i love the mouse nipple, it's the laziest way to use a PC there is, and i actually even got quite good at gaming with these things. i need a lenovo again it seems, everyone else went for touchpads and i hate those things with passion!
dude, lenovo had this touch thingie above the keyboard ages ago. Yeah, it was limited and didn't have its own lcd, but for its time it was elegant. I still remember sliding the volume on an x series falling to pieces times ago, it was awesome to me to see those green shining things on the corner.
Actually, people do buy ThinkPads for their legendary battery life. ThinkPads have always been at the top when it comes to battery life, and this trend continues ... if you buy one of their more traditional laptops, such as the X250, T450s, T450, T550, W550s, etc. Oh, and you have to get the bigger battery configuration, too. But they're supposed to last 20 hours. That said, I would've liked it if you (and other TH-camrs) reviewed one of the aforementioned ThinkPads instead of their "Macbook Air competitor."
The trackpoint is convenient and saves time. When you write a lot it's very tedious to reach the mouse every time and then continue to write. With the trackpoint I don’t need to, my hands are on the keyboard all the time, thus make me very efficient at work. Not to mention the spill resistant keyboard that I have tested several times on my w530.I don’t need to be concern that something will crack when I put it in my bag because sometimes the bag become highly compressed. Excellent typing experience. Good job Lenovo!
@Zuodian-Hu: As far as I know it was done for ergonomy reasons. [(]So you could easily-find the Function button[/key] in dimly-lit environments[)]. th-cam.com/video/foOCDeiTmAo/w-d-xo.html
@@melvinharris7859 not in the slightest inferior. Harder learning curve? yes, certainly, but once you get used to it, it better than trackpad in any way. More precise, faster movement and the advantage of not moving your hand off the keyboard is just such a bliss.
Why the hate on the trackpoint (which is its real name, not "the nipple")? Trackpoints are much more accurate than a touchpad, and much faster. Further, because of your hand position to use it, it's much easier to go from typing to mousing and back again.
@@melvinharris7859 Really? If someone doesn't want to use the Trackpoint then the Touchpad is available. As long as people have choice then they aren't being forced into anything. There was a time when ThinkPad's only had the Trackpoint as the integrated pointing device, but that was long before the Touchpad first appeared in a laptop. Put it this way if Lenovo was forcing people to use the Trackpoint on a ThinkPad then the Touchpad wouldn't be available as an option.
I work in IT in a business environment and the amount of people that prefer to use the nub over the trackpad on our laptops is surprising. I can barely use them!
Someone accidentally spilled a glass of water all over the keyboard on my old X61 whilst it was on, fortunately due to the cool water channel designs the majority of the water escaped and after a thorough drying out the X61 survived to live another day.
Here's my 2 cents on the X1 Carbon, coming from my work in the IT field. We've deployed 5 X1 Carbons to clients so far and all of them love the system. It has an exceptional performance to weight ratio which the executives all love. As well, the adaptive keyboard is a huge plus point for any user who provides presentations. It can act as a very user friendly media powerhouse with these functions.The fingerprint reader is very accurate and has a high success rate; compared to other laptops which have fingerprint readers that are faulty. On top of all this, the build quality is superb as one would expect from a Thinkpad laptop. We've yet to hear any complaints when deploying the X1s. Cheers
Actually, the trackpoint and those red accented buttons are positioned as such so that you can work this laptop without your fingers and your wrists lifting off the keyboard area/palmrests. Once you get used to their setup. you will never have to lift of your hands when you wanna make the mouse pointer move. You can just use your pointing finger to move the mouse, and hit the left/right click with your thumbs. This means you can work competently even at the most compromising sitting positions. I own a T430 with the same setup, and i've turned off the touchpad completely as there's just no need. That's my favorite ergonomic design of the modern thinkpad keyboard.
The logic behind not having a 16 GB option is the same as your dismissal of the 5200U. It just doesn't make sense given the rest of the system. 95% of the time, if you will use 16GB of RAM, you will have a much more powerful processor, and probably a dedicated graphics card with it.
commanderbly009 But did Linus at any time say that it's meant for gaming? It's probably because a lot of people still buy gaming grade laptops (not with the best laptop specs) for studying. At least I know several in my school whom has laptops with Nvidia GeForce GPUs and overkill CPUs.
Maxwaehrens I meant exactly what I said, the rest of the specs on this laptop don't fall in a spot on the performance spectrum to warrant 16GB of RAM. The spots on the spectrum that do have quad core i7 HM series processors and usually a dedicated graphics card. You're right, usually laptops that warrant 16GB of RAM are either gaming notebooks or mobile workstations, but not necessarily. But you're wrong saying that an APU has a dedicated graphics card, it is actually less dedicated than the Intel ones - and until the latest generation they weren't different at all (speaking on a macro design level).
***** It's called a mobile workstation, like Dell Precision, HP Elitebook, or ThinkPad W-series. They have FirePros or Quadros. At the company I work at, only the engineers, designers, and scientists get workstations with FirePro cards - mobile or desktop - but the managers still need computers powerful enough to view and make adjustments to their work so they get Latitudes with a Radeon card.
Welcome back from Japan! I can't wait for the factory tour. I like how you reviewed a workstation notebook for once. Most of the tinkering I get to with computers is with old ones like this from the university.
Let's admit it. The laptop looks absolutely brilliant. The screen is absolutely brilliant. If only we could have the edge-to-edge keyboard like the new macbook, buttons above the touchpad placed underneath it and I wouldn't mind getting rid of the nipple. Fingerprint scanner placed lower if neccessary. That would be close to perfect ultrabook design.
Ire Min Mon And although this laptop won't do much gaming, it completely crushes a standard trackpad in that regard as well. I don't really understand why more laptops don't have it, as it's much more useful than a standard trackpad, and removing the trackpad would allow for a tiny laptop or even 21:9 without looking completely ridiculous.
jonsuttelade I believe we aren't getting 21:9 laptops too soon and I believe trackpads are the last thing that's holding 21:9 laptops down. 1dogspartan5 Rofl clit mouse. I don't really hate it or anything I just don't find it neccessarily useful as there's touchscreen already.
I've been watching Linus Laptop reviews for hours, I have no idea why. I have so much to do and I have no intention of buying a laptop anytime soon. Please send help
why is having "only 8GB" of RAM such a cripple? I can't imagine anyone using this for image or video software, so it can't be that much of a big deal... right?
ikr, especially its a business notebook, not a workstation for video editing or a gaming notebook. 4GB will be enough for me to do typing and presenting.
I absolutely love three things about lenovo laptops. The build quality/ruggedness. The amazing docking system. And the amazing/gata have it red nipple. Until you own and use a laptop with these features, you will never really get how sweet they are.
The best keyboard I've ever used on a laptop goes to the ThinkPad X230 from years ago. The keyboards on the X240 onwards were not as good but still leagues ahead of the competition. The worse keyboard I've used on a laptop is my current daily driver, the MacBook Pro 2016.
For the record, the users of the red mouse-nipple are not extinct. I've got this laptop's big brother, the T540p, and I find the red dot much more friendly than the touchpad. It circumvents the tracking issues of the T540p's touchpad (a different touchpad from the X1) , and reduces hand fatigue during extended use.
Linus, you're not suppose to click the bottom for left and right click. you're suppose to click it anywhere (2 fingers if you want right click), hence why there's frequent misclick. There is no button on the bottom of the trackpad
I like that you touched on a business product, Linus. I wouldn't mind seeing more in the future, since I am starting to develop a personal knowledge base of professional must-haves in the configuration of business laptops and desktops alongside my knowledge of enthusiast grade configs. Also I just signed up for Dollar shave club using your affiliate code. Thanks for the vid and keep 'em coming. Hope you're having a fab time in east Asia.
Here's the reason for the track point: your fingers never leave the home row and your right thumb is just over the buttons. Also having *a proper* 3-button mouse is killer (assuming your OS supports middle-click paste). This is why touch-typists and unix people love the track point. It is the pointing device on a laptop done *right*.
Uriah Siner The fact that it can used day in and day out and still look and feel somewhat new. ThinkPads used to be renowned for their longevity and robustness.
usually it's build quality; especially of the keyboard. Also the pre-installed operating system, "consumer" Windows does not work in a business domain which usually uses Active Directory. Hardware specs are not that much of a concern.
Uriah Siner Build quality, great solid feeling keyboard, relatively compact, matte screen, warranty, services and stripped from many gaming gimmicks. Lenovo and Apple usually hitting the mark.Of course "business grade" doesn't mean all above is true. Dell, HP and many others these days sell their normal shit with just higher price tag, because clueless buying department just buy from the only brand they know and only buy it because it reads it's meant for business.
Can you explain why this is a big deal? Im in the market for a laptop and in deciding between a Dell (which has the traditional keyboard layout) and a Thinkpad. Is this a big enough issue to not consider the Lenovo?
+J Perez, most people are used to have the Control key at the left-bottom corner of the keyboard, when they start using a keyboard with the function in that spot they make a lot of mistakes while triggering shortcuts. However, it really isn't a big deal, at least 90% of the computers I used have the option to swipe them, including Lenovos. Really nonsense.
@BeastyNinjaGaming put pressure on it in the direction you would like the pointer to travel, more pressure to go faster. It is like a joystick but nipple does not actually move.
***** More likely they would've put a GeForce G210M in there, as that seems to be the "Lenovo way". Just look at those older A10-6700 (Radeon HD 8670D) OEM PCs, that they crippeled by putting (a lot slower) R5 235 GPUs into them and you'll see, what I mean. And no, that was not a joke, although it might sound like one.
To viewers born after 2000, the "nipple" is like an analog stick for the cursor, only in my memory it was much less responsive and harder to use than the one on the PS(1) because of its small size.
We have lenove at school the Orange nipple is a mouse this is why buttons at top of trackpad at school we have lenove the buttons are at the bottom and top
>4 GB is pathetic for a modern computer I've been using my Mid 2012 Macbook Pro with 4 GB of RAM for three years now. I think Linus smoked a joint before recording this. And yes, I'm a Apple fan. No h8 pls
So does this model come preloaded with their SSL Spyware? Seriously concerning... Makes it difficult to trust the brand regardless of build quality or specs.
Thanks a lot for the review - I'm seriously considering buying this model second hand :) If typing on this keyboard is really comfortable, I think it's definitely worth it.
Buy this one from a specialist lenovo seller on ebay. I did the same a couple of months ago and I have no regrets at all! The best laptop I have ever had so far...
Ted SN That's an odd way of measuring how old something is. Even still that's 2011 at most... these nipples have been about since before the touchpads (early 90s).
I have played with these laptops, and you can customize the touch areas on the touchpad. It was surprisingly easy to customize and worked perfectly after that. I made the left and right click take up the whole touchpad and even set two and three finger click. That being said, I have no clue why it is set up as is out of the box. The older customers this laptop may appeal to would have a horrible time working the software albeit finding it in the first place.
Linus is wrong about dedicated right and left buttons for track pads....The Mac Books implementation of smart track pads shits on anything else in the market you only need a click and right click for business is less useful than gaming....
I have used Laptops from many manufacturers, and for the last 8 or so years nobody has been able to make a touch pad as good as Apple. Its one of the main reasons i use an Apple on the go. They integrated the touchpad so well in their OS its amazing.... I from my understanding, that for a majority of mobile users the touchpad is the most important feature, but laptop manufactures just keep shipping out sheet touch pads and expect to sell units. Until they fix the button touch pads i am going to be happy using a Apple notebook because i know the mobile experience is not going to be clunky having to use one finger to move the pointer and the other to right click... Surface Pro 3 and Acer's M5 are 70% of apples touchpad the rest are garbage level
Byzantine Yup! My thoughts exactly. This computer looks and has the same specs as my Macbook, but costs more and has a GARBAGE track pad. I've been spoiled by my trackpad and battery life, it'll be hard to convince me to give up my Macbook pro for on-the-go use.
Quannix Rainbowaxe Yeah...i use a mouse too, but when i go to Uni, or doing work on the train ect, having a good utility touchpad is good without having to use two hands i can click with one ect ect....to me the difference is almost comparable to having a SSD and no SSD. Its more useful, reduces the chunkiness of only using the touchpad ect
Should do the "I forgot my Laptop in the Rain" Test on this to qualify credibility of Business class products compared to run of the mill consumer products.
Best business laptop is the macbook pro. 9 hours of battery life with a fantastic screen and support for both windows AND mac os make it pretty nice to use. Can go a full business day without recharge which I haven't got out of any of my windows pc's. Also looks fantastic. Not even that expensive.
I changed a screen on one of these at work not too bad to change its the same as any other except the outer shell and panel are all one piece. Making it an expensive as hell replacement piece. Very nice computer though super solid and no key flex 8gb ram i7 and 512gb ssd it was super fast and the anti fingerprint screen was wonderful
I have a ThinkPad and I always use the red mouse thing! And I love having the left and right click on top of the track pad, so I can use them with the red mouse thing.
Man track points are the best when you get used to them. I never have to really lift my hands off the keyboard which sounds like a dumb pro but when your used to it, it feels awkward to go back to a touch pad again lol
I thought the rationale of swapping Ctrl and Fn was to keep the Ctrl, Win, and Alt keys adjacent like on desktop keyboards. Also, surely using two fingers for right-click is more intuitive than having a dedicated button (or area of the touchpad) since you can essentially right-click anywhere on the touchpad just by adding a second finger, rather than having a thumb/finger constantly anchored to the bottom.
@ the part "I thought the rationale of swapping Ctrl and Fn was to keep the Ctrl, Win, and Alt keys adjacent like on desktop keyboards" of @Thomas-Richards's-comment/post: As far as I know it was done for ergonomy reasons. [(]So you could easily-find the Function button[/key] in dimly-lit environments[)]. th-cam.com/video/foOCDeiTmAo/w-d-xo.html
Ive had my Sony Vaio pro 13 for about a year and a half now and it pretty much has exactly the same specs as this "new" ultrabook.. Down to the carbon fiber shell. The day they make gaming grade ultrabooks will be wonderful, til then they are just super cool word processors lol
Great video. I don't understand what makes this a "business" laptop though. I just bought one because it is thin and lightweight. Are the Dell XPS 13, ASUS Zenbook, Acer S7 (or whatever it's called), and Macbook Air also "business" laptops then? I got the base processor (I'm cheap) and upgraded to the 256 SSD and 8GB of memory. I also immediately wiped Windows 8 off of it and installed Fedora 21 which is running pretty smoothly. Keep up the good work, Linus and team.
Great review. I wish that these PC companies would be more reasonable with their pre-made choices, but I get the feeling that we're perpetually stuck with bad deals that make extra money for the company while screwing over the customer. Nothing like ignoring the basic rules of economics by placing a blindfold over your less tech-savvy customers. No wonder people like old macs more.
My main laptop, which is about a year old (Dell Latitude E6530, 16GB of RAM, i5 processor, I forget the exact model, 256GB SSD, etc. so its pretty good) has that "keyboard nipple." I've used it a little, but I just can't get any precision out of it. I remember being at the "Super Computer Show" in Madison Wisconsin back in the early 2000s (I'll be 20 on Friday, so I'm still a "young'n") I was still in Elementary school at the time, but I just was captivated by the pointing stick on the keyboard. It was so weird and new to me...
I use a thinkpad yoga 12 and i absolutely love the red nub and the middle scroll button. It's especially useful for me because the trackpad on this laptop is so tiny.
Thumbs up for the video presentation and I agree about having switches below the touch pad, that would definitely piss me off. And I wanted to say that It would be cool if you could do a long rant once and a while and accidently run out of battery if you ever do an unboxing outside again, to me that was original of you.
I can't believe they still have the red nipple. I remember using it once in the past 9 years. And i only used it because i was 6 and we were using them in school.
Please do a back-to-back comparison between Dell XPS 13 and HP Spectre X360! I'm especially keen on hearing your opinion on the typing experience of the HP with it's 1.5 mm key-travel distance. Anyway, great review!
"4GBs is pathetic for any modern computer."
I have 2. The shame.
I have a x1 carbon and it is 16gb
@@leolibbyii340 Um, which generation is it? Just curious! :D
@@dragoninventor All Gen 3 had the option of 4, 8 and 16 gb of ram! They're soldered on the board is all.
As far as I am aware, you can change the Fn key to act as the Crtl key and vice cred in the BIOS.
i love the mouse nipple, it's the laziest way to use a PC there is, and i actually even got quite good at gaming with these things. i need a lenovo again it seems, everyone else went for touchpads and i hate those things with passion!
OMG, APPLE RIPPED OFF LENOVO WITH THE TOUCH BAR
dude, lenovo had this touch thingie above the keyboard ages ago. Yeah, it was limited and didn't have its own lcd, but for its time it was elegant.
I still remember sliding the volume on an x series falling to pieces times ago, it was awesome to me to see those green shining things on the corner.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
Clacking Computer when I saw that clip... oh man... apple truly didn't innovate any of their products... :-/
apple didn't innovate it, but I think we can all agree that it improved it.
That's all they can do.
Actually, people do buy ThinkPads for their legendary battery life. ThinkPads have always been at the top when it comes to battery life, and this trend continues ... if you buy one of their more traditional laptops, such as the X250, T450s, T450, T550, W550s, etc. Oh, and you have to get the bigger battery configuration, too. But they're supposed to last 20 hours.
That said, I would've liked it if you (and other TH-camrs) reviewed one of the aforementioned ThinkPads instead of their "Macbook Air competitor."
The trackpoint is convenient and saves time. When you write a lot it's very tedious to reach the mouse every time and then continue to write. With the trackpoint I don’t need to, my hands are on the keyboard all the time, thus make me very efficient at work. Not to mention the spill resistant keyboard that I have tested several times on my w530.I don’t need to be concern that something will crack when I put it in my bag because sometimes the bag become highly compressed. Excellent typing experience. Good job Lenovo!
Fn/Ctrl swap has been a standard in ThinkPads for forever. It was like that in my dad's Core 2 Duo T40, and it's like that on my W530 from 2012.
@Zuodian-Hu:
As far as I know it was done for ergonomy reasons. [(]So you could easily-find the Function button[/key] in dimly-lit environments[)].
th-cam.com/video/foOCDeiTmAo/w-d-xo.html
If the reviewer has to use the touchpad instead of trackpoint+trackpad buttons, he clearly doesn't know how to use a ThinkPad.
@@melvinharris7859 inferior? i can agree that it fell out of favor because most people prefer trackpads but that's a hell of a claim
@@melvinharris7859 bet you never really used that thing
@@melvinharris7859 I've actually disabled my touchpad in the bios. The trackPoint's awesome.
@@melvinharris7859 not in the slightest inferior. Harder learning curve? yes, certainly, but once you get used to it, it better than trackpad in any way. More precise, faster movement and the advantage of not moving your hand off the keyboard is just such a bliss.
Why the hate on the trackpoint (which is its real name, not "the nipple")? Trackpoints are much more accurate than a touchpad, and much faster. Further, because of your hand position to use it, it's much easier to go from typing to mousing and back again.
Also the Trackpoint is much easier to use than the touchpad with its unintuitive gestures.
@@melvinharris7859 Really? If someone doesn't want to use the Trackpoint then the Touchpad is available. As long as people have choice then they aren't being forced into anything. There was a time when ThinkPad's only had the Trackpoint as the integrated pointing device, but that was long before the Touchpad first appeared in a laptop.
Put it this way if Lenovo was forcing people to use the Trackpoint on a ThinkPad then the Touchpad wouldn't be available as an option.
great for video editing too. dragging and dropping is a breeze.
I tried playing an RTS game on a trackpoint. Bad idea.
Some one who watching this video hello from 2019
2020
March 2020
@@somehowie that's a funny way to spell hell
2021📌
Hello from 2021.....can you add a second ssd though to this particular generation of thinkpad x1 carbon
Wow, he actually gave some deal breaking negatives. Much respect to not give in.
I work in IT in a business environment and the amount of people that prefer to use the nub over the trackpad on our laptops is surprising. I can barely use them!
I use them when I'm working in networking. I often have gloves on when I'm on the field which is where I use the nipple religiously.
@@julianmorales-silva160 this usecase when the nipple really shine. when you use glove
@Laserdreams:
Here: th-cam.com/video/7H8o_-7bKIU/w-d-xo.html
I think a test of the legendary durability would be good, to see if it still holds the same standards as before.
Dan Wimble Plus we can see how it compares to the rain soaked Dell XPS in a similar drenching.
Kuldip Panesar if they let it dry, there is a 95% chance it will survive...
Someone accidentally spilled a glass of water all over the keyboard on my old X61 whilst it was on, fortunately due to the cool water channel designs the majority of the water escaped and after a thorough drying out the X61 survived to live another day.
Kuldip Panesar So is it dead right now, Or dose it still work?
PC Tech Tips can you read?
Here's my 2 cents on the X1 Carbon, coming from my work in the IT field. We've deployed 5 X1 Carbons to clients so far and all of them love the system. It has an exceptional performance to weight ratio which the executives all love. As well, the adaptive keyboard is a huge plus point for any user who provides presentations. It can act as a very user friendly media powerhouse with these functions.The fingerprint reader is very accurate and has a high success rate; compared to other laptops which have fingerprint readers that are faulty. On top of all this, the build quality is superb as one would expect from a Thinkpad laptop. We've yet to hear any complaints when deploying the X1s.
Cheers
How could you review this laptop and not mention the main selling point and thing that makes it unique, durability and weather resistance?
"click my face to learn more" that definitely killed my anxiety and gave me smile. thanks linus!
So do Lenovo products no longer come with Superfish installed at this point?
ThinkPad series never did.
Ire Min Mon Ahh I see, thanks for the insight good sir!
Not So Pro Gamer Yes hey do, they were caught once again afaik
pranshavs Not on the ThinkPads though
pranshavs thats why you never buy laptop with an OS that has bunch off adware installed already.
Actually, the trackpoint and those red accented buttons are positioned as such so that you can work this laptop without your fingers and your wrists lifting off the keyboard area/palmrests. Once you get used to their setup. you will never have to lift of your hands when you wanna make the mouse pointer move. You can just use your pointing finger to move the mouse, and hit the left/right click with your thumbs. This means you can work competently even at the most compromising sitting positions. I own a T430 with the same setup, and i've turned off the touchpad completely as there's just no need. That's my favorite ergonomic design of the modern thinkpad keyboard.
The logic behind not having a 16 GB option is the same as your dismissal of the 5200U. It just doesn't make sense given the rest of the system. 95% of the time, if you will use 16GB of RAM, you will have a much more powerful processor, and probably a dedicated graphics card with it.
Dedicated graphics card in a laptop? You must be speaking of a APU unless you're talking about gaming laptops which this video has nothing to do with.
commanderbly009 But did Linus at any time say that it's meant for gaming? It's probably because a lot of people still buy gaming grade laptops (not with the best laptop specs) for studying. At least I know several in my school whom has laptops with Nvidia GeForce GPUs and overkill CPUs.
Maxwaehrens I meant exactly what I said, the rest of the specs on this laptop don't fall in a spot on the performance spectrum to warrant 16GB of RAM. The spots on the spectrum that do have quad core i7 HM series processors and usually a dedicated graphics card. You're right, usually laptops that warrant 16GB of RAM are either gaming notebooks or mobile workstations, but not necessarily. But you're wrong saying that an APU has a dedicated graphics card, it is actually less dedicated than the Intel ones - and until the latest generation they weren't different at all (speaking on a macro design level).
Folopolis Oh I didn't mean that the APU includes a mobile GPU, I'm pretty sure that is impossible.
***** It's called a mobile workstation, like Dell Precision, HP Elitebook, or ThinkPad W-series. They have FirePros or Quadros. At the company I work at, only the engineers, designers, and scientists get workstations with FirePro cards - mobile or desktop - but the managers still need computers powerful enough to view and make adjustments to their work so they get Latitudes with a Radeon card.
Welcome back from Japan! I can't wait for the factory tour. I like how you reviewed a workstation notebook for once. Most of the tinkering I get to with computers is with old ones like this from the university.
It's beautiful and will sell well to its target demographic.
I remember my roommate in college in 2007 had on of these and it being like super powerful for the time. That red nipple takes me back.
I'm 15 and I used to have a laptop with a nubbin thing. It was great.
'nubbin thing' good name...
Danny Strain Is your age really relevant?
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***** Yep.
Samzo111 I just came across a name "clit mouse" and I can't stop laughing about it.
That's why I purchased a Lenovo laptop because of the keyboard.... It feels so good that it makes you type better
"I never had a PC with a fingerprint scanner before." Linus, you had one in your HP EliteBook 9470m review, wasn't that your laptop?
Best video in awhile Linus, most of your recent videos have been boring but not this one!
:D
Let's admit it. The laptop looks absolutely brilliant. The screen is absolutely brilliant. If only we could have the edge-to-edge keyboard like the new macbook, buttons above the touchpad placed underneath it and I wouldn't mind getting rid of the nipple. Fingerprint scanner placed lower if neccessary. That would be close to perfect ultrabook design.
Ire Min Mon The nipple is brilliant! Try it if you have the option somehow (but for a whole hour or so not just 2 minutes) you will understand :)
Johannes Kurz In case I get a chance I will. I did notice some people have a soft spot for it, but since there's touchscreen already...
Ire Min Mon
It is great. The first PC I had was a Win95 IBM Thinkpad where the only control for mouse was the nipple. It's perfect
Ire Min Mon
And although this laptop won't do much gaming, it completely crushes a standard trackpad in that regard as well. I don't really understand why more laptops don't have it, as it's much more useful than a standard trackpad, and removing the trackpad would allow for a tiny laptop or even 21:9 without looking completely ridiculous.
jonsuttelade I believe we aren't getting 21:9 laptops too soon and I believe trackpads are the last thing that's holding 21:9 laptops down.
1dogspartan5 Rofl clit mouse. I don't really hate it or anything I just don't find it neccessarily useful as there's touchscreen already.
Got to prepare one of these things when I was doing an IT internship. I shed a manly tear when I had to give it to the user.
I've been watching Linus Laptop reviews for hours, I have no idea why. I have so much to do and I have no intention of buying a laptop anytime soon. Please send help
Even though I signed up for vessel, Ive just been waiting for youtube for all these videos simply because of the feed.
why is having "only 8GB" of RAM such a cripple? I can't imagine anyone using this for image or video software, so it can't be that much of a big deal... right?
fair point :)
forgot how horrible chrome is with memory
ikr, especially its a business notebook, not a workstation for video editing or a gaming notebook. 4GB will be enough for me to do typing and presenting.
Chrome.
Dominic Maas and I remember why I upgraded to 32gb RAM
mannosan The real cripple is no DIMM slots, so you are stuck with the amount of memory you get when purchased.
I absolutely love three things about lenovo laptops. The build quality/ruggedness. The amazing docking system. And the amazing/gata have it red nipple. Until you own and use a laptop with these features, you will never really get how sweet they are.
3:16 "Bizare adaptive capacitive button"
RIP MacBook Pro 2016
The best keyboard I've ever used on a laptop goes to the ThinkPad X230 from years ago. The keyboards on the X240 onwards were not as good but still leagues ahead of the competition. The worse keyboard I've used on a laptop is my current daily driver, the MacBook Pro 2016.
Linus review the HP Omen allready its the best looking Lappy of the year
I like you expanding into modern utilitarian computing
To think about Thinkpad... I'm heading back because of red dot
For the record, the users of the red mouse-nipple are not extinct. I've got this laptop's big brother, the T540p, and I find the red dot much more friendly than the touchpad. It circumvents the tracking issues of the T540p's touchpad (a different touchpad from the X1) , and reduces hand fatigue during extended use.
These comments.. *facepalm*
IKR..... Sadly I can't like a comment on mobile
Aahir Mridha Then what the fuck did you just.... *Points M16 at face*
I commented 125th.....
Ahhh, I miss the nub. There is something just so majestic about it.
but can it play mienkraft?!?
Probs 120fps minimum
You could probably play just about anything on this thing. FPS might suck tho
Patrick Mathew Pffft, every1 noes that 24 fps is the best looking
Derek Bond everyone knows our eyes can only see 24 FPS!
Anthony Sparta No it can only see 24 you stupid moron
This gives me nostalgia for the time I saw this on Vessel.
PLEASE! WAN show with Lisa from MobileTechReview! I would cry.
Linus, you're not suppose to click the bottom for left and right click. you're suppose to click it anywhere (2 fingers if you want right click), hence why there's frequent misclick. There is no button on the bottom of the trackpad
Linus, be honest, 8GB is more then enough, unless you're using a lot of JAVA programs...
Chrome.
I like that you touched on a business product, Linus. I wouldn't mind seeing more in the future, since I am starting to develop a personal knowledge base of professional must-haves in the configuration of business laptops and desktops alongside my knowledge of enthusiast grade configs. Also I just signed up for Dollar shave club using your affiliate code. Thanks for the vid and keep 'em coming. Hope you're having a fab time in east Asia.
Dear science who presses SPACE with their index finger.
+Miloš Mišić Strucnjaci kao Linus xD
Here's the reason for the track point: your fingers never leave the home row and your right thumb is just over the buttons. Also having *a proper* 3-button mouse is killer (assuming your OS supports middle-click paste). This is why touch-typists and unix people love the track point. It is the pointing device on a laptop done *right*.
what exactly make a laptop "business" grade?
Uriah Siner The fact that it can used day in and day out and still look and feel somewhat new. ThinkPads used to be renowned for their longevity and robustness.
usually it's build quality; especially of the keyboard. Also the pre-installed operating system, "consumer" Windows does not work in a business domain which usually uses Active Directory. Hardware specs are not that much of a concern.
Uriah Siner Build quality, great solid feeling keyboard, relatively compact, matte screen, warranty, services and stripped from many gaming gimmicks.
Lenovo and Apple usually hitting the mark.Of course "business grade" doesn't mean all above is true. Dell, HP and many others these days sell their normal shit with just higher price tag, because clueless buying department just buy from the only brand they know and only buy it because it reads it's meant for business.
Usually it's the Onsite-replacement/repair warranty.
Innovative exaggerated I/O in most cases. Usually in a compact form. Along with everything guys mentioned before me.
never change the intro music. Its fucking great!
I hate the fn button placement. ctrl should be on the bottom left
thank you!!
You can swap it in BIOS.
Can you explain why this is a big deal? Im in the market for a laptop and in deciding between a Dell (which has the traditional keyboard layout) and a Thinkpad. Is this a big enough issue to not consider the Lenovo?
+J Perez, most people are used to have the Control key at the left-bottom corner of the keyboard, when they start using a keyboard with the function in that spot they make a lot of mistakes while triggering shortcuts. However, it really isn't a big deal, at least 90% of the computers I used have the option to swipe them, including Lenovos. Really nonsense.
@BeastyNinjaGaming put pressure on it in the direction you would like the pointer to travel, more pressure to go faster. It is like a joystick but nipple does not actually move.
Nothing on the weak sauce graphics? They could have at least put an 840M or a K1100M in there, or offered it.
***** But it's a "business" laptop. That allows them to put whatever the fuck they want to in it. Right...? lol
...it's a business laptop, not a professional mobile workstation. there's a difference.
It's a business laptop. It needs to have graphics just good enough to do flash apps and HD video.
With a 13 hundred dollar price point? Seems legit.
***** More likely they would've put a GeForce G210M in there, as that seems to be the "Lenovo way". Just look at those older A10-6700 (Radeon HD 8670D) OEM PCs, that they crippeled by putting (a lot slower) R5 235 GPUs into them and you'll see, what I mean. And no, that was not a joke, although it might sound like one.
Video posted ahead of schedule. Good job.
Can you please comment on Linux compatibility in your reviews. Thanks.
Linus is barely competent about/around Linux/NIX*
To viewers born after 2000, the "nipple" is like an analog stick for the cursor, only in my memory it was much less responsive and harder to use than the one on the PS(1) because of its small size.
So what does the 'orange nipple' actually do?
It is like a joystick which you use as a mouse. I have a ThinkPad Edge 15 from dec. 2010
Controls the cursor on the screen, just like a real human nipple
The "TrackPoint" and a better-than-average keyboard are the two things that make a ThinkPad a ThinkPad.
We have lenove at school the Orange nipple is a mouse this is why buttons at top of trackpad at school we have lenove the buttons are at the bottom and top
BeastyNinjaGaming It's an alternate to trackpads. A lot of people (myself included) still prefer the nipple to the trackpad.
This is the laptop I got given at work. It has the i7 5600u 8 gb ram and an ssd. I am loving it. the mouse is crap though
>4 GB is pathetic for a modern computer
I've been using my Mid 2012 Macbook Pro with 4 GB of RAM for three years now. I think Linus smoked a joint before recording this.
And yes, I'm a Apple fan. No h8 pls
Actually checked my Instagram this morning.. And I think you just got to Japan.. :O This video has Linus from the FUTURE! O_O
So does this model come preloaded with their SSL Spyware? Seriously concerning... Makes it difficult to trust the brand regardless of build quality or specs.
Did I actually manage to make it in as part of the 301 club? Nice!
"4G is paphetic"
Me has 2G
:c
Thanks a lot for the review - I'm seriously considering buying this model second hand :) If typing on this keyboard is really comfortable, I think it's definitely worth it.
Buy this one from a specialist lenovo seller on ebay. I did the same a couple of months ago and I have no regrets at all! The best laptop I have ever had so far...
@@csk will it be worth in 2020 if i get the 4th gen version ?
Im am using the nipple on my school computer becuse its an old sandy bridge computer and the touch pad sucks
I don't think the sandy bridge factor is really that old... it's just the computer
the reason I said sandy bridge was just to get an idea of how old it is
Ted SN That's an odd way of measuring how old something is. Even still that's 2011 at most... these nipples have been about since before the touchpads (early 90s).
Ted SN Well, I for one do not miss the old days of caressing laptop nipples... err... O_o
We have Intel P4 PCs at school
I have played with these laptops, and you can customize the touch areas on the touchpad. It was surprisingly easy to customize and worked perfectly after that. I made the left and right click take up the whole touchpad and even set two and three finger click. That being said, I have no clue why it is set up as is out of the box. The older customers this laptop may appeal to would have a horrible time working the software albeit finding it in the first place.
Linus is wrong about dedicated right and left buttons for track pads....The Mac Books implementation of smart track pads shits on anything else in the market you only need a click and right click for business is less useful than gaming....
The little mistakes are what reminds me that Linus is not a robot that just reads scripts...LOL
I have used Laptops from many manufacturers, and for the last 8 or so years nobody has been able to make a touch pad as good as Apple. Its one of the main reasons i use an Apple on the go. They integrated the touchpad so well in their OS its amazing....
I from my understanding, that for a majority of mobile users the touchpad is the most important feature, but laptop manufactures just keep shipping out sheet touch pads and expect to sell units. Until they fix the button touch pads i am going to be happy using a Apple notebook because i know the mobile experience is not going to be clunky having to use one finger to move the pointer and the other to right click...
Surface Pro 3 and Acer's M5 are 70% of apples touchpad the rest are garbage level
What the fuck are you trying to say? Your complete lack of punctuation is making me unsure of your goal.
Byzantine Yup! My thoughts exactly. This computer looks and has the same specs as my Macbook, but costs more and has a GARBAGE track pad. I've been spoiled by my trackpad and battery life, it'll be hard to convince me to give up my Macbook pro for on-the-go use.
Quannix Rainbowaxe Yeah...i use a mouse too, but when i go to Uni, or doing work on the train ect, having a good utility touchpad is good without having to use two hands i can click with one ect ect....to me the difference is almost comparable to having a SSD and no SSD. Its more useful, reduces the chunkiness of only using the touchpad ect
I never skip the commercial, only because I like you.
is linus wearing makeup?
Beautiful piece of computing equipment thanks for showing out!
Back in the day, I played Starcraft Brood War on those middle nub stick thingy. Brings back memories.
Should do the "I forgot my Laptop in the Rain" Test on this to qualify credibility of Business class products compared to run of the mill consumer products.
The right-left mouse button is meant to be used with the red nipple. =D its meant to be on top of trackpad, not below.
Best business laptop is the macbook pro. 9 hours of battery life with a fantastic screen and support for both windows AND mac os make it pretty nice to use. Can go a full business day without recharge which I haven't got out of any of my windows pc's. Also looks fantastic. Not even that expensive.
I changed a screen on one of these at work not too bad to change its the same as any other except the outer shell and panel are all one piece. Making it an expensive as hell replacement piece. Very nice computer though super solid and no key flex 8gb ram i7 and 512gb ssd it was super fast and the anti fingerprint screen was wonderful
I have a ThinkPad and I always use the red mouse thing! And I love having the left and right click on top of the track pad, so I can use them with the red mouse thing.
just posted my first video today! you among other youtubers inspired me to create my own and its fun!
A half-decent trackpoint is, imho, a joy to use and has the advantage of not getting in the way or needing to be disabled while typing.
At 2:09, I think that stopped being true when Apple started selling an iMac for "just" $1100 with a 5400 RPM traditional spinning hard disk.
Man track points are the best when you get used to them. I never have to really lift my hands off the keyboard which sounds like a dumb pro but when your used to it, it feels awkward to go back to a touch pad again lol
Rain test?
Seriously. I love this laptop. I wish I could afford one for work
Don't hate on the nubbin, I always use it over the (honestly very good) trackpad on my Thinkpad Yoga
We need a new Thinkpad T60. Same as the old one, but with modern motherboard. Lenovo, do it!
I thought the rationale of swapping Ctrl and Fn was to keep the Ctrl, Win, and Alt keys adjacent like on desktop keyboards. Also, surely using two fingers for right-click is more intuitive than having a dedicated button (or area of the touchpad) since you can essentially right-click anywhere on the touchpad just by adding a second finger, rather than having a thumb/finger constantly anchored to the bottom.
@ the part "I thought the rationale of swapping Ctrl and Fn was to keep the Ctrl, Win, and Alt keys adjacent like on desktop keyboards" of @Thomas-Richards's-comment/post:
As far as I know it was done for ergonomy reasons. [(]So you could easily-find the Function button[/key] in dimly-lit environments[)].
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The trackpad wouldn't bother me, as I prefer TrackPoint anyways. I just find it more comfortable.
Ive had my Sony Vaio pro 13 for about a year and a half now and it pretty much has exactly the same specs as this "new" ultrabook.. Down to the carbon fiber shell. The day they make gaming grade ultrabooks will be wonderful, til then they are just super cool word processors lol
Great video. I don't understand what makes this a "business" laptop though. I just bought one because it is thin and lightweight. Are the Dell XPS 13, ASUS Zenbook, Acer S7 (or whatever it's called), and Macbook Air also "business" laptops then? I got the base processor (I'm cheap) and upgraded to the 256 SSD and 8GB of memory. I also immediately wiped Windows 8 off of it and installed Fedora 21 which is running pretty smoothly. Keep up the good work, Linus and team.
I'm only 25 and I remember the red nipple, but our high school had all thinkpads for laptops....I think we're talking IBM ones too.
Great review. I wish that these PC companies would be more reasonable with their pre-made choices, but I get the feeling that we're perpetually stuck with bad deals that make extra money for the company while screwing over the customer.
Nothing like ignoring the basic rules of economics by placing a blindfold over your less tech-savvy customers. No wonder people like old macs more.
welcome back my friend, as long as you stay ill stay.
My main laptop, which is about a year old (Dell Latitude E6530, 16GB of RAM, i5 processor, I forget the exact model, 256GB SSD, etc. so its pretty good) has that "keyboard nipple." I've used it a little, but I just can't get any precision out of it.
I remember being at the "Super Computer Show" in Madison Wisconsin back in the early 2000s (I'll be 20 on Friday, so I'm still a "young'n") I was still in Elementary school at the time, but I just was captivated by the pointing stick on the keyboard. It was so weird and new to me...
I use a thinkpad yoga 12 and i absolutely love the red nub and the middle scroll button. It's especially useful for me because the trackpad on this laptop is so tiny.
Louis would like this I think. Aside from the RAM thing.
Glad to see the mouse nub. I had always preferred those to the track pad.
It's okay that you dissed this laptop, your used to optimized desktops. And I agree with you on the mouse button and the giant nipple. Lol
Thumbs up for the video presentation and I agree about having switches below the touch pad, that would definitely piss me off. And I wanted to say that It would be cool if you could do a long rant once and a while and accidently run out of battery if you ever do an unboxing outside again, to me that was original of you.
I can't believe they still have the red nipple. I remember using it once in the past 9 years. And i only used it because i was 6 and we were using them in school.
That pageup, pagedown above directional keys is a great idea. I would not mind to have that on my desktop keyboard.
Please do a back-to-back comparison between Dell XPS 13 and HP Spectre X360!
I'm especially keen on hearing your opinion on the typing experience of the HP with it's 1.5 mm key-travel distance.
Anyway, great review!
Single best reviewer I have ever seen.