and other bad apples out of your group.
@@TheXero Horde doesn't care about it either and I know, the only argument is that they can keep spies out of the alliance with it. But that's just not true. Every large alliance has spies in the other big alliance. I myself have an alt with the Goons and for sure with horde. How do you want to identify a spy through the API Key when you: create a new account... play for half a year, join an inconspicuous Corp and don't have any email correspondence with your "main" or conduct ISK transfers and so on? The thing with the API Key is useless and they know it. Just look at Jay Amazingness from the Goons! First, he deactivated the Jump Clone service which destroyed 52,670 Jump Clones of players and 70% could only be saved by a server maintenance. He has otherwise stolen an incredible amount (Titans and several trillion ISK). Jay Amazingness is now a member of Pandemic Legion :-) API brings nothing. Zero. Those who want to cheat, who want to be a spy, can do so. API offers zero protection, because you can create many accounts.
@@GeNius.hannoverliebt Das Fragen nach persönlichen Daten, die nichts mit dem Spiel zu tun haben, für den Rekrutierungsprozess ist unakzeptabel. Egal wie lange ihr existiert, man macht so etwas einfach nicht. Peinliche Truppe
Deutsche Stimme gibts noch, die Einstellung ist nur verbuggt. Du musst den Haken bei "immer englische Stimme verwenden" setzen, dann hast die deutsche Stimme wieder :D
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Regarding the "Full API Key:"
Many people think that just because it's a game, it's okay to share their Full API Data.
Consider this real - life -scenario: You apply for a job. The company want access to all your email accounts. They wish to read it. They wish to review and read all of your WhatsApp messages, they wanna know the names of all your friends, they go and inspect your bank accounts and financial situation, along with everything else that is private and worth protecting to you. And this is what they require from every applicant - with no guarantee of being accepted. Of course, there's no privacy protection either. What applies to us in real life should also apply in a game. Therefore, I would never share my full API key. I prioritize my security and principles over joining a corp that requires full API. If corporations, in addition to the API key, also ask for personal information, then that is for me acrosses a deep red line and has nothing to do with the game itself: Just my own personal opinion
What's your idea of the perfect corp? Feel free to share in the comments !
Ya makes sense been thinking about this lately
A friend of mine gave his full API to a scammer from CODE before they held Sov fora bit. Got his account hacked all assets taken and he had to fight for about a year to get it back. Meanwhile me and some buddy's harassed codes gank fleets and made me move bk to HS
@@gingerbong CODE still existing? Did not know that.
@@gingerbong API key does not open any avenues to have your account hacked. Your buddy may have had poor account security practices, but him giving his API info is not part of it.
@@gingerbong Giving full API does not compromise your account security in anyway. The dude probably didn't have two step auth and probably gave information outside of game. Nothing in the API gives anything related to passwords or account security it's all in game data that corps use to screen and vet people any high end group will demand full API or you have no shot of getting in.
Thanks for that. It's important for beginners to watch videos on how to find good corporations because as a newcomer, the complex world of the game can be very challenging. Identifying and joining corporations that align with a player's interests and play style is nearly not possible for new players.
thanks
Great video 👍 i watched this corp (and their alliance) crash a gatecamp with t1 destroyers yesterday. Used the opportunity to jump my hauler through
Did you survive?
I have been hoping you would put out another video soon! Great content. I smashed a navy raven this week with the beast, good times! Fly dangerous 07
ohhh i love if my fittings can help.... :-)
When I first joined EVE I did the random cold call to the first corp. in the corp. listings and received exactly what you did. A very creepy full API corp. that the leader always wanted to private chat and then ask your name and job along with everything else. Needless to say, I left that corp after private chat quiz (of which I did not answer any personal questions) and promptly cut the api and changed my password then moved main to alt account. Anyone that I have never met does not need access to my holdings and wallet. The result is that all corporations are scary to me and I can never feel any trust even with corps. I have been with for years. So, I share your opinion, totally.
It's just that they don't have access and can only read the information, but even that is a lot for a game. Private questions should have no place in a game, especially in the early phase of the application. Private should remain private. It's sometimes strange that we pay more attention to our privacy in real life than in a game. We would never work for a company that asks to read all your emails and WhatsApp messages and also wants to first check your financial situation via bank account
i agree with most of this, but i live in WH space. For us sharing full API keys is standard, but unless you're in WH space then it is something you want to keep to yourself.
great video though, enjoy them a lot.
None of the WH corps I was in asked for mail API, though TBH if they did I would just nuke mail because I' m not a dick and don't want them to have free intel on my old corp(s) without asking me. I've left almost all of them on good terms, after all.
Hi, love your videos Ami ❤ if you ever want the stress of leadership you should think about setting up your own corp/alliance
I think I'd rather stay solo . :-)
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fbreally..? That’s awful to hear…I really hope CCP put their foot down against those players who harassed you..!
A long, time ago I was tempted to join Goons to see if I could sabotage them from within. But I ended up staying in HiSec. When I returned to playing recently, I was going to join Pandemic Horde, until some chat in EvE Uni revealed the CEO went semi-sociopath on a member corp that was leaving. Way too much drama for my tastes. Stuck with HiSec again. I basically just chatted with some random people in the various channels I was a part of, helped some people out and ended up receiving an open invite. My main is solo, but I have a 2nd account and those characters are in the other corp which does HiSec/LowSec stuff.
Thank you for the detailed feedback. The larger Corps/Alliances in 'EVE Online' often face the issue of having numerous "mandatory todo" which can limit my freedom of gameplay. This starts with requirements like achieving a certain number of kills each month, joining fleets, directives on which ships to purchase, and, in extreme cases, they asking for your online time means how often you must be online. Despite these constraints, countless players accept and enjoy this gameplay style.
Horde offers a significant freedom, they dont have super strict regulations. Players can still enjoy a relatively unrestricted gaming experience without heavy big regulations from the Horde management. Furthermore, when Horde engages in war and moves to Delve, each player can freely choose whether to stay in the north or not.
I once joined a corp that was part of the Goons and was kicked out after my three months travel due to inactivity. 'EVE Online' is a game where many players take breaks. Ultimately, there's only one thing that truly matters: I'm investing my time into this game, so it needs to be enjoyable for me
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Could not agree more with this message. I'm personally a member of INIT. The people and environment are great, but the resources we need to mobilize to maintain sov are pretty overwhelming. The system works, but it requires a lot of dedication from individual players, particularly corp leadership.
In the long run, I may end up running with an alt in a non-sov PvP corp to get easy access to small gang PvP.
You spelled and punctuated DON'Ts perfectly. That's better than 99% of native English speakers and AI.
I guess it was just luck 🙂
Maybe in Europe lol
@@snakeoo7ca Please clarify.
@@argon62 Not the person who doesn't know how to use a question mark?
Good info. I go the opposite way though. I start with zkill and find the most active corps. Then I start looking into if they are recruiting and what alliances they are in, or that they work with.
i like that way too....
Most corps make a huge drama out of the recruitment process
Yes, unfortunately that's the case...
Ohhh yes they do
I literally got into my corp by getting killed by them first.
As some one deep in a null sec block, my best recommendation is to find a niche and pitch it. You might not know what that is yet, or you may change it half way through, but corps love hunters, sabers, logi, ewar pilots, and GOOD small gang warfare pilots. I'm a hunter i spend my days catching things for my mates to kill, and even in horde they always need more hunters. If you at least say you want to learn one of these things and put some effort in, most corp will be MORE than happy to have you! The only thing I would warn you about is almost anyone can be an F1 monkey, so if that is all you want to do that is fine but don't expect to be able to get into some of the more "elite" pvp corps. its still fine to be an F1 monkey just not really sought after.
sound very very cool...please hire me ! i mean i am difficult, but please hire me anyway!
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Your free to come join the roams we accept all who want kill people in small gangs. I occasionally run with npsi groups though I mainly hit goons in delve in ustz, though we all are a bunch of salty AT pilots for the most part!
This very useful, thank you!
thanks for watching !
Very good vid with information you never see. I joined Brave Empire. They are professional, no Api, you can do what you want and the are part of Brave so I can go to their, rather, safe null sec space. Kind regards Marith of Kazarith
never been to brave...sounds cool
API is the login thing you do on the website when you apply, we do use it. It's not a full ESI but it does allow us to see your mails and isk transactions among other things. It's just how we can see if you're a spy or not
@@ginganutjob no you will not see it. i will do a video about that...hold on
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb was more explaining to the other guy, I'm sure you know the uses of it
Nice. Well narrated.
Love the video - and your voice!
This time my voice is not good... I have a cold.
Nice work on the pvp corp guide :)
thank you
I would try and join Shadow Cartel, I have the ought most respect for there pilots and they gave been around for a long time. 👍
I don't know any of them, I've just been shot down 2-3 times through a hot drop :-)
Bin durch meinen Vater in meine jetzige Corp gekommen.. Der spielt eve schon seit 2005... Als ich klein war hat er mir immer von seinen Pvp stories erzählt.. Heute roaming wir zusammen durchs 0. Vielleicht kannst du ja mal was von deiner Eve story erzählen
Das mache ich gerne einmal. Ihrs eid ein cooles team ! Zeigt es, dass Eve ein Generationen Spiel ist.
Moin,
Danke für das Video. Ich glaube es ist für neue Spieler gar nicht so einfach eine neue Corp zu finden.
Ich muss gestehen, über das offizielle Menü habe ich noch keine Corp gejoint.
Bei mir waren es: 1. angesprochen im Local (jaja, die Newbie-Falle - die Corp war nicht so der Bringer...) 2. Eigengründung mit Ex-Corpmates von 1., 3. über Zkill, dann angesprochen, 4. Corp von 3. hat sich aufgelöst, und ist fast geschlossen zu einer neuen Corp gewechselt. 5. Eigengründung mit Ex-Corpmates von 4.
... also es gibt sicher fast unzählige Möglichkeiten Leute zu finden, mit denen man fliegen kann und möchte und wenn man nur lange genug sucht, dann findet man auch die Richtigen.
Zu deiner Empfehlung, mit deren Allianz kann man gut Spaß haben und sind nette Leute, die einem auch etwas beibringen, wenn man nicht so die Erfahrung hat. 👍
Super - vielen Dank für dein gutes und ausführliches Feedback, das auch neuen Spielern die das hier lesen sicherlich weiterhelfen wird. Bist Du in einer deutschen Corp gelandet?
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb
Seit meiner 3. Corp sind es nur noch englischsprachige, aber wenn einen das Englisch nicht abschreckt lohnt es sich über den Tellerrand zu schauen.
@@serndfreaky2113 nein macht es nicht. War nurs either immer in internationalen corps.
I got recruited by a small gang wormhole Corp after they caught me while exploring. Being a good sport when you get killed pays off
that is nice....sometimes best friendships starts with a kill 🙂
Sounds like hole control
Deutsche Stimme gibts noch, die Einstellung ist nur verbuggt. Du musst den Haken bei "immer englische Stimme verwenden" setzen, dann hast die deutsche Stimme wieder :D
ach nee moment das versuche ich gleich mal...danke
DANEK ES GEHT !!!!! 😍
Thanks for the great video
thanks for watching
Just remember the ' takes the place of the missing letter for contractions - so yep all gd 👍
;-)
lots of useful info. really useful vid...
thx
Ami, just start a corp already...
🙂
Really good vid on something thats not often covered.
thanks
Some great advice! Join Ronin Cartel, we kill mediocre shit-fit PVE pilots.
🙂
Karmafleet is recruiting.
Imperium always a "must go" in your eve CV
As a german I don't like germans ingame 😅 I would never join a german group. Imagine escaping to another galaxy just to eat Bratkartoffeln x)
I want to taste that Matigu Sushi 🤣
hahaha...But you also know that the Chinese language is not easy
nice
are you still streaming?
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb yes .. doing some system maintenance. I skilled up propoise and orca for mining. Still sub module skilling is on going. Also grinding isk for it 💵
@@gamertank1987 sounds nice....arent you with horde?
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb ya
Join Horde !
i did
Please don't join Horde.
@@cory2146 whyyy ?
No corp will be perfect if it has members. Humans are bad at perfection.
My best corp recruitment memory was being called out as a spy because I found their recruitment channel.
The issue with 'EVE Online' is that there's no real democracy within the game. Essentially, every Corp Leader is a War Lord, having the full authority to make decisions about the corporation as they see fit. For the members, this always ends in 'take it or leave it' situation.
Nothing wrong with giving full API if you are applying to a well known corp/alliance with strict recruitment.
Many people think that just because it's a game, it's okay to share their data. Imagine if a real-life company demanded from you, as a job applicant, access to all your private emails, the ability to read your WhatsApp messages, know your friends, and your bank account balance - essentially, everything.
What applies to us in real life should also apply in a game. Therefore, I would never share my full API key.
I prioritize my security and principles over joining a corp that requires full API.
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I agree that you shouldn't share full API with most groups but there are a hand full of very reputable groups that want full API for security reasons to keep spies and thieves out of their group.
And with real life I can also agree that I wouldn't want anyone reading my emails and knowing my contacts but in EVE I couldn't really care if anyone sees my evemail.
I wouldn't say never give out your full API but I would say research what group is asking for it before you do because any high end group that takes their screening seriously will ask for full API before they even interview you It is a very vital part of keeping spies and other bad apples out of your group.
@@TheXero Horde doesn't care about it either and I know, the only argument is that they can keep spies out of the alliance with it. But that's just not true.
Every large alliance has spies in the other big alliance. I myself have an alt with the Goons and for sure with horde. How do you want to identify a spy through the API Key when you:
create a new account... play for half a year, join an inconspicuous Corp and don't have any email correspondence with your "main" or conduct ISK transfers and so on?
The thing with the API Key is useless and they know it. Just look at Jay Amazingness from the Goons!
First, he deactivated the Jump Clone service which destroyed 52,670 Jump Clones of players and 70% could only be saved by a server maintenance. He has otherwise stolen an incredible amount (Titans and several trillion ISK).
Jay Amazingness is now a member of Pandemic Legion :-) API brings nothing. Zero. Those who want to cheat, who want to be a spy, can do so. API offers zero protection, because you can create many accounts.
RL name and job lmao, these guys should be banned
i think its not the full name. only the first name
LFT#1
Ja super Dokumente die Ihr da erstellt um an Daten von Spielern ran zu kommen. Peinlich.
@@MA-uy7iu Und was denkst du kann man mit diesen Daten anfangen?🤔
@@GeNius.hannoverliebt Das Fragen nach persönlichen Daten, die nichts mit dem Spiel zu tun haben, für den Rekrutierungsprozess ist unakzeptabel. Egal wie lange ihr existiert, man macht so etwas einfach nicht. Peinliche Truppe
@@MA-uy7iu bitte um respektvollen umgang. es ist nur feedback auf das die corp respektvoll antortet
Kenshin. is recruiting!
Feel free to introduce your corp here if you like.. !
Deutsche Stimme gibts noch, die Einstellung ist nur verbuggt. Du musst den Haken bei "immer englische Stimme verwenden" setzen, dann hast die deutsche Stimme wieder :D
😍