I was a bit worried Marinette would go full mermaid with that power up, but I’m glad she didn’t. That suit is way more practical and love the scales. And the pink-purple highlights in her pigtails is so cute
It's Plagg's fault that Adrien didn't know about Master Fu until now. They were the ones who found the book, but Plagg had forgotten all about it. He should of had Adrien take it to Master Fu, much like Tikki did. Also the reason why they made the power ups into cheeses is likely because that is what Plagg eats all the time and what Adrien normally uses to recharge him. Plagg hates transforming, so the cheese would make him tolerate it a bit more.
I know by this time Zamber has already reacted to it, but... I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK TO SEE HER MEET THE BEST CHARACTER EVER!!!!! Our favorite blue-haired guitarrist is coming!!
Its perfectly okay if you don't like Chloe. She's done so much harm to everyone around her with her cruel nature and how she rarely takes responsibility for her actions. She is capable of change but she still doesn't warrant sympathy for all the harm she's done before and after this episode. In a way, your hatred for Chloe reminds me of my personal hatred for Bakugou so I can relate to what you're feeling with this.
Bakugo did however looked at his deeds, grew and soon, redeemed himself. Speaking of MHA, I would want to see cat noir vs tomura shigaraki (miraculous: tales of ladybug and cat noir vs my hero academia) in death battle.
@shacharlem4424 I'm wondering, do you know about mbti? it's very interesting to me that adrien/chat noir and tomura shigiraki are bothe infps. they're similar but different in a lot of ways too, but they definitely share personality traits
Love how Ivan and Mylene keep cuddling after Zombizou's defeated. After all, why should the loving couple stop being affectionate just because they're not being forced to anymore?
Injustice is the only thing that's get marinette angry enoght to get to the point to be akumatized Thats one little detail that I think is very cool AND very clever to the writers to do
Zombizou is a bit of a French pun. It combines the words "zombie" and "bisou" (sp), which means kiss. That's why people are zombified by being kissed instead.
Zambers lesson of love is very true. As a guy, I can confirm we are very dumb. Either that, or we don't want to ruin a friendship by assuming. SOOOOO tell that special someone you love em, don't hint at it. It'll work 2x as well.👍
the writers wanted to point out again that although chloe has her good moments, her nature remains unchanged, she is quick to revert back to her original self near the end or in the next episode after her moments of good have passed. Here chloe helped save the day, and apologized to her teacher but did not apologize to marinette for ruining her gift, she didnt apologize to the rest of her classmates after everything she said to them and after they risked their lives to save her and instead states everyone should thank her for helping save the day.
for me, it really looked like the writers were going to redeem chloe, but they quickly changed their minds in season 3. her development in season 2 was evident
@@N_Vwls the writers have stated chloe is not entirely evil, but she is not entirely good either, she has her good moments, however, her choices are still her own as she is still chloe, they are not ours to decide where to go.
@@user-zj2sq7ov8t I heard from another TH-cam comment that Austruc wasn’t that influential in the production of season 2. So when he came back he made Chloe’s character bad again, also I heard that Chloe is based off a childhood bully of his. Take all this with a grain of salt though 🧂
By my count Chloe has been responsible for 11 alumtizations, at least in the episodes you've seen. Of course Marinette's hands aren't exactly clean ether. Both of them had a hand in Horrificator and I think she has the second highest akuma count after Chloe.
@@TS-fe4jl There are also cases like Max, who she caused the akumatzation because she wanted to spend time with Adrien, or André because she was upset about Adrien not showing, although I might cut her some slack on the latter. And don't get me started on Lila. She might not do it as often as Chloé, but she does cross people.
After going through all episodes, Season 1-5, Marinette has caused 20 akumatizations. Also going through Chloe’s, it is less than Marinette’s. She needs to get her sh together girl
@@randomthings3607 Good to know. I only counted the episodes Zamber had posted so far, and naturally I don't think season 5 was out yet at the time. I hadn't updated my count in a while.
7:45 Just to say it again if you didn't know but miraculous actually boosts all physical abilities like agility and strength that's why Adrien could lift the car out of water.
yeah, keeping Adrien in the dark seemed pretty dumb considering the Ladybug and the Cat are halves, meant to be equal and balance each other, it just doesn't make sense that it would be an unbalanced dynamic between them Man, this episode made me hope Alix would have gotten through Chloe through the season, considerong how Chloe reacted to Alix, but seems it was too much to hope
What annoyed me about the "other miraculous users" is that they were revealed MONTHS in advance through promos. So yeah, don't look at promos for this series. Bigger spoilers than the KH3 promos.
18:53 THANK YOU!!! She is the very reason Marinette and Adrien’s jobs and social lives are occasionally tougher than normal!!! She is the BANE of everyone’s existence!!!! I don’t care if she apologized, she’s hurt more than just one person.
@@jaredtheastralartist2510 Because it’s Marinette’s pov and the story revolves around her. She never wants people to get akumatized, most of the it’s just a misunderstanding.
Honestly, people get mad and sad and have negative emotions all the time and really you shouldn’t blame Chloé for the akumatizations when Marinette has caused more. Sometime Chloé doesn’t do it intentionally and sometimes Marinette does. And with Chloé, at least there’s a reason for the way she is, and the writers constantly make her mean. But when Marinette does the same things she’s seen as good because that’s how the writers want their to look, which is really unfair. If Marinette purposely caused Lila’s, Max’s, that super Adrien fan’s, etc only because of his own unhealthy obsession with Adrien that she can’t control- which honestly is just creepiness- then you should give her as much blame as Chloé, who at least is aware of her actions, wants (well wanted) to get better and sometimes pushes back, unlike Marinette who doesn’t realize the harm she does as she NEVER faces consequences and learns from her actions. Someone doing harm without realizing is worse than someone who does it purposely, because at least that person has limits.
Alya: The girl's worse than Hawkmoth! 18:51 Alex half the city been akumatized because of her! Me: Why are they making such good points?, because they're right, half the city been akumatized because of Chloe, there was Alya as Lady Wifi, Nathan as Evillustrator, turn Kim into Dark Cupid, Rose into Princess Fragrance, Juleka got akumatized into Refleka because of her, Maylnne was Horrficator, and let's not forget Ivan, who was akumatized into Stone heart in part 2 of the origins episode.
Dude, I feel you. I understand exactly how you feel. Every time I see Chloe or Lila, I can't help but groan because I know they will give me an excuse to yell at them. I have a really really strong hared for those two. I was proud of Chloe for awhile (you'll know why later) but that pride went down the toilet very quickly. Also, I just realized this episode, Syren, had my absolute favorite Adrien and Plagg moments! Adrien knows Plagg knows Ladybug is hiding something and tries to tempt him with all sorts of cheese and Plagg just loses it!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Few episodes have done so far (mostly one every week), at this way if I calculate from the first day of miraculous episode, it will take more than 💯 weeks to catch up with the show (unless there is double episode every Tuesday or one both Tuesday and Thursday)
Oh girl I'm telling you, you will *LOVE* Chloe in Season 2. She has the most character development and I enjoyed it a lot. She became my favourite character. Not until the next season though when they trashed all her character development in the garbage.
@Marinette she had character development when mari keeps entrusting her, but chloe got heartbroken when mari didn't choose her and hawk-moth twisted her mindset into hating mari after that-
@Marinette I disagree, the writers were clearly developing her character in season 2 and steering away from being a complete bully. They also furthered this throughout season 3 but the finale did a 180 on her character, it simply doesn’t make sense when we see her wanting to be a better person and be vulnerable to Ladybug. I don’t buy Astruc’s abominable explanation that “people don’t change”. If he did want to portray that then he could have executed it astronomically better. I’m honestly still bitter about this because her character in season 4 has remained the same and Zoé literally exists to replace Chloé’s rejected development.
I agree. Ladybug could've helped change her. If she trusted her and trained her well Chloe would've changed. She loves to be depended on. Also her only excuse was that chloe's identity was revealed but I'm season 4 she literally didn't care about giving everyone who already had their identity revealed their miraculous. If that isn't hypocrisy then I don't know what is. Chloe trusted her but no. Chloe can't be changed or whatever. That's why I hate the writing of Chloe's character
Um, yeah, sure. Chloé is André Bourgeois' only child. I suppose it didn't help that Chloé grew up as the only child of a wealthy man. She might of been nicer if she had a sister she had to share with growing up, instead of a push over father who gives her what ever she wants. Then there is that whole thing with her mother, who we have yet to see. I'll have to save that can of worms for later.
The adorable noises you make whenever Rena Rouge is focused on reminds me of the equally adorable noises you make whenever Nana Shimura from MHA is on screen.
Syren is one of my favorite episodes! The Plagg and Adrien bonding is so sweet! Especially when Plagg tells Adrien he could find another Cat Noir. But it wouldn't be Adrien. I cried during that! Their friendship melts my heart! Also Kim x Ondine is so cute!!!!
The way Zamber can predict the future, both with stuff in this, and other theories she made 0.0 I love both these episodes! They're a lot of fun!!! But watching Syren again makes me just so upset for Kitty and Ladybug. Next week, Captain Hardrock!!!!
Idk why y'all are so mad, Chloe is hilarious, her voice, her denseness in serious situations, the way she talks and pronounces things, she's ridiculous, utterly Ridiculous and I find it hilarious, utterly hilarious 😂😂
Lol same i personally think she’s the most entertaining character with the most personality. She may be mean but I would find the show boring without her
I wonder if Ondine is the person Mari will choose as the new Hawk Moth Also : since Rena Rouge was able to bewitch the animals, I think that means "Mirage" can affect all of the five senses. I don't think the big cats would have fall for an odorless hologram
also it's interesting how hawmoth was originally going to akumatize Marinette and even said the whole I'm going to akumatize them speech but akumatized her teacher instead which was an interesting misdirect.with that being said I find it ironic how hawkmoth failed to mind control Marinette/ladybug but thanks to zombizou everyone else in the episode got mind controlled except for Marinette/ladybug herself.
21:11-21:15 That was MORE than a reflex! Marinette already hurt Chloe mentally and emotionally, but I can tell she was desperate to hurt her physically after all the BS she put her, Adrien, and everyone else through.
If you ask me, the zombizou episode is best to watch at french because the "bizou" part of her name means kiss in french. So her name can be translated to "kissing zombie"
WARNING SEASON 2 HAS A TRILOGY STORY ARC! YOU NEED TO WATCH STYLE QUEEN QUEEN WASP AND MALEDIKTATOR IN THAT ORDER BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A CHARACTER THAT YOU LOVE TO HATE
(Two... Hours.... Later) Um, Nino? Ayla? The kissing curse has been lifted, you two can stop now... Helloo~ooo?!? ... Oh nevermind, you kids be kids. Nothing to see here folks, move along!
I see that zombizou used the common horror movie trope of most of the main characters being defeated by the villain 1 by 1 by process of elimination until there's only 1 of them left standing. Btw I'm not a fan of horror I just thought that horror trope worked really well for this episode since it made zombizou a threatening villain and che was 1 of hawk moths akumatized victims that came the closest to helping hawmon win.
Dile gracias a Dios por no tener que esperar cada capítulo comiéndote las uñas de los nervios. Ahora ya vamos por el final de la 4 temporada y realmente estamos todos muy emocionados:)
I don’t want spoil you but it will save you to know that the development with Master Fu and Adrien goes *knowhere* . Supposedly it happens “offscreen” but really they did nothing with it. Also, if you thought Chloe was actually getting some character development don’t bother. Save you on editing something like the Tyra Banks line for when she disappoints you
Chloe is interested in Adrian, but not Noir and the only other person she manages to like more than herself is Ladybug. So she wasn't "sacrificing" herself to get a kiss from Noir, but did it really for her, which gives interesting shipping potential.
The mermaid transformation is one of my favorites the costume looks so pretty also I used to not like Chloe when I started watching the show but then when Chloe became Queen Bee I started to like Chloe but I hate that she's been reverted to be mean again I wanted her to get a redemption arc that make her be nice and be Queen Bee but it's not going happen again.
@Marinette I thought she was but maybe I was wrong but was she nice to Sabrina and Zoe a bit and she's also nice to Adrien but not that much. And she was nice to the teacher and Ladybug but her being nice to Ladybug didn't last that long.
Okay, now that I've rewatched this Siren episode, something occurred to me. Didn't Gabriel got Master Fu's tablet which has the deciphered text of the book? And the book contains the details for the power-up. Then, why didn't Gabriel used those power-ups? Oh well, I guess there's not much situation where he can use those 🤷🏻♂️.
@@IAmZamber don't count on this show because the people in this world are not like the real themselves and not a brain . except for some people in the show and even plagg called every body is a idiot and the akumas can be broken if they remember that he are good . you are going to like the luka character and it's like Archie comics with marinette with to boys and season 4 is marinette is going to fall for catnoir and this is what I like and how they are slowly starting to fall for each other I am getting a Pinocchio and beauty and the beast feel to some of the episodes in season 4 and I don't know why. Dad is ether hypnotize by a hypnotize ring that he has been use on Adrian agreste nor he is a robot that can calculate where the kwam are and was built by older Lila who is the best liar ever nor it is the mom because no one has been able to think that her pulses nor use a mirror over to see if she is acting dead because she is actress after all . the villain did not do anything to see if she is acting and I really don't like the guy! he is not a good villains villain and dad. He is going to be killed by some thing.
Zamber: The worst they can say is no. Me: *remembering the racist comment I got from my first crush. And then remembering the second crush ended up in a love triangle with the second girl making me insecure and normalizing abuse* it can always get worse Zamber😅. But seriously, the kiss zombie one creeped me out. I would not like anyone kissing me. I prefer the biting of zombies. 🤣 But yes, a lot of comments are right, Chloe does get the most development in this whole show. It's the classic mean girl redemption. Just wish they kept it going for season 3 and above.
Trust us Zamber, you’re thoughts about Chloé are gonna do a full 180 this season! X3 Then s3 gonna make you mad, cuz Thomas doesn’t know how to use his brain sometimes!
@Marinette I’ve literally been expecting you! Are you really coming back to this comment section just to see people complain about Chloé and how she deserved better, just so you can stand up for Thomas’ bad writing? I saw your comments on others about Chloé, and I had a feeling you’d come here complaining! I get this is your opinion, and what I’m about to say is all my opinion and thoughts and observations, but I want you to see our side of the situation. Here’s the thing! Chloé would’ve been a great character If her dang betrayal didn’t come so dang randomly! And Ik when it comes to betrayals, they come out of no where, which this was, but in this case, this one was done so poorly! She’s not a good villain, and development to become one sucked and could’ve been written better! They gave her development this season, and while Ik she still tended to act snobby at times, keep in mind no one is perfect, and she can’t change within one ep, those eps were just development, which could’ve led to great stuff!! Also, Thomas wants to use Chloé as someone who shows “Not everyone can change” Which isnt a bad thing, but listen, he had a missed opportunity! He could’ve kept up Chloé’s development showing “some people can change” While for Lila she could’ve EASILY been used as “While some don’t change”! You see what I mean? There were moments actually showing this for Lila! Lila is a good villain! A good written one for the most part! That, I’ll give Thomas! As I was saying, Ladybug tried apologizing to her like twice if I remember correctly, which lead to her not accepting both times! Boom there ya go!! “Not everyone can change” right there!! Ik it’s not my show, but he missed a HUGE opportunity to teach kids that while some can’t change, some also can!! And I DOUBT he had the Chloé betrayal junk since the beginning! And if he did, he did a horrible job portraying it!! Now, assuming you read this, thank you! I love Chloé, and I think she deserves tons better!! And Zoe’ is there to replace her, no argument there! What makes me more annoyed about that isn’t Zoe’ herself, I don’t really care for Zoe’, nor do I hate her, she’s eh. What makes me upset is the fact they are shoving bad Chloé down our throats! It’s forced for s4 especially!!! While they also forced us to like Zoe’, at least it was like that! Gosh it was hard to watch Sole Crusher and Queen Banana!! And even after all that, Zoe’ being her replacement, was only for 2 eps! The rest of the s4 she was either in the background or no where! So like, why was she even needed in the first place?! Bad writing is bad writing and miraculous has a few moments of that! And it also has good writing at times too! And Chloé’s development was amazing, until it was stomped all over stupidly! If Thomas did her betrayal better then I wouldn’t be this upset! Tibyyhvu gosh sorry for the essay, just this type of topic gets me all annoyed and frustrated, cuz she deserved better! Oh and about the Zamber thing, I assume that she’ll start liking Chloé a bit, or at least respecting her! I bet you all the fandom didn’t expect to like her one bit no matter what, but most of us did, and were upset when the betrayal ruined her character! I’ve been watching Zamber for a good while now, and not saying that you haven’t either, but it’s possible that at first once that one ep comes of Chloé taking the miraculous, she’ll be really annoyed as she said, but one she gets to the development eps, I think she’ll grow to at least tolerate Chloé! Maybe even like her! Anyway, this is all my opinion really, and Ik you’re just gonna go off on me anyway no matter what I say, and I’ll just get frustrated, so how bout we just drop this convo. And for the love of your own sanity, stop fighting others over such things like this! Plz, cuz it leads to bad outcomes!
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I was a bit worried Marinette would go full mermaid with that power up, but I’m glad she didn’t. That suit is way more practical and love the scales. And the pink-purple highlights in her pigtails is so cute
I agree full mermaid would be too much
Alix is the best character
Yeah, I love it so much 💓💕✨
@@plushmakerfan8444 ok?
It's Plagg's fault that Adrien didn't know about Master Fu until now. They were the ones who found the book, but Plagg had forgotten all about it. He should of had Adrien take it to Master Fu, much like Tikki did.
Also the reason why they made the power ups into cheeses is likely because that is what Plagg eats all the time and what Adrien normally uses to recharge him. Plagg hates transforming, so the cheese would make him tolerate it a bit more.
The part where Adrien used Plagg's love of cheese against him just to get him to tell him about Master Fu was funny!
@@nisaiahcampbell8390 I felt a bit bad for Plagg. But that cut off scream kills me!😆😂😂🤣🤣
I know by this time Zamber has already reacted to it, but... I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK TO SEE HER MEET THE BEST CHARACTER EVER!!!!! Our favorite blue-haired guitarrist is coming!!
Yes
Is it finally time? Is she finally going to see my favorite character? If so, this'll be great!
@@tigerx36 Captain Hardrock comes after Zombizou, so... YEAH, IT'S TIME!!!!
@@tigerx36 LUKA!!!
AHHHH YESSS MY BOY
Lmao Zamber was legit shook when Chloe started apologizing to Mrs. Bustier. That was hilarious! XD
I'm so happy it's a double episode because these 2 episodes are so good!
Its perfectly okay if you don't like Chloe. She's done so much harm to everyone around her with her cruel nature and how she rarely takes responsibility for her actions. She is capable of change but she still doesn't warrant sympathy for all the harm she's done before and after this episode. In a way, your hatred for Chloe reminds me of my personal hatred for Bakugou so I can relate to what you're feeling with this.
Bakugo did however looked at his deeds, grew and soon, redeemed himself. Speaking of MHA, I would want to see cat noir vs tomura shigaraki (miraculous: tales of ladybug and cat noir vs my hero academia) in death battle.
Exactly what I feel about Bakugou haha
@shacharlem4424 I'm wondering, do you know about mbti? it's very interesting to me that adrien/chat noir and tomura shigiraki are bothe infps. they're similar but different in a lot of ways too, but they definitely share personality traits
And then they ruined her redemption arc😢
Next week we have blue hair pretty boy 👀👀👀👀
"Hawkdaddy and his two hawkdaughters"
**flashbacks to season 4 finale**
i lost count of how many akumatized villains had chloe as their target, yet somehow she's always saved
Actually i think there has been more akumatizations by marinette/Ladybug then by Chloe
Paris has its demons, Hawkmoth makes them, but the real cause of their misery is Chloe
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@@joanasantos7906 Not really at least the Marinette's akumatisation is not cause by her because she personally wants people to suffer
23:33 funny you say "Royally Pissed" hahah can't wait to see your future reactions to this series!
Love how Ivan and Mylene keep cuddling after Zombizou's defeated. After all, why should the loving couple stop being affectionate just because they're not being forced to anymore?
Injustice is the only thing that's get marinette angry enoght to get to the point to be akumatized
Thats one little detail that I think is very cool AND very clever to the writers to do
Zombizou is a bit of a French pun. It combines the words "zombie" and "bisou" (sp), which means kiss. That's why people are zombified by being kissed instead.
Zambers lesson of love is very true. As a guy, I can confirm we are very dumb. Either that, or we don't want to ruin a friendship by assuming. SOOOOO tell that special someone you love em, don't hint at it. It'll work 2x as well.👍
the writers wanted to point out again that although chloe has her good moments, her nature remains unchanged, she is quick to revert back to her original self near the end or in the next episode after her moments of good have passed. Here chloe helped save the day, and apologized to her teacher but did not apologize to marinette for ruining her gift, she didnt apologize to the rest of her classmates after everything she said to them and after they risked their lives to save her and instead states everyone should thank her for helping save the day.
At least she has redeemable qualities. I still think she’s a semi-bad person, but she’s got good traits.
for me, it really looked like the writers were going to redeem chloe, but they quickly changed their minds in season 3. her development in season 2 was evident
@@N_Vwls the writers have stated chloe is not entirely evil, but she is not entirely good either, she has her good moments, however, her choices are still her own as she is still chloe, they are not ours to decide where to go.
@@user-zj2sq7ov8t I heard from another TH-cam comment that Austruc wasn’t that influential in the production of season 2. So when he came back he made Chloe’s character bad again, also I heard that Chloe is based off a childhood bully of his. Take all this with a grain of salt though 🧂
@@N_Vwls oh, that's why season 2 is the best one in all aspects. thomas wasn't envolved lol
I love both these episodes! I remember Zombizou was released on National Kissing Day and I absolutely loved Ladybugs new Aqua form!
YAAAAAAAS Zamber blessing us with double episodes!!!
By my count Chloe has been responsible for 11 alumtizations, at least in the episodes you've seen. Of course Marinette's hands aren't exactly clean ether. Both of them had a hand in Horrificator and I think she has the second highest akuma count after Chloe.
Yeah because marinette tries to help people but she messes up which caused some of the akumatizations
@@TS-fe4jl There are also cases like Max, who she caused the akumatzation because she wanted to spend time with Adrien, or André because she was upset about Adrien not showing, although I might cut her some slack on the latter. And don't get me started on Lila. She might not do it as often as Chloé, but she does cross people.
@@Narutonarutonaruto85yeah
After going through all episodes, Season 1-5, Marinette has caused 20 akumatizations. Also going through Chloe’s, it is less than Marinette’s. She needs to get her sh together girl
@@randomthings3607 Good to know. I only counted the episodes Zamber had posted so far, and naturally I don't think season 5 was out yet at the time. I hadn't updated my count in a while.
Ever thought of doing a tier list on akumatized looks?
zamber you cant imagine the week the miraculous ladybug fandom just had 😭
7:45 Just to say it again if you didn't know but miraculous actually boosts all physical abilities like agility and strength that's why Adrien could lift the car out of water.
Zamber: "if Chloe gets a miraculous ill be PISSED" *a few days later* 😃
Yeah, this was the closest Miraculous had to a Zombie outbreak
27:30 She literally predicted Penalteam 0_0
14:00
29:06 Wait till she finds out that she doesn’t even remember her daughter's name
Chloe's awful, but but her mom is the worst. Just utterly the worst.
@@rickypedia999 she has it from someone
Caserolle
yeah, keeping Adrien in the dark seemed pretty dumb considering the Ladybug and the Cat are halves, meant to be equal and balance each other, it just doesn't make sense that it would be an unbalanced dynamic between them
Man, this episode made me hope Alix would have gotten through Chloe through the season, considerong how Chloe reacted to Alix, but seems it was too much to hope
What annoyed me about the "other miraculous users" is that they were revealed MONTHS in advance through promos. So yeah, don't look at promos for this series. Bigger spoilers than the KH3 promos.
*YEARS
18:53 THANK YOU!!! She is the very reason Marinette and Adrien’s jobs and social lives are occasionally tougher than normal!!! She is the BANE of everyone’s existence!!!! I don’t care if she apologized, she’s hurt more than just one person.
To be fair half of the akumatizations Have also happened because a Marinette
@@jaredtheastralartist2510 Because it’s Marinette’s pov and the story revolves around her. She never wants people to get akumatized, most of the it’s just a misunderstanding.
@@pjyaz I don’t think Chloe wants that either, at least not to her close friends and family. Maybe just family because that doesn’t apply to Sabrina.
@@jaredtheastralartist2510 I don’t think that’s true.
Honestly, people get mad and sad and have negative emotions all the time and really you shouldn’t blame Chloé for the akumatizations when Marinette has caused more. Sometime Chloé doesn’t do it intentionally and sometimes Marinette does. And with Chloé, at least there’s a reason for the way she is, and the writers constantly make her mean. But when Marinette does the same things she’s seen as good because that’s how the writers want their to look, which is really unfair. If Marinette purposely caused Lila’s, Max’s, that super Adrien fan’s, etc only because of his own unhealthy obsession with Adrien that she can’t control- which honestly is just creepiness- then you should give her as much blame as Chloé, who at least is aware of her actions, wants (well wanted) to get better and sometimes pushes back, unlike Marinette who doesn’t realize the harm she does as she NEVER faces consequences and learns from her actions. Someone doing harm without realizing is worse than someone who does it purposely, because at least that person has limits.
She will hate Lila much much more later 👯♂️
Alya: The girl's worse than Hawkmoth! 18:51
Alex half the city been akumatized because of her!
Me: Why are they making such good points?, because they're right, half the city been akumatized because of Chloe, there was Alya as Lady Wifi, Nathan as Evillustrator, turn Kim into Dark Cupid, Rose into Princess Fragrance, Juleka got akumatized into Refleka because of her, Maylnne was Horrficator, and let's not forget Ivan, who was akumatized into Stone heart in part 2 of the origins episode.
Dude, I feel you. I understand exactly how you feel. Every time I see Chloe or Lila, I can't help but groan because I know they will give me an excuse to yell at them. I have a really really strong hared for those two. I was proud of Chloe for awhile (you'll know why later) but that pride went down the toilet very quickly.
Also, I just realized this episode, Syren, had my absolute favorite Adrien and Plagg moments! Adrien knows Plagg knows Ladybug is hiding something and tries to tempt him with all sorts of cheese and Plagg just loses it!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Astruc: “Okay, so does anyone know how to create a family friendly zombie apocalypse episode?”
Script Writer: “Oh, maybe *I* could be of assistance”
Few episodes have done so far (mostly one every week), at this way if I calculate from the first day of miraculous episode, it will take more than 💯 weeks to catch up with the show (unless there is double episode every Tuesday or one both Tuesday and Thursday)
Oh girl I'm telling you, you will *LOVE* Chloe in Season 2. She has the most character development and I enjoyed it a lot. She became my favourite character. Not until the next season though when they trashed all her character development in the garbage.
@Marinette she had character development when mari keeps entrusting her, but chloe got heartbroken when mari didn't choose her and hawk-moth twisted her mindset into hating mari after that-
What happened in season 3 WAS NOT CHLOÉ’S FAULT AT ALL! LADYBUG IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DESERVES BLAME! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE CORPSE FLOWER!
@Marinette I disagree, the writers were clearly developing her character in season 2 and steering away from being a complete bully. They also furthered this throughout season 3 but the finale did a 180 on her character, it simply doesn’t make sense when we see her wanting to be a better person and be vulnerable to Ladybug. I don’t buy Astruc’s abominable explanation that “people don’t change”. If he did want to portray that then he could have executed it astronomically better. I’m honestly still bitter about this because her character in season 4 has remained the same and Zoé literally exists to replace Chloé’s rejected development.
I agree. Ladybug could've helped change her. If she trusted her and trained her well Chloe would've changed. She loves to be depended on. Also her only excuse was that chloe's identity was revealed but I'm season 4 she literally didn't care about giving everyone who already had their identity revealed their miraculous. If that isn't hypocrisy then I don't know what is. Chloe trusted her but no. Chloe can't be changed or whatever. That's why I hate the writing of Chloe's character
@@brycelacy3545 My theory is that Astruc simply based Chloé on a childhood bully.
Um, yeah, sure. Chloé is André Bourgeois' only child. I suppose it didn't help that Chloé grew up as the only child of a wealthy man. She might of been nicer if she had a sister she had to share with growing up, instead of a push over father who gives her what ever she wants. Then there is that whole thing with her mother, who we have yet to see. I'll have to save that can of worms for later.
And that can runs deeper than you know.
I won't spoil anything, but hearing your thoughts about chloe... Season 2 and 3 are gonna be an emotional rollercoaster for you!
6:05 there is litteraly no reason Chat can't know this, this is just arbitrary conflict that won't even amount to anything anyways.
Okay, but imagine Zombizou during Covid😆
That would suck!
As for your question about Kim getting a miraculous, give it time.
The adorable noises you make whenever Rena Rouge is focused on reminds me of the equally adorable noises you make whenever Nana Shimura from MHA is on screen.
Syren is one of my favorite episodes! The Plagg and Adrien bonding is so sweet! Especially when Plagg tells Adrien he could find another Cat Noir. But it wouldn't be Adrien. I cried during that! Their friendship melts my heart! Also Kim x Ondine is so cute!!!!
Okay but can we talk about what happened in Zombiezou. If you watch the episode Nath just disappears when everyone reaches the roof of the school
The way Zamber can predict the future, both with stuff in this, and other theories she made 0.0
I love both these episodes! They're a lot of fun!!! But watching Syren again makes me just so upset for Kitty and Ladybug. Next week, Captain Hardrock!!!!
And us resisting the urge to tell her whether or not she's right or wrong
And so
Chloe's journey officially begins
And Zamber, there's actually a 3 parter in season 2.
And it ends in s2
No there is not. Queens Battle is a 2 parter. And if you don't belive me then I suggest watching Malediktator's ending scene.
Netflix has them split between part 1 and part 2 because mid season hiatus is very common in this show
Yayyy! Can’t wait until you see who gets the turtle and bee miraculous! I really hope you get up to season 4 it gets soooo good!
“zombizou" is actually a pun, because zombie is the creature that we already know and “bizou" means “kiss" in freanch
Zamber being in love with Rena Rouge brightens my life.
This is so exciting I've been watch miraculous since it came out when I was in middle school
Idk why y'all are so mad, Chloe is hilarious, her voice, her denseness in serious situations, the way she talks and pronounces things, she's ridiculous, utterly Ridiculous and I find it hilarious, utterly hilarious 😂😂
Lol same i personally think she’s the most entertaining character with the most personality. She may be mean but I would find the show boring without her
I wonder if Ondine is the person Mari will choose as the new Hawk Moth
Also : since Rena Rouge was able to bewitch the animals, I think that means "Mirage" can affect all of the five senses. I don't think the big cats would have fall for an odorless hologram
also it's interesting how hawmoth was originally going to akumatize Marinette and even said the whole I'm going to akumatize them speech but akumatized her teacher instead which was an interesting misdirect.with that being said I find it ironic how hawkmoth failed to mind control Marinette/ladybug but thanks to zombizou everyone else in the episode got mind controlled except for Marinette/ladybug herself.
21:11-21:15 That was MORE than a reflex! Marinette already hurt Chloe mentally and emotionally, but I can tell she was desperate to hurt her physically after all the BS she put her, Adrien, and everyone else through.
Or it was literally just a reflex that could’ve happened with anyone
Ladybug: *Flips Chloe over* "Sorry"
I'm pretty sure she wanted to do that anyway
If you ask me, the zombizou episode is best to watch at french because the "bizou" part of her name means kiss in french. So her name can be translated to "kissing zombie"
it is so hard knowing things and not wanting to spoil but also wanting to gush (and complain at times) about things I know lol
Zamber: Is Kim going to get a miraculous?!
Me: He should have
Zombizu is based from the words zombie and bizu which is french for kiss
I think it would have been cool if Nino hadn't been zombified by Alya's kiss since he didn't try to fight her love.
I love Zombizzou's design.
21:30 no he isn’t but there is an error where while cat noir is running, his eyes turn back to green but then to pink
21:42 while watching the episode for the first time I myself diddent instantly pick up on that I'm impressed.
27:30 laughs in penalteam
Double episode!!! YEAH!!!
Damn, zamber can predict de future 😂
Ms Boustier is the first villain to ever at least attempt to resist an akuma
21:38 wow I did not pick up on that the first time I watched the episode myself I'm impressed.
Chloe's good vs evil alignment swings like a pendulum.
Cant wait for her reaction of that battle.
The moment Marinettes locker opens: No no no no No! NOO!!
Were so close to finally seeing chloe become better although that wont last long
@Marinette asstruck did her dirty as well to the fans
@Marinette She was better than her old self in some of the episodes , first understand the meaning of better and then speak
WARNING SEASON 2 HAS A TRILOGY STORY ARC!
YOU NEED TO WATCH STYLE QUEEN QUEEN WASP AND MALEDIKTATOR IN THAT ORDER BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A CHARACTER THAT YOU LOVE TO HATE
DO NOT watch Malediktator after Queen Wasp. They are mentioning Carapace in it and he appeared in Anansi which is between Queen Wasp and Malediktator
She cannot watch Malediktator after Queen Wasl. First she needs to see Reverser, then Anansi and THEN Malediktator.
I,m sure that you are gonna like chloe soon. She had such an amazing character development.
(Two... Hours.... Later) Um, Nino? Ayla? The kissing curse has been lifted, you two can stop now...
Helloo~ooo?!? ... Oh nevermind, you kids be kids. Nothing to see here folks, move along!
I see that zombizou used the common horror movie trope of most of the main characters being defeated by the villain 1 by 1 by process of elimination until there's only 1 of them left standing. Btw I'm not a fan of horror I just thought that horror trope worked really well for this episode since it made zombizou a threatening villain and che was 1 of hawk moths akumatized victims that came the closest to helping hawmon win.
Alix really said “so here’s the tea”.
Dile gracias a Dios por no tener que esperar cada capítulo comiéndote las uñas de los nervios. Ahora ya vamos por el final de la 4 temporada y realmente estamos todos muy emocionados:)
Zombizou, the episode nate got thanos snapped half way through :(
He always gets forgotten 🙃
6:30 He already knows where the book came from. Marinette already explained it at the end of S2E1.
I don’t want spoil you but it will save you to know that the development with Master Fu and Adrien goes *knowhere* . Supposedly it happens “offscreen” but really they did nothing with it. Also, if you thought Chloe was actually getting some character development don’t bother. Save you on editing something like the Tyra Banks line for when she disappoints you
8:57 because thats the only thing that Plagg would eat lol
Zombiezou is my favorite episode from miraculous, i just love this episode XD
Chloe is interested in Adrian, but not Noir and the only other person she manages to like more than herself is Ladybug. So she wasn't "sacrificing" herself to get a kiss from Noir, but did it really for her, which gives interesting shipping potential.
IAMZAMBER: ranting about the show wants us to like and forgive Chloe.
Me: It's simple Zamber, haven't you watched MLP: Friendship Is Magic.
Yep! Chloe is like Diamond Tiara. And Sabrina is like Silver Spoon!
There is not really a good reason why Adrien is kept off all the secrets.
This only make the team more unbalanced without a good reason.
@Marinette Don't metion that toliet humor episode if you value your mouth.
It' s the sign of good writing that you hate Chloe. She was written that way.
SO CLOSE TO MY FAVORITE EPISODE! ART
The mermaid transformation is one of my favorites the costume looks so pretty also I used to not like Chloe when I started watching the show but then when Chloe became Queen Bee I started to like Chloe but I hate that she's been reverted to be mean again I wanted her to get a redemption arc that make her be nice and be Queen Bee but it's not going happen again.
@Marinette I thought she was but maybe I was wrong but was she nice to Sabrina and Zoe a bit and she's also nice to Adrien but not that much. And she was nice to the teacher and Ladybug but her being nice to Ladybug didn't last that long.
The miraculous makes them a lot stronger and tougher than you think
Okay, now that I've rewatched this Siren episode, something occurred to me. Didn't Gabriel got Master Fu's tablet which has the deciphered text of the book? And the book contains the details for the power-up. Then, why didn't Gabriel used those power-ups? Oh well, I guess there's not much situation where he can use those 🤷🏻♂️.
Zamber: Boy are dumb
Me: that is so oppressive
I’m sorry, this is so unrelated to miraculous but your scarf is adorable 🥰
thank youuuuuuuuu :3
@@IAmZamber don't count on this show because the people in this world are not like the real themselves and not a brain . except for some people in the show and even plagg called every body is a idiot and the akumas can be broken if they remember that he are good . you are going to like the luka character and it's like Archie comics with marinette with to boys and season 4 is marinette is going to fall for catnoir and this is what I like and how they are slowly starting to fall for each other I am getting a Pinocchio and beauty and the beast feel to some of the episodes in season 4 and I don't know why. Dad is ether hypnotize by a hypnotize ring that he has been use on Adrian agreste nor he is a robot that can calculate where the kwam are and was built by older Lila who is the best liar ever nor it is the mom because no one has been able to think that her pulses nor use a mirror over to see if she is acting dead because she is actress after all . the villain did not do anything to see if she is acting and I really don't like the guy! he is not a good villains villain and dad. He is going to be killed by some thing.
@@IAmZamber the creator of the show hates chole too! As well as it shows in season 4 and 2 and 3.
These are two of my favorite episode
"I want Hawk daddy and his two Hawk daughters of a team"
Zamber: The worst they can say is no.
Me: *remembering the racist comment I got from my first crush. And then remembering the second crush ended up in a love triangle with the second girl making me insecure and normalizing abuse* it can always get worse Zamber😅.
But seriously, the kiss zombie one creeped me out. I would not like anyone kissing me. I prefer the biting of zombies. 🤣 But yes, a lot of comments are right, Chloe does get the most development in this whole show. It's the classic mean girl redemption. Just wish they kept it going for season 3 and above.
Who else is keeping a list of how many predictions that zamber says and weather or not they're right.
Next week we finally get best boy!! 💙
Lukadrien is quite a cute ship. And Adrigami.^^
Z: the worst they can say is no
They: ew!
You have 2 or 3 episodes left until you finally get your answers about the new miraculous
Trust us Zamber, you’re thoughts about Chloé are gonna do a full 180 this season! X3
Then s3 gonna make you mad, cuz Thomas doesn’t know how to use his brain sometimes!
@Marinette
I’ve literally been expecting you! Are you really coming back to this comment section just to see people complain about Chloé and how she deserved better, just so you can stand up for Thomas’ bad writing? I saw your comments on others about Chloé, and I had a feeling you’d come here complaining! I get this is your opinion, and what I’m about to say is all my opinion and thoughts and observations, but I want you to see our side of the situation.
Here’s the thing!
Chloé would’ve been a great character If her dang betrayal didn’t come so dang randomly! And Ik when it comes to betrayals, they come out of no where, which this was, but in this case, this one was done so poorly!
She’s not a good villain, and development to become one sucked and could’ve been written better!
They gave her development this season, and while Ik she still tended to act snobby at times, keep in mind no one is perfect, and she can’t change within one ep, those eps were just development, which could’ve led to great stuff!!
Also, Thomas wants to use Chloé as someone who shows “Not everyone can change”
Which isnt a bad thing, but listen, he had a missed opportunity!
He could’ve kept up Chloé’s development showing “some people can change”
While for Lila she could’ve EASILY been used as “While some don’t change”!
You see what I mean? There were moments actually showing this for Lila! Lila is a good villain! A good written one for the most part! That, I’ll give Thomas!
As I was saying, Ladybug tried apologizing to her like twice if I remember correctly, which lead to her not accepting both times! Boom there ya go!! “Not everyone can change” right there!!
Ik it’s not my show, but he missed a HUGE opportunity to teach kids that while some can’t change, some also can!!
And I DOUBT he had the Chloé betrayal junk since the beginning! And if he did, he did a horrible job portraying it!!
Now, assuming you read this, thank you!
I love Chloé, and I think she deserves tons better!!
And Zoe’ is there to replace her, no argument there! What makes me more annoyed about that isn’t Zoe’ herself, I don’t really care for Zoe’, nor do I hate her, she’s eh.
What makes me upset is the fact they are shoving bad Chloé down our throats! It’s forced for s4 especially!!! While they also forced us to like Zoe’, at least it was like that! Gosh it was hard to watch Sole Crusher and Queen Banana!!
And even after all that, Zoe’ being her replacement, was only for 2 eps!
The rest of the s4 she was either in the background or no where! So like, why was she even needed in the first place?!
Bad writing is bad writing and miraculous has a few moments of that!
And it also has good writing at times too!
And Chloé’s development was amazing, until it was stomped all over stupidly! If Thomas did her betrayal better then I wouldn’t be this upset!
Tibyyhvu gosh sorry for the essay, just this type of topic gets me all annoyed and frustrated, cuz she deserved better!
Oh and about the Zamber thing, I assume that she’ll start liking Chloé a bit, or at least respecting her!
I bet you all the fandom didn’t expect to like her one bit no matter what, but most of us did, and were upset when the betrayal ruined her character!
I’ve been watching Zamber for a good while now, and not saying that you haven’t either, but it’s possible that at first once that one ep comes of Chloé taking the miraculous, she’ll be really annoyed as she said, but one she gets to the development eps, I think she’ll grow to at least tolerate Chloé! Maybe even like her!
Anyway, this is all my opinion really, and Ik you’re just gonna go off on me anyway no matter what I say, and I’ll just get frustrated, so how bout we just drop this convo.
And for the love of your own sanity, stop fighting others over such things like this!
Plz, cuz it leads to bad outcomes!
@Marinette they didn't team in season 3 tho, they were having a fight