I'm calling CAP on Kid Capri for saying it doesn't matter who CREATED it, we are all supposed to enjoy it. People only say these when Black Americans establish claim for our creations.
@monsutaman1 kid Capri is black for the record. Hes from a time in new york city where most back people like %97 were descendants of southern migrants. It really wasn't until the last 25 years where black people became of carribean descent.
But it isn't black American culture. Its New York street culture. You know how many black people would take offense to you generalizing it as black culture? You know why? Because they're not from the hoods or streets of New York or any ghetto. So its not there culture
@ don’t be ridiculous.. stop nick picking …whether they’re from the lower class or middle class or whatever.. they belong to a collective group of black people. They’re not from the street . The young people who started it are the children of working and middle class families. No different to the teenagers who started rock and roll or Doo Wop in the 50s and 60s who came from working families in Detroit or any other city.
@@djh2367and those same black people from the slums or ghettos of NYC were descendants of escaped slaves from the South so get your history right if youre going ro nitpick it....make sure you nitpick it right 🤡
He answered the question. He said #1. Puerto Ricans did not invent hip hop. and #2. But they were there. Being there and creating/inventing something are two totally different things.
😂😂👉👉👉🇵🇷Hip-hop music culture is a product of African American, Afro-Caribbean and Latino inner-city communities plagued by poverty, the proliferation of drugs, and gang violence in the 1960s and early 1970s. By providing the youth with a sense of identity and belonging, Hip-Hop's strong influence fosters a sense of unity.Hip-Hop is one of the most vibrant products of the late 20th century youth culture. Now York Puerto Ricans have been key participants, as producers and consumers of the culture and hip-hop art forms since hip-hop's very beginning during the early 1970's in the South Bronx.Many of the so-called founding fathers of hip hop were of Latin American and/or Caribbean origin, including DJ Kool Herc (Jamaican), DJ Disco Wiz (Puerto Rican and Cuban descent), Grandmaster Flash (Bajan), and Afrika Bambaataa (Jamaican and Bajan descentClive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop, Campbell began playing hard funk records of the sort typified by James Brown. Campbell began to isolate the instrumental portion of the record which emphasized the drum beat-the "break"-and switch from one break to another. Using the same two-turntable set-up of disco DJs, he used two copies of the same record to elongate the break. This breakbeat DJing, using funky drum solos, formed the basis of hip hop music. Campbell's announcements and exhortations to dancers helped lead to the syncopated, rhythmically spoken accompaniment now known as rapping.For years, Puerto Ricans have been involved in the middle of the hip hop revolution throughout its history whether it was through breakdancing, djing, and eventually the MC's. One of the first DJ's to have come into prominence is DJ Charlie Chase of the Cold Crush Brothers.African American tend to view it as exclusively their own, and even Puerto Ricans and other Latinos tend to view it as "black" music. However, its birth and development were a joint creative effort of African American and Latino Afro Caribbean youngsters, particularly, Puerto Ricans.
I’m black from nyc if u wanna be totally honest Latinos did help create HIPHOP because HIPHOP was started by gangs n the Bronx and Latinos was apart of those gangs Facts💯💯
Sounds like they were there *watching* the Black kids invent hip hop and party with hip hop. They watched and learned. Then joined in. That's how it goes. You see it, then learn it.
Yeah I was there some of the black kids were watching the Puerto Rican kids. If it wasn't for the Hispanic community within hip hop graffiti and breakdancer wouldn't have flourished the way it did.
@@ronaldmarshall5398hahahahs! Hispanics didn't create graffiti or break dancing. They learned it from black Americans. By the way, those are all parts of hip hop that faded away.
@@ronaldmarshall5398Black people didn't need Puerto Ricans. We've started every genre that's in here America. We didn't need Puerto Ricans for folk music, we didn't need Puerto Ricans for jazz, we didn't need Puerto Ricans for blues, we didn't need Puerto Ricans when we created rock and roll as well. We don't need Puerto Ricans to start any music genre. We've created all those music genres without a Puerto Rican in sight.
@@Maasai-ElThank You!!! He saw what happened to fat Joe and he doesn't want to get canceled so he's trying to stand for his people and say nothing bad about black people. He's been in NYC all his life and knows the truth but don't want to give NYC black Americans there due. He doesn't understand playing both sides of the fence van also get you canceled.🤥🤥👀
"FBA" is exclusionary term that tries to delineate black americans. by saying "FBA" you exclude black people that have been in American since the early 1900s. the only thing that "FBA" created is confusion and devision between blacks in america.
@@swollencolon1127Black is a state of mind not a Freedman descendant lineage aka FBA. Cosplaying Freedman descendants is over. Delineation is clearly common sense in 2025.
@@swollencolon1127Actually it doesn't the only thing FBA is about is Black people who can trace their ancestry back to slavery in the United States. It means nothing more and no Puerto Ricans wasn't apart of hip hop just listen how long it takes him to answer the question. He telling his truth but not the Truth!!
James Brown knew what he was calling rapping because that was Black American lengo for ( let me spit some game to you, let me talk to you )or let me rap to you, that's what it meant, so it was named rap music.
The Brits use the word all the time. It got passed down from the colonizers. It’s just a word guys. Next thing you’re going to say is the first person on the moon was an FBA because you heard about it in a rap lyric. 😂
@@Chopping-it-up Exactly. Like our ancestors weren't raped. Genocided. Tortured. Land stolen from. Kid Capri kicked intellectual and mature bars here. Lord Jamar hatin ass should take notes of how "wise" man should speak. So called 5%'er talking like a "massa" against everyone else. The man isn't even African American. He Guyanese. Music is for everyone and not ONE people's alone struggled in history. This is just to create division. The government knows what it's doing.
Me and Kid Cap is the same age and both from the Bronx, I know for a fact that Black Americans started Hip Hop and a few Puerto Ricans join the Black Americans Rap and D J crews, like DJ Charlie Chase, M.C Ruby D, Whipper Whip and the Devastating Tito From the Fearless Four M.C's. Now who was before them that was Puerto Rican?
@Chopping-it-up you're the hater and there's NOTHING Latinos have done to help black Americans with our struggle in America. The very freedoms Latinos have are a result of the blood, sweat and tears of black Americans.
Now that hip hop is a standard, everyone was involved in its inception but believe me, in the beginning the black community took all the hits and negative backlash about hip hop.
@@JessicaLanear nope wrong answer everybody was not involved in it , it was created designed and nurtured by black people from the inception the beginning ya DiG don’t get it twisted you should already know this !!
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
Blues is bigger. Hip hop is huge, though. I think of it as coming out of the culture of the Bronx and I think that's all some folks are saying. No doubt, the music styles were from Black Americans and then expanded to other types.
This is true. But monetarily and influentially, we absolutely have not reaped the benefits nor on any financial aspects of each genre that you have mentioned. Fighting for symbolism and low hanging fruit that’s the sad part. Caucasian and EuropeanJews have made more money from all the genres that you have mentioned then we can even fathom, but we are worried about division amongst melanated peoples
@@everythingdivineRETARD YOU SPEAK ENGLISH BUT YOU’ER NOT ENGLISH!! SPAIN IS A COUNTRY IN EUROPE NOT SOUTH AMERICA!! YOU’ER PARENTS ARE CLEARLY FAILURES!!!
Why is it so difficult for Hispanics to admit they didn't create any element of Hip-Hop They may have had their say so AFTER it was created but foundational hip hop is a BLACK art form
@@alexperry2014 the current administration (Including Kamala) is working on changing that. California has a bill on the governor's desk about giving public assistance, loans, healthcare, and a head start on the American dream meaning an interest free loan. Just to name a couple of the benefits they'll get.
Who’s these other races I don’t emulate Chinese people or whites when I’m following rap music in emulating a black person from the ghetto stop tryint to steal our shit ain’t nobody add to hip hop but black people im Jamaican I will never let no Jamaican say they added to hip hop cause biggie is Jamaican African Americans made hip hop biggie was raised in America an born here an followed African American culture I’m Jamaican I speak African American slang which African Americans made I don’t speak like no Puerto Rico
Exactly! Our ancestors built American music in general!! From Gospel, Ragtime, Jazz, Rock, Soul, Funk, RnB and Hip Hop! Spanish people were nothing but mere participants💯
I bet you Kid Capri would take offense to any bl;k person , American, that said we African Americans contributed to Salsa! Kid Capri was put on by blk people!
The brothas created the music that was mixed by Jamericans like Herc then came others, and Ricans contributed... But the culture? I don't know mane, the culture was something that couldn't be created. It was lived. The culture is too BX and you can spot a Hip Hop BX native wherever we go around the globe. Even in BK they can spot a BX ninja. Back in our own islands they can spot a BX native. Whether Nuyoricans, Jamericans, or Bl Americans, our parents and the older kids didn't like our new swag. We were eager not to copy them and therefore it was not copied from one ethnicity. We didn't go for that. We were a new breed. It's a BX thang, it was passed the struggle. It was more like dominance, pride, and unity... All three swags together in one individual and it was not for all BX residents... Not everyone is about that life. Something no one can explain. That's the issue here... Just sayin'.
@@eachoneteachone8320Herc learned from earlier Djs this narrative that everything was brought from Jamaicans is false..A lot of pioneers said Herc wasn’t that skilled on the tables
I think it all began when humans first started living. Gotta give a shout out to all my neadrathals out there! Ya dig? I’m totally joking…but if we all wanna get really technical 😂
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
@@khairt1731 If your building a house and the mothafuckaz that live next door didn’t hand you a hammer or a nail they just watched you work. Did they help you build the house? Just because they were there? NO! Dumass!
Straight ppl want to point out cypress hill and Cuban linx they bridged a gap a lil bit and got Latinos into hip-hop but did not create hip-hop. And I don't know many "black" ppl that listen to them or even reggaton unless they are Spanish speaking
Spanish breakbeats are hip hop records 4:34 . The Mexican , etc . all those break beat bands had Spanish members . Hip Hop never kicked anybody out the culture . That’s new sh!t
@@JDiggiti hip hop was created from existing music using a turn table. That doesn’t mean Hispanics created hip hop. They didn’t. James Brown was also sampled and so were many others.
He basically said what's already been said. Latinos were there. What he didn't say was that the Latino culture didn't influence hip hop. If it went back to the 40s, and it started with James, then there's your answer.
First rap I remember was over disco beats. But, I'm not sure. James is funk. I don't agree that he's hip hop. James was his own globe but he sang and danced incredibly. He didn't spit bars. I don't think anyone rapped until the 1970s. The stuff before was speaking rhythmically over a beat and that was done by not only Black people. It wasn't funk beats but it was rhythmic. By definition, poetry is syllables in a rhythmic rhyming scheme.
@benjaminsmith2287 Interesting.. The first rap song I ever heard was over funk music. Look up the artist, King Tim the III, the song was called Fat Back. There was definitely a funk base bumping out of my mother's Zenith system back in 1978. The Sugar Hill Gang came after that. James definitely brought the funk and the attitude. His music is the most sampled in hip hop... Not Tito Puente, Not Willie Rosario, not Oscar DeLeon ( respectively). FBA . From James Brown, to Chic, to Earth Wind and Fire, Diana Ross, Donna Summer, and every other band I didn't mention. Be it Fat Joe or Busta Rhymes, they adapted to black American culture, PERIOD.
The problem is that black people don’t want to be white when it’s convenient. If you did that all of our brothers and sisters would be rich!!! I chose one day that I wanna be white and look at me now. Stop tryna be the victim and get your money up, homeboy!!! I can’t ever be white but I can live white!!!
@@sand216 still would have been big with out,Latinos we kept evolving. Everying Latinos doing now is still based on how blacks do it. Ya look up to us. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow
So after 50 years. How come now people say it only me. So peace love and unity. How are we now arguing. Over 50 years of unity. Funny. Kind of like whites only. Music for everyone
Black Americans at one point was gonna put hip hop down just like everything else we invented, get tired of it and throw it away. Caribbean ppl was so enamored by our creativity they said “damn y’all just gonna leave it alone?” So they took what we were doing and brought it mainstream. We black Americans created it just like every musical genre in the United States.
Hispanic people never called himself Spanish. I only here ignorant black folks, who aren't aware of ethnicity and race, call them Spanish. Spain is a country in Europe, has nothing to do with Hispanics. Hispanics speak the language of the colonizers, which were from Spain. Just like we were forced to speak the language of our colonizers, which is English. That don't make me English, I'm "Black".
Well then teach them how and why instead of just “hoping” and telling them they should stop when most of them have no idea why they’re referring to and speaking Spanish in the first place. Us black folk is speaking a language that’s not even our own, so what are exactly are you saying?? You’re just talking to be talking. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@tyrn25 the reason his tap dancing because many boricua are his fan base but you can't hide the truth that's like saying salsa music was invented by African american which was invented by latinos they have their lane and we have ours at the end we are united by the struggle
@tyrn25 I also grew up in the bronx at that moment first rap song I heard was from the sugar hill gang Curtis blow furious five and so on popping was a african american way of dancing the break dancing it was us puerto rican so together show a path for young black and brown people a way out for that we are both bless
@WilfredoSanchez-e9o Yes sir.But Fat Joe Saying hip hop was created 50 50 was some bullshit.You have to admit most Latino parents didn't allow blacks in there homes at that time.And they called hip hop jungle music.
@@Celestial-City No he didn't....he tap danced around it then painted a picture that if you put 2 & 2 together you should/might figure it out. Come on son!
Black Americans Created Hip Hop. 50 60 years ago it was a handful of black people who were tolerated, excepted into a Spanish home. What these Hispanics don't speak about is how they grandparents and mothers and fathers were Very much Racist. So Please Miss me with we all got along shit. Yes some did but for the most they didn't care for black Americans. I witnessed it with my own eyes.
This kinda reminds me of these internet surveys when they ask who’s the greatest rapper of all time and it always come back As Eminem as the answer, that’s when you know they not asking black folks their opinion cuz I’ve never bought an Eminem album and I’ve never listened to his shit in my car
He's very tricky and I'm talking about the host of this show. Are you saying created or contribute because of course Puerto Ricans contribute but they didn't create. Stop pretending Puerto Ricans and black youth were hanging together in the beginning. When they started hanging together they were emulating black culture and not the other way around because if it was the other way around then we would be speaking Spanish. Puerto Ricans don't like to tell you how they are divided and how they try to run away from their blackness like Dominicans. Oh hip hop is popular so now it's different. You see this guy knows it's important on knowing who is the foundation of any entity because they are the ones that will get the money and the credit. He knows if hip hop came from the island then he would definitely stick his chest out but he can't because he also knows black people without Puerto Ricans created hip hop. Everyone contributed after the ball was rolling
U puerto rican ???? If not are you from nyc especially the bronx? From that Era? If no to all u can't speak. I already it's no to all because of the way you're writing I bet you from the south and no nothing about puerto rican. The only Hispanics you encountered are probably Mexicans and Mexicans pks with blacks too
People always want it not to be a big deal when it comes to black Americans and out Culture.. and that's the problem and why we now identify as FBA and gatekeeping our culture
What does that even mean ? U writing like you are alone in the struggle Read up on some books during the Civil War and how hispanic helped blacks get out of the south Recommend some of juan Carlos de la Cruz writings
A lot of people can be around when rap started but we all know that no other language would ever compare to a Black using the English language to create rhyme schemes to a beat.
@@ceeIoccan’t even say a splash. There’s a lot of Hispanics from Puerto Rico who have little to no white or Indian in them where they’re majority Africa. It really varies from person to person.
@@matrix2030x lol Spanish is not a race, it’s a language. Hispanics or Latinos are considered what they are due to them being a mixture of Native Americans, Africans and European. Remember Spain is located in Europe which is where the Spanish language derived from.
1970-1971 Kids from Bronxdale Houses (Members of Black Spades) brought breakbeats to DJ Disco King Mario to play at the park jams! That was the beginning in the Bronx.
Salute to the homie Kairi from Brooklyn, a African/Puerto Rican who let us stay with him when we went to the NYC over a decade ago to pursue our rap dreams.
Kool Herc playing records at parties does not make him a pioneer of hip-hop. The people who actually made the music are the pioneer. Herc was a fan of hip-hop, he created nothing.
Kool herc played black American music because black Americans didn't want to listen to jamaican and let's keep it real black Americans have the best music we have chuck berry etc james brown
Hip-Hop jams were happening before that moment... word to Disco King Mario who was the first DJ to book a party at High School 123. Also before Herc was DJ Smokey & The Smokatrons, Kool DJ Dee plus a few more Bronx area DJs.
Not false bro, Latinos is a mixed race of the European, Meso Americans and Africans (West Africans). Genres like Salsa derive from all the influences above!
Africa is a broad continent with so many different types of music from stuff that sounds like Arabic music to stuff that now sounds like American hip hop. There is West African culture retained in Latin America. Some areas even speak Yoruba and practice animist religions. There is a lot of percussion in some Latino music for a long time and they use the African clave. But there's a lot of Spanish culture in the Caribbean as well. It's a blending of cultures.
One time I was in the kitchen while my mom prepared a big feast. I learned by watching her cook but I will not take credit for helping prepare the feast. I was then able to prepare a feast as well from being present and watching her.
KID CAPRI DEFINITELY NEEDS HIS RECOGNITION AND FLOWERS WHILE HE'S HERE GRINDING IF PEOPLE ISN'T GOING TO GIVE HIM HIS FLOWERS THEN I WILL AND IM GOING TO KEEP DOING THAT UNTIL THEY SEE IT HE'S STILL CONSIDERED ONE THE PIONEERS OF HIP HOP OF ALL TIME STILL TO THIS DAY. I WANT TO HOPEFULLY MEET KID CAPRI ONE DAY IF THAT'S POSSIBLE
He's still working and making money off of hip Hop so I'm pretty sure he has a lot of flowers. Well deserve but the point is the creators who are still alive are not receiving any revenue and your idol knows it and that's the disgusting part. Yeah feel free to continue your worshipping and hopefully you're not sacrificing any sheep or anything like that
Why is he tap dancing with the answer. This is no way no Hispanic’s created hip hop. They are the first students of hip hop. Nothing wrong with that. FBA are the creators of hip-hop.
As a New Yorker, i can see what he is saying. If you look at the census of the early 70s in the Bronx, where hiphop was curated there was already a heavy population of Ricans and even some Jamaicans and i dont mean 1st generations. The ghetto (specially the BX in those days) was a waisteland of the outcasts of America. The Last Poets had a Puerto Rican as a member in the 70s. As seen in other pop stuff based in NY like The Westside Story. Also look up 70s NYC street gangs & there were street gangs such as Savage Nomads, Black Spades that had Ricans that were made up largely of or had Ricans in the gangs. I can see most people in the larger América dont understand the dynamics of NYC because they are more "black & white" but we different & this IS where hiphop was formulated & nurtured NYC is a country state & city
Reason being, The offspring of the creatures of Soul music in America are tired of everyone taking our ancestors creations and narrating the origin story of it, for themselves that's why!
@@ceeIoc I think it’s more…what does their struggle have to do with ours? And even more what does it have to do with black Americans being the creators of hip hop?
There's a video of Fat Joe as a teen watching black americans express themselves in a hip hop fashion in the late 80's. The blacks were dancing and Fat Joe was on the wall observing. That's the same thing that happened in the early 70's The Puerto Ricans(very few of them at the time) were the first to observe the Black Americans express what came to be known as hip hip culture. The proof is in the recipe. All the ingredients that made Hip Hop culture are fundamentally FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN with no Caribbean or African or Asian or influence!
It's so good to see kid capri still around, looking healthy, in his right mind and doing well 🙏. We love you king, be well,and continue to do what you're doing 🫡.
James Brown should be considered one of the biggest musical influencer. He was called the god father a soul, influenced the creation of funk which had a major impact on hip-hop.
It shouldn't matter but it matters. In this world where blacks are thought of as the lowest, have the lowest wealth in this country and our history is always surviving struggle in which other groups have piggy backed off whether that's the collective gays or the Jews, we need to take ownership of what we created. Although I'm not proud of how debased it's become, it's still a genre of music that blacks need to have total credit for. I'm tired of this rewriting of history.
Are we the lowest? I see better representation of Black people in the media than I see Asians and Indians and especially Native Americans. We have prominent politicians and lawyers. We have two Black supreme court justices (you may not like one of them but he is Black). Are Native Americans overall doing better than Black Americans? Take ownership of what we're doing wrong as a community is what we should do. Take ownership of giving up our community to criminals is what we should do. And there is a breakdown of the Black American family. That's the stuff we need to prioritize.
Enough Black People welcome everyone, so there would be no issues. Prob is - some people from other Dark Skinned races don't want to be associated with Black Americans and point out the distinctions. So here we are. If those other Dark Skins didn't trip, it would be all love.
No, Puerto Ricans weren't present when Kool Herc played his first breaks parties, contrary to what Kid Capri says: it's been confirmed by Trixie and lots of original b-boys who say they didn't see any Puerto Ricans at Kool Herc's first parties. You've got to stop spreading lies because you don't know the history of hip-hop. Or else give us the names of the Puerto Ricans who claimed to be present in 1973, 1974 or even 1975 at Kool Herc's parties? Puerto Ricans weren't around when breakdance was created because breakdance was born in the circles of the first generation of Herculoids and the original b-boys were all black. Some of these original b-boys, such as Eldorado Mike, trained Puerto Ricans in breakdance, as did Bom5, who admitted that his breakdance mentors were Sisqo, Eldorado Mike, Phase 2 and Zulu King Beaver (all black).
And when Kid Capri says that Kool Herc played funk, it's hard to believe that he really understands what hip-hop is made of. Hip-hop was based on BREAKS of funk, soul and R&B. It's not the funk music that defines hip-hop, damn it, but the breaks in that music! B-boys danced to breaks called “obscure sounds”. Playing funk didn't make you a hip-hop DJ. There was a difference between “breaks DJs” and “disco DJs”.
@KahmPiankhy wouldnt be no breaks to go off on if those black artists didnt create those funk and r&b songs and emulate James Brown and them. Hip Hop is not just dancing its an attitude and a swagger
@Bone_youtube_soft When breaking first emerged in The Bronx, New York, of the 1970s, it was a dance practiced almost exclusively by African American teenagers. Yet, most scholarly accounts of the dance have focused on Latino/a youth and media narratives from the 1980s onwards to contextualize the form. As a result, much like jazz, rock ‘n roll, or disco dancing before it, one can refer to dominant discourse on breaking today and find almost no mention of the African Americans who ushered it in. I address this invisibilization of breaking’s African American founders by analyzing the overlooked accounts and experiences of its earliest practitioners from the 1970s. Utilizing a wide array of non-traditional primary sources, untapped archival material, first-hand interviews, and movement analysis, I offer a revisionist account of the social dynamics and systemic factors that led to the creation of breaking as a distinctly working-class African American expression and its subsequent marginalization and misrepresentation in academia. Given the significant discrepancy between the testimony of pioneering breakers and what has been reproduced in academic writings, I also utilize such testimonies to disrupt prevailing assumptions within the field of hip-hop studies. As part of this process, I emphasize the largely overlooked role breaking played in shaping hip-hop’s musical development, as well as the impact youth socialization and alternative identity formation had on the culture’s emergence. (...) the “cross-fertilization” of ethnic communities living in New York (Flores, 1993, p. 27; Gilroy, 1993, p. 103; Rivera, 2003, p. 43). Indeed, most scholars have even suggested that breaking was originally founded and dominated by Latino/as4(Flores, 1993, p. 28; Rose, 1994, p. 21, fn. 4; Schloss, 2009, p. 153). This chronological confusion has, in the words of early b-boy and hip hop DJ GrandMixer DXT, “put the dots out of focus” (TheBeeShin, 2013), skewing not only the understanding of how breaking emerged but also how it expanded and overcame considerable social obstacles. For instance, the “cross-fertilization” which eventually did take place in the late 1970s and early 1980s was preceded by nearly a decade of seeds being planted and tilled in the breaking movement. It did not simply grow out spontaneously from the “polycultural social construct of New York City” (Hoch, 2006, p. 351). Thus, acknowledging the African Americans who set the groundwork for breaking and its associated forms of expression is critical for gaining a deeper understanding of the aesthetics and sociocultural processes undergirding hip-hop’s development. More importantly, overcoming this neglect is essential if scholars hope to reverse the disturbing, yet seemingly unrelenting, cycle of “invisibilizing”5 African American contributions to modern dance practices (DeFrantz, 2012; Dixon Gottschild, 1996). Source: the untold story of breaking' birth (GRADUATE PROGRAM IN DANCE STUDIES YORK UNIVERSITY TORONTO, ONTARIO)
@@mh7067 You haven't understood what I mean: Capri says that Kool Herc owes his success to James Brown's funk and to the fact that he put the spotlight on funk records from '67, '68, '69. It's more complicated than that. Herc owes his success mainly to three/four things: 1) the harcore funk breaks he would find in certain music (not all funk music, since not all of it had hardcore breaks). This is where I disagree with Capri, because he seems to be saying “you play funk ? so you're hip-hop”, whereas a lot of DJs were playing James Brown everywhere in the black community, the PR community, white fans of black music etc 2) The way he played them: very few words, just rhythm. Then he'd go from one break to another in a duet: when you heard Apache you knew “Give it up or turn it a loose” was coming. Then => Apache => Give it up or turn it a loose and so on. 3) Those dancers who danced Goin'Off and then breakdance. Those known for going to the floor are Clark Kent, the Ni99a Twins, Eldorado Mike, James Bond, Bobo, Timmy Tim etc.) 4) The Mcing of Coke la Rock, who made you a legend just by mentioning your name. That's what made the first generation so successful All those that follow will "copy" this format: The Mc's of hip-hop copied Coke's style, then gave birth to their own. The first breakers? Ditto. Afrika Zambu, Pow Wow, Cholly, are all Zulu Kings and all recognize that the first breakers they saw were the Twins, Clark Kent and the others Herculoids. All the DJs inspired by Herc would also play breaks (Mean Gene, Flash, Breakout, Bam, Disco Bee, Ez Mike) Sorry about Kid Capri: all these guys are black (95% Afro-American and a few black Caribbean). No Puerto Ricans. No Rock Steady Crew, no Starchild la Rock, no Rockwell Association. they arrived several years after the black pioneers
That was the longest "no" I've heard in a long ass time. Then tried to clean it up a but. If you have to be super political and can't answer straight, just say "no comment".
I grew up in NYC in the early 70s. Black and Puerto Ricans did not EVER get along and were NOT "together". They saw US doing it and they gravitated to it AFTER WE WERE ALREADY DOING IT. That's just a FACT!
BLACK PEOPLE CREATED HIP HOP. THE END. Also as a black GEN-X male who lived in various boroughs of NYC like the Bronx including Decatur Ave (bottom of East Fordham Road), Puerto Ricans did NOT go through the same struggles as black people did. I was there and had to fight Puerto Rican bullies on the regular. I also had close Puerto Rican friends. The struggle was a LOT LESS harsh for Puerto Ricans who were often racist and would pick on some blacks. They stuck together and were not fragmented like black people and they knew it.. so they would often try to jump or squad up to attempt to bully blacks. I was not having any of that. I could not tolerate bullies of any race. Generation-X New Yorkers know what I am talking about.
A STRUGGLE IS A STRUGGLE!! We have to STOP the madness of how worst of the next person was during the times in NYC...because they were living in the same hoods that were poor PERIODT. Now places like Throggs Neck and Bensonhurst predominantly Irish and Italians who were living why better than the "Blacks" and Hispanics and who didn't want NEITHER one of them in they're neighborhoods were again treated the same regardless of skin color.
Why the fuck do other people wanna claim Hip Hop so bad? BLACK AMERICANS created it!!!! They did it, all on their own, it is their creation, their art, their entire culture. Listen to the art form and you will hear misogyny, colorism, internalized racism, self destruction, and pure fucking garbage. It is clearly BLACK AMERICAN culture!! Only they would create such fucking mess of a destructive culture filled with misogyny, colorism, internalized racism and chaos. I am so sick of other people trying to claim what is obviously BLACK CULTURE. This is theirs. Leave them alone with their culture. Stop trying to steal it.
Who keeps saying that they had nothing to do with creating Because they NEVER said that but rather came up together in it and gave some contributions, PERIODT.
@@foxxymoonpremires19y'all weren't even a part of Hip Hop when it first started. Y'all even called hip hop jungle music/ negro music. And since y'all contribute so much what have y'all contributed in the last 20 years?
They’re not Spanish. They’re Hispanic, there is a huge difference between the two. One is from Spain, and the others are from outside of Spain generally mixed with black, white and indigenous or one of the two or three depending on the country and region of that country.
Music is not for everyone… music is spiritual…expressed through cultural values… it’s for those that have shared values and experiences… just because one can dance to the beat, doesn’t mean it’s was intended for everyone. Be respectful! Understand boundaries… don’t think you’re entitled to have seat at the table…. Respectfully.❤❤❤
The question was did Puerto Ricans CREATE. The key word was CREATE. Black Americans did not start the debate. Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans did. Unbelievable how difficult it is for them to to answer a simple question, and these are supposed to be our brothers. SMH
When I used to go the jams back in 77, 78 it was predominantly blk kids by 95%. Now after 1979 where I was from ( Bx) jams in the parks was getting played out and a lot of jams were being done in school auditoriums and small clubs.and that's when the Latinos were getting more into break dancing and whatnot.
😂😂😂Hip-hop music culture is a product of African American, Afro-Caribbean and Latino inner-city communities plagued by poverty, the proliferation of drugs, and gang violence in the 1960s and early 1970s. By providing the youth with a sense of identity and belonging, Hip-Hop's strong influence fosters a sense of unity.Hip-Hop is one of the most vibrant products of the late 20th century youth culture. Now York Puerto Ricans have been key participants, as producers and consumers of the culture and hip-hop art forms since hip-hop's very beginning during the early 1970's in the South Bronx.Many of the so-called founding fathers of hip hop were of Latin American and/or Caribbean origin, including DJ Kool Herc (Jamaican), DJ Disco Wiz (Puerto Rican and Cuban descent), Grandmaster Flash (Bajan), and Afrika Bambaataa (Jamaican and Bajan descentClive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop, Campbell began playing hard funk records of the sort typified by James Brown. Campbell began to isolate the instrumental portion of the record which emphasized the drum beat-the "break"-and switch from one break to another. Using the same two-turntable set-up of disco DJs, he used two copies of the same record to elongate the break. This breakbeat DJing, using funky drum solos, formed the basis of hip hop music. Campbell's announcements and exhortations to dancers helped lead to the syncopated, rhythmically spoken accompaniment now known as rapping.For years, Puerto Ricans have been involved in the middle of the hip hop revolution throughout its history whether it was through breakdancing, djing, and eventually the MC's. One of the first DJ's to have come into prominence is DJ Charlie Chase of the Cold Crush Brothers.African American tend to view it as exclusively their own, and even Puerto Ricans and other Latinos tend to view it as "black" music. However, its birth and development were a joint creative effort of African American and Latino Afro Caribbean youngsters, particularly, Puerto Ricans.😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🎵🎶🎧🎛🎤🇵🇷🇯🇲🇺🇸
Art you interview everyone but the first MC Coke LA Rock, the first female MC Sha Rock, the first break dancer Trixie, the first graffiti artist Cornbread. You don't mention Microphone Check documentary Tariq Nasheed produced that debunks all this 50/50 creation of hip-hop. At least show that you know sources for context of the questions you ask. Everyone has a problem with Black Americans claiming any art form we created because of the monetization of hip-hop.
Is grafitti more like Cholo writing or Cornbread's? Is Cornbread really the first grafitti artist? Tariq Nasheed isn't a good source for anything. He has his agenda to push like others and is not a totally objective source for information.
Afro-Americans invented break dancing, Poppin, locking, rap and hip hop! Period! Sammy Davis and his father can be seen breakin in black and white when he was just a kid. The Mills Brothers can be seen breakin in the 30’s. You can see the Jubilares below. Rap did not start because of some guy putting it together in New Your. My dad and uncles were DJing, mixing, and sampling in the 60’e. They learned from their uncs. The House Party itself was invented in the Afro-American immunity as a way to come up on rent money. “The Call and Response”. Rested by Afro-Americans, “The rod, the roof, the roof is on fire…. We don’t need no water let the Mr burn” came out of the Civil Rights Movement. It was from Malcolm X and his “House N Field N” speech. He talked about the masters house being on fire and the House N saying “Our house on fire Master’ The roof on fire call and response was our rebellion and call to let the “Masters” house burn down. This is why we as “Afro-Americans” have to stay connected to our elders and ask questions!! Here is a video from the 1940’s showing the Mills Brothers breakdancing: th-cam.com/video/Iat62Ab87qs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1N28_v9kjmLuXbRJ For Rap: This is the first rap song. It was by the Afro-American Gospel/Folk//Proto-Rap the Jubalaires. They created rap music. If you listen to their song “The Preacher and the Bear” you will see where “Rappers Delight” was stolen/sampled from. Noah th-cam.com/video/Wx0oU1OnHf8/w-d-xo.html Preacher and the Bear th-cam.com/video/XNzKZ7lJRUc/w-d-xo.html The Jubalaires en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jubalaires
I'm calling CAP on Kid Capri for saying it doesn't matter who CREATED it, we are all supposed to enjoy it. People only say these when Black Americans establish claim for our creations.
I’m all for paying homage and giving roses but we’ve got bigger things to worry about than who invented a music genre. And I’m black
@@raythomas5090 hello! Facts 💯
Stop telling on yourselves.....
It does not matter to him and non-Blacks....because it is not their culture......
Stop telling on yourselves
@monsutaman1 kid Capri is black for the record. Hes from a time in new york city where most back people like %97 were descendants of southern migrants. It really wasn't until the last 25 years where black people became of carribean descent.
That is true.
It’s black American culture …. Anyone can enjoy it…. But credit must be given to originators.
But it isn't black American culture. Its New York street culture. You know how many black people would take offense to you generalizing it as black culture? You know why? Because they're not from the hoods or streets of New York or any ghetto. So its not there culture
@ don’t be ridiculous.. stop nick picking …whether they’re from the lower class or middle class or whatever.. they belong to a collective group of black people. They’re not from the street . The young people who started it are the children of working and middle class families.
No different to the teenagers who started rock and roll or Doo Wop in the 50s and 60s who came from working families in Detroit or any other city.
@@djh2367black Americans started it so therefore it’s black culture.
@@djh2367and those same black people from the slums or ghettos of NYC were descendants of escaped slaves from the South so get your history right if youre going ro nitpick it....make sure you nitpick it right 🤡
@@djh2367You sound stupid NY is America you have no logic or sense.
He answered the question. He said #1. Puerto Ricans did not invent hip hop. and #2. But they were there. Being there and creating/inventing something are two totally different things.
😂😂👉👉👉🇵🇷Hip-hop music culture is a product of African American, Afro-Caribbean and Latino inner-city communities plagued by poverty, the proliferation of drugs, and gang violence in the 1960s and early 1970s. By providing the youth with a sense of identity and belonging, Hip-Hop's strong influence fosters a sense of unity.Hip-Hop is one of the most vibrant products of the late 20th century youth culture. Now York Puerto Ricans have been key participants, as producers and consumers of the culture and hip-hop art forms since hip-hop's very beginning during the early 1970's in the South Bronx.Many of the so-called founding fathers of hip hop were of Latin American and/or Caribbean origin, including DJ Kool Herc (Jamaican), DJ Disco Wiz (Puerto Rican and Cuban descent), Grandmaster Flash (Bajan), and Afrika Bambaataa (Jamaican and Bajan descentClive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop, Campbell began playing hard funk records of the sort typified by James Brown. Campbell began to isolate the instrumental portion of the record which emphasized the drum beat-the "break"-and switch from one break to another. Using the same two-turntable set-up of disco DJs, he used two copies of the same record to elongate the break. This breakbeat DJing, using funky drum solos, formed the basis of hip hop music. Campbell's announcements and exhortations to dancers helped lead to the syncopated, rhythmically spoken accompaniment now known as rapping.For years, Puerto Ricans have been involved in the middle of the hip hop revolution throughout its history whether it was through breakdancing, djing, and eventually the MC's. One of the first DJ's to have come into prominence is DJ Charlie Chase of the Cold Crush Brothers.African American tend to view it as exclusively their own, and even Puerto Ricans and other Latinos tend to view it as "black" music. However, its birth and development were a joint creative effort of African American and Latino Afro Caribbean youngsters, particularly, Puerto Ricans.
Most of us have been saying that
Yeah I saw a house built next door so I helped build it 🤔
Pretty Much Shuts Down The Narrative of Fat Joe Saying 50/50
I’m black from nyc if u wanna be totally honest Latinos did help create HIPHOP because HIPHOP was started by gangs n the Bronx and Latinos was apart of those gangs Facts💯💯
Sounds like they were there *watching* the Black kids invent hip hop and party with hip hop. They watched and learned. Then joined in. That's how it goes. You see it, then learn it.
True!
Yeah I was there some of the black kids were watching the Puerto Rican kids. If it wasn't for the Hispanic community within hip hop graffiti and breakdancer wouldn't have flourished the way it did.
@@ronaldmarshall5398hahahahs! Hispanics didn't create graffiti or break dancing. They learned it from black Americans. By the way, those are all parts of hip hop that faded away.
@@ronaldmarshall5398 pure FACTS!
@@ronaldmarshall5398Black people didn't need Puerto Ricans. We've started every genre that's in here America. We didn't need Puerto Ricans for folk music, we didn't need Puerto Ricans for jazz, we didn't need Puerto Ricans for blues, we didn't need Puerto Ricans when we created rock and roll as well. We don't need Puerto Ricans to start any music genre. We've created all those music genres without a Puerto Rican in sight.
Black people created rock and roll , country, rhythm, and blues, hip hop .
Country, blues, gosple,trap, r&b, etc
Hip-Hop is a black american creation, PERIOD!!
The brotha’s took it to another level even though it was done in the 40’s and back, because of all the hell they were getting in the hood 😮
Just like JAZZ, COUNTRY, R&B, BLUES😊
Rock and Roll, heavy metal too!
Puerto Ricans speak Spanish so how can they create hip-hop the things they say the Black people are so disrespectful they really think y’all stupid
@@malakai5523 so why do JEWS own it?? Why don't you own what you created?? Explain that one
It’s so hard for people to say blk people created Hiphop. It’s crazy lol
He definitely going around the question
@@Maasai-ElThank You!!! He saw what happened to fat Joe and he doesn't want to get canceled so he's trying to stand for his people and say nothing bad about black people. He's been in NYC all his life and knows the truth but don't want to give NYC black Americans there due. He doesn't understand playing both sides of the fence van also get you canceled.🤥🤥👀
Everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't wanna be black
They have no culture 😂 this all they got, and they mad FBA invented everything
Its unbelievable that its even a question now a days..that ish is ceazy man
The truth does matter. FBA created hip-hop and other people came in along the way. Why is it a problem to say that when it comes to FBA people?
"FBA" is exclusionary term that tries to delineate black americans. by saying "FBA" you exclude black people that have been in American since the early 1900s. the only thing that "FBA" created is confusion and devision between blacks in america.
Envious and jealous foreigners cosplaying Americans is real. Freedman descendants aka FBA'S don't have any foreigner or immigrant influences.
@@swollencolon1127Black is a state of mind not a Freedman descendant lineage aka FBA. Cosplaying Freedman descendants is over. Delineation is clearly common sense in 2025.
@@swollencolon1127Actually it doesn't the only thing FBA is about is Black people who can trace their ancestry back to slavery in the United States. It means nothing more and no Puerto Ricans wasn't apart of hip hop just listen how long it takes him to answer the question. He telling his truth but not the Truth!!
@swollencolon1127, how is it confusion?
James brown called rapping, rapping, before it was rapping.
Because rapping was street slang for speaking to another person! Come here let me rap to you for a minute ❤ #aave
Not true blaCk people been saying" hey brother let me rap to you"
Rap is an actual term from way way wayyyy back . 1800s. I can’t believe you didn’t know this. It’s a word that means to speak.
James Brown knew what he was calling rapping because that was Black American lengo for ( let me spit some game to you, let me talk to you )or let me rap to you, that's what it meant, so it was named rap music.
The Brits use the word all the time. It got passed down from the colonizers. It’s just a word guys. Next thing you’re going to say is the first person on the moon was an FBA because you heard about it in a rap lyric. 😂
Black Americans struggled by themselves from 1619 to present !
So did Latinos hater
@@Chopping-it-up
Latinos were the oppressor of Black people in Latin American countries
@@Chopping-it-up Exactly. Like our ancestors weren't raped. Genocided. Tortured. Land stolen from. Kid Capri kicked intellectual and mature bars here. Lord Jamar hatin ass should take notes of how "wise" man should speak. So called 5%'er talking like a "massa" against everyone else. The man isn't even African American. He Guyanese. Music is for everyone and not ONE people's alone struggled in history. This is just to create division. The government knows what it's doing.
Me and Kid Cap is the same age and both from the Bronx, I know for a fact that Black Americans started Hip Hop and a few Puerto Ricans join the Black Americans Rap and D J crews, like DJ Charlie Chase, M.C Ruby D, Whipper Whip and the Devastating Tito From the Fearless Four M.C's. Now who was before them that was Puerto Rican?
@Chopping-it-up you're the hater and there's NOTHING Latinos have done to help black Americans with our struggle in America. The very freedoms Latinos have are a result of the blood, sweat and tears of black Americans.
Now that hip hop is a standard, everyone was involved in its inception but believe me, in the beginning the black community took all the hits and negative backlash about hip hop.
@@JessicaLanear facts!
Which is why we need to fight for it instead of leaving it to others. Remember this whole debate started bc THEY tried to lay claim
@@JessicaLanear nope wrong answer everybody was not involved in it , it was created designed and nurtured by black people from the inception the beginning ya DiG don’t get it twisted you should already know this !!
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
Well said @JessicaLanear
I respect his perspective, but give the American Black Man his credit for creating the biggest impact on music!!! That is HIP HOP 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Blues is bigger. Hip hop is huge, though. I think of it as coming out of the culture of the Bronx and I think that's all some folks are saying. No doubt, the music styles were from Black Americans and then expanded to other types.
he did. He said james Brown was the inventor
WE DO NOT RESPECT HIS PERSPECTIVE
@@thermologo3451exactly. Nobody respects his opinion unless he tells the WHOLE truth…
We created Blues, country, jazz, hip-hop, R&B, Rock & Roll, Funk, Disco. Stop the f#ckery. 😂
@@Cherrydagasman 💯💯👊 and classic music 🎶 to....
Culture vultures at its finest
Could not have said it better!
This is true. But monetarily and influentially, we absolutely have not reaped the benefits nor on any financial aspects of each genre that you have mentioned. Fighting for symbolism and low hanging fruit that’s the sad part.
Caucasian and EuropeanJews have made more money from all the genres that you have mentioned then we can even fathom, but we are worried about division amongst melanated peoples
They are Latin people not Spanish! And it matters who created it!!! IF YOU DONT POINT IT OUT OTHERS WILL TAKE THE CREDIT!
In NY we say Spanish. And ppl know their proper roots. Mind your location
Beleeeeeeee Dat!
@@everythingdivineRETARD YOU SPEAK ENGLISH BUT YOU’ER NOT ENGLISH!! SPAIN IS A COUNTRY IN EUROPE NOT SOUTH AMERICA!! YOU’ER PARENTS ARE CLEARLY FAILURES!!!
@@everythingdivineITS YOU NEW YORK PU$$IES THAT GOT THESE $PICS THINKING THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEY ARE!!
They aren't even latino......they're so called latino.
Why is it so difficult for Hispanics to admit they didn't create any element of Hip-Hop
They may have had their say so AFTER it was created but foundational hip hop is a BLACK art form
Because they don’t have anything else fall back on
@@alexperry2014 lol 😂
Stop crying lol
@@alexperry2014 the current administration (Including Kamala) is working on changing that. California has a bill on the governor's desk about giving public assistance, loans, healthcare, and a head start on the American dream meaning an interest free loan. Just to name a couple of the benefits they'll get.
Who’s these other races I don’t emulate Chinese people or whites when I’m following rap music in emulating a black person from the ghetto stop tryint to steal our shit ain’t nobody add to hip hop but black people im Jamaican I will never let no Jamaican say they added to hip hop cause biggie is Jamaican African Americans made hip hop biggie was raised in America an born here an followed African American culture I’m Jamaican I speak African American slang which African Americans made I don’t speak like no Puerto Rico
The Puerto Ricans were very racist towards black ppl back then. So they helped with the struggle against blacks
Some still are smh
Exactly! Our ancestors built American music in general!! From Gospel, Ragtime, Jazz, Rock, Soul, Funk, RnB and Hip Hop! Spanish people were nothing but mere participants💯
@@Mac28531 💯💯
Bingo
No true
I bet you Kid Capri would take offense to any bl;k person , American, that said we African Americans contributed to Salsa! Kid Capri was put on by blk people!
Kid Capri is Black and Italian
Black and Italian not Latino
Actually Salsa was originated in Africa ..
he is also half blk and italian
The brothas created Hip Hop. Puerto Ricans contributed but without blacks there wouldn’t have been Hip Hop. And that’s a fact. Djs, MCs etc…
Best answer.
The brothas created the music that was mixed by Jamericans like Herc then came others, and Ricans contributed... But the culture? I don't know mane, the culture was something that couldn't be created. It was lived. The culture is too BX and you can spot a Hip Hop BX native wherever we go around the globe. Even in BK they can spot a BX ninja. Back in our own islands they can spot a BX native. Whether Nuyoricans, Jamericans, or Bl Americans, our parents and the older kids didn't like our new swag. We were eager not to copy them and therefore it was not copied from one ethnicity. We didn't go for that. We were a new breed. It's a BX thang, it was passed the struggle. It was more like dominance, pride, and unity... All three swags together in one individual and it was not for all BX residents... Not everyone is about that life. Something no one can explain.
That's the issue here... Just sayin'.
They came late to the party.
@@eachoneteachone8320Herc learned from earlier Djs this narrative that everything was brought from Jamaicans is false..A lot of pioneers said Herc wasn’t that skilled on the tables
I think it all began when humans first started living. Gotta give a shout out to all my neadrathals out there! Ya dig? I’m totally joking…but if we all wanna get really technical 😂
Spanish is a language, Black is a color.
Black is a ethnicity, it means you come from dark skin slaves that have no roots or culture outside of this country
If your African or an islander in all reality you aren’t black, so it’s just a color to you because you aren’t one of us,
EXACTLY 💯
Black is a color. Black is also a race.
It's also a Nationality
Black people created hip hop. *drops mic
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
@@willybeeman8468 I See A Mike Drop 👀 😳 😏
But those black folks weren't just FBA
There is plenty of black people that are also Latino…
the dickies, striped polos, pro club, the locs, chucks and low rider culture came from the Latinos… mic dropped.
Basically he pled the 5th 💯 🤓
He gotta play them Spanish gigs too 😂 so I’m not mad at his answer
Spanish is not a race Puerto Rico isn’t a race these guys do this game playing there white peoples in Puerto Rico a white skinned person from anywhere is classfied as white when they come to America on legal documents if you pass for white your white in society if you pass for white your white if you pass for blk you get treated as a black person these guys love playing mind games talking about I’m not white in Spanish or Puerto Rico those are not races
2:45 basically he said they had a hand in it. Wtf did you watch?
@@khairt1731 If your building a house and the mothafuckaz that live next door didn’t hand you a hammer or a nail they just watched you work. Did they help you build the house? Just because they were there? NO! Dumass!
What do u get out of it 🤔 😂I no nothing u still get nothing
If they helped create it, WHERE ARE ALL THE 1970’s hip hop records by Latinos? What are any Latino hip hop records before 1990?
Straight ppl want to point out cypress hill and Cuban linx they bridged a gap a lil bit and got Latinos into hip-hop but did not create hip-hop. And I don't know many "black" ppl that listen to them or even reggaton unless they are Spanish speaking
Spanish breakbeats are hip hop records 4:34 . The Mexican , etc . all those break beat bands had Spanish members . Hip Hop never kicked anybody out the culture . That’s new sh!t
@@JDiggiti hip hop was created from existing music using a turn table. That doesn’t mean Hispanics created hip hop. They didn’t. James Brown was also sampled and so were many others.
SO LONG STORY SHORT THE ANSWER IS “NO” 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Exactly!! 😂
Thank you....talked for two days to get to what we already know....
@BroadwaySamFlowers😅😅😅 look at the video archives again...because they were and maybe NOT MANY but DEFINITELY they/WE were😊.
Exactly 💯 😂 Why do people think that they got to be so political about it. 😂😂😂
Right
R&B is heavily sampled in hip-hop too. So we could not have hip-hop without R&B.
Exactly.... where is the salsa influence?
@@KtotheG Why are you bringing up salsa when no one is talking about salsa music?
@@blackcherry6877 Because PRs claim to have co-created hip hop.... keep up, boo
@KtotheG I don't care about PRs because I already know they didn't create hip-hop. You keep up. They were not even worth mentioning.
Yall settle down lol the point is there was no salsa influence and if so they came later but it was mainly funk,soul,R&B etc
Kid…. You on that bullsh*t! You know Black youth FBA got it all pop’n!!
Kid Cap😂
Absolute bulshit, new FBA is a bunch of dummies. You actually follow Tariq nasheed. FPS no lineage. You are an African-American idiot
He basically said what's already been said. Latinos were there. What he didn't say was that the Latino culture didn't influence hip hop. If it went back to the 40s, and it started with James, then there's your answer.
First rap I remember was over disco beats. But, I'm not sure. James is funk. I don't agree that he's hip hop. James was his own globe but he sang and danced incredibly. He didn't spit bars. I don't think anyone rapped until the 1970s. The stuff before was speaking rhythmically over a beat and that was done by not only Black people. It wasn't funk beats but it was rhythmic. By definition, poetry is syllables in a rhythmic rhyming scheme.
@benjaminsmith2287 Interesting.. The first rap song I ever heard was over funk music. Look up the artist, King Tim the III, the song was called Fat Back. There was definitely a funk base bumping out of my mother's Zenith system back in 1978. The Sugar Hill Gang came after that. James definitely brought the funk and the attitude. His music is the most sampled in hip hop... Not Tito Puente, Not Willie Rosario, not Oscar DeLeon ( respectively). FBA . From James Brown, to Chic, to Earth Wind and Fire, Diana Ross, Donna Summer, and every other band I didn't mention. Be it Fat Joe or Busta Rhymes, they adapted to black American culture, PERIOD.
Everybody wants to be black when it's convenient. We appreciate everyone who participates. We appreciate the infiltrators as well.
The problem is that black people don’t want to be white when it’s convenient. If you did that all of our brothers and sisters would be rich!!! I chose one day that I wanna be white and look at me now. Stop tryna be the victim and get your money up, homeboy!!! I can’t ever be white but I can live white!!!
They appreciate our artform.......but hate US
@@Z18773 do your homework before talking
@@23jumpman2 open your mind before you speak to me. I'm well informed I am the culture I am the people. Who are you? Yeaa ok. 👑🖤🕺🏾💃🏾💪🏾✊🏾👊🏾
@@Z18773 shut the hell up I'm from the 80$ and from NYC I no what I'm talking about I bet ur not from ny
Black people created hip hop and other races helped expand it and played a pivotal role into making it the biggest genre.
Well said.
We haven't invented anything their nothing new under the sun
@@sand216 still would have been big with out,Latinos we kept evolving. Everying Latinos doing now is still based on how blacks do it. Ya look up to us. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow
So after 50 years. How come now people say it only me. So peace love and unity. How are we now arguing. Over 50 years of unity. Funny. Kind of like whites only. Music for everyone
Very well said. Best comment on this subject I've seen in ANY comment section on this subject. Salute 🫡
NO ONE SAID THE WERENT THERE.. THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE A HAND IN THE CREATION.. WHY IS IT SUCH AN ISSUE THAT WE WERE THE ORIGINATORS !?
Didn't know kid capri was a tap dancer. Why is this even a debate. We are the creators of music period...........💪🏿💯
Black Americans at one point was gonna put hip hop down just like everything else we invented, get tired of it and throw it away. Caribbean ppl was so enamored by our creativity they said “damn y’all just gonna leave it alone?” So they took what we were doing and brought it mainstream. We black Americans created it just like every musical genre in the United States.
Because it comes from black culture! We want credit for our shit why is that shit so hard for mf's to understand damm!💯
*This was a struggle for him.*
😂
he gave a decent answer.
Bullshyt @@ornamentalyouth
Of course it was lol
3:25 is the typical answer given when others wants to take from the culture.
That fkn part! But let it come to a barria taco they’d have dates, location and weather of the first Latina who created the muthafka 😂
Man Puerto Ricans and Hispanic ppl in general need to stop referring to themselves as Spanish
Hispanic people never called himself Spanish.
I only here ignorant black folks,
who aren't aware of ethnicity and race, call them Spanish.
Spain is a country in Europe, has nothing to do with Hispanics.
Hispanics speak the language of the colonizers, which were from Spain.
Just like we were forced to speak the language of our colonizers, which is English.
That don't make me English, I'm "Black".
They don't, only Americans call them that.
@iuri9161 Yes, they do, I hear it all the time.
in nyc that's what you say. i grew up saying that. probably dying out though
Well then teach them how and why instead of just “hoping” and telling them they should stop when most of them have no idea why they’re referring to and speaking Spanish in the first place. Us black folk is speaking a language that’s not even our own, so what are exactly are you saying?? You’re just talking to be talking. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
As a boricua hop hop was created by African american but we put our touch in break dancing
Dammit man....That wasn't hard!!!Why is Kid Capri tap dancing?
@tyrn25 the reason his tap dancing because many boricua are his fan base but you can't hide the truth that's like saying salsa music was invented by African american which was invented by latinos they have their lane and we have ours at the end we are united by the struggle
@WilfredoSanchez-e9o The truth is the truth.I was born and raised in Newark NJ in the 70s,and I saw it all.
@tyrn25 I also grew up in the bronx at that moment first rap song I heard was from the sugar hill gang Curtis blow furious five and so on popping was a african american way of dancing the break dancing it was us puerto rican so together show a path for young black and brown people a way out for that we are both bless
@WilfredoSanchez-e9o Yes sir.But Fat Joe Saying hip hop was created 50 50 was some bullshit.You have to admit most Latino parents didn't allow blacks in there homes at that time.And they called hip hop jungle music.
because when time goes on others take credit for black creations so we must clarify the creation from jump
He dancing around the question. Tap dancing he doesn’t want to just say it black folks invented it😂😂 straight up💯👍🏾
They always do............they don't want to hurt their feelings!
Facts
He literally said black folks created it. You just wasn't listening. What color is James Brown and THE guys that was rapping in the 40's?????
BLACK!
It’s sad to see…
@@Celestial-City No he didn't....he tap danced around it then painted a picture that if you put 2 & 2 together you should/might figure it out. Come on son!
Black Americans Created Hip Hop. 50 60 years ago it was a handful of black people who were tolerated, excepted into a Spanish home. What these Hispanics don't speak about is how they grandparents and mothers and fathers were Very much Racist. So Please Miss me with we all got along shit. Yes some did but for the most they didn't care for black Americans. I witnessed it with my own eyes.
Dr Umar is gonna get a heart attack watching this
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Who the F is he y’all got stop this b 🤦🏾♂️ he’s no authority fam
Man, nobody gives a f what he thinks
Lol
Black Americans and Puerto Ricans do NOT share the same struggle historically. Similar but not the same. Stop it. Hip Hop is Black American music
This kinda reminds me of these internet surveys when they ask who’s the greatest rapper of all time and it always come back As Eminem as the answer, that’s when you know they not asking black folks their opinion cuz I’ve never bought an Eminem album and I’ve never listened to his shit in my car
He capping too 😂😂😂he basically said we did without saying it.😂😂😂
He's very tricky and I'm talking about the host of this show. Are you saying created or contribute because of course Puerto Ricans contribute but they didn't create. Stop pretending Puerto Ricans and black youth were hanging together in the beginning. When they started hanging together they were emulating black culture and not the other way around because if it was the other way around then we would be speaking Spanish. Puerto Ricans don't like to tell you how they are divided and how they try to run away from their blackness like Dominicans. Oh hip hop is popular so now it's different. You see this guy knows it's important on knowing who is the foundation of any entity because they are the ones that will get the money and the credit. He knows if hip hop came from the island then he would definitely stick his chest out but he can't because he also knows black people without Puerto Ricans created hip hop. Everyone contributed after the ball was rolling
BINGO!!
U puerto rican ???? If not are you from nyc especially the bronx? From that Era? If no to all u can't speak. I already it's no to all because of the way you're writing
I bet you from the south and no nothing about puerto rican. The only Hispanics you encountered are probably Mexicans and Mexicans pks with blacks too
People always want it not to be a big deal when it comes to black Americans and out Culture.. and that's the problem and why we now identify as FBA and gatekeeping our culture
Everybody wanna be black until it’s time to deal with what come with it 💯💯
What does that even mean ?
U writing like you are alone in the struggle
Read up on some books during the Civil War and how hispanic helped blacks get out of the south
Recommend some of juan Carlos de la Cruz writings
Folks like to repeat things like parrots. No, not "everybody wanna be black." Spend some time with other cultures and you wouldn't say that.
@@y_o_oj754 Seriously. Go out and talk to people. People want to be in some club and don't even know what they share with folks right next to them.
just because you was their that doesn’t meant that you created it
He doesn’t want to piss anyone off so instead of telling the truth he’s salsa dancing around the question.
Salsa?? U no longer African get with the program in the US and stop hating.
Your comment doesn’t make sense for what I said. Around here we deal in facts. Bless your heart. 🤣
He indirectly said Black Americans created hip hop but didn't want to fully say it. Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge it and keep it moving?
A lot of people can be around when rap started but we all know that no other language would ever compare to a Black using the English language to create rhyme schemes to a beat.
I respect Kid Kapri, for intelligently making the Important-Difference between Hip-Hop Culture & Rap-Music.
Blacks created Hip hop.And the culture is black.
Crazy shit is Puerto Ricans aren't Spanish
They mostly are with a splash of taino and African
@@ceeIoccan’t even say a splash. There’s a lot of Hispanics from Puerto Rico who have little to no white or Indian in them where they’re majority Africa. It really varies from person to person.
they're spanish, taino and african
@@matrix2030x lol Spanish is not a race, it’s a language. Hispanics or Latinos are considered what they are due to them being a mixture of Native Americans, Africans and European. Remember Spain is located in Europe which is where the Spanish language derived from.
@@Thezayway_ Vast majority of Puerto Ricans can trace their ancestry to Spain.
1970-1971 Kids from Bronxdale Houses (Members of Black Spades) brought breakbeats to DJ Disco King Mario to play at the park jams! That was the beginning in the Bronx.
Salute to the homie Kairi from Brooklyn, a African/Puerto Rican who let us stay with him when we went to the NYC over a decade ago to pursue our rap dreams.
Kool Herc playing records at parties does not make him a pioneer of hip-hop. The people who actually made the music are the pioneer. Herc was a fan of hip-hop, he created nothing.
Hip Hop didn't exist in 1973, dummy 😂 Herc was playing Funk and Rock songs back then and his MC Coke La Rock would talk over the top of them.
DJ King Charles was Jamaican and he is considered a founding father of hip hop. So Caribbeans were involved in the making of hip hop.
Kool herc played black American music because black Americans didn't want to listen to jamaican and let's keep it real black Americans have the best music we have chuck berry etc james brown
@@lanetterussell3657 king Charles played Caribbean music back in the late 1960s
@@lanetterussell3657 Jamaicans have the best music. Sit down
1973 Herc Threw A Party For His Family In A Small Room Attended by Less Than 40 People.
Hip-Hop jams were happening before that moment... word to Disco King Mario who was the first DJ to book a party at High School 123. Also before Herc was DJ Smokey & The Smokatrons, Kool DJ Dee plus a few more Bronx area DJs.
@@IceManLikeGervin Faks!!!
This man is speaking with sense . Thank you for this interview.
A lot of Hispanic culture comes from African culture
@@larryconnerjr1835 Also Native American & Spain as well.
Not false bro, Latinos is a mixed race of the European, Meso Americans and Africans (West Africans). Genres like Salsa derive from all the influences above!
Africa is a broad continent with so many different types of music from stuff that sounds like Arabic music to stuff that now sounds like American hip hop. There is West African culture retained in Latin America. Some areas even speak Yoruba and practice animist religions. There is a lot of percussion in some Latino music for a long time and they use the African clave. But there's a lot of Spanish culture in the Caribbean as well. It's a blending of cultures.
One time I was in the kitchen while my mom prepared a big feast. I learned by watching her cook but I will not take credit for helping prepare the feast. I was then able to prepare a feast as well from being present and watching her.
KID CAPRI DEFINITELY NEEDS HIS RECOGNITION AND FLOWERS WHILE HE'S HERE GRINDING IF PEOPLE ISN'T GOING TO GIVE HIM HIS FLOWERS THEN I WILL AND IM GOING TO KEEP DOING THAT UNTIL THEY SEE IT HE'S STILL CONSIDERED ONE THE PIONEERS OF HIP HOP OF ALL TIME STILL TO THIS DAY. I WANT TO HOPEFULLY MEET KID CAPRI ONE DAY IF THAT'S POSSIBLE
He's still working and making money off of hip Hop so I'm pretty sure he has a lot of flowers. Well deserve but the point is the creators who are still alive are not receiving any revenue and your idol knows it and that's the disgusting part. Yeah feel free to continue your worshipping and hopefully you're not sacrificing any sheep or anything like that
Why is he tap dancing with the answer. This is no way no Hispanic’s created hip hop. They are the first students of hip hop. Nothing wrong with that. FBA are the creators of hip-hop.
And jamaican new yorkers
@@lilyrarayeah Jamaican new Yorkers had nothing to do with hip-hop neither.
@@jayjones251 facts
As a New Yorker, i can see what he is saying. If you look at the census of the early 70s in the Bronx, where hiphop was curated there was already a heavy population of Ricans and even some Jamaicans and i dont mean 1st generations. The ghetto (specially the BX in those days) was a waisteland of the outcasts of America. The Last Poets had a Puerto Rican as a member in the 70s. As seen in other pop stuff based in NY like The Westside Story. Also look up 70s NYC street gangs & there were street gangs such as Savage Nomads, Black Spades that had Ricans that were made up largely of or had Ricans in the gangs. I can see most people in the larger América dont understand the dynamics of NYC because they are more "black & white" but we different & this IS where hiphop was formulated & nurtured NYC is a country state & city
Exactly.
Well said……
Well said. I tried to explain this to someone. NYC is different. We mixed more. Puerto Ricans even had their version of the Black Panthers.
And you all still didn't contribute anything culturally Puerto Rican to hip hop. The cultural elements came from Black Americans aka FBA.
Reason being, The offspring of the creatures of Soul music in America are tired of everyone taking our ancestors creations and narrating the origin story of it, for themselves that's why!
Ding Ding!!!!
Whenever other people wanna relate to us it’s always a “struggle” involved
Exactly. They only relate with us at their low points. They associate us with perpetual lows.
Huh?
This is the weirdest comment. As if their “struggle” doesn’t count.
@@cjlaw228 it’s always a struggle involved what history are you looking at or have you been totally desensitized and you just forgot !
@@ceeIoc I think it’s more…what does their struggle have to do with ours? And even more what does it have to do with black Americans being the creators of hip hop?
Dj Capri is So Black even he say the incorrect term "Spanish People " 😂😅lol 💯
Black Americans created Hip Hop and every other major genre of music💯 Black Americans were already rapping. Stop playing with Black Americans💪🏽🖤1
There's a video of Fat Joe as a teen watching black americans express themselves in a hip hop fashion in the late 80's. The blacks were dancing and Fat Joe was on the wall observing. That's the same thing that happened in the early 70's The Puerto Ricans(very few of them at the time) were the first to observe the Black Americans express what came to be known as hip hip culture. The proof is in the recipe. All the ingredients that made Hip Hop culture are fundamentally FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN with no Caribbean or African or Asian or influence!
He ain’t said nothing blks started hip hop
He said American black people created Hip Hop without actually saying it directly.
Charlie chase who is Puerto Rican and founder of cold crush brothers was the first group to get sign to record label 1975
So I just did a quick search on the Jubalaries it came up that they’re originally from Houston Texas…😂 nice 🤘
There are no latin elements to early hip-hop.
I appreciate Kid Capri for keeping it true and real
Black people invented every genre of music
Who created Hip-hop? New York City. 💯
Black people in new York city
Blacks in NYC..
Blacks, Puerto Ricans, and a Greek kid who invented New York graffiti.
@@yaboym3247YOU SOUND ABSOLUTELY STUPID!!
@@yaboym3247 word to taki 183
Other ethnicities and races clowned black people in the beginning about rap. Rap is crap etc... Now, everyone wants credit for it. Oh, the irony!
It's so good to see kid capri still around, looking healthy, in his right mind and doing well 🙏. We love you king, be well,and continue to do what you're doing 🫡.
James Brown should be considered one of the biggest musical influencer. He was called the god father a soul, influenced the creation of funk which had a major impact on hip-hop.
He is was and always will be.
You pass that name on to future generations👈🏿🫡
It shouldn't matter but it matters. In this world where blacks are thought of as the lowest, have the lowest wealth in this country and our history is always surviving struggle in which other groups have piggy backed off whether that's the collective gays or the Jews, we need to take ownership of what we created. Although I'm not proud of how debased it's become, it's still a genre of music that blacks need to have total credit for. I'm tired of this rewriting of history.
how have gay and jewish people piggybacked off of black people?
Are we the lowest? I see better representation of Black people in the media than I see Asians and Indians and especially Native Americans. We have prominent politicians and lawyers. We have two Black supreme court justices (you may not like one of them but he is Black). Are Native Americans overall doing better than Black Americans?
Take ownership of what we're doing wrong as a community is what we should do. Take ownership of giving up our community to criminals is what we should do. And there is a breakdown of the Black American family. That's the stuff we need to prioritize.
@@ornamentalyouththe fact that you don't know the answer to your question is part of the problem.
Enough Black People welcome everyone, so there would be no issues. Prob is - some people from other Dark Skinned races don't want to be associated with Black Americans and point out the distinctions. So here we are.
If those other Dark Skins didn't trip, it would be all love.
No, Puerto Ricans weren't present when Kool Herc played his first breaks parties, contrary to what Kid Capri says: it's been confirmed by Trixie and lots of original b-boys who say they didn't see any Puerto Ricans at Kool Herc's first parties. You've got to stop spreading lies because you don't know the history of hip-hop.
Or else give us the names of the Puerto Ricans who claimed to be present in 1973, 1974 or even 1975 at Kool Herc's parties?
Puerto Ricans weren't around when breakdance was created because breakdance was born in the circles of the first generation of Herculoids and the original b-boys were all black.
Some of these original b-boys, such as Eldorado Mike, trained Puerto Ricans in breakdance, as did Bom5, who admitted that his breakdance mentors were Sisqo, Eldorado Mike, Phase 2 and Zulu King Beaver (all black).
And when Kid Capri says that Kool Herc played funk, it's hard to believe that he really understands what hip-hop is made of. Hip-hop was based on BREAKS of funk, soul and R&B. It's not the funk music that defines hip-hop, damn it, but the breaks in that music!
B-boys danced to breaks called “obscure sounds”.
Playing funk didn't make you a hip-hop DJ. There was a difference between “breaks DJs” and “disco DJs”.
Appreciate these comments. I've been taken to school 📝@@KahmPiankhy
@KahmPiankhy wouldnt be no breaks to go off on if those black artists didnt create those funk and r&b songs and emulate James Brown and them. Hip Hop is not just dancing its an attitude and a swagger
@Bone_youtube_soft
When breaking first emerged in The Bronx, New York, of the 1970s, it was a dance practiced almost exclusively by African American teenagers. Yet, most scholarly accounts of the dance have focused on Latino/a youth and media narratives from the 1980s onwards to contextualize
the form. As a result, much like jazz, rock ‘n roll, or disco dancing before it, one can refer to dominant discourse on breaking today and find almost no mention of the African Americans who ushered it in.
I address this invisibilization of breaking’s African American founders by analyzing the overlooked accounts and experiences of its earliest practitioners from the 1970s. Utilizing a wide array of non-traditional primary sources, untapped archival material, first-hand interviews, and movement analysis, I offer a revisionist account of the social dynamics and systemic factors that led to the creation of breaking as a distinctly working-class African American expression and its subsequent marginalization and misrepresentation in academia.
Given the significant discrepancy between the testimony of pioneering breakers and what has been reproduced in academic writings, I also utilize such testimonies to disrupt prevailing assumptions within the field of hip-hop studies. As part of this process, I emphasize the largely overlooked role breaking played in shaping hip-hop’s musical development, as well as the impact youth socialization and alternative identity formation had on the culture’s emergence.
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the “cross-fertilization” of ethnic communities living in New York (Flores, 1993, p. 27; Gilroy, 1993, p. 103; Rivera, 2003, p. 43). Indeed, most scholars have even suggested that breaking was originally founded and dominated by Latino/as4(Flores, 1993, p. 28; Rose, 1994, p. 21, fn. 4; Schloss, 2009, p. 153). This chronological confusion has, in the words of early b-boy and hip hop DJ GrandMixer DXT, “put the dots out of focus” (TheBeeShin, 2013), skewing not only the understanding of how breaking emerged but also how it expanded and overcame considerable social obstacles. For instance, the “cross-fertilization” which eventually did take place in the late 1970s and early 1980s was preceded by nearly a decade of seeds being planted and tilled in the breaking movement. It did not simply grow out spontaneously from the “polycultural social construct of New York City” (Hoch, 2006, p. 351). Thus, acknowledging the African Americans who set the groundwork for breaking and its associated forms of expression is critical for gaining a deeper understanding of the aesthetics and sociocultural processes undergirding hip-hop’s development. More importantly, overcoming this neglect is essential if scholars hope to reverse the disturbing, yet seemingly unrelenting, cycle of “invisibilizing”5 African American contributions to modern dance practices (DeFrantz, 2012; Dixon Gottschild, 1996).
Source: the untold story of breaking' birth (GRADUATE PROGRAM IN DANCE STUDIES YORK UNIVERSITY TORONTO, ONTARIO)
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You haven't understood what I mean: Capri says that Kool Herc owes his success to James Brown's funk and to the fact that he put the spotlight on funk records from '67, '68, '69. It's more complicated than that.
Herc owes his success mainly to three/four things:
1) the harcore funk breaks he would find in certain music (not all funk music, since not all of it had hardcore breaks). This is where I disagree with Capri, because he seems to be saying “you play funk ? so you're hip-hop”, whereas a lot of DJs were playing James Brown everywhere in the black community, the PR community, white fans of black music etc
2) The way he played them: very few words, just rhythm. Then he'd go from one break to another in a duet: when you heard Apache you knew “Give it up or turn it a loose” was coming. Then => Apache => Give it up or turn it a loose and so on.
3) Those dancers who danced Goin'Off and then breakdance. Those known for going to the floor are Clark Kent, the Ni99a Twins, Eldorado Mike, James Bond, Bobo, Timmy Tim etc.)
4) The Mcing of Coke la Rock, who made you a legend just by mentioning your name.
That's what made the first generation so successful
All those that follow will "copy" this format:
The Mc's of hip-hop copied Coke's style, then gave birth to their own.
The first breakers? Ditto. Afrika Zambu, Pow Wow, Cholly, are all Zulu Kings and all recognize that the first breakers they saw were the Twins, Clark Kent and the others Herculoids.
All the DJs inspired by Herc would also play breaks (Mean Gene, Flash, Breakout, Bam, Disco Bee, Ez Mike)
Sorry about Kid Capri: all these guys are black (95% Afro-American and a few black Caribbean).
No Puerto Ricans. No Rock Steady Crew, no Starchild la Rock, no Rockwell Association.
they arrived several years after the black pioneers
That was the longest "no" I've heard in a long ass time. Then tried to clean it up a but. If you have to be super political and can't answer straight, just say "no comment".
I grew up in NYC in the early 70s. Black and Puerto Ricans did not EVER get along and were NOT "together". They saw US doing it and they gravitated to it AFTER WE WERE ALREADY DOING IT. That's just a FACT!
BLACK PEOPLE CREATED HIP HOP. THE END. Also as a black GEN-X male who lived in various boroughs of NYC like the Bronx including Decatur Ave (bottom of East Fordham Road), Puerto Ricans did NOT go through the same struggles as black people did. I was there and had to fight Puerto Rican bullies on the regular. I also had close Puerto Rican friends. The struggle was a LOT LESS harsh for Puerto Ricans who were often racist and would pick on some blacks. They stuck together and were not fragmented like black people and they knew it.. so they would often try to jump or squad up to attempt to bully blacks. I was not having any of that. I could not tolerate bullies of any race. Generation-X New Yorkers know what I am talking about.
what about fat joe
A STRUGGLE IS A STRUGGLE!! We have to STOP the madness of how worst of the next person was during the times in NYC...because they were living in the same hoods that were poor PERIODT. Now places like Throggs Neck and Bensonhurst predominantly Irish and Italians who were living why better than the "Blacks" and Hispanics and who didn't want NEITHER one of them in they're neighborhoods were again treated the same regardless of skin color.
Why the fuck do other people wanna claim Hip Hop so bad? BLACK AMERICANS created it!!!! They did it, all on their own, it is their creation, their art, their entire culture. Listen to the art form and you will hear misogyny, colorism, internalized racism, self destruction, and pure fucking garbage.
It is clearly BLACK AMERICAN culture!! Only they would create such fucking mess of a destructive culture filled with misogyny, colorism, internalized racism and chaos.
I am so sick of other people trying to claim what is obviously BLACK CULTURE. This is theirs. Leave them alone with their culture. Stop trying to steal it.
@@LakeNonaFan what about Lloyd Banks Jim Jones young ma Joel Ortiz bodega bamz not to mention there bunch of Latin rappers besides Puerto ricans
@@foxxymoonpremires19 So easy for you to say when YOU WERE NOT THERE. Especially when YOU DID NOT EXPERIENCE EITHER. Sooooo shush your lips🤫
And they had nothing to do with creating hip-hop point-blank.
Who keeps saying that they had nothing to do with creating Because they NEVER said that but rather came up together in it and gave some contributions, PERIODT.
@@foxxymoonpremires19 What were the contributions?
@@billking1751u can't rap without beats and most break dancers were Puerto Rican
@@billking1751Google Charlie chase
@@foxxymoonpremires19y'all weren't even a part of Hip Hop when it first started. Y'all even called hip hop jungle music/ negro music. And since y'all contribute so much what have y'all contributed in the last 20 years?
I wish people stop claiming our culture.
They’re not Spanish. They’re Hispanic, there is a huge difference between the two. One is from Spain, and the others are from outside of Spain generally mixed with black, white and indigenous or one of the two or three depending on the country and region of that country.
Capri just say it bruh. You don't have to dance around it. You mentioned a black group rapping......
Picked up phone for daughter during interview 🙏💪🏽
Music is not for everyone… music is spiritual…expressed through cultural values… it’s for those that have shared values and experiences… just because one can dance to the beat, doesn’t mean it’s was intended for everyone. Be respectful! Understand boundaries… don’t think you’re entitled to have seat at the table…. Respectfully.❤❤❤
Man I’m like this there was a few Puerto Ricans that can breakdance like us. They got invited to our culture. We embraced them but we started this
i've always been under the impression that the biggest role of puerto ricans was being part of the breaking element.
The question was did Puerto Ricans CREATE. The key word was CREATE. Black Americans did not start the debate. Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans did. Unbelievable how difficult it is for them to to answer a simple question, and these are supposed to be our brothers. SMH
When I used to go the jams back in 77, 78 it was predominantly blk kids by 95%. Now after 1979 where I was from ( Bx) jams in the parks was getting played out and a lot of jams were being done in school auditoriums and small clubs.and that's when the Latinos were getting more into break dancing and whatnot.
😂😂😂Hip-hop music culture is a product of African American, Afro-Caribbean and Latino inner-city communities plagued by poverty, the proliferation of drugs, and gang violence in the 1960s and early 1970s. By providing the youth with a sense of identity and belonging, Hip-Hop's strong influence fosters a sense of unity.Hip-Hop is one of the most vibrant products of the late 20th century youth culture. Now York Puerto Ricans have been key participants, as producers and consumers of the culture and hip-hop art forms since hip-hop's very beginning during the early 1970's in the South Bronx.Many of the so-called founding fathers of hip hop were of Latin American and/or Caribbean origin, including DJ Kool Herc (Jamaican), DJ Disco Wiz (Puerto Rican and Cuban descent), Grandmaster Flash (Bajan), and Afrika Bambaataa (Jamaican and Bajan descentClive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop, Campbell began playing hard funk records of the sort typified by James Brown. Campbell began to isolate the instrumental portion of the record which emphasized the drum beat-the "break"-and switch from one break to another. Using the same two-turntable set-up of disco DJs, he used two copies of the same record to elongate the break. This breakbeat DJing, using funky drum solos, formed the basis of hip hop music. Campbell's announcements and exhortations to dancers helped lead to the syncopated, rhythmically spoken accompaniment now known as rapping.For years, Puerto Ricans have been involved in the middle of the hip hop revolution throughout its history whether it was through breakdancing, djing, and eventually the MC's. One of the first DJ's to have come into prominence is DJ Charlie Chase of the Cold Crush Brothers.African American tend to view it as exclusively their own, and even Puerto Ricans and other Latinos tend to view it as "black" music. However, its birth and development were a joint creative effort of African American and Latino Afro Caribbean youngsters, particularly, Puerto Ricans.😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🎵🎶🎧🎛🎤🇵🇷🇯🇲🇺🇸
If you’re weren’t in NYC in that era, you can’t speak on it. Even if you are black
EXACTLY 💯
This! You got ppl from Atlanta Florida Texas hating simply cause they're in their feelings on NE Coast Puerto Ricans and they don't even know us.
When it comes to everyone else IT MATTERS. When it's us IT SHOULDN'T REALLY MATTER, come on brother.
Way back early 70's "we" were cool with PR's but they stayed on the handball courts and "we" did our thing which was "HIP HOP".
Stop calling Puerto Ricans Spanish. Spanish means they are from Spain....
it's a nyc thing
Art you interview everyone but the first MC Coke LA Rock, the first female MC Sha Rock, the first break dancer Trixie, the first graffiti artist Cornbread. You don't mention Microphone Check documentary Tariq Nasheed produced that debunks all this 50/50 creation of hip-hop. At least show that you know sources for context of the questions you ask. Everyone has a problem with Black Americans claiming any art form we created because of the monetization of hip-hop.
Is grafitti more like Cholo writing or Cornbread's? Is Cornbread really the first grafitti artist? Tariq Nasheed isn't a good source for anything. He has his agenda to push like others and is not a totally objective source for information.
The answer to the QUESTION, is NO.
They were spinning Black American 🇺🇸 Records to create hip hop. 0% Puerto Rican or Jamaican records.
Afro-Americans invented break dancing, Poppin, locking, rap and hip hop! Period!
Sammy Davis and his father can be seen breakin in black and white when he was just a kid. The Mills Brothers can be seen breakin in the 30’s. You can see the Jubilares below. Rap did not start because of some guy putting it together in New Your. My dad and uncles were DJing, mixing, and sampling in the 60’e. They learned from their uncs. The House Party itself was invented in the Afro-American immunity as a way to come up on rent money. “The Call and Response”. Rested by Afro-Americans, “The rod, the roof, the roof is on fire…. We don’t need no water let the Mr burn” came out of the Civil Rights Movement. It was from Malcolm X and his “House N Field N” speech. He talked about the masters house being on fire and the House N saying “Our house on fire Master’ The roof on fire call and response was our rebellion and call to let the “Masters” house burn down. This is why we as “Afro-Americans” have to stay connected to our elders and ask questions!!
Here is a video from the 1940’s showing the Mills Brothers breakdancing:
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For Rap:
This is the first rap song. It was by the Afro-American Gospel/Folk//Proto-Rap the Jubalaires. They created rap music.
If you listen to their song “The Preacher and the Bear” you will see where “Rappers Delight” was stolen/sampled from.
Noah
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Preacher and the Bear
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The Jubalaires
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jubalaires