it’s concerning that the nick situation isnt an immediate dealbreaker 😮😮 yes, people grow and change but if they were once being straight up violent to minorities, then it speaks to his beliefs anddd thats not something that just immediately changes. Just because its not explicitly shown anymore through violence, doesnt mean that he doesn’t still carry though views internally…
Exactly!!! They glossed over the obvious racism in this. It's not that he hates poor people but POC! What does he think of his coworkers, neighbors, and others he has to interact with on the daily that are not white???
I totally understand. If they have chemistry, why not. I think many women don't have physical connection on the first date because of the stigma - when they would actually just like to have fun. Let's not "I don't understand" someone else's choices, they are all valid :)@@AllisonIntheCity
That's fair,@@esikazemese . I'm just usually not that comfortable with a complete stranger after a few hour date, nor do I know when the last time they were tested was or if they're sleeping with anyone else. So, for me, it's too fast!
1:11:34 I have to disagree with the hug versus kiss after the first date debate. There are plenty of guys I’ve really liked after the first date that I only hugged. I think it’s just your personal preference.
Agree! Even the guys I've dated for a while, never kissed on the first date, it just wasn't that intimate and then it felt awkward to force it at the end of the date.
I would really need to know whether Nick is of a minority group himself, and what was the minority group of the people he attacked. He certainly was a jerk, but his level of bigotry could be a completely separate question. It wasn’t clear from the way the question was phrased; the letter writer said something about “other” minorities, but there is a really big piece of information missing about how serious the racial dynamics are in play here.
I don't really understand the take on the bill topic. For me it is totally normal, that after an 80 DOLLAR first date, she offered to pay the next - ahead. I would feel so obligated, that I would do the same. But how he reacted to just take advantage of that is very weird, although at the end he agreed to the shared appetizers, so I am not sure if it was as rigid as it sounds in the e-mail. Money would be definitely a discussion on the next date and see how he reacts to that. But why is the I pay you pick is such a big deal? Just pick something very middle ground priced, or at the same range as the first date one. It's not that hard.
Nick date. First date perfect time to ask about the expulsion, nothing to lose. That would be a deal breaker for me. But I know people can change. Just too much for me…I enjoyed J&Js discussion on it
Insane that you guys didn’t say dealbreaker and condone the obvious racism? You just completely skirted around that part of the story. I imagine if they said Jewish you would feel differently.
WOMEN: u should be dating multiple men at a time. this doesn't mean you're sleeping with these men, cause you're not. dating is very important - u see what you like/don't like. and then you let the man ask if you're exclusive or not. do not ask him.
OMG. Do you know how you figure out where you stand with someone - what level of dating or whatever? You ask them. Have a conversation! Jared, for someone who speaks for a living, sometimes you don't give great communication advice for dating. And the woman who's meeting her boyfriend's one night stand? Is she 12? She needs to grow up and admit to herself that her boyfriend had a life before they met. 🤦♀ And why is going for a walk a weird third date?? Bar dates are boring. So uncreative. At least your scenery is changing while you're walking. I wish you would've reminded this woman that she barely knows this dude and not to give so much of a shit about a stranger.
Yes. She is 12. She might be together at a party with someone her boyfriend had a tiny fling with once. O…kay? No one out of middle school would think for one millisecond that there is any meat on this bone to pick, let alone a reason to need advice. You … act normal? Don’t make it weird? Smile and be polite? Make small talk about the event? How have you gotten to this stage of life and you don’t know these answers? It is socially acceptable to meet your boyfriend’s ex, and … do nothing in particular.
it’s concerning that the nick situation isnt an immediate dealbreaker 😮😮 yes, people grow and change but if they were once being straight up violent to minorities, then it speaks to his beliefs anddd thats not something that just immediately changes. Just because its not explicitly shown anymore through violence, doesnt mean that he doesn’t still carry though views internally…
Personally, any kind of feelings would go out the window after learning about this. How could it not???
Exactly!!! They glossed over the obvious racism in this. It's not that he hates poor people but POC! What does he think of his coworkers, neighbors, and others he has to interact with on the daily that are not white???
It feels insane to me that Nick is not labeled as he should be, DANGEROUS. This emailer needs to run for the hills.
1:11:00 I'm a guy (gay male). I'd never kiss on date #1. Honestly, they're still a stranger I'd feel kinda gross about it.
Amen. I don’t understand when people get physical too quickly either.
I totally understand. If they have chemistry, why not. I think many women don't have physical connection on the first date because of the stigma - when they would actually just like to have fun. Let's not "I don't understand" someone else's choices, they are all valid :)@@AllisonIntheCity
That's fair,@@esikazemese . I'm just usually not that comfortable with a complete stranger after a few hour date, nor do I know when the last time they were tested was or if they're sleeping with anyone else. So, for me, it's too fast!
1:11:34 I have to disagree with the hug versus kiss after the first date debate. There are plenty of guys I’ve really liked after the first date that I only hugged. I think it’s just your personal preference.
Agree! Even the guys I've dated for a while, never kissed on the first date, it just wasn't that intimate and then it felt awkward to force it at the end of the date.
Same! I almost never kiss on the first date, even people I’ve dated long term.
I would really need to know whether Nick is of a minority group himself, and what was the minority group of the people he attacked. He certainly was a jerk, but his level of bigotry could be a completely separate question. It wasn’t clear from the way the question was phrased; the letter writer said something about “other” minorities, but there is a really big piece of information missing about how serious the racial dynamics are in play here.
Yes, that's what I'm wondering
loved hearing about Jordana's wild night out xx
I don't really understand the take on the bill topic. For me it is totally normal, that after an 80 DOLLAR first date, she offered to pay the next - ahead. I would feel so obligated, that I would do the same. But how he reacted to just take advantage of that is very weird, although at the end he agreed to the shared appetizers, so I am not sure if it was as rigid as it sounds in the e-mail. Money would be definitely a discussion on the next date and see how he reacts to that.
But why is the I pay you pick is such a big deal? Just pick something very middle ground priced, or at the same range as the first date one. It's not that hard.
Deal breaker, she thinks going for a walk is weird
Nick date. First date perfect time to ask about the expulsion, nothing to lose. That would be a deal breaker for me. But I know people can change. Just too much for me…I enjoyed J&Js discussion on it
Insane that you guys didn’t say dealbreaker and condone the obvious racism? You just completely skirted around that part of the story. I imagine if they said Jewish you would feel differently.
WOMEN: u should be dating multiple men at a time. this doesn't mean you're sleeping with these men, cause you're not. dating is very important - u see what you like/don't like.
and then you let the man ask if you're exclusive or not. do not ask him.
this was such a good episode! lol. so funny
OMG. Do you know how you figure out where you stand with someone - what level of dating or whatever? You ask them. Have a conversation! Jared, for someone who speaks for a living, sometimes you don't give great communication advice for dating.
And the woman who's meeting her boyfriend's one night stand? Is she 12? She needs to grow up and admit to herself that her boyfriend had a life before they met. 🤦♀
And why is going for a walk a weird third date?? Bar dates are boring. So uncreative. At least your scenery is changing while you're walking. I wish you would've reminded this woman that she barely knows this dude and not to give so much of a shit about a stranger.
Yes, yes and yes.
Yes. She is 12. She might be together at a party with someone her boyfriend had a tiny fling with once. O…kay? No one out of middle school would think for one millisecond that there is any meat on this bone to pick, let alone a reason to need advice. You … act normal? Don’t make it weird? Smile and be polite? Make small talk about the event? How have you gotten to this stage of life and you don’t know these answers? It is socially acceptable to meet your boyfriend’s ex, and … do nothing in particular.