Kid Capri On Blacks & Latinos Creating Hip Hop [Part 2]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
- In this clip, Kid Capri addresses the debate that hip-hop was created 50/50 by blacks and latinos and recent claims made by KRS-One, Lord Jamar, MC Shan, and Tariq Nasheed recently giving their take on things.
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Kid Capri speaking Facts!!! We 🇵🇷 not saying we created it, but we are a part of bringing the Flava it is today!! It started in our Borough!! The Boogie Down Bronx!We was Family no matter what color was there anyway! We never grew up to see it that way!! And I raise my kids the way I was raised Color Blind! And that’s Facts!! @PandaChop I respect 🫡 your work! Shout out to you!!
@@KENDAWGSFBA said we wasn’t there that’s what created the turmoil . It wasn’t about fat Joe and KRS ONE it was about others tryna rewrite history
@@mantekarey8303 They said that Latinos were guest and that they created nothing and contributed nothing.
🤔 But Boricuas🇵🇷 come in ALL shades✊🏾✊✊🏼✊🏽 and that’s the problem with the ones that don’t know about Roberto⚾️Clemente, LaLa Anthony and Tito Trinidad. Y’all keep forgetting the dark skin ones
@@ev8318 more Receipts
@@KENDAWGS what flavor??? Okay It’s clear and proven that y’all didn’t create b boying when we stopped doing it , definitely yall took it to another level. Ok. Have yall created another dance? “ hip hop dances have been created every month Since the inception of hip hop, name ONE hip hop dance that PRs have created. Secondly let’s talk about hip hop slang.. Quote any PR slang that is used globally, not your neighborhood or region. Name a new rap style that y’all created , shit we go from trapp to drill to g funk , to list goes on yall created none this. Stop it bro, yes yall were early participants but that’s it.Respectfully
When kid capri says hip hop started with james brown, he's telling yall hip hop comes from FBA culture.
Factz...we all can just look at old Soul Train footage and see FBA already breakin and poppin before Hip Hop. Where do you see any Puerto Ricans doing that before then? FBA will create, get tired of something then move on to the next thing and other cultures will pick it up late. It didn't stop with break dancing. The Robo Cop, the snake, tootsie roll, the Dougie all the way up to the Milly Rock etc etc. The real creators keep doing it. Crazy Legs him self is on video saying it was called the "moreno dance" now all of a sudden ya'll help create something that was already in existence. Sound very colonizer ish!!! Smh
No he didn't say it comes from fba culture that some new bs
@@juicepedraz941 read between the lines. He stated it comes from James Brown..that is Black....
Soul Train was filmed in Chicago.
Break dancing originated in the Bronx, New York..
What you saw in Soul Train was a mimic of what was originated in the Bronx.......
Straight Up!
Black American's created Hip Hop and every other group came after, which helped grow it along with Black Americans. I don't know why that is so hard to admit.
@@kes9298 that’s not the argument good brother
@@mantekarey8303it is the argument.
😂😂
Theres a misunderstanding. FBAs are running with the narrative that PRs are hijacking the credit for the creation of Hip-Hop, which NOBODY ON THIS SIDE IS CLAIMING. We tryna have that dialog but most are dismissive; THEY AINY TRYNA HEAR IT. Its a case of making stuff up in ones own mind and running with it, but if you know, you know.. and if you don't... then SEEK THE MOST HIGH and stop hating us for no reason other than to cause division. WE BEEN HERE. Unfortunately our people are lost due to a lack of knowledge.
@@SPACETRUCKIN215 puerto ricans what some type of special acknowledgement for being the 1st or 2nd students of hip hop.
Blacks were in The Bronx before anyone even knew what a Puerto Rican was..
Yeah, that part they keep acting like those people was always there 😂😂😂
@@njgiant1 EXACTLY
Puerto Ricans were in NYC since the 30s ....there was no hip hop in those years.
@@MaximoLora-gm4qc Puerto Ricans did not help invent ANYTHING. They only participated, Big difference
The Bronx got flooded with P.R.'s in the early to mid 1900's, before the 4 elements of Hip-Hop was created around 1970.
Kid Capri said a whole lot of nothing. Scared to take an affirmative stance. FOH
They were there as spectators, not practitioners. After they learn the culture from black Americans, then they start being participants.
Hip-hop Culture Is An FBA Brainchild. FBA Soul Comes Out of US Like How A Web Comes Out of A Spider
the rock steady crew came later and black people were dancing since the 30's.....they got it from black people who left it and created 1000 other dances....puerto ricans still breakdancing and created nothing
Facts
Nothing but the truth 💯
@@lflash204 REALLY, you think that young kids were looking at footage from the 1930s! If you go that route, I saw footage of brothers from Africa, doing something similar to what we call break dancing.
@@defrocker0569 similar dance but not the same dance....stop the bull...you know what im talkin bout.....so if i go out and buy a drumset and make a beat,,,,you gonna give africa credit for that too..
@@defrocker0569 kids wasnt looking at footage from the 30s because james brown and their parents was doing those same moves....their parents got those moves from the people from the 30s
HIP HOP IS A FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CREATION PERIOD.
@@S.O.T.SMEDIA Facts
Sensitive people stick together SMH
@@AngelRivera-vh7bz LIE Tinos stick together
@@Asiatic57 just like Nebraska N. with no swag just ham hocks lol
@@Asiatic57 we ran sensative emotional types, you know, down south lol Esses got the California we have NYC, wya tho lol
Panda, stop trying to get people on your show to put the narrative that Latinos help create Hip Hop. Hop Hop is a black american thing now was Latino there yes because we lived in the same areas but Latino had no part in the creation now did Latinos participate yes but that's not the question the question is did Latinos help create hip hop and the answer is no and I'm from the Bronx and my OG's are some of the pioneers of this music and I'm over 50 years old. it's OK that Latinos participate in hip hop but Latinos was not part of creation Latinos did not create the look the style the culture the music it was all a black american creation.
I’ve had people on here that have argued against the 50/50 conversation as well. When I ask the question idk what the person is going to say so it’s not me trying to push a narrative. Maybe you haven’t seen my interview with K-born or Funkmaster Wizard Wiz where he says he was offended by Fat Joe saying it was 50/50
@@pandachopnews But here's the thing some of them that you have on your space wasn't even there I was a young man I would love to tell you a few stories that was told to from some of the pioneers myself and even though I was younger I did witness alot and absorb what the pioneers showed and taught me. and this was in the mid 70's
What I’m telling you is don’t assume cuz you obviously don’t know me and you didn’t watch the interviews where people was arguing against the 50/50.
That's basically what I told him, but he said that ain't what he on so we'll see
@@pandachopnews Hispanic culture is boring compared to Black American culture....we get it. But that gives y'all no right to steal OUR culture and say it's yours.
Black American never needed help making music
Exactly we damn created every genre without the Black community this world will be lost not knowing there toes from there ass.
Say It Loud I'm Black And I'm Proud
Big Salute to my FBA elder James Brown .
Sensitive people stick together lol
@@AngelRivera-vh7bz we sensitive but y'all can't stop copying our every move.
@vangoghsotherear4114 y'all so sensitive we ran to reggaeton and island music, y'all have too much insecurities, delusional issues, and too self destructive for anyone to admire you plus y'all very selective and 90 percent of " your" music is smoking mirrors with theatrics and semantics and y'all re-creating y'all identities every four years, trust nobody nobody wants to be like y'all 💯
@@vangoghsotherear4114 look at y'all take a good look lol I love being me y'all 90 percent plastic theatrics semantics and smoking mirrors all part of the baby oil brothers association SMH
@@vangoghsotherear4114 trust me my son nobody in my circle wants to sell their manhood, create false images, and self destructive their communities plus we don't purchase baby oil by the boat loads SMH definitely not us 💯
PR don't have any flavor at all,not even till today.Kid Capri trying to toll the line He knows black Americans created hip hop.
I said that James brown is the father of Hiphop.
Godfather
He's not being honest trying to spare people's feelings all the people that were there at the beginning say that the Puerto Ricans came later on after the creation had started
That's odd since Puerto Ricans were the largest minority group in New York City at that time.
@@elvinsolano6177 🤔
@@elvinsolano6177 They dont have a single female Pioneer in Hip Hop...that shows it aint your culture
@elvinsolano6177 stop it Puerto Ricans definitely wasn't the largest minority in the 70s
@@elvinsolano6177 NO, Blk Americans were, then PR came right after them. NYC was BLK POWER CENTRAL in the 1970's which is why you saw latins rocking Afros
The documentary, Microphone Check ( The Hidden History of Hip Hop ) debunks all of the BS!!
Netflix?
@@andrewjones2133 In Theaters
@@andrewjones2133nah, a guy named Tariq Nasheed made the documentary. Gotta purchase the DVD.
Hip Hop is the next evolution from Funk and before Funk it was something else like the R&B and strictly party dance music and Soul music. Jazz and before that blues form the Gospel and Slavery chants. But Bee Boying from NY Black American early 1970s underground or hood party scene. Latinos and Blacks had ethnic racial divide because of older people being divided. So how in the hell did Latinos start anything from Black peoples culture. Latinos came in to influence possibly like late 1970s. Aint even no Latino songs until 80s. Shit ya other peoples act like ya wanna put Black Americans back into slavery. Stop leaching. Everybody can't start everything. Black Americans started Hip Hop and all its elements.
Hey keeps saying that era and mentioning KRS or Shan but they're 80's era, not 73 era!
My uncles who were teenagers in the early 70’s said DJ Mario , Grandmaster Flowers and few other djs were spinning park jams as early as 70-71, and there was countless dj’s spinning with 2 turn tables before Herc got started. They also said breakdancing didn’t become break dancing until the mid 70’s -76-77- by that time the brothas that used to get on the floor stopped that because they didn’t want get dirty and they said thats when the Puerto Ricans picked it up and ran with it. By the end of the 70’s thats when you started to see breaking crews emerge.
Thar's some insight for us outofstaters ... Connecticut to be exact. Thanks for that jem.
Absolutely.
Hip-hop is FBA culture
Hip hop is NYC culture F ya FBA niccas eat a frank!
Thats a big LIE. Hip hop is a NYC thing....there was no blacks in Alabama, Georgia or Missouri doing hip hop. NYC is a melting pot with Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Jamaicans etc.
Kid Capri isn’t sure because he wasn't there. Why did you not talk to people who were actually there?
Kid Capri mentions people like DJ Charley Chase and Whipper Whip, and those folks said on video that Hip Hop was created by FBA.
Discredit American Freedmen... so many elders that were there have been overlooked until recently
KRS WAS NOT THERE IN THE BEGINNING!!! KRS IS FROM BROOKLYN, MOVED TO HARLEM, THEN LIVED IN THE BRONX FOR A YEAR! HE WAS NOT AROUND THE PPL IN THE BRONX IN 71! YALL NEED TO STOP!
Say it again
Exactly 💯
Exactly, plus KRS was 5 or 6 years old in 71-72.
Hip hop is not from the bronx its from Brooklyn. All the bronx dj's where trying to be like dj flowers from brooklyn. He was from Panama. Panda look that history up
@Chopping-it-up Flowers was a great dj in the 60s throughout. But Flowers was not a HH dj. Flowers was an established dj who although played outside, was a dj for the indoor older crowd! Bklyn DJs were older more established, had equipment and paying gigs. There were older Bronx indoor Disco djs as well, but they were not HH either. HH djs were broke teens and preteens who created Hip Hop in the streets! Their parents helped them get equipment. Brooklyn djs back then ridiculed The Bronx and what was going on there. They thought what The Bronx was doing was rachet and beneath them! These are facts! They thought cutting up records and spinning on your head was ridiculous. Brooklyn was not cutting records and breakdancing indoors or outdoors in 1970! Even the 'rock' dance Puerto Ricans in these 2 boros did was different from each other. If you never went to a Flowers party, watch videos of him and listen to how he plays. HH is not just music. It's what was done to the music! Now since the 2000s Brooklyn is saying they were doing HH first, but never said that in the 70s. 80s, etc. Dj and folks who were between both Boros in the early 70s will attest to this!
Wrong!! Pig meat markem, Here comes the judge, 1968
That's not hip hop that's just a rap song, rap is just an element of hip hop culture...lol
thats rap rap is old hip hop started in NYC by FBA
What about Bo Diddley's "Bo's a lumberjack"?
He's talking about the 1980's, Hip Hop started around 1971, these artists just show they will say anything to not be unliked. Krs-one just showed he's a liar cause Lord Jamar challenged him to show facts, and he didn't do anything! The same for Pete Rock, Busta Rhymes, and Crazy legs
Everyone is laughing at them on Instagram cause they talked all this stuff, and backed down from the debate
I lost so much respect for NYC Hip Hop artists once this conversation began. I can say it's a wrap for NYC in Hip Hop cause they don't care for the truth about the thing that they are doing. Makes NO sense, BUT racism goes deep in our society!
All of those mentioned are from different neighborhoods and saw different things in Busta neighborhood the biggest hip hop dj was Howie Tee a Jamaican so that’s his perspective Crazy Legs from the Bronx where his area was mixed Rocksteady crew started by a Black and Puerto Rican so in his experience it was 50/50. Gotta understand NYC to understand hip hop wasn’t the same in everywhere in the city the styles and participates varied neighborhood to neighborhood Borough to Borough ppl just need to speak from their experience and not for hip hop as a whole
@@MrWARBUCKS24 Then don't speak for the whole culture of NYC Hip Hop then, there is NO excuse for being ignorant in this era, knowledge is everywhere
@@RealDealyOr take what these niggas say with a grain of salt cause even pioneers have different views on when and where hip hop started. Hip hop is NYC culture fuck all the extra unnecessary arguments bout Blacks and Puerto Ricans cause the owners ain’t from either culture so why we go back and forth Lyor Cohen and Jimmy Iovine get the big money and cut the checks
@@RealDealy "knowledge is everywhere" - Unfortunately, this is the problem: most people are ignorant. They think "knowledge is everywhere," but what they really mean is that they have a TH-cam University PhD and talk about "receipts" like bozos without being able to break down the various types of evidence, facts, etc. You got people claiming to be historians, and their primary evidence are interviews. They don't understand basic historiographical and anthropological methods and principles. 99% of the comments under this video are full of idiots who use the same rhetoric and catch phrases.
It's never a wrap for NY in Hip Hop
If these Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans were there then from the beginning then why didn't Kid Capri show up for the Lord Jamar Cypher Debate?! Why didn't Fat Joe and Busta Rhymes and KRS show up to the debate! No foreigners had anything to do with anything that we FBA'S created and do! Bring your evidence and debate it! Show and prove! Just because a couple of foreigners came to look at us BLACK AMERICANS rap and dance don't mean they created anything! They were there to watch and be amazed at what we were doing! These immigrants are trying to use trick words to slime their way into our history! These people only watched us! They enjoyed the show! Its a difference! Tell these immigrants to debate live in front of an audience and on video. Lets get to the bottom of this the right way! Stop talking and not proving! We have our evidence!
Black Americans created hip hop no other culture did bottom line!!
All other cultures were busy in the kitchen cooking 🍳
He is talking in circles cause he is afraid to tell the truth that FBAs created Hip Hop! He side steps it by saying James Brown created it who is the epitome of a FBA!!!!
Lol. KRS-1 was 7 years old when the fabled Kool Herc party was thrown and about 5 in the 70s when what came to be known as Hip Hop began to emerge. That's only 2 years older than Kid Capri. KRS-1 is not the authority to quote as someone who was there. There are far more older people who were there, and actively participating in Hip Hop's emergence from Black American culture, who are on YT and in the movie, Microphone Check, who specifically convey that Hispanics/Latinos came later to Hip Hop. No matter how many times Capri said that he was not sure if anyone other than FBA created Hip Hop, he clearly struggled with saying it. In his mind, he knows it's Black Culture. It's hard to override a known reality.
I don’t think anyone is saying Kid Capri is the end all be all authority on the topic. He is an elder statesman in the game so I thought it was only proper to ask him. I think it’s important to have the conversation and ask what he saw. But of course there were older people there.
KRS wasn’t there from the beginning
Before breakdancing the dances were called free styling.
I seen one PR rapper in the movie Wild Style and the rest were Black People but I also seen the Rock Steady Crew who were all PR. You can watch the documentary Style Wars, the first hip hop documentary from the year 1983 from PBS, that can be watched on TH-cam, and see a bunch of white kids, in NYC, doing Graffiti. We know Black people started it but it took off so fast in NYC the whole city got in it heavy!!! I seen Wildstyle on 42nd street with my brother, that was a legendary moment.
@@amnesh And that’s the point of Hip Hop.
Style Wars was released in "1983". Black people had long abandoned breaking by then.
@@LeoThaLast Absolutely but I was just talking about the documentary, the first one when his hop was starting to be taken seriously. You seen it? And black people were breaking then at least in NYC.
@@amnesh Stye Wars"? Yes, i've seen it numerous times.
Matronix was black and pr rappers
Definitely black music started the culture,
The culture was little by little as the sound and the music and the art and lyrics evolved into hip hop culture.
Peace love unity and having fun.
The guys he named already said FBA started it.
Everybody want to walk and talk like black Americans
All I can say is that hip hop was much better in the beginning
If you're not from The Bronx at that time,
you have no say in the creation of Hip-Hop.
no, if you aint from the south,,,,the people who created hip hop came from the south, including james brown
@@lflash204 - lol
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@@lflash204 LOL name the first hip hop record, first hip hop dance, clothes etc. now where in the south did it happen??
@@martinvanburen4578 lol are you serious,,,,we created all of the dances.....go to google .....i know one thing,jamaicans and puerto ricans didnt create any thing until they came around us
James brown ..FBA … soul train ..FBA
James Brown is James Brown, Soul Train was and is Don Cornelius!!!!!!!
@@KoolKumasi and both are FBA … James brown is hip hop .. you wouldn’t have hiphop without James brown….Don Cornelius - FBA’s been dancing an having hiphop moves in the 60’s and 70’s … what dances have Puerto Ricans came up with since they add on to hiphop in the 80’s… how do they influence hiphop today not at all !!!! Jamaicans don’t influence FBA’s in no way.. cool herc couldn’t dress like and play Jamaican music back then FBA’s would clown him.. he had to dress and act like FBA’s .. what FBA’s created besides hiphop…. FBA’s created jazz, blues,country,R&B,GoGo,neo soul, Delta blues, Gospel music…. Basically all that you listen to besides (Afro beats and Reggae an dancehall) What other music have Puerto Ricans created…. Nothing !!! FBA’s are innovators and creators…we don’t have to copy or steal anyone’s style of music or fashion ….
@@Talik727
You related to them by blood?
@@Talik727
FBA created nothing, those dudes did. Stop stealing from the efforts of others. You're no different than those PR Germans who weren't involved claiming it. Gtfoh
@@KoolKumasi yea I am now what !!!!
Bro.. ya'll buggin, most of the people commenting are to young to even take a side..
I did not grow up in N.Y.C, I'll bet neither did most of you commenting .
but Ya'll may know about rap but don't know anything about foundational Hip Hop. You can't deny historically that Puerto Ricans played a MAJOR ROLE in the evolution of Hip Hop. I don't know about 50/50 cause im not from NY.
Facts , if you not in your 60's and not from New York City(Especially the Bronx) then you don't have a dog in this fight as far a creation of( EAST COAST HIP HOP) ..
But see it’s a semantics issue often. People are arguing different things. You said in your comment EVOLUTION of hip hop so you’re talking about contributions along the way right? Some people are talking INCEPTION. Very creation at the beginning. I just think we all need to be more specific when discussing this (including myself).
@@pandachopnews I agree 100% with you.
This subject stirred a beehive and put the youngins in panic mode. They trying to save RAP... not HIp Hop
@@pandachopnews Hip Hop is evolving just like the Cosmos.. think of KRS ONE like Einstein or Tesla... after rocking with KRS One for 40 years, this man has been touring , preserving the culture of Hip Hop all by himself. No one else goes to Universities since the 90's and Europe to discuss Hip Hop.. Ask yourselves, have you ever seen Lord Jamar, or anyone else traveling with KRS doing lecturer to preserve the movement and culture of Hip Hop.
NO..... no one else does it, coming from an MC perspective,
now a few rappers all of the sudden from the 90's jump on the subject... oh well we created this..
well where was yall when KRS ONE was and still is doing tours on the preservation of Hip Hop?
@@bsamboy1974 Krs 1 lecture tours was more about preserving Krs 1 then preserving hip hop he talks a lot of bullshit and myths in those lectures he’s played apart in the confusion if ppl stop trying to make hip hop some deep shit and just tell it like it was this debate would’ve been over
@@MrWARBUCKS24 I agree with you on that , yes incorporates a lot of stuff that goes off the subject. But you have to admit, if we had more MC ‘s preserving the culture and doing more than just retiring and hanging up the mic . Maybe we would not have a distorted view ..
I wish there were more from his time that would do lectures since rhe 80’z .. This may have come up 20 years ago and we could have sealed it then …
KID CAPRI IS NOT PUTTING IT IN HISTORICAL CONTEXT.. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE 80'S.
No he did. He said contribute. He can’t speak on the creation.
Kid Capri wen to JFK HS in the Bronx!
LOL, but he is talking from his experience. He is not a historian and he is not saying he knows definitively. Says he can't for say for sure. Kid Capri is the best DJ
Facts
Dude is str8 capping with that idk mess. He’s a Dj and he knows damn well when he was a kid what kind of music his parents were listening to. He knows what kind of music his uncles and aunts were listening to. I’m 100% sure it wasn’t the
music that ended up in the creation of Hip-hop. The creation of Hip hop music had no Latin influence in it at all. This is why he says James Brown started it. He also knows in the late 60’s early 70s Blacks and Puerto Ricans weren’t rocking with each other like that.
@@docblake599 wth are you talking about. Kid capri ain’t Hispanic 😂
Capri trying to be politically correct but he know they weren’t there we dressed like Puerto Ricans they dressed like FBA 💯
Nobody dress like fba!! fba are racist!
FBA some Internet 🛜 issssh no one dresses like a southern fba country bumpkin
The first PR rapper Whipper Whip admit that Puerto Ricans got their style of dress from Black Americans and they started dressing fly years later. He also admitted that Black Americans created Hip Hop.
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Crazy, this is exactly how other music genre in America was treated. Rock n roll, Jazz, Blues and country music. All those genre dilluted American Freedmen.
He's talking about the 80s
Is panda chop Latino???
Prince Markie D of the legendary fat boys originally the disco 3 was Puerto Rican. not saying Ricans started it but they definitely contributed.
@@ES-hy7jc how can u rewrite history while most the participants are still alive. 🇵🇷 hip hop since since 73
Tito with the Fearless 4 Rockin it !! Rockin it !! Too. BORICUAS 🇵🇷Always Represent Hip Hop !!
He wasn't there in 73
Noone said PR's didn't contribute. They didn't create anything
A lot ppl don't know 70-71.. And Herc clearly said out his mouth, a few names that did graffiti, and how use to dance before he started to DJ. Also Black Spades, DJ Phase all said how they partied in The Puzzle, Plaza Tunnel and few other places. Hevlow. Coke La Rock as well. He showed The Twilight & Hevlow , that's where Herc pretty much got it start.
I was 14 years old in 1975. It all starts with the music. Without the music, the art work is just graffiti. Without the music, the break dancing is just some people catching a fit. Never mind that alot of those moves were developed during the roaring 20's by Black Americans. And let's be clear that the rudiments of the music used in hiphop is R&B, Soul, Jazz and Blues. All a Black American creations. THE MUSIC. THE BEAT. THE RHYTHM. THE STORY OF OPPRESSION IN RHYME & FLOW.
Hip-Hop is a Bronx creation.
young black youth from the bronx
James brown from the south
@@intelligentHoodGenius586still black FBA
Neither neighborhoods, cities, or states create a culture. The same is true for when some say Hip Hop is street culture. Neither of those things creates culture. Only people create culture. In the very segregated Bronx area of the early 70s, Black American youth created Hip Hop, sampling the many musical facets of their cultural heritage. There's no other cultural DNA from any other "culture" in Hip Hop. No matter who comes in to participate in a culture, their ancestry does not change that culture into being the product of their ancestors. Their lineage does not override the true lineage. If they want their lineage or nationality to be uplifted in what they do, they should go do something in their own cultural heritage. Don't try to plant your flag on Black American Cultural Heritage, or anyone else's for that matter. Be proud of your own heritage and, thereby, respectful of your ancestors. Cosplaying and coveting another lineage dishonors your ancestors.
FBA
Nobody is trying to take away Puerto Ricans or Jamaican contributions to the culture but they didn't make urban black culture in America, we were doing that before they were even in the country, they didn't create urban black culture.
You wasn't doing nothing, you have no talent chill nicca especially you not from the X!!!!!!
“I don’t know” “I can’t say for sure”😂
What up Kidd Capri👑👑🎖️, Thank you brother ‼️‼️‼️
Funny how the interviewer is trying to keep the lie going 😂😂😂.
How am I? I’m literally asking him about the topic that’s going on right now. Idk what the truth is cuz I wasn’t there. I’m asking him cuz he was there
@@pandachopnewsGo ask the fake GodFather of Hiphop Kool herc why was he trying to be DJ Mario Kool herc the same guy who couldn’t Rap,Break dance or dress was a lousy DJ who never had a album or a song never produced a artist his bread and butter was one break beat not even the first break beat lol Godfather of lies go ask flash did Pete DJ Jones teach him everything he knows ask KRS was he only in the Bronx because he was homeless living in a Bronx shelter and why he never says he’s originally from Brooklyn all the lies debunked with Microphone check .
You said to bro so you agree with KRS knowing this whole interview he is telling you no. He really saying hit up the people who where there because they are still alive and not the people after.
Thanks for dealing with this topic @pandachop I’ve been a part of the debate I don’t think any Puerto Rican is saying we started it rather we helped push the culture forward from day one but now you have ppl lord Jamar lol tryn to discredit kool herc,and also taking out the graph and breaking cuz we dominate in those areas so now according to them it’s not really apart of hip hop only rapping and djing 🤦🏽♂️🇵🇷🇵🇷
@@Xeroxattnp idk all the specifics because I wasn’t there but that’s why I try to ask people that have had long tenures in hip hop what they SAW. It’s just such an emotional conversation for people. I just hope we can have a productive conversation about it
@@pandachopnews I agree I’m actually more interested in how can we preserve the culture in its original form and not have it be watered down that’s the better conversation 🔥
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@@pandachopnews rewind the clip from one ☝️ of the OG’s MC SHAN!
Rewind?
Hip-hop has become a multi billon dollar industry. It wasn't always so and wasn't always received by certain groups.
Now that has changed, it has so much pull and influence (Olympics?) That's why we're having this dialogue on who created it.
I think it's great. The myths need to be dispelled and the facts laid bare on who created this magnificent culture and those who contributed to it.
Puerto Ricans flipped breaking to what it is today. They totally elevated the dance from what the black brothers created in the early 70s.
No no FBA from the start ONLY
The Jubalaries, Ruddy Ray Moore, Big Brown the poet, and Gil Scott Herron were the first to cut Rap Albums
Dude kid capri you lived on field place Morris Ave 183 across from 115 junior high on the 2nd floor back in the 70's early 80's. All you saw was black and puerto ricans outside .
Where those black Puerto Ricans or white Puerto Ricans, that is the confusion because all these white Puerto Ricans are out here claiming.
@@colberthunter12doesn't matter. Puerto Rican is Puerto Rican regardless of skin color. Might be a little too much for you to comprehend.
They're right about that, hip hop is a art that u can't stop .... 1980's
HipHop is an urban culture. Art of the street. People of color have the same rhythm, same beat to the drum, but speak a different language. Black people are not just in USA or Africa. Black people are all over the world. All aboriginal people are black.
I believe both sides are arguing two different things. Hip Hop in essence was from black culture but as it evolved Puerto Ricans was part of contributing to mainly breaking and graffiti element and fashion later. There were not many but some DJs or rappers early on maybe a few here and there but rapping was mostly dominated by blacks. Prince Markie D, Mellow-man Ace, Kid Frost came later on. We didn’t get much attention until Cypress Hill came on the scene, followed my Fat Joe and Big Pun and others that people were not aware of their heritage the that were recognized later in the 90’s.
Puerto Ricans and other Latinos was definitely present and contributed but the essence is black culture and not Puerto Rican culture. Nuyoricans are 2nd generation not the same as our Parents that migrated to NYC in in the 1940’s and 50’s. So as it evolved they experienced the struggle together. It wasn’t till later on that Latinos infused their culture to Hip Hop.
I can appreciate this. Thank you for sharing 🙏
Puerto ricans never influenced that fashion of hip hop nor nyc. Black Americans lead in all areas of hip hop culture because its our creation
@@uptownbladebrown Alpo is Puerto Rican. And everybody copied his style. Everybody in New York copied his style!!!
We always had style and thats due to our SHARED ancestors, thats the disconnect FBAs are refusing to acknowledge
@@uptownbladebrown I respectfully disagree. Nuyoricans had so much style especially the ladies so I was in the Bronx and it was in plain sight. As I said the origins of hip hop has always been black. If you know you know.
50/50 is crazy. There are little, next to no examples the first 7 years before Hip Hop had commercial success and what another 10 years after success that you hear Spanish words or see Puerto Ricans on the music side. The dancing side has Blacks way before anybody as well. Puerto Ricans were definitely present, as I was living in the Bronx at that time but that doesn't mean they were contributing in their own cultural way - but many don't consider graffiti Hip Hop. Overall Puerto Ricans were mimicking Black Americans, not co-creating. There would be some manifestation of co-creating at 10 percent. But almost no manifestation in the music and dancing is crazy.
Why are people even bringing stuff like this up after all these years, they sure know how to divide and conquer.
People talk like Hiphop was created in a lab or in a vacuum. But to me, it's clearly an art of music immitating the life of Black Americans since the 1800s and just morphed into a new form of expression of that 60s and 70s generation being recorded on wax. Attributing it to other groups sounds wild to me. If it didn't start in the Bronx, it would have started in the South, cus Blacks in the Bronx or NY had families in the South and other parts of the country. They make is sound like there's a divide between Black Americans in NY and the South or LA. They're all the same family.
All I know is there's literally no FBA who controls ANYTHING about Hip Hop, why is that?
Commercialization. That has nothing to do with the question about who created it.
Now that was a honest take. You gotta be there to know. I was born in the south Bronx by Crotona in 72. And I ain’t qualified to tell you for sure. I was 1.
The Boricuas🇵🇷 that are darker than him and Lord Jamar been there since day one.
The Boricua🇵🇷 population was the biggest in the BX as well.
Cap lol
Hip Hop is 100% Black American made. You Puerto Ricans don't even like Blacks. Y'all just seen we made better music than y'all, and y'all wanted to chill with Blacks and then claim our music.
@@kas3583If you ain’t from the BX your opinion is irrelevant.
@@mrfixit6669 I was born in the Bronx 😂
And had race politics
How many times a Hip Hop pioneer has to say this? Hip Hop comes from funk,blues,jazz,soul,R&B tell me which one of those came from Puerto Rico.
Interview Just Ice he was there but stop with the division already Hip Hop like every single music art form was created by Black people BUT Puerto Ricans definitely made Contributions to to it which help advance it with DJs Break Dancers Graffiti MCing
It’s doing my due diligence in asking an elder statesman that was around and asking what he saw. Idk I wasn’t there so I’m asking him.
Only three elements DJ ,Rhyming, and Sampling records
breakdancing was a fad real elements don’t fade away graffiti is the same as burnt out buildings and subways all have nothing to do with Black American music called Hiphop if one Puerto Rican was beat boxing back then Beat boxing would be a element 😂
1:35 How can Puerto Ricans bring break dancing to hip hop if it already existed in 71-73? Popularizing something is not creating it.
James Brown used Latin rhythms and percussions so clearly they had something to do with that.
Alotta Those Latin Rhythms Have African Undertones
Theres no such thing as latin percussion. James brown may have used a latin rhythm in one or two songs but that wasnt a staple in his music. James brown music is funk
Lets not talk about how latinos copy every music genres Black Americans create. Like latin jazz, latin funk, latin rock etc etc etc
Exactly it's that kid capri doesn't want to sit there and explain all that or Maybe he doesn't know
@@airpegasus5167puerto ricans are mix with African
This is ridiculous! There are tons of videos showing Blacks doing the rudiments of break dancing, rapping and graffiti art from the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s etc. We can’t have Nothing for ourselves! Damn!
KID CAPRI TAP DANCING HE JUST TOLD YOU JAMES BROWN ISTHE FATHER OF HIP HOP WHO IS FBA AND BLACK YOUTH WAS RHYMING OVER THOSE BEATS LATINOS COPIED US, BREAKING IS FROM BLACK AMERICAN YOUTH & GRAFITTI
If James was the source then Black culture was the birth.
Black Americans have been rapping and break dancing since the 30s you can look it up a 30-minute research on TH-cam. There are even books about it we are The originators of hip Hop
crazy legs from rock steady crew said that when he was bboying the latin community would clown him and say " what are you doing that for, thats that moreno style" meaning, thats a black dance. Then once it became popular more latinos gravitated towards it.
If anyone is interested in watching an early Hip-Hop concert, go check the footage of James Brown playing the Boston Garden on the night of April 5th 1968 (hours after the assassination of Martin Luther King).
Do you have a link?
@@pandachopnews The full concert used to be on here years ago. That I could find now, there is a playlist: "James Brown live at the Boston Garden (1968)". Also a good documentary available titled "The Night James Brown Saved Boston".
Bruh ppl cuba were rapping in the 1800s in cuba and improvising over drums and bass in the 30s. Jamaicans were the first to do a remix in the 60s or make a record on wax long before NY hip hop was named
Hip-hop was created by God for the people in the streets to finally be heard and the people in those streets where both black and p.r...this conversation only creates a divide!!!
I AGREE.
EXACTLY! but panda likes the buchinche he's like a lil instigater that scared to ever show his face
WELL SAID! It's ALWAYS BEEN AROUND
Puerto ricans and jamaicans had to assimilate into hip hop which was created by Black Americans. Thats how some of yall got heard
BS. It was created by BLACK AMERICANS .. everyone else is a guest
Breakdancing is a dead form. It was played out in the 70’s. Hip hop dancing is still evolving, an PRs have not created one hip hop dance since hip hop began.
You can't ask too many people in the industry because they have to appeal to keep up their little image they don't want to offend anyone but I'm sure you can find a few brave enough to tell the absolutely undeniable truth which is CREATION black American youth did
Why is Kid Capri focusing on records? We started this thing way before records. There weren't many people DJ'ing or breaking. The first ones were all black.Just say what it is. I don't understand why it is a problem to state the facts. I don't give a damn about how anyone is going to feel about hearing the truth.
Raheim of da Furious 5 WHO WAS THERE said BLACKS created hip hop. He said yes Ricans were around observing BUT dey didn't contribute 2 da CREATION of hip hop. He said da Ricans studied dem 2 contribute lata on. Also bak den Ricans n Blks didn't get along like 2day he said da 1s da hung out wit blks were outcasts 2 dey family.
kid Capri is saying what founders are saying pr are jamaicans did not create hip hop but they did help them carry it up and over the mountain
Hip hop was created by James Brown is a new answer for me. Interesting perspective from Kid Capri.
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Call Just Ice.
Talk about leading questions !!!
That’s the answer: JAMES BROWN!
Hip🎤Hop🤸🏽🤸🎨🚊🖌️🚆 comes from the dark skin shade that carries the Taino and African DNA 🧬 and the blueprint is the Harlemhellfighters band which had AA✊🏾and Afro-Boricuas🇵🇷✊🏾 like Roberto⚾️Clemente✊🏾.
Faizon Love is a Afro-Cuban🇨🇺 and dark skin people that were dropped off on islands in boats who came to NYC🗽helped create this music and it comes from the African DNA🧬 and that’s it✌🏽
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Spot on brother 👏 peace KID
Rap and hip hop started BEFORE James Brown was even born..It started in the 1920s with black Americans..NO Hispanics in sight!!..Also black American man "Pig Meat" Markam continued rap and hip hop in the late 60s with his song "Here Comes the Judge"..NO Puerto Ricans in sight!!..Then when I was in high school in 1978 The Sugar Hill gang came out with "Rappers Delight"..White and Puerto Ricans didn't know what it was and said it sounded stupid!..Only black Americans are the creators of rap, hip hop and break dancing..
Hip hop was created by new yorkers...there was no FBA listening or supporting hip hop outside NYC. Actually hip hop was rejected by FBA. They were into disco and R&B. Bunch of Puerto Ricans , Jamaicans were new yorkers too as those black people in NYC.
Facts mad love kid capri
Divine Latinos in Puerto Rican never have receipts
I'm listening to Common & Pete Rock's new album to care about this none sense.
This album is boring as fuck
In truth a it is a Southern soul creation ,without southern funk and soul ,you have none of the foundational brake beats which were later played at parties and became samples.
First breaks used for parties were not from James Brown's records....Kool Herc mentioned the first records he started to use the breaks from and theyvwere not James Brown's
Herc also said he got everything from Black Americans and did his own spin smfh
That's a LIE. He CLEARLY states he was playing James Brown records.WHY did you write that BS??
@@terrellcuevo2369James Brown was one of the many records played ppl got this narrative like all they played was James Brown
@@MrWARBUCKS24 why don't all the legendary hip-hop rappers/producers/writers/independent record labels come from Jamaica or Puerto Rico? They all come from America and foundational black americans
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Kid Capri talking about the 80's lol
KID CAPRI TELLING YOU INTERNET GEN Z GOOFIES....YOU WASN'T THERE! SO DON'T SPECULATE! GO SEE THE ONES THAT WERE THERE!