Do Magnifiers Make Painting TOO EASY? Small Model Painting Project

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  • @FernandoMSanz
    @FernandoMSanz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    As Uncle Atom says: it's a hobby, not an exam. If it makes your life easier, it ain't cheating. Cheers!

  • @drewlovelyhell4892
    @drewlovelyhell4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I bought a pair of magnifiers recently and they are brilliant!
    They made me realise that a fine brush and a steady hand aren't the secret to painting miniatures, it's BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING!
    Only a fool would paint miniatures without them!

    • @timd4524
      @timd4524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good light is also a big help.

    • @drewlovelyhell4892
      @drewlovelyhell4892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timd4524 They have a built-in LED light.. but I just use a regular lamp.

    • @FSDraconis
      @FSDraconis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you near sighted or far sighted? Personally, I am near sighted. I can see really well up close. I have not had much luck using magnifiers. Often just give me more headaches. (literally)

    • @drewlovelyhell4892
      @drewlovelyhell4892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FSDraconis I have astigmatism, so my vision is just generally blurry.

    • @polboygiraffetamer6654
      @polboygiraffetamer6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drewlovelyhell4892 What brand did you use?

  • @Dazron
    @Dazron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I can't do any painting at all without those magnifier glasses. I'm nearly 50

    • @draconismagnus
      @draconismagnus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Plus he didn't flip up the lenses to see something farther, just kept it down.

    • @Hopekuma
      @Hopekuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same (52)

    • @wchart
      @wchart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm 46 and just stated needing reading glasses. I decided to get some magnifiers. They're great, but it hurts looking back at previous paint jobs now. Didn't realize how bad my vision was getting.
      I've repainted so many models now.

    • @phoen31
      @phoen31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm 51 and i with you, man. I was trying to paint runes on a Fyreslayer and just couldn't see them( also farsighted unfortunately)
      .. after i got my first set (on set 2).. i went and looked at them again, and did some revision to say the least.

    • @thorvaldtrollhammer
      @thorvaldtrollhammer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i'll join this boat. can't even do the kitbashing i love so much without these. which kind of lenses do you use? i use a stationary lens with light atm, but would like to try a goggle.

  • @kharn109
    @kharn109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have the arm magnifier with daylight LEDs and it's great, you dont need to use it for base coating or washing and you can swing it into place for details and highlighting as required! :)

    • @alecmiller5296
      @alecmiller5296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here it’s a game changer for my space wolf lenses and eyes

    • @TheDigitalThreat
      @TheDigitalThreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haveone of these headsets and a cheap $30 arm light/magnifier too. Only been using them for a few weeks but i find the arm is good for cleaning plastic and the glasses for painting. (Dam arm kept getting in way of painting). Happy with both but if I were to have to pick just the one it would be the arm, as the light is so much better/useful.

    • @brionl4741
      @brionl4741 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I've used magnifying lamps since the 90s. AAMOF, my last one recently died and now I have to get another one.

  • @patnoon5477
    @patnoon5477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    You know those flip up like a visor, it makes it a bit easier, you just have to use them sparingly, definitely not for 8 hours

  • @Zawpi
    @Zawpi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have the Magnifier arm, its so good, I dont need any aditional lamps as the light around the ring light the mini perfectly. I can paint in the middle of the night and still have crisp clean highlights.

    • @jeffreylanford2943
      @jeffreylanford2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is pretty much what I was going to tell the group on the discord server. Having the arm/light makes life super easy and doesn't give you sea sickness when looking around the room.

    • @Zawpi
      @Zawpi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jeffreylanford2943 Yeah all of the negative parts he mentioned in the video I never have. Its at the side of my desk and is out of the way when not in use. I would highly recommend it.

    • @manaseater
      @manaseater 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one did you get?

    • @jeffreylanford2943
      @jeffreylanford2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to promote them but i found one at online at walmart for $25. came with a base and desk clamp.

    • @Zawpi
      @Zawpi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manaseater www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07S16S9J3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 That's the specific one, I originally bought it to use as a lamp as I didn't think id get used to the magnifier, but its so easy to use I can barley paint without it!

  • @strateegos
    @strateegos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    The idea of "cheating" enjoying your hobby makes no sense. If magnifiers help, use them. That was said of the airbrush when figure painters started using them. Scale modelers had used them for years before with no accusations. Now an airbrush is almost as common as the paintbrush in figure modeling

    • @whitecreamymilk8436
      @whitecreamymilk8436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My hobby is blackjack for money. So I agree. I dunno why people keep saying I'm "cheating" at my hobby. I'm just enjoying it.

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitecreamymilk8436 even old toymakers used magnifiers for all the springs, sprockets, sewing and, obviously, painting details

  • @Neur0tic666
    @Neur0tic666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    If you wore the glasses for 8hrs straight with no breaks, I'd assume anyone would feel a bit nauseous.

    • @JayAdan
      @JayAdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wear an Optivisor for about that almost every day and I don't get nauseous. It's a bit like getting a new pair of glasses. Your brain just needs to adjust a bit and then it's fine.

    • @LoftOfTheUniverse
      @LoftOfTheUniverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get nauseous almost everytime I paint for a couple hours +

    • @jankulcenty4906
      @jankulcenty4906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I work in pro mini studio we use them only for tiny details like shadows and blinks in eye.

  • @richar5d644
    @richar5d644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great video! I've used a clamp-on magnifying lamp with cold light on it and have to say it really can improve your work, it helped me a lot when I got started painting miniatures. Sadly my lamp broke but ill be probably be picking up some glasses or a lamp if possible after this video.

    • @garyblake4296
      @garyblake4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have both and use them both.

  • @igelkott255
    @igelkott255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At 60, magnification is a must. I generally use a magnifier/light on an arm thingy, but I also have those magnifying glasses for when I'm not at my desk. They both work very well.

    • @5stringaustin
      @5stringaustin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, was gonna say. 53 here and while I CAN paint without magnifiers, they help immensely and make it much more enjoyable.

  • @DrFunkin
    @DrFunkin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having used both kinds of magnifiers, the issue with ring light ones is they are harder to keep in focus. I had a lot of issues with having to keep my hands in exact positions otherwise the model would go blurry. I had a similar first experience to you with the glasses, but after a few sessions my body got used to it and I stopped having nausea and learned to better judge my water cup/palette. The increased freedom of where to hold the model offered by the glasses was what pushed me over the edge into preferring them.

  • @Dynoids
    @Dynoids 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite thing about magnifiers is the much better posture and less eye strain from just being able to see it better from further away.

  • @uriance88
    @uriance88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The basic 'magnifying reading glasses' work really well - a bit of fiddling finds the sweet spot to rest them a bit down your nose so that it is easy to look up/down as needed to go back to the pallet/water cup/etc. and are easy enough to put back up on your forehead when you have some less detailed work to do. I used to have one of the magnifying lamps (in the past before LEDs or Amazon) and it worked great - but it's a piece of desk real estate taken up by the mount for the arm. Find what works and go with it - and remember, you also have to adapt to the brush looking way bigger as well . . .

  • @beardedgoblingaming392
    @beardedgoblingaming392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the paint job
    Thanks for the positive negative honesty ive been thinking about glasses like this for awhile

  • @revylokesh1783
    @revylokesh1783 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've gotten these when I got back into the hobby half a year ago. My paintjobs have never been better!

  • @DefectiveDice
    @DefectiveDice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love to see you painting some Malifaux! Ive used so many of your basing tutorials to base my Faux minis.

  • @Robster881
    @Robster881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently got myself a desk mounted magnifier with an LED light and I don't know how I ever tried painted without them. Absolute game changer.

  • @1966mnichols
    @1966mnichols 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay, I have been out of the hobby for a long time. The EOB channel has re-ignited the interest again! Keep up the great work!

  • @kofibrake
    @kofibrake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I use the magnifying lense on the arm, and once you get it, there is no going back. It does not cause the seasick sensation you get from the goggles, but it does take a tad of adjusting to how close to your face you hold your paint brushes.

  • @metajock
    @metajock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been using the one I inherited from my dad's workshop for two years now. Love it, made it a lot easier on my eyes. Avoid the magnifiers on arms, especially if you have a neck injury, they don't let you move around comfortably.

  • @johnhanley5546
    @johnhanley5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A refreshing change to 8+feet tall transhumans in blue power armour - very enjoyable.

  • @rejectx7798
    @rejectx7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a Magnifier Headband. It adjusts up and down which makes the sub-activities like play list choosing and other small things done then adjust back. The focus stuff with your eyes you still got to get used to though, but I’m already wearing glasses so I been used to that since grade school.

  • @ryankrankowski7777
    @ryankrankowski7777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cannot stress how good a game Malifaux is. The rules are really tight and the victory conditions change from game to game making it really engaging. Been playing for a few years and it’s fantastic.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great to hear! I reached out to WYRD and they told me that a starter box is coming out soon!

  • @halfpastzen
    @halfpastzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was looking into these exact glasses, thanks so much for the insight!

  • @MichaelTobin-qk4tx
    @MichaelTobin-qk4tx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree. I painted a crew of Malifaux minis for a customer. They are extremely detailed for their size.

  • @larrywagner1432
    @larrywagner1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As my eyes have, well, gotten old, I find have magnification is a must. I have a standing magnifier that I got for my birthday a few years ago and it’s a life saver. Makes the hobby so much more enjoyable for me.

  • @ForgottenHeathen
    @ForgottenHeathen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great paint job and really good review!

  • @cwaldacwaldovic4572
    @cwaldacwaldovic4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it is a bit outdated, but i'll leave my 2 cents on te topic here.
    I've been wearing glasses for most of my life, for i have mild astigmatism. I got into miniature painting few months back and magnifiing glass on swivel arm was among my first purchases. It is wonderful tool. I would say 2nd most important right after quality lighting lamp. At least if your eyesight isn't sharpest anymore.
    EDIT: Typos.

  • @Tony-ip3mo
    @Tony-ip3mo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a magnifier a few months ago that are the type with 2 magnification lenses flip down in front of your eyes or you can flip one of them out for a variety of magnification levels. I thought they were stupid when I first saw them for sale in a hobby store but was having problems with seeing small details on one of my models, so I decided to give them a try.. One of the best investments I've made so far with model building.. They're awesome!!

  • @The_WarL0rd_Way
    @The_WarL0rd_Way 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have both the glasses and the magnifying light. For me it is a must to use magnification because I'm half blind. I started with the magnifying light and one of the biggest issues with it is my brush handles keep hitting the light. I switched to the glasses and that resolved the issue with hitting your brush handle, but you are right about it making you a little nauseating. I found over time you get use to it and the nauseating feeling goes away. Just do short painting sessions at first. If I had the eye site I would prefer not to use any magnification. but if you must, I prefer the glasses.

  • @avemex
    @avemex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the glasses and one thing I have done is tilt my head up and look down when I had to focus on anything that wasn't the model. It helped with the focus problem you mentioned.

  • @kenholmes
    @kenholmes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have these exact glasses and I love them!

  • @Mutsume82
    @Mutsume82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you can peek with normal sight just by looking up like a normal eyeglass that's how we do it with a reading glasses, this however does not apply if you're using a jewel magnifier (the one with the black color and completely close the eye sight for the magnifier)

  • @marcwittkowski5146
    @marcwittkowski5146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those sculpts are so cool. And your paintjob looks great!

  • @gaiustimitrius
    @gaiustimitrius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Just a little suggestion/input - don't wear the magnifiers for 8 hours! Also, you may find that your depth perception will be off with the single arm. Personally, I need the magnifiers because my eyes are getting older (I'm 51) and regular reading glasses (cheaters) don't work as well for me. Overall, this was a nice video and I love those Malifaux models. Thanks.

    • @GoateeH
      @GoateeH ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, I can't see the models well enough anymore. A pair of these goggles allows me to paint again as I can see what I am doing. It also highlights that too much coffee isn't good for a steady hand!

  • @tristanellis-mascoll1171
    @tristanellis-mascoll1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also have some of these glasses and I think they work quite well.
    I have the type you mention at 1.26 in your video.
    Yes everything around you gets a little blurry, but if you arrange your work space properly this is not an issue. (it also helps to paint faster without the glasses)
    Also I dont recommend to wear them for longer times since they do strain your brain more than just trying to focus normally.
    Around 30-60min each day is the maximum I wear them to avoid any discomfort.
    Gotta get my workspace cleaned up and put on some paints to my models!
    Havent been mentioned with my painting in the last 2 videos.

  • @ConfUsedAnubis
    @ConfUsedAnubis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the content man, you have come a long way i used to watch on an old account named vighar and im very happy seeing you follow your dream.

  • @Toivo1066
    @Toivo1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use similar magnifiers and I can't work without them anymore. Mine hold the lenses further away and I can "bifocal" them by looking around or below. I got used to them very quickly, and I bet you will too. The nausea thing and disorientation will go away- the same thing happened when I got my first prescription glasses, but only for a day. I also have an arm, and I love it too (but the back end of the paint brushes often bonk off the lens and smear across the mini (usually the eyes). Also- thanks for painting Malifaux! I love it when people paint something other that GW, and I have been thinking about buying some M minis for a while now. They look awesome.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you liked the video, and keep your eye's out for more malifaux, more to come!

  • @jonathaneytchison6841
    @jonathaneytchison6841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually use a magnifier with a light that's attached to a metal armature. I've been using this setup since I painted my first model about 15 years ago and still use the same setup. It's absolutely amazing for being able to perceive tiny detail on a model and vastly increases your perceived skill. I would imagine it would be terrible having the magnifier stuck to your face as you mentioned. Having the magnifier in a fixed position is a much better setup, and I highly recommend it as I can't imagine painting that much detail without it. It's definitely worth giving that setup a shot!

  • @luckyskaven13
    @luckyskaven13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's versions that are easy to flip up and down, which helps a lot.
    And the binocular vision of the glasses is really nice vs the monocular vision of the ring on an arm

  • @arcanewarsong
    @arcanewarsong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First I want to say how much I enjoy your videos! I use the inspiration I get from your base making videos all the time.
    As for the glasses I find them invaluable! It will take a little practice, but you will more than likely find you get used to them. The key for me keep them up a little higher so when I want to look at something else, ( like my wet palette) I look under them not over. Also try to move them up on you head like sunglasses when you are not looking thought them for things that take focus and attention. Like typing on a keyboard. Also try a long blink as you shift you eyes back into the magnified area of your view. Your eyes might adjust a little smoother since you're going from a closed eye to a focus instead of the eyes trying to go between two different focal points. This is what causes the nausea. It's similar to motions sickness, as the eyes are trying to keep up with the rapidly changing views. I used to use the big magnifying lens and light combo. It was the hot thing back in the late 80's. lol
    'but then again so were Testers model paints (that's about all there was!) Yeap I'm old! The glasses offer so much more freedom and a better posture, but they are not for everyone. Thanks again for sharing all that you do for the hobby!
    P.S. I really enjoyed the interview with Heath from the murder basement!

  • @jfyt3443
    @jfyt3443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a magnifying glass on the arm like you said at the end of your video. Only use it for the detailed stuff. It’s nice to be watching something on a laptop and when the time calls for it to quarter swivel on my chair and I’m ready to go.

  • @Hurricanelive
    @Hurricanelive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use that magna arm when I do faces or if I want to see if I missed any coverage. It also has bright white light which to me is the first thing you want as a painter, bright enough light to see the actual color you are painting with, not some warm cfc or incandescent. I'd rather have decent lighting then any expensive tool or paint. Next would be a comfortable chair, that would be my biggest cheat, a place that is comfortable to just sit to paint at for a few hours.

  • @PixieProxy
    @PixieProxy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ay! Nice to see someone talk about magnifiers! Also, I will always like to see more Malifaux on any mini channel. Its my hope it becomes more popular than it is currently, because both the game and minis are absolutely amazing.

  • @oxfd611
    @oxfd611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are right about both the glasses and the lens on the articulated arm, I have both and they both have pros and cons. The glasses do make it hard to find the plate than the rinse cup, but the large lens can block the handle of the brush and you have few options of fagnification.

  • @VidJunkie63
    @VidJunkie63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ... "pile o shame ... box 1 of 100" ... oof! :) Thanks for this video on this product. I have been looking at them, myself, to replicate those "close up" video shots that I see on the painting tutorials. Looking forward to a follow-up video review of the magnifier on an arm? Shifting to the models themselves ... thank you for bringing this game line to the spotlight. Your paintwork is very nice on these miniatures.

  • @MiniatureMasterClass
    @MiniatureMasterClass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best mini painters in the world uses those magnifying goggles, so good enough for me to get a pair.

  • @frubblegump
    @frubblegump 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the third option that are more like reading glasses. Have tried different versions over time and they are definitely in my opinion the best.

  • @jonnytenebrous1113
    @jonnytenebrous1113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After various experiments over the years, I've settled on just using 1.5x reading glasses. They give just a bit more zoom for painting, but are subtle enough to not ruin the experience of interacting with everything else on my desk. I've also got a pair of 3x readers, for the occasional freehanding/fine details work, but are otherwise too strong for practicality, imo. Both pairs are small and require little workspace or effort to switch between. Overall, I find that excellent lighting is the best way to ensure I can see/paint well (magnification is a nice bonus) - so much easier (not to mention cooler, temperature wise) now with the advances in high quality LED light fixtures!

  • @pablocamargo8744
    @pablocamargo8744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dude needs way more Likes.
    🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @crossmr
    @crossmr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm over 40.. last time i painted was 15 years ago. Got back in to it and realized I can't see anything anymore. Got one of those right away, and couldn't live without them.

  • @iansalish8969
    @iansalish8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @EonsofBattle Thanks for this video. Love Malifaux models, underrepresented game that deserves more attention I think!

  • @bionicgeekgrrl
    @bionicgeekgrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you wear glasses like i do, then in my experience the visor type of magnifier is the best and easy to move out of the way. I use it for very fiddly stuff in the scale modelling i also do and is invaluable for that.
    The magnifier lamp things are good, but they can get in the way sometimes, but the light is the key with them as you want as close to natural as you can get to ensure colour accuracy. Though the last one I had, the bit that is supposed to keep it fixed in position wore quickly leading to it drooping, so don't skimp on the quality or your mini might be getting whacked by your magnifier.
    Also, always take regular breaks, your back will thank you as well as your eyes.

  • @sirdrakey
    @sirdrakey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been thinking of using a micro camera with a tablet. I have used the glasses but sometimes I want to see closer but can't so I figured try a micro on my camera and it's pretty cool.

  • @pho7020
    @pho7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video, thank you for the review! Also those models look awesome

  • @JynxBlack13
    @JynxBlack13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ONLY WAY to paint, LEFT HANDED!! 😁😁😁 NOICE! IM NOT ALONE!

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lefties FTW!

    • @JynxBlack13
      @JynxBlack13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *ohhh shiny!*

    • @JynxBlack13
      @JynxBlack13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great work BTW, those are siiiiick!

  • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
    @flamestoyershadowkill6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sounds like a godsend for painting pilot figures that come with rg, mg, and pg gunpla. Most of the pilot figures you can get references by looking up how the character the pilot figure represents is in the anime.

  • @billhendricks8516
    @billhendricks8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i went with a mag light and love it for some of the reasons you mentioned not liking the glasses, just what I need for aging eyes

  • @Kazad22
    @Kazad22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Privately, I use standard magnifying glasses. I arrange them at the end of my nose, if I need to look into a wet palette or look up on my desk. In the other direction, the eyes look down at the figurine. I usually keep the model at the height of the bridge, so my eyes fall down on the glasses and on the object itself. What I can recommend is that if you do not have any vision defect and you already feel great magnification at 1x1.5 then stick to it, 1x3.0 magnification and more we will use later in 20 years :). Personally, I developed this method just because of a whole lot of activities related to painting (which you just mentioned). I hope that I could direct you a little bit.

  • @jjcc8379
    @jjcc8379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bough a cheap Magnifier arm with led lightning. with a global 1,ish zoom and a smaller globe at 3x.
    One of the best purchases for the hobby. The lighting certainly is a must with the ring, and it can be used as just a flex lamp.
    With the magnifier it's very comfortable, but one advise: don't pull the model too close to you, or you'll hit the plastic.
    Or paint it. The focal point , specially of the secondary smaller , powerfull magnifier is about 3-4 inches.

  • @bretts2356
    @bretts2356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Solid review, Eons and Jay. I totally understand why it would be uncomfortable for you with the switching focal lengths constantly. My experience is somewhat different as I am VERY farsighted and have worn glasses since 2nd grade (almost 40 years ago!) and had bifocals in 6th grade! I am back in bifocals again in my 40s because, surprisingly, your vision does not improve with age. :( Anyway, all this to say that I am used to switching magnification constantly. I started painting minis in 2014 but quickly adopted the headset magnifiers (mine are not like glasses but are more like a headband with a frame that you rotate up and down... because I am already wearing glasses.). The magnifiers were game changers for me and I literally cannot do any painting without them!

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff friend 👏 👍

  • @TheSixthWorld
    @TheSixthWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife got me a little magnifying glass stand for my birthday last year. I use it for when I need to do really fine detail. Definitely helps a lot and I think it works a lot better than the glasses would. Plus it was cheaper, lol

  • @xephonics
    @xephonics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "GW makes their models to be solid and chunky"
    *Laughs in Lumineth*

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      even the lumineth have oversized hands feet and weapons, realistic scale model details get really small really fast!

    • @ryankrankowski7777
      @ryankrankowski7777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lunineth are pretty chunky compared to Malifaux figs.

  • @barryvercueil2346
    @barryvercueil2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I'm ordering my glasses now 😌

  • @SirKillianAtreides
    @SirKillianAtreides 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a light with a magnifying lense... its fantastic for those tricky little nooks and crannies... especially 10mm minis

  • @charleslaine
    @charleslaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using a Dazor Circline Magnifier on an arm since the 90s. I have bad eyes though, and it really helps me a lot. I couldn't paint without it.

  • @christophercarr9436
    @christophercarr9436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My wife had actually bought me BOTH pairs that you highlighted! We had to send the black pair back though, they are TOO magnifying! The only place you could actually get them to focus didn't leave enough space to work the brush in. They really are meant for watchmaking as advertised beware your magnification level. I found 1.5-2 just about right

  • @KensanOni
    @KensanOni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really am a fan of Malifaux. The models are a lot of fun.
    I couldn't do this hobby without reading glasses at this point. It's just hard sometimes to assemble models if you can't see well enough to know what you are attaching. Particularly with the Malifaux models, which tend to be a bit more piecemeal than a lot of other models. I tend to prefer the lower end of the reading glasses scale, but I wouldn't try working without a magnifier of some kind.

  • @panzershock441
    @panzershock441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With those binocular style glasses you might find depending on the width between your eyes that its hard to get both lenses to focus on one point of the model, meaning double vision and no depth perception. I have the exact kind you showed and I use an elastic band to pull them close enough together to work for me.
    Personally, set up that way I really like them. Spent all of last nights painting session wearing them.

  • @Kilian2
    @Kilian2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is a HUGE difference between cheap magnifying glasses and good (but pricey) ones. With good glasses you do not have visible distortion, great color rendition and it’s less tedious to switch between the magnified view and normal vision.
    I use a clip that attaches to my normal glasses, the lenses of that clip are planoconvex so I have a distortion free view. I think the distortion is the exhausting part that makes you nauseous.

  • @craigturpin1731
    @craigturpin1731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aside from the magnifying glasses review, the colour theory in this video was really informative.

  • @wanderlustpony1304
    @wanderlustpony1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a cheapo headband style with a light since I already wear glasses. They are a godsend versus hunching over to get really close. Bad for your posture, neck, back and eyes. Also, whether it's painting, reading or whatever, take hourly breaks to stretch your legs and relax your eyes.

  • @craigbergman
    @craigbergman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 44 years old I find my sweet spot is a pair of +.50 reading glasses and a swing arm lamp/magnifier. Still get a bit nauseous after long sessions, but just looking around the desk isn't as bad as a headset.

  • @ZombieApocalypse09
    @ZombieApocalypse09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree. I love my magnifiers but I don't put them on unless I'm doing detail work. Wearing them for base coating, shading, and even highlighting is just a recipe for difficulty especially because of how it forces your posture to get focus.

  • @Crobisaur
    @Crobisaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lucked out and rescued a magnifying lens station from a dumpster, they're way more expensive than the goggles but the nice thing is you don't have to worry about flipping them up for working on other stuff. for me it is kind of my only option b/c my glasses often get in the way of any form of headgear.

  • @ErgonomicChair
    @ErgonomicChair 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magnifiers on arms are amazing, especially with a lamp.

  • @harmmany214
    @harmmany214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have some visopters, they are good as well but have a lighting issue due to how the top is a solid material. Another thing I have learned when painting small things, make sure you are not hungry and haven't had a lot of caffeine.

  • @wilsonjayjames
    @wilsonjayjames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get the Ottlite floor lamp! It's great!

  • @carlmayne3519
    @carlmayne3519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Colette FTW .. you bought the best mini's i love that crew and the mannequin models :D - Y'no, when you get to my age you have to use those magnifying glasses nearly all the time :( ... You'll eventually get used to looking at models up close then away, but there does have to be something better, totally agree with you on them making everything away from the model harder to do. Thanks for another awesome video :D

  • @taco36963
    @taco36963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you try painting one without the glasses then paint another one with the glasses to see the difference? Loved the minis though so nice to see a NON GW mini for a change. Really liked the paint job also very interesting concept of painting them like they was on stage under a spot light.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I painted both models under the magnifiers, I think the magnifiers did not let me paint better, but rather to a high quality more quickly and easily.

  • @Zodd83
    @Zodd83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least I relieve that I'm not the only one who've bought these and had nausea and struggled in time for adjusting focus + finding disturbing the area aside the focus lenses. Thanks a lot, I was afraid that something was wrong with me only.

  • @grimmriffer
    @grimmriffer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a set almost identical to that. My eyes are a little older than yours, but for me they are almost essential. Sure, you don't need them for base coating, but I even use them for cleaning flash off the model in the building phase, it's amazing what you wouldn't have seen without them.
    I never paint for more than an hour at a time, so no nausea yet. Some people actually suffer nausea with their first pair of bifocal glasses, so you're not weird!
    I also perform a humorous series of head bobs when shifting my gaze from model to palette, or partner, as I try to look through them, can't see anything, then try to look under then over. 😆
    I think almost anyone would find them useful for some aspect of model painting as more and more precision is required, but maybe not leaving them on full time.
    I think it's interesting that tournament pieces these days seem to tend towards larger models though, as an implicit acceptance that fine detail on small models is just too fiddly! 🙂

  • @RebelDashOne
    @RebelDashOne ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the same pair recently. It was disorienting for everything else (eg. switching focus to dunk my brush in water) until I learned to use the gap above the glasses to see normally!

  • @309freddie
    @309freddie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just like fire, a little goes a long way. Moderation is the answer.

  • @StevilKanevil_
    @StevilKanevil_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me I actually need them. I found out through a work eye test, only a few years ago in my late twenties, I'm far sighted so anything 1-2 foot in front of me is blurry. Doesn't affect me in normal life so don't have glasses but since getting a headset like this I don't paint like a 7 year old any more

  • @raymiller830
    @raymiller830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love using these glasses since I'm getting older and not as near sighted as I once used to be. I quickly got used to looking around the lenses to see brushes, water cup, etc... The only problem I do have is the nose piece does tend to mess with my sinuses and I need to constantly lift them higher on my nose but I'm used to it.

  • @Jonas_Fox
    @Jonas_Fox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifier glasses are part of the fun for me. They transport you into the micro-world. That said, they're designed small so you can peer over or under them to look at the normal world stuff like your show or your monitor. That and make it a habit to look out the window every once in awhile to stretch your eye muscles.

  • @johnbarnett921
    @johnbarnett921 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the exact same magnifier you use in this video. When I was 18 and just starting to paint my eyes were percect. I became farsighted as I got older and I need reading glasses most of the time. I wear a much stronger pair when painting, but when it's time for the fiddly details I get out the magnifier. I agree about the eye adjustment issues, but my biggest gripe is how much the nose support hurts.

  • @HANUMAN7454
    @HANUMAN7454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn dude that came out sick.

  • @OnboardG1
    @OnboardG1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use exactly these goggles for electronics. They’re mandatory for SMD soldering work. I tend not to use them for painting because my close vision is pretty good.

  • @jamdat909
    @jamdat909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve had those for a year already and they are great especially when I’m doing elder gems.

  • @cloragork9173
    @cloragork9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your bit about Planes, Trains & Automobiles made me laugh more than it should have... I recently purchased an arm lamp magnifier and I'm fairly happy with it. It's super helpful for those of us that are getting on a bit in the eyes department. My only issue that the distance I have to hold the model from the magnifier means my brush handle is hitting the lamp. I tried cutting the handle of one of my brushes shorter but I cut too much and I wasn't able to hold the brush as well. I'm going to try again but remove less of the brush handle. Pros and cons to everything, right?
    On a sidenote I just watched your Periodic Table of Space Marines video. Wow, that one was funny! Awful singing...but funny!

  • @garyblake4296
    @garyblake4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When your lamp oil is on the way out they are a god send.

  • @johnlanger7852
    @johnlanger7852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those are so nice to use even for building minis

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will definitely use them regularly, just not for 8-hour painting sessions!

    • @johnlanger7852
      @johnlanger7852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wear it for about an hour at a time. I don't get to hobby for more than an hour at a time. I do like the ability to see all the details.

  • @jamesmhebert
    @jamesmhebert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are several styles of the glasses you showed... one uses replaceable AAA batteries that sit in front of the forehead and can be rather “heavy” on the bridge of your nose after a while; the other uses a lighter weight built-in battery with a micro USB cable for charging. The difference is about 1 ounce.
    The ones you showed, with batteries to the side, are probably a better design than having extra weight in front of you.
    I’m older now, and the glasses help, but I don’t use them full time.
    One option might be the Opticon DA series. They have a focal sweet spot based on the magnification level, and different mags offer a different “distance” to that spot. I’m curious if there might be a good compromise level that can still provide sharp detail while maintaining a greater sense of the overall mini. It’s may be possible, or I may be dreaming (!).

  • @konkoly5183
    @konkoly5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an astigmatism. These magnifiers have been a game changer for me, but I can see if you have normal vision how they might seem a bit redundant.

  • @tywillis2395
    @tywillis2395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my journey to just become the old repairman from Toy story 2, the full watch magnifyer glasses are glorious.

  • @Leagoshi
    @Leagoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait to show what I’m working on

  • @georgedobinson6152
    @georgedobinson6152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having used both magnifying goggles and arms, I much prefer the arms for exactly the reasons you pointed out: eye strain and blind to everything else. Although, I don't bother with either if it's not something I'm struggling with