WTF I'd say it is due time the dev start looking at institutions, because the way they spread past 1600 is completely bonkers and shouldn't be. African or Indonesian nations shouldn't develop the enlightenment unless the player is directly involved in it. The fact it still hasn't been addressed during all of these years is concerning
@@sephikong8323 Yeah, the westernization is non existent. The institutions are a fine idea, but I dunno how to improve it to make westernisation again having sense.
@Aloe Vera the revolutions in Europe were not some gold mines Europeans "got lucky" to stumble into, so it's not like the same ideas of Enlightenment could've been developed "by luck" in any other place. It's not about alt history as it's more about historical revisionism. It's grossly offensive to Europe's contribution to our modern world. People should grow up and accept the fact that the freethinking and progressive minds resided in the western world, not in fucking Indonesia.
The biggest issue I've had with Revolutionary mechanics so far came in my Kingdom of God run. There's essentially nothing that you, the Pope, can do to realistically interact with the revolution beyond crushing the Revolutionary target over and over again. It nearly ruined my empire as the Revolutionary Ideas in a province can't really be interacted with, you don't get any of the reactionary options or modifiers, and you can never go Revolutionary yourself. It's very frustrating and I feel like as one of the few nations in the game who can never, under any circumstances, go Revolutionary there should be some kind of option that allows you to at least interact with the events.
Likewise. Just sort of ruined the end of my campaign. The revolution was present in like 56% of my country increasing min autonomy to 55 in all affected provinces with just no way to lower them. Maybe I misunderstood something. But basically just had to deal with a much weaker empire for the last 70ish years of campaign. Constantly dismantling revolutions only to see the nation flip back before end of truce timer.
I know I'm 3 years late and you probably quit EU4 but the real solution is, get better at excommunicating your neighbors and just winning wars. The Papal States are one of the easiest catholic nations to expand with. You should have no problem owning half of Western Europe by 1650. Take Venetia ASAP, then Border gore straight to the Gold mines in Hungary, Austria, and Castile. Expansion should be trivial once you dominate the regional powers near you.
The revolutionary target in my game was a huge Prussia and man were they strong. Late game is a lot more fun now imo but I do hope they continue to create more unique government types.
I was playing a game as Austria, and had the entirety of Europe as a vassal swarm. The Center of the Revolution spawned in my territory, but since nobody had turned revolutionary other than my vassals, the revolution just despawned a few decades after.
Those revolutionary mechanics seem incredibly strong because it seems like you can stack 1) so much army morale you'll effectively turn Napoleonic Warfare into WW1 2)so much republican tradition you won't have to worry about it
One thing you missed is that if you are at war with someone as revolutionary with spread the revolution cb, the war enemy's province also gets revolution spread (usual 3 at once conversion still occurs(. And if the province become revolutionary, You gain revolutionary zeal.
Playing as France, I had 3 positive stability, no loans and 40k on the treasury, lots of Legitimacy, no war exhaustion. And I still got an event that spawned a center of revolution in Paris. So you don't need to fire the disaster to get the revolution. At least not if you are France
Imo it will more likely spawn if your country is the most troublesome. Like having so many wars and rebellions recently. Unrest i think is a factor too. It was the case with me as Russia and Prussia (i had the highest absolutism as both, but still). It's good to be revolutionary when you are a blobbing nation like both, but not so great when you are not looking to blob.
In my Austria game the revolution showed up in Vijayangar, who I was allied with at the time. Kind of boring for it to be so far away. Still I dumped the alliance and crushed the revolution to complete my mission for owning Indian provinces.
What do you do if you spawn the revolution center and don't want to go revolutionary. I wasted thirty years in game because I was a huge Germany and had to disband half my fleet and army because all my provinces were so autonomous and it took an eternity just for it to occupy all my provinces. I just had to sit and wait and become something I didnt even want. I didn't feel like I had any ability to combat it and because of the autonomy I just lost 30 years.
In my switzerland game i had to play with 50 percent autonomy from 1750 to the end of the game. I hated it so much. It didnt disappear. I refuse to go revolutionary if it wasnt my plan to go from beginning. And i hate revolution flags so much.
I found a way how to max crownland as much as possible. If you give to the estates privilegia to get their loyality equilibrium over 50 %, you can wait until loyality will reach 50 % and then seize their land and repeat it until the crownland is high. You should be able to reach 80% crownland long time before the Age of Absolutism. The privilegia are easy to revoke (in worst case scenario you can use agenda to increase their loyality. But of course, the privilegia that you choose shouldn't lower your crownland.
->played as Austria and enacted "the revoke privilegia", with around 70+ of princes(vassal), colonies, client state and PU. ->before the enactment of "renevatio imperii" to form Rome Empire, i was driven by curiosity to complete the "crush the revolution" mission trees and embrace revolution. Outcome - became revolutionary Austria, -HRE dismantled. 80% of my princes subject get liberty desire of more than 50%, so they wont be active during wartime, (However, the liberty desire of colonies, client state and PU stay normal ) also, it is interesting to note that my disloyal subjects did not start any independent war against me until the end of the game. -Diplomatic relation skyrocketed (70+/5), diplomatic points -999 until the end of game. -->finished the game with broken heart
You made me really curious about going revolutionary. I will probably try it in my spain game. Too bad i don't have emperor yet, i think some of the reforms are part of the dlc.
I'm not really convinced the new Revolution mechanics are challenging, or flavoury, enough. In my opinion, the Revolution should be a direct and natural reaction to absolutism (and also to the power of the nobility and clergy). Therefore, the Revolution should be a direct challenge to any blob and WC run, and WC/blob players should be scared as shit of it and try to opress the Revolution in order to achieve their goals. Conversely, players embracing the advent of the Revolution to flavour up/upend the late game should get their flavour, but at a serious cost to the stability of their nation. Right now, it seems to easy for absolutist countries to avoid the Revolution altogether, or to simply embrace the Revolution and using its modifiers to continue WC/blob. Also, i wonder if there is enough flavour by being a rev republic/empire? I do like the 'spread revolution' cb and the 'center of the revolution', good ideas. But it seems it needs to spread faster, and also multiple centers of the revolution would help (perhaps max 1 on each continent?), spawning in absolutist countries. What do you guys think?
Another thing to mention is that if the center of Revolution spawns in your country and you don’t want to go revolutionary, you have to fire the disaster and choose the royalist side and crush the Revolutionaries, when the disaster ends in a royalist victory the center of revolution should be dismantled
I don't like how it wrecks your autonomy, but I suppose it does force the player to actively either try to fight it, or adopt it and fight against the reactionary nations.
I tried. But I was playing Austria obtaining the AEIOU achievement and had a lot of clay overseas. The revolution started in Wien, spread across the Vassal HRE and 3 or 4 OPMs became revolutionary. That's it. Nothing happened. PS: Is it just me, or is playing in the HRE as a minor pretty much broken? I played two games as Lübeck and one as Aachen and Austria always enacted Ewiger Landfriede before I was powerful enough to challenge him.
Imperial Authority gain is currently bugged to shit. Apparently the ai has been able to revoke the privilegia within the 1st century regularly. Any ai bordering the empire can now join if they have a high enough opinion of Austria (or maybe the other way around?) and are small enough. And the Emperor gets PLUS 10 for each little OPM that joins. No scale on gain based on dev or anything.
Another thing that's going on is, that after the Pope joined the HRE (what happens every time) and I'm allied with him, I get every couple years a truce with him, for no apparent reason. Or maybe just the message, that the truce is over, I'm not sure.
Playing as France with a PU with Spain and Sweden had an army of 1 mil and decided to take his advice and lose to a rev nation to get rev ideas, ended up becoming a massive coalition war and I lost everything
@@Gosciu733 yeah they made it super hard to blob out. which kinda stinks. but the revolution thing is super fun still. you get to be at perpetual war and if you combine it with the German/French claims you get on everything. you become unstoppable.
@@malak3347 I like most of the changes in this patch, but execution is horrible. Being able to revoke at 1460 and stopping counter reformation by spamming a button. Paradox didn't even bother to test anything. Most of players won't even play till 1700 cause the game is so broken from 1444. And if they will they will WC with Austria and vassal swarm by 1720. Paradox makes their customers look like fools by charging them 20 bucks for this half ass product. So besides that I particularly don't like only absolutism nerf, but revolution mechanics are nice.
I was playing Prussia and the center of revolution spawned in Berlin it was spreading slowly, and at a certain year it vanished automatically, I didn't know how to boost up the process :(
After getting to the end date twice I don't think I'll ever get there again. By the start of the 1700s I give up lol. This might be the only way I ever actually see the revolutions
sounds like they should prolong the game a bit to mid 1871 for the fall of the French commune rather than 1821 and the death of Napoleon if they want the revolution thing to be a bit more realistic, but of course who plays in order to get a historical outcome.
In my Andalusia game revolutionaries spawned in Ming (which happened to be stable) and they just didn't care at all. Disaster didn't fire for them, and they didn't embrace it by having it in all provinces. So after about 50 years of pointless spreading in Ming every nation got an event "revolutionaries destroyed" and they just dissapperead completely. Now I have 40 more years to play and revolution just didn't happen and will never happen, very dissapointing tbh.
Tbh, revolutions happening outside Europe is inaccurate and should not have been implemented. I don't understand why they've changed something that was not broken.
I declared war against a revolutionary target with the proper cb, won the war, demanded dismantling of the revolution, nothing happend in my country where I have lots of provinces with a 50% autonomy :/
When I went to your "Ending the revolution" part, you only talk about how to end it if it spawns in another country. You don't talk about if it spawns in your own country. I want to know if it's possible to end the revolution without triggering the disaster. Some people say it will disappear after 30 years or something after no one has gone revolutionary, but I can't actually find that information on the wiki.
thank for the guide. need this for tomorrow mp game. its already in 1600. all the big guy bullying france, usa(me), malaca, brazil and japan. we plan to backstab them in revolution age
I heard something about that: instead of the specific french revolution desaster there should be a higher chance the revolutionary centre spawns in France.
I also think the original events for the French Revolution, once you become revolutionary, still can fire. I dunno, revolution happened in London and turned France revolutionary in my game, and soon Robespierre came to power, so I assume those flavor events are still there. if so, then you probably can get Napoleon
Hey RR. Can you please do a video on playing France and revolutions? What is the difference between trying to force the Revolutionary France events vs this new mechanic? I'm really struggling.
Statists vs Monarchists is my favorite monarch government reform. Personally I really don't like heirs so with this reform I can always select the best leader.
I went to war with a revolutionary minor looking to peace out with spread the revolution as offered tribute but it wouldn't allow me since only the home of the revolution and the revolutionary target can spread the revolution. I guess not all revolutionaries can spread. you should probably correct that on your next video.
Is there any way to destroy the Center of revolution if it spwaned in your nation? Or do you have to wait until the disaster fires to fight the rebels?
the Extended Timeline mod is up to date for 1.30.x, apparently its an easy mod for the modmaker to update. The mod extends the playable timeline from 2AD-9999AD and adds unique nations, new buildings, a much longer tech tree, along with map changes to remove wasteland. Some people get crashes and/or buggy wonky behavior ingame (i.e: personally in my Extended Timeline MP game, I could see the Toltecs on the map while playing as Holland in the 1200s). Supposedly performance is better as long as you stick roughly to the default playable years though, so if you're planning on playing from the 1444 start date and just keep going beyond the 1800s, you should have few problems.
@@dirtyjack6300 It does change up gameplay pretty significantly. I think it's necessary because otherwise there wouldn't be any techs / institutions / new building tiers post end-date. I'm not too sure how the mod affects the default playable years, but it'd certainly be a noticeable effect. If you really want the *full* experience of a post end-date game, you can port your EU4 save game into Victoria2, which picks up where eu4 leaves off, though I've never tried that and as I understand it the port isn't very well balanced, since both games focus on different features (i.e: I think religion is much less important in Vic2).
Mihai Popa u can play forever in normal mode. Just click continue when the end screen happens and u can continue. There wont of course be any new tech or institutions.
Hi Res, couple of months ago you have interviewed the Paradox Boss , he said that they worked on this update almost one year. Next time you can speak with him can you ask how is possible that a normal player with a decent experience can see these issues in just one hour and they did not in one year? what did they do in one year ? did they try the game ?????? Please ask.
Is it still worth it to go revolutionary as France? I always play France semi-casually early then punch really hard once age of absolutism started. Losing out on the 10% extra admin efficiency and the army discipline doesn’t seem great but some of those reforms looked really appealing. Plus you get Napoleon
Thats my question as well. I don't want to go revolutionary and now i have that shitty autonomy I'm playing as germany goddamn, can't i crack down on those fuckers at least until 20th century?
You have to be allies with or have occupied (during the war) the capitals of: the emperor and all the electors. Remember you can’t declare war with a member of the HRE if you are already at war with the emperor. So if you want to dismantle the empire make sure when you declare war that it’s going to bring in every elector you aren’t an ally of. Don’t worry if your allied electors won’t join the war with you. It’s enough to just have a standing alliance. Once you are occupying all the capitals click the HRE page and dismantle the empire.
I have a question: When I take money In peace deals it oftens happens that me and my Allys dont get as much Money as I took. So for Example I took 100 Dukats ,but the Message after the peace deal is signed says : you and your allys took 40 dukats you get 23. (this is only a example) Thank you for your help in advance.
I've noticed this, I think money is divided by allies warscore. So that you can't have a big nation like France do all the work for you and take a load of money.
TRUE, i dont know how yet... a center spawned in my empire as well, and because i didnt find any relevant info online i didnt care for a while... now most of the hre is becoming revolutions and even if i try to dismantle their revolutions, it return right after some time... I tried to release the nation of the center and after the truce declere war to dismantle the revolution but after i did that the center is still active and i dont know what to do... im waiting for a big nation to become a target of revolution and try to dismantle it but i dont know if it will work... If you know of something pls help.
Do you lose PUs when you go revolutionary? I’m in a french game and I hold the thrones of Milan, Naples, Spain, and Bohemia and I want to go revolutionary but I don’t want to lose my PUs
I believe you do lose them because those countries are subject of your king not your country. When the king is gone there is nothing binding your countries. I have not tested this but if I was you I would not risk it.
I have never reached revolution age in my games. At that point the game is boring af because you can take on anybody and win without any effort. First 200 years are fun but the rest is...
Is there no way for you to deal with the center of revolution if it spawns within your nation? Is there no way to destroy it or convert provinces that have been revolutionized in the case you don't want the revolution to spread?
I did not like the new revolutions. I was Mullhouse, an emperor of HRE, and all my free cities started turning revolutionary. I gave them Free city status back, and they accepted it, but then immediately switched to revolutionary again. I used Crush the revolution CB on them and won wars. The cities turned into monarchies, but after a few years became revolutionary. Looks like the revolution cannot be fought against. And I did not have any candidates to be free cities in my HRE. 😶
I am playing as Austria with vassal swarm and want to complete AEIOU, so I need to crush the revolution. Do I really have to fire the disaster and wait 20 years to crush it?
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11:23 Is named Adolf
Is Austrian
Become a dictator
Everyone : Oh shit, here we go again.
I wanted to go revolutionary as Bohemia. The centre of revolution spawned in Indonesia. ;___;
WTF
I'd say it is due time the dev start looking at institutions, because the way they spread past 1600 is completely bonkers and shouldn't be. African or Indonesian nations shouldn't develop the enlightenment unless the player is directly involved in it. The fact it still hasn't been addressed during all of these years is concerning
@@sephikong8323 Yeah, the westernization is non existent. The institutions are a fine idea, but I dunno how to improve it to make westernisation again having sense.
@@Patryk128pl Westernization made absolutely no sense.
@Aloe Vera the revolutions in Europe were not some gold mines Europeans "got lucky" to stumble into, so it's not like the same ideas of Enlightenment could've been developed "by luck" in any other place. It's not about alt history as it's more about historical revisionism. It's grossly offensive to Europe's contribution to our modern world. People should grow up and accept the fact that the freethinking and progressive minds resided in the western world, not in fucking Indonesia.
That is extremely odd considering how little chance there is for it to spawn outside europe
Why are there so many Peru flags rn?? Austria gets the Peruvian flag, Commowealth, Brunswick, etc.
To clarify, I'm not saying that the peruvian flag is bad
Austria be like - vertical gang!
@Jacob Kissinger true, everybody seems like a "wannabe" rev. France
@@hellshakeyano2327 Sie sprechen Deutsch in Peru?
@@Bsliggs No they don't *dab*
The biggest issue I've had with Revolutionary mechanics so far came in my Kingdom of God run. There's essentially nothing that you, the Pope, can do to realistically interact with the revolution beyond crushing the Revolutionary target over and over again. It nearly ruined my empire as the Revolutionary Ideas in a province can't really be interacted with, you don't get any of the reactionary options or modifiers, and you can never go Revolutionary yourself. It's very frustrating and I feel like as one of the few nations in the game who can never, under any circumstances, go Revolutionary there should be some kind of option that allows you to at least interact with the events.
I mean, the revolutionary Papal States would have to completely change tag.
Likewise. Just sort of ruined the end of my campaign. The revolution was present in like 56% of my country increasing min autonomy to 55 in all affected provinces with just no way to lower them. Maybe I misunderstood something. But basically just had to deal with a much weaker empire for the last 70ish years of campaign. Constantly dismantling revolutions only to see the nation flip back before end of truce timer.
Should just allow papal states to go revolutionary, considering it's also one of the coolest rev flags in game and historical
I know I'm 3 years late and you probably quit EU4 but the real solution is, get better at excommunicating your neighbors and just winning wars. The Papal States are one of the easiest catholic nations to expand with. You should have no problem owning half of Western Europe by 1650. Take Venetia ASAP, then Border gore straight to the Gold mines in Hungary, Austria, and Castile. Expansion should be trivial once you dominate the regional powers near you.
Merci!
In my game, center of revolution was in Kilwa.
The revolutionary target in my game was a huge Prussia and man were they strong. Late game is a lot more fun now imo but I do hope they continue to create more unique government types.
I was playing a game as Austria, and had the entirety of Europe as a vassal swarm. The Center of the Revolution spawned in my territory, but since nobody had turned revolutionary other than my vassals, the revolution just despawned a few decades after.
"you need to be constantly at war to keep the revolutionary zeal high"
me who has been playing as a horde the entire game: laughs in Mongolian
Those revolutionary mechanics seem incredibly strong because it seems like you can stack 1) so much army morale you'll effectively turn Napoleonic Warfare into WW1 2)so much republican tradition you won't have to worry about it
One thing you missed is that if you are at war with someone as revolutionary with spread the revolution cb, the war enemy's province also gets revolution spread (usual 3 at once conversion still occurs(. And if the province become revolutionary, You gain revolutionary zeal.
Love your videos keep the great work up!
Playing as France, I had 3 positive stability, no loans and 40k on the treasury, lots of Legitimacy, no war exhaustion. And I still got an event that spawned a center of revolution in Paris. So you don't need to fire the disaster to get the revolution. At least not if you are France
Imo it will more likely spawn if your country is the most troublesome. Like having so many wars and rebellions recently. Unrest i think is a factor too. It was the case with me as Russia and Prussia (i had the highest absolutism as both, but still). It's good to be revolutionary when you are a blobbing nation like both, but not so great when you are not looking to blob.
Was needing this so much. Mi run with Milan are in need for help!
In my Austria game the revolution showed up in Vijayangar, who I was allied with at the time. Kind of boring for it to be so far away. Still I dumped the alliance and crushed the revolution to complete my mission for owning Indian provinces.
What do you do if you spawn the revolution center and don't want to go revolutionary. I wasted thirty years in game because I was a huge Germany and had to disband half my fleet and army because all my provinces were so autonomous and it took an eternity just for it to occupy all my provinces. I just had to sit and wait and become something I didnt even want. I didn't feel like I had any ability to combat it and because of the autonomy I just lost 30 years.
In my switzerland game i had to play with 50 percent autonomy from 1750 to the end of the game. I hated it so much. It didnt disappear. I refuse to go revolutionary if it wasnt my plan to go from beginning. And i hate revolution flags so much.
Now you know how it feels to be the monarch getting revolutionized 😅
Fire the revolution disaster and win
I found a way how to max crownland as much as possible. If you give to the estates privilegia to get their loyality equilibrium over 50 %, you can wait until loyality will reach 50 % and then seize their land and repeat it until the crownland is high. You should be able to reach 80% crownland long time before the Age of Absolutism. The privilegia are easy to revoke (in worst case scenario you can use agenda to increase their loyality.
But of course, the privilegia that you choose shouldn't lower your crownland.
->played as Austria and enacted "the revoke privilegia", with around 70+ of princes(vassal), colonies, client state and PU.
->before the enactment of "renevatio imperii" to form Rome Empire, i was driven by curiosity to complete the "crush the revolution" mission trees and embrace revolution.
Outcome
- became revolutionary Austria,
-HRE dismantled. 80% of my princes subject get liberty desire of more than 50%, so they wont be active during wartime, (However, the liberty desire of colonies, client state and PU stay normal )
also, it is interesting to note that my disloyal subjects did not start any independent war against me until the end of the game.
-Diplomatic relation skyrocketed (70+/5), diplomatic points -999 until the end of game.
-->finished the game with broken heart
i am sure hre vassals cannot declare independence
Do you think you’ll go over the great peasant war imperial incident? As in how to best to spread peasant republics
From my games i learned that if i don't want to become revolutionary, the center of revolution will always spawn on my capital.
In my game, the revolution just decreased everyones autonomy, popped up in three minors and disappeared with an event
Your armies will literally fight until no one is left
For real? That's OP
@@sanskaarkulkarni1036 you can force your army to retreat
You made me really curious about going revolutionary. I will probably try it in my spain game. Too bad i don't have emperor yet, i think some of the reforms are part of the dlc.
Good Guide^^
Is there a guide for the new trade companies coming? If not it would be amazing if u could do one. Think this topic needs to be discussed
Christ, so many morale and discipline bonuses.
Rev Austria: what flag should we use?
Also Rev Austria: just put it sideway
The rise of the dictator Adolf from Austria...
Thank fuck for this, I couldn’t wrap my head around it even while using the console to try force it
You dont get 40% admin efficiency on absolutism. Its the same admin efficiency with absolutism.
They changed it
I'm not really convinced the new Revolution mechanics are challenging, or flavoury, enough. In my opinion, the Revolution should be a direct and natural reaction to absolutism (and also to the power of the nobility and clergy). Therefore, the Revolution should be a direct challenge to any blob and WC run, and WC/blob players should be scared as shit of it and try to opress the Revolution in order to achieve their goals. Conversely, players embracing the advent of the Revolution to flavour up/upend the late game should get their flavour, but at a serious cost to the stability of their nation.
Right now, it seems to easy for absolutist countries to avoid the Revolution altogether, or to simply embrace the Revolution and using its modifiers to continue WC/blob. Also, i wonder if there is enough flavour by being a rev republic/empire? I do like the 'spread revolution' cb and the 'center of the revolution', good ideas. But it seems it needs to spread faster, and also multiple centers of the revolution would help (perhaps max 1 on each continent?), spawning in absolutist countries.
What do you guys think?
Personally I really like how it works right now. The revolution happens instantly and that's amazing.
Another thing to mention is that if the center of Revolution spawns in your country and you don’t want to go revolutionary, you have to fire the disaster and choose the royalist side and crush the Revolutionaries, when the disaster ends in a royalist victory the center of revolution should be dismantled
nice video! i got this counter revolution with my spanish game, didn't know how to get rid of it...pretty much made my late game pretty harder
I don't like how it wrecks your autonomy, but I suppose it does force the player to actively either try to fight it, or adopt it and fight against the reactionary nations.
Is there any way to fight it other than waiting decades until game decides to lower your atbitarily increased autonomy?
Really like that Revolutionary Austria flag! Why does it even change?!
All Revolutionary countries change flag into a tricolour, either a set one from files or random one based on country colours
I tried. But I was playing Austria obtaining the AEIOU achievement and had a lot of clay overseas. The revolution started in Wien, spread across the Vassal HRE and 3 or 4 OPMs became revolutionary.
That's it.
Nothing happened.
PS: Is it just me, or is playing in the HRE as a minor pretty much broken? I played two games as Lübeck and one as Aachen and Austria always enacted Ewiger Landfriede before I was powerful enough to challenge him.
Another prob.
In my Last 3 prussia games france or spain become dotf in 1535 and i cant expand further, because they will get a call to arms :/
Imperial Authority gain is currently bugged to shit. Apparently the ai has been able to revoke the privilegia within the 1st century regularly. Any ai bordering the empire can now join if they have a high enough opinion of Austria (or maybe the other way around?) and are small enough. And the Emperor gets PLUS 10 for each little OPM that joins. No scale on gain based on dev or anything.
Another thing that's going on is, that after the Pope joined the HRE (what happens every time) and I'm allied with him, I get every couple years a truce with him, for no apparent reason. Or maybe just the message, that the truce is over, I'm not sure.
I wanted to play as revolutionary but at 1550 I had revoked privilegia it is so easy without guide or not
Wasnt working for me so found this "if emperor dlc is active, 20% of development has to be revolutionary for the disaster to fire"
Playing as France with a PU with Spain and Sweden had an army of 1 mil and decided to take his advice and lose to a rev nation to get rev ideas, ended up becoming a massive coalition war and I lost everything
Not ahistoric just with a twist
the part about absolutism giving 40% admin efficiency is false, they nerfed it down to 30, so zeal is the same as absolutism in that aspect.
Another thing for me to not like this update...
@@Gosciu733 yeah they made it super hard to blob out. which kinda stinks. but the revolution thing is super fun still. you get to be at perpetual war and if you combine it with the German/French claims you get on everything. you become unstoppable.
@@malak3347 I like most of the changes in this patch, but execution is horrible. Being able to revoke at 1460 and stopping counter reformation by spamming a button. Paradox didn't even bother to test anything. Most of players won't even play till 1700 cause the game is so broken from 1444. And if they will they will WC with Austria and vassal swarm by 1720. Paradox makes their customers look like fools by charging them 20 bucks for this half ass product. So besides that I particularly don't like only absolutism nerf, but revolution mechanics are nice.
I was playing Prussia and the center of revolution spawned in Berlin it was spreading slowly, and at a certain year it vanished automatically, I didn't know how to boost up the process :(
i've onbly played one game in 1.30, but i lost long before revolutions...
maybe it's time to actually play till late game even when I'm not achivement hunting
need one of these for absolutism. cant revoke burgher province for particularites unrest
After getting to the end date twice I don't think I'll ever get there again. By the start of the 1700s I give up lol. This might be the only way I ever actually see the revolutions
sounds like they should prolong the game a bit to mid 1871 for the fall of the French commune rather than 1821 and the death of Napoleon if they want the revolution thing to be a bit more realistic, but of course who plays in order to get a historical outcome.
Yeah but Victoria 2 starts in 1836 so the two games can’t overlap. Maybe they can end it in 1835 if they ever make a new eu4 game.
@@necromancernoivern7798 Eu4 and CK2 overlap
@@caiawlodarski5339 originally EU4 was meant to start in 1453 but Byzantium was too popular... I think
In my Andalusia game revolutionaries spawned in Ming (which happened to be stable) and they just didn't care at all. Disaster didn't fire for them, and they didn't embrace it by having it in all provinces. So after about 50 years of pointless spreading in Ming every nation got an event "revolutionaries destroyed" and they just dissapperead completely. Now I have 40 more years to play and revolution just didn't happen and will never happen, very dissapointing tbh.
Tbh, revolutions happening outside Europe is inaccurate and should not have been implemented. I don't understand why they've changed something that was not broken.
11:15 When you pull a Palpatine
I declared war against a revolutionary target with the proper cb, won the war, demanded dismantling of the revolution, nothing happend in my country where I have lots of provinces with a 50% autonomy :/
Can you make a guide to 1.30 Milan? Ambrosian republic changed a lot and idk how to do it properly:)
Now if only the game wasn't won by the mid 1600s.
Ming spawned the revolution when I played as Genoa..................
Can you make a guide on how to become a republic in the early game like florence? I love republics but I can't find a way to become one as a monarchy
You could enact all reforms, and for the last reform you could choose to become Reupublic/Theocracy.
Yeah, i also like the new idea of revolution mechanic. Although it could spawn even faster, it still very great.
When I went to your "Ending the revolution" part, you only talk about how to end it if it spawns in another country. You don't talk about if it spawns in your own country. I want to know if it's possible to end the revolution without triggering the disaster. Some people say it will disappear after 30 years or something after no one has gone revolutionary, but I can't actually find that information on the wiki.
thank for the guide. need this for tomorrow mp game. its already in 1600. all the big guy bullying france, usa(me), malaca, brazil and japan. we plan to backstab them in revolution age
I demand better revolutionary flags
I mean, have you seen GB's?
I make revolutionary HRE if Bavaria, was so fucking awesome.
How the hell do I get marines as two sicilies
is there anything specific about french revolution anymore? cuz in my france game i dont see the french revolution disaster
Yeah I didn't see either. Might be a bug. We'll have to wait for 1.30.2 patch
@@RadioRes thank god im not a completely blind moron. i was loosing my mind about this lol
I heard something about that: instead of the specific french revolution desaster there should be a higher chance the revolutionary centre spawns in France.
@@Geschichten_im_el._Kosmos that...actually sounds extremely reasonable
I also think the original events for the French Revolution, once you become revolutionary, still can fire. I dunno, revolution happened in London and turned France revolutionary in my game, and soon Robespierre came to power, so I assume those flavor events are still there. if so, then you probably can get Napoleon
I'd look into going Revolutionary Byzantium but the flag makes me want to gag
Hey RR. Can you please do a video on playing France and revolutions? What is the difference between trying to force the Revolutionary France events vs this new mechanic? I'm really struggling.
Now everyone exept standatd republic has statis vs monarchist
Statists vs Monarchists is my favorite monarch government reform. Personally I really don't like heirs so with this reform I can always select the best leader.
I went to war with a revolutionary minor looking to peace out with spread the revolution as offered tribute but it wouldn't allow me since only the home of the revolution and the revolutionary target can spread the revolution. I guess not all revolutionaries can spread. you should probably correct that on your next video.
If you go revolutionary prussia are you better than before? Would be interested in a Min Max Army Prussia
How much more morale can you get Holy Smokes...I wanna test this out. Just stack every morale boost possible and see how far we can bring it :D
Great video!
Also, how the hell did Opole make it to 1738 (as seen at the beginning)?
I have never played until the age of revolutions, and i have over 5000 hours in this game
The disaster only fires after the first center pops up? I lowered stab, took some loans and nothing
Is there any way to destroy the Center of revolution if it spwaned in your nation?
Or do you have to wait until the disaster fires to fight the rebels?
I'm guessing you'll have to wait and become revolutionary. Then fight someone else and offer tribute to dismantle the revolution.
Hmmm I'm worried about revolution and trying to WC, idk if it'll ruin my game if I can't deal with it...
Is there a simple mod to increase game-play time? I often play MP games with friends till late game and we always wish we had more time. :(
Extended timeline mod maybe, but not sure if it's up-to-date.
the Extended Timeline mod is up to date for 1.30.x, apparently its an easy mod for the modmaker to update. The mod extends the playable timeline from 2AD-9999AD and adds unique nations, new buildings, a much longer tech tree, along with map changes to remove wasteland. Some people get crashes and/or buggy wonky behavior ingame (i.e: personally in my Extended Timeline MP game, I could see the Toltecs on the map while playing as Holland in the 1200s). Supposedly performance is better as long as you stick roughly to the default playable years though, so if you're planning on playing from the 1444 start date and just keep going beyond the 1800s, you should have few problems.
@@dardade3277 Doesn't that change up like a bunch of weird stuff? I want to play the game unmodded except for the time past the end date :(
@@dirtyjack6300 It does change up gameplay pretty significantly. I think it's necessary because otherwise there wouldn't be any techs / institutions / new building tiers post end-date. I'm not too sure how the mod affects the default playable years, but it'd certainly be a noticeable effect. If you really want the *full* experience of a post end-date game, you can port your EU4 save game into Victoria2, which picks up where eu4 leaves off, though I've never tried that and as I understand it the port isn't very well balanced, since both games focus on different features (i.e: I think religion is much less important in Vic2).
Mihai Popa u can play forever in normal mode. Just click continue when the end screen happens and u can continue. There wont of course be any new tech or institutions.
Hi Res, couple of months ago you have interviewed the Paradox Boss , he said that they worked on this update almost one year. Next time you can speak with him can you ask how is possible that a normal player with a decent experience can see these issues in just one hour and they did not in one year? what did they do in one year ? did they try the game ?????? Please ask.
How do you kill the center of revolution when it spawns in your land?
Upd. The center disappears after certain time if revolution does not fire, the cities converted by this center also lose the revolutionary ideas.
is there any way to make sure the rev. centre will span cose to me or in my country ?
Is it still worth it to go revolutionary as France? I always play France semi-casually early then punch really hard once age of absolutism started. Losing out on the 10% extra admin efficiency and the army discipline doesn’t seem great but some of those reforms looked really appealing. Plus you get Napoleon
can we get a guide on how to play in Italy with the bi polar AI rejoining the HRE after the shadow kingdom event
Is it possible to remove revolution from provinces?
Thats my question as well. I don't want to go revolutionary and now i have that shitty autonomy
I'm playing as germany goddamn, can't i crack down on those fuckers at least until 20th century?
I miss radiores
how do i do this if i dont se the revolution disaster as a possiple one in the stability tab?
if i want to disable the HRE i need to control the provinces required to do so during the war or take them in a peace deal ?
just control capital, or be in an alliance with elector
You have to be allies with or have occupied (during the war) the capitals of: the emperor and all the electors. Remember you can’t declare war with a member of the HRE if you are already at war with the emperor. So if you want to dismantle the empire make sure when you declare war that it’s going to bring in every elector you aren’t an ally of. Don’t worry if your allied electors won’t join the war with you. It’s enough to just have a standing alliance. Once you are occupying all the capitals click the HRE page and dismantle the empire.
I really hope I win the give away!
I dont see thr revolution disaster in the stability tab....
I have a question:
When I take money In peace deals it oftens happens that me and my Allys dont get as much Money as I took. So for Example I took 100 Dukats ,but the Message after the peace deal is signed says : you and your allys took 40 dukats you get 23. (this is only a example)
Thank you for your help in advance.
I've noticed this, I think money is divided by allies warscore. So that you can't have a big nation like France do all the work for you and take a load of money.
@@richardmcdonald8724 I Thats right but me and my allies get combined less Money.
It's a known bug this patch sometimes when taking land and money you will get less money then what was in the deal hopefully it is patched soon
@@justinweeks3907 Thank you for your answer.
Hey Res, could you make a video on a Prussia guide for 1.30?
If the revolution pops up in my country but I *do not* want to go revolutionary how do I stop it ? The increased autonomy is destroying my economy .
TRUE, i dont know how yet... a center spawned in my empire as well, and because i didnt find any relevant info online i didnt care for a while... now most of the hre is becoming revolutions and even if i try to dismantle their revolutions, it return right after some time... I tried to release the nation of the center and after the truce declere war to dismantle the revolution but after i did that the center is still active and i dont know what to do... im waiting for a big nation to become a target of revolution and try to dismantle it but i dont know if it will work... If you know of something pls help.
Do you lose PUs when you go revolutionary? I’m in a french game and I hold the thrones of Milan, Naples, Spain, and Bohemia and I want to go revolutionary but I don’t want to lose my PUs
I believe you do lose them because those countries are subject of your king not your country. When the king is gone there is nothing binding your countries. I have not tested this but if I was you I would not risk it.
Try to become revolutionary to see what happens but have a back up save if what you fear happens
You keep your PUs, however in not sure of this has changed this patch
You keep them, i played Rev.France with Spain as PU. (You can see it here by using mapmodes : skanderbeg.pm/displaymap.php?id=e85e98 )
can the revolution spread to continents other than europe?
nevermind i'm stupid
I think i'll rollback a couple versions instead
Can't become revolutionary republic if you are already an republic?
Does the new revolution mechanics (centers of rev.) require the dlc?
The new emperor dlc
Yep, you need to pay 20$
I have never reached revolution age in my games. At that point the game is boring af because you can take on anybody and win without any effort. First 200 years are fun but the rest is...
thats why you play on very hard and lucky nations
@@artyomarty391 I always play on very hard and it doesn't make a difference. The AI is not smart enough.
Will I lose my PUs when going revolutionary?
The Disaster is away now right?
Becoming revolutionary as Russia. God it was a stomp against practically everyone :D. I burned Europe in the revolution as i spread it there
Is there no way for you to deal with the center of revolution if it spawns within your nation? Is there no way to destroy it or convert provinces that have been revolutionized in the case you don't want the revolution to spread?
I did not like the new revolutions. I was Mullhouse, an emperor of HRE, and all my free cities started turning revolutionary. I gave them Free city status back, and they accepted it, but then immediately switched to revolutionary again. I used Crush the revolution CB on them and won wars. The cities turned into monarchies, but after a few years became revolutionary. Looks like the revolution cannot be fought against. And I did not have any candidates to be free cities in my HRE. 😶
I am playing as Austria with vassal swarm and want to complete AEIOU, so I need to crush the revolution. Do I really have to fire the disaster and wait 20 years to crush it?
So center of revolution just appeard in my own province.. how do I destroy it now?
What if the center of revolution spawn in my country? How do I remove it?
how do u stop the rev. if the center is in your own provience?