Starfield Is Bad... (I'm Done with Bethesda)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2023
- Starfield is an action role-playing game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It was announced during Bethesda's E3 presentation in 2018. The game takes place in a space-themed setting, and is the first new intellectual property developed by Bethesda in 25 years. The game was released for Windows and Xbox Series X/S on September 6, 2023.
...25 years huh for this. After Skyrim and New Vegas i had hope that Bethesda would bring this back but....
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It just works
😂😂😂😂😂
It just crashes..
It hates my I9 so bad I have to turn off hyperthreading just to play and it still crashes my system.
@DeadCat-42 cyberpunk with the same issue. These games are just made to sell high-end pc parts.
Got it to run at 2k ultra with XeSS support.
Looks great now.
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@@badger_bub i run cyberpunk at 2k ultra ray tracing
New Vegas is not a Bethesda game.
Notice they haven't had a good quality game since Obsidian??
It's the only true Fallout game since Fallout 2.
I honestly would love a game to be better than new vegas. bethesda just keeps making games that are worse story and rpg wise
though starfield is definitely a giant leap in the right direction@@pokermitten9795
@@pokermitten9795 It is.
Ironically, it's the best modern Fallout game and it was made by Obsidian with less time and less money 😂
Maybe people will now realise that Bethesda is not an AAA developer. They just identify themself as one.
They’re definitely the “ I identify as “ sort of company now, that much is clear.
Just a below average studio with a AAA budget.
Nah, they are definetly a triple a developer, and the millions of people who buy their games agree.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh Yeah. Their buggy releases and mediocre gameplay says otherwise.
But hey. A million flies can't be wrong, right?
@@CrniWuk😂 stop hating. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we are flies. Maybe yall just love to complain. Starfield is space skyrim and I LOVE Skyrim. 😂😂. This game has basically three games in one, The Outpost System, The Spaceship system and the base shooting game.
Love how you can carry around 500 pounds of food , eat it all and it barley adds health
Lol pure logic right there
Well. It's food. Not health potions😅
It's like that in every Bethesda game. Even New Vegas, the game everyone loves 😂😂😂
i mean that's realistic, try eating 500 pounds of food irl you'll just die
The fanboys will tell you that it's more realistic because you can't heal with food irl
But for some reason having Jedi powers flies over their head when it comes to "rEaLiSm"
I think what we're realizing slowly but surely is that Bethesda is a premiere game company of an era, and that era is now in the past.
Nailed it. Realized this a while ago. I asked myself why I still see Bethesda as a top gaming company, because the quality dropoff feels gigantic. The modding community has BY FAR impressed me the most in any of their games.
That's exactly what happened. I've been telling people for years that Bethesda is no longer the company they thought they were.
By 20 years...the age of the graphics engine they JUST reused..
What. A. Shock.
They've been in the past since Skyrim. This is nothing new for us who've been shitting on bethesda since the 2010s...
@bartgabor that error been past for 20 years. The normies are just now starting to figure it out.
This game would of been groundbreaking if it came out in 2012. In 2023 - after we've played incredible RPG games like Baldur's Gate 3, Elden Ring, heck even Cyberpunk - Starfield is just BORING, uninspired and dated.
Even then it wouldn't have been good. I get what people mean when they say this would have been amazing if released back then, but I genuinely don't think so lol.
People had standards back then, even more so than now
I mean... GTA V came out in 2013, and there is no comparison. Witcher 3 came out in 2015. It would have been an impressive game maybe if it released with the first Mass Effect, but it would have been a bad RPG back then too :/
Yes you are right
The UI is just as bad as it was decades ago.
It's like no one at Bethesda has ever used a keyboard or mouse.
Ever since fallout 4 Bethesda have been such a let down
facts
@@confessioncritic really takes the hype out of TES6, modders will probably turn Skyrim into a better elderscrolls sequel at this point.
@@liamisic911 ikr, seeing TES turned into a lifeless husk is going to be so painful, after years of building the series into what it is
Fallout 4 is going to be the last fallout game next to fallout 76 on playstation, all the new ones will be for xbox and pc only so if you dont have a good pc or xbox its time to say goodbye to bethesda games
@@confessioncritic we saw Ubisoft do it with Assassin’s Creed. Now Beth with Fallout and ES. Let’s hope R* don’t destroy the next GTA.
Starfield certainly made me want to play skyrim again. Ill say that
You’re exactly right! Immersion is missing in Starfield. I don’t care about the story because they didn’t care. Thanks
For me Skyrim was the beginning of the end for Bethesda. If you take a close look at the writing before and after Skyrim, its like it was written by completely different people. They took consequences out of everything, didn't double check their work or even their lore. There were contradictions in the game's lore itself. It was a letdown. Add to the fact that the cities were literally smaller than the ones in the prior game and it was clear they didn't know what to do to keep improving. Skyrim had the advantage of cleaner graphics and a major jump in tech to work with from 2006 to 2012 but aside from that the contribution of bethesda itself was slowly being lost. People really saw it in fallout 4 and fallout 76 but still refused to accept what was happening. Now with Starfield it's just clear. Bethesda is a shell of its former self and isn't really worth the time anymore. There are better games and better companies. Instead of dedicating all these hours to mod a game without any love put into it, the modding community should instead help out games who deserve it.
Yup! Hated being the archmage of the mages guild but the only magical ability was first level fire ball and healing spell lol
Here's the other thing right. This is supposed to be the first game in a new IP. How much money does it take to make a game not mediocre?
That’s the question Triple A companies have been trying to answer by throwing more money at it 😂 wild
IDK Bungie has a perfectly optimized game across all platforms (Destiny 2). Runs so well in fact, Google Stadia ran at native 4K60fps for D2. 😂 CoD still vomits out a 4K60fps Console & 4K 120fps+ for PC "game" every year.
Apex Legends runs over 220fps on PC but less than 60fps on Console.
Control, Chorus, Psychonaut 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Elden Ring, God of War, Hellblade are all still great running games.
But why is it that Jedi Survivor, Plagues Tale Requiem, High on Life, Redfall, Starfield, Wo Long, Ghostwire Tokyo running sub 4K, sub 30fps in 2023? Hmm?
GTAV from 2013 looks better than half the titles released the past 4yrs AND never crashed. 😂
Game Devs can pound sand.
New IP DEMANDED a new graphics engine. Not the now 20-year old one they used.... it's a Fallout reskin.
@@nighthawkviper6791 a good game is more than a game that runs well
Evidently more than Bethesda is willing to spend. Just adopt UE5 already, creation engine1/2 is utter trash.
Yeah this game has really crystallized for me the fact that having such a strong modding community is both a blessing and a curse. The blessing is obvious. Lots of mods means at least some of them will be amazing and really add a whole new dimension to the game. But the curse is that it's becoming more and more clear with each new release that Bethesda themselves are using that community as a crutch and as a source of unpaid labor to finish their game for them so that they don't have to bother. Almost everything in this game feels like it's close to being good but not there yet. Everything gives the feeling "well, I'm sure mods can finish this."
Missing graphics settings, poor optimization, boring exploration, terrible melee combat, terrible enemy AI, most of the enemies being the same thing over and over again, even habitable worlds feeling like they're all mostly the same, the tedious main quest that's just a series of fetch quests, the locations you go to in said fetch quests being just a single room with the exact same "puzzle" where you literally jump through hoops every time instead of being found at the end of explorable dungeons. All of this is stuff that is BETHESDA'S job to finish and put in the game. This kind of shit should not be delegated to modders. The fact that all of this and more are in the "well, modders can fix that" category is fucked up. Bethesda clearly expects the fans to do thousands of hours of cumulative labor for free to fix their game because they weren't willing to spend the resources and time to do it themselves. Lazy and despicable especially considering the large price tag for the game.
They also have to release a bunch of dlc with more building options and missing features so they can charge people even more to complete their game.
Nah, its just the customer get weak minded and accepted even getting scammed. Gamers getting ccked, and still enjoying the game just like adam22 wife.
Why play one of their games when u have bioware,ubisoft,Bioware, etc for open worlds they release outdated games fallout 4 sucked and this sucks and it takes them over a decade between releases when there's a new assassins creed every couple of years like wtf do they even do 😆 skyrim was their last good game they'll ever make
Bioware,unisoft,rockstar*
Classic Bethesda, to think this POS would be any different is incredibly naive. How many times getting duped by the hype does it take for it to hardwire itself in ones brain that Bethesda is an antiquated dev. My bet is ES6 will suck as well.
Thank you!! Role playing to me, is not checking marks, buying perks... that is the smallest 'part' of the character I am playing. It is how you interact with the world and how your interactions are reflected back in the world and with positive or negative consequences.
Soooooo true, this is something a lot of triple A top dogs don’t care about i guess.
The funny thing is Bethesda fans will argue Bethesda games are the be-all and end-all of RPGs because there are so many objects that you can pick up and move, which imo just makes them sandboxes
If I may ask, what exactly do you mean by this?
The “perk system doesn’t feel like an rpg/ shouldn’t matter” was a point in the video that I didn’t really understand personally.
For instance, perks that increase gun damage help you specialize your character into a gunslinger, perks for melee and armor can turn you into a berserker, etc.
There are many different viable playstyles, so I’m not really sure what the criticism is.
@@wyattbailey7620 I mean in regards to a small amount of the role playing I crave to experience. There are always going to be limitations in the amount of personal customization you can do with a character's stats.
So in addition, and in my opinion even more important than doing x more damge with a weapon type, or have a +2 to a dialog check. The game goes above and beyond to craft an amazing world- full of interesting npcs, quests that evolve and change with my player input, atmosphere and art mixed with a little passion. A gripping narrative, that changes my environment along with how the world acts according to the choices I've made.
That feeling when a fighting game like Street Figther 6 has a waaaay better character creator than an RPG like Starfield.
But Starfield has pronouns.....betcha don't see THAT shit in Street Fighter!
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Pls don't be like "the f****g pronouns!" guy
You are not alone with your non-existent hope for TES 6. I've been feeling this way for a while, but I didn't say it on TH-cam.
I just wonder what they will do first after TES 6. Fallout 5 or Starfield 2. Knowing these idiots it will be Starfield 2 and with their development times Fallout 5 is probably not expected by 2045. That's how you lose your fans. First make crappy games and then have to wait another 30 years.
So to make it short ... You are not alone with your point of view about Bethesda. I'm done and over with them.
i tried to be on their side, ask anyone who knows me, i’ve been in their corner but i can’t defend this
TH has said in multiple interviews that Fallout 5 would follow TES6.
@@Kilo80Kilo Yes, it's been said of course, but TH can say what he wants, in the end it's not him and not PH who decides, but Mikrosoft, who own everything and can do what they want with their IPs and companies and if they like Starfield's numbers, it may well end up being Starfield 2 before anything else.
In the same way, Mikrosoft may decide that Obsidian will work on the Fallout IP in the future. Which I personally would actually like.
When Bethesda was still independent or part of Zenimax, they had private funding and complete creative freedom. Since Mikrosoft is now in charge, none of that is assured anymore.
Mikrosoft had already decided to release Starfield a year later. Officially to polish it up. Of course, it is possible that this is true. But it can also be that Mikrosoft demanded massive changes in the story and the characters to make the game woke ... um ... I mean, to make it suitable for a modern clientele. We won't know for sure, but it can't hurt to think about it.
I felt this game is overhyped. I was expecting Skyrim in space but this game is vastly empty. Fallout and Elder Scroll does more with their smaller maps. "Exploring" is boring. I put quotes because each planet/moon is just a box with point of interest where you get loot and grind. Enemy AI are so bad that when get to finally see some action it is boring. Make absolute no sense not to put vehicles. On a good note, this game is way more polished than most Bethesda game.
Eh, I think definitely more polished than the last two major releases, but people act like Oblvivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim were broken upon release. I spend thousands of hours on those games on my 360 and don't really recall any major bugs, sure, they were janky (so is Starfield still) but not broken.
Big problems at Bethesda.
Not really, because the game is selling quite well. So it is a success to them. Expect ES6 to be a disappointment as well.
3000+ hours in Skyrim and I just learned you can destroy those wooden barriers 😂
I feel bad that the modders have to fix everything, while the developers take peoples' money with a crappy product...
You can't polish a turd.
Pirate Starfield and donate to modders. Issue fixed. But honestly, Starfield just isn't worth staying on my SSD at all. Maybe in 2033 when the "10th anniversary edition" comes out costing 10 bucks, and insane total overhaul mods come out for it, I'll buy it.
Modders have no lives. Don't pity the martyr...to a freggin video game of all things.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 Then what do you consider having a life to be?
Why don't they have lives?
The vast majority do it as a hobby, and modding is as legitimate of a hobby as any other, say painting, hiking or fishing.
And if they truly don't have a life then they deserve our pity, for what is more pitiful than a man without a life?
You just described exactly how I feel about Starfield. Spot on man. This game is a total letdown.
yeaaaah Bethesda put the final nail in their coffin for me personally
I do not WANT to play this game
yes, especially characters are looking even (terribly) worse than modded fo4 and skyrim se... this game looks like abandoned and unsinspired - like a bad dream in 2023
My thoughts exactly. While I enjoy the game for what it's worth, it's just an ok game. It doesn't feel like a huge leap from Skyrim. It's not the the space epic I expected it to be. It's just a spaced themed Bethesda game. Didn't follow the hype but I still expected more.
Yup. 6.5/10 I'd say. I'm enjoying parts of it. But.... too many issues. It feels like a game from 10 years ago. They've made NO progress since Fallout 3 essentially. ZERO. It's absurd.
fr i don’t understand how that’s possible but ok
" It's just a spaced themed Bethesda game" That's exactly what I expected it to be. These are the games bethesda makes for that reason it's one of the few game devs I don't really have to wonder what I am going to get when I buy.
Yeah lets have gun battles and build settlements in space now..thats basically it. Sounds like fun!
Skyrim had great gameplay vs the previous titles. Without a jump in gameplay mechanics it’s just the graphics holding it up. 6.5/10 is a fair rating.
"broughten" isn't a word in English. btw, you nailed it. everything you say is exactly the way I felt. just finished the main story of Starfield. A few hours in, i found myself setting the difficulty to 'very easy' just to get it over with. This game is about as much fun as standing in line at Disney Land, you just want it to be over, or for something to happen.
I stopped being excited for TESVI the moment I found out that it was still in pre production 5 years after that initial teaser trailer. That's also the point i lost any and all hype around Starfield.
yikes, so this is just the new meta?
I'm currently at 80 hours and I can say I've never tried harder in my life to enjoy a game but it is so terribly boring that I have to take breaks from it, it feels like work honestly.
@@Thanatos3_4 It is a huge chore.. im trying too but i cant play more than 1 hour in a row... usually just 15 minutes.. the thing is so bland...and so many people saying it is the best game ever.. really?.. it is like living in a pararel world....And well, TES 6 being in pre production might be a good thing.. might mean they are upgrading their tech ... or perhaps just watching how starfield works to see if they can repeat their "turd selling" operation once again.
Guaranteed the only reason they released that splash screen was because they saw what happened when Blizzard announced a game no one wanted (Immortal) without mentioning the one they did (Diablo 4). Bethesda was about to do the same thing so they had to have some little minor bone to toss the fans so they worked up a last minute TESVI splash screen. It was way too early to be announced.
@Thanatos3_4 Same point I'm at. Ngl the first 60 hours was fun as hell but then I realized there was nothing else for me to do besides fetch quest after quick kill quest after fetch quest etc. There is absolutely NO exploration in a game literally centered around exploration, it's just sad. I'm tired of playing bethesda games that all look, feel, and play the exact same.
When I heard Snake-oil salesman Todd Howard mention in an interview the other week that they're (of course, what a surprise) sticking with the gamebyro/creation engine for Elder Scrolls 6 I knew enough is enough. I didn't pre-order this game because I'm sick of their lack of innovation and playing games that feel like they're 10 years old at launch.
By the time ES6 comes out, God knows how much further behind the times it will be compared to other open world RPGs.
Right, ES will be turned into another baseless canvass that feels like a simulation, i miss being so immersed that the only thing i can think about is getting back into the world
This true af
Behind the times? I would appreciate if Starfield was also "behind the times" if that meant it would be more like Skyrim, Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
Behind the times? F*ck the times, we've got to go back.
So much potential. So little care.
Starfield is the game our parents looked at while we're playing and said "dont you have better things to do than play video games like children?" Its the most gamey game Ive played recently. It constantly reminds you that you shouldnt immerse yourself, or try to immerse yourself, it constantly reminds how silly and casual of a game it is with its nonsense dialogue, hilarious animation and story writing. Its not even an RPG it claims to be. Its a looter shooter with base building.
That's actually a good description. It's so gamey you feel immature even trying to get immersed. Willing to bet there's gonna be barely any channels in the next year willing to do lore videos on Starfield.
The biggest mistake I made with Starfield was buying into the whole "it gets better after X hours". I kept playing, I got all the way to Neon, the city the fanboys were raving about. How to describe Neon? Basically a PG-13 clone of Night City from Cyberpunk. The seediest place in all the galaxy, yet no junkies shooting up in the alleys, no strip clubs, no XXX stores, no psycho gangs, no hookers, no swearing and everyone dressed as conservative as humanely possible. One of the worst acts of crime you witness? A local graffiti artist sprayed some graffiti on a robot. JFC... If Disney Land had a Cyberpunk district, it would be this.
i hate that aspect, the real world is gritty, it’s filled with danger, and thats JUST on Earth, i didn’t feel that constant adrenaline that traveling the stars would deliver, i just felt like a space garbage man.
I loved the game from the start. I disagree with everyone saying people should shoulder through "until it gets good." If you aren't at least having a good time pretty quickly, just play something else. There are other games that will hit a better cord with you. For me it's the best single player game I've ever played, but I can definitely understand and acknowledge the criticisms of it. I love how interactable every object is in the world, and when I played Cyberpunk I feel restricted in what I can do compared to Bethesda games. There isn't a ton of different factions you can join and the experience while open world felt much more linear to me with less things to do. I also disagree that Neon is a clone of Cyberpunk. Both Neon and Night City are clones of Blade Runner.
@@huttie2342 Cyberpunk is definitely more linear, I wouldn't even class it as an RPG, more like an action shooter with RPG elements. But Cyberpunk managed to present a much more realistic and by default, more immersive world. Night City feels like a real living breathing city and reflects all the glitz, sleaze, inequality, crime and violence of many major cities in our own time. The characters that you meet there feel like real people, products of their environment, not simply NPCs reading dialogue to get you to the next stage of the game.
I get that Starfield has some interesting elements, like the space ship customization and some of the low G fights were fun but the writing and the world building are absolutely terrible and even later into the game the fetch quest missions are so lazy and tedious they feel like Bethesda is making a parody of themselves. Try out the quest line for Ryujin industries. "fly to other star system, put a folder in a chest, come back". "go to another system, walk ten minutes across the map to get a keycard from a lady, then come back".....come one.
Lmao. Where are the hookers and strippers in ANY bethesda game... Like if Skyrim was "real" there would absolutely be brothels.
@huttie2342 cyberpunk and night city were created the same year bladerunner dropped. Night city is less bladerunner to me its far too nice lolol. Glad you enjoyed starfield though brother
the skills system could be much better if ranking up the skill was only done by completing the challenge. Ranking up a skill in this game is too much investment, you've got to invest time to do the challenge and invest a point that took forever to gain because leveling up your character takes forever in Starfield.
yup, a classic case of run time padding that i can’t stand , especially with lock picking. I can’t tell you how many items i had to leave behind because the lock was too “high class”
Same here, either use points or make us do challenges...not both. It's tiring. Also the scanning; annoying that you cant access some interactions if youre on scanner.
@@confessioncritic After 100 hours and getting every achievement I have one more achievement. level 100. But im at 54. I do not want to continue playing.
I went from lvl 45 to 125 in 3 days... Its not that hard....
I was really surprised to find out that the character creation build had less variability than skyrim It made me really shocked and I had a foreboding that turned out to be true. I had such high hopes for this game, even switched to xbox. lol I had more fun on my ps4 with skyrim, a lot more.
I lose any hope for a good game from bethesda. Really.
I think your being over dramatic because people are enjoying this game and other last fallout games. The negative people just have a bigger voice but actually look at the numbers
I’ll always love Skyrim, Oblivion and a few of the Fallouts. But, Bethesda and Todd Howard are full of Snake oil! LoL! I’m happy I didn’t waste my money on Fallout 76 and Starfield!
The amount of gaslighting people trying to convince you that they love starfield is astronomical
It's not gaslighting. The game is pretty damn good.
I agree with the "Just ok" label, not that it's bad, but it does feel incomplete, unoptimized. A perfect example, and this is a minor nitpick but an indicator of the larger issue. the menu, the flavor animations take too long (and that time adds up after a while), the spacing and organization of the UI is clearly for the look not the function. And the UI mods I've seen videos of, basically not only fixes it, but the choice of font for most of them, I'm pretty sure is what NASA uses, which helps sell the whole "NASA-punk" style they were going for in the first place. in those mods you can organize by mass (which i found the lack of in the vanilla game surprising, since mass is supposed to be a huge consideration.), value, value per unit of mass, and so on. you can turn your inventory into a frickin spreadsheet if you want to. Which in any other game would be cumbersome, BUT since this is "NASA-punk" it actually fits and makes sense. Like I said, this is a just a small, tiny tiny thing that I'm nitpicking on. But the lack of cleanliness and optimization of even the UX (user Experience) is an indicator of the larger issue.
Is it me or are all those who hate the game primarily hoteps who bought a ps4 and couldn't afford a pc?
@@ummerfarooq5383dude even bethesda's own recommended specs run the game at less than even 50 fps on mediocre settings, most people are getting 30-60 the game is trash even on pc but it's alright dude you're allowed to like shitty games, some people still play pubg, I enjoy the division 2, we're all deeply flawed
@@ummerfarooq5383 Yeah everybody who dislikes the game is just an angry Playstation fan. All arguments for why this game are instantly defeated.
I'm not sure if mods will help Starfield, because the problems are so fundamental. It's a space game with bad space combat and really no space exploration whatsoever. The shipbuilder is really cool, but you don;t really need a ship.
this is a possibility, similar to Cyberpunk that was beyond saving
Folks should really stop hating on CP77, the game is completely different now, it isn't the game that was launched.
Also different from Starfield that players were already dropiing the game, this didn't fully happened with CP77, that even have a revival some time ago due to Edgerunners anime.
Another point to be made here is folks expecting that CP77 was a GTA type of game when in reality it is a futuristic Wicher, so when i see folks complaining about CP77 this days i can only assume two things, one is that the person was really piss of for the game be buggy at launched without realizing that the game is mostly fixed now, or two, the person was one of the folks expecting a futuristic GTA, not a futuristic Witcher...
Wich one are you?
Most bethesda enthusiasts don't care. They just want content for the sake of content, and modders will give them that.
No one stopped to consider if people would actually WANT to mod this game. Sure, some people will, but that doesn’t mean the most talented modders will want to. I find that modders only mod games that are fun to begin with, they don’t take shit games and fix them. Look at cyberpunk, all the mods are either balance changes or butt enhancement, there aren’t any game changing mods because modders don’t want to waste their time on shitty games.
@@efxnews4776cyberpunk is still shit. Ooohhh wooow they finally caught up with the technology from gta 3 in their new update, big whoop, it’s still a linear game with no player freedom. It’s not a bad game but it is a bad RPG.
Even with the game update, they still didn’t add an FOV slider. They’re a dam joke.
I didnt buy it because i knew the mod community was going to need 100x passes. Ill buy it on a deep discount(sub 30 buck), when i can get a complete experience from the mods. Why pay bethesda full price for a game im going to have to mod anyways?
fair point
Even mods cant fix all these terrible npcs and bad writing and empty worlds.
Game pass: exists
Also what modern game doesn't have a gamma/brightness adjustment slider?
The perk system doesn't feel rewarding because you're handicapped and prevented from accessing the content you paid for, and made to earn access to your own skills rather than getting an exciting boost to the base gameplay without both you and the gameplay being handicapped to the ground first.
The skill tree in this game is just a roadblock. It stops you the player from using your actual talent at shooting, lock picking, space flight, etc. So when you unlock a perk it just basically rewards you by a) letting you use your actual gaming abilities that predate the game itself and b) giving you marginal access to the content they promised would be there and hyped to crazy degrees.... I've always hated skill gated lock picks in fallout, what's the harm in letting me try? It ruins "their vision" for the game? So what, the current system is not fun, and rather pointlessly so given the fact that locks already vary in difficulty, which is itself already a skill gate...they are double skill gated just to add 5 more perks to unlock (granting access to your own skills and unlocking more access to the minigame).
It's kind of not a straight up reward so much as it is the removal of something intrusive. Getting out of jail is only a great feeling because jail sucks. Getting your skill points in starfield is only fun because the gameplay before that kind of sucks (if it even lets you try).
Like for another example, your guns probably should just be at least ten to twenty percent stronger, they make guns weak specifically to handicap your actual skill and make you earn the power.... Guns don't work like that, a gunshot wound to the chest is a gsw to the chest no matter how small or shakey the shooter was...They should make you earn accuracy instead of lethality, would solve the problem all together for guns. Current system makes no sense in terms of either fun or how shooting skill and damage actually works, it only serves to slow the pace of combat with bullet sponge enemies.... Which is fun against mirelurks and deathclaws.... Less so against humans and smaller threats
Keep in mind that the lore has you as an entry-level miner. So a miner isn't going to be an ace starship pilot or a master cyberhacker. Naturally, through playing and leveling up, your skills improve. But yeah, it can be irritating to know that your stats are being handicapped early on and some starships can't be used right away.
@@nimarus3118 I'm not saying I have all the answers, but nothing in real life is stopping me from trying to pick a lock or drive a vehicle out of my league and either failing or getting lucky.
In Skyrim you could in fact pick master locks at low level if you had the lockpicks, patience, skills, and or luck to do so...which was in my opinion actually fun. Rdr2 and botw don't stop you from trying to tame a horse you aren't high enough level for....they let you try do or damned.
I hate the skill gated system, it's the epitome of not giving the player freedom and agency over their character. They could easily make it so you only get a certain number of attempts before breaking the lock to add to the difficulty and make lockpicking perks attractive as a matter of fun instead of necessity to even try to pick locks. That gate is only there to hinder the player fun, not to add realism.
The problem for me isn't starting out weak and needing to progress; it's that the game is level and skill gated to the point of not being fun because of the feeling of being constrained in too many instances at once... You're not allowed to do things is different than you can't do them because you're unskilled. This game feels much closer to you're not allowed to because rules rather than that you can't because skill.... because Bethesda envisioned you as some lowly miner that can't even attempt to do something they haven't done before like picking a lock or a pocket without spending a skill point on that thing first. Not realistic at all, just hindering.
Sorry to say but if Starfield’s skill tree is a roadblock then Fallout 4 and Skyrim did it much worse. Skyrim required you to essentially grind said skill to level up and Fallout 4 has insane level gaps between levels of many skills. In Starfield, as long as you do a simple challenge you could essentially get rank 4 and/ or powerful skills much much earlier.
Also bro is complaining about the lock picking, as if you expect the game to just hand you the content. It’s an RPG for a reason, you gotta work for it. In my opinion that’s pretty cool.
@@maxmikester8185 you got some excellent reading comprehension if that's all you took from my comment.... I swear it's like you can't use an example of one complaint without people thinking that's THE complaint.
Like do you know the difference between giving someone a gift so that they are better off than they were, and stealing something from them so they have something to work towards? The skill tree in this game feels like the latter.
You're right that fallout 4 did have a very similar system, but with level gating in certain skills instead of the challenge. Not that I'm saying the skill tree was better in fo4 (because it isn't) but I didn't need 4 ranks in a skill to have fun in fallout 4. I agree though, that even in fallout the skill tree is lackluster and boring, for many of the same reasons I find the skill tree in sf lackluster and boring.
I don't see what your criticism of Skyrim's skill tree even amounts to... But I could try to pick locks, pick pockets, sneak around, and use different types of armor without spending any prerequisite skill points....to me that is ideal. Not that I'm saying the skill tree or progression were perfect; but it offered a boost to fun game play rather than crippling me completely and making me earn access to basic core activities.. moreover, it offers more freedom to experiment with different systems of the game if you don't have to spend a skill point just to access the introductory level of that system (I sure love regretting where I spent a skill point five levels later).
You shouldn't have to grind to get to the fun part of a game; the grind should be part of the fun.... Their past games accomplished this, this one does not.
@@marcm2277 I mean Skyrim’s skill tree WAS the grind is my argument. Aka you wanna get better at one handed? Beat up people for it. My point is that Starfield’s skill system combines both Skyrim and fallout 4 in a way that allows creative freedom in character building. To debunk your entire point, you could easily max out Ballistics and Pistols in the first 8 levels if one so desired, where fallout 4 could never achieve this. On that note what exactly is the skill tree ‘stealing’ from you, the inability to pick any lock without leveling up to do so? That’s literally part of EVERY Bethesda game because it’s an RPG. The whole point is to level up and gain skills to work towards something that you want to do. Your argument is like complaining because you can’t open the master level locks at the beginning of the game because you are meant to come back to it later. I fail to see your arguments when all the previous games did the EXACT SAME THING. In Skyrim’s case yes you could try most everything, but without proper skill points you will fail more often than not at later points.
Allow me to debunk your argument about weapons while I’m at it. Of course guns don’t work like that in real life but guess what, it’s an RPG. If every gun did lethal amounts of damage in a couple shots, you would take away the entire challenge of the game, and it’s also why tank/bullet sponge enemies exist as it is. The point of RPGs is that you have to grind in order to progress. To me a lot of your arguments just defeats the purpose of what an RPG is and not just Bethesda ones. Please think before you insult me with sarcasm.
The game was fine. But for a Bethesda title, I was extremely disappointed. I couldn't wait for it to be over. I am now playing thought the Mass Effect Trilogy and holy shit, these are some really good space RPG games. Amazing attention to detail with decision making. And these games are 10-15 years old!
And choices in Mass Effect games matters too.
Starfield is a fantastic game if you don't compare it to any RPG, Sci-fi shooter, or open world game in the last 15 years.
Hate that trilogy game. They changed the game too much. Luckily I still have the original mass effect games on my ps3.
>become more skilled with guns
>bullets now hurt people more
ok todd
I got it refunded. It was that bad…
Spot on with the perk system. I don't feel like my perk choices change how I approach the game. I feel like the perks make everything less of a pain of the ass. A perk to make all this junk in my cargo hold useful. A perk to be able to open locks. A perk to be able to fly a better ship. A perk to be able to make basic weapon mods. A perk to be able to make more than a microwave dinner. Just uuuuuggggnhhh!
Have you played NMS recently? Not sure "unplayable" is a good description for it.
Agreed. The reviews imo is talking out of his arse a lot here.
I pre-ordered Fallout 4 and the season pass, worst decision I ever made, watched as fallout 76 came out, and saw that disaster, bought it when it was on sale in the vain hopes that I might be able to port the assets to fallout 4 in a mod, couldn't do it, then I saw the first trailer that had any gameplay, saw them talk about the "skills", paused the video, spent a good 10 minutes with my face in both of my hands, went back frame by frame, and all I could think was "these aren't skills.... these are 4 level perks with grindy little requirements...." I decided that I wouldn't buy another bethesda game until I see actual skills in someones let's play of the game after the release date.
Unfortunately, as great as the modern community is, it doesn’t help us on Xbox. I could not finish this game. I got about 10 hours and 15 hours in and it felt like the worst chore I had to do. If I had to open that inventory management one more time to get rid of this shit so my weight was OK… A big pass
It doesn’t make sense to have so much tied to perks. Stuff like scanning further could be tied to a side quest where you get a unique piece of equipment or something like that.
It makes sense when you understand the entire philosophy around the perk system (and most other systems in the game) is to keep you logged into gamepass for as many hours as possible by wasting your time with as much busywork as possible. Same reason there are no maps.
Game made by Bathesda... that's a diagnosis, that's a verdict, that's a review. Every game they make are OK. That's it.
Unfortunately the new truth
Even their very best games are kind of meh, whe ncompared to other RPGs. I think SKyrim was the only time, where they were really ahead of the curve, but even that game has pretty mediocre voice acting and boring combat
The ending killed my motivation to keep playing. The canon ending makes the whole game pointless
a-fucking-men. I was pissed by the end.
@@michaelcross3464 I actually love the game and setting and everything. But that ending.
Yeah. I was hoping for a starlord title with a harem. Jeez.
Even though I hate how F4 removed skill system I have to admit that atleast it's perk system is alright, in comparison to Starfield.
F4 had skme cool perk ideas with some skill turned into perks.
Starfield feels like nearly all perks are just skills, which makes it even more infuriating since why not have skill system back at this point?
I think they realised they didn't have much of a game and needed to pad things out. The whole game seems to be designed around that endeavour because Todd said they expect us to be playing it for years like Skyrim.
YOU COULD NOT BE MORE RIGHT! SO GLAD WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DONT TRY TO FLUFF GAMES JUST B/C THEY ARE NEW. ALSO B/C THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND XBOX. STARFIELD LOOKS TERRIBLE.
‘’Looks terrible.’’ You are the problem. Form your own opinion for once. Stop relying on people on the internet that purposely make the game look bad for their videos to do it for you.
Dude I dont want to form my own opinion. I dont even want to waste my time on this game. I see how bland and boring this game looks. Want me to go on and tell you everything that Asmongold, IGN, etc have said about the game!?! THEY ARENT WRONG. The game is mediocre at best. Nothing special. Nothing innovative. It does look terrible. When I say terrible I dont just mean the graphics. I mean the whole game. @@jaggwithswagg8304
Ill stick to Tears of the Kingdom and Baldurs Gate 3. GAMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUN and are worth my time.@@jaggwithswagg8304
For context, as I write this, I have starfield alt tabbed in the background.
I came to youtube after posting this on Facebook and found your video. Figured id share my status here too.
"This is really weird and I dunno how to process this thought so im just going to put it up here.
I don't think I like Starfield. It's playable. Far more enjoyable while high. The exploration is all eye candy, there is very little reward that comes from it.
So, im pretty take it or leave it.
But I get really sad because my housemate was SUPER EXCITED for this game, and she also didnt like it. Hasn't played it since day one when she installed it (and she got it early too).
I seem to be taking her disappointment harder than she is. I feel compelled to keep playing the game because I need it to mean something after all that build up.
And try as I might, I can't really feel anything for this game. And then I feel really sad.
What is wrong with me?"
After watching this though, I think I feel a little better about putting it down and just letting it be shit.
I feel staggeringly similar. i just really thought this one was different, i’ve been going through this same rinse and repeat since Fallout 4 and i’m tired. so tired….
Thanks for watching❤️
What I've gathered is that this game really is for people who want just the illusion of depth. I've seen a lot of people worshipping starfield and turn their nose at something like baldurs gate 3s depth and call it boring. They don't actually want indepth stories and conversations with npcs. They want to approach an NPC that need to persuade and have dialouge that is literally "I'm going to persuade you now" and the NPC says "ha, we will see" and then you select different dialogue options to get them to change their mind and then they go "oh, you are right my mind is now changed" it literally couldn't be more surface level, transactional mechanics.
@@fullmetalb5241 Todd maxed his Illusion skill and made it 100 Legendary.
The Bethesdrones at this point will eat up anything he decides to handfeed them.
After watching this video, I installed No Mans Sky and played that for about an hour and had more fun in that hour than I did the 14 hours of my play through.
I kept thinking as I was playing "Yeah this is nice, but No Mans Sky did it better". Should have been listening to myself.
I lost 3 days and 8 hrs of progress because of a bug that causes your ship to disappear, in every save.😩
that suuuuuucks
Soooo there is no autosave?? I depended on that on FO4
I don’t think they should release TES6 anymore either. Every step they take forward ruins another piece of their legacy and it seems their hellbent on NOT learning from their experiences. I would prefer if Bethesda just abandoned the project and handed whatever was finished over to the Modders so THEY could make a game we can all be proud to play
if that happens we would be thoroughly surprised i’m sure. Bethesda’s projects nowadays lack passion, most likely due to expansion of the company in general
@@confessioncritic that’s exactly why they need to hand everything off to the modders and members of the community that DO have that passion. They clearly have a better idea of what the people want anyway
@@Lonelyweirdo96ironically that's how fallout died, so that wouldn't be a great idea imho. Fallout was up for sale and Bethesda who were fans of it took it and arguably got it all wrong. Fallout 3 is fun, but it lacks a lot of what made the first 2 so good, and as times gone on, the flanderization and simplification of their franchises has slowly been killing them imho. There's an alternate reality where the original creators won that buyout which makes me sad.
Everyone's so focused on Starfield but your Zelda take was wild 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 GLAD YOU SAW IT…i mean it
Zelda wasn't good either, the only games I play are rpgs, real rpgs, RuneScape, Wow, morrowind, star wars Kotor 1 and 2, elden ring, final fantasy 7,8,9, octapath traveler 1 &2. Zelda is buns, I gave it to my 9 year old nephew for christmas, booooooring
The empty planets definitely seem intentional, the intention being as you stated that modders will fill the blank canvas with content.
It's clever, if not despicable, get your own customers to work for you! Wow.
Yeah! i think i said it before but i’ll hand it to Bethesda, they are the best at making the ‘illusion’ of depth in a game
@@confessioncritic And I saw through that the first time they said the game will have over 78945 planets. Naturally I thought, oh.. procedural generation then. Great! BGS is a joke
To be clear: not just "get your own customers to work for you", get your own customers to work for you unpaid. Bethesda are using their customer base as a pool of unpaid labor to finish their game for them. Gross.
It's not gonna happen like that though, imo. People act like modded skyrim is a bunch of original content, yes there is some of that, but it's not that much and it took many, many years for those mods to get made. 99% of mods are cosmetics.
Hmmm, I mean space is pretty empty in comparison to living creatures.
Baby eyes baby faces 😂 star field is like a dirty diaper it sticks 😂
I fear for what's going to be PASSED OFF AS Elder 6. I've also thought I'm not going to be alive when Fallout 5 releases but then again, Do I...wanna be?
Todd Howard said there are no plans yet for Fallout 5 and also said that TES6 will probably be his last elder Scrolls. Not sure if Todd will even be around for Fallout 5
So in other words I should just be playing y baldurs gate 3. That’s what I’m learning from this
…yeth
New Vegas was made by Obsidian, the same folks who made The Outer Worlds, it wasn't Bethesda.
publishers have a bigger hand in creation than most believe
Bethesda's bad writing would make that a baby hand in the production of new vegas
also on a sidenote, outerworlds barely had much new vegas developers on it
20% only @@confessioncritic
you cant even fly to other planets
ikr a letdown of a feature imo
Microsoft buying this crap could be one of the biggest mistakes they have ever made.
Microsoft don't care, they only care about money, not gamers or your enjoyment
also i want to suggest you try no man's sky 2023 its nothing like what is was back in 2016
All I hear is, "The modding community will fix the game..." I can't believe it's all come down to this lately. I hope some new super tech comes out for game dev... Maybe I'll get a PS5 at that point, but until then, I haven't wasted my money on anything released in the last like.. 3 years. Everything is stale and has lost its charm compared to older titles.
One of the major things i did not like about the game is how they downgraded the faction system even worse since Skyrim
1. No ranking system
2. Can’t be leader at the END of questline
Ikr. I wanted to be a Starlord like from the Guardians of the Galaxy guy.
@@chuckh4077I would not mind being head of at least one faction. Constelation maybe 🤷♂️
30fps on "the most powerfull console in the world". That's all what I needed to hear.
Great video btw! Loved the intro!
New sub earned easily :D
Thank you for watching, i’m Glad you enjoyed!
Yeah, the character creation menu is nothing but un-fixable soy face. Maybe the developers modeled the faces after themselves.
😂😂😂
Well….bye.
“Fine” is way too generous, “mediocre” is more accurate.
I refer to Starfield as the "Minimal Contractual Obligation" before everyone headed for the door.
Other than your use of the non-word "broughten" and overstating the immersion in Skyrim, I completely agree. Starfield is immensely mediocre. Some reasonable technical improvements over previous Bethesda titles here and there... and a lot of uninspired blah. As you say, it's a good framework for modders, but Bethesda half-a$$ed this one where it counted.
LOL funnily enough I contemplated reshooting that part but found the non word funny
I think the game was made part time and the staff just went away on expensive holidays and to parties all the time
It's worse, the people who made the game put all they have into its development. This is the best that a post fallout 76 bethesda is capable of making.
And that's just sad, it's like watching your favorite sports team that's filled with your favorite athletes but those athletes are now at the end of thier careers and aren't capable of performing like they did in thier prime.
why shouldn't they? People still bought it, many youtubers still defend it, so why do it differently?
Bethesda should be ashamed of this, and the employees who were too afraid to tell Todd this game is boring, congrats you kept your job and became a shill, What happened to your passion? Why do you even have the job you have? The people that bought this game and are just coping because they spent $100 or more should also be ashamed for not having conviction to a higher standard for games. This is a disgrace. They smell the roses and sing praises for the colours, all the while cutting their hands on the thorns and not even flinching in pain.
Have you played Morrowind? The positive feeling you mentioned having in Skyrim is much stronger in Morrowind, imho.
Nice vid man
I just picked up Cyberpunk again after 3 years of putting it down, when it had its abysmal release, and that game is filled with immersion. The lore and overall feeling of the game is fantastic. Same feeling you get in Mass Effect (Trilogy), Witcher, Skyrim, Fallout, Fable, BG3, several others etc.
That game checks all the boxes in my opinion, at least for the most part. Starfield for anyone that’s above the age of 14 is a major let down. The game is literally meant for kids I feel.
I picked up CB last year, played one mission and stopped. Maybe I will restart it now with 2.0 out today, and put down Starfield till 2.0 is available.
@@thee_morpheus
Give it a shot dude, I started a week ago, and to be honest it’s one of the greatest experiences I’ve had so far in video games. Everything about it is immersive. It’s one of those games that make you think about life and that’s what I feel, what makes a game great
@@garywasseljrI'm in the same boat as the other guy. Maybe I'll start actually playing it this weekend.
The space asthma sim
LOL FR
All they had to do was make a NASA style version of No Man's Sky w/Ship Building & Skyrim. This game lacks everything modern expectations we come to see as standard in every other space game.
I noticed I was telling everyone just wait for mods it is gonna be so good after this or that mod gets made... I finally heard what I was saying and just realized what am I defending this game for? Is it so hard to ask beth to make a complete game and that mods or for addons and changing some things to your liking not fixing and completing an unfinished game. I agree the next tes will be bad, I assume it's going to be heavily monetized with skins and some premium thing that makes no sense. RIP beth you were so beautiful until you became lazy from your own hubris and got devoured by microsoft
Yup now they’re just another Triple A with a chip on their shoulder smh
Bethesda almost died before Morrowind. Morrowind saved them in 2002. In 2006 they were already started microtransactions and not so much later they started to kill video games and independent game developer companies. Within only 4 years they went from underdog to money hungry monster.
When was Bethesda beautiful? :(
I think TH-cam's Starfield Haters lied to me. Starfield isn't bad. These haters just suck at playing video games.
It's not as bad as these youtubers say. they're just boomers who get triggered by women in power.
I have to agree. I feel like it's witch-hunt for something unwarranted. They're just pretending to know what they are talking about.
Don't you know? They are entitled little boomers living in mom's basement and they know game development so well. In fact they can do better right? LOL
It's like this: I hate green apples but I will eat it and then talk trash about it. That pretty much sums it all up with these TH-camrs.
@@ForReals-dp4ws Oh yeah because they are such experts in digital art and software development.
I lost faith in Bethesda somewhere between Fallout 3 and Skyrim, I remember people calling Fallout 3 "Oblivion with guns".. I wish, Oblivion was the last Bethesda game I enjoyed and got immersed in, each successive release has just got less and less fun whilst the flaws and consistent fundamental design issues have just got more and more obvious and impossible to ignore. When Skyrim came out in 2011 the flaws and cynical design were immediately obvious and I've never been able to finish the game despite trying on an annual basis for the last decade. Maybe I'm just growing older. I'm never going to play Starfield because I know exactly how it will play out and have no enthusiasm whatsoever for any future TES or Fallout releases whilst they are at the mercy of Todd Howard.
Bethesda knew the mods will come and fix everything for free 😞
Like how many games have had lockpicking from bethesda. So many. And I never minded it. I HATE IT IN THIS GAME. Its so tedious. I called it a night when I came across another lockbox and just cant be bothered to pick the dang thing. Such a simple thing they managed to make unfun. Edit: and also why I can stand gamers and fanboys. If you dont like the lockpicking, they just say you're bad at it. I've broken 1 pick in 15 hours. I have up to expert skill and never had a problem. ITS JUST NOT FUN. ITS BORING AND TEDIOUS AND TIME CONSUMING AND NOT FUN. HAVE I MENTIONED ITS NOT FUN? THIS IS A GAME RIGHT? The point is to have fun? Nothing feels good. Flying doesn't feel good, outpost building doesnt feel good. OK, the gunplay does feel good. They ruined everything that made their RPGS good but got gunplay right......................... Of course I never minded what people called "bad" gunplay in the older titles.
Im annoyed because I want to like this game and see its potential but after 1 or 2 hours of gameplay each session I have to turn it off for a while. Thats a bad sign. I can play their other titles all day even average-at-best fallout 4.
The gunplay is only really good by Bethesda standards though. Like it doesn't hold a candle to the combat in most other recent RPGs (including the original Cyberpunk release) and definitely not to any actual shooter. Mass Effect 2's combat is 10x as good and that was over 12 years ago. i would argue that Fallout4 edges Starfield because it at least has VATS which adds some really amusing wrinkles to combat.
Thank you for this, you put everything I’ve been thinking into words. I finished TLOU2 and RDR2 right before buying Starfield which really made it feel just that much worse. Its astounding that they felt it was acceptable to release a game this ugly and boring in 2023. Games from 4+ years ago should not be running laps around games that came out a month ago. Its so bad I actually just downloaded Fallout New Vegas and I’m about to play that instead.
3:08 This is just disrespectful to No Man's Sky
As someone that actually loves the game here is my issues. “freezing, stutters, specific weapon glitches (models contorting on screen). Other then that compared to Obsidion Outer worlds I defenitally think this game has more going for it over Outerworlds… outerworlds sadly felt super shallow for something that felt super big … and comparing to writing from Skyrim’s stand point I feel is a much better improvement then it’s other previous title, however that won’t sustain some issues I have with the game. It’s not for everyone perosnally and to me that’s fine
I the f* did i got here ... and what are you eating to have balls THIS big? mad respect 🙏
The only thing. i’m eating lately is bad RPG’s 😂 thanks for watching
bro skyrim was not that great...oblivion was better for its time@@confessioncritic
@@Danny-Patts i can understand that but regardless you must agree Skyrim’s immersion and exploration are unmatched from many RPGS
Star flop star born dragon born star lies 😂 I tried telling everyone before early access that star field that the invisible walls were not tutorial missions and when you tell people it’s 7/10 they get man and start calling people fan boy well I promise you that’s karma you don’t bully people and call them name and expect good to come to you todd lie people cried 😂 😢 it’s over
"When it's ready"
i have no hope for ES6 ,i hope bethesda doesn't try to sell dlc for it
I beat it the other night after having played it for 76hrs and half of the game was just okay and the other half of the game was both frustrating and meh. I’d give it a 6. Maybe 5.5 depending. And for context Fallout 3 is one of my Top 5 favorite RPGs of all time. 😊
You don't realize it but you are apart of the problem in gaming. You sat there for 76 hours and didn't even really enjoy it. Just like the millions of gamers who fork out billions of dollars for games they hate playing
Awesome. Will play fallout 3 soon on xbox one S. Been playing fallout 4 only.
@@chuckh4077You will love Fallout New Vegas too
so, if 5 is average and this game is half 'just okay' and half outright bad, how does that equal a 6?
Conversation after conversation after conversation...fetch quest, fetch quest after fetch quest...Inventory management, inventory management, inventory management... "No one can hear you scream in space".
This is the soul loop for the game, i’m just sad some people are buying into it being amazing
After 76, even thought it was mostly made by the Austin team, and now this, it's pretty safe to say they've lost their touch. That main story is pathetic. Starfield does not surpass it's predacessors.
Starfield is an above average (If not average) game, which is all they had to meet to be honest. They make a decent game that's alright on it's own, release some dlc's to enhanced the game, and then modders prolong the game for a decade+.
Is it lazy? Absolutely, but what can you expect? Thier roster is a mix of decent and good quality games (Exclude FO76) that have only lastedas long as they have because of their mod support policy.
I would've rather it have been GOTY level, but it is what it is, I'll just have to wait a few years for it to reach thst level.
150+ hours in the game so far although I've had fun (that's why I'm still keeping it installed) but it makes me wonder if this is the 'GAME OF THE GENERATION ' they've been hyping for the past 3 years. In many aspects i don't even call it a great game.
It is the game of a generation… just not yours..
150 hours is definetly enough to get bored, i'm bored after 50... The story is actually terrible. Side quests are good but honestly the powers and how you obtain them is so damn boring... Skyrim is superior in every way
Pretty much how I feel about it. The fact this game was supposedly in development like 15 years and they haven't made any progress says a lot. Their dev team is the laziest in gaming bar none. Starfield plays exactly like fallout 4 but with a combat slide and boostpack. They haven't innovated or expanded upon any area and that's unacceptable for a triple A game. Bethesda and ubisoft are the absolute kings of overselling and underdelivering.
very true, at this point what they do is an art form in and of itself.
@confessioncritic Agreed. And I'm a pretty big bethesda fan they've always been a guilty pleasure for me if nothing else but this game just offers nothing new and actually offers less in some areas than their previous games. The people who are rating this 10/10 are 100% paid off.
The idea was presented in 2013, but I would guess it didn't get out of pre-production for 1 or 2 years from there. But, the invention of lore and the galaxy design might have delayed the actual development as well so game design may have not started until around 2016ish. So there were multiple things working against it to start.
correction not galaxy, the correct term you're looking for is star system. where we are in starfield is the Milkly way galaxy ....
We have reinvented the RPG. Now in previous games the dragon born would have to journey into ancient ruins, fighting off the undead that dwell within in order to learn the dragon shouts. Now as a Space... Chosen one you journey to a barren planet and fight off boredom as you enter a chamber thing and reenact Superman 64 - Todd Howard probably
- Hey Todd will there be any interesting loot in these chambers
- Yes most definitely there is many interesting things to find in the world of Starfield
I actually LIKE Starfield, but I get a lot of the people who don't like it. And I think I know why they don't. It has to do with what each person likes about Bethesda games.
I put an unhealthy amount of hours into Skyrim and all Fallout games. And now have 40+ hours on Starfield.
The key word here is, quite simple really, what people like about these games and that is: Exploration.
Here's how a mission goes in Skryim or Fallout: Get the mission, talk to someone, walk to the mission location, on the way find animals, robbers, secrets, buildings, other missions, activities, giants, powers, etc etc etc. Then get to the location, complete the mission either walk back (with some more of all of that in the way) or fast travel.
Here's how a mission goes in Starfield: Get the mission, talk to someone, FAST TRAVEL to the mission location, walk 2-5 minutes on an empty procedural generated planet with a couple of hostile aliens, get to the location and complete the mission. Fast travel back.
And that's the core of the issue, old Bethesda games create stories with exploration, in Starfield is just menus and fast travel.
There are amazing stories, amazing missions, amazing characters, and amazing cities, but all is interconnected by loading screens and menus, and that ruins it.
Starfield is a gold ingot thrown into an ocean of shit.
I'm sorry but you must be high or dilutional. I've played skyrim and fallout and replayed them several times but I think I will barley be able to finish starfield. Starfield is just dull, flat and mediocre with a lot of corners cut.
amazing missions? so far i've pretty muh only ran into fetch quests or go talk to someone and return. Amazing cities? are have we been to the same places or what? the capital of humanity is only like 4 shops, a embassy and a few blocked buildings.
I was hopeful for starfield but bethesta has followed the rest of the gaming industry and released a mediocre unpolished "we will fix it later" game
Try Witcher 3 if you love exploration
@@reahs4815 You probably haven't explored much. Mostly likely you just keep landing on random parts of worlds expecting them to suddenly generate whiterun or something.
All the handcrafted settlements are special and very well designed. Yes, they don't have much but that's just like every other game from Bethesda. Except for the removal of houses which would make no sense in this kind of game.
Also, you clearly haven't been paying much attention since you just called New Atlantis the capital of humanity, which it is not. But whatever.
Starfield has many problems and has a severe amount of mediocrity in a lot of it's features, but it deserves to be judged by what it is not by what it isn't.
@@edwardr9130 After several play through it doesn't really offer much for me. Amazing game. Don't know what it has to do with Starfield, but I guess that's how people on the internet work, huh?
The stories and characters are terrible dude lol.
While starting up Starfield for the first time I was in a perpetual state of revulsion, and shuddering "ughs" This went for about 6.7hrs before I uninstalled to clear space, I guess in that respect it's a "Space" game.
Maybe after the modders have had their way with this it will be worth the effort, but then I'd be supporting bad practices at Bethesda..
this is the conundrum i find myself facing all the time, but it is what it is, one this is for sure, careers have been made from certain Skyrim mods so it’s good to support them for that
you already bought it so you've already supported the company. jokes on you.
@@ian.swift.31614 I guess so, but I actually got as part of CPU upgrade. I was really looking forward to it tho, would have bought it, even the premium version cause I had that much faith in them this time haha.
oh yeah they still give free games with hardware purchases ? that's different then if it was a promotion @@isitoppositeday6944
I agree very strongly with things like the perk system. Its so uninspired man... already with the first trailer they showed, when i saw the '''+10/20/30% damage with rifle's'' perk or whatever i was facepalming. When i play the game on very hard difficulty and i spend 3 perk points like that that give me 30% more damage, thats like the same almos as just lowering thedifficulty from very hard to hard...
Even the difficulty sliders are just as boring as they always are. Just damage gain damage done percentages.... How about that on hard difficulty the A.I becomes more aggresive? And on very hard difficulty its even more aggresive, enemies attack more often and aim better, and more enemies spawn? I just pulled those things out of my ass and its already more interesting then what they did in seven years. Even a modder made a mod like this within one week after release that make A.I at least fekking AIM at you and shoot you. xD .... ONE WEEK..
Sorry bethesda but your devs are just lacking imagination and are sometimes a bit incompetent. Maybe you lack passion to i don't know what it is. Did you play your own game and have fun?
Starfield is GOTY, any true gamer can see this. People who think it’s “bad” have no taste at all.
The reason why we are disappointed is because we love Bethesda and wanted them to make a hit and a masterpiece that goes along with our collection of 9 or 10 out of ten games. Because my friend, in this Lifetime, you can't do everything, so put aside the thrash and focus on what is worth it. Bethesda failed. This game is average at best.
Exactly, people always think when i rant it’s because i hate a company or tittle but it’s actually the opposite, some of my greatest gaming memories are in the hands of Bethesda and that’s why i’m so disappointed.
You expected fucking BETHESDA, to make a masterpiece game? What are the other games in that collection of 9 or 10 out of ten games? Hunt down the Freeman?